YORK, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama’s campaign battled Saturday over television attack ads on the issue of health care.
Obama launched an ad in Pennsylvania Saturday criticizing Clinton’s universal health care plan.
“I just heard that my opponent has put up an ad attacking my health care plan, which is kind of curious, because my plan covers everybody, and his leaves out 15 million people, leaves them out in the cold,” Clinton told an outdoor audience here.
The Obama campaign responded to the New York senator’s criticism by pointing to an ad produced by a pro-Clinton 527 that makes the same claims about his health care plan as she does.
Obama’s ad, titled “Afford,” re-hashes critiques he has made against Clinton’s plan since last year, mainly that her plan forces people to buy health care even if they can’t afford to do so. The ad also suggests Clinton will garnish wages to pay for the plan.
“Instead of attacking the problem, he chose to attack my solution. I don’t think that we can just make speech about this,” Clinton continued. “We have to have a plan that we can actually implement that will provide quality affordable health care. That’s what I’ve been fighting for 15 years and that’s what I will fight for as your president.”
The Obama campaign circulated a script of an ad sponsored by the American Leadership Project. “Hillary Clinton’s healthcare plan would help every American get affordable, quality healthcare. Barack Obama’s plan would leave as many as 15 million Americans uncovered…”
“So you would either be one of the millions without coverage, or you’ll keep paying more to provide emergency healthcare for the millions of uninsured. Call Barack Obama and tell him to support healthcare for all Americans,” says the announcer in the 30-second spot.
“Given that they have been engaging in a self-professed 'kitchen sink' strategy that Senator Clinton describes as 'the fun part,' their charges today are laughable,” said Obama adviser Hari Sevugan. “While they continue to employ the say-and-do-anything tactics of the past, Senator Obama is going to focus on the issues that are affecting the American people.”
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There is a lot Hillary is not saying. Being in the white house for eight years, she's learned how to "play the people" which is what she is doing. She is coniving and condescending.
Obama for President.
YES WE CAN!!!
They are both totally fake, with no toe hold on what reality they can deliver. Or course, then they will demonize everyone around them for not making their rhetoric come true.
I' d rather have an option to get insurance instead of being forced to pay for it. Look at social security, I am paying for something I will never even benefit from seeing it will be "bust" when I retire.
Obama's healthcare plan is better than Clintons. Obama's plan will be affordable, Hillary's won't.
GO OBAMA – PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
YES WE CAN!!!
Of the two, we feel Hillary Clinton is the more intelligent, the strongest.
Obama appears to be one who will 'break' under pressure.
Strongley for Hillary Clinton
We laughed about this...........Obama says.......let's campaign.
He is an attacker and denies it.
Strongely for Clinton
Hell hath NO fury as a woman SCORNED !
You're right, Hillary: "we have to have a plan."
Problem is: yours isn't the one.
Good-Bye Hillary!!!! AND PLEASE TAKE Bill, Chelsea and ALL of your ugly NEGATIVITY with you!!!!!
Some people can't take a hint. Hillary we don't want you.
OBAMA all the way
Obama will beat Mccain/Specter any day
Why did you close the comment for 35,000 people coming out to see Obama with only one comment?
Hillary will not be able to afford her health care plan with our economy being destroyed before our very eyes.
well she will plan and ready for president. not obam noghting about health care.
WITH OUR CURRENT ECONOMY, I DO NOT NEED TO BE FORCED
TO BUY ANYTHING.
OBAMA'S PLAN IS MORE REALISTIC!!
'Tis indeed the Silly Season!
Go away, Hillary!
Hillary trying to persuade indepents to vote for her with her lies...
Go Obama! Expose the hypocrisy, the lies and the diabolical nature of the Clinton political machine. We are hehind ya 101%.
Tax everyone who works to pay for health care for illegals. The democrat motto:
Instead of criticism, Obama should be more concerened about his own Health, come November; if not before. The Healthy, the Wealthy, and the Wise....
Hillary will take your wages, the majority of us need a president that is going to save money NOT TAKE more.
Clinton/McCain 08
This is what she wanted. She thought she would use his taking against him, but now they are fighting back.
Who's the whiner now?
Ah, the politics of change at work.
It still amazes me that no one sees through this man.
They're both politicians, so let's choose the one with the better plans, and the superior experience.
HILLARY '08
Does CNN feel left out of the Politico fodder?
Well then, I guess they will just have to debate this , so come on Obama say yes.
O.B. HAS TO COPY HRC 'S PLANS OTHERWISE HE HAS NONE. HRC IS FOR EVERYONE. O.B. IS FOR THE RICH. GO HRC.
Well, i am confused on how she will enforce the health insurance deal.. Also how much is it going to cost each month... How much do you think the people can afford... we are after all not earning 109M in a few years...
the other thing is,when they played on getting car insurance enforced for everyone, it did not end up being cheaper, but much more expensive..
and how come you call it health care, and not health insurance ??
think it would be better to leave out the middle men/corp. and do like most other countries do, pay it over tax instead...
Goggle this paul vs clinton
Clinton leading by 5 points. Hillary is done. What else can she say?
Obama 08.
The truth of the matter is that Hillary Clinton's health insurance plan is a MANDATE
Don't Believe Him
Don't Believe Him
Don't Believe Him
Vote Hillary 08
Obama once again shows that he is not above misrepresentation and deception – his insidious version of 'kitchen sink' politics. Everyone agrees that his plan is inferior and WILL NOT WORK.
Long ago, Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan was rejected. yet, she is clinging to that failed universal healthcare plan to make more money from lobbyists in Washington...shame Hillary.
OBAMA 2008...!!!!
One wants mandates and one doesn't. Okay, enough. People, just vote for the plan you want. We all know the differences here and now it's up to us. The bickering needs to stop so we can focus on fixing our problems.
She is like a car salesman. Dishonest and deciving.
I never understand why people would prefer Clinton's plan over Obama's. Clinton literally says that everyone MUST buy health care or their wages will be garnished.... don't ppl who vote for clinton see a problem with that.
At least he's attacking based on issues, not some stupid tabloid subject. Votes need to know the difference between the two candidates on issues like healthcare, jobs, education and foreign policy.
Make no mistake, Hillary does not care about you or your health care. She is a slimy, ugly, disgusting human being. Go away Hillary, nobody loves you, not even your cheating husband!
Stop your whining Hillary! Pack up your toys and hit the road! This party is over!
Do a Fact Check Senator Clinton Lying again...
Will she ever stop lying to us?
All Smart Americans ban together and DO NOT VOTE FOR
Hillary ROTTEN CLINTON
Come on Penn. Make this over already
"That’s what I’ve been fighting for 15 years ..."
Results: Zilch, nada, nothing, zero, ...
HRC, time to get out of the kitchen and support Obama.
Obama '08
It is true...his healthcare plan does leave about 15 million out. To me thats not universal healthcare.
I'm going to keep on giving my opinion on Obama even if I'm not heard in these blogs.
Don't vote for him
Don't vote for him
Don't vote for him
So if, Senator Obama is going to focus on the issues that are affecting the American people. Why does he then think that the poeple who disagree with him on guns, immergration and trade are just "BITTER"
When Bill put Hillary in charge of healthcare, she magled it up so bad, and alienated so many White House satffers, that Bill pulled her from the project.
Is that who we need to decide what kind of healthcare plan is good for Americans?
American Leadership Project?! Who's that? A bunch of rich Republicans running for-profit hospitals?
Hillary's health care plan is universal and affordable.
Obama's is neither.
Come on BHO, yours is not universal. Why don't you listen to Elizabeth Edwards. She likes Hillary's health care plan than you do. You are just waisting your money on that ad. You can't count my vote.
Hillary 08
Yawn...I am so tired of the Clinton's and their desperation, it is becoming unseemly.
Obama lies about a lot of things and the press helps him by covering up the lies. The press is no longer journalism...it is propaganda. Hitler woulda been proud of your reporters.
The Democrats had the Presidency. Talk about giving it all away. If a couple of decent folks started a write in campaign for Pres/ VP right now I think they might actually stand a chance.
Hillary knows health care. Obama pretends he knows health care. Did he try & help reform the health care system the way Hillary did years ago even though it didn't come to fruition. Hillary is a doer, Obama is a talker.
“Instead of attacking the problem, he chose to attack my solution. I don’t think that we can just make speech about this,” Clinton continued.
AMEN
Mr. Obama – if you can't take the heat of doing what you SAY you would do , i.e. positive solutions, then get out of the pulpit.
Everything is paid for by the haves. Here's to the Dems. They love to punish success. The solution is Fair Tax. Kill social security and let everyone pay as they go.
Obama is a hypocrite. Go Hillary.
This is the primary reason why I am disgusted with Obama- of all of the things to attack Hillary on- why Health Care? He has been playing out of the GOP Handbook from the beginning.
As for the "issues that are affecting the American people" would that include letting everyone's vote count ? I didn't think so.
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Clinton should just quit now for everyones sake!
When Clinton former friends are backing Obama it says a ton!
If people the Clintons have known for 20 years are saying that they have more faith in Obama, a guy they've only known for 1 year …
Well it means that they know a hell of a lot more then we do about the Clintons
YOUR PLAN WAS TRIED AND DID NOT WORK,AND IS LESS LIKELY TO WORK THIS TIME.IT IS TIME TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE HILLARY.
I agree with Senator Obama on Health care. I don't want the government dipping into my pay check to pay for health insurance. If it is affordable, most people will purchase it. This should be a personal decision, not a government mandate. We have enough government interference in our personal lives already.
Obama addicted to nicotene patch and gum avoiding smoking now he is a canidate.
Clinton craves for Organic Vegies and Health Food. Clinton been advocating and creating health delivery programs.
Obama no accomplishment but big talk and lots of promices he is willing to break.
I am a die hard Hillary Clinton supporter and I will never vote for Obama. I agree with Hillary about the MOVEON.com comment. The democratic caucases were tampered with. Hillary Clinton is a fighter. She fought for us as first lady and she will fight for us a president of the united states. Obama is a liar and I don't trust. I am an African Amereican that will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominiee.
"I may not be perfect but I will always tell you what I think, and I will always tell you where I stand," What is OBAMA talking about, with the Illinois legislator he was afraid to vote and let people know where he stood on most issues. He voted 'present' essentially "no comment" 130 times. More than any other Senator. This way he did not offend anyone and could not make quote "change" but now he does promise change if he gets elected in a new office. Lood at his past and see how he stays on the fence. We need a leader not a talker.
The Clintons had eight years to get a health care plan through, and they simply couldn't do it. Hillary Clinton as president would escalate acrimony in congress, and nothing would get done again.
It's time to let someone new, like Obama, work on solving this problem.
Tough little Monster! Hillary. I just love to see her, take on the Men Folk.. Must be one "Hell of a Lot" of her Dad, in Hillary..
Hmmm....I am always wondering – when health care is mandated where do the cost controls come in? We should be asking what industry lobby is donating to the Clinton campaign especially health insurance carriers of which the government, individuals, corporate America, etc will be paying for...I feel it is more attractive to make health care "affordable" for all through cost reductions as proposed by Obama.
P.S. where can we find the list of donors to the Clinton campaign?
Explaining differences between policy is not negative advertising. Hillary did state if people didnt pay, she garnish their wages, so why is she wining abot the ad?
Just duck Hillary, there's more incoming sniper fire from Moveon.org?
Hillary,you didn't get it done before, because of your back room dealings. You won't get it done now. The insurance companies own you.
Clinton's health care plan will take money out of the pocket of the poor who can not afford the loss in pay. With all the problems we have today, the last thing anyone needs is to be coerced (forced) to pay for anything they can not budget. Obama's health care is cheaper and allows for exceptions, whereas Hillary's does not. It is a fairer plan.
What good is Hillary's plan? She has already shown she doesn't have the political skill to get it through Congress. Who needs that kind of experience.
Obama also employs the say and do anything policies of the past, he just has his underlings do it for him. This guy is from the Chicago political machine and has the audacity to act like he is the new kind of politician that never goes negative or chums with old school politicos like Kennedy or Kerry. I can't believe people can't see through this man's hypocrisy or the fact that he lied about his previous position on guns during the last debate.
I have health insurance, but I am glad no one FORCES me to have it. Thats what a mandate is.
What, everyone thinks Clinton means she will madate coverage or you will get a "Shame on you" and wagging finger?? Not sure if she means to garnish our wages, but I dont like when government starts to meddle in my life. Its bad enough they take taxes for their current pork, this is just an excuse to do more of it.
we all know how effective Hillary Clinton is at getting her healthcare proposals implemented ...
Her Universal plan failed once before-there are no changes to it-Why would we think it would succeed now? Think about that-It has some very unrealistics goals. For one, if the government takes full control of Health Care, all of us will be waiting longer to get treatment in a hospital or doctor. The ratio of patient/doctor will no longer exist. Doctors will refuse to participate as well-This is not a cut an dry proposition. There are so many obstacles to look at: Demographics, economic, employment and needs-We have to stop kidding ourselves that Universal Health care is a quick fix. Speak to your doctor or your employer about the what if? You will find there answers interesting.
The only thing Hillary inspires me to do is change channels immediately upon her appearance.
There was a time when I thought there may be a bit of substance within her but she has done all that is necessary to win a oneway ticket to the cloak room.
Hillary I agree with your health care. Obama just want to copy but he can't
stay where you are we know your husband the past so you might do same thing to Americans. More "JAB" then make big punch knock him out now this guy dishonest not qualify for President. The people support
him some are stupid and some Sen. that's support him is not for real they just want to play politic only, they said they like him but in the heard they don't like him at all.
Universal health care is the only logical answer for our broken system, thanks to Richard Nixon. The scare tactics of calling it socialized medicine is propaganda from those who stand to loose a lot of money. London and Canada have such health care and their citizens live longer than US citizens. Truly, greed runs this nation. The health and well being of the people don't measure up against the root of all evil, MONEY.
Hillary's plan is better.
Sen Obama doesn't care for small-town "bitter" Americans, thats why he is spending his time and money only on places where he gets votes.
Sen Obama, please try to get connected to the rest of the country.
Everybody know Hillary lies... Obama UNITES...
We want a UNITER.......... not A Fighter
Fighting is Old......... and so is Hillary's L-I–dea's.
She has got to go!
Yes... We... Can.. in 2008
I too feel too many people are blind-sighted by Hillary. I see through her negativity,deceit,lies: she is so corrupt and needs to get out! Go home with Bill. The way to change old politics in America- by voting Obama...he is the hope!
I am so sick of Sen Clinton! She's to slimmy, even for Washington DC.
Hillary go home!!!!!!!
I am one of the Americans who is left out of Obama's health care plan.
It is easier to attack his opponent's plan when his plan does not include everyone.
Sorry Barach, I am voting for Hillary. It's a matter of life and death for me!
what she is not telling you is, she wants to be the dictator of the american people by dictating her useless taxed healthcare program.
Obama is a liar and he will say or do anything!!! He and his campaign members are bad people.
Hillary is scum. Flush her down the drain along with her kitchen sink!
Just hand Obama a tissue; he does not like tough games, unless he is wielding the stick.
Man, watching Obama on the news tonight (Sat.) he is really getting arrogant. McCain is looking better and better each day. This race, besides policies is, also, about a person's character. I am not happy with Obama's attitude, like swipping off on his shoulder, that was priceless so immature. This democrat can not vote for someone who looks down at people.
I don't get it. After Ms Clinton's attacks over and over again (bitter, bitter!) she blames Obama for fighting back?
She didn't get it done under her husbands adminastration. What make American's think she will get it done if she is president?
Yea, Obama wants to focus on the "issues" because he doesn't want people to know his character. Think about it, Kerry, Mondale and Dukakis did not lose because of the issues, they lost because of their "character" as portrayed by their opponents.
Face it y'all! Not everybody needs health care. So why would the Clinton camp force it on those who are comfortable with what they already have? That brings me to the poor continues to pay for the rich and famous while only getting pittance type service.
Obama says that I will get a quality health plan comparable to what he has now. If I have to put up an extra $1 for the service then why not get the best for my buck?
Down to the final stretch! What won't Hillary and Billary do to shipwreck what they cannot have?!! This madness has got to stop for the sake of humane treatment.
IS there any sense of civility with the Clintons? The days of the "plantation master" has long been gone!
OBAMA is the man for 2008
OBAMA YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN IS NOT BETTER THEN HILLARY, HER HEALTH PLAN IS THE BEST OF YOURS. YOURS LEAVE 15 MILLONS AMERICANS WITHOUT IT, PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE ANYMORE OF THESE FAKE OBAMA.
Why is Clinton whining? If she can't stand the heat, get out of the Kitchen!
By the way, I thought Obama was all about change, tired of the Washington politics. If you're so tired how are you going to beat Mccain?
P.S You have a long way to go buudy, no time to be tired when you're running for the Presidency.
So which is it Hillary? He doesn't know how to handle 'Republican tactics" like you do or he is on the attack? You are simply never satisfied. But good for you Barack! Your ads are excellent. Hillary just doesn't understand, they (the Clinton machine) didn't see you coming. Didn't you know, YOU could be Chelsea's VP for when she runs for office?
Obama supporters are arrogant and elitist just like Obama. Where Obama get the idea of Healthcare Plan? He adoped most of plan from Hillary's Healthcare Plan which made 15 years ago. I just couldn't believe Obama's fabrication. He can buy the media with money but he can't buy voters, they are smarter than Obama and his supporters. Pennsylvania will show them who is ready for next President, and NC, IN, KY, WV, OR, MT and SD. Go Hillary.
Obama you are weak... the debate proved it... you cried foul for three days about it... a real leader would have moved on... I do not want someone in the White House that is not tough enough to answer questions from a journalist...
Wake up democrats!!!
DUH! Sen. Obama is not 'attacking' Hillary he is pointing out the flaws with her socalled healthcare plan! It is FLAWED and he is making it clear to the folks who dont know! Its part of dealing with the issue in letting people know how HE (Sen Obama) is going to address the healthcare issue once he is in office.
The funnt part is the day after Wed debate ~ Hillary TOTALLY copied Sen. Obama's action plan on the war 'The President gives the orders the Generals follow' THAT WAS A RIP OFF FROM SEN. OBAMA!
This woman has no substance and those Hillary supporers who seen the debate and heard what she said the next day (copying his plan of action) if you dont have a concience and sensability to see that Hillary is not fit for the Presidency you are truly lambs to the slaughter!
Sen Clinton can dish it out (or her campaing can but when the tables are turned they complain. Remember what goes around comes around.
I think I am a little confused when Senator Clinton says Obama gives "speeches". Doesn't she give speeches? When she attacks him, she is giving a speech. Guess being "60" does mess up your mind!!!!
Please stop calling names – I am saddned by this.
Harry And Louise all over again... Now who's using Republican tactics? Obama has no shame...
"Focus on issues that affect the American people..." (end of article) Uh... how does health care not affect the American people????
Hillary's right. Her plan covers everyone. Obama's does not. That means that under Obama's plan, health care costs will go up for those who pay, to cover the costs of those who do not, such as those who go to the emergency room and never pay their bill. The only fair system is one in which everyone pays.
The U.S. is the only industrialized nation which does not provide health care for all its people.
I'm not sure why people are saying she's forcing. If you watch her talk about the health care plan, she says it would be a responsibility like buying car insurance. In no way is that forcing because forcing you would be, in an extreme case holding a gun to your head and making you buy it. In a less extreme case it would be having to be pay fines or something for not buying it. That's my take on "forcing" so I don't see how her policy would be just that.
I wonder what her definition of "affordable" is???
Come on, Barack. If people can't afford to buy health care, they can't be forced to buy it; they either have the money to contribute or they don't. Those who REALLY can't contribute, the poor, will be covered in ways that they are now covered. You know that Hillary's plan would simply have us all contribute, as we are able, to the cost so that everyone is covered.
How would you cover those who refuse to contribute when they can? Oh, yes, you'd just leave them un-covered!
Obama is a big liar, the only thing he is focusing on are bigger kitchen sink tactics!!!
HILLARY 08 if not Mc Cain 08
I don't want a plan that force me to pay for something that I may not be able to afford. And I don't want my government telling me how to allocate my money. True universal healthcare would be something closer to what Europe or Canada has. Anything less is not universal and therefore should not be mandated. Obama has the right idea. If we can't do universal then we can at least do affordable.
it looks like Hillary can throw the mud, but doesnt like when a few splatters get on her pants suit. She was used to the elitist position the clintons held in the US and the democratic party for a lot of years. now its changing and she and bill dont like it, they are no longer the center of attention. From this campaign it is apparent there is the Democratic Party and there is the Clinton Party. unfortuantely only one will win in November.
Obama is proud of spending $400,000 a day,$8.00million a month,which may run to $10.millionIThat is in Pennsylvania,Indiana,North Carolina,Oregon etc.. etc.This man is proud of blowing peoples money extravagantly.Some of same people whom cannot afford healthcare,food,a roof over their heads,cannot cope with bills,cannot afford gasoline on daily basis.Is this prudent?? No! and NO! Is this the president people want if elected or nominated?How can we be sure he is not going to blow billions of Tax payers money? A trend and arrogance is being set right now before your own eyes!! He spent tons of peoples money in Ohio and Texas,but Lost!!!! You can dominate airwaves to buy votes from Americans to slide you into the White House,but voters will think it over and block you at the nomination gate and damp you.Good luck Barack.
hillary's plan is really a better plan. she really offers solutions. obama is all rhetoric.
Bring about prosperity and these issues will take care of themselves. We don't need universal health care or other socialist programs that will make for a bigger government but not much else.
OBAMA === A CHANGE FOR THE WORSE !
OBAMA === A CHANGE WE CAN"T AFFORD !
OBAMA IS SUCH A GIRLY MAN !
QUIEN ES MAS MACHO? OBAMA OR HILLARY== HILLARY IS !
HILLARY ES MUCHO MAS MACHO ! GO HILLARY !
Who's complaining now, Hillary? Barak Obama is just telling the truth.
These aren't attack ads, they are highlighting the differences between the candidates. If pointing out your health care plan is an attack, you probably should get a better health care plan.
WHERE is all the money coming from??? WHOSE pockets are that deep? Obama outspending Clinton 5 to 1 – seems to me like something is wrong here!!
I am fed up with Howard Dean calling for the super delegates to commit now. Why? With all the personal issues the DNC heavies seem to have with Sen Clinton....could it be that they can't tell her what to do, but feel they can with Obama? Given his relationship with the IL DNC–bet on it. He has taken party direction since he started in politics. Email the DNChttp://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact.
Go Barack! Crash HER neck inPenn! We love you..
Obama is the one that play dirty...and he has from day 1!!
Down with Obama!
Go Hillary!!
YES WE CAN! Yes he has to respond whenever necessary.
Hillary want to have rough you give to her rougher.
She can't ceculate a criticizen and ecpect her opponent to silent.
Her healt care plan will force you to buy it if you don't want it. simple and correct.
Clinton camp needs to shut up
Who is more of the hypo?
You can' t always criticize someone and ecpect him to be silent.
Now you know how it feels to campaign with criticism. It hurt when someone go negative on you intead on focusing on the issues.
Don't whine now because you stated it Hillary.
I would not want to be forced to have health care if it means that it comes out of the tiny check I get weekly. I can't even afford to pay rent, or even eat a decent meal and Hillary wants to force me to PAY what little I have?
I don't think so.
The republicans will never allow Obama his communist healthcare. This dude thinks he can take taxes from everyone and just give it away to anyone. That will turn this country into a third world. But that is what many of you want to happen to this country because you hate it so much. Just wait, Obama = no jobs, Obama = no healthcare, Obama = widespread poverty, Obama = drug abuse and gang violence, is that the kind of country you want? A call to all of the Malitia, get ready to stop them.
Hillary taking the 'high ground' on health care has always been humorous to me. A reasonable argument can be made that she – -more than any other political figure around - is responsible for the health care mess we've sunked into over the last 15 years. She had an opportunity in 1993-94 to help lead real change on that front, and instead completely botched it. She blamed her failures on the insurance industry's attack ads, but in fact she alienated the Democratic leadership in Congress and submitted a plan that was complete fantasy. She didn't listen to her protege - Moynhihan - and her offering got shot down for the arrogant, devoid-of-reality piece of crap that it was.
I wish Obama would bring this up more - if this is part of the 'experience' she's touting, I don't want to go through that all over again!!!
BILLARY QUESTIONING SOMEONES CHARACTER? YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME...
I would rather have a president who is honest, trustworthy and inspiring although a bit untested, than an arrogant liar, untrustworthy but with more political background.
We surely do not need a "Fighter" as President- we need a negotiator who is sharp, empathic and trustworthy.
What does Obama think we are stupid.,
Ofcource it would cost something.
But Hillary Clinton health care would offer folks coverage from Emergency type coverage like if someone is diagnosed with cancer or has a heartattack they would be covered by a plan.
Someone else might want coverage that covers plastic surgery and laski.
Others would want something is between.
Folks who have nothing in the bank would pay nothing and would fall into Medicaid and Medicare programs.
Give Hillary Clinton credit she is the only one who tried as First Lady to get us universal health care...
She was not the president then.
Shame on lots of black votes who vote for Obama only because he is black.
That is a fact..Geraldine Ferraro was correct.
MD,South Carolina,Missippi,Virginia states were over 50% are blacks
over 80% of black voters voted for Obama because he is one of them.
In States like California,Florida,Ohio,New-York Obama lost..and he will lose in PA and Indiana.....
Eventually Florida would count...or I would switch and become a Republican.
There really is not terribly much to distinguish Obama's and Clinton's health plans. Clinton's 16 page plan does not describe obtaining health insurance as required, obligatory, or mandatory; obtaining insurance is an individual "responsibility". Once her plan is in place, employers who currently provide insurance are "expected" to continue to do so. Does "expected" translate to "required"? One can read-in whatever one wants. It is thoroughly ambiguous.
There is little in Obama's 15 page plan to distinguish it from Clinton's. I tend to agree with him, however, on the point that we cannot rely on the government to decide what we can and cannot afford. (The Department of Education, for example, recently advised us that our family could afford $24K per year towards our son's education. Anyone who can find that amount in our budget will be nominated for the Nobel prize in Economics.)
A few months ago David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler had an op-ed in the NY Times in which they described the health plans of the major Democratic candidates as warmed-over versions of a 1971 Richard Nixon plan that has failed everywhere it has been tried. Its a depressingly good read.
Full disclosure: I am a proponent of Medicare for All.