April 23rd, 2008
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Analysis: Did Clinton victory come in time?

 Did Clinton's win come too late?

Did Clinton's win come too late?

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton scored a big victory in Pennsylvania on Tuesday to keep her hopes for the Democratic nomination alive. The question is whether the win came soon enough.

Barack Obama's loss in another big state and the margins by which he lost among blue-collar and rural voters on Tuesday, on the other hand, may raise questions about his electability.

Some polls had shown Clinton with a double-digit lead in Pennsylvania. But in the weeks between the last primaries in Ohio and Texas, Obama had whittled down Clinton's advantage.

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  1. Willy Fischer, San Francisco, CA

    Frank, Missouri, got it right: Hillary Clinton knows she cannot win this time around but the longer she keeps chipping away at Obama's character the more likely it is that he will lose in November against McCain. That's what she really wants: Make a run for it in 2012. With McCain being as old and nasty as he is, she will have a very good chance of beating him after four disastrous years.

    It is unfortunate that our country can't muster some better candidates for president than what we presently have.

    Hillary Clinton: a very shady past
    Obama: very little experience
    McCain: a good navy pilot but a mediocre senator who once got a reprimand from his colleagues in the senate for using bad judgment!

    April 23, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  2. Kevin

    We can end all this speculation with just this. Would Hillary and her supporters trade places to be in Obama's positon right now, hummmmm? In a heartbeat.

    April 23, 2008 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  3. Kristy

    I don't mind a close contest, I just wish the Clintons weren't going so negative. Surely they must be able to see the damage they are doing to the Democratic party and still they persist.

    If Hillary gets the nomination, I'll have no choice but to support her, but I've lost much respect for her because she doesn't seem to care about what she is doing to her party (and ultimately the country).

    April 23, 2008 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  4. Rich

    "The road to Pennsylvania Ave. runs through Pennsylvania." – Clinton

    Depending on the route you take, you can't get to the White house except through Maryland and Washinton, D.C. or Virginia and Washington, D.C. Obama had a commanding lead of 23 points in Maryland, 28 in Virginia and 50 in D.C. Does anyone really get fired up over her vacuous argument?

    April 23, 2008 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  5. Will-South Dakota


    April 23, 2008 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  6. Read this

    Obama is a good guy. He will be a good president.

    April 23, 2008 01:35 pm at 1:35 pm |
  7. Tammy - KCMO

    All I keep hearing about is how many won't vote for Obama if he gets the nomination. How about how many won't vote for Clinton? As an independent, I know I won't and if this happens I could care less if the democratic party comes crashing down. This circus led by the media is going to make me decide not to vote for a democrat if Clinton gets nominated.

    April 23, 2008 01:37 pm at 1:37 pm |
  8. cachito

    For years I have voted for candidates who will not generally feel comfortable in my neighborhood and now I am told that " oooh Barack can not connect with these people and does not feel comfortable" so he can't get their vote. Since when has the candidates ideas and ability to move agenda in a divided house and senate been trumped by how at ease they feel drinking a pint in ones neighborhood

    April 23, 2008 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |

    Since the beginning of the race, i'm watching all the contenders in their fight for the white house closely. we have a freshman vs an experienced woman in politic. To me if that woman is really strong asthe media say, the freshman would be the one in a very hard position, in fact he should be out of the race since IOWA. Yesterday it was 55 vs 45; when we are strong we stay above 60%. overall, what's happened in Pennsylvania tells me that the freshman stays the sronger because the experienced woman has been politic for long time. Guess what's next! I bet he will beat the 71 years hold if he's the nominee. Please do not make fun of my english. Next time i'll give my comment in french. A la prochaine gentlemen!

    April 23, 2008 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  10. D.Kimbro OHIO

    Wake up Clinton Supporters. She was ahead by 20+ points when the this race started. The was a piric victory at best. Winning in a state where you could mis-lead the populus with that staged debate, ran by two long time Clinton friends will not translate well in the general election. There are just as many delegates up for grabs in the NC and IN. Congratulations to this fear-mongering liar. I fear for the fate of the world if the people are stupid enough to elect this lady. These selfish people will lead us down the wrong path.

    April 23, 2008 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |


    April 23, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  12. Barack the Vote in RI

    In the midst of all this hoopla I think we're all forgetting something. Win or lose it takes MONEY to fund a campaign and they have 10 states left. Even though the Hillary Clinton negative, at any cost, campaign blood bath continues, she's going to need alot more money than she has to finish her campaign in the next few months (if the DNC even allows this mess to continue) and Obama is still on track to break fund raising records in the final months......you can't run a campaign if you can't pay for one. Last night after her big SINGLE DIGIT win, she raised 3 million – whoop de do. No wonder her thank you speach was in essence about an hour of begging.

    The fact remains, he's still ahead in states won by a DOUBLE DIGIT margin, he has more pledged delegates and he's still ahead in the popular vote....and it's only a matter of time before the superdelagates have had enough of the Billary desperate, cut throat, "kitchen sink" tactics which are doing nothing more than making things easier for the Republicans. Obama was criticized for not stooping to her level and now that he's merely defending himself, he's being accused of the same crap she started in the first place! Wake up people.....Pennsylvania – you made a mistake.

    OBAMA '08

    April 23, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  13. Marie7

    YES. The tide has turned, the people have seen the "real" Obama, and made their decision for Clinton. If Obama should somehow steal the nomination, as he can't win the battleground states we need for a win in November, then the majority of Clinton supporters will vote for McCain or stay home. Therefore, if Hillary is not the nominee, McCain will become the next president. The Superdelegates wil have to take this into consideration in addition to her winning the popular vote, and almost all the major battleground states we need in November. Obama can't win in November no matter what he does. Hillary Clinton will be out next President.

    April 23, 2008 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  14. Chris

    All that this race has shown is that the longer Hillary and Obama have time to back and forth at each other with negative tactics, and lying about things that have experienced in their past all the while being supported by the people they claim they despise. John McCain can sit back and save money on his campaign while the two very inexperienced candidates bicker like children. AND to anyone supporting Obama or Hillary b/c they claim they can get the troops out in six months is a logistical impossibility, keep being negative and you will easily wrap it up for McCain in November….Would you want an experienced doctor to perform heart surgery on you or an intern who tells you he hopes he will do ok….?

    April 23, 2008 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  15. Kevin

    Hillarys wins have not surprised anyone with the exception of NH while all of Obamas wins have shocked the entire world.

    April 23, 2008 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |

    Some of you Obama supporters are just plain PATHETIC! How dare you insult the people of PA? Why? Because they didn't vote Obama? How dare you think that voting Obama makes you so intelligent? How dare think that voting Obama gives you the moral high ground? Hpw dare you think voting Obama makes you better people? YOU ARE THE TRUE PATHETIC ELITISTS!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 23, 2008 01:48 pm at 1:48 pm |
  17. CT Chriss

    Of course not! What a question!

    It has been known that HRC would win Pennsylvania for the last 2 months and, even with that, there is no reasonable or plausible way for her Royal Clintoness to get the nomination without disenfranchising the majority of the Democrats.

    April 23, 2008 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  18. Michelle

    Hes not running against Clinton in the fall, blue collar workers will flock to Obama before McCain, they just happen to like Clinton better.

    Theres no electability argument. How can a person whose won more states, more votes, and more delegates lose in the electability argument? He cant.

    April 23, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  19. keith

    A win is a win, but his numbers give him a win in the end. It's doesn't matter and Clinton supporters should fight, but vote for Obama in the Fall if he is the nominee.

    Just as i would have to suck it up and vote for Billary because I can't vote for Grandpa McCain and his billionare trophy wife

    April 23, 2008 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  20. Liz

    Clinton needed this win and she got it. I think she deserves to win and I hope you people in the states that will have primaries coming up, go and vote for her. She is a fighter and thats what America needs right now and not a wimpy person who has no backbone.

    The media keeps harping on about the money Obama has but even with this money he is still losing the big states. That's good money being wasted on a candidate who does not deserve it. Clinton may not have the money but her supporters will help her in every way possible to get that nomination. Let Obama and his corporate sponsors spend all of his millions but he will still end up the loser. Also, Florida and Michigan have to be counted or it will not be a fair election. Lets get rid of Dean and put someone else in charge of the DNC. He needs to go along with Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Clinton, you go girl and show them what a fighter is all about.

    April 23, 2008 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  21. Democrat, NC

    ATTENTION PLEASE: Hillary Clinton did not win by double digits; she won by 9.38% which does not round to 10%.

    April 23, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  22. Angela

    You have to keep in mind that the republicans crossed over to voe the the democratic primary. They think that John McCain can beat Hillary easier tha Obama.

    So my question is is it really a big victory she won with the big margin because people who have no intentions of voteing for her in November voted in the primary

    April 23, 2008 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  23. pc

    Clinton should go ahead and bask in her victory. This will probably be her last.

    Barak Obama for President – Yes We Can!!!

    April 23, 2008 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  24. Al

    This whole thing sickens me. I can hardly wait until my visa comes through so I can get out of here forever.

    April 23, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  25. Helena

    49 former John Edwards backers from North Carolina including John Edward's top advisor are endorsing Senator Obama at this moment!

    April 23, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
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