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Superdelegates are politicians and in politics better to have fishing skills than be a gambler.Unfortunately for the time being, it doesnt play good for Democrats, that's why it'd be wiser to clinch the deal now !!!!! This campaign is getting dirty min after min mostly when we have Sen Clinton doing whatever she can to keep hooked on a possible chance of being picked as Democrats's challenger for the presidential 2009 elections.Sometimes she shed crocodile tears,then after says she's honor to be ther with Sen Obama and few hours later, she's shouting "shame on you" like a "fishwife".
She's describing her Serbian visit as dagerous trip where snippers are spotting any move...as she just forgot that achives do exist..
Well it just cannot come like this Sen Clinton, a decade in the white house was largely enough and Americans shouldnt let an other dynastie comes in.

Too bad they both support Clinton

Senator Obama will win this nomination. He has earned it. Senator Clinton was my first choice; She is a clever and shrewd politician and I always reflect back on the 'good days of her husband's presidency. However, after 15 months of seeing her flip flop on issues, blatantly lying to the American people and then making a mockery of it on a comedy show, attacking Obama as if he was the Republican nominee, condesending to Al Gore and John Kerry, intent on destroying the Democratic party and not knowing when to quit, had led me to change my vote for her. Senator Obama has run an organized campaign. He has messed up a few times, however, he has weathered the storms of being called a Muslin, unpatriotic, elitist, inexperienced, the Jeremy Wright controversy, too liberal and not ready to be Commander and Chief. Most of America is in love with this guy!!!

The superdelegate convention is a great idea! All the superdelegates should look at the hard numbers of the popular vote. This is a democracy for heavens sake! We the people, of the Democratic party of the USA, although we have two worthy canidates, we can only choose one. In this respects, the only one that can win over the Republican party.
It is amazing how contradicting Hilary and McCain have been through out their entire campaign. American are tired of been lied to for unjust reasons. The only canidate that has not changed because they are running for office,is Obama. If you remember last year, suragates from the Clinton and McCain campaign accused Obama of being a Muslim. Then when his faith was recognized, his Pastor was attacked. When questioned about Rev. Wright, Obama handled this with faith, respect and dignity. When McCain and Clinton was asked about their faith, the stepped away from it. Each time they are faced with the tough questions, we are delt a fat hand of politics. If our country does not begin the healing and unity we need for this country now, we will all continue to fight among ourselkves like bastard children. The only one that can put us on track is not Barack Obama, but the American people with leadership of Barack Obama!

One of the reasons the superdelegates want to end this childish bickering is because some dems aren't mature enough to vote for either dem in the general election. They've lost the whole point of having debates, where the issues should matter and have turned this into a personality contest. You wouldn't be hurting Obama if you vote for McCain if Hillary loses or vice versa. You will be hurting yourself, your future, your children's future and the future of this country. The republicans want to stay at war so that they can be right about going to Iraq at the expense of more soldiers' lives, and believe me McCain comes from Vietnam era where there was a draft, spend all of our money in foreign countries, send all of our jobs to foreign countries, not secure the borders so that more jobs and our children's education is affected. These are the real issues. Not whether you like Obama or Hillary.

That is silly, Just go to the convention. The truth is, they are afraid of a super delegate surge for Hillary and how to handle to the rioting in the streets that will follow.

BTW, I will never vote for Obama. Neither will all of the extended members of my family. We discussed at at Easter and realized that meant 25 votes right there...People are getting tired of having Obama pushed down their throats. Everyone is talking about it...

McCain is fine with me – more middle of the road – and not BHO!

It's very refreshing and like a lot of people I enjoy your "All American"
voters comments!

Well if WE the people, can not vote for neither Obama or Clinton and
make our minds what we want and need for a U.S.A. president,

Albert Gore would do!

someone said:WE WILL NOT COME TOGETHER JUST FOR PARTY
LOYALTY AND UNITY IN NOV. WE HAVE A RIGHT AND AN OBLIGATION TO SUPPORT THE BEST CANDIDATE!
....the best candidate???......

Quit saying that Hillary can't win. She can!!! She is the smartest candidate for president.

Way to go Sen. Obama!!!

Thanks to the..........Two NC Super delegates...... for endorsing
Sen. Obama today!!!!!!!!

I think we are beginning to see some movement folks!!!

The super delegates have to decide anyway. It would be better they
do it sooner than later. I think most people are tired of the process,
I think all except Hilary, and I for one am certainly tired of Hilary.

Steve said it best. Anyone who is too upset at Hillary's demise to vote for Barack is helping no one by going to the other party. In fact, the only person that should get the blame is the candidate herself for running a slipshod campaign. Take a close look at the way Hillary ran her campaign compared to Obama. She was completely overconfident and didn't take his ability seriously. That arrogance cost her dearly. Vote Democrat at all cost or then don't complain when nothing changes under continued Republican rule.

A super delegate primary is a great idea with one important point. If the winner of this Primary reaches a majority of 60% +, then the candidate takes all of the delegates.

If you do a google search you will find another misspeak by Hillary.She and Bill posed for several pics with Rezco.Will she ever tell the truth?
No she's no person I want in the White House.

What bothers me about this conversation is that everyone seems intent, not on promoting a candidate, but bashing the other one. Thats not even the subject of this conversation.

P.S. I'm an Obama supporter, but please show Sen. Clinton some respect by not calling her Hillary. She is a very able and respected Politician and deserves to be called by her professional title.

Ok, a superdelegate convention is a patently bad idea, but the sad fact is, we don't have a choice. At the rate this race is going, neither candidate will be able to acheive the required number of delegates in time for the convention, but Sen. Clinton has already vowed not to exit the race until a winner is chosen; she can't afford to be seen as soft on anything. Obama is in the lead and will remain there until the convention if prior primaries are anything to go by. He won't be dropping out either.

The DNC cannot seat Florida and Michigan. Both states violated party rules and moved their primaries up without authorization. If they are not SEVERELY penelized, other states will have precedent to do the same thing, and the DNC will never regain control of it's election cycle.

On the other hand, the decision to move the dates of the primaries were decided by government officials, not by the people of the affected states, and many of those disenfranchised people wish to have their vote count. Katherine Harris strikes again, people.

While those state clearly cannot be seated, the people of those states will not allow a governor to be elected without stated promise of non-interference in election dates if they are removed from this, the most important primary season of our lifetimes.

Who knows better than those two that they were the wrong nominees for the party. Let's select HIllary and Obama can be the VP and can then be the nominee for president after that term.

Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

If you designate electoral college values to the Dem. primary winners Clinton leads Obama 219-202. Count MI and FL she leads 263-202. PA has 21 at stake. Who is winning?

Why wait? Stop being undecided and just cast your votes now, for Obama! I am tired of this Mickey Mouse foolishness from the superdelegates. Vote now I say, off with her head!

Here lies the problem with FL and MI…

First, you cannot accept the votes as they were cast. Since the states were told ahead of time that their votes wouldn't be counted, it definitely had an effect on the outcome in those states. If you let FL and MI have a re-vote, then you may as well let all of the states have a re-vote. The reason why is that the position (popularity, support, etc.) of the candidates is constantly changing, so the outcome of a vote in one state may be very different if the same vote is taken several months later. That is, the people in both FL and MI know much more about the candidates now, so they may vote differently then they would have a few months ago. So if you let FL and MI vote again based on today's information, you may as well let all states have another shot at it. In short, there are problems with counting the votes as they were cast, as well as with having a re-vote. This also shows one of the faults of the system, since the early states don't know as much about the candidates. Look how much has come out since the votes were cast in FL and MI. Also, what about people who voted for candidates early on who dropped out of the contest? The decision of not letting the FL and MI votes count has created one huge problem for which there is no clear and equitable solution.

Hello is everyone still paying attention these two need to read this race is not close no matter how many time Clinton and her surrogates say so He has won more states delegate and popular vote if you include the state of MI and FL and if HRC's numbers keep going down the way they are he very well could end up with the needed delegates let the people vote and see what happens. Everyone should note they both said that after all the voting the SD should make there case known they are not telling anyone to say now or push her out but to wait and see once all the votes are counted and she will still be behind!!!!!!

Go Obama 08 Yes We Can

Sounds good if all votes are in, including Mich. & Florida. Re-vote is necessary to be completely fair.

By June all the dirt will be out for the candidates and then we can measure up the depth of the damage for each one. Then the delegates can vote accordingly.

I'm betting on Hillary come out the cleanest. Mr Obama will loose the nomination.

Thousands of us in Dallas want our votes back from Hillary. Will never vote for Hillary again! OBAMA OR NO ONE!

Thousands of us in Dallas want our votes back from Hillary. Will never vote for Hillary again! OBAMA OR NO ONE!

Why do all the LOSSERS support Hillary Clinton? They remind me of the Geeks in that phone comercial {you know the one with Chad}

WHY AM I BACKING A LOSER? WHY? WHY? WHY?
GENDER IDENTIFICATION!

SHE WILL LOSE BUT I MUST BACK HER. THIS IS MADNESS

WHY? WHY? WHY?

HILLARY WE LOVE YOU

They are exactly right this is going all the way to the convention as neither one will have enough delegates. Now that Obama has proven himself to be unelectable in the general election the super delegates have no choice but to give the nomination to Senator Clinton. Besides being supremely more qualified she has one all the big states and Obama would be nothing more then a sacrificial lamb. Vote smart, vote Clinton.

Super Ds should step up and voice thier support or sit the hell down. They are not acting so Super.

When did losing a presidential election make someone a 'loser'?

They won their parties primaries and got the party nomination... what a loser.

They took a chance at the highest seat in the government at which only 43 people have ever sat compared to the thousands of senators, congressmen, and governors that have never even tried to further their vision for the country... what a loser.

Seriously? Losers? Put your name on the ballot, lets see how big a loser you are.

Since Hillary has insulted the campaigns of both Mike Dukakis and George McGovern, I have a feeling that they can't wait to support Obama.

No worries Sharon...If Hillary wins PA and then Obama wins NC and Indiana, that will trigger more superdelegates to endorse Obama so that come June 3rd most of the delegates will be supporting Obama. The Superdelegate Convention in June will be just for stragglers who haven't endorsed Obama for fear of the Clintons.

EVERYBODY lies, and ALL politicians are liars, or they would not be politicians!

This DEM would rather see 8 more years of GOP rule than to give BHO the presidency, to many anti American sentiments in his inner circle. The old addage "tell me who you hang out with and I will tell you what you are. " That sentiment is still alive and used everyday.

Hillary is a politician and she might be a lot of things including a liar, but anti-American she is not.

The DEMs did not want to count my vote in the FL primaries so they will not get it in NOV.

Mcgovern and Dukakis are right on superdelegates.The spoilers want Hillary to go? At the end of all thisdebacle,Hillary will push Obama out.The polls in Pennsylvania are in favoring Hillary.The voters know why! It is the "BITTER stupid".Obama and his supporters are getting confused at the polls favoring Hillary;despite the millions Obama has fished in!Come Saturday(hunting-fishing),Sunday(Church for faith)Monday (Hard work).These are days before election on 4/22/08-a Tuesday.That is when Obama will realise the deep murky water he has been swiming in,In Pennsylvania!!!

Vote Dem. so they can tax more jobs out of the country. Then raise your taxes to pay for more failed social programs. Then you wonder why dems are failures.
Early states want do-overs. They were snookered.

Let em shoot it out at dawn...last Dem standing wins.

Fedup you must be fed up with yourself, obama sid that he heard him make questionable comments while sitting in the pew but he never heard him say anthing of the sort that were being ciculated in the media while he was sitting in the pew.

You all make me sick you cant stop the INEVITABLE so stay fed up.

Obama 08

Ending Sen. Clinton's presidential bid prematurely will result in another nominee outside of the American mainstream and a Democratic defeat in November.

maybe Jimmy Carter could bring one of his new buddies from Hamas onto the floor of the Dem convention in Denver.... the Hamas folks could stomp on the American flag, wave their banners, and hell, even shoot some rifles in the air..... now when do we see the Jimmy/Hamas hug on youTube?? it's a very clear line from
Carter lovefest with Hamas, to Carter lovefest with Obama.... a word of caution for Obama- – get as far from Carter as soon as possible, the old peanut farmer is toxic news!!

DEMOCRAT VOTERS NEED TO GET READY, HILLARY IS LOBBYING FOR THE SUPERDELEGATES TO OVERTURN OUR VOTES. THIS IS VERY HYPOCRITICAL OF HILLARY TO DO THIS IF SHE BELIEVES IN EACH VOTE COUNTING. HILLARY CAN'T BE TRUSTED AND SHE IS THROWING US ALL "UNDER THE BUS". PLEASE VOTE FOR OBAMA BUT DON'T DESERT THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IF ONE OR THE OTHER WINS.

Why are Dems so delusional??? Some say if Obama wins they will vote for McCain and if Clinton wins they will vote for McCain.......

I don't understand that! A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush. Wake up people!!!

I'm voting for Obama, b/c I don't particularly care for Hillary. However, I still feel she is 100 times better than McCain.

People who make this thing personal will ruin this nation!

BOOMER

I will not vote for Obama because I don't want him in office.
Simply because of his actions, statements, affiliations, etc.

It's not about my candidate, it's about my country! and it is MY VOTE.

Too little,too late.The Dems blew it because the bottom line is they are unfit to govern. Certainly they have qualified candidates,but they just love to play that personal humiliation game,and they were so eager to see Clinton go from the top to the bottom,that they let this stupid battle play out just to wipe the smile off the Clintons faces.Well mission accomplished,break out the champagne,but don't even think about the White House,not going to happen,and you may even lose seats in both the House and Senate.But you can all giggle at how you whipped the Clintons.

Both of these men want their experiences to serve warning to Hillary and her supporters.
I listen to John McCain last night as he tried to explain his stand on Iraq.....then his views on the economy.
If these "Democrats" that keep posting "Clinton or McCain 08" statements take the time to listen to John McCain, and still say that- they need to re-register as Republican because his views and any thinking Democrat are miles away!

a bit of historic inaccuracy being set out by ole Geo.McGovern, saying that "if he had more time" to choose a Running mate before selecting MO Sen. Eagleton as his running mate..... #1, well before the convention, it was clear that McGovern would be the nominee, and he should have started a careful review process for his Veep choice.... why he waited, is for him to say.... but once he choose Eagleton, the MO senator was not candid with Mcgovern when asked if he had any problems that might emerge later, specifically Eagleton's electroshock therapy - so it is not really a question of lacking time, rather, Mcgovern did not move early enough to carefully review his potential running mates, and then eagleton was not fully candid with mcgovern, which then forced the ouster of eagleton from the ticket once news of the electroshock therapy became known.......

It is undemocratic to stop the primaries in the middle and let it run it's
full course.The media bias favors OBAMA unfairly and should be
more objective.The superdelegates should vote their conscience and
not be bullied by both camps. Florida and Michigan should count. If
DNC is inefficient in solving the problem, let MCCAIN win and be
our next president.

I can't find anything good about the so called Party anyway. all they want to do it take more of our money and "give" it to themselves and foreigners. Thats isn't healing and uniting. I notice its only the mean old dems that are bitter and whining. Figures. Consider the source. The blame America first crowd.

It doesn't matter because the votes will have to be taken into cinsideration. The thing that the Clintonians don't understand is that Hillary has skeletons that are being stored up by the Repulicans, that's why they want her to win. She has been vetting Barack which makes what she has bought out "old news" the repulicans can't beat that horse because it hasn't affected his campaign. The superdelgates will consider that no matter what, the people have stood behind him. As for her everytime she opens her mouth she cuts off her nose to spite her face. People hate the wealthy Clintons, I am sure they owe many superdelgates favors. Also there is nothing in the column that say Dukakis supported Hillary only Mc Govern who is a 1950's racist . Get it right Clintonians!!

Wow... Just reading this series of comments I can see that there's some racists supporting Clinton. Such as "Fedup" who says Obama's "fooling the white folks".... For shame, for shame. By the way, anyone who's wondering, I'm white, and deplore racism. Obama is simply the best man for the job because he's clearly the most talented leader, and most importantly because he has the best plan. Anyone who doesn't think so should read the "Blueprint for Change", available free from the Obama campaign. A real eye opening read. And as for the bigots out there... shame on you!

Go, Barack!!

OBAMA '08/'12

Maybe it is a good idea.... the super's will decide this, and they may need to override the voters who are being manipulated daily by Barack Obama and his team..... check out the story in USA today.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Now.... who is the liar?

I do not see why some are calling Obama a snob.If you go back and listen to Hillary speaking she would always speak in the first person. "I" It wasn't until after that she was told how Obama was speaking to the people and saying we can do this that she started changing her speech. I think she really talks down to people,especially when she gets this soft voice trying to encouage sympathy from her audience.
I have never watched TV so much as I have during this campaign. To hear comments that she never gets front page when she gets endorsements is incorrect. To say that Cnn is for Obama I think is incorrect. I think they are for Clinton. Her Bosnia sniper attack and Clinton's excuse for his wife as being tired at 11pm and 60 does not get the air time as when Obama makes a mistake . What was she trying to do telling a lie?
As far as the Superdelegates go and asking Clinton to step down ,I think they are afraid of the Clintons. Obama would have been asked to step down months ago .

According to the latest poll of polls: Head to Head survey...

General Election Poll:

Clinton 48% – McCain 43%

Obama 40% – McCain 50%

Democratic Poll:

Obama 55% – Clinton 45%

DNC leadership will be the reason of the DEMOCTRATS FALL!!!

The fact that these "SDs" haven't thrown their support behind either candidate says alot. This is why they are SDs.

When FL and MI were shut out, it was "play by the rules."

Well, the rules say the SDs each get one vote which doesn't have to be given until the convention.

These are the rules.

If you want to sway someone with your opinions, find out who the SDs are in your state and send them an email.

Remove Hillary Now. Get the straightjacket!

McCain will be the eventual Winner!!!!

No Obama tricks will prosper and make him president when he face JOHN McCAIN in November...

I'm sorry for the Clinton supporters – You've been trick and betrayed by DNC Leaderships...

VOTE JOHN McCAIN as PRESIDENT '08

Obama supporters obsessed with the rules are the rules should note that superdelegates being able to vote for whomever they want are part of the rules. I for one, want to know, the name of every superdelegate and how he or she voted. I don't think I'm alone in this.

I know we need a fighter, not a player. Obama's latest comments during his fundraising attempt just supports he talks out of two (or may three) sides of his mouth. It was condensending. He was trying to tell the people at the "private" fundraiser why he may loose in Pennsylvania. Basically, because they are too stupid to make any decisions on the issues.

Those comments is a direct reflection of how he really feels. We saw with the Wright issue, and now we do know that Obama has once again said he "did not remember" being at a party smoozing for Rezko with Iraqi-born billionaire, Nadhmi Auchi. How did he buy that house for $300 thousand less then the asking price?

Saying he dosn't take money from big companies, like the oil industry is pretty strange. How many of you don't know what bundling really is?
Come On! Look it up if you have to, but wake up.

Obama is just a "player". Hope for Obama to say the right things, and to change as the wind blows.

The superdelegates are cowards. They only come out at night–look at the polls, and then go back in.

Let me be a superdelegate, I'd weigh in, because I've got guts.

Do away with this super delegate crap. This is total b s. Just another perk for most who dont deserve it.

Boomer –

I am with you and all the other sensible people who say they will vote for either Obama or Hillary. As much as I am very excited about an Obama presidency and dislike many personality traits and baggage that comes with Hillary and the 'other' Clinton, I can not cast a vote for (or a non-vote for) John McCain. Although McCain is a fairly liberal Republican and I respect several positions by McCain (climate change and wanting to clean up Washington special influeneces especially), I can not support him due to his war stance, economic policy, and would be especially worried about Supreme Court appointments.

Vote Democrat '08!!

Hey, all of you here, whoever is our nominee, if you vote for McCain, you'll be betraying the party.
Obama supporters, just as Clinton supporters, have good reasons not to vote for the other if their candidate is not the nominee, but before saying stupidities like "If it's not her or him, I'll vote McSame", let me remind you that before being an Obama supporter or a Clinton supporter, you're first of all a democrat, you believe in all the values that make our party Grand.

So, please, stop these rubbishes, stupidities and selfishness by saying that you'll vote for McSame if your candidate is not the nominee.

If all of us think like that, we better all just saty at home and do nothing.

Have you lokked closely at McSame record ?

This is man who wants to continue the war in Iraq and is clearly saying is ready for a 100 years occupation and a continuation of 10 billion spend over there, he has no plan for our economy, and admits himself he doesn't understand economy the way he should.

That's the man you really wanna vote for, just because your candidate won't have bee the nominee ??? Are you kidding ???

Either Hillary nor Obama is perfect, nobody's perfect and none of them will be a perfect president, both of them have done and saying bad things in these primaries and caucuses, but what do you really want ? A change in this country or a continuation of a Bush 3rd term ?

Don't be stupid, whoever is the nominee, we'll have to support him or her to win in November !!!

Let's face it Obama will never win in November, with everything that has happened the last several months and that's nothing compare what the republicans will do to him.

Dukakis and McGovern: now there's two former candidates the Democratic Party can be proud of. Why not throw in Walter Mondale?

Republicans love Hillary Clinton, the lady who brought Self-service to the public service, for squandering all the funds otherwise available to Democratic candidates to fight the general election. As with Bill and Monica in the oval office, she's engaging in political "masturbation" – going through all the motions in a process that bears no fruit.

Hillary as Commander in Chief – she didn't even read the backgrounder and recommendations against the war BEFORE she voted to authorize the use of military force in IRAQ. The only 3AM phone call she could handle is when Bill phones her telling her he's been delayed at the office, or working on an urgent matter with Gennifer or Monica or hiding Whitewater papers or Rose Law Files.

If she can't stop her petty small-minded warring with Obama's Campaign, how can you expect her to stop the war in the Middle East.
Obama was right on when he talked about the silly season!

Mike

I have a question that I would like for the Anti Obama folks to answer. Can you please tell me what is the LEGAL point to this Rezko thing?
Senator Obama has done nothing illegal with Rezko and the trial is about Rezko not Obama, so again what is the Legal issue. If you cannot find one, then why don't you just DROP it.

I'm with Linda in PA.
If BHO and all his supporters wanted this to end they would have let the votes in Michigan and Florida count! Oh but that would mean Hillary was ahead-he could never allow that! Add them and see who has the popular and delegate lead
Obama the Cheater 08- Is he friends with Jeb Bush??

Only Hillary will be able to win in Nov. She can win the swing states Democrats desperately need in order to regain the White House. She can win in Florida, Ohio, TN, NH, NM, PA, AK. We lost the White House in 2000 & 2004 because we lost key swing states. Hillary can win those states in Nov. Sen Obama won't be able to win the vital swing states (in part because he alienated voters – Florida & PA; and in part because he is too liberal with very troubling affiliations (Rev Wright, Rezko, etc...).

2 losers telling 2 other losers what to do.
Go for it.
McCain 08

Popular vote, not superdelegates should decide who the nominee is... but, since the superdelegates are THERE... yes, a June superdelegate convention would help the nominee conduct a more cohesive campaign.

Joe Green, it was the other way around, Rezko sold part of that lot to Obama so he could have a bigger yard.

I'm wondering why all the comments about Hillary dropping out because Obama is the winner or will be the winner. Intelligent people need to realize that neither Hillary or Obama will have enough delegate votes to "win" the nomination. Then the superdelegates will need to do what they were created to do – make the decision. But this process needs to be done after all the primaries. I live in a state which hasn't had it's primary. I don't want my vote to be for nothing.
I think each state should be given the opportunity to voice their opinion. Obama is a liar and all his skeletons are just now coming out of the closet. He is showing his true colors. Do you think some of those that voted early would still vote for him today? I don't think so.

YES THE SUPER DELEGATES NEED TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE THAT CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER!

NOT THE ONE THAT THE MEDIA HAS PORTRAYED AS THE GOLDEN BOY!!!!!

HILLARY CLINTON IS THAT CANDIDATE!!!

THE GOP ATTACK MACHINE HAS NOTHING ON HILLARY!!!!!

THEY HAVE TONS ON OBAMA, HE HAS MADE IT EASY!!!!

HE IS UNACCOMPLISHED AND CHILDISH!

FOR THE SAKE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THEY HAD BETTER MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE!!!!!!

HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!!!!

I think we should just let the U.S. Supreme Court decide the Democratic presidential nominee. If the Supreme Court can choose our President, it can certainly choose nominees.

why are you two not speaking up to start with?? set an example so the rest can follow without having the clinton machine crash them........

McGovern was running in the very first election I was eligible to vote in. He was the hope for the young people at that time. There was so much scandal in both the primary and the general election. I think that was the election that McCuskey cried...sobbed and he was a man! I also think that was the election that Shirley Chisholm, a Black women, ran in the primary. I believe McGovern only won one state and we got Nixon! At that time we were also at war and there were real issues on the table. Sound familiar?

Anyway McGovern is a good man. There is a great DVD out about him, his political life and the challenges he faced in that election.

People need to stop being so sensitive. Barack said some things that were true and people want everything all buttery and sugary. Is barack worse than a blatant liar ( Hillary) or a Warmonging egomaniac who has never admitted to an error in over 7 years ( Bush)? I don't think so.

Clinton is doing her best to destroy the DNC.

In the same way Democrats lost both houses while her husband was president, and his lame duck second term dominated by Lewinsky ensured Gore didn't get chosen.

I applaud Obama for not making hay over Bosniagate, the Hospital Lie, Tears in New Hampshire, 12 losses in a row, Monica Lowinsky, Bill Clintons scandals, Penn talking to Columbia, the tricks she has used on Florida and Michigan, ect. Instead he has concentrated on issues like, Healthcare, the war, and the economic. The reason nothing sticks to him is because he sticks to the topics. It is only when he goes off topic, like the shot she took, and the Annie Oakley statement that he falters. Likewise, Hillary needs to stick to her plan. She had just talked about a crime plan when this bitter statement broke. Now her crime message is lost and it looks like she is hanging her hat on the fact that Obama used the word Bitter. If her platform is based on a statement he made it gives us the impression that she had no platform until he made the statement. Her camp was misguided under Penn, and now it is rudderless. Hillary I love you but what is your plan? What ever it is, get back to it and stick to it. The fact that Obama called bitter people bitter is no reason to vote for you.

By the way, the thing with Rezko had to do with when the Obama's first bought their place. The seller had essentially two lots that he wanted to sell at the same time. Obama only wanted the one with the house on it; so guess what Mrs. Rezko buys the adjacent lot and closes on the same days as the Obamas. A happy coincidence? I don't think so.

I don't see any reason this all has to be settled before the conventions. The democrats set the primaries up with no winner take all. So here we are in a tight contest where the superdelegates will likely have to decide who will the candidate in November's election. Don't you just love how a democracy can work!

Steve, you are right. Folks threatening to vote for McCain above their favorite Dem candidate are spewing nonsense. Think of the issues at hand. Are we going to whine and throw tantrums when the nomination is secured, or are we going to behave like grown-ups and help the Democratic party take back the White House???

I CANT BELIVE HOW BAD THE TV STATIONS ARE TREATING HILLARY I THINK THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE TELLING PEOPLE TO GO VOTE FOR OBAMA THEY NEVER SAY ANY THING GOOD ABOUT HER I AM SICK OF ALL OF THEM. I CAN'T BELIVE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PUT OBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE BECOUSE THEY LIKE THE WAY HE LOOKS AND BECOUSE HE IS YOUNG WAKE UP AMERICA WE CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER BAD PRESIDENT FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS PEOPLE THIS IS WHY WE ARE IN THE MESS WE ARE IN BECOUSE OF BUSH I DONT WANT TO HEAR IT WHEN THINGS GET WORSE

"I’m so sick of this primary…
If Obama wins I'm voting for McCain… I have no faith in BHO!"
By: Rockford IL

Dude; come up with some new material. Also I'm sure the brave soldiers will be grateful for your ignorance as they die for your right to be ignorant.

A vote for McCain is a vote more death of American Soldiers. CNN start showing the body bags coming home under the protection of night. Those soldiers should be honored and the memory of their deaths should not be hidden in disgrace by this despicable administration.

So Rockford IL, go ahead and vote for "BOOM BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM IRAN" McCain.

This race should be over by May 6th when Obama wins PA, IN and NC! But being the stubborn, egomanic she is, Clinton will most likely continue on and damage the Democratic Party even further.

Good, let's listen to these guys. They have a great presidential track record!

It very surpinsing that many people are writing . I am feed up with this kind of comment.
Your vote is personal and you can vote even for bush again if you like.
OBAMA will be the nominee DM o8 therefore you can vote for any dynasty you want Bush Clinton cheney

If all the Hillary supporters want to support MacCain because they are so bitter and resentful toward Senator Obama..go right ahead. But do not complain when you get the same more of the same issues that Bushy has already put us in. The money that Bush is pumping into Iraq is buidling Palaces, they are charging the soldiers thousands of dollars for cars, and you name it. The Iraqee's are getting rich off of the United States, and McCain is going to keep this same mess going on. Be slow to speak!!!!!!!

Would everyone just keep their noses out of this primary race? This is the way our system is supposed to work. Maybe it's time the democrats had a good floor fight. Stop trying to make deals and let the process take it's course.

Clinton has already laid the groudnwork for 2012 by fatally damaging Obama for the general election. McCain will be a one-termer and then Hillary and Bill will come riding to our rescue in 2012. You know what they say, when yuor saviors are Hillary and Bill, you know you're in trouble

If the superdelegates go against the will of the people I believe we'll see a revolution on our hands.

To Geolach: Bring it on!!!

It very surpinsing that many people are writing <>. I am feed up with this kind of comment.
Your vote is personal and you can vote even for bush again if you like.
OBAMA will be the nominee DM o8 therefore you can vote for any dynasty you want Bush Clinton cheney

Susan MO,

I think you have been for Hillary the whole time and you are using Propaganda to try and swing opinions of ppl on the page. You should stop. We are divided enough already. We have to stay together as a party.

HILLARY GO HOME YOU HAVE LOST AND YOU ARE DRAGGING THE DEMCRATIC PARTY DOWN. GO BACK TO YOUR ELITE MANSIONS YOU HAVE

Hillary's remarks about Obama being an elitist was just too funny. Now, hmm, where does Hillary live? Who pays for that mansion? Ivy League education. Yeah, no hypocrisy there!

I am enjoying this round of nominations almost as much as in 2004. The Dems upper echelon handles that so badly that they couldn't defeat GW. ROFLMAO!

Tax & Spend (Dems) or Borrow & Spend (Repubs). See a common theme there?

Does anyone really think that either party really has the interest of the people at heart? I don't, they haven't for some time, but, the sheople will continue to make excuses to vote for them. In fact, I'd wager that many of the sheople have no clue about the candidates they are voting on.

As for excluding Florida and Michigan, I say good on Howard Dean. He was right to do so. If I lived in either of those two states, I'd be calling for the head of whoever decided to change the dates. You play by the rules or not at all. What are we telling the youth of our country when we break the rules and then whine about the punishment? I feel sorry for the citizens of both states. They have to pay the price for the very poor leadership which took away their voice.

You know, the last time I checked, the United States was considered a D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y. I guess the Clintons find this inconvienient, so now we are supposed to support ANOTHER rule-change that will allow HRC ANOTHER shot at the Democratic nomination.

Barack Obama raised more money, won more states, pledged delegates, and had received more important endorsements then Senator Clinton across the board; the logical thing is for her to gracefully bow out after the Pennsylvania primary. She is not going to get a 20+ point win there.

But no, now lets have a "superdelegate" convention so that Bill and Hillary can do what they do best: use whatever trick or scheme they have to to win.

Lets move on...

Obama '08

Raf...
Didn't realize that... I thank you for the correction!

As long as everyone gets a say... I'm cool with that!

Thank you

I voted for Hillary in Texas, but I would not vote for her again. She has proven to be a pathological liar.

Hillary has more electroral college vote than Obama. Hillary won the big states that are crucial in November. The superdelegates will be unwise and dumb if they will not choose Hillary as the nominee.

She is more qualified than Obama. Obama's remarks about clinging and bitter in Pennsylnvannia are very irresponsible and very degrading to all Americans. He is a boy who can not make decisions without asking first his advisers.

Wake up supedelegates..we can not afford another trainee with what America is facing right. Wake politicain backing Obam because of politics. Wake up!!!

Well I hope that Dukakis and McGovern use ol’ Hillary’s yardstick to measure whose best for the job. "When we get to talk about character, we need to look at the whole person. We need to look at the way the person conducts himself". "What I believe with all my heart is that voters are tired of people who lie to them."- Hillary Clinton.

Obama is the People's Choice and Champion!

The truth of the matter is we democrats have been "hoodwinked" by the Rebublican Party, the Media and the Obama Campaign since the South Carolina Primary. If you cannot see that the hoopla about Bill Clinton's remark re: Jesse Jackson and Hillary Clinton's remark re: MLK were not a joint effort by the GOP, Meida and Obama Camp, we do deserve Obama as a nominee and McCain as President. The SC primary was a major turning point in this campaign, and it seems we Americans are as easily manipulated as the world thinks. Bottom line...Obama, McCain and Clinton are all politicans! None of them are saints and we need the best of the 3 candidates. IMHO Hillary Clinton would make the best president at this time. If she is not our nominee, I will vote McCain in Nov, because I am an American and I am patriotic and Obama is not ready yet! We need a leader, not an apprentice.

I can't wait to see the split in the Democratic party once these super delegates get into play with the candidates!!! The Democrats have sealed their own fate by allowing a few elitists to determine how their candidate will be chosen for them.

The super delegates will decide
who is the one who can win in november and this candidate is Hillary.
They have to consider who won States that are a must win such Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, California, Michigan and yes Texas.
Let's not take for granted the blue
I would propose a ticket
Hillary/Obama08

Bayou Joe- Have to say that I agree! What is with my party?!!!

I agree with April,

Obama is the better person. America do not want a Liar in the White House again.
Hillary said she and Bill were in bed and she knows of all the calls a President gets at different times of the day and night. Really? So much involvement – so much togetherness. Where was she when Monica was having sex with Bill? 35 years of experience? When he was intimidating Katherine Wiley and Paula Jones? Where was the judgment on the cattle futures and white water. Do we forget Mark and Denise Rich? This was an impeached President who lost his license to practice law. He committed perjury. They settled with Paula Jones for the full amount of her lawsuit. I haven't forgotten and none of us should.

I still don't get it.... What is so wrong with the word "bitter"?
Why is Obama "elitist" an Clinton is not? Why is a good education wrong?
Please explain! I am a Canad-swiss double citizen. I know it is non of my business. But in my countries education and the truth are not wrong.....I really don't get it............Can somebody explain it to a stupid Canadien?.

The problem is that no matter what happens the party is going to be split...

I do not know how anyone can say anything about this being a fair representation of the voters... The last time I checked we had 50 states and only 48 of them are being counted... neither one of the candidates will reach the magic number... both carry about 50% of the party... the real truth is that both Obama and Clinton have made each other basically unelectible...

logic tells you that 50% will blame the DNC for nominating the wrong candidate if they lose... with new polls out today in all of the swing states... McCain wins and he does not even have the support of his base!!!

That should tell everyone what is going to happen in November... unless they have a joint ticket... it seems neither one of them want that!!!

For those of you who want to be hypocrites and continue to bring up Rezko which had nothing to do with Obama or he would've been a defendant in this case, I want you to remember that the Peter Paul case is coming up. It's going to be a doozy because a whole bunch of politicians, including Rendell, and a bus load of celebrities will have to testify. Guess what? The judge ordered Hillary to testify even though she tried to get out of it, so the media will be all over it.

I want to apologize before I make my comments, so that if anyone is offended I have already take care of that.

The Superdelegates are the Party. Whether you support Obama or Clinton is irrelevant. It is not about those two candidates. It is about the Democrats taking Power and push their liberal agenda in Congress. You the electorate are mere pawns in the game of Power.

The question I have about Obama is who is purchasing that power and how will they manipulate him to get what they want in the international arena.

I have the same reservations about Clinton. We know what her husband did (NAFTA) , but we don't know how she would use her power to address other issues. Why, because she doesn't talk about the issues. Does she have a plan and will that plan benefit our interests at home and abroad.

The only concern I have about McCain is his age. But my grandfather lived to be 94 and was of sound mind when he died after putting fence posts on our ranch in Texas.

I also equate Age with Wisdom, because when I had problems I always went to Granpa to help me work out my problems.

Youth is impetous and age is firm. I will take a mature McCain over an immature, inexperienced Obama anytime.

As much as I would like to have a non-white President. This is not what I have in mind for my beloved country. Give me Rice or Powell
and they get my vote. Why, Because they care about my country, have served it well and will do what is right for all Americans.

this is the only way to ensure that the Dems will not lose the white house bid. Hillary will not stop becuse of the math, but if the suyperdelegates go with the will of the people, then we should end this civil (dems) war. Those who are supporting Hilalry need to think twice about how her lies will continue to give Mccain a more reputable, more trustworhty image. Hillary will lose against Mccain without a doubt in my mind. The real diference between her and Mccain is that she is a liar. She has voted for the war and that will be against her, she has a mandate for healthcare and that will work against her, when Americans hear the republicans tell the public how the quality care will go down the drain. I think Obama's contrast with Mccain, not having voted for the war and the fact that his mandate is only for children to be insured, by lowering the cost of health insurance, because he can fight the insurance companies, since they did not pay for campaign, are advantages. Also, Independents(like me) wil lvote for Obama or Mccain, not Hillary. She is a liar! she lies to our faces, as if we are stupid. I have no problem with people misspeaking, I have a big problem with people lying. She lies!

Why don't Obama supporter want to play by the rules. The # is 2025 delegates, if that number is not reached by neither candidate the superdelegates make the decision. Obama has already given Florida and Mich. to the Republicans if he's becomes nominee, so do you Obama supporters really want McCain as president? You've been on the bandwagon long enough.

Clinton 08

I'm an Obama supporter, can't deny it, I say it proudly. The thought of not letting the campaigns run until the convention really bothers me. You gotta let the rest of the people have their turn. It's only right.

If the Democratic Party and its process allow Hillary to wage a fruitless internecine war til August and to have the Democrats squander their resources warring against each other, how can they expect anybody to believe that the DNC can do anything to end the war far away. They can't even end the fighting amongst themselves.
Mike

Chicago Tribune:
..Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama's name came up again at the Antoin "Tony" Rezko corruption trial and in a way that earlier filings in the case did not telegraph.

Stuart Levine, the prosecution's star witness, said he and Obama were at a party Rezko threw at his Wilmette mansion on April 3, 2004, for Nadhmi Auchi, a controversial Iraqi-born billionaire who Rezko was trying to get to invest in a South Loop real-estate development.

Auchi, now a citizen of the United Kingdom, has faced criminal charges in Europe. He also figured in the revocation of Rezko's bond early this year after attempting to wire him more than $3 million. Upon learning of that attempt, U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve declared Rezko a flight risk and ordered him held in a federal jail in the Loop.

The Rezko party in 2004 was designed to induce Auchi to pour money into the South Loop investment. Obama's presence at the party was not previously known. At the time, Obama was fresh off a surprise win in the Illinois Democratic primary for U.S. Senate and was riding a crest of national publicity.

If Hillary wins I vote McCain. Obama tells us what we need to hear. Americans are bitter, bitter they cant do anything about soaring gas prices, the RECESSION, and an empty housing market. Hillary just tells us what we want to hear. Have another shot of Canadian Whiskey Hill, brought to you by NAFTA

Hillary would not get the hint she is too stuborn to admit her defeat. The only thing that worries me is right wing so called false conservatives are gaining memontom while Clinton is damaging our hopeful candidate credintials with false attacts so she can be the nominnee. Time to stop this madness nominated Obama and get rid the Bush adminstration and conservatives and start building this country again. No body want to see another 8 years of Bush.

All they have to do is tell the superdelegates to cast their vote
by the North Carolina primary. You don't need a convention which will be a waste of time and money.

This proposal makes the most sense. We can't go through the whole summer fighting...waiting for a convention while McCain runs around building up votes. Let the rest of the country vote, force the rest of the super delegates hands, give everyone some time to heal, then go after McCain.

Rockford IL.

I am confused by your comment. McGovern is one of Sen. Clinton's super delegates. He is proposing that the super delegates convene and make their choice of candidate known publicly, AFTER, the Primaries are completed in June, in some effort to avoid a messy fight continuing through to the Convention. What does this have to do with Sen. Obama? Why are you so upset?

Dukakis and McGovern....Obama's kind of people.

This is the man (McGovern) that made me what I am today. A Republicand!!!!!

His campaign was the one that brougt all these left wing nuts into the party and drove us moderate and conservative Democrats out.

Hillary said it right. The democratic party is out of touch with the American public.

Obama and his followers need to hear the message the Pope gave today on the Whitehouse lawn.

CNN I dare you to post the Popes comments in it's entirety and also what G.W. Bush said in welcoming him to our Great Country.

A superdelegate convention is a very bad idea. The democratic party does not want the appearance of back room politics. After the next three primaries they should start coming out and endorsing based on who has the popular vote. It would be undemocratic of them to overturn the will of the people who voted in the democratic primaries. We do live in a country where the people elect the president, don't we?? As to Florida and Michigan - in hindsight it was a terrible idea to exclude them. Those votes cannot be counted because it just would not be fair. So the party need to get behind one of the candidates before the convention and then seat the delegates from those two states. They can have their say at the convention based on an average of the percentages that each candidate received in the other states' primaries.

Yes, let's make the process as confusing as possible and let the true elitists make the decision as to who should be king because us common folk are way too stupid to know any better.

It is so obvious that 'Hillary Clinton' by nature seems to be power hungry, but she does not get it, may be she does not want to get it. However, her wishes to stay in race for as long as she wants is fine. Afterall that is all she is going to have to remember in future, rallies, and crowd cheering.

She could not and she can't make it to the top, only because of the character issue.

If she had a clear visison then she wouldn't be so negative, and she does not care even if it hurts the Democratic party; she has been contantly providing the fuel to 'McCain'.

Go 'Obama' go..08!

A.M. Saqib
Houston, Texas

All this religious gibberish is the result of Republican attempts to besmirch Hillary. People need to remember Washington was an atheist, and Jefferson and Lincoln were agnostics. They did not do bad as presidents. They did much better than Bush has done.
Barack Obama-Wright for America? No. BHO is an elitist,arrogant snob.Most radical senator,attends white hating church,inexperienced,unpatriotic

To be honest, this should be determined by the American People, those democrats that voted and will be voting between now and then.
If the Superdelegates doubt and go against the will of the majority of those voters; wow, talking about political suicide.

If the superdelegates think that the American people do not know who is best for this country and who is electable then they just need to look at the numbers. Regardless of what the polls show in those voters that claim they will not vote or vote for McCain vs the other democrat; this is just talk. Americans as a whole will continue to vote in November regardless of the democratic nominee. They will also go against the current deomcrat elected officials if they over turn the will of the American People by selecting the candidate the does not have the majority of popular and delegate count. There will be a firestorm of backlash voting when it comes to re-election that will shake up the democratic party for years to come. Someone in the DNC needs to sit back and think about this reality, and decide if they (the superdelegates) feel they can take such a risk. Just think back to the anger and frustration that ensued after Florida 8 years ago. If the DNC goes against the will of the majority, does anyone really think that those disenfranchized voters will not take that anger and frustration on those currently in office? If they think they we will accept their decision as being good for the party, they better think again. All I can say is do not under estimate those that vote regardless of party lines. I would dare say America as a whole has had it's fill of what has now been labeled as "The status Quo Of Politics". American's want leaders that can be trusted, those that do those things that are in the best interest of all Americas vs what is best for their individual political careers.

I am curious to see if after the last primary if they do decide to count the bogus primaries of FL and MI (which I doubt) and it puts Obama closer to the magic number would Hillary and her supporters still want them to count.

Obama 08!
Yes We Can!

The leaders of our party realizes we have to fight McCain sooner then later, good move...
Time to get back onto the issues, show how weak McCain are, no clue about economy nor how to make America more secure.
How I He going to sponsor the war in Iraq, maybe start one with Iran, and n the proses not tear down our fragile military.. What about our school system, our roads and bridges...How are we going to help the Katrina victims.. What about 1 out of every 100 American adult being in jail ?? All the new teen violence coming out.... Oh yeah baby, it is time to look at McCain

Please give us conservatives Obama, he has made this easier for us in November. As for all you youngsters you are all about to learn a lesson this year about politics, so pay attention!

Kleenex for all in November courtesy of

McCain / Romney 2008

Here I am thinking the GOP were the crazies but really it is us, threatening to vote GOP if our canidate loses. What is wrong with you guys and gals? We are all Dems ppl. WAKE UP!

Her Royal Clintoness is still at it.

While she continues her "it's nobody unless it is me" campaign strategy, while knowing she will not be the nominee, she damages her prospects at a career other than senator from NY.

Already to those who thought she could be NY governor or anything else she may desire, she has now damaged herself beyond repair.

She will be remebered as the "Typhoid Mary" of politics that brought a third term for the McBushies and will never be considered for another prominent political position and will never garner adequate support to lauch another presidential bid.

The more negative HRC goes, the more negative her ratings go as she disgusts more and more people.

No wonder we are hearing more and more people coming out in support of Obama even though they wanted to wait until all primaries were over.

SURRENDER DOROTHY!

Hello Idiots. This is not the the Rules. Are you making rules as you go along to suit your needs. Sure sounds like it to me.
Democracy in Action. Brought to you by your disfunctional Democratic party.

Not only should superdelegates not be forced to declare publicly who they support in June, they shouldn't have to PUBLICLY declare who they support ever! The ballot at convention is secret. If superdelegates want to keep their choice to themselves they are entitled to. This is a cornerstone of democracy and why caucuses should be illegal. Public votes aren't democratic.

Entire primary system needs revision. They should rotate the order of states holding primaries, so particular states aren't permanently advantaged (like NH or IA) or disadvantaged (like OR or WV). When Florida and Michigan tried to break the rules, it was because the rules were unfair.

Bravo, gentlemen! You are indeed Democratic elder statemen who are wise enough to do what's right for their party rather than allow Hillary's narcicism to de-rail a very BLUE year!

Currently we have a president who is increasingly disconnected from reality. He actually, with a straight face, said he wanted peace in the middle east by the end of his term. He has repeatedly gone against good advice in foreign and domestic policy, and now the country is suffering for it.

Hillary Clinton cannot win without a back room deal. The landslides she is hoping for have evaporated over the past few weeks as people get to know her and her shenanigans (one of which is her formerly lucid but now loopy husband). If you do the numbers, (the math isn't complicated) you will see that Hillary just cannot make up the ground she's lost. And yet, she keeps bulling along, wasting time and money that she no longer has. She is increasingly disconnected from reality.
Is this really the attitude you want in the White House? We've had this attitude for 8 years, and it hasn't worked.

And if you are a Hillary supporter, and you'd rather vote for McCain than Obama, don't whine as jobs continue to go overseas, prices continue to sky rocket, and the very wealthy continue to get even wealthier. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of that you'd vote another Republican in out of spite because Hillary didn't have the horsepower to win. What nonsense.

Wonderful. I suggest the Democrats take the advice of two such wildly successful former presidential candidates as Senator McGovern and Governor Dukakis if they wish to immediately concede that they are destined for a 2nd place finish this November. Terrific.

Does America really need the Clintons running the country again ?

They are not the Royal family !

People need to stop threatening to vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. You should never vote in spite of someone. There are so many similarities between Obama and Hillary. There are only personal and very very few policy difference between these two candidates. How can you support Hillary and not support Obama? I agree that we can prefer one over the other but the similarities are much greater than between either of this candidates and McCain. So if you are in favor of republican policies, then by all means vote McCain. But if you think that the past 8 yrs have lead us down the wrong track, then you should really consider voting for the democratic party irregardless of the candidate.

Ah Dukakis and McGovern.. Talk about Democrat heavy-weights..

losers!

Every day people like Rockford say they will not vote Democratic if THEIR candidarte doesn't win. How infantile and what a specious argument! Obama and Clinton agree on just about everything but McSame is just more Bush. I would vote for either Hillary or Obama. Some of you people seem to be into the cult of the personality. This isn't an election for high school president! Grow up! Unite after this is over and beat McBush! I am for Obama but if Hillary wins, I'm fully in support of her. WHO ELSE IS WITH ME ON THIS????

I think people are not straight on the facts. Firstly, Even if this did run it's course, Obama would need superdeletages to win but he will be ahead in the popular vote and pledged delegate count. If these superdelegates didn't exist he would win. Secondly, why would anyone, if they were a democrate, vote for McCain for any reason? Do you really want 4 more years of our country being looked down upon by the rest of the world and our economy falling? If you feel that strongly against one person, they don't vote at all.

I can only hope that the anger and frustration that has gone on long enough is halted when Obama becomes the nominee and starts debating McCain and when Hillary starts to realize what's good for the party.

To the Rockford, IL guy:

The June superdelegate primary would come after the last state has voted, so it *would* be letting it run its course as designed.

I must say people need to listen.. Let me clarify... Obama was not in the church when those soundbites of Wrights sermons were spoken. He did state that he had heard some outlandish remarks but not those and he also denounced those as well.. Sadly people are reaching without either listening or doing research. You can find most anything on the internet so dont just take one persons word for it look at several and check the reputations of the news media, reporters, newspapers ect..

Obama 08

I am tired of the superdelegates. The American people should decide, not the elitest.

Sounds good as long as they count in Florida and Michigan. I don't want to lose the Republicans because we discounted voters from two very critical states! There's a reason Dems have only had two presidents in the last 39 years – it's because of our whacky primary process!

Supperdelegates have themselves to blame after Clintons tear down their party apart.

She knows she can't win this nomination and she want to destroy Obama chances of making it come November so that she will run again in 2012.
Believe me she will run for Republican then, because if Obama didn't win November because of Hillary he will run again comes 2012 and Hillary can't beat him.
She will destroy your party before your eyes because if you failed to stop this nonsense negativity that she has brought to your party.
She is trying by almeans to spoil Obama chance against mccain.
She represent Republican at this point.

I believe in both the electoral college and the delegate system....

Otherwise politicians would only pander to huge cities like NYC and Chicago... LA and Boston...

Who cares about a small town or what they need... we can get the votes from the big cities.

We need the system in place, that no matter how many people vote in an area they get the same voice toward who is elected.

I think this is a great idea!

It lets all the states vote for their nominee, lets the superdelegates make their decision before the full convention, avoids a nasty fight in Denver, and lets the party heal before the full convention.

I understand why the system is in place, but they can't change the rules for nominating "mid-stream". With today's politics, the Democrat's nomination system needs reforming to better prepare themselves for the full election in November.

Obama needs time too so that we can vet the vp!

Suppordelegates have themselves to blame after Cilnton tear their party apart.

She knows she can't win this nomination and she want to destroy Obama chances of making come Noverber so that she will run again in 2012.
Believe me she will run for Republican then, because if Obama didn't win November because of Hillary he will run again comes 2012 and Hillary can't beat him.
She will destroy your party before your eyes because you failed to stop this nonsense negativity that she has brought to your party.
She is trying by almeans to spoil Obama chance against mccain.
She represent Republican at this point.

it is the 2 minute warning at the end of the 4th quarter and Clinton needs 4 touchdowns, 2 field goals and a 2 point conversion to TIE.

She can't catch up no matter what now, and making this thing go on to the convention will still result in Obama winning the nomination, it will just do more damage to the Democrats chance to win by then.

Do you Clinton supporters really think that the remaining contests will actually make a difference to who will be in the lead?

If you are so concerned about Rezko... go look up Peter Paul... that is Clinton's controversy... she avoided prosecution because of her Husbands political clout.

Hillary is way down and the math says she can't catch up... With such a HUGE loss in NC coming up, there is NO way for her to ever catch up... it is just impossible in the few states that are left.

The process has run its course.

To FEDUP

Might I suggest you do some real searching.. You could start with Peter Paul VS Clinton. Then you can compare the Rezko and the Peter Paul cases. Dont others do research at all? I dont appreciate being lied to then have the Bosnia situation laughed off as if it isnt a big deal. We are in a WAR who really are dodging sniper fire. If anyone isnt patriotic its Hillary Clinton. She should apologize for this snobby mood, not to me but to our military and their families. No wonder her negatives are so bad.

Obama 08

Are there rules in the DNC that allow for a superdelegate convention to make the selection? I thought that was what the party convention was for, to settle all issues in the party.

Obama'08

America is very thankfull that those two nominees were only nominees.

It's about time the threw out the primary process and electoral college. We have the technology to directly elect a nominee or president. We dont' need to elect someone who then goes and elects someone on our behalf.

The system is flawed. Get rid of it. We need a popular vote system where every persons vote counts. Right now votes of democrats in overwhelmingly republican states (myself in TX) are useless as are republicans in overwhelmingly democratic states (IL).

Popular vote!!!!

Hey Fedup It may not be wise for you to mention Rezko right now! You know hillary has a fraud case coming soon with a guy that makes Rezko look like the pope AND Hillary's pastor just got convicted of child molestation...should I continue? I mean really do you want me to keep going? This is why Hillary is driving the elitist propaganda...do stop her trial from making news!

Clinton '08! Skeletons...not speeches!

Great advice....from two of our losing candidates! I swear once again my party seems to be on a self defeating rush to promote the least electable person to run for President. I am just fed up with the male Party Elders treating this former first lady with such a lack of respect and fairness. It is as if the are saying" Come on Hillary..You have been a good little girl...let us pat you on the head and you just fall in line to support the new guy." Who the hell are they to tell her to get out of the race.? wE HAVE NOT ELECTED A DEMOCRATE SINCE CLINTON! Get a clue people. Obama will lose the general election. He comes across as a snob. His patriotic spsirit...such as it is...rightly or wrongly ...will give the Republicans all the amunition they need...Don't you remember what they did to a real war hero? You know those cross over Republicans will never vote for Obama or Clinton in the general electionn...And if Obama get this nomination you can kiss Ohio, Michigan, Floriday and PA away. But for all those Obama messiah followeres...go ahead...give this to McCain. Just remeber it was your candidate who brought this mess on by his premature grab for power.

Hey kids...for all of you that are worried about "disenfranchising the voters"–

This proposed superdelegate convention is scheduled AFTER the last primaries (Montana and South Dakota) on June 3.

So, everyone will have their voice heard.

But the Democratic party won't spend the whole summer fighting back and forth for superdelegates, and the Dem nominee can start campaigning against McCain, FINALLY.

Hey kids...for all of you that are worried about "disenfranchising the voters"-

This proposed superdelegate convention is scheduled AFTER the last primaries (Montana and South Dakota) on June 3.

So, everyone will have their voice heard.

But the Democratic party won't spend the whole summer fighting back and forth for superdelegates, and the Dem nominee can start campaigning against McCain, FINALLY.

I agree. The Superd's are contributing to the problem by not taking a clear position on either candidate. dammit make a decision and show your leadership. hell you can always change your vote by Nov. if you want........................ geez....

TODAY'S L.A. TIMES REPORTS THAT 60% OF AMERICANS DON'T BELIEVE HILLARY IS "HONEST OR TRUSTWORTHY". WHY ARE WE EVEN HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO SUPER-DELEGATES SHOULD SUPPORT???? ARE YOU ALL DAFT????

Grif April 16th, 2008 11:00 am ET

Just, two more Loser's, selecting another…

leaving out FL and MI is the only way Obama can win I will vote MCcain in Nov.Barak i going to change America make it better so he wife said but not with my vote. this won't get on but this is my O

It is funny to me when people (Hillary supporters mainly) say "Let the voters have their say". It appears to me that the other candidates who withdrew their nomination should come back. At some point you have to realize that things are not working in your favor and do like John Edwards and the rest. It is sad that Hillary is continuing this when she knows it is almost impossible for her to become the nominee. I would say the same if the tables were turned. It is time we become united and reach the common goal (Democratic for President).

if the delegate vote is not what determines the winner and the backroom deals the clintons do puts billary in the white house again, i will do all i can to be obama to form a 3rd party which i think he can win the election because of the clintons and the bush party of failures.

I AM BITTER AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE THE CLINTONS ANYMORE.

As time goes on. Obama is becoming more and more arrogant! Just what we need in the White House, another know it all, arrorgant, can't admit a mistake person! Isn't 8 years enough?
Obama has fooled many people, especially the media, who I think has fueled this Obama mania. As time goes on, people are seeing Obama for what he truly is. Small towns in American built this country and he has showed disdain for them...Shame on him.
McCain has many flaws, but, Obama has more. As a Democrat, McCain will get my vote if Obama cheats Hillary out of the process. He has blocked all solutions for Florida and Michigan voters which Hillary won.
Let the process continue, we will see much more of the real Obama and his hateful wife.

People, calm down – they wouldn't hold the superdelegate primary until AFTER everyone voted!!! Voting ends in June!!! The whole point is that once the voting is over, there is no need to wait any longer before endorsing.

READ THE ARTICLE before you post!!!

Hey FEDUP: You already told on yourself in a previous blog. We all know now that you're a Bush-boy. You're like all the rest of the Republicans and are praying for Billary to win, but the jigs up. It ain't gonna happen. So you might as well take your bitterness elsewhere. Us Obama supporters are happy as can be that we're going to have the man that'll win in a landslide. Maybe you and that racist Kentucky Rep. can get together. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

great idea
we need to move on and get ready for mccain. i feel obama will
be the nominee. clinton has so much baggage and has been around long enought that ever thing will come back to bite her. bacause all the republicans knows it all

I'm not sure I agree with a "SuperDelegate convention" to decide the candidate. It would seem to be what none of us want....the "smoke filled room decision." It would be best if the Super Delegates simply made up their minds and make their decisions as they feel comfortable. That should calm many of the supporters of both candidates and not inflame them that some sort of "Deal" was reached. The number of delegates, the popular vote, the states won and electibility will determine who will be the nominee GIVEN TIME!

Certainly the rhetoric of these candidates should be toned down but, more importantly, the rhetoric of the supporters should be toned down. The past years of Bush need to be stopped. That means that McCain must be stopped and that means that ALL Democrats need to join together to see that the next President AND majority of Senators and Congressmen are Democrat.

This could be an historic election if we all remember those goals.

end this madness.

I would like a list of all who are trying to allow this bad campaigning and attacks to continue(super delegates).So those who are elected officials can be voted out,because they are to weak to make the hard decisions for the betterment of the party.You wander why the republicans have been winning elections.

I support Obama and want him as the democrat nominee but how we as democrats get there whether it's Hillary or Obama, I don't know. This is a very confusing situation, but I will vote DEMOCRAT.

Hillary supporters, how are you rationally against this idea? They are talking about making a choice after everyone has voted. At that point, everyone will have had their say. Why bring it to a convention? In order for Clinton to win at that point, she'll need to have the lead in SOMETHING, be it delegates, votes, states, or what have you.

Are you saying you think that if she's behind in ALL of those categories, she should still fight it in the convention? What would that possibly accomplish that would outway the damage these two men are talking about?

Or is that what you actually want, a chance for Hillary to damage Obama in some sort of sick revenge? I choose not to beleive something that negative about Clinton supporters, so please, give me another explanation?

As we wait for the final results, clearly, neither of them are going to get to those numbers.
It doesn't take rocket science to know that Hillary can NEVER catch up with Obama's.
So, Obama will be the nominee, everyone is just playing for time.
Then, Obama vs McCain, who wins? McCain definately will.

And who cares???

There's no need for a convention of superdelegates, which would trump by confirming or rejecting the votes of many millions of registered voters. Let these men and women, who claim to be leaders and shepherds of the party, act less like sheep before the Clinton wolves, and the nonsense spewed by Howard Wolf's Son.

There has to be individual accountability, not safety in numbers. Don 't want to stand up for your man or woman? Then resign your high post as superdelegate. You, Howard Dean, first of all.

Congratulations to the first Indiana Democratic Congressman who has declared himself. May your colleagues, and those from North Carolina follow your example without taking the coward's way out, waiting to see the spread in Pennsylvania. No wonder so many are proud, angry,and yes, bitter. We have no leaders, just poll watchers.

We hope Clinton is going to win.

Obama talked very rude to the people of Pennsylvania........and the 'made light of it".......basically laughing about it.

We do not need a president who talks badly about the people of America.

Clinton is more experienced.

We hope and feel Clinton should get the nomination.

I live in Texas and went through two caucuses that could not not even describe here, except to say that is was organized chaos with Obama supporters jeering and shouting . I live in an Urban center and it was very hard to be a Clinton supporter. I have notified the DNC to take my name off their mailing list (I have made small donations over many years) as I am changing my registration to Independent. Their treatrment of the Michigan and Florida voters and their exclusion is a disgrace. I have already cast my vote for Hillary Clinton and I hope she becomes the nominee and I could care less now what the super delegates do, most of them are casting their votes for Obama are only doing so to protect themselves from a black backlash in November .Just look back and remember when they forced John Lewis of Georgia to switch to Obama. He either switched or he would have an opponent in the fall. This was one of the icons of the civil rights movement . How sad.

Hc please get out of a race you cant win.i dont know what magic you expect the super delegates to do on your behalf in the convention.
Honestly if they overturn the will of the people this will mark the begining of the End of democratic party.

Obama will surely give you the Vp slot if you behave and stop all sorts of nosense that has been coming out of your dangerous mouth every time it opens!!!!

This should not take place until there is a re-vote in Michigan and Florida. If those states had been counted, Hillary supportors would not have viewed the candidacy as being stolen from her. And as it stands right now, I see it that way. Unless this is resolved, I will vote as an independent at time of the general election, which mean I will either not vote or vote for McCain. I can wait the 4 years to re-elect another.

The superdelegates "thing" should be cancelled as soon as this election is over. We cannot change rules at the middle of the game-had it not been for that, we would have thrown this under the bus because it is causing more harm than good. Hillary will lose her mind if anything goes against her. American people, give this nomination to Hillary and all the problems/troubles we face today will evaporate.

Why is it that when Hillary wants Michigan and Florida's votes to count everyone was up in arms over changing the rules, and rules are rules, and now McGovern and Dukakis want to change the rules by having a super delegate vote in June to wind up the nomination is OK? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the super delegates supposed to cast their votes and the Democratic Convention in Denver? Are not McGovern and Dukakis looking to change the rules? You can't change the rules...rules are rules. There are too many people speaking with forked tongues.

What are people talking about? The people will have voted! They're not trying to "surpress" any votes. And those that are just hoping that dirt will come out about Obama, that's a pretty sad stance to have to take. "Only dirt can save us now!"

Oh boy, what hole did these two crawl out of. They are part of the reason the democratic party and it's current candidates were, and still are, in shambles.

McGovern lost to Nixon even though questions of Watergate were beginning to haunt Nixon. McGoverns campaign was a disaster from beginning to end.

Daukakis (the tank commander), lost to Reagan who many considered to be to old to be President. And they both got trounced.

This wing of the democratic party (including Jimmy Carter a much better humanitarian then he ever was president) has done absolutely nothing but bring the democratic party down. They are not in the mainstream of public thinking. If people start listening to them again I'm sure that when the bell tolls it will be tolling for the democratic nominee. Please, all three of you just go away.

Excellent to see McGovern and Dukakis supporting Hillary. Good job boys, spread the word now to the other undecided Super Delegates.
After the primaries are done, it will be very clear that Barack just doesnt have the support of the Super Delegates.
If she fights on till June 3, she will be the nomination. She leads him by 30 Super Delegates! Thats alot in Super Delegate terms. He wont be able to reverce that. The Media doesnt want show or say that. The longer the race goes on, the more the Media loves it. More drama, more coverage, more ratings! The Media is eating this stuff up so much.

THE S.D. ONLY HAVE ONE REAL CHOICE, AND THAT IS HRC. SHE HAS SHOWN TIME AFTER TIME HER SUPPORT FOR OUR COUNTRY. SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A TRACK RECORD.SHE SHOWS HOW FAR SHE WILL FIGHT FOR US, (ALL THE WAY ). SHE DONT TURN HER BACK ON PEOPLE THAT NEED HER , LIKE THE DEAL IN NEW ORLEANS. HER VOTES FROM THE PEOPLE MEAN SOMETHING , NOT JUST TO MAKE HISTORY. O.B. JUST DOSN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, AND A BIG ENOUGH TRACK RECORD SHOWING THAT HE HAS DONE ANYTHING FOR US. HIS LIFE IS TO LOCKED UP ,WHILE HRC 'S BOOK OF LIFE HAS BEEN OPENED FOR THE WHOLE WORLD. HRC HAS NOTHING TO HIDE. O.B. IS ANOTHER STORY ,THE PEOPLE WILL NEVER KNOW.

That offends Obama support. CNN what is you guys agenda. A Third Clinton Monarch

I think it is a great idea that they meet after all the elections have been held, then decide how to dispense the Florida and Michigan delegates in a manner that is fair to both of the candidates. Then, we as Democrats can pull together and be ready to send Senator McCain back to Arizona where he belongs.

"Maybe every primary should be held on the same day. Then everyones vote would count."

Actually then only the big states would count, which is why it's done the way it is. But, I agree there's a lot to be said for taking a look at the system - for the primary and the general. Doubt it will be changed though, since there are too many BIG and also SMALL states benefiting from the current system, and their reps won't cast a vote that will reduce their influence.

The superdelegates already have a convention scheduled – in Denver.

How come comments like this "This is just a way to try an get Obama nominated while he's out front without letting it run it's couse as designed!" makes it to the blog

Why wait,This lady(hillary)can destroy the chances for the democratic party.Our party has become the party of cowards scared to tell the democratic royal family that it is time to stop shooting thier guns because a lot of allies have been killed by friendly fire.

I am Obama supporter, but i would say I admire the graciousness of some Hilary supporters who recognized that no matter what, the party and the country are important and above any one else.

Hillary people, inform yourselves. The last primary votes are cast early June. The idea here IS to let everyone vote, and then decide this thing in June rather than doing exactly the same thing in August.

I bet if Obama was behind in delegates then they would have made a choice a very long time ago

Florida and Michigan would love that idea (sarcastic).

Let's see: if the voters of FL and MI vote early, they get disenfranchised! But if Democratic Party professional politicians and special interests want to get together to hold an early vote, than it is A-OK with the Democratic Party!

Obama for 2009

There is little doubt that Obama will be ahead in pledged delegates and the popular vote,If the super delegates overturn that they can expect another 1968,and 1972.Clinton backers thought the bitter remarks were going to be their savior.I see it as giving someone on a sinking ship a water bucket to bail water with.

It is simple math for the superdelegates:

Vote for Obama, McCain wins.

Vote for Hillary, McCain loses.

It is that real and simple.

I guess the Dems need to take a serious look at how they hand out delegates so next time they don't shoot themselves in the foot.

"This Rezko thing is not going away."

There is no "there" there. If you read up on it, Obama sold a half of a lot to his neighbor (Rezko) at market prices. Where is the scandal? So his neighbor is a slumlord. Obama should not sell him a half a lot because of that?

Hillary is pretty quiet about Rezko, because that deal ($30,000) pales in comparison to the MILLIONS she has taken over the years from the Chinese mafia, the Arabs, Colombia, India, Tysons Foods, Wal Mart, etc. etc. etc.

$110 million dollars in income. Hillary is truly one of us!

As for McCain going all attack-dog on Obama, that will backfire too. People are SICK of those snarky ads, and Hillary's latest lame attempt to paint Obama as "elitist" and herself as "blue collar" is backfiring.

McCain should take note.

If you think Eagleton was a bad choice, what if you had chosen Hillary? You would probably would have been laughed out of politics all together. Think about it, at that time it would had been a hilarious skit on Saturday Night Live.

What's the matter with the old-fashioned idea of giving the nomination to the person who has WON? Barack Obama.

Clinton needs drop out of the race.

She boils my blood. Filthy rich liar who pretends to help the average american!

OBAMA...

I think its a great move for the super delegates to get out front.The second coming of Joe McCarthy,"Rush Limbaugh" would like nothing more than a second 1972.

Well, I'm sure the bitter queen would just love "an acrimonious battle all the way to the convention and maybe out onto the convention floor."
Isn't and hasn't that always been her M.O. when she doesn't get her way? Reminds me more of a tantrumy child than a dignified 60 year old "politician". But then again, considering the source, when has Hillary ever worried about honesty, integrity or anyone else's welfare?

hmmm....why does this sound, smell and look like a desparate attempt by the Clinton folks to snatch this thing away from Obama? So McGovern, you'd rather have a situation where the so-called Superdelegates will override the wish of the people. No wander you lost.

JUST DO IT AND GET IT OVERWITH ALREADY!!!!

(The all caps was intentional, I am yelling at the dimwits)

That is all.

The choice you make will affect the nation, but not making that choice is also damaging our chances. That is not right. I know most of you are making calculated games to see where their vote would have a weight

This is a good step IF Florida and Michigan are seated before this meeting as the votes were made. No 50/50, etc. Some will not be counted because perhaps they did not show up – but that is so small in numbers compared to the millions that voted in total.

Also, I hope they keep in mind that for a growing majority of Democrats, Senator Obama is unelectable in November. He is become better known and his style of misleading the public is becoming more transparent.

His misrepresentations are terrible and foundational to his campaign. No money from lobbyist? Who does he think he is kidding? Only the young and naive....the rich would benefit only. They don't care.

Wow, these two losers are still looking for their 15 minutes of fame?

McGovern is still alive?

Just what the Dems need – a reminder of their past failures. If we keep saying works like "McGovern" and "Dukakis" over and over again, McCain will surely win.

HINT: Keep the following people LOW PROFILE until after November:

Michael Dukakis
George McGovern
Howard Dean
John Kerry
Al Gore
Jimmy Carter

American has rejected these people at least once already. If the Democratic party is branded with these names, it doesn't help.

McGovern is the reason I'm a registered democrat and have worked hard over the years to support the party!

It is refreshing to hear from him.....

I'm sure he knows what an abomination our Un-Vetted Jr. Senator is.

I'm looking forward to voting for Hillary in November!

I don't know why some super Ds are playing this game with the people. They should make their choice now and let the candidate continue the campaign in peace like McCain. We the people will loose in all of this and every super D who is causing us this pain will pay for it. They can't do this to us.

I don't care if you go for c or o. just do it.

Why on Earth would you want to wait till the superdelegate convention? By then the damage will be done to the Democratic party and there might not be enough time to come together and rally against the Rebuplicans!

When Obama gets the nomination (much to the chagrin of Hillary supporters) there will have to be a push to get the word out.

America, do you want another 4 years after seeing the past 8? Or even 16 years?

VOTE FOR CHANGE. VOTE FOR OBAMA.

I dont like the superdelegate idea for 1 reason.....that have been in politics as long as Hillary and can be swayed based on lobbying and favors owed. IMHO, the only way to be fair is to go with the popular vote.

Just, two more Loser's, selecting another...

And this is coming from a Clinton supporter! My vote's for Obama but I would still vote for Hillary if she went against Mccain, but all this bickering and so many vowing not to vote for one or the other...the democratic party is shooting themselve's in the foot and needs to end this before Clinton take's the whole party down with her.

That doesn't sound good for Hillary.

We need a new system! This is flawed. Maybe every primary should be held on the same day. Then everyones vote would count.

I agree. Let's settle, unify, heal, and win.

Dems (Obama) 08!

This is just a way to try an get Obama nominated while he's out front without letting it run it's couse as designed!

I'm am so sick of this primary…
If Obama wins I'm voting for McCain… I have no faith in BHO!

Let the voters have their say? The more time, the more that can come out about Obama. This Rezko thing is not going away. The lies he tells will show up more then they do now. I have heard what all the candidates have said, Hillary emblished her trip to Bosnia, lets call it a lie. Obama said he never heard Rev. Wright talk like we all heard, that is a lie. Obama then said he did hear it, but did not agree with it, a lie. Obama said Rev. Wright was his mentor, true. He recently said Wright was merely his pastor, lie. Rezko only contributed $125,000, Lie He receive no favors from Rezko,lie Rezkos' wife just happen to need a vacant lot at the same time Obama bought his house. The owner of both places required the lot to sell at the same time as the house? Obama claims he does not take donations from lobbist, lie. It is called bundling, a sneaky way to get the same thing. This is just the start of his lies. Dreams of My Father, trick the white folks by being courteous, smile a lot. He has certainly been successful at that trick.

Please let this fight for the democratic nomination end sooner than later... If Hillary is listening this will happen... Time to stop dividing the party and all the mudslinging.

Obama 08