Comments on: Clinton, Obama campaign battle over health care attack ads http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Floyd Schwartz http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921243 Floyd Schwartz Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:12:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921243 There really is not terribly much to distinguish Obama's and Clinton's health plans. Clinton's 16 page plan does not describe obtaining health insurance as required, obligatory, or mandatory; obtaining insurance is an individual "responsibility". Once her plan is in place, employers who currently provide insurance are "expected" to continue to do so. Does "expected" translate to "required"? One can read-in whatever one wants. It is thoroughly ambiguous. There is little in Obama's 15 page plan to distinguish it from Clinton's. I tend to agree with him, however, on the point that we cannot rely on the government to decide what we can and cannot afford. (The Department of Education, for example, recently advised us that our family could afford $24K per year towards our son's education. Anyone who can find that amount in our budget will be nominated for the Nobel prize in Economics.) A few months ago David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler had an op-ed in the NY Times in which they described the health plans of the major Democratic candidates as warmed-over versions of a 1971 Richard Nixon plan that has failed everywhere it has been tried. Its a depressingly good read. Full disclosure: I am a proponent of Medicare for All. There really is not terribly much to distinguish Obama's and Clinton's health plans. Clinton's 16 page plan does not describe obtaining health insurance as required, obligatory, or mandatory; obtaining insurance is an individual "responsibility". Once her plan is in place, employers who currently provide insurance are "expected" to continue to do so. Does "expected" translate to "required"? One can read-in whatever one wants. It is thoroughly ambiguous.

There is little in Obama's 15 page plan to distinguish it from Clinton's. I tend to agree with him, however, on the point that we cannot rely on the government to decide what we can and cannot afford. (The Department of Education, for example, recently advised us that our family could afford $24K per year towards our son's education. Anyone who can find that amount in our budget will be nominated for the Nobel prize in Economics.)

A few months ago David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler had an op-ed in the NY Times in which they described the health plans of the major Democratic candidates as warmed-over versions of a 1971 Richard Nixon plan that has failed everywhere it has been tried. Its a depressingly good read.

Full disclosure: I am a proponent of Medicare for All.

]]> By: david http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921186 david Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:48:15 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921186 What does Obama think we are stupid., Ofcource it would cost something. But Hillary Clinton health care would offer folks coverage from Emergency type coverage like if someone is diagnosed with cancer or has a heartattack they would be covered by a plan. Someone else might want coverage that covers plastic surgery and laski. Others would want something is between. Folks who have nothing in the bank would pay nothing and would fall into Medicaid and Medicare programs. Give Hillary Clinton credit she is the only one who tried as First Lady to get us universal health care... She was not the president then. Shame on lots of black votes who vote for Obama only because he is black. That is a fact..Geraldine Ferraro was correct. MD,South Carolina,Missippi,Virginia states were over 50% are blacks over 80% of black voters voted for Obama because he is one of them. In States like California,Florida,Ohio,New-York Obama lost..and he will lose in PA and Indiana..... Eventually Florida would count...or I would switch and become a Republican. What does Obama think we are stupid.,
Ofcource it would cost something.
But Hillary Clinton health care would offer folks coverage from Emergency type coverage like if someone is diagnosed with cancer or has a heartattack they would be covered by a plan.
Someone else might want coverage that covers plastic surgery and laski.
Others would want something is between.
Folks who have nothing in the bank would pay nothing and would fall into Medicaid and Medicare programs.
Give Hillary Clinton credit she is the only one who tried as First Lady to get us universal health care...
She was not the president then.
Shame on lots of black votes who vote for Obama only because he is black.
That is a fact..Geraldine Ferraro was correct.
MD,South Carolina,Missippi,Virginia states were over 50% are blacks
over 80% of black voters voted for Obama because he is one of them.
In States like California,Florida,Ohio,New-York Obama lost..and he will lose in PA and Indiana.....
Eventually Florida would count...or I would switch and become a Republican.

]]> By: BB 22S http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921182 BB 22S Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:46:48 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921182 I would rather have a president who is honest, trustworthy and inspiring although a bit untested, than an arrogant liar, untrustworthy but with more political background. We surely do not need a "Fighter" as President- we need a negotiator who is sharp, empathic and trustworthy. I would rather have a president who is honest, trustworthy and inspiring although a bit untested, than an arrogant liar, untrustworthy but with more political background.
We surely do not need a "Fighter" as President- we need a negotiator who is sharp, empathic and trustworthy.

]]> By: GBJ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921180 GBJ Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:45:46 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921180 BILLARY QUESTIONING SOMEONES CHARACTER? YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME... BILLARY QUESTIONING SOMEONES CHARACTER? YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME...

]]> By: Les, Long Beach, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921178 Les, Long Beach, CA Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:45:15 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921178 Hillary taking the 'high ground' on health care has always been humorous to me. A reasonable argument can be made that she - -more than any other political figure around -- is responsible for the health care mess we've sunked into over the last 15 years. She had an opportunity in 1993-94 to help lead real change on that front, and instead completely botched it. She blamed her failures on the insurance industry's attack ads, but in fact she alienated the Democratic leadership in Congress and submitted a plan that was complete fantasy. She didn't listen to her protege -- Moynhihan -- and her offering got shot down for the arrogant, devoid-of-reality piece of crap that it was. I wish Obama would bring this up more -- if this is part of the 'experience' she's touting, I don't want to go through that all over again!!! Hillary taking the 'high ground' on health care has always been humorous to me. A reasonable argument can be made that she – -more than any other political figure around - is responsible for the health care mess we've sunked into over the last 15 years. She had an opportunity in 1993-94 to help lead real change on that front, and instead completely botched it. She blamed her failures on the insurance industry's attack ads, but in fact she alienated the Democratic leadership in Congress and submitted a plan that was complete fantasy. She didn't listen to her protege - Moynhihan - and her offering got shot down for the arrogant, devoid-of-reality piece of crap that it was.

I wish Obama would bring this up more - if this is part of the 'experience' she's touting, I don't want to go through that all over again!!!

]]> By: James West http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921176 James West Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:44:46 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921176 The republicans will never allow Obama his communist healthcare. This dude thinks he can take taxes from everyone and just give it away to anyone. That will turn this country into a third world. But that is what many of you want to happen to this country because you hate it so much. Just wait, Obama = no jobs, Obama = no healthcare, Obama = widespread poverty, Obama = drug abuse and gang violence, is that the kind of country you want? A call to all of the Malitia, get ready to stop them. The republicans will never allow Obama his communist healthcare. This dude thinks he can take taxes from everyone and just give it away to anyone. That will turn this country into a third world. But that is what many of you want to happen to this country because you hate it so much. Just wait, Obama = no jobs, Obama = no healthcare, Obama = widespread poverty, Obama = drug abuse and gang violence, is that the kind of country you want? A call to all of the Malitia, get ready to stop them.

]]> By: Health care the right way, NYC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921169 Health care the right way, NYC Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:43:35 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921169 I would not want to be forced to have health care if it means that it comes out of the tiny check I get weekly. I can't even afford to pay rent, or even eat a decent meal and Hillary wants to force me to PAY what little I have? I don't think so. I would not want to be forced to have health care if it means that it comes out of the tiny check I get weekly. I can't even afford to pay rent, or even eat a decent meal and Hillary wants to force me to PAY what little I have?

I don't think so.

]]> By: At this point we don't know who is hypo. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921168 At this point we don't know who is hypo. Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:43:07 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921168 Who is more of the hypo? You can' t always criticize someone and ecpect him to be silent. Now you know how it feels to campaign with criticism. It hurt when someone go negative on you intead on focusing on the issues. Don't whine now because you stated it Hillary. Who is more of the hypo?
You can' t always criticize someone and ecpect him to be silent.

Now you know how it feels to campaign with criticism. It hurt when someone go negative on you intead on focusing on the issues.
Don't whine now because you stated it Hillary.

]]> By: LD http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921156 LD Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:40:53 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921156 Clinton camp needs to shut up Clinton camp needs to shut up

]]> By: At this point we don't know who is hypo. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921152 At this point we don't know who is hypo. Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:39:03 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921152 YES WE CAN! Yes he has to respond whenever necessary. Hillary want to have rough you give to her rougher. She can't ceculate a criticizen and ecpect her opponent to silent. Her healt care plan will force you to buy it if you don't want it. simple and correct. YES WE CAN! Yes he has to respond whenever necessary.

Hillary want to have rough you give to her rougher.
She can't ceculate a criticizen and ecpect her opponent to silent.
Her healt care plan will force you to buy it if you don't want it. simple and correct.

]]> By: fred http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921141 fred Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:36:33 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921141 Obama is the one that play dirty...and he has from day 1!! Down with Obama! Go Hillary!! Obama is the one that play dirty...and he has from day 1!!

Down with Obama!

Go Hillary!!

]]> By: Emma http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921125 Emma Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:32:32 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921125 Go Barack! Crash HER neck inPenn! We love you.. Go Barack! Crash HER neck inPenn! We love you..

]]> By: a ross lyon http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921116 a ross lyon Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:29:58 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921116 I am fed up with Howard Dean calling for the super delegates to commit now. Why? With all the personal issues the DNC heavies seem to have with Sen Clinton....could it be that they can't tell her what to do, but feel they can with Obama? Given his relationship with the IL DNC--bet on it. He has taken party direction since he started in politics. Email the DNChttp://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact. I am fed up with Howard Dean calling for the super delegates to commit now. Why? With all the personal issues the DNC heavies seem to have with Sen Clinton....could it be that they can't tell her what to do, but feel they can with Obama? Given his relationship with the IL DNC–bet on it. He has taken party direction since he started in politics. Email the DNChttp://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact.

]]> By: typicalAmerican http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921113 typicalAmerican Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:29:46 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921113 WHERE is all the money coming from??? WHOSE pockets are that deep? Obama outspending Clinton 5 to 1 - seems to me like something is wrong here!! WHERE is all the money coming from??? WHOSE pockets are that deep? Obama outspending Clinton 5 to 1 – seems to me like something is wrong here!!

]]> By: Jessie http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921099 Jessie Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:23:40 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921099 These aren't attack ads, they are highlighting the differences between the candidates. If pointing out your health care plan is an attack, you probably should get a better health care plan. These aren't attack ads, they are highlighting the differences between the candidates. If pointing out your health care plan is an attack, you probably should get a better health care plan.

]]> By: Arkansas Undertaker http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921090 Arkansas Undertaker Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:22:03 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921090 Who's complaining now, Hillary? Barak Obama is just telling the truth. Who's complaining now, Hillary? Barak Obama is just telling the truth.

]]> By: L MIAMI FLORIDA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921083 L MIAMI FLORIDA Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:20:47 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921083 OBAMA === A CHANGE FOR THE WORSE ! OBAMA === A CHANGE WE CAN"T AFFORD ! OBAMA IS SUCH A GIRLY MAN ! QUIEN ES MAS MACHO? OBAMA OR HILLARY== HILLARY IS ! HILLARY ES MUCHO MAS MACHO ! GO HILLARY ! OBAMA === A CHANGE FOR THE WORSE !
OBAMA === A CHANGE WE CAN"T AFFORD !

OBAMA IS SUCH A GIRLY MAN !

QUIEN ES MAS MACHO? OBAMA OR HILLARY== HILLARY IS !

HILLARY ES MUCHO MAS MACHO ! GO HILLARY !

]]> By: Jeanne http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921071 Jeanne Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:18:34 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921071 Bring about prosperity and these issues will take care of themselves. We don't need universal health care or other socialist programs that will make for a bigger government but not much else. Bring about prosperity and these issues will take care of themselves. We don't need universal health care or other socialist programs that will make for a bigger government but not much else.

]]> By: lol http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921067 lol Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:17:52 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921067 hillary's plan is really a better plan. she really offers solutions. obama is all rhetoric. hillary's plan is really a better plan. she really offers solutions. obama is all rhetoric.

]]> By: John http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921056 John Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:16:27 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921056 Obama is proud of spending $400,000 a day,$8.00million a month,which may run to $10.millionIThat is in Pennsylvania,Indiana,North Carolina,Oregon etc.. etc.This man is proud of blowing peoples money extravagantly.Some of same people whom cannot afford healthcare,food,a roof over their heads,cannot cope with bills,cannot afford gasoline on daily basis.Is this prudent?? No! and NO! Is this the president people want if elected or nominated?How can we be sure he is not going to blow billions of Tax payers money? A trend and arrogance is being set right now before your own eyes!! He spent tons of peoples money in Ohio and Texas,but Lost!!!! You can dominate airwaves to buy votes from Americans to slide you into the White House,but voters will think it over and block you at the nomination gate and damp you.Good luck Barack. Obama is proud of spending $400,000 a day,$8.00million a month,which may run to $10.millionIThat is in Pennsylvania,Indiana,North Carolina,Oregon etc.. etc.This man is proud of blowing peoples money extravagantly.Some of same people whom cannot afford healthcare,food,a roof over their heads,cannot cope with bills,cannot afford gasoline on daily basis.Is this prudent?? No! and NO! Is this the president people want if elected or nominated?How can we be sure he is not going to blow billions of Tax payers money? A trend and arrogance is being set right now before your own eyes!! He spent tons of peoples money in Ohio and Texas,but Lost!!!! You can dominate airwaves to buy votes from Americans to slide you into the White House,but voters will think it over and block you at the nomination gate and damp you.Good luck Barack.

]]> By: Sepo http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921050 Sepo Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:15:30 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921050 it looks like Hillary can throw the mud, but doesnt like when a few splatters get on her pants suit. She was used to the elitist position the clintons held in the US and the democratic party for a lot of years. now its changing and she and bill dont like it, they are no longer the center of attention. From this campaign it is apparent there is the Democratic Party and there is the Clinton Party. unfortuantely only one will win in November. it looks like Hillary can throw the mud, but doesnt like when a few splatters get on her pants suit. She was used to the elitist position the clintons held in the US and the democratic party for a lot of years. now its changing and she and bill dont like it, they are no longer the center of attention. From this campaign it is apparent there is the Democratic Party and there is the Clinton Party. unfortuantely only one will win in November.

]]> By: Tab http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921039 Tab Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:13:18 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921039 I don't want a plan that force me to pay for something that I may not be able to afford. And I don't want my government telling me how to allocate my money. True universal healthcare would be something closer to what Europe or Canada has. Anything less is not universal and therefore should not be mandated. Obama has the right idea. If we can't do universal then we can at least do affordable. I don't want a plan that force me to pay for something that I may not be able to afford. And I don't want my government telling me how to allocate my money. True universal healthcare would be something closer to what Europe or Canada has. Anything less is not universal and therefore should not be mandated. Obama has the right idea. If we can't do universal then we can at least do affordable.

]]> By: Larry http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921019 Larry Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:09:45 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921019 Obama is a big liar, the only thing he is focusing on are bigger kitchen sink tactics!!! HILLARY 08 if not Mc Cain 08 Obama is a big liar, the only thing he is focusing on are bigger kitchen sink tactics!!!
HILLARY 08 if not Mc Cain 08

]]> By: Ruth Philadelphia http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-921000 Ruth Philadelphia Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:06:22 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-921000 Come on, Barack. If people can't afford to buy health care, they can't be forced to buy it; they either have the money to contribute or they don't. Those who REALLY can't contribute, the poor, will be covered in ways that they are now covered. You know that Hillary's plan would simply have us all contribute, as we are able, to the cost so that everyone is covered. How would you cover those who refuse to contribute when they can? Oh, yes, you'd just leave them un-covered! Come on, Barack. If people can't afford to buy health care, they can't be forced to buy it; they either have the money to contribute or they don't. Those who REALLY can't contribute, the poor, will be covered in ways that they are now covered. You know that Hillary's plan would simply have us all contribute, as we are able, to the cost so that everyone is covered.

How would you cover those who refuse to contribute when they can? Oh, yes, you'd just leave them un-covered!

]]> By: Rhonda http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920994 Rhonda Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:04:39 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920994 I wonder what her definition of "affordable" is??? I wonder what her definition of "affordable" is???

]]> By: Jackson http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920987 Jackson Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:02:47 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920987 I'm not sure why people are saying she's forcing. If you watch her talk about the health care plan, she says it would be a responsibility like buying car insurance. In no way is that forcing because forcing you would be, in an extreme case holding a gun to your head and making you buy it. In a less extreme case it would be having to be pay fines or something for not buying it. That's my take on "forcing" so I don't see how her policy would be just that. I'm not sure why people are saying she's forcing. If you watch her talk about the health care plan, she says it would be a responsibility like buying car insurance. In no way is that forcing because forcing you would be, in an extreme case holding a gun to your head and making you buy it. In a less extreme case it would be having to be pay fines or something for not buying it. That's my take on "forcing" so I don't see how her policy would be just that.

]]> By: Danielle http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920986 Danielle Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:02:42 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920986 "Focus on issues that affect the American people..." (end of article) Uh... how does health care not affect the American people???? Hillary's right. Her plan covers everyone. Obama's does not. That means that under Obama's plan, health care costs will go up for those who pay, to cover the costs of those who do not, such as those who go to the emergency room and never pay their bill. The only fair system is one in which everyone pays. The U.S. is the only industrialized nation which does not provide health care for all its people. "Focus on issues that affect the American people..." (end of article) Uh... how does health care not affect the American people????

Hillary's right. Her plan covers everyone. Obama's does not. That means that under Obama's plan, health care costs will go up for those who pay, to cover the costs of those who do not, such as those who go to the emergency room and never pay their bill. The only fair system is one in which everyone pays.

The U.S. is the only industrialized nation which does not provide health care for all its people.

]]> By: Josmt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920983 Josmt Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:02:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920983 Harry And Louise all over again... Now who's using Republican tactics? Obama has no shame... Harry And Louise all over again... Now who's using Republican tactics? Obama has no shame...

]]> By: jt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920982 jt Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:02:14 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920982 Please stop calling names - I am saddned by this. Please stop calling names – I am saddned by this.

]]> By: Maggie VT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920980 Maggie VT Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:01:54 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920980 I think I am a little confused when Senator Clinton says Obama gives "speeches". Doesn't she give speeches? When she attacks him, she is giving a speech. Guess being "60" does mess up your mind!!!! I think I am a little confused when Senator Clinton says Obama gives "speeches". Doesn't she give speeches? When she attacks him, she is giving a speech. Guess being "60" does mess up your mind!!!!

]]> By: John http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920968 John Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:00:04 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920968 Sen Clinton can dish it out (or her campaing can but when the tables are turned they complain. Remember what goes around comes around. Sen Clinton can dish it out (or her campaing can but when the tables are turned they complain. Remember what goes around comes around.

]]> By: Former Clinton Supporter http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920965 Former Clinton Supporter Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:59:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920965 DUH! Sen. Obama is not 'attacking' Hillary he is pointing out the flaws with her socalled healthcare plan! It is FLAWED and he is making it clear to the folks who dont know! Its part of dealing with the issue in letting people know how HE (Sen Obama) is going to address the healthcare issue once he is in office. The funnt part is the day after Wed debate ~ Hillary TOTALLY copied Sen. Obama's action plan on the war 'The President gives the orders the Generals follow' THAT WAS A RIP OFF FROM SEN. OBAMA! This woman has no substance and those Hillary supporers who seen the debate and heard what she said the next day (copying his plan of action) if you dont have a concience and sensability to see that Hillary is not fit for the Presidency you are truly lambs to the slaughter! DUH! Sen. Obama is not 'attacking' Hillary he is pointing out the flaws with her socalled healthcare plan! It is FLAWED and he is making it clear to the folks who dont know! Its part of dealing with the issue in letting people know how HE (Sen Obama) is going to address the healthcare issue once he is in office.
The funnt part is the day after Wed debate ~ Hillary TOTALLY copied Sen. Obama's action plan on the war 'The President gives the orders the Generals follow' THAT WAS A RIP OFF FROM SEN. OBAMA!
This woman has no substance and those Hillary supporers who seen the debate and heard what she said the next day (copying his plan of action) if you dont have a concience and sensability to see that Hillary is not fit for the Presidency you are truly lambs to the slaughter!

]]> By: Mike http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920960 Mike Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:58:37 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920960 Obama you are weak... the debate proved it... you cried foul for three days about it... a real leader would have moved on... I do not want someone in the White House that is not tough enough to answer questions from a journalist... Wake up democrats!!! Obama you are weak... the debate proved it... you cried foul for three days about it... a real leader would have moved on... I do not want someone in the White House that is not tough enough to answer questions from a journalist...

Wake up democrats!!!

]]> By: Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920953 Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:57:36 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920953 Obama supporters are arrogant and elitist just like Obama. Where Obama get the idea of Healthcare Plan? He adoped most of plan from Hillary's Healthcare Plan which made 15 years ago. I just couldn't believe Obama's fabrication. He can buy the media with money but he can't buy voters, they are smarter than Obama and his supporters. Pennsylvania will show them who is ready for next President, and NC, IN, KY, WV, OR, MT and SD. Go Hillary. Obama supporters are arrogant and elitist just like Obama. Where Obama get the idea of Healthcare Plan? He adoped most of plan from Hillary's Healthcare Plan which made 15 years ago. I just couldn't believe Obama's fabrication. He can buy the media with money but he can't buy voters, they are smarter than Obama and his supporters. Pennsylvania will show them who is ready for next President, and NC, IN, KY, WV, OR, MT and SD. Go Hillary.

]]> By: Lee http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920930 Lee Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:52:48 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920930 So which is it Hillary? He doesn't know how to handle 'Republican tactics" like you do or he is on the attack? You are simply never satisfied. But good for you Barack! Your ads are excellent. Hillary just doesn't understand, they (the Clinton machine) didn't see you coming. Didn't you know, YOU could be Chelsea's VP for when she runs for office? So which is it Hillary? He doesn't know how to handle 'Republican tactics" like you do or he is on the attack? You are simply never satisfied. But good for you Barack! Your ads are excellent. Hillary just doesn't understand, they (the Clinton machine) didn't see you coming. Didn't you know, YOU could be Chelsea's VP for when she runs for office?

]]> By: lisa http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920906 lisa Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:48:27 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920906 By the way, I thought Obama was all about change, tired of the Washington politics. If you're so tired how are you going to beat Mccain? P.S You have a long way to go buudy, no time to be tired when you're running for the Presidency. By the way, I thought Obama was all about change, tired of the Washington politics. If you're so tired how are you going to beat Mccain?

P.S You have a long way to go buudy, no time to be tired when you're running for the Presidency.

]]> By: Obama Girl http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920905 Obama Girl Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:48:18 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920905 Why is Clinton whining? If she can't stand the heat, get out of the Kitchen! Why is Clinton whining? If she can't stand the heat, get out of the Kitchen!

]]> By: HILLARY WILL WIN "YES SHE WILL" http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920880 HILLARY WILL WIN "YES SHE WILL" Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:42:10 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920880 OBAMA YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN IS NOT BETTER THEN HILLARY, HER HEALTH PLAN IS THE BEST OF YOURS. YOURS LEAVE 15 MILLONS AMERICANS WITHOUT IT, PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE ANYMORE OF THESE FAKE OBAMA. OBAMA YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN IS NOT BETTER THEN HILLARY, HER HEALTH PLAN IS THE BEST OF YOURS. YOURS LEAVE 15 MILLONS AMERICANS WITHOUT IT, PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE ANYMORE OF THESE FAKE OBAMA.

]]> By: I AM http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920872 I AM Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:39:00 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920872 Face it y'all! Not everybody needs health care. So why would the Clinton camp force it on those who are comfortable with what they already have? That brings me to the poor continues to pay for the rich and famous while only getting pittance type service. Obama says that I will get a quality health plan comparable to what he has now. If I have to put up an extra $1 for the service then why not get the best for my buck? Down to the final stretch! What won't Hillary and Billary do to shipwreck what they cannot have?!! This madness has got to stop for the sake of humane treatment. IS there any sense of civility with the Clintons? The days of the "plantation master" has long been gone! OBAMA is the man for 2008 Face it y'all! Not everybody needs health care. So why would the Clinton camp force it on those who are comfortable with what they already have? That brings me to the poor continues to pay for the rich and famous while only getting pittance type service.
Obama says that I will get a quality health plan comparable to what he has now. If I have to put up an extra $1 for the service then why not get the best for my buck?
Down to the final stretch! What won't Hillary and Billary do to shipwreck what they cannot have?!! This madness has got to stop for the sake of humane treatment.
IS there any sense of civility with the Clintons? The days of the "plantation master" has long been gone!
OBAMA is the man for 2008

]]> By: California Voter http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920869 California Voter Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:38:29 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920869 Yea, Obama wants to focus on the "issues" because he doesn't want people to know his character. Think about it, Kerry, Mondale and Dukakis did not lose because of the issues, they lost because of their "character" as portrayed by their opponents. Yea, Obama wants to focus on the "issues" because he doesn't want people to know his character. Think about it, Kerry, Mondale and Dukakis did not lose because of the issues, they lost because of their "character" as portrayed by their opponents.

]]> By: ron http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920847 ron Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:33:45 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920847 She didn't get it done under her husbands adminastration. What make American's think she will get it done if she is president? She didn't get it done under her husbands adminastration. What make American's think she will get it done if she is president?

]]> By: Swiss in Canada http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920829 Swiss in Canada Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:27:59 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920829 I don't get it. After Ms Clinton's attacks over and over again (bitter, bitter!) she blames Obama for fighting back? I don't get it. After Ms Clinton's attacks over and over again (bitter, bitter!) she blames Obama for fighting back?

]]> By: mary http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920824 mary Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:26:12 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920824 Man, watching Obama on the news tonight (Sat.) he is really getting arrogant. McCain is looking better and better each day. This race, besides policies is, also, about a person's character. I am not happy with Obama's attitude, like swipping off on his shoulder, that was priceless so immature. This democrat can not vote for someone who looks down at people. Man, watching Obama on the news tonight (Sat.) he is really getting arrogant. McCain is looking better and better each day. This race, besides policies is, also, about a person's character. I am not happy with Obama's attitude, like swipping off on his shoulder, that was priceless so immature. This democrat can not vote for someone who looks down at people.

]]> By: Susie http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920815 Susie Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:24:01 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920815 Just hand Obama a tissue; he does not like tough games, unless he is wielding the stick. Just hand Obama a tissue; he does not like tough games, unless he is wielding the stick.

]]> By: @americans http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920811 @americans Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:23:19 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920811 Hillary is scum. Flush her down the drain along with her kitchen sink! Hillary is scum. Flush her down the drain along with her kitchen sink!

]]> By: Angela C http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920807 Angela C Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:22:38 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920807 Obama is a liar and he will say or do anything!!! He and his campaign members are bad people. Obama is a liar and he will say or do anything!!! He and his campaign members are bad people.

]]> By: disappointed http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920792 disappointed Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:16:21 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920792 what she is not telling you is, she wants to be the dictator of the american people by dictating her useless taxed healthcare program. what she is not telling you is, she wants to be the dictator of the american people by dictating her useless taxed healthcare program.

]]> By: ABG http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920785 ABG Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:15:14 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920785 I am one of the Americans who is left out of Obama's health care plan. It is easier to attack his opponent's plan when his plan does not include everyone. Sorry Barach, I am voting for Hillary. It's a matter of life and death for me! I am one of the Americans who is left out of Obama's health care plan.

It is easier to attack his opponent's plan when his plan does not include everyone.

Sorry Barach, I am voting for Hillary. It's a matter of life and death for me!

]]> By: Yves larochelle http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920779 Yves larochelle Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:13:39 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920779 Hillary go home!!!!!!! Hillary go home!!!!!!!

]]> By: Sabrina Las Vegas, NV http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/19/clinton-obama-campaign-battle-over-health-care-attack-ads/#comment-920764 Sabrina Las Vegas, NV Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:09:12 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=6553#comment-920764 I am so sick of Sen Clinton! She's to slimmy, even for Washington DC. I am so sick of Sen Clinton! She's to slimmy, even for Washington DC.

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