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Let the superdelegates vote their conscience!!!

I’m tired of some people saying “The super delegates have to vote for Obama because he has the lead in pledged delegates.” I have found it helpful to discuss the delegate math as follows: Clearly, just over 50% of the total delegates are needed to win. When all the primaries and caucuses are done, it's likely Obama's pledged delegates will provide him with 41-42% of the total delegates and Hillary's pledged delegates will provide her with 38-39%. That shows the public was nearly equally split between 2 popular candidates both in terms of pledged delegates and popular vote.

The voters were unable to choose a nominee so the super delegates need to decide whether to push Obama from a bit over 40% to 50% or whether to push Hillary from a bit under 40% to 50%. They should decide based on who they think has the best chance of beating McCain. It's as simple as that.

If Obama’s pledged delegates had provided 49% of the total and all the super delegates then sided with Hillary, that would seem like the nomination was "stolen". But they both will only have about 40% of the total based on pledged delegates so I don't see the big outrage if they push either candidate beyond 50%. Nothing was “stolen” because neither came close to the 50% needed based on their pledged delegates. I voted for Obama but I will support Hillary if she is the nominee.

On the Right! The Dominant Male. On the Left! The Woman??????

You know what, if I hear one more thing about the popular vote, I am going to burst...................

I am from Iowa and the Clintons consistantly say (while breaking the rules) that FL and MI votes have been disinfranchised. Hillary says it is the popular vote that matters. Well, look how many caucus states that she disenfranchises in that analogy.

If supers go off that they are going to really tick people off in how many states????

I am all for MI and FL being seated but it should be fair, why don't you just average out the electoral votes in all the races and split them that way.

Oh, thats right, it is her way or not at all...politics as usual.....no thanks!

Sorry, Wolf, but I have to disagree with one of your premises.

Who is winning the electoral states at this point is moot. After there is a nominee selected, most (but granted not all) of the people who voted will vote for the Democratic Candidate. Also many votes will then come from people who could not vote in the closed primaries because they were either Independant or Republican and did not want to commit to the Democratic Party even thought they prefer the Democratic Candidate. This could greatly add to the votes for either of these candidates during the November election.

To base a decision on just half of the votes cast during the primary for either candidate does not reflect the number of votes that would be cast for a single candidate later.

It's best just to utilize the existing premises that actually WILL matter to the primary. Namely, total primary votes, total delegates and total states won. Votes/delegates from states that violated the election rules previously agreed to by ALL of the Democratic Candidates should not be figured into the totals. I realize that this upsets the voters in Florida but they really need to focus their outrage toward those responsible in THEIR STATE that caused this. I agree that it's sad but it's not correct to blame the DNC or any of the individual candidates. It was the Florida Republican Legislators that caused this and they're still laughing.

Clinton folks keep talking about her experience. Please tell me ... what experience? She was the wife of a governor and then the wife of a President. Then she became a senator (appointed by the DNC for a state she didn't live in) so she could run for president for several years on the public dime. Now she is in debt and I think it is not just money at stake... She obviously has alot of hidden political debt to politicians, companies and foreign interests who have backed her and Bubba over the years . Then there is the furniture she borrowed from the White House.... ha!
At this point I think she is off her rocker and I think most of her experience is in her imagination. She would be a dangerous person to have in any leadership position because she's crazy.

I wish Obama supporters would get their heads out of the clouds and stop dreaming of the perfect candidate and try and think logically about who can really win in Nov.

This is an example of why Obama will not bring into play republican states.
in NC Obama will crush Hillay in but who cares.
It will go replublcan in November
In Virginia and Missouri Obama will get 95% of the African American vote but they will 100% end up as republicans
Dream on if any dem thinks that rep states will move to dem party.
The only hope either party has of winning the white house are the purple states, the one that make the diference in the general and Obama has not won even one of these states and he has not won the big core states like CA and NY. These will go to the dems whoever is the nominee, but PA, Ohio, Florida, and Michigan will tilt to the republicans
Why
Hillary won PA and Ohio.
Florida and Michigan are not being allowed to count in the dem primary so many many voters will be angry at Obama for keeping their voices out of the procees unless he benefits

Judy Green, . . .You just described Senator Obama.

Yes We can.

Those that argue that she has garnered more electoral votes than Obama are absurd. First of all, she is running, right now, against another democrat. Your argument would be plausible if she were running against a Republican. I would imagine that most democrats that voted for her in the primary would vote Democratic in the fall. While it was impressive that some gathered lots of statistics to back their argument, your case is fundamentally flawed because it lacks logic. The case has to be made in the parameters that were outlined by the DNC at the beginning of the primary season. This is a case of changing the metrics to suit your candidate. Unfortunately, these metrics cannot be changed. Everybody agreed to the rules before the contests began; therefore, everyone should abide by them.

If the democratic party wants a win in November they need to vote for the person who will be the strongest to beat McCain. Hillary and Obama supporters do not like each other and that is not going to change – so you have to look hard at each one and decide who would do better with solving the ever most serious problems we are right now facing. Who is the toughest but not stubborn, who will cross over in the aisles to get things done. Who will look out foremost for the American people. Sometimes you just cannot unite people so we need a person who will know how to handle that type of situation.

McCain has a very good shot at getting the Presidency because there is real genuine hard feelings running high in the democratic party. I hope the superdelegates make the right choice.

Hey Mike: nice analysis. This is all good that you can do math... but you are missing the fundamentals. It doesnt matter AT THIS POINT how Hillary will do in the GENERAL election because SHE IS NOT THERE YET, she IS NOT EVEN IN THE LEAD. What is wrong with these people?!?!? You are speaking on hypertheticals. In the event Obama is the nominee and you are looking at General election numbers, Hillary will be NO WHERE around, so why would you give her any numbers for the general election.

That was a nice argument for Hillary indeed, but its inaccurate.

Also, while there may be some people who are stupid enough to vote for a republican over a BLACK MAN, there are still many dems that WILL, (when Hillary finally leaves), vote for him and he will win the GENERAL ELECTION as the democratic nominee / President.

It is NOT Hillary's time, she put up a good fight but the fact is SHE IS LOSING... now lets unite and stand behind our nominee, even if he is BLACK!!!

If he was a white man, we would not be having this conversation.

mike you have listened to hillary to much today
the math is mich and florida don;t count looser hillary

I just have to say that I guess so we won't see riots and violence we need to support Obama. Of course, we will lose to McCain with Obama but if we must be politically correct the superdelegates should vote for him. Of course they will lose their seats by making the lesser of the two intelligent decisions but we should probably do the right thing so African Americans can say they at least got this close. Again, this is not about race but it will be if he doesn't get selected.

So, I'm for Hillary 'cause she will beat McCain. But, again, if we don't want riots and fires and murders we need to push for Obama.

about all this type of talk is worth is TV ratings. How can anyone with half a brain think the democratic party can take away a victory from Obama, IF IN FACT, in early June he is leading? Its total nonsense to count votes from Michigan when Obama was not even on the ballot, this is typical Clinton nonsense. Give them the split in Fl with an even distribution of votes from the other canadates and split the delegates 50/50 for Michigan, if that makes everyon happy. BUT, lets get this over with and begin the real battle, McCain vs Obama. ENOUGH ALREADY, hasn't everyone had enough of OPERATION CHAOS? How can any sane person watch TV any more where all you hear on every news channel is HE said She said?

To be perfectly honest..............I believe the superdelegates are truly to blame for why this race is going like it is. If they had confidence in either candidate they would have come together and endorsed one by now. But quite possibly.............they don't think a white woman or a black male can beat a white male for president in this country no matter how bad a candidate the white male is. I have my same doubts as well this can happen but the sooner we pick a candidate and join behind them as a party the better are chances are of defeating the republicans. This indecisiveness is not helping!!!! We are undermining ourselves when we should be focusing on pointing out the damage the republican party and their president have done to our country!!!! Why this is not obvious to everyone in the Democratic party is beyond me............

Nice one Mike. Too bad that in a general election, the candidates are running to obtain electoral votes, not delegates. Also, your numbers mean nothing because in a general election, one of these two nominees will be running against John McCain, not each other. By this, I mean that the candidate that performs the best will be the candidate that can gather as many of the other's democratic supporters once the party unifies. Polls have shown that more democrats will support OBAMA than Clinton if he is nominated. Also remember that independents overwhelmingly support Obama, which makes Clinton much less electable. BOTTOM LINE: IF YOU ARE A CLINTON SUPPORTER, DON'T TRY TO PLAY WITH NUMBERS BECAUSE MOST OF YOU ARE UNEDUCATED ANYWAYS.

The primary election is about elected delegates and Obama has already won.

2-3 super delegates will flow to Obama each day for the next 13 days before the next round of elections.

Someone needs to tell Clinton it's over.

obama all way to the big house and i do mean the white one on pennsyvania ave
go obama

Hillary.... Pick me..

Obama... Pick me.

How about none of the above. Go with Edwards and Gore.

Naw, bad idea.

Go with Hillary she is the best candidate.

Barack Obama is the Right person to be president! Hillary ACTS like she is in touch with all types of Americans. She tries way too hard and its not genuine. Basically, she would do anything to win which does not stop short of lying to make herself look more qualified.

If Hillary was not married to Bill she would NOT be in her position. She is all talk and a walking contradiction. She supported the war....Now she opposes the war. She says Barack is not electable...Now she says he can win. Come on Hillary a little more consistency please! We need a president that gets it right the first time. Obama is the true leader, that doesn't go crying when things aren't going his way. He finds strength to face difficult topics and most of all inspires people that traditionally do even vote to get to the polls. That's a true LEADER!

She was a chairperson for Walmart for years and one of her core responsibilities was to improve the rates in which women are hired and promoted within the Walmart Corporations, she FAILED at that attempt. And now she wants to talk about improving are economy, please.

Bottom line, Hillary is just riding the wave that Bill created! She's not all she is cracked up to be. Plus she lies about being almost shot at, seriously, how LAME it that!

Obama Rules!

Anyone else see the irony in Dean's urging superdelegates to vote NOW? He, himself, is a superdelegate, and has not voted..

Most supporters of Obama will vote for Hillary if she becomes the nominee, and will support the democratic party.

Most supporters of Clinton will abandon the dems and vote for McCain if Obama becomes the nominee.

One group will do what's best to support the dems-afterall the two candidates have almost the same platforms and solutions.

One group will not only tear apart the dem party, but will also support a man who will further Bush's beliefs.

Are we that childish to destroy things just because they don't turn out the way we want them to? We should be adults about this and support WHOEVER becomes the nominee because we all love this country.

These super delegates speaking up before the states have had their chance to vote are ridiculous. I saw the interview with Richardson and Carville last night. Richardson was pathetic...I mean disgustingly so. He belongs back in the 5th grade and I remind you that New Mexico went Clinton. Yeah, you represent Richardson. Good luck Obama in the general....you will need it. You cannot attract moderates which is what most of the country is. This is so deja vu of the 1972 election.

Everyone who backs Obama says he is a Uniter! Has anyone looked how divided the democratic party is lately? His holy than thou image is destroying the democratic party, not Hillary. 42% of Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama, including myself.

If all the previous voters (pre Wright, San Francisco, Ayers, etc...) would have known who the true Obama was before they voted, then there would be no issue. I bet alot of people want their vote back and Hillary would be the nominee!

Technology makes it possible to break down voters into many catagories
which is shared with all of us on CNN – percentage of white males, blacks, educated, blue collar, young, over 65, etc. I want to know how many Republicans changed their registration to Democratic so they could vote for Hillary and then re-registered as Republicans so they can vote for John McCain, believing she will be a weaker candidate? I know this is being done, I just want to know how effectively?

Too many Hillary bashers posting to Cafferty files so I guess I'll start posting over here. I agree with everything 'Z' said above.

the folks that toss the mi or fl popular vote into their calculations need to give their heads a shake. If they are going to add those numbers then the equivelent numbers need to be added for the caucus states again Obama has the clear advantage.

it's technically done Wolf. The math doesn't add up in any way shape or form according to the established and agreed upon rules. Regarding electability perception for big swing states or electoral states remember in the primary you are voting your preference NOT rejecting the other candidate. The general is a whole other ball game.

look ladies it may be your time.... but HRC is not the one ..........all I see are ladies comment on why Hillary should win.........if Hillary can win North Carolina then she has an arguement to win.........but Obama close a 20+ point margin........and you can say there is virtually no diversity in either OH or PA........so if you feel that your candidate is ready then have her take his constituents out of NC.........he has done a good job of keeping her at arms distance........you got to remember that Obama doesn't have a president on the campaign trail forhim every day of every day..........so out spending is one thing .......Hillary had every political figure that was somebody on her team except (what ever his name is) SO 9 POINT VICTORY ....congrats Hillary and company........but the states diversity in NC doesn't favor her so lets see what she does........but I'm not buying that people in OH and PA will not vote for a Obama because he is not white.......or because his pastors 30 seconds of fame.......if America is truly this divisive then take a trip to Mexico.....and you will see our future

I know of two people who have maxed out their donations today for Hillary. Both first time doners, both saying no way they can vote for Obama after actually seeing him in action for the last months.

Most democrats I know, are more comfortable with McCain than Obama if thats the only choice they have, they at least know McCain is a patriot and Obama is looking less and less presidential if he is forced to get off his speech track and respond to any real issues.

Oklahoma Governor Brad Henry and OregNebraska supers have endorsed Obama today, as well as Superdelegate Rep. David Wu. The superdelegates lining up for Senator Obama are coming in slowly but surely....drip, drip, drip. Soon Hillary will not even have the superdelegate base in her corner – her last vestigae of hope....gone.

Judy Green April 24th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Barrack Obama is not the right person for our president. He is not in touch with all of the American people.

Hmmmm....who do you suggest Judy? Seems Hillary is out of touch with young and educated voters and McCain is out of touch with everyone and anyone that doesn't vote repub for the sake of voting repub.

The clinton spin is more than lies- it is destructive to the party and her image.
Talk about 'bitter and angry' did everyone catch Carville on LKing... He could not find his VOICE!!!!!
Judy Judy–You have obviously never seen Obama in the flesh-He is so comfortable with who he is that he does NOT HAVE TO LIE EVERY OTHER DAY TO BRING THOUSANDS TO Him. Actually, she has never brought the calibur or magnitude of crowd to her speeches. VOTERS can trust and believe him–unlike clinton .

How do you avoid losing Florida and Michigan in the General Election if you ignore their vote? Sen. Obama demonstrated a lack of respect for these two States when he didn't allow his name to stand. He and Howard Dean simply wrote them off. In retrospect, a bad decision, as Sen. Obama's decision may harm the Democrats in the General Election and his decision has certainly made the work of the Super delegates very difficult. Sen. Clinton made the right choice by allowing her name to stand in these two States. Her decision demonstrates that these two States are important to her even if Howard Dean and Obama wrote them off. Howard Dean's ego created this problem.

Or the Super Delegates could schlep the nomination away from Barrack Obama who will have won it fair and square playing by the party rules. They could award it to the Queen of Entitlement and her supporters would be happy. Blacks and young people who have joined for the first time would justifiably take to the streets and abandon the Democratic Party. The party's better educated members would also leave it as the demographics show they go for Obama too. Do you Clinton supporters really want that to happen just because you want your girl to win so badly? The predictions are that many of you say you will not vote for Obama when he beats her out of this, but would go for McCain instead. That is really sad and indicates you have darker reasons for supporting her than her policies which are nearly identical to his. Do the math; she is already over.

Mr. Wright's mentee Obama is no longer electable. Obama has no right to disenfranchise the voters from FLA and Michigan.

The DNC and superdelegates know that Obama cannot reach to the base of this party while Hillary has.

Hillary is ahead in the popular vote by 100,000

Vote democrat – Vote for Hillary

Yes she will!!!

Bob,

Changing the rules again!

So now you say to disinfranchise caucus states, that eactly what you mean to suggest. The system was set in place agreed to and now lets cahnge it as we go. It does not work taht way and you and all the other Clinton supporters know it.

You are doing exactly waht she is doing, these caucus states do not matter! Does she want to be the president of onlythe big states?

If you have a problem with the process – go right ahead and get it changed after the election.

Mike,

I hate to inform you, but we are not in a general election this is the primary election. Wishful thinking, but your candidate is behind! Get a clue!

Clinton is the stronger nominee. A month ago, with his teflon coating, Obama was the stronger nominee. But now he is a deeply flawed candidate.

However, so much MEDIA POUNDING has been made of Obama being african american, and new voters (like they all love obama -not clinton) that I think they WANT to find an exuse to give it to Obama without insulting the intelligence of the core base of the party, and the mainstream democratic voters.

My bet is they will TAP DANCE their reasoning they must nominate Obama no matter what, and then they will PAY FOR IT dearly when he loses the election.

i hope the 'supers' don't destroy our only hope,in a long time, to change this grid-locked nation.unite behind obama!

Neither! They are both Lawyers who have a European Style Socialist Agenda

Although I support Obama, I believe it is over for him. He is a wonderful candidate, a fresh voice and a uniter. The reason Barack lost those 200,000 PA voters to Clinton is fear. They are afraid because the clips they heard from Jeremiah Wright established a deep discomfort and they were no longer sure they knew who Obama was. So, although I don't think the superdelegates are as afraid of Obama as the voters are, I think they will back Clinton. The campaign and debates will be predictable, boring, politics as usual.

I support the OHIO Governors opinion, only Hillary could win big states to get enough electoral votes to win the presidency. If Obama is the nominee Democrats will loose the election --IF this becomes true please e mail me on 11/05/08.

Your picture selection for the 2 candidates clearly shows who you support CNN. Its a sad day when Faux News is more balanced than CNN. You should be ashamed.

I just have to wonder, If those other states that voted before Obama true colors started coming out and the primaries that still had Edwards on the ballot who would be leading now. In the beginning I truly thought I could vote for either Obama or Clinton. I'm glad I'm in Indiana because of the time we have had to hear and see who Obama really is I can and will only vote for Clinton. I would hope that all those super delagates think about how many people who already voted may now wish they had a chance to do it all over again, Oh they do in November.
Denise
Indiana

hillary's followers are also harping on the downturn of the economy and that she will be the savior. now, this is a stretch. her minions are forgetting about nafta and her vote for the war. nafta outsourced millions of jobs out of the country, ergo, millions of american jobs lost; her vote for the war, we now know was a total catastrophe and huge failure in terms of lives of thousands of american, allies and iraqis and billions of dollars siphoned off our economy. with these, they want hillary to save us? she can't even manage her own campaign!

enough said.

Common! Clinton needs to be the nominee, she has won states that a democrat has to win to get in the white house!!!

Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Florida are key swing states that DONT WANT OBAMA!!! They want Clinton and if Obama gets the nomination, might as well hand those 70+ electoral votes to McCain....

I know one thing for sure. If the nomination of the DEM presidency is decided by 300+ super delegates and NOT by our votes, I am not going to vote in November. It doesn't matter if we vote because somone else will decide anyway. What a democracy! This is getting so bad. Our country is in critical shape and we need to get on with electing a president and NOT by a small group of people who are called super delegates! I am so tired to reading about all the "spin" that is put on everything. We are in trouble and I do not see any light at the end of this dark tunnel.

REMEMBER....

PER THE RULES
(and we know how much Obama preaches about following rules)
...
THE SUPERDELEGATE SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE THEM COMPLETE FREEDOM AND AUTONOMY WHEN MAKING A DECISION....

Mr. Obama: DO NOT try and move the goal post in the middle of the game. Remember, John Kerry & Ted Kennedy are voting for Obama–EVEN THOUGH their state voted for Clinton in a landslide.

INDIANA
4
HILLARY

To avoid the perception that super delegates are swaying the election, they should voice their opinions slowly over the next month or two. That way the final contests, with votes from the people, will be what puts either one candidate or the other over the line. Waiting until August benefits very few people.

Over the past few months I have realized that Obama is much like an ice berg. What you see is NOT what you get. I really suspect that deep within him and his wife reside a hatred for all white persons and others who have power and who don't support the Muslim world. I'm not jumping on Hillary's bandwagon, but if I had to vote for only
Hillary or Obama I would definitely vote for Hillary - though I don't like nor trust her, either. I do believe, however, that she is American, through and through. Obama may not be an American thru and thru. His wife definitely isn't.

Why can't Hillary close the deal..? CNN won't ask the question. the clintons have been around for years, why can't she close the young buc out..scared of the answer...white politics.

If Hillary wins the nomination, my vote will be with her. If she does not, I will vote Republican. Incidentally, I vote for the person and not for the party. I grew up among people who would vote Democrat no matter who was running. I vote for people I feel will attempt to do the job and have the ability to do so. I would rather have a President like George Bush for example who does what he thinks in his heart is correct even if it turns out to be wrong than someone that simply looks at how politics will deal with the decision made.
I do not trust Obama–think he is a slick talking politician more interested in being President than he is in the people and determined to be the first black president. Black does not bother me. I would have voted for Collen Powell if he had run as I could trust him and know he would try to do what was best for the country. (I am white)

Obama represents youthful hope and change, a breath of new life into this cynical time. Hillary represents division and the snarly past.

Let us hope Barrack wins because if he wins, we win. It seems like a no-brainer anyway–he has already got all the math on his side and Hillary cannot possibly catch up to him; he leads in most pledged delegates, most states, most votes. Only an idiot or rabid Clinton supporter would blame the Michigan/Florida situation on him. He has just played by the rules that were set by the Democratic Party leadership and agreed to by all the candidates, including Her Highness the Queen of Entitlement. Use the CNN delegate calculator, she would have to win 70% of ALL the remaining pledged delegates to even tie his total. That is just not going to happen no matter how hard the Clintons swift boat Obama.

With this reality in mind, is it not time for the Clintons to start thinking about supporting his candidacy instead of continuing the Tonya Harding treatment that they have been giving him? The party needs the Clintons and her supporters to help Obama win the presidency in November. Or they can vote for McCain and go to ....

"Who are you goning to call? Hillary of course, she can fix anything, Hillary is fixing Obama's wagon." – Jim

How is she fixing Obama's wagon? I guess you mean sabotage with Rove smear tactics.

Hillary didn't fix Health Care the first time around. She didn't fix the inane desire to invade Iraq. And with her integrity virtually non-exisitent and talking of "obliterating" Iran while criticizing Obama for wanting diplomatic relations to solve things peacefully, I don't see her fixing our nation's image in the eyes of the rest of the world.

I am a democrat and have not chosen a particiular candidate. However, I know how the rules work. The rules state that the person with the most delegates should win the nomination and that person is Obama. If these rules are not followed that does not say much for the character of the democratic party. I cannot be apart of a party that cannot follow the rules that they made. I will then have two choices; vote for McCain or not vote at all. I will probably choose the latter.

These Obama supporters writing in are fanatical! It's really scary. Zero intellect and irrational responses. I think the Kool-Aid trough is empty at long last however. Whew!

Hillary is such a joke! Give it up sister!!

OBAMA '08

Alda....get yourself informed. That is an AD, that Hillary paid for. Obama has had them on here before also. It's not like CNN said, "Hey Hillary, we'd like to help you raise some money so please allow us to put a link up on our site for ya'."

The campaigns for each person have paid for the ads to be up on the site.

I like what Stacy Clarks said. I too want a democrat and I'll take either Obama or Clinton. I would prefer to have both.

Unite the party and decide to run together!!!

I am not white nor Black.
Looking at the way the white America is going especially the older folks (age 40+) it appears that the racial divide is still there and will remain there for a long time. This is the main reason why Clinton is winning and Bill has been good at mentioning the race card all the time to make sure that the white America votes for Hillary Clinton.
Lets look at the other side if Obama is not the candidate then certainly the Black voters would feel snubbed. If they feel that and they have the right to vote say for McCain then Hillary Clinton will not get into the White House . May be the Americans need to look at themselves and see why they need this Black man OBAMA to be the president.
1. It will most probably bring America better relations with the rest of the world.
2. No more old politics.
3. Stronger America
4. Better life for the Americans.

ARE WE READY FOR A CHANGE?
IF SO THEN VOTE FOR OBAMA.

Hillary was a liar. Hilliary is a liar.

The superdelegates do not want riots on the streets. Most will vote Obama.

Obama 08

hillary supporters keep on harping that obama will not win against mccain in november. i wish i have their foresight and intellect. that way, i'll be a very rich man and i don't have to work anymore. i'll just sit and read their innocuous blogs. i'll be fun to see how they'll eat their words when obama is declared the nominee and the winner in november. fun, fun, fun.

The superdelegates should have made up their minds by now. And lets' face the facts, no matter how the Clintons have tried to change the rules. This race is about delegates and in the end; Obama has and will have more delegates. He received more delegates because more American voted for him over Clinton. The superdelegates do have a choice; however they can not change the will of the American people. Having said that, they should crown Obama has the winner so the entire Democratic Party can unite so we can defeat John McCain in November.

Answer to Question #1: Barack Obama

Answer to Question #2: Barack Obama

I AGREE WITH MIKE
WAY TO GO AND SHOW THE COUNTRY THAT
OB CAN NOT WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION
WAY TO DO THE MATH
RIGHT TO THE POINT
DO WE REALLY WANT MC CAIN TO WIN
WE NEED HILLARY FOLKS
LOOK AT THE MATH

HILLARY '08

She enjoys this....she is really in her element, she's God's Pit Bull

obama is the strongest person to win his campain is veryorgangized
people ard willing to support him because he doesnt talk downto them. he hasnt lied to them. why would any want alier for a president?
he doesnt have to prove anything he allready has. the clintons are the
insiders all the experince and they cant put this guy out. that ought to
tellyou something. i wonder how long it will take the superdelelegates
to figure out that with allof the clintons spins. shes making them look
like they are notto smart?

Susan MO,

Insulting? Obama? No no no no no no no.
Its Hillary who insults the people by dismissing all the people in the states she has lost, you know.

As far as her experience, with the judgment like NAFTA and the war vote she obviously hasn't learned from her excperience.

Everyone is making a big deal about Clinton winning most of the bigger states but let's remember just because you win the state's primary it doesn't mean you can win in November!! Obama's camp can state she can't win the smaller states which balances out!! You have to win the smaller and big states to win the Presidency period!! The voters from Michigan and Florida were on the outside looking in because their elected officials made bad decisions but moving their primaries up without DNC approval and Hillary is trying to stir the pot up there with voters because she can't catch Barack in pledged delegate!! Clinton could care less if Michigan or Florida voters if she was ahead on delegates!! She is losing far and square right now so how can she beat MCCain in November if she's can't beat Obama in April!!

Primaries are not true tests of who the voters want. Too many crossovers trying to influence for the weaker candidate. If close, but no winner, going into the convention, the pols should choose the party's candidate.

Mike, you spent a lot of time explaining how things would play out in a general election with Hillary vs Obama. Two points:

1. Obama has shown a much better understanding of the strategy of the primaries and especially caucuses. Do you really think he would have used the same strategy he used had the apportionment rules been like the general election?

2. Whoever the Democratic nominee ends up being will be running against a Republican, not a Democrat. Unless you think Hillary is a drop in for McCain, the primaries are not a clear indicator at all about how these states would play out.

I would ask both Clinton and Obama supporters to ask which candidate is most capable of picking up the independent and switch-over republican votes this fall?

We have seen record numbers of independents and republicans switching parties in PA, OR and countless other states to ba able to take part in this election. It is widely accepted that most of these cross overs and first time voters are casting their ballet for Obama (i know I am as a recently converted republican to democrat).

While the mainstream democratic base will most likely pull themselves together in the fall and vote for whomever wins the nomination, I do not believe the independents and converts will follow if Hillary is the nominee.

HIllary, the way she has run her campaign (not saying that Obama is blameless) provokes an inherent negative reaction in those of us who have reently joined the Democratic party. If she is the nominee in the fall you will see some of us vote for McCain, but you will also see many more vote AGAINST Hillary.

A vote for Hillary in the primaries is going to equal 2 votes against her in the fall.

To Susan MO

Sadly enough, we elected Bush twice and he also
- lacked any experience for running a country. Hence, the mess we are in today
- slammed the people with his repressive policies
- insulted the dignity and intelligence of Americans in every possible way

I am not sure how HRC has "more experience" to be a president. Being a first lady doesn't qualify anyone to run for presidency. "She is for the people?" – Which people? lobbyists? PACs? I am a New Yorker and it doesn't seem she is for all the people. She is for those who can support her re-elect and help her run her political machine. I will give you this much....HRC is a true fighter. Her perseverance wins my respect, but her policies and decisions as a public official are a different story.

Clinton's go to court tomorrow. Will anyone cover these FRAUDS??

Mike your delegate count is great! just how many undecided and borderline democrats are REALLY going to vote for McCain if their candidate doesn't make the cut? NONE! history shows these people just stay home and don't vote at all. The two parties are way too far apart on policies at this point to have a bunch of undecideds on the fence threatening to go to the other if this is the case. I don't see Barack or Hillary telling us that we can stay in Iraq for another 100 years and that $4 a gallon gas is something we have to get used to, and still pay more taxes! Why is it ok for the members of congress to have free health care when they are our "public servants"? Why did McCain collect social security benefits when his wife is worth a $100 million? Did he really need the money or could it have been used to feed the homeless? How many other members are collecting it at the exspense of our elderly? Fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on ME!

Wow... This experience vs non experience issue is so funny. To be totally honest, neither one of them have experience being President as neither one has been President or Vice President.

The issue of her winning the big states is also funny. Does everyone really believe that all of those states would automatically become republican states. Once a democratic nominee is selected, many people will still vote democratic regardless of who is selected.

I personally believe so many people are looking at Bill Clinton Presidency and giving Hillary credit. Which to me is not the correct thing to do. We are living in a different day & time so what Bill Clinton did or whatever obstacles he faced will be totally different than what the next President will encounter.

I would say let the remaining states votes without all this negativity and see where things stand. The clear winner will be the one with the most states won and the most pledge delegates. If popular votes really matter a lot then Al Gore would have been President. Let just keep it real!

The Obama people are willing to win even if it is by exploiting race, playing the race card, winning at the flawed caucus format and disenfranchising democratic voters.

They are willing to win by cheating and deception.

The media really bought into the hype and elevated Obama to star status. The corupt DNC swiftboated Hillary to give Obama the edge.

But we want a president, not an entertainer.

Let's keep this going until June 3. Why not? By then Hillary and her ilk will have no choice but to conceed. By then Florida and Michigan will not matter because Barrack will have enough of the popular vote in total to negate anything Hillary can try and hold over our heads regarding Florida and Michigan. Barrack will still have the most delegates and states won too. Keep it going. The truth will then hopefully set us all free.

This is democracy in action. To think this so called battle is hurting the Democratic Party is ludicrous. This all has to happen because this is the way the system was set up. The process will bring everything to light.

Please stop stating that if Hillary won NY, CA, OH, and PA that only she could win those states in a general election. This is a faulty argument. A Democrat will win CA and NY just like McCain is sure to win TX and probably FL.

PA is not indicative of how the rest of the US will look during the general election. If you want a better idea of how the country will turn out during the general election look to Missouri. In another week the news cycle will have forgotten about PA and will have moved on to NC and IN.

As a Canadian, I find US politics to be great entertainment – I've become hooked on it. My two cents worth is that if Obama continues to lead in the delgate count and popular vote, he has to become the nominee. I think Clinton is devious and dirty enough to steal the nomination with siuperdelegate votes, but that would without any doubt lead to a Mccain win. Stealing the nomination from the first black nominee in history would have Obama democrats staying home or voting Mccain in droves – they would not flip to Clinton.
BTW Wolf, you are doing a great job of unbiased reporting. (more than I can say for some of your colleagues)

Never give up Hillary, we love you. lol

McCain 08

Judy Green: There is not and never will be a president that can identify with EVERYONE. That is an absolutly rediculous statement. Hillary has no clue what it is to be poor, she has no clue what it is like to grow up in a single parent home. She has no clue what it is to be any nationality but white. The difference between Obama and Clinton is, and you said it, he speaks and seeks the TRUTH.

If the superdelegates select Senator Clinton as the nominees, then they can kiss the Democratic Party goodbye forever. The Clintons are not adverse to cheating to obtain their goals, but good honest Democrats will not stand idly by and be cheated out of the nomination. So superdelegates, you can lower your intergrity along with your sense of rightness and the join the despicable Clintons by destroying the Democratic Party.

Senator Clinton is so set on getting the nomination by hook or crook. If she does not get it, then she has shown that she has and will give John McCain enough ammonition. Therefore she will run again in 2010. Well, Sen. Clinton, I will never vote for you, because of your morals. I don't play in the gutter.

tar – Atlanta, GA

Barak's honesty versus Hillary's lies: Hmmm! Who would make a better President....

Barak's intelligence versus McCain's senility: Hmmm! Who would make a better President....

The democratic party is a joke...Obama needs to build a new party full of justice and equality and closed to PACs, special interest and racism. A new party for justice and equality...Looking for new rules in the middle of the game and hesitance of superdelegates to support the nominee supported by most American is undemocratic.
Every body know that the single criteria for nomination is the delegate count...

Hillary can remain in the democratic party and she will fails in November 100%...

The new party may not win this year, but sure few years later...Many good generations are coming...
I'm an independent who strongly support Obama. I will be glad to contribute monthly to his new party...This is the only way for a real change in America...

The superdelegates are intended to vote for the good of the country and the party.

They are not supposed to just mirror the popular vote.

Hillary had their support at the start and they need to return their support to her. She is no American Idol- but she will be the best president.

Superdelegates are Smart and in most cases experienced people. Hillary with much less campaing money than Obama (because regular hard working people are supporting her with money) has proved that she is the only one that can beat McCain in the most important States regarding to electoral votes, so they will endorse Hillary and she will win the nomination and the general elections in Nobember. After that everybody is going to thank the remaining superdelegates for they support to Hillary.
Hillary for President 2009!!!
PS: CNN this is the 3rd time I'm trying to post my commet in this article, so please post this one.
Thank you.

Hillary Clinton will make the best president we have ever had.

Obama CAN win! Even Hillary stated he CAN win. He represents what this country needs CHANGE, INTREGITY, ENERGY & LIFE!!!! People are afraid of change! We need someone that we can believe in someone that will inspire this country to rise!

OBAMA 08'–OBAMA 08'--OBAMA 08'-OBAMA 08'-OBAMA 08'

The Democrats are contentious by nature, and time and time again it's what beats them in the elections. They don't seem to be able to get together on much of anything.

In my opinion John Edwards needs to come forward, bring his pledged delegates to the party and watch the so-called super delegates climb on board. Is that going to happen? Time will tell.

In the meantime if Obama and Clinton continue the way they are going now, they might as well make reservations for the McCain Inaugural Ball.

Judy Green... this race has gone on and on because Hillary DOES NOT connect with all of our people... not even the majority. I'm white male who is quite proud to have worked under 3 different female supervisors, and I will not vote for Hillary. You really think she, an ex-first lady multimillion dollar senator from NY really connects with blue-collar low-income families? She has gone back on everything she has every said she stands for. From gun restrictions, to free-trade, to the importance of voters, to sniper fire, to high-moral campaign standards, to believing in hope not fear. She will do anything to win because her political career will crumble if she loses this race. I can't bear the thought of another scoundrel in the white house.

If Clinton has been leading the country as she claims, she should take responsibility for the sad economy.

Mr. Blitzer, you can chose to spin the story, it will not make any defense. It should never be a question of Who. The answer is very simple. Whom that gets more delegates, more popular votes who won more states if all that did not mean nothing for CNN just give Hillary the nomination.

Those kind of funny stories put the Democratic Party all at war because people like you try to manipulate those Hillary uneducated supporters to create some foolish question about electability.

You need to grow up, stop exercising poor judgment on your journalistic duty. I am a retired Veteran, in the Army they will label you as Derelection of Duty.

If there was any doubt about power corrupting, watching Clinton's amoral pursuit of it is a horrifying reminder of its truth.

It really isn't about whether HRC or Obama can win the big states in the Dem. primary, Who else are dems. going to vote for? The big question is who can attract the independant vote! That is OBAMA. Think about what would happen id HRC got her way and the Supers disenfranchised the black vote by going for her! Can the dems. afford to have blacks stay home, or even worse, vote rep.?

"Perestroika" = CHANGE started in Russia at1985.
In 1992-95 they cobplitely colapsd!
Where Mr.Obama /The Primadona/ is leading us?
We still do not know!
Does he? May be you should ask his Pastor-Mentor!

Hillary and her campaign workers like Mike have no shame in twisting data to their advantage and pretending to be telling the truth. What a bunch! The Dem Party leaders are weak. Otherwise they would not allow Hillary to be doing the dirty work for the Republicans, watching Hillary, Bill and MaCauliffe and the gang shift the goal post ad infinitum to suit their goals (pun intended!). Can the leaders of the Dem Party come out and define what constintutes a win? Isn't that simple? Why allow these bunch of fairytalers to be babbling around trying to confuse the crowd? Here is the danger in allowing this. Not everyone is literate enough to know what is happening. The less literate Democrats may become disillusioned when Obama is finally declared the winner if they are not made aware of the rules at this time. Unfortunately, Hillary has most of the illiterate members of the Party. They may then feel cheated and not vote for Obama. Howard Dean, TIME IS UP!!!

TO Susan from MO.

She is also

1. An experienced Liar
2. A seasoned Liar
3. A flip-flopper
4. A manipulator
5. A deceiver

Get real, the Republicans will have a field day with her. She is incorrectly believing that her past won't come back. When the Repulicans attack her those tears will not mean squat.

This has become aboth race and people will just vote for her becasue of her being white.

Mike your model is not applicable because Obama isn't going to run against Hillary in November, he is going to run against McCain.

Besides, Hillary has already told us all on national televsion that Obama can beat McCain. So I think the electability argument is officially off the table.

I'm waiting to see if the Democrats can follow their own rules. If not, why bother?
The Democratic party intentionally set up the Superdelegate system to overrule it's rank & file members.
As long as Clinton and Obama continue to have close wins for the remainder of the primary season, neither one will be able to claim 2025 pledged delegates without the help of superdelegates.
Superdelegates are free to change their minds up until the official vote is taken at the convention. Let the season play out – follow the rules – see what happens.
Speculation at this point is futile!

If nothing else, the superdelegates should be able to announce how they will be resolving debates such as how we should determine the popular vote tally. We have such a quagmire at this point that both candidates are claiming to have the popular vote lead. Of course, Senator Clinton's math is rather dubious and questionable, but for the DNC and the superdelegates in general to stay silent on this issue just enables her to do this, and it puts the whole system in question. How can we feel confident in a fair election if we don't have a clear cut system for establishing who is winning?

CNN caters to the Obama bloggers- even though their posts are vile and viscious and hateful.

They are hoping to create the illusion that Obama has the support.

Why then is he only at 50%

I feel Florida vote's should be counted.listen to our message. CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON

suzan you need to give up...you re not helping hillary with your arguments based on nothing but fanatism.

Some people here are trying to make up there mind and you're not helping...

Obama did not Slam or insulte people in PA and hillary does not have the experience she claims to have. All is claimed as her experience happens to be false or failed.

AND SHE IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE.

She is making the democratic party look bad, she is deviding democrats in favor of mccain...all she cares about is herself. She is so heartless that she has to read her speeches to make sure she does not uncover herself. She cannot speak with her heart. so pls stop it.
If Obama was as heartless as her, he'd let people know that JEREMIAH WRITE was actually the pastor the clinton's called for counselling, into the white house, when they had marital issues over the lewinsky scandal.

BE honest, be fair or keep it shut

wolf,the democrat super delagates had better vote for the person who has the most votes comming into the convention,if they don't they will split the party and insure the republican victory in november which would be a disaster

Cnn refuses to post any comment that is anti- Obama.

Obama lost my vote when he brushed Hillary off his smug shoulders.

Me and 14 million Hillary supporters found his antics childish, immature and not worthy of the white house.

We will not vote for this arrogant, cocky elitist.

Enough already. 21 "debates" over a year of "campaigning" and 41 primaries and caucusses. Time for the superdelegates to declare their preference, SOON!!! Within the next 2 weeks and stop the negativity.
Their entitled to a vote, so vote now. Or else the party will devolve into negative emotions and fail

MIKE: These are primaries............. were you educated....... give Hillary all the states she has won in the primarys can she win the general without the states Obama has won....................... I'm just saying all states matter all people (voters) matter not just the blue collar working white voters if that group only voted for her in the general would she win???? because at this rate no one else would vote for her You people have no common sense........give her all her stattes and blue collars and she is still a looser

GO HOME HILLARY ROTTEN CLINTON!!!!

CLINTON IS A LIAR

AMERICAN PEOPLE WAKE UP AND VOTE SMART IN 2008

DOWN WITH THE CLINTONS

desperate hillary she thought she was going to have a cake-walk into the whitehouse surprise surprise

OBAMA 2008 VOTE SMART VOTE OBAMA in 2008!!!!

Wolf,

If the DNC is to win and win big, as well as make a world wide statement they better look beyond those proven historical states. Granted Obama did not win OH and PA; however he did win over all in TX and other large states. The Main point is he also carried by wide margins many states normally considered Republican states, which is critical to the democratic party. Could Obama win in OH, PA, MI, and FL? Yes, Democrats in this country are NOT ready to hand the election to another Republican, especially one that supports and mirrors a very large majority of the Bush ideas and ideals. Those that say they will not vote for one or the other are for the most part venting in they are showing their frustration with this whole nomination process.

The experience myth

Barack has more experience than Abraham Lincoln when he became President. One might ask experience at what? With experience comes increased indebtedness to lobbyists, increased numbers of political favors that must be repaid, increased numbers of rivalries, and no chance at a honeymoon period after election. Experience how? Eight years versus a couple in the Senate? That doesn't mean much. Think carefully what experience means.

As for winning big states-this is meaningless when your opponent is also a Democrat. Barack and Hillary won't be running against each other in the general election. The margins don't mean much folks.

Superdelegates should wait. This is how one gets political capital and favors in Washington–the currency of exchange among politicians. If you think politicians act in the best interest of their country, you are sucking dreamsicles. They are beholden only to their immediate constitutents and those that donate to their campaigns.

Wolf,
it's been crunch time months ago. I think if Sen. Clinton and Sen Obama was not raising so much money, this would have been over when they looked at the fact that Clinton can not caught up with Obama. Therefore, the party should have rallied behind him in full support before the entire Democratic party is destoryed forever.

People crack me up with who won the battle ground states. Is there anyone using their brain, there are two democratic candidates one will when and one will lose. It doesn't matter who won what state it is all about the delegates when it comes down to the Democratic nominee. Both of them have had more votes cast for each other than two or three of the republicans combined in the same state. But it is false to claim that just because someone won the large states that they will do it in a general election and it doesn't mean that the loser can't win in the general election either. Look at the total number of votes cast for the Democrats and compare that to those cast for the Republicans. That tells me that no matter which the candidate is that unless more republicans show up at the polls then it looks like there may be a Democratic President.

H-R-C

Hiding(facts)- Ripping (the Democratic party)- Clawing (Obama and anyone else that comes between her and the Presidency)

Supers please decide quickly and offer deliverance from this madness!!!

Time, especially after the PA results, to take the blinders off.
Obama cannot win. Too many anti-American skeletons in his closet.

If these so-called Superdelegates have the best interests of their party and country at heart, the only viable choice is Hillary.
If something else is motivating most of them, then Barack is the Dem nominee and the Reps will win by a landslide in November.

Some of you people kill me about states Hillary won and that we need them for the general election...

Just like Indiana – Indiana is a red-state – so please stop trying to compare Indiana to Ohio or Penn.

You need to look at the fact that Hillary and Obama are both democrats!

The other issue is 90% of the people don't vote in primaries –
You act like the whole states are voting at this time which is not true!

Hillary lost this race prior to Ohio – Obama won 10 states – Hillary had zero! So – where were you Hillary supporters then? Also – the media is full of crap trying to break down the blue collar, the whites...
Look at the states that Obama won – states like Iowa.

So please – stop with the bs. Hillary needs to leave! It's over and also – look at how many delegates Obama has since Feb!

When Obama was so arrogant and cocky and dismissive to brush Hillary Clinton off his shoulders... he appealed to the Nation's children.

But to the adults he came across as NOT presidential. Those who laughed, will vote for him.

He lost my vote- brushed me right off along with Hillary.

The rest of America wil NEVER ever vote for such a boastful elitist.

Who is the right person to be our president? The person who says, "Pledged delegates can and should change their mind", translating, "people's vote/will doesn't count, pick me"? I will be ashamed to have her as my president. Wont you?

Wolf-
Quit pushing the clinton spin..like important states , electoral vote , and etc. You are slapping the other states and VOTERS in the face...I know you are a catholic but thought you were a jounalist!
Did someone forget to tell you and hillery that Ohio and PA went republican last time... And she is hated by 50% of democrats!.
As to your FUZZY math- that is another clinton spin...QUIT ALREADY.

GO back to being a reporter and away from political HACK.

Well, I have been an Obama supporter which is neither here nor there.

What I am realizing about myself is that I am truely an independent
and the DNP is really screwed up. If this election comes down to the super delegates making the decision, I'm going for the 100 years of war dispite the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are going to die.

The media is making this about RACE.
The media is making this about Educated vs. Uneducated
I do not care, but my vote will never goi to Hillay aka The anti-christ

I don't see how they can go for Hillary. It is obvious she is out for HERSELF & the personal political power she will get. She wants to have a Clinton Dynasty. She is i believe a CHRONIC LIAR, & has run a HATEFUL, LIEING, DESTRUCTIVE campaign against Barack. it's her own Dem party she has been destroying. Barack has correct judgment, a new vision for America, wants to move our country ahead, we are done with the OLD POLITICS, Hillary is OLD WASHINGTON, & superdels need to follow the will of the people, otherwise why do we bother to vote, if we really don't count in the end.

Hill & Friends–Keep dreaming.

America–Wake up from this Clinton induced nightmare or wake to a Republican reality.

all the old-timers say Obama cannot win in high electoral states in the general...so you think all the Clintonites will run to McCain ..

.wake up people ..

The Clintonites who believe that they are the new House of Windsor in the USA and deserve to be in the WH are in for a shock...

Obama is bring in new voters and the young ones ...people who are excited to vote for a good honest man ....we have the strenght and will continue to mobilise in the fall ....

the old-timers of the by-gone woodstock era can stay at home and sulk or vote for the old man who will sleep at the switch !!

Young people in America will come in droves from every crack in the Union and make a change ...we are taking America from the old timers restoring to the land of hope and freedom for our children to be in a fear free positive world ......

YES WE CAN AND WE SHALL IN THE FALL ....

Go OBAMA , GO CASEY AND THANKS A BUNCH DAVID WU FOR JOINING US ......THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE COMING ON BOARD ....GOD BLESS AMERICA ..LAND OF THE FREE AND FEARLESS

Hillary will lie and tell you anything you want to hear, if that makes you "feel secure". Obama will tell you how much change is going to occur, even though everyone knows that the legislative branch is more or less gridlocked because it is full of people who have sold their souls in the name of self empowerment, self enrichment and a sickness of representative nepotism that won't be changed by some novice moron with a shady background.

Get real people. Your expectations are much too high for either of these candidates. The "Billary" monster knows how to thwart the system to their own personal bidding better than any other political "team". Does that make you sleep well at night.

It'll probably never happen, but I'd sure like to see Americans that support America solidly, despite our differences.

America is an amazing nation that has done, and continues to do, so many benevolent acts for people in other countries. How about this: let's save lots of money by giving ZERO aid to any other country and just look out for ourselves. Want to see the rest of the world crying like babies then?

The Soviet Union was the reason other countrties didn't verbally attack us the way they do now. Now that that big threat has been minimized, the U.S., being the only REAL big boy on the block at this time, is the focus of those who natural human instinct is to bring down the one on top.

If and when a nuclear device explodes in this country, or possibly in Europe, you can kiss the way of life you have come to take for granted goodbye forever. The global financial world will collapse like a deck of cards.

Security for this country is everything.

Sleep Well

Hillary is not campaigning; she is throwing a temper tantrum. She needs to find acceptable ways of expressing her anger.

To those would would count Electoral College votes in April instead of November: I recommend that you "let the people's voices be heard" as you're always yelling!
Fuzzy math is putting it mildly!
Get REAL.

Susan MO – you always sign your posts "Strongely for Hillary" – please, please, please read my post, because I can't stand it anymore.

The word is spelled "STRONGLY!!!" There is no "e."

Thank you.

Obama has tried to smother Hillary's campaign by throwing money at it, and he still lost the last few primaries. Sounds awfully familiar **cough** Bush and Iraq **cough***

I like Obama, but look at the facts, he cannot close the deal and he is having a really hard time with the blue collar votes. Put Obama, an extreme liberal, up against McCain, a moderate republican and the democrats will probably lose. Obama says he can get the independent voters, but the they look down the middle, not one side or the other. To fight a moderate republican you will need a moderate democrat. And as previous people mentioned, it doesnt matter who has won what states in the primary, look at who will win what states in the GENERAL election.

Ive said before and I will say it again, whoever won Ohio, and PA will become our nominee because with a falling economy, it will be the states in that demographic that will take precedence.

Clinton is causing serious problems for Democrats. If she is allowed to be the nominee, McCain will beat her hands down. If the Democrats do not want to weep from the left side of their eyes in November, they should let Clinton go home in peace.She has divided Democrat, she lied about her experience, and has been running negative adverts. The only good thing I have seen from Clinton is the she had a snipper shot on her while Bosnian were reading welcome address for her. If Clinton forgot that no one shot her in Bosnia, she will forget so many things in the White House.

Barack Obama has won some big states. Missouri, Colorado, Georgia, Virginia, Illinois and he is seriously ahead in North Carolina. He can carry big swing states and can win the general election. Hillary said that in the debate. So let's get that silliness behind us.

What can keep the dems out of the White House is two things: a prolonged negative campaign that obliterates the truly positive things these candidates are bringing to the table and/or each side's supporters pulling a "Nader" if their candidate is the loser.

Super Delegates, let Barack and Hillary know: if you think you can win the nomination by ripping up the party, YOU ARE WRONG!

You know, I want to put something to rest.

There are a lot of postings on these comment blogs that bring up the Paul v Clinton trial.

That is a CIVIL case. Paul is a crook. He now feels cheated because he held fundraisers for Hillary and didn't get anything in return. Hillary even gave back the funds he contributed.

Peter Paul went so far as to produce an anti-Hillary movie as political propaganda. It seems to be working on some folks.

There was a criminal investigation of the Clintons surronding Paul, however no wrong doing was ever found. Peter Paul then brought up this civil case against Bill Clinton.

You can read about this yourself on Wikipedia. Just type Peter Paul.

Please stop bringing up this CIVIL case and saying it's a criminal case. Paul v Clinton is nothing compared to the criminal trial against Obama's buddy, Rezko. You can look him up too – Tony Rezko.

Where are the visable results of Obama raising and spending so much money?

All the people who attend his rallies.

All the rock and rap videos singing his praises.

All the celebrities piling on the bandwagon.

And he can not close the deal. If he is the nominee, he'll still lose in Nov.

Poeple do not love a hypocritical cheater who gloats and struts and mocks and jeers his opponent.

It is plain to see. WHO would the WORLD trust?

Then look at whos trustworthy numbers are the lowest.

But I muddy the waters with facts again....sorry

Wolf, you sound as though you believe just because Hillary won PA and Ohio in the primary that Obama cannot win those states in the general election. I thought you could see further down the road than that! Give Obama a break! What says Obama won't win PA and Ohio by a bigger margin over John McCain that Hillary won over him. However, it doesn't help Obama with you going over and over the same old stuff about Hillary winning PA and Ohio as though Obama does not have a chance to win those states in the general election..

Hillary won California, but the latest poll shows Obama winning bigger then Hillary when both are against MCain. Same with NY now.

That's why the electoral count extrapolated to the general election is not applicable. and besides, the more Obama is known, the more people grasp what he is about. It's true some people aren't voting for him because he is black, but I have no doubt his candidacy will be a powerful wake up call for change. Let's not lose hope on the american people

You can't compare the general election to the primaries. Primaries are interparty elections. Die hard democrats that voted for Hillary in the primary, will vote for Obama in the fall, unless they are just racists that haven't moved into the 21st century yet. Independents will vote for Obama. Many republicans, like me, will vote for Obama. If the DNC steals the nomination away from Obama, I will vote republican again. I could not vote for Clinton because she is not trustworthy and will stop at nothing to get into the whitehouse. I simple can not understand how over 60% of the voters in Pennsylvania find Clinton to be untrustworthy, yet many of them voted for her anyway....that does not say much for the integrity of those voters.

Comparison of the three candidates

As now, Americans are stuck with three candidates. How do we screen the candidates? Here are the things we need to know:

1. Age and Health:
McCain is too old (71 now) and in remission from skin cancer. The other two candidates do not seem have these problems.

2. Character, Wisdom, and Conviction
The future of this nation depends on the character, wisdom, and conviction of our next president. This is the most important factor to evaluate a candidate. Any person who is not wise enough to understand that our nation has deteriorated in the past few years because of the Iraq war does not deserve to be our next president. Same rule applies to any person who has unacceptable personality frauds or has an agenda that is not totally American.

McCain is an honorable veteran and respected senator. However, he is too stubborn and too committed to the Iraq (or may-be Iran) war. Obama is an inspiring speaker to some, but slippery and without substance to others. He is the most unknown among the three candidates in this area. Yet, we have already known many things that can handicap him in the general election and in the presidency: for example, his dealings with the indicted Chicago land dealer; his relationship with Rev Wright.; his wife’s stand on races and America; and his smoking and drug history. There is also some doubt if he is totally color blind in dealing with racial issues. Hillary has been in the public light for more than 30 years. She has built some resistance from the public, particularly from the media. However, she is an optimistic and smart person with a resilient strength to overcome difficulties. The most amazing thing is her uninhibited conviction to restore American strength and to lift up the poor and weak regardless of races.

3. Electability:
Obama can win the nomination, but not the general electron. The 2008 general election, using the 2004 presidential election results as a reference, will essentially be divided between the “red” and “blue” states. The advantages that Obama had with the black voters and the caucus process can disappear easily in those “red” states in the general election. When weighing in different voters compositions (races and genders) and the general perception about the candidates, Obama may lose one or two of big blue states such as CA, NY and PA, besides Ohio. Where can he find the electro-votes to win?

Hillary has been able to capture most of the blue states in the primary, despite strong completions from Obama. If she is the democratic candidate, she has a very good chance to keep all the blue states in the camp, besides being favored in Ohio and Arkansas, and possibly FL.

Super-delegates WILL NOT overturn the person who won. And the metric used by the DNC to determine who won is pledged delegates.

The "math" the superdelegates–whose purpose is to prevent another McGovern-like blowout–have to consider isn't just the total vote cast but who cast it, who's likely to vote again in November for the Democratic nominee, and who's likely instead to stay home or, worse, vote for the Republican nominee. So while exit polls may not be the most precise of indicators, they are what's there to work with. And the superdelegates should be giving that data a good hard look in addition to the overall vote counts and "states won."

My take on what's there is that Hillary Clinton has a better shot at winning the general than Barack Obama has. And that's how I'm going to vote when my turn comes up in Oregon.

WOLF, IAM WATCHING TO SEE WHAT THE SUPERDELGATES WILL DO IF PANTSUIT HILLARY WALKS AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION I WILL GO INDEPENDENT . SHE HAS RUINED THE DEMCRATIC PARTY

Well Mike, its nice to live in an IDEAL world isn't it?

Hillary supporters identify with her devisive "attack" at all cost attitude. Precisely, the kind of neo-conservative idealogy that got the US into a war in IRAQ.

America needs a president that can restore her image in the world, and lead the country at a time of high anxiety.

Not a "kill for bear" president that Clinton would be. In fact, she's no better than the current occupant, and Democrats will find their house and senat e majorities reduced in the Novemeber elections.

I was for Hillary but since penn.I dont trust her she is deceitful if she gets the nomination I will have to change parties or not vote
.I trust McCain more than her and will encourage my friends to do likewise

To: Fla for Obama

What didn't you get pal, Fla did vote and Hillary won.

Both names were on the ballot, neither campaigned in Fl,but

Hillary won. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT>

Democrats, start uniting!!! Hillary supporters take a sip of the bitter cup and understand that your money helps her campaign. She is running out of money because of poor mangement. She is losing because of a poor strategy. She can run...I encourage her to run, but she is going to lose Indiana. She is trailing in the polls and she has yet to ba able to come from behind and win a state from Obama.

The knock out punch is coming, she is running out of money, she is desparately doing everything she can to win. She has run the good race. There is no shame in accepting defeat. Do what you need to do, and even stay in if you can afford it all the way to June. But do the right thing and win the punch comes in two weeks, start building gridges again.

Obama is a great candidate, and is a whole lot better than McCain. It is great that you support Hillary, and as Hillary has stated....they agree 95% of the time. Are you really not going to vote? Are you really going to vote for 4 more years of Republican mismanagement? Hillary has admitted that Obama is the better choice! Promote the positives and the progressive ideas to lead us in the next four to eight years! Yes We Can (Obama) and Yes We Will (Clinton). Go Democrats for 2008!

How can Deval Patrick say all peoples votes count, with a straight face? Baracks operatives steamrolled the effort for a revote in Michigan! Why isn't that reported??? Does he actually think Michigan and Florida are going to rally around him when he has stifled our vote? I think Barack is in for a huge sucker-punch from these two states–just like he has done to us! Don't expect any Kumbaya moments from us–we don't count (UNTIL NOVEMBER)!

If you want to win- win with integrity and grace, not with a "name recognition." There is no way, not even Bill, can bring back the Internet wealth of the 90's (not without Al Gore). I guess today, Gore is laughing at dumb supporters of Hillary. Pleas tell me– why have majority of those who served during the Clinton years decided to go with Obama? Do your "home-work" bird-brain people!!!

How can Obama NOT win the nomination?
He has been given all the advantages:
Celebrity support
Media bias and adoration
Free airtime to give lofty speeches
DNC fixed primaries in his favor
Flawed caucus format to magnify his support and appeal
Throwing away Hillary wins in Fl and Mi
20 debates biased in his favor.
Willingness to play the race card to discourage personal scrutiny
Now super delegates forgetting their true role and propping him up.

And still he's got 50%- only.

And dammit – count FL and MI!!!!! They are American citizens too!!

since republicans do not vote in democratic primaries, we do not know how many would switch parties in the general for either democratic nominee. since democrats pick between two democratic candidates, we do not know who would not vote democratic in the general if their primary pick lost. these numbers might not be material, but if not, i am wondering why i am not hearing anyone address them.

EVERYBODY IS MAD THAT OBAMA DOSENT WEAR A U.S. PIN LOOK AT BUSH HE WEARS ONE AND HE STILL SUCKS AS A PRESIDENT. ALSO EVERYONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT REV WRIGHT HAVE PEOPLE EVER WANDER HOW MANY KKK MEMBERS HAVE DONATED TO THE CLINTONS AND MCCAIN. AMERICA IS NOT READY FOR A BLACK PRESIDENT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE ALOT OF OLD FOOLS WHO WANT LET IT HAPPEN HINT PA. JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS WE KEEP CHANGING THE RULES SO THAT THE BLACK PEOPLE CANT WILL. NOW I HOPE WHITE AMERICA CAN SEE WE ARE WINNIG THE MOST STATES, DELGATES AND POPULAR VOTE AND STILL THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. WHY SHOULD WE COUNT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN IT DOSENT MATTER.

Wolf,

Since Billary was the former first lady for Arkansas for sixteen years, the former first lady of these United States for eight and in her second term as the Senator of New York, my question to you is why hasn't and can't she close out Obama? Prior to 2004, who had heard of Obama?

I won't take credit for this but I read a very interesting question on another site:
If Obama has it all sewn up and "won".....why doesn't he just quit campaigning ?
Everyone's screaming for Hillary to quit....when she is the one who has proven she is not a quitter....and he's the one who "won" it already yet he won't debate. I'm pretty confused by his behavior I guess.

Count Florida and Michigan, look at the electoral map and if we want a Democrat in the White House Hillary is our candidate.

Only the Super Delegates can knock sense into Hillary.....lets go vote her out!

To be honest Wolf...

I do not know how anyone can say that this is a fair and accurate contest... Two major states violated the rules and will not be counted... Obama claims that he should be the nominee because it will be against the will of the people if the superdelegates vote for Clinton... the problem with that scenario is that two states did not count so the will of the people is not truely represented... Clinton says to look at the electoral college... well she has a point as well but no one is sure whether or not they will support Obama as well in November... then you through in some of the superdelegates that have went against the voters in their state... that includes Kerry, Richardson, and many others... once again hurting Obama's case regarding the will of the people... who wins???

It sure looks like no one... I would not want to be wrong if whomever the nominee ends up being... especially if they lose in November!!!

If I were a superdelegate I would vote for who I think is most likely going to win in November... then beg the other to be the VP!!!

I am a woman and would recommend to the superdelegates to support Hillary. She reaches white males and the middle of the road voters.

I think they can't look at the beginning of the primary voters. None of the issues about Obama were evident.

Now that they have a better picture of Obama I think they should be asking who could beat McCain.

There is no way that Obama could beat McCain. He has too many negatives and is basically not proving himself by the last biggest primary.

He has Reverend Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko and William Ayers surrounding his name.
He has a father with Muslim ties.
He has been called an "elitist" by the Republicans
He can't reach the "middle of the road" Democrats.

There is no way he can win. If the Democrats knew what they know now, they would never have voted for him.

Hillary won the larger states due to her being a caucasian woman and taking the majority of votes from rural areas. A lot of older caucasian people still cling to their racial values that they were taught in the late 50's and early 60's and if presented with a choice of a Democatic caucasian they will go with the person they've been taught to be a better race which is a total myth.

They will accept Hillary's lies and deceit just because she's caucasian.

Obama won with forward thinking educated, younger people that will vote for years to come. You can't say that for Hillary supporters.

In the general election they will join Obama or suffer the consequences of a Republican Administration, period.

Obama 08

I hope all the Clinton supporters are paying attention to her behavior. Just pay attention to what she is saying and doing. Would you want the President of the United States to outright lie to you like Hillary did yesterday? Yesterday Hillary said she is ahead in the popular vote. THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE, because the Mi. and Fla. votes do not count, never have counted and had better not ever count. If they ever count, then we'll have more than a lying Presidential Candidate, we'll have a lying Democratic Party.

Aside, from that, we do not need the CLINTONS RUNNING UP BILLS AND HOPING TO GET ELECTED SO THE TAX PAYERS CAN PAY FOR THEIR SCREWED UP CAMPAIGN. They are not paying their bills during this campaign and that speaks more volumes than anything else. What do you Hillary supporters think of people who don't pay their bills?

I am from Ohio but I am very disappointed in my Democratic governor Ted Strickland. If he thinks all "older" "white" "women" are Hillary supporters, he is way off base. My democratic friends and I are all Barack Obama supporters and as a consequence of his actions in this primary, I will not vote for him next time he runs.

At first Hillary was slammed, mercilessly for playing a 'strategy game' to get the nomination. She stayed cool and stuck to her guns. Now, people are waking up and saying " Oh my...we need these states that she won to get a Democrat elected...and Obama is doing poorly with the coalitions that voted in them.

He says we should elect a president based not on experience but judgement and the ability to bring people together....I agree.

Hi Wolf,

Thanks for all the great election coverage. While Hillary implores superdelegates to disregard Obama's current lead in delegates, her only real hope is to use Bill's backroom connections to many of the congressmen, governors, etc. who comprise the superdelegates.

By nature, superdelegates are long-standing political figures with whom Bill Clinton would surely have interacted over the past fifteen to twenty years. These relationships are Hillary's only remaining card heading down the road to the convention.

Also, I hope you don't mind me dropping in a brief plug here... I am so interested in the election coverage that, as a comedy writer, I'v spoofed a few '3rd Party Candidates' on my website. If you'd like a break from the skulduggery of the campaign trails and want a chuckle, take a look. It's at http://www.BrevityTV.com.

Cheers and thanks again, Wolf.

Barry

If the delegates are not willing to stake a position now, I would hope the undecided's would band together and say they will not cast a vote for either candidate, unless the two work out a deal. I believe that together, Clinton and Obama would be a tremendous and unstoppable force. Since Clinton is more versed on policy and has quite a bit more experience, I would suggest she be at the top of the ticket with Obama as VP. This is a ticket I would fully support. It allows them both to bring their supporters together and unify the party. I hate to say it, being a proud and true "D," but if Obama gets the nod as the nominee – he will not be able to count on my vote.

Clinton – or – Clinton/Obama 2008

What most people don't understand is that the traditional democratic states: NY, Cali, IL and others will go Democratic no matter who the nominee is. If I was running as a Democratic I would beat McCain in these states.

So then it comes down to "Swing States" What many have failed to realize is that McCain is not a strong conservative or republican, and in this election Obama has created many more "swing" states including MO, LA, etc. Obama can compete in these states due to his overwhelming support from African Americans. Hillary unfortunately cannot.

Lastly if anyone thinks that Obama will have a problem with McCain in places swing states like Ohio, PA, etc look at the number of people that have been voting in each state during the Democratic and Republican Primaries. In Ohio for example Obama got 2nd place and still had more than 300 thousand votes more than McCain who WON his primary. No matter what, there are more people voting democratic this year because of Bush's failed policies and places like Ohio and PA will not be close.

If you gave Obama only 33% of Clinton's votes in Ohio and ALL of the republican votes to McCain, Obama would still beat McCain by over 375 thousand. It's not close at all, and Ohio is a "Swing" State"

These super delagates that going for Obama, I hope they don't have
to eat crow if he is elected.

God Help Us if he is elected.

I'd just like to say I plan on voting Democrat in November. I realize this isn't the LOUDLY PROCLAIMED opinion, but I'd like to remind you all that it's the majority opinion.

We need to stop listening to the extremist Obama or Hillary supporters who scream in defiance of "their" candidate not being chosen and remember that we're all democrats and WILL vote for the candidate who receives the most votes in the democratic nomination process.

And if we all vote for our party's nominee, then a democrat will be in the white house in January.

But to those of you who say "if my candidate doesn't get the nominee then I'll vote for McCain", please just turn in your american citizenship now and get out. You don't get to demand that the majority of the nation go your way. Part of democracy means that you don't get to always get what you want, but that the majority rules.

Read that again, please. "THE MAJORITY RULES."

Not just the few people who scream the loudest.

Let's take our country back. All of us.

These are not the most important questions if you are a Democrat. A very shallow analysis as usual Wolf!
The most important question is: If Obama wins the legitimate popular vote, the pledged delegate count, the most states, new states for the Democrats to win, registers new Democratic voters, attracts a new youth vote to the party, attracts swing voters and carries 80+% of the black vote, will there be a Democratic Party left if Hillary is anoited as the nominee over Obama by the Superdelegates???

Wolf bottom line the superdelegates should look at who won the electoral states or the Dems. don't have a chance in Nov. Most of the states Obama is claiming victory to will go Republican in the fall when they all come out in droves to vote.

I'd rather not vote than put someone in the Whitehouse that I do not trust. Therefore, Hillary will never have my support. I don't trust her at all and I don't see how anyone could.

The only experience Hillary has is telling lies and being around people with politcal experience. She votes yes to Iraq, yes to NAFTA, and has been working on Healthcare for 15+ years (and nothing has happened). How can you expect anything good to be done by her in 4 years if nothing has happened in 15 years?

END THE DRAMA VOTE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!

Obama lost my vote forever, when he played the race card in SC.

Clinton is causing serious problems for Democrats. If she is allowed to be the nominee, McCain will beat her hands down. If the Democrats do not want to weep from the left side of their eyes in November, they should let Clinton go home in peace.She has divided Democrat, she lied about her experience, and has been running negative adverts. The only good thing I have seen from Clinton is the she had a snipper when others were laughing. If Clinton forgot that no one shot her in Bosnia, she will forget so many things in the White House.

If the DNC delgate rules were winner take all, this would not be an issue. Hillary would be the nominee now and campaigning against McCain. Pelosi says their vote should reflect the will of the people, what happened to Richardson who endorsed Obama when NM was won by Hillary, same goes for the Gov of Oklahoma. They all seem confused and not on the same page. What a mess!
Just a thought from an uneducated, blue collar catholic over 40 year old woman.

Hillary or McCain 08

The pro-Obama bloggers have been so hateful and nasty. Vulgar and name-calling. Insulting and demeaning to other voters.

Speaks volumes about the Candidate they support.

A cocky, boastful, jeering, schoolboy trying to demean others to build himself up.

We've already had Bush show us that.

No to Obama.

To: Judy Green and Matt

There is no way that a woman will ever be elected to the United States Presidency. Thats just a fact! Even if she gets the nomination by some miracle. She will definiatley loose in November. The citizens of America are not ready for a woman President.

All of this Hillary Clinton hype is just hot air. And after the superdelegates weigh in and finally bring this stuff to an end, the better. No matter how you try to spin it to her advantage, Senator Clinton is behind in the Polpular Vote and Delegate count. And she will soon be behind in Superdelagates as well.

People need to wake up and realize that Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton and the 1990's are over with and done. They are not coming back.

OBAMA 08

If the Super delegates "Give" this election to Hillary....it will be just like when the Supreme Court "Gave" the 2000 vote to Bush.

That was a "Selection" not an "Election." And this will be one, too.

While a vigorous debate could be held over the merits of choosing delegates by means of a primary election vs. a caucus (and there are clearly some very valid arguments for each), this is nonetheless an irrelevant issue at present. The entire DNC, including members of Senator Clinton’s team, helped to craft the present system and agreed to abide by it many months ago. Yet, we continue to hear Senator Clinton argue that the Popular Vote is what ultimately matters most. To illustrate the utter fallacy of this argument, consider two states – Colorado and Oklahoma – which have nearly identical voting populations, delegates from one state chosen by a primary election, delegates from the other by a caucus.

In Oklahoma’s primary, Clinton gained 10 delegates over Obama by virtue of a 23.6% victory and 98,350 net votes.

In Colorado’s caucus, Obama gained 15 delegates over Clinton by virtue of a 34.2% victory, but only netted 41,274 votes, well less than half of what Clinton earned in Oklahoma’s closer race.

In the caucuses of Washington and Minnesota, states much larger than Colorado and Oklahoma, Obama comfortably won by more than a 2-1 margin. In fact, of the 17 caucuses held thus far, Senator Clinton has only won the delegate count (by 1) in American Samoa.

the super-delegates should also consider who has lied the most?, Clintons. who is more dis-honest?, Clintons. who will say anything, do anything, rubbish a fellow democrat?, Clintons.

Who thinks that the American people wants the Lincoln bedroom to be rented out to campaign contributors for overnight stays?, Clintons.

After all of these questions are answered, the choice for the superdelegates is clear, Barack Obama is the nominee and will be elected in november.

GOP HAS STARTED PROBING OBAMA AND HIS WIFE MICHELLE
ABOUT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM.
GOP STRATEGISTS AS THEY PROVED WITH KARL ROVE , ARE VERY THOROUGH . THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED PROBING ADS AGAINST OBAMA, EVEN THOUGH MCCAIN "DISAPPROVES"OF THE ATTACKS. OBAMA HAS MADE TOO MANY MISTAKES IN ADDITION TO HIS PASTOR PROBLEM. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
SIGN OF THE DIRECTION OF THE ELECTORATE IS THE PENNSYLVAIA VOTE. JUST TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE STATISTICS AND THE CROSS SECTION OF THE PENNSYLVAINIA VOTERS. HILLARY CUT THROUGH ACROSS ALL THE LINES
OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGAPHICS.. (note 92 % OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS VOTED FOR OBAMA) AND HE STILL LOST!!! GO FIGURE IT OUT.

Its obvious you all know nothing about the will of the people...and can Hillary win the election if only the big states vote for her???? so why on earth would this be an argument ... if she can pick up his states in the general he can do the same voters are not stupid they know whats at stake....... no one really wants a pres that her husband disgraced the nation we are just waiting for it to come up...they are disgusting.......Obama has won the nomination and you all need to stop this nonsense....... we are smarter than you all...this is the 21st century stop living in the past.....believe me the DNC is not going to loose millions of voters (for life) over the nasty Clintons (I did not have sex with that woman) Hillary beside him.... I was under sniper fire in Bosina see the resemblance we dont want this please humor me is it because she is white and she wants to take out revenge on you all for what you did to them when Bill was in the white house having sex with an intern!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the madness already!!!!! they are pathetic

Watching the Situation Room is getting painfull. Nothing on Iraq? Nothing on Israel/Palestine talks? Nothing on Israel bombing Syria's reactor? Nothing on the GI Bill? Yet you do a story of "maybe" race had something to do with Pennsylvania, or "maybe" it was the bitter comments, even though you have nothing but speculation to support that. The public would be better served hearing stories that are important that can be backed up by facts. What happened to US journalism?

The supes should be blamed for this contracted affair. Why can't they make up their minds?

SUCH an easy decision. It has to be Obama at this stage –

simply because you can't choose the person with fewer pledged delegates, less of the popular vote, and fewer states won.

I think some supes are JEALOUS because Obama hasn't been groomed for this position and he should 'wait his turn'.

Wolf – you and the media and the Clintons know it's time for Hillary to pack it up and take her lunch because her numbers not crunch!

Hillary needed to win Penn-State by 65% and not 9%!

The Gov. of Penn and the Gov. of New Jersey – told Hillary and the news media that Hillary needed to win BIG not slim!

Also – she would need to win the rest of this race by 68% -
Plus – she is broke!

Obama had this wrapped up prior to Ohio when he won 10 states and Hillary won NONE!

If the shoe was on the other foot – what do you think Hillary and her supporters would require Obama to do?

It's over for Hillary and has been for some time!

SUPER DELIGATES SHOULD GO FOR REALITY NOT FANTASY. HRC HAS A TRACK RECORD, KNOW HOW , AND IS OUR BEST CANIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. O.B. HAS NOTHING BUT A SMOOTH SPEECH AND SOME CHURCH COMMUNITY SERVICE. WOW. HE IS SUCH A GREENHORN. O.B. HAS A CLOSED BOOK OF LIFE. HRC HAS OPENED HER LIFE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD . I HOPE THEY GO FOR THE BEST QUALIFIED CANIDATE. THIS IS OUR COUNTRIE'S LIVES THEIR PUTTING IN THEIR HANDS. O.B. IS NOT READY . HE NEEDS 8 MORE YRS. AND SHOW SOME KIND OF A TRACK RECORD THAT HE HAS HELPED OUR COUNTRY. HIS FIRST TIME TO GO WHERE HE WAS WANTED ,HE TURNED AWAY FROM. THAT WAS NEW ORLEANS. HRC DIDNT HESITATE, AND SHE WAS BEHIND IN THIS RACE. I HOPE THE DELIGATES THINK ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS. GO HRC.

The real question is, are the reasons to not vote for Obama worth putting Hillary in office? I think its a given that everyone likes Obama more.

The hateful, nasty, insulting Obama supporters ruined it for their candidate.

They took voters willing to vote for Obama- to staunch NEVER Obama, voters.

That is the price to pay when you denigrate and disrespect your fellow Americans and fellow democrats.

Alienating the very people whose votes you need in Nov to secure a win.

Obama supporters are allegedly "educated"- but we'll see how smart their strategy of hate and intimidation is, come Nov.

I agree with all of the bloggers who wish it would just be over. If HRC wins I am going to vote for her. To me it's more important that this thing is over and we take the whitehouse back. Like a month ago.

BigSexy1975 for Obama

Strange!
They say that Obama lacks experience but Bush had 4 years of experience as President and he blew it.
People said that Obama slammed the people of Pennsylvania, but did he really? Or he just told something that it is a reality and people of Pennsylvania is not willing to accept ? Maybe they like the sniper story better, or the Colombia trade better.
They also said that Hillary got a lot of money after winning PA, maybe now she will be able to pay her debts! So much for the one who is going to fix our economy and cannot even fix hers!
Hillary is the one offending the American people with her lies and her negative attitude.

Traditional democratic states like California and New York will vote Democratic whether Hillary or Obama (or even me) is the candidate. Margin of victory does not matter in a general election – It doesn't matter whether California and New York are won 80%-20% (which Hillary thinks she could do) or 51%-49% (which Obama could most certainly do). A win is still a win. These states need to be taken out of Clinton's "formula". With those states in Obamas camp (versus McCain), he does have a better chance than Hillary.

To all HillBillies out there:

Hillary has won the big states by winning the traditional republican districts in the individual states. Those districts will return to the Republican fold at the general election.

Hillary has lost all the "big states" in the districts where democrats do best. Think about it.

New news coming out? Obama-odinga-rezko-ayers-auchi-saddam hussein scary stuff going around on you tube, Obama is not FOR the U.S.

By numbers, Obama will have earned it based on primary wins he received before people started finding out the less attractive details about him. However, with what we know now, and keep on learning more, if he is the Dem candidate, we might as well hand over the presidency to McCain.

The super delegates should go with their gut, which probably says put Mrs. Clinton in and accept the fallout from Obama fans (yes, fans). If Obama wins the rest of the primaries, or at least most of them, my opinion would change and I would support their appointing Obama, even though I believe, and probably so do the super dels, that he probably can't beat McCain. He's too inexperienced. Hillary is the only good choice, and I'm not anti-Obama. I supported him before the truth started coming out.

I sincerely fear more Bush policy for the next four years. America needs to start repairing its tattered global reputation and start giving back people their civil rights. McCain will not do either.

Of course the Republicans have waited for years to have their revenege on the Clintons! Thye so want Hillary that it is sad to see the democrats cry to put Hillary out there; I mean "an impeached presidentail family." This is where the Republicans left off (impeachments, lies etc), and it there that they will pick up. So, give Hillary the nomination and let us see!

If you are a Hillary supporter tell me why if she is so experienced and ready on day 1 and all the other things she says she does better than Obama why can't she close the deal? She says she is the one who can beat John McCain in November,really than why hasn't she beat Obama yet? These are easy questions. She will just lie about things that is why I don't trust her.

Wolfe, why are we still using the electoral college? The electoral college has outlived its usefullness long ago. Why doesn't my vote really count...I don't need someone to vote for me. Those days went out many years ago. I believe the electoral college is a big waste of my tax dollars, particularly when the college doesn't really reflect my views.

Mike

Wolf, quit pretending you're impartial and just say what we all know. You're a Hillary supporter.

It really made me mad that Larry King did a one-on-one interview with Hillary Clinton the might before the PA primary. I am a big CNN fan and usually watch Larry King Live but I'm boycotting him until he gives Barack Obama an interview the night before a big primary. I fault Larry with Hillary's big win in PA and that was not what a lot of us wanted! And yes, I am a 73 year old white retired woman but no way do I wnat another 4 years of a Clinton white house. I want the kind of chnange Barack inspires in me for my children and grandchildren!

Electoral college math, popular vote, winning the group that matters, Obama does not stand a chance. Hillary is a winner. Obama's youthful supporters should come down to earth. Hillary has to be the nominee for Democrats to win the presidential elections. Emotion of Obama and his supporters is so raw that they throw insults arround. It is sad that both are not willing to work together. Democrats should listen to former Governor Como.
If Hillary is not nominated, it will be a train wreck for the Democrats because Obama does not yet have the experience to make it in the whitehouse

Mike you have a lot of "ifs". You sound like Hillary. Everyone here is a solution. Let Nancy Peloski take Hillary's place. She does have experience, she's not riding on her husbands coattails, she's a white woman and a Dem. Will this work. ANYBODY BUT HILLARY!!!!

I always thought that the reason we vote for a person is becouse we feel that he is the best choice for the position. I keep hearing the same thing over and over again from people on TV. 'It's not as important if the person is qualified but CAN THEY WIN?' No wonder this country is screwed up.

If the Democrats fail to nominate Obama they just lost a leader in life time.Primary is different from general election,if Obama as at today can have more delegates than Clinton a well established political name,then the Dem should know he is their best chance to win in november,And thank Goodness superdelegates are not dummies they know better.
OBAMA 08

I wish the media would talk about the electoral vote. It is clear that Hillary is the hands down winner when you count up the electoral college votes because she has won nearly all of the big states. That is what we should be looking for (more than number of states or super delegates thusfar) because in November it is the electoral votes that count. The Democratic party would be wise to choose Hillary if they want to beat McCain in the general election.

1. If the superdelegates were smart, they would go with the candidate leading in delegates, votes i& states. To go against the will of the voters, would give McCain the presidency

2. for Hillary to win, she would have to win over 70% of the votes in all remaining primaries. Then she have to seat illegal votes From Michigan and Florida without anybody noticing. The fat lady is half way through her song right now for Hillary and Hillary is plugging her ears and humming.

Obama was given the advantage at the start- Oprah, Kerry, the Kennedys and the Shrivers. They wanted to give him a head start.

It worked- for so long.

But the American people are more savvy than the newly registered youth- who were too lazy, too selfish and too indifferent to ever vote before.

We know who the true leader is. We will write Hillary Clinton's name in in NOV if she is not our nominee.

Many of us don't care for the bandwagon approach to elections. Most of us are looking for the best candidate on a fair and level playing field. The DNC corrupted and fixed this primary for their golden boy Obama. It backfired bigtime. Now we are split 50/50. The Hillary democrats will remember the hate, the name-calling, the insults, the strong-arm tactics, the boasting, the gloating, the cocky swaggering, the jeering and the mocking. We will remember in Nov.

More people voted for Al Gore back in 2000, and that's viewed as Bush (or the Supreme Court) robbing him of the Presidency.

If Obama gets the nomination, it will be viewed the same way.

A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain, like it or not. This is a man who doesn't want Michigan and Florida delegates to be counted what an idiot same like Richardson his surrogate. The democratic pary is done if Obama is the nominee

Dear Superdelegates:

Please support Obama. You know in your gut that this man has done all he can to elevate the political discourse in this country to steer us away from negative campaigning and to return the focus back to moving beyond the nation's problems.

You know in your gut that Obama is the one candidate who can get things done in Washington because he can – and IS – bringing people together, inspiring an entire nation to solve its problems together.

No it won't be easy. But he has shown that he is up for the challenge for the past 16 months. He has closed gaps in the polls that no one thought he could close, he has won over voters that no one thought he could win. And he has handled controversies with a dignity, poise, and thoughtfulness so rare in today's politics – when most thought he would crumble. He did not.

He is still standing strong. And the movement continues to grow. Please get behind the candidate who has gotten behind us all.

Obama for America. Yes we can.

Clinton says that she can win the big states, however if she steals this nomination from Obama the Black community will not vote for her. She cannot win a single big state without the Black vote.

It has become very apparent to many in the last week that Barack Obama is not ready to be President. From his constant gaffes to his complaining and going to pieces when asked hard questions during a debate. Sadly, the media's refusing to investigate his background or question is experience earlier in the primary season while gleefully bashing Clinton caused millions of Americans to vote for Obama thinking he was a knight riding in to save the country. Now, they know better and many would change their votes if they could.

The Democratic party will be defeated in November if Obama gets nominated. They must pull Clinton and Obama aside and make him understand that Vice President is the best he is going to get this time around. Then, together he and Clinton had to patch this up. I don't blame Clinton for getting negative, she HAD to vet Obama when the media refused to. She was right, something we learned in PA!

Hillary is winning North Carolina!!!

I would like to remind all the Hillary supporters and Hillary herself, there is a reason we live in a Democracy. We the people of the United States have voted in the majority for Obama. Hillary has not had enough people vote for her or even donate money to her. There will always be HATERS of Obama and they are the minority, to continually listen to their whining brings down the election. There is only one truthful and upfront candidate and he will be the next President of the United States. SuperDelegates have NOT flocked to Hillary out of respect for the former first lady and I am certain she has blackmailed and called in all her cards against them to remain at least neutral. When Bill Richards dared to cross her threats they publicly crucified him. The super delegates need to get over their fear and intimidation by the Clinton's and do the honorable thing for our country.

More people have voted for Hillary Clinton than any other candidate in presidential history.

Michigan & Florida voters WILL count in the general election, so they NEED to be considered in this argument!!!

CLINTON '08

To Judy Green (and those who think like her):

What has Hillary Clinton done to deserve my vote? Obama has, as you say, "spoken from his heart." From what has Senator Clinton spoken, except a calculated political maneuver?

I am searching for any reason people have to support Hillary Rodham Clinton for president. So far, the best I hear is that Obama is not ready or that he's out of touch, though neither of these has been either proven nor tested.

So, Clinton fans, please tell me: Why is Hillary Clinton the better nominee, and why is she the best person for president?

Hillary says she's ahead in popular votes. ANOTHER CLINTON LIE.
Fellow dems, let's not return the White House to the days of renting the Lincoln bedroom, travelgate, Monicagate, Whitewater, missing files, etc. We may be more partisan than in the past, but do we really want to move back into the gutter?

I see two candidates. One with a vision of Hope, who is willing to work for the American people to change the way the government is presently working and the second candidate who is constantly reminding people how the government was run during the 1990's. Which reading between the lines says to me that she will continue to run the government with the same old 1990's policies and politics.

Mike is one of those "idiots" with a bird's brain. Is ther anyone out there, anyone with common sense who believes that Obama will not win the so-called big states? has any one figured in a potentail VP that will make this whole issue of "electoral college" mute? It is a sad day in this nation when people cannot use basic "logic" taught in college!!!

I will vote for Clinton in November or I will not vote at all.

If any Obama supporters read this comment, get the message across to Senator Obama not to accept anymore debates from CNN, MSNBC and ABC, it is a conspiracy of Hillary Clinton's camp and the media to go use it aganist Obama. CNN, especially is helping Hillary Clinton to win the nomination.

OBAMA '08

Thanks Mike for finally showing us Hillary's illogical math. Now we can see why the twisted monkey thinks she has the popular vote.

I agree with Hillary on this: The Superdelegates need to vote their conscience, not neccesarily the way their constituents voted.

They need to step up, and decide who has the ETHICS, the INTEGRITY, the HONESTY to lead America into the future. Who will build the consensus to achieve a better America for all?

Clearly that candidate is Sen. OBAMA.

SUpers: VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE!

Blitzer - stop peddling Clinton support !!!!

PA goes white...NC will follow.

Wolf: This can't be right. You're suggesting that factors other than the pledged delegate count can be taken into account by the Super Delegates? But the Obama folks say that's the only factor that matters. What's that you say? The Obama folks are wrong–the Super Delegates can take into account anything they want, not just pledged delegate totals? That's what the rules say? Interesting. Very interesting.

Memo to Obama campaign: what you folks have been saying about the role of the pledged delegate lead in the Super Delegate selection process is pure hogwash.

Mike- your line of thinking would only work if everyone who voted for Hillary would vote for Mccain in a general election. Howevr, many democrats would be voting for the democratic candidate no matter what. The primary and the general election are not comparable.

Superdelegates can look at all of the above for who would be the best nominee, but what must top off that list is the will of the people and the buck stops there.

Well if the Superdelegates voted today they will vote for Hillary! Sorry to Obama supporters but the superdelegate will decide who they think is the best candiate to beat Mccain.

Shall Pastor Hagee be a superdelegate since he is the authority and belittles Catholics and the dear peoples of India ?

wouldnt the voters in the big states still vote democrat even if hillary aint their nominee?

if they didnt, then they would be very very anti-obama or anti-change/hope, either that or bigotry

if the big states do vote for obama in the general, then what does the electability factor has to do with anything?

Its about time the super delegates come out and support who they want. Rather than still allow Hillary to continue her negative campaigning. It is hurting the party. It is time; people should speak up.

Mike it not too late to go to school.

Hillary's margin of victory in PA. is 9.3 and rounded correctly it goes down to 9 she did not win by double digits.

floridas democratic primary was also tainted .. any one remember where bill was at that time .. he was in florida speaking about his wife .. again the clintons dont follow the rules they decided on they bend them to thier own ficticious fact sheet . i would rather vote in the mayor of south park than the clintons .

I am sick and tired of the Clinton's b/c they're drugging the democratic race like drugging their cat.please give up and give a chance for a new young but talented Obama.

Truly canadian supporter for Obama.

You, the media is now quoting Hillary's claim that she has more popular votes as if that might be true. It is rubbish. This is distorting reality to a huge degree. CNN should not be playing an active role in her campaign to lie to America!!!
Barbara

Wolf, more than 4000 brave men and women haave lost thier lives, and countless of thousands have been injured mentally, physically, and emotionally-all so that Iraqis can vote. It is shameful if the votes in MI & FL are not counted-to what then .....have these brave men and women sacrificed so much. Shame on this country if these votes are not counted, these men and women lost thier lives for WHAT ?????

A good vetting is what senator clinton needs to convince the supers of her electability, how will she stand up to the rebublicans when they bring up monica lewinsky? and other "issues" that plagued the clinton years.

Jack Cafferty brought up a good point,If the super delegates take the nomination away from the candidate that is ahead in every catagory and give it to Hillary there will be he– to pay.I don't think that just because 10% or lessof voters liked her better than him in the so called big states that he cannot take the sure 45% that liked him better and build on that and win these states in the fall.Give it to Hillary and try to see her win without the 90+% black votes.

Barrack Obama is not the right person for our president. He is not in touch with all of the American people. Let’s face it; we are a very diverse nation from different ages to different nationalities. We need a president that can easily connect with all of our people not just the majority of the people. Obama has spoken from his heart. I believe his heart is seeking the truth. He is not comfortable with himself and this has reflected in his speeches and some of the words he chosen.

The right for women to vote is taken for granted today. One day soon it will not matter what nationality we are. Obama and Clinton have both been instrumental in bring the matter of our rights to the forefront.

We need a president that is comfortable with themselves and this will make the American people feel secure.

We sincerely hope Clinton wins.

Why?

She is more experienced
She is for the people
She is a fighter

Why not Obama?

He lacks experience
He slammed the people of Pennsylvania
We do not need a president who insults the Americans.

Strongely for Hillary Now

How can a news website have a lilnk to give donations to Hillary Clinton. That does not seem right, unless you also have a link to give donations to Barack Obama, and also John McCain

Obama's win over Hillary in Missouri (they were separated by less than 1% – it was so close the state was actually called for Hillary at first) is not the same as Hillary's much larger 10% or more wins in PA, OH, NJ, and FL.

Missouri showed that Obama could closely compete with Hillary in a Midwestern state (which borders his home state of Illinois by the way) that we as Dems would like to win.

Hillary's big wins in PA, OH, NJ, and FL show that – despite his outspending her by 2 or 3 to 1, he cannot win in the key battleground states Dems NEED to win.

With all those criteria, the decision looks pretty clear to me anyway. Doesn't look like too much of a tough decision. If HRC did not have the last name Clinton, this would be a political no brainer!

The Commerce Department reported Thursday that sales of new homes dropped by 8.5 percent last month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 526,000 units, the slowest sales pace since October 1991.

The median price of a home sold in March dropped by 13.3 percent compared with March 2007, the biggest year-over-year price decline since a 14.6 percent plunge in July 1970

Who are you goning to call? Hillary of course, she can fix anything, Hillary is fixing Obama's wagon.

Who will be better President? Answer: Hillary
Who can beat McCain? Answer: Hillary

Obama might "represent the future" , but it will not be as President because HELLLOOOO...HE CAN'T BEAT MCCAIN!! Wake up Democrats.

I think that what is important here is that not only can Obama win more states and bring in new players to the political game....he can do it with integrity.

We know we cannot say that for Clinton.

Obama 08

All I know is, I DO NOT WANT A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

DEMOCRATS IN 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope any Superdelegate making his or her mind up keep in mind the caucus process is not a good indicator of how people in the party truly feel. Too few people actually attend caucuses. If there was ever a doubt of this , just look at Texas. Clinton easily beat Obama in primary balloting where millions of ballots were cast, but when the cuacuses took place, with people that had already cast a ballot ,the number was neary 90% fewer poeple and the numbers were overwhelmingly for Obama. If you had to use either a a poll sampling of Texas, which do you think is a more accurate indictator – 10's of thousands or millions.

They will make a decision soon in Obama's favor.

We will have Obama close the Deal REAL soon.

Operation Chaos marches on......

Wolf,

I truly don't know what the big uproar is about over Hillary's statement that most people who voted, voted for her. Like it or not, it is a very true statement. Of course the delegates do not count in either Michigan or Florida but that is not what she is saying. She is saying that those who did vote, most voted for her and like it or not come November, those Michigan and Florida votes will most likely go to McCain or hmmmm what is that fellows name who caused the Democrats heartache elections past......Nader??

The biggest story of the century is now on U Tube. Its the documentary on Hillary Clinton. The Hilary Movie is going to be the end of this Primary election. I hope the CNN picks up on this soon as well as the rest of the net works. It makes me nauseous that some privileged individuals can get away with anything. Forget the Super delegates watch what the Republicans do with this.

Ideally all superdelegates should only consider who can bring real good changes, no beautiful words please, to this country.

Sorry Wolf, the only question they have to ask themselves is:

Who did "We The People" vote for?

As much as I don't like to see them together, because I think Hillary is better prepare for the job,I think they need to kiss, make up, and get together to get the Republicans out of the WH period!

You cannot veto the will of the people... it would destroy the Deomcratic party.

Superdelegates are clamoring to Barack Obama so they can sleep at night knowing they haven't sold their souls.

So sad, what the DNC has done to the Democrat party just trying to bring "change" and "hope" to the process... So, now, which either way the superdelegates go, they will split the party for the Nov election. Gee, maybe those old-timers had it right after all???? Can it be they were smarter than the "super-smart, elitist" neoDems of today????

With the contoversary surroing Mr. Obama. Why is there little attention being put toward the upcoming Fraud trial involving both Clinton's?

I beleive we have every right to be concerned with a Presidential nominee that has a FRAUD lawsuit about to start during the primaries.

hillarytruth.blogspot.com/

It sounds to me like a contest of "the dream" versus "the reality".

I am tired of hearing the same stuff over and over again ... make a decision already – or just concede the general election to the Republicans.

McCain had a broken base and he is fixing it while we had an overpowering base and are nibbeling it to pieces day by day. It's almost as if the Democrats as a party don't WANT to win.

Plus, as often as I already have contributed to the Obama campaign I might as well have had a subscription

Here is a question for the Hill supporters.....

Why are you speaking out of both sides of your mouths? On one hand you are saying she should continue to the convention and let everyone down to WV and PR vote and at the same time asking why can't Sen. Obama close the deal.....which is it? I guess whatever is CONvenient huh

The Electoral College Map is what the Superdelegates should be looking at....When you look at all the big electoral college states Clinton is the candidate who won these states and will win them against McCain in November. So if the DNC want's to win in November, they better go w/Clinton. Obama would lose and lose badly against McCain in these states.

I have gathered some numbers based on the democratic primary to show what will happen in November if Obama is the nominee.

The democratic primary is different as it shares delegates based on percentage but in the general election it is winner takes all in each state. Each state won is that many delegates to winning the overall count. So if we treat the democratic primary just like the general election this is what we are looking at against McCain.

I have taken each state that has won by Obama or Clinton and given all the delegates of that state to the majority winner. I even gave Obama all the upcoming states and made him the winner giving him the delegates from them. I did not include Florida or Michigan to avoid any argument. This includes Guam and others that are counted in the democratic primary. This is only actually won states and future states given to Obama:

Obama won 37 "states"
Hillary won 17 "states"

However in a general election setting:

Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 1750

If you count Florida and Michigan which Hillary won and polls show that even if Obama campaigned in those states Hillary would have won them at that time:

Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 2118

If we gave Florida to Obama and Michigan to Hillary as polls suggest a primary today would give them:

Obama delegate count: 1692
Hillary delegate count: 1907

The bottom line is that Hillary has won in a general election model based on primaries of the democratic party and even giving Obama all the next primary states coming up. The reason Hillary won is she won all the big states practically? These states are historically won by the Republican party as to why Bush beat Kerry in 2004. Therefore if Obama cannot win the big states that Republicans tend to win he has no chance against McCain in the general election. Hillary has the only chance of being a democratic president in 2008.

So do you want a Republican in office or do you want a Democrat? The choice is clear who is more electable in November.

Tough or not I wish they would just have a backbone, make up their minds and decide NOW!

OBAMA is a joke.

God help America!

Please end this, vote Obama 08'

Hillary, for God's sake!!! Drop out!!! You have officially lost your mind claiming the popular vote!!! Watch out for that sniper fire!!!

Uhm, Wolf, it's been crunch time for the superdelegates for about 6 weeks now.

They're not budging. It's too politically risky to stand for something or someone.

... even if it means the Democratic party being torn apart...

I wish they'd just VOTE already. Put us out of our misery....PLEASE