April 23rd, 2008
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Analysis: Did Clinton victory come in time?

 Did Clinton's win come too late?

Did Clinton's win come too late?

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton scored a big victory in Pennsylvania on Tuesday to keep her hopes for the Democratic nomination alive. The question is whether the win came soon enough.

Barack Obama's loss in another big state and the margins by which he lost among blue-collar and rural voters on Tuesday, on the other hand, may raise questions about his electability.

Some polls had shown Clinton with a double-digit lead in Pennsylvania. But in the weeks between the last primaries in Ohio and Texas, Obama had whittled down Clinton's advantage.

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  1. b-liberal

    Once we include FL and MI voters – remember them? Obama has quietly taken that away. Put THEM back in and sway a few superdelagates and we have a horse race!

    Obama's changing tune:
    I will win PA,
    no I mean, it will be close,
    no I mean, she will only win by a little,
    no i mean, she will win with less than 5%
    no I mena, she will win by less than 10%,
    no I mean,..........

    Just reward for Obama's back-door negative tactics.

    April 23, 2008 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  2. matt in austin

    Rus, You are correct. Hillary's big state spin holds no water. Florida may be tough but they always mess it up anyway. She's the one who wanted to change the rules and caused the problem w/ Fla. She is a bitter, arrogant, angry, sneaky, person.

    April 23, 2008 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  3. bill in pa

    Go Clinton Go. Rush Limbauth and President McCain thanks you from the bottom of their hearts. Naive democrats.

    April 23, 2008 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm |
  4. Gregory Lynch

    Obama cannot win the general. I love how you say she should drop out and she is hurting the party etc. He gets crushed by McCain in the fall. There is no argument there. She has been working for this party and done amazing things way before Obama came along. HE is hurting the party. She could have been wrapping up the general by now. If you want McCain in the fall then vote Obama. If you want the democrats back in the White House then please knock it off and vote for Clinton. I do this for a living and I can guarantee you that he WILL lose in November if we let him become the nominee. The republicans will destroy him...he has no experience, he is much too liberal for the general and he has skeletons like everyone else that are now coming into the spotlight. If you cannot win Florida and or Ohio then you cannot win and Hillary defeats McCain in both and Obama gets killed in both.

    April 23, 2008 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  5. Lee WV

    She still has to convince the superdelegates to take the nomination away from the candidate that is ahead in popular vote,delegates ans contests won and give it to the candidate that is behind in all those categories.Her only claim is that he cannot win the big states.She did admit on national TV yes,yes,yes he could beat McCain.These primaries are democrat against democrat,the general is democrat against republican,get real ,do you really think all of the votes she got would go to McCain?

    April 23, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  6. Sandy

    Stop with the "outspent 3 to 1″ stuff. Clinton would have spent the $$ too, IF she had it to spend. If she outraised him and outspent him, we'd have heard about it every day for the last month. But she didn't. The fact is, she's broke.

    But she won because she was backed by PA Governor Ed Rendell, Phila Mayor Michael Nutter, and other elected officials in PA who ran a campaign for her every day on every news and TV channel and at every opportunity, that she didn't have to pay a cent for.

    Plus, PA has the second oldest population in the US, second only to FL. The old racist white people in PA voted for Clinton. Yeah, there's support she can sure be proud of.

    April 23, 2008 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  7. Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Every American needs to understand one thing. It seems to me that the media will do and say anything that will keep Hillary Clinton in the race. The media will cow tow, step and fetch it to insure Hillary gets her say. I am so disgusted with the media on all the networks. The journalism in this country is horrible they are paid for and bought by the Clintons and the GOP. The media tells you how to vote and why you should vote a certain way. America needs to understand they can not trust television news they can not trust ABC, FOX NEWS, CNN and MSNBC. They never and I mean never do any substantive journalism or investigations any more. They get e-mails from the Clinton staff and give the media there talking points and just like puppets the media goes on the air and perform for her.

    When John McCain or Hillary Clinton wins the White House and the country is still falling apart the media are the ones to blame. So when our country goes to war un-justifiably, or when PACS and lobbyist still have control of our country. Blame it on the media they are public enemy #1 as far as I am concerned. Instead of the war terror it should be the war on the media they are the real terrorist. They are the true enemies of America and can not be trusted.

    April 23, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  8. Hussien for America

    The Hillary "win" only means that the 'average Joe' can still be DUPED by a PHONY LIAR of a politician ! So basically NOTHING has changed with PA voters in the last four years; my guess is if GW had been running again, the majority would still vote for him, despite continuing to loose jobs.
    GOOD WORK PA (and ABC News) !!!

    April 23, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  9. 58 old white ladies for OBAMA




    April 23, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  10. Diane

    Clinton won in Penn. Big Deal One asks themselves who supports her-- Old white people, and blue collar workers who obviously are "dumb" She appeals to them because she can talk the talk, and they are not too "swift" in the brain to see what she is doing. Same thing happenerd in Ohio. Lots of blue collar workers!

    April 23, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  11. Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Obama is on track to raise another 40 million in April

    April 23, 2008 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  12. Party switchers voted for Obama...

    Interesting! Smart republicans.

    April 23, 2008 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  13. alice2

    Barack is the winner. Pennsylvania was the only LOSER, but they can still have a chance to VOTE BARACK OBAMA in November. Real CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

    April 23, 2008 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  14. farley

    I'm surprised that Hillary won in a state where her husband's NAFTA policies are the cause of blue collar woes. Either those voters werent too smart or smear politics works. If the contest was analogous to office politics, its apparently ok for a white woman to claim inequality while smearing a visible minority to improve her career chances.

    April 23, 2008 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  15. Michael G Ventura, CA

    SHE not HE is hurting the party. If you've been a Democrat as long as some of you say you have been- you know that California, New York, PA, and with luck Ohio will vote Democrat.
    She had a nice victory in PA-unfortunately, but NC and Indiana will erase that it one evening.
    Her almost 60% negative numbers should be enough for any Democrat to see that she wouldn't be John McCain.

    April 23, 2008 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  16. KEN

    With the Governor, two prominent mayors, Bill, and Chelsey and the DNC party and MSM backing her, HRC could ONLY come up with a 9% win, DOWN from 20%!
    The MoJo momentum is with OBAMA.

    April 23, 2008 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  17. Pappu

    Stop squabbling over the size or timing of her win. Admire the woman for the fight in her. She will win this for the democrats in the fall. And she will fight for us every single moment, just like she says she will. If you don't see that, you deserve the last 8 years.

    April 23, 2008 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  18. anonymous

    It's nice to know that a lot of money spent does not always buy you a win (ex. Mitt Romney, and now Obama)

    1. Hillary has trouble raising big money because her base does not make big money.
    2. Obama's base has more big money people in it, but he can also argue HUGE numbers in the donor column.

    Conclusion: Hillary should have taken a lesson from Obama and gone after those SMALL donations sooner. Small donations have a way of adding up; pennies add up to dollars, after all.

    As it stands now, she may have waited too long for it to matter now.

    April 23, 2008 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  19. bernice

    Hey Demobrat, Funded by the People for the People. Very wisely spent, We cut her lead in half. The only reason HRC could not spend more money is because SHE DID"T HAVE ANY! Idiot.

    April 23, 2008 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  20. Michael G Ventura, CA

    And to the Texas "democrat" that called Obama "uppity"-can you say Jim Crow?

    April 23, 2008 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  21. Helena

    It does not matter – Senator Obama received another Superdelegate today – The Governor of Oklahoma! More will join the Obama team before Indiana & North Carolina.

    April 23, 2008 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  22. Linda

    'Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.'

    April 23, 2008 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  23. john st. louis

    Apparantly to some Pennsylvannians its still worse to be black than it is to be a blatant liar (sniper fire tall-tales). News flash people she was going to win this primary anyway. Plus Obama picked up another endorsement after a loss. OBAMA 08!

    April 23, 2008 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  24. nina

    Yes, i'd like to know how she can use the case that she's more electable when she can't beat her own Democratic opponent.

    Didn't she say "yes, yes, yes" when asked if Obama was electable?

    And last night on the smart board, they showed that G.W bush did not win Pennsylvania, Kerry did, yet Bush won the WH, and kerry did not. So where is her arguement now that winning PA means winning the WH.
    Didn't she use the same line in OHIO? "Winning Ohio means winning the WH?

    I'd just like to see what "roots" she has in NC and Indiana cuz apparently she has lived and has roots everywhere she goes.

    April 23, 2008 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  25. Arlene pa.

    Hillary will make a bad president. It will be the same politics . We need new leadership Barack Obama is the best choice. Yes we can go Obama.

    April 23, 2008 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
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