April 24, 2008
Posted: 02:30 PM ET

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Many superdelegates are still torn between the two White House hopefuls.
Many superdelegates are still torn between the two White House hopefuls.

(CNN) — For the few hundred still undecided superdelegates who almost certainly will decide the Democratic presidential nominee, there are two key questions they must answer: who will be the better President of the United States, and who will be the stronger candidate against John McCain.

On the first question, that will come to the superdelegates going over the policy positions, experience, personality, and background of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. In the end, that decision will probably come down to their gut instincts – who they feel more comfortable with and like more.

On the second question, they will be able to look at some hard numbers. Who has the most pledged delegates? Who has won the most states? Who has won the most important Electoral College battleground states? Who has won the most popular votes? How, if at all, do you weigh in the disputed primaries in Michigan and Florida, both of which Democrats will desperately seek to win in November?

“This is for me a no-brainer,” Democratic Ohio Governor Ted Strickland, a Clinton supporter, is quoted in The Wall Street Journal as saying. “If we’re going to plan to win in November, we need to choose the candidate that has the greatest strength in the states that are necessary to get us to the electoral votes we need. I hope the super delegates are paying attention.” He was specifically referring to his state of Ohio and to Pennsylvania, both of which Clinton won by about 10 percent. She won by more than 200,000 votes in each of those states.

But Oklahoma’s Democratic governor, Brad Henry, an Obama supporter, sees it differently. He told The Journal that Obama “represents the future versus the past, the new way versus the old way.” As a result, he says Obama has brought in millions of new voters, especially younger people and African-Americans. Like other Obama supporters, he says Obama can be competitive in several states where Democrats have not always done well, including Virginia and Missouri, both of which he won. In other words, they insist, Obama will win the traditionally Democratic states but will also bring some traditionally Republican states into the mix.

We shall see. These are tough decisions for the superdelegates.

Filed under: Wolf Blitzer


Florida For Obama   April 24th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

I wish they'd just VOTE already. Put us out of our misery….PLEASE

Marc in DeKalb, IL   April 24th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Uhm, Wolf, it's been crunch time for the superdelegates for about 6 weeks now.

They're not budging. It's too politically risky to stand for something or someone.

… even if it means the Democratic party being torn apart…

Matt   April 24th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Hillary, for God's sake!!! Drop out!!! You have officially lost your mind claiming the popular vote!!! Watch out for that sniper fire!!!

Sara from Arizona   April 24th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Please end this, vote Obama 08′

Steven   April 24th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

OBAMA is a joke.

God help America!

Gobsmacked   April 24th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Tough or not I wish they would just have a backbone, make up their minds and decide NOW!

Mike   April 24th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I have gathered some numbers based on the democratic primary to show what will happen in November if Obama is the nominee.

The democratic primary is different as it shares delegates based on percentage but in the general election it is winner takes all in each state. Each state won is that many delegates to winning the overall count. So if we treat the democratic primary just like the general election this is what we are looking at against McCain.

I have taken each state that has won by Obama or Clinton and given all the delegates of that state to the majority winner. I even gave Obama all the upcoming states and made him the winner giving him the delegates from them. I did not include Florida or Michigan to avoid any argument. This includes Guam and others that are counted in the democratic primary. This is only actually won states and future states given to Obama:

Obama won 37 "states"
Hillary won 17 "states"

However in a general election setting:

Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 1750

If you count Florida and Michigan which Hillary won and polls show that even if Obama campaigned in those states Hillary would have won them at that time:

Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 2118

If we gave Florida to Obama and Michigan to Hillary as polls suggest a primary today would give them:

Obama delegate count: 1692
Hillary delegate count: 1907

The bottom line is that Hillary has won in a general election model based on primaries of the democratic party and even giving Obama all the next primary states coming up. The reason Hillary won is she won all the big states practically? These states are historically won by the Republican party as to why Bush beat Kerry in 2004. Therefore if Obama cannot win the big states that Republicans tend to win he has no chance against McCain in the general election. Hillary has the only chance of being a democratic president in 2008.

So do you want a Republican in office or do you want a Democrat? The choice is clear who is more electable in November.

awlswll   April 24th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

The Electoral College Map is what the Superdelegates should be looking at….When you look at all the big electoral college states Clinton is the candidate who won these states and will win them against McCain in November. So if the DNC want's to win in November, they better go w/Clinton. Obama would lose and lose badly against McCain in these states.

tiredofthecrap   April 24th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Here is a question for the Hill supporters…..

Why are you speaking out of both sides of your mouths? On one hand you are saying she should continue to the convention and let everyone down to WV and PR vote and at the same time asking why can't Sen. Obama close the deal…..which is it? I guess whatever is CONvenient huh

Frank, Missouri   April 24th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I am tired of hearing the same stuff over and over again … make a decision already - or just concede the general election to the Republicans.

McCain had a broken base and he is fixing it while we had an overpowering base and are nibbeling it to pieces day by day. It's almost as if the Democrats as a party don't WANT to win.

Plus, as often as I already have contributed to the Obama campaign I might as well have had a subscription :)

Bertha Vanation   April 24th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

It sounds to me like a contest of "the dream" versus "the reality".

Brian   April 24th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

With the contoversary surroing Mr. Obama. Why is there little attention being put toward the upcoming Fraud trial involving both Clinton's?

I beleive we have every right to be concerned with a Presidential nominee that has a FRAUD lawsuit about to start during the primaries.

hillarytruth.blogspot.com/

Alonzo Demetrius   April 24th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

So sad, what the DNC has done to the Democrat party just trying to bring "change" and "hope" to the process… So, now, which either way the superdelegates go, they will split the party for the Nov election. Gee, maybe those old-timers had it right after all???? Can it be they were smarter than the "super-smart, elitist" neoDems of today????

Andrew Goff   April 24th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Superdelegates are clamoring to Barack Obama so they can sleep at night knowing they haven't sold their souls.

Bell the Superdelegate   April 24th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

You cannot veto the will of the people… it would destroy the Deomcratic party.

Beca   April 24th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

As much as I don't like to see them together, because I think Hillary is better prepare for the job,I think they need to kiss, make up, and get together to get the Republicans out of the WH period!

Patricia, Redding   April 24th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Sorry Wolf, the only question they have to ask themselves is:

Who did "We The People" vote for?

Hong   April 24th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Ideally all superdelegates should only consider who can bring real good changes, no beautiful words please, to this country.

kentucky   April 24th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

The biggest story of the century is now on U Tube. Its the documentary on Hillary Clinton. The Hilary Movie is going to be the end of this Primary election. I hope the CNN picks up on this soon as well as the rest of the net works. It makes me nauseous that some privileged individuals can get away with anything. Forget the Super delegates watch what the Republicans do with this.

Tony in PA   April 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Wolf,

I truly don't know what the big uproar is about over Hillary's statement that most people who voted, voted for her. Like it or not, it is a very true statement. Of course the delegates do not count in either Michigan or Florida but that is not what she is saying. She is saying that those who did vote, most voted for her and like it or not come November, those Michigan and Florida votes will most likely go to McCain or hmmmm what is that fellows name who caused the Democrats heartache elections past……Nader??

Richard Wright   April 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Operation Chaos marches on……

Jenna, NY   April 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

They will make a decision soon in Obama's favor.

We will have Obama close the Deal REAL soon.

bob in L.A.   April 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

I hope any Superdelegate making his or her mind up keep in mind the caucus process is not a good indicator of how people in the party truly feel. Too few people actually attend caucuses. If there was ever a doubt of this , just look at Texas. Clinton easily beat Obama in primary balloting where millions of ballots were cast, but when the cuacuses took place, with people that had already cast a ballot ,the number was neary 90% fewer poeple and the numbers were overwhelmingly for Obama. If you had to use either a a poll sampling of Texas, which do you think is a more accurate indictator - 10's of thousands or millions.

Stacy Clarks, TX   April 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

All I know is, I DO NOT WANT A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

DEMOCRATS IN 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mama4obama   April 24th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

I think that what is important here is that not only can Obama win more states and bring in new players to the political game….he can do it with integrity.

We know we cannot say that for Clinton.

Obama 08

Z   April 24th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Who will be better President? Answer: Hillary
Who can beat McCain? Answer: Hillary

Obama might "represent the future" , but it will not be as President because HELLLOOOO…HE CAN'T BEAT MCCAIN!! Wake up Democrats.

JIm   April 24th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

The Commerce Department reported Thursday that sales of new homes dropped by 8.5 percent last month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 526,000 units, the slowest sales pace since October 1991.

The median price of a home sold in March dropped by 13.3 percent compared with March 2007, the biggest year-over-year price decline since a 14.6 percent plunge in July 1970

Who are you goning to call? Hillary of course, she can fix anything, Hillary is fixing Obama's wagon.

John B. From New Hampshire   April 24th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

With all those criteria, the decision looks pretty clear to me anyway. Doesn't look like too much of a tough decision. If HRC did not have the last name Clinton, this would be a political no brainer!

Matthew, Philadelphia, PA   April 24th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Obama's win over Hillary in Missouri (they were separated by less than 1% - it was so close the state was actually called for Hillary at first) is not the same as Hillary's much larger 10% or more wins in PA, OH, NJ, and FL.

Missouri showed that Obama could closely compete with Hillary in a Midwestern state (which borders his home state of Illinois by the way) that we as Dems would like to win.

Hillary's big wins in PA, OH, NJ, and FL show that - despite his outspending her by 2 or 3 to 1, he cannot win in the key battleground states Dems NEED to win.

Alda   April 24th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

How can a news website have a lilnk to give donations to Hillary Clinton. That does not seem right, unless you also have a link to give donations to Barack Obama, and also John McCain

Susan MO   April 24th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

We sincerely hope Clinton wins.

Why?

She is more experienced
She is for the people
She is a fighter

Why not Obama?

He lacks experience
He slammed the people of Pennsylvania
We do not need a president who insults the Americans.

Strongely for Hillary Now :)

Judy Green   April 24th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Barrack Obama is not the right person for our president. He is not in touch with all of the American people. Let’s face it; we are a very diverse nation from different ages to different nationalities. We need a president that can easily connect with all of our people not just the majority of the people. Obama has spoken from his heart. I believe his heart is seeking the truth. He is not comfortable with himself and this has reflected in his speeches and some of the words he chosen.

The right for women to vote is taken for granted today. One day soon it will not matter what nationality we are. Obama and Clinton have both been instrumental in bring the matter of our rights to the forefront.

We need a president that is comfortable with themselves and this will make the American people feel secure.

Lee WV   April 24th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Jack Cafferty brought up a good point,If the super delegates take the nomination away from the candidate that is ahead in every catagory and give it to Hillary there will be he– to pay.I don't think that just because 10% or lessof voters liked her better than him in the so called big states that he cannot take the sure 45% that liked him better and build on that and win these states in the fall.Give it to Hillary and try to see her win without the 90+% black votes.

monica   April 24th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

A good vetting is what senator clinton needs to convince the supers of her electability, how will she stand up to the rebublicans when they bring up monica lewinsky? and other "issues" that plagued the clinton years.

Kathy   April 24th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Wolf, more than 4000 brave men and women haave lost thier lives, and countless of thousands have been injured mentally, physically, and emotionally—all so that Iraqis can vote. It is shameful if the votes in MI & FL are not counted—to what then …..have these brave men and women sacrificed so much. Shame on this country if these votes are not counted, these men and women lost thier lives for WHAT ?????

Barbara Richards   April 24th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

You, the media is now quoting Hillary's claim that she has more popular votes as if that might be true. It is rubbish. This is distorting reality to a huge degree. CNN should not be playing an active role in her campaign to lie to America!!!
Barbara

Beny   April 24th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

I am sick and tired of the Clinton's b/c they're drugging the democratic race like drugging their cat.please give up and give a chance for a new young but talented Obama.

Truly canadian supporter for Obama.

phil   April 24th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

floridas democratic primary was also tainted .. any one remember where bill was at that time .. he was in florida speaking about his wife .. again the clintons dont follow the rules they decided on they bend them to thier own ficticious fact sheet . i would rather vote in the mayor of south park than the clintons .

jAYjAY   April 24th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Hillary's margin of victory in PA. is 9.3 and rounded correctly it goes down to 9 she did not win by double digits.

Darryl Miller   April 24th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Mike it not too late to go to school.

James, IN   April 24th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Its about time the super delegates come out and support who they want. Rather than still allow Hillary to continue her negative campaigning. It is hurting the party. It is time; people should speak up.

Jim T   April 24th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

wouldnt the voters in the big states still vote democrat even if hillary aint their nominee?

if they didnt, then they would be very very anti-obama or anti-change/hope, either that or bigotry

if the big states do vote for obama in the general, then what does the electability factor has to do with anything?

L   April 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Shall Pastor Hagee be a superdelegate since he is the authority and belittles Catholics and the dear peoples of India ?

Lisa   April 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Well if the Superdelegates voted today they will vote for Hillary! Sorry to Obama supporters but the superdelegate will decide who they think is the best candiate to beat Mccain.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   April 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Superdelegates can look at all of the above for who would be the best nominee, but what must top off that list is the will of the people and the buck stops there.

Arielle   April 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Mike- your line of thinking would only work if everyone who voted for Hillary would vote for Mccain in a general election. Howevr, many democrats would be voting for the democratic candidate no matter what. The primary and the general election are not comparable.

TruthTeller   April 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Wolf: This can't be right. You're suggesting that factors other than the pledged delegate count can be taken into account by the Super Delegates? But the Obama folks say that's the only factor that matters. What's that you say? The Obama folks are wrong–the Super Delegates can take into account anything they want, not just pledged delegate totals? That's what the rules say? Interesting. Very interesting.

Memo to Obama campaign: what you folks have been saying about the role of the pledged delegate lead in the Super Delegate selection process is pure hogwash.

Preeti   April 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Blitzer — stop peddling Clinton support !!!!

meggy   April 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

PA goes white…NC will follow.

berksdan   April 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

I agree with Hillary on this: The Superdelegates need to vote their conscience, not neccesarily the way their constituents voted.

They need to step up, and decide who has the ETHICS, the INTEGRITY, the HONESTY to lead America into the future. Who will build the consensus to achieve a better America for all?

Clearly that candidate is Sen. OBAMA.

SUpers: VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE!

Sarah   April 24th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Thanks Mike for finally showing us Hillary's illogical math. Now we can see why the twisted monkey thinks she has the popular vote.

sakki   April 24th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

If any Obama supporters read this comment, get the message across to Senator Obama not to accept anymore debates from CNN, MSNBC and ABC, it is a conspiracy of Hillary Clinton's camp and the media to go use it aganist Obama. CNN, especially is helping Hillary Clinton to win the nomination.

OBAMA '08

Hope, Kansas   April 24th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

I will vote for Clinton in November or I will not vote at all.

John Smith   April 24th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Mike is one of those "idiots" with a bird's brain. Is ther anyone out there, anyone with common sense who believes that Obama will not win the so-called big states? has any one figured in a potentail VP that will make this whole issue of "electoral college" mute? It is a sad day in this nation when people cannot use basic "logic" taught in college!!!

LB   April 24th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

I see two candidates. One with a vision of Hope, who is willing to work for the American people to change the way the government is presently working and the second candidate who is constantly reminding people how the government was run during the 1990's. Which reading between the lines says to me that she will continue to run the government with the same old 1990's policies and politics.

Mike   April 24th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Hillary says she's ahead in popular votes. ANOTHER CLINTON LIE.
Fellow dems, let's not return the White House to the days of renting the Lincoln bedroom, travelgate, Monicagate, Whitewater, missing files, etc. We may be more partisan than in the past, but do we really want to move back into the gutter?

Brendan D, Niles, IL   April 24th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

To Judy Green (and those who think like her):

What has Hillary Clinton done to deserve my vote? Obama has, as you say, "spoken from his heart." From what has Senator Clinton spoken, except a calculated political maneuver?

I am searching for any reason people have to support Hillary Rodham Clinton for president. So far, the best I hear is that Obama is not ready or that he's out of touch, though neither of these has been either proven nor tested.

So, Clinton fans, please tell me: Why is Hillary Clinton the better nominee, and why is she the best person for president?

NOBAMA NO WAY!   April 24th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

More people have voted for Hillary Clinton than any other candidate in presidential history.

Michigan & Florida voters WILL count in the general election, so they NEED to be considered in this argument!!!

CLINTON '08

Shannon from Washington   April 24th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I would like to remind all the Hillary supporters and Hillary herself, there is a reason we live in a Democracy. We the people of the United States have voted in the majority for Obama. Hillary has not had enough people vote for her or even donate money to her. There will always be HATERS of Obama and they are the minority, to continually listen to their whining brings down the election. There is only one truthful and upfront candidate and he will be the next President of the United States. SuperDelegates have NOT flocked to Hillary out of respect for the former first lady and I am certain she has blackmailed and called in all her cards against them to remain at least neutral. When Bill Richards dared to cross her threats they publicly crucified him. The super delegates need to get over their fear and intimidation by the Clinton's and do the honorable thing for our country.

George Z   April 24th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Hillary is winning North Carolina!!!

Ryan Healey   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

It has become very apparent to many in the last week that Barack Obama is not ready to be President. From his constant gaffes to his complaining and going to pieces when asked hard questions during a debate. Sadly, the media's refusing to investigate his background or question is experience earlier in the primary season while gleefully bashing Clinton caused millions of Americans to vote for Obama thinking he was a knight riding in to save the country. Now, they know better and many would change their votes if they could.

The Democratic party will be defeated in November if Obama gets nominated. They must pull Clinton and Obama aside and make him understand that Vice President is the best he is going to get this time around. Then, together he and Clinton had to patch this up. I don't blame Clinton for getting negative, she HAD to vet Obama when the media refused to. She was right, something we learned in PA!

Charles Eaddy   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Clinton says that she can win the big states, however if she steals this nomination from Obama the Black community will not vote for her. She cannot win a single big state without the Black vote.

Please Vote Obama   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Dear Superdelegates:

Please support Obama. You know in your gut that this man has done all he can to elevate the political discourse in this country to steer us away from negative campaigning and to return the focus back to moving beyond the nation's problems.

You know in your gut that Obama is the one candidate who can get things done in Washington because he can - and IS - bringing people together, inspiring an entire nation to solve its problems together.

No it won't be easy. But he has shown that he is up for the challenge for the past 16 months. He has closed gaps in the polls that no one thought he could close, he has won over voters that no one thought he could win. And he has handled controversies with a dignity, poise, and thoughtfulness so rare in today's politics - when most thought he would crumble. He did not.

He is still standing strong. And the movement continues to grow. Please get behind the candidate who has gotten behind us all.

Obama for America. Yes we can.

Jot   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain, like it or not. This is a man who doesn't want Michigan and Florida delegates to be counted what an idiot same like Richardson his surrogate. The democratic pary is done if Obama is the nominee

NOBAMA NO WAY!   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

More people voted for Al Gore back in 2000, and that's viewed as Bush (or the Supreme Court) robbing him of the Presidency.

If Obama gets the nomination, it will be viewed the same way.

can't deliver   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Obama was given the advantage at the start- Oprah, Kerry, the Kennedys and the Shrivers. They wanted to give him a head start.

It worked- for so long.

But the American people are more savvy than the newly registered youth- who were too lazy, too selfish and too indifferent to ever vote before.

We know who the true leader is. We will write Hillary Clinton's name in in NOV if she is not our nominee.

Many of us don't care for the bandwagon approach to elections. Most of us are looking for the best candidate on a fair and level playing field. The DNC corrupted and fixed this primary for their golden boy Obama. It backfired bigtime. Now we are split 50/50. The Hillary democrats will remember the hate, the name-calling, the insults, the strong-arm tactics, the boasting, the gloating, the cocky swaggering, the jeering and the mocking. We will remember in Nov.

Steve Idaho   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

1. If the superdelegates were smart, they would go with the candidate leading in delegates, votes i& states. To go against the will of the voters, would give McCain the presidency

2. for Hillary to win, she would have to win over 70% of the votes in all remaining primaries. Then she have to seat illegal votes From Michigan and Florida without anybody noticing. The fat lady is half way through her song right now for Hillary and Hillary is plugging her ears and humming.

Judy   April 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

I wish the media would talk about the electoral vote. It is clear that Hillary is the hands down winner when you count up the electoral college votes because she has won nearly all of the big states. That is what we should be looking for (more than number of states or super delegates thusfar) because in November it is the electoral votes that count. The Democratic party would be wise to choose Hillary if they want to beat McCain in the general election.

Time to move on   April 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

If the Democrats fail to nominate Obama they just lost a leader in life time.Primary is different from general election,if Obama as at today can have more delegates than Clinton a well established political name,then the Dem should know he is their best chance to win in november,And thank Goodness superdelegates are not dummies they know better.
OBAMA 08

Badger   April 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

I always thought that the reason we vote for a person is becouse we feel that he is the best choice for the position. I keep hearing the same thing over and over again from people on TV. 'It's not as important if the person is qualified but CAN THEY WIN?' No wonder this country is screwed up.

Debbie, NJ   April 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Mike you have a lot of "ifs". You sound like Hillary. Everyone here is a solution. Let Nancy Peloski take Hillary's place. She does have experience, she's not riding on her husbands coattails, she's a white woman and a Dem. Will this work. ANYBODY BUT HILLARY!!!!

Ohiobo, J From Vancouver, Canada   April 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Electoral college math, popular vote, winning the group that matters, Obama does not stand a chance. Hillary is a winner. Obama's youthful supporters should come down to earth. Hillary has to be the nominee for Democrats to win the presidential elections. Emotion of Obama and his supporters is so raw that they throw insults arround. It is sad that both are not willing to work together. Democrats should listen to former Governor Como.
If Hillary is not nominated, it will be a train wreck for the Democrats because Obama does not yet have the experience to make it in the whitehouse

Jane Morris   April 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

It really made me mad that Larry King did a one-on-one interview with Hillary Clinton the might before the PA primary. I am a big CNN fan and usually watch Larry King Live but I'm boycotting him until he gives Barack Obama an interview the night before a big primary. I fault Larry with Hillary's big win in PA and that was not what a lot of us wanted! And yes, I am a 73 year old white retired woman but no way do I wnat another 4 years of a Clinton white house. I want the kind of chnange Barack inspires in me for my children and grandchildren!

Pam   April 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Wolf, quit pretending you're impartial and just say what we all know. You're a Hillary supporter.

Mike   April 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Wolfe, why are we still using the electoral college? The electoral college has outlived its usefullness long ago. Why doesn't my vote really count…I don't need someone to vote for me. Those days went out many years ago. I believe the electoral college is a big waste of my tax dollars, particularly when the college doesn't really reflect my views.

Mike

Nelda   April 24th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

If you are a Hillary supporter tell me why if she is so experienced and ready on day 1 and all the other things she says she does better than Obama why can't she close the deal? She says she is the one who can beat John McCain in November,really than why hasn't she beat Obama yet? These are easy questions. She will just lie about things that is why I don't trust her.

John Smith   April 24th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Of course the Republicans have waited for years to have their revenege on the Clintons! Thye so want Hillary that it is sad to see the democrats cry to put Hillary out there; I mean "an impeached presidentail family." This is where the Republicans left off (impeachments, lies etc), and it there that they will pick up. So, give Hillary the nomination and let us see!

Mrs. America   April 24th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

By numbers, Obama will have earned it based on primary wins he received before people started finding out the less attractive details about him. However, with what we know now, and keep on learning more, if he is the Dem candidate, we might as well hand over the presidency to McCain.

The super delegates should go with their gut, which probably says put Mrs. Clinton in and accept the fallout from Obama fans (yes, fans). If Obama wins the rest of the primaries, or at least most of them, my opinion would change and I would support their appointing Obama, even though I believe, and probably so do the super dels, that he probably can't beat McCain. He's too inexperienced. Hillary is the only good choice, and I'm not anti-Obama. I supported him before the truth started coming out.

I sincerely fear more Bush policy for the next four years. America needs to start repairing its tattered global reputation and start giving back people their civil rights. McCain will not do either.

Julie   April 24th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

New news coming out? Obama-odinga-rezko-ayers-auchi-saddam hussein scary stuff going around on you tube, Obama is not FOR the U.S.

Mike   April 24th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

To all HillBillies out there:

Hillary has won the big states by winning the traditional republican districts in the individual states. Those districts will return to the Republican fold at the general election.

Hillary has lost all the "big states" in the districts where democrats do best. Think about it.

dv   April 24th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Traditional democratic states like California and New York will vote Democratic whether Hillary or Obama (or even me) is the candidate. Margin of victory does not matter in a general election - It doesn't matter whether California and New York are won 80%-20% (which Hillary thinks she could do) or 51%-49% (which Obama could most certainly do). A win is still a win. These states need to be taken out of Clinton's "formula". With those states in Obamas camp (versus McCain), he does have a better chance than Hillary.

Gaby   April 24th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Strange!
They say that Obama lacks experience but Bush had 4 years of experience as President and he blew it.
People said that Obama slammed the people of Pennsylvania, but did he really? Or he just told something that it is a reality and people of Pennsylvania is not willing to accept ? Maybe they like the sniper story better, or the Colombia trade better.
They also said that Hillary got a lot of money after winning PA, maybe now she will be able to pay her debts! So much for the one who is going to fix our economy and cannot even fix hers!
Hillary is the one offending the American people with her lies and her negative attitude.

Chocolate Diva from Texas   April 24th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I agree with all of the bloggers who wish it would just be over. If HRC wins I am going to vote for her. To me it's more important that this thing is over and we take the whitehouse back. Like a month ago.

BigSexy1975 for Obama

His own worst enemy   April 24th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

The hateful, nasty, insulting Obama supporters ruined it for their candidate.

They took voters willing to vote for Obama- to staunch NEVER Obama, voters.

That is the price to pay when you denigrate and disrespect your fellow Americans and fellow democrats.

Alienating the very people whose votes you need in Nov to secure a win.

Obama supporters are allegedly "educated"- but we'll see how smart their strategy of hate and intimidation is, come Nov.

Kel from Auburn, AL   April 24th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

The real question is, are the reasons to not vote for Obama worth putting Hillary in office? I think its a given that everyone likes Obama more.

gary   April 24th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

SUPER DELIGATES SHOULD GO FOR REALITY NOT FANTASY. HRC HAS A TRACK RECORD, KNOW HOW , AND IS OUR BEST CANIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. O.B. HAS NOTHING BUT A SMOOTH SPEECH AND SOME CHURCH COMMUNITY SERVICE. WOW. HE IS SUCH A GREENHORN. O.B. HAS A CLOSED BOOK OF LIFE. HRC HAS OPENED HER LIFE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD . I HOPE THEY GO FOR THE BEST QUALIFIED CANIDATE. THIS IS OUR COUNTRIE'S LIVES THEIR PUTTING IN THEIR HANDS. O.B. IS NOT READY . HE NEEDS 8 MORE YRS. AND SHOW SOME KIND OF A TRACK RECORD THAT HE HAS HELPED OUR COUNTRY. HIS FIRST TIME TO GO WHERE HE WAS WANTED ,HE TURNED AWAY FROM. THAT WAS NEW ORLEANS. HRC DIDNT HESITATE, AND SHE WAS BEHIND IN THIS RACE. I HOPE THE DELIGATES THINK ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS. GO HRC.

Venus   April 24th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Wolf - you and the media and the Clintons know it's time for Hillary to pack it up and take her lunch because her numbers not crunch!

Hillary needed to win Penn-State by 65% and not 9%!

The Gov. of Penn and the Gov. of New Jersey - told Hillary and the news media that Hillary needed to win BIG not slim!

Also - she would need to win the rest of this race by 68% -
Plus - she is broke!

Obama had this wrapped up prior to Ohio when he won 10 states and Hillary won NONE!

If the shoe was on the other foot - what do you think Hillary and her supporters would require Obama to do?

It's over for Hillary and has been for some time!

spike   April 24th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

The supes should be blamed for this contracted affair. Why can't they make up their minds?

SUCH an easy decision. It has to be Obama at this stage -

simply because you can't choose the person with fewer pledged delegates, less of the popular vote, and fewer states won.

I think some supes are JEALOUS because Obama hasn't been groomed for this position and he should 'wait his turn'.

Brent   April 24th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Watching the Situation Room is getting painfull. Nothing on Iraq? Nothing on Israel/Palestine talks? Nothing on Israel bombing Syria's reactor? Nothing on the GI Bill? Yet you do a story of "maybe" race had something to do with Pennsylvania, or "maybe" it was the bitter comments, even though you have nothing but speculation to support that. The public would be better served hearing stories that are important that can be backed up by facts. What happened to US journalism?

max   April 24th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Its obvious you all know nothing about the will of the people…and can Hillary win the election if only the big states vote for her???? so why on earth would this be an argument … if she can pick up his states in the general he can do the same voters are not stupid they know whats at stake……. no one really wants a pres that her husband disgraced the nation we are just waiting for it to come up…they are disgusting…….Obama has won the nomination and you all need to stop this nonsense……. we are smarter than you all…this is the 21st century stop living in the past…..believe me the DNC is not going to loose millions of voters (for life) over the nasty Clintons (I did not have sex with that woman) Hillary beside him…. I was under sniper fire in Bosina see the resemblance we dont want this please humor me is it because she is white and she wants to take out revenge on you all for what you did to them when Bill was in the white house having sex with an intern!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the madness already!!!!! they are pathetic

jimmy vekmen   April 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

GOP HAS STARTED PROBING OBAMA AND HIS WIFE MICHELLE
ABOUT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM.
GOP STRATEGISTS AS THEY PROVED WITH KARL ROVE , ARE VERY THOROUGH . THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED PROBING ADS AGAINST OBAMA, EVEN THOUGH MCCAIN "DISAPPROVES"OF THE ATTACKS. OBAMA HAS MADE TOO MANY MISTAKES IN ADDITION TO HIS PASTOR PROBLEM. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
SIGN OF THE DIRECTION OF THE ELECTORATE IS THE PENNSYLVAIA VOTE. JUST TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE STATISTICS AND THE CROSS SECTION OF THE PENNSYLVAINIA VOTERS. HILLARY CUT THROUGH ACROSS ALL THE LINES
OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGAPHICS.. (note 92 % OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS VOTED FOR OBAMA) AND HE STILL LOST!!! GO FIGURE IT OUT.

Emmanuel   April 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

the super-delegates should also consider who has lied the most?, Clintons. who is more dis-honest?, Clintons. who will say anything, do anything, rubbish a fellow democrat?, Clintons.

Who thinks that the American people wants the Lincoln bedroom to be rented out to campaign contributors for overnight stays?, Clintons.

After all of these questions are answered, the choice for the superdelegates is clear, Barack Obama is the nominee and will be elected in november.

James   April 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

While a vigorous debate could be held over the merits of choosing delegates by means of a primary election vs. a caucus (and there are clearly some very valid arguments for each), this is nonetheless an irrelevant issue at present. The entire DNC, including members of Senator Clinton’s team, helped to craft the present system and agreed to abide by it many months ago. Yet, we continue to hear Senator Clinton argue that the Popular Vote is what ultimately matters most. To illustrate the utter fallacy of this argument, consider two states - Colorado and Oklahoma - which have nearly identical voting populations, delegates from one state chosen by a primary election, delegates from the other by a caucus.

In Oklahoma’s primary, Clinton gained 10 delegates over Obama by virtue of a 23.6% victory and 98,350 net votes.

In Colorado’s caucus, Obama gained 15 delegates over Clinton by virtue of a 34.2% victory, but only netted 41,274 votes, well less than half of what Clinton earned in Oklahoma’s closer race.

In the caucuses of Washington and Minnesota, states much larger than Colorado and Oklahoma, Obama comfortably won by more than a 2-1 margin. In fact, of the 17 caucuses held thus far, Senator Clinton has only won the delegate count (by 1) in American Samoa.

Sonny James   April 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

If the Super delegates "Give" this election to Hillary….it will be just like when the Supreme Court "Gave" the 2000 vote to Bush.

That was a "Selection" not an "Election." And this will be one, too.

Arkansas Undertaker   April 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

To: Judy Green and Matt

There is no way that a woman will ever be elected to the United States Presidency. Thats just a fact! Even if she gets the nomination by some miracle. She will definiatley loose in November. The citizens of America are not ready for a woman President.

All of this Hillary Clinton hype is just hot air. And after the superdelegates weigh in and finally bring this stuff to an end, the better. No matter how you try to spin it to her advantage, Senator Clinton is behind in the Polpular Vote and Delegate count. And she will soon be behind in Superdelagates as well.

People need to wake up and realize that Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton and the 1990's are over with and done. They are not coming back.

OBAMA 08

His own enemy   April 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

The pro-Obama bloggers have been so hateful and nasty. Vulgar and name-calling. Insulting and demeaning to other voters.

Speaks volumes about the Candidate they support.

A cocky, boastful, jeering, schoolboy trying to demean others to build himself up.

We've already had Bush show us that.

No to Obama.

Quinn - PA   April 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

If the DNC delgate rules were winner take all, this would not be an issue. Hillary would be the nominee now and campaigning against McCain. Pelosi says their vote should reflect the will of the people, what happened to Richardson who endorsed Obama when NM was won by Hillary, same goes for the Gov of Oklahoma. They all seem confused and not on the same page. What a mess!
Just a thought from an uneducated, blue collar catholic over 40 year old woman.

Hillary or McCain 08

Peter, MN   April 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Clinton is causing serious problems for Democrats. If she is allowed to be the nominee, McCain will beat her hands down. If the Democrats do not want to weep from the left side of their eyes in November, they should let Clinton go home in peace.She has divided Democrat, she lied about her experience, and has been running negative adverts. The only good thing I have seen from Clinton is the she had a snipper when others were laughing. If Clinton forgot that no one shot her in Bosnia, she will forget so many things in the White House.

race card   April 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Obama lost my vote forever, when he played the race card in SC.

HH   April 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

END THE DRAMA VOTE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!

Eric   April 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

I'd rather not vote than put someone in the Whitehouse that I do not trust. Therefore, Hillary will never have my support. I don't trust her at all and I don't see how anyone could.

The only experience Hillary has is telling lies and being around people with politcal experience. She votes yes to Iraq, yes to NAFTA, and has been working on Healthcare for 15+ years (and nothing has happened). How can you expect anything good to be done by her in 4 years if nothing has happened in 15 years?

Debby   April 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Wolf bottom line the superdelegates should look at who won the electoral states or the Dems. don't have a chance in Nov. Most of the states Obama is claiming victory to will go Republican in the fall when they all come out in droves to vote.

Peter in Canada   April 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

These are not the most important questions if you are a Democrat. A very shallow analysis as usual Wolf!
The most important question is: If Obama wins the legitimate popular vote, the pledged delegate count, the most states, new states for the Democrats to win, registers new Democratic voters, attracts a new youth vote to the party, attracts swing voters and carries 80+% of the black vote, will there be a Democratic Party left if Hillary is anoited as the nominee over Obama by the Superdelegates???

Ren   April 24th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

I'd just like to say I plan on voting Democrat in November. I realize this isn't the LOUDLY PROCLAIMED opinion, but I'd like to remind you all that it's the majority opinion.

We need to stop listening to the extremist Obama or Hillary supporters who scream in defiance of "their" candidate not being chosen and remember that we're all democrats and WILL vote for the candidate who receives the most votes in the democratic nomination process.

And if we all vote for our party's nominee, then a democrat will be in the white house in January.

But to those of you who say "if my candidate doesn't get the nominee then I'll vote for McCain", please just turn in your american citizenship now and get out. You don't get to demand that the majority of the nation go your way. Part of democracy means that you don't get to always get what you want, but that the majority rules.

Read that again, please. "THE MAJORITY RULES."

Not just the few people who scream the loudest.

Let's take our country back. All of us.

Billy   April 24th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

These super delagates that going for Obama, I hope they don't have
to eat crow if he is elected.

God Help Us if he is elected.

Neil   April 24th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

What most people don't understand is that the traditional democratic states: NY, Cali, IL and others will go Democratic no matter who the nominee is. If I was running as a Democratic I would beat McCain in these states.

So then it comes down to "Swing States" What many have failed to realize is that McCain is not a strong conservative or republican, and in this election Obama has created many more "swing" states including MO, LA, etc. Obama can compete in these states due to his overwhelming support from African Americans. Hillary unfortunately cannot.

Lastly if anyone thinks that Obama will have a problem with McCain in places swing states like Ohio, PA, etc look at the number of people that have been voting in each state during the Democratic and Republican Primaries. In Ohio for example Obama got 2nd place and still had more than 300 thousand votes more than McCain who WON his primary. No matter what, there are more people voting democratic this year because of Bush's failed policies and places like Ohio and PA will not be close.

If you gave Obama only 33% of Clinton's votes in Ohio and ALL of the republican votes to McCain, Obama would still beat McCain by over 375 thousand. It's not close at all, and Ohio is a "Swing" State"

JR   April 24th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

If the delegates are not willing to stake a position now, I would hope the undecided's would band together and say they will not cast a vote for either candidate, unless the two work out a deal. I believe that together, Clinton and Obama would be a tremendous and unstoppable force. Since Clinton is more versed on policy and has quite a bit more experience, I would suggest she be at the top of the ticket with Obama as VP. This is a ticket I would fully support. It allows them both to bring their supporters together and unify the party. I hate to say it, being a proud and true "D," but if Obama gets the nod as the nominee - he will not be able to count on my vote.

Clinton - or - Clinton/Obama 2008

Barry   April 24th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Hi Wolf,

Thanks for all the great election coverage. While Hillary implores superdelegates to disregard Obama's current lead in delegates, her only real hope is to use Bill's backroom connections to many of the congressmen, governors, etc. who comprise the superdelegates.

By nature, superdelegates are long-standing political figures with whom Bill Clinton would surely have interacted over the past fifteen to twenty years. These relationships are Hillary's only remaining card heading down the road to the convention.

Also, I hope you don't mind me dropping in a brief plug here… I am so interested in the election coverage that, as a comedy writer, I'v spoofed a few '3rd Party Candidates' on my website. If you'd like a break from the skulduggery of the campaign trails and want a chuckle, take a look. It's at http://www.BrevityTV.com.

Cheers and thanks again, Wolf. :)

Barry

Michael O'Neal   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

At first Hillary was slammed, mercilessly for playing a 'strategy game' to get the nomination. She stayed cool and stuck to her guns. Now, people are waking up and saying " Oh my…we need these states that she won to get a Democrat elected…and Obama is doing poorly with the coalitions that voted in them.

He says we should elect a president based not on experience but judgement and the ability to bring people together….I agree.

Jane Morris   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I am from Ohio but I am very disappointed in my Democratic governor Ted Strickland. If he thinks all "older" "white" "women" are Hillary supporters, he is way off base. My democratic friends and I are all Barack Obama supporters and as a consequence of his actions in this primary, I will not vote for him next time he runs.

mary cleveland, ohio   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I hope all the Clinton supporters are paying attention to her behavior. Just pay attention to what she is saying and doing. Would you want the President of the United States to outright lie to you like Hillary did yesterday? Yesterday Hillary said she is ahead in the popular vote. THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE, because the Mi. and Fla. votes do not count, never have counted and had better not ever count. If they ever count, then we'll have more than a lying Presidential Candidate, we'll have a lying Democratic Party.

Aside, from that, we do not need the CLINTONS RUNNING UP BILLS AND HOPING TO GET ELECTED SO THE TAX PAYERS CAN PAY FOR THEIR SCREWED UP CAMPAIGN. They are not paying their bills during this campaign and that speaks more volumes than anything else. What do you Hillary supporters think of people who don't pay their bills?

IAMWMD   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Hillary won the larger states due to her being a caucasian woman and taking the majority of votes from rural areas. A lot of older caucasian people still cling to their racial values that they were taught in the late 50's and early 60's and if presented with a choice of a Democatic caucasian they will go with the person they've been taught to be a better race which is a total myth.

They will accept Hillary's lies and deceit just because she's caucasian.

Obama won with forward thinking educated, younger people that will vote for years to come. You can't say that for Hillary supporters.

In the general election they will join Obama or suffer the consequences of a Republican Administration, period.

Obama 08

Rick from NJ   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I am a woman and would recommend to the superdelegates to support Hillary. She reaches white males and the middle of the road voters.

I think they can't look at the beginning of the primary voters. None of the issues about Obama were evident.

Now that they have a better picture of Obama I think they should be asking who could beat McCain.

There is no way that Obama could beat McCain. He has too many negatives and is basically not proving himself by the last biggest primary.

He has Reverend Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko and William Ayers surrounding his name.
He has a father with Muslim ties.
He has been called an "elitist" by the Republicans
He can't reach the "middle of the road" Democrats.

There is no way he can win. If the Democrats knew what they know now, they would never have voted for him.

Mike   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

To be honest Wolf…

I do not know how anyone can say that this is a fair and accurate contest… Two major states violated the rules and will not be counted… Obama claims that he should be the nominee because it will be against the will of the people if the superdelegates vote for Clinton… the problem with that scenario is that two states did not count so the will of the people is not truely represented… Clinton says to look at the electoral college… well she has a point as well but no one is sure whether or not they will support Obama as well in November… then you through in some of the superdelegates that have went against the voters in their state… that includes Kerry, Richardson, and many others… once again hurting Obama's case regarding the will of the people… who wins???

It sure looks like no one… I would not want to be wrong if whomever the nominee ends up being… especially if they lose in November!!!

If I were a superdelegate I would vote for who I think is most likely going to win in November… then beg the other to be the VP!!!

Obama will be President   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Only the Super Delegates can knock sense into Hillary…..lets go vote her out!

Gina   April 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I won't take credit for this but I read a very interesting question on another site:
If Obama has it all sewn up and "won"…..why doesn't he just quit campaigning ?
Everyone's screaming for Hillary to quit….when she is the one who has proven she is not a quitter….and he's the one who "won" it already yet he won't debate. I'm pretty confused by his behavior I guess.

Count Florida and Michigan, look at the electoral map and if we want a Democrat in the White House Hillary is our candidate.

GTWMS   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Wolf,

Since Billary was the former first lady for Arkansas for sixteen years, the former first lady of these United States for eight and in her second term as the Senator of New York, my question to you is why hasn't and can't she close out Obama? Prior to 2004, who had heard of Obama?

joe   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

EVERYBODY IS MAD THAT OBAMA DOSENT WEAR A U.S. PIN LOOK AT BUSH HE WEARS ONE AND HE STILL SUCKS AS A PRESIDENT. ALSO EVERYONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT REV WRIGHT HAVE PEOPLE EVER WANDER HOW MANY KKK MEMBERS HAVE DONATED TO THE CLINTONS AND MCCAIN. AMERICA IS NOT READY FOR A BLACK PRESIDENT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE ALOT OF OLD FOOLS WHO WANT LET IT HAPPEN HINT PA. JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS WE KEEP CHANGING THE RULES SO THAT THE BLACK PEOPLE CANT WILL. NOW I HOPE WHITE AMERICA CAN SEE WE ARE WINNIG THE MOST STATES, DELGATES AND POPULAR VOTE AND STILL THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. WHY SHOULD WE COUNT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN IT DOSENT MATTER.

Eric   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

since republicans do not vote in democratic primaries, we do not know how many would switch parties in the general for either democratic nominee. since democrats pick between two democratic candidates, we do not know who would not vote democratic in the general if their primary pick lost. these numbers might not be material, but if not, i am wondering why i am not hearing anyone address them.

JR   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

And dammit - count FL and MI!!!!! They are American citizens too!!

race card   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

How can Obama NOT win the nomination?
He has been given all the advantages:
Celebrity support
Media bias and adoration
Free airtime to give lofty speeches
DNC fixed primaries in his favor
Flawed caucus format to magnify his support and appeal
Throwing away Hillary wins in Fl and Mi
20 debates biased in his favor.
Willingness to play the race card to discourage personal scrutiny
Now super delegates forgetting their true role and propping him up.

And still he's got 50%- only.

John Smith   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

If you want to win— win with integrity and grace, not with a "name recognition." There is no way, not even Bill, can bring back the Internet wealth of the 90's (not without Al Gore). I guess today, Gore is laughing at dumb supporters of Hillary. Pleas tell me– why have majority of those who served during the Clinton years decided to go with Obama? Do your "home-work" bird-brain people!!!

Ann   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

How can Deval Patrick say all peoples votes count, with a straight face? Baracks operatives steamrolled the effort for a revote in Michigan! Why isn't that reported??? Does he actually think Michigan and Florida are going to rally around him when he has stifled our vote? I think Barack is in for a huge sucker-punch from these two states–just like he has done to us! Don't expect any Kumbaya moments from us–we don't count (UNTIL NOVEMBER)!

Ed from Texas   April 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Democrats, start uniting!!! Hillary supporters take a sip of the bitter cup and understand that your money helps her campaign. She is running out of money because of poor mangement. She is losing because of a poor strategy. She can run…I encourage her to run, but she is going to lose Indiana. She is trailing in the polls and she has yet to ba able to come from behind and win a state from Obama.

The knock out punch is coming, she is running out of money, she is desparately doing everything she can to win. She has run the good race. There is no shame in accepting defeat. Do what you need to do, and even stay in if you can afford it all the way to June. But do the right thing and win the punch comes in two weeks, start building gridges again.

Obama is a great candidate, and is a whole lot better than McCain. It is great that you support Hillary, and as Hillary has stated….they agree 95% of the time. Are you really not going to vote? Are you really going to vote for 4 more years of Republican mismanagement? Hillary has admitted that Obama is the better choice! Promote the positives and the progressive ideas to lead us in the next four to eight years! Yes We Can (Obama) and Yes We Will (Clinton). Go Democrats for 2008!

Tootie Boca Raton, Fl   April 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

To: Fla for Obama

What didn't you get pal, Fla did vote and Hillary won.

Both names were on the ballot, neither campaigned in Fl,but

Hillary won. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT>

piper   April 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

I was for Hillary but since penn.I dont trust her she is deceitful if she gets the nomination I will have to change parties or not vote
.I trust McCain more than her and will encourage my friends to do likewise

RJ   April 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Hillary supporters identify with her devisive "attack" at all cost attitude. Precisely, the kind of neo-conservative idealogy that got the US into a war in IRAQ.

America needs a president that can restore her image in the world, and lead the country at a time of high anxiety.

Not a "kill for bear" president that Clinton would be. In fact, she's no better than the current occupant, and Democrats will find their house and senat e majorities reduced in the Novemeber elections.

RT   April 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Well Mike, its nice to live in an IDEAL world isn't it?

henrie alabama   April 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

WOLF, IAM WATCHING TO SEE WHAT THE SUPERDELGATES WILL DO IF PANTSUIT HILLARY WALKS AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION I WILL GO INDEPENDENT . SHE HAS RUINED THE DEMCRATIC PARTY

jimtranr   April 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

The "math" the superdelegates–whose purpose is to prevent another McGovern-like blowout–have to consider isn't just the total vote cast but who cast it, who's likely to vote again in November for the Democratic nominee, and who's likely instead to stay home or, worse, vote for the Republican nominee. So while exit polls may not be the most precise of indicators, they are what's there to work with. And the superdelegates should be giving that data a good hard look in addition to the overall vote counts and "states won."

My take on what's there is that Hillary Clinton has a better shot at winning the general than Barack Obama has. And that's how I'm going to vote when my turn comes up in Oregon.

Seth   April 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Super-delegates WILL NOT overturn the person who won. And the metric used by the DNC to determine who won is pledged delegates.

ABC   April 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Comparison of the three candidates

As now, Americans are stuck with three candidates. How do we screen the candidates? Here are the things we need to know:

1. Age and Health:
McCain is too old (71 now) and in remission from skin cancer. The other two candidates do not seem have these problems.

2. Character, Wisdom, and Conviction
The future of this nation depends on the character, wisdom, and conviction of our next president. This is the most important factor to evaluate a candidate. Any person who is not wise enough to understand that our nation has deteriorated in the past few years because of the Iraq war does not deserve to be our next president. Same rule applies to any person who has unacceptable personality frauds or has an agenda that is not totally American.

McCain is an honorable veteran and respected senator. However, he is too stubborn and too committed to the Iraq (or may-be Iran) war. Obama is an inspiring speaker to some, but slippery and without substance to others. He is the most unknown among the three candidates in this area. Yet, we have already known many things that can handicap him in the general election and in the presidency: for example, his dealings with the indicted Chicago land dealer; his relationship with Rev Wright.; his wife’s stand on races and America; and his smoking and drug history. There is also some doubt if he is totally color blind in dealing with racial issues. Hillary has been in the public light for more than 30 years. She has built some resistance from the public, particularly from the media. However, she is an optimistic and smart person with a resilient strength to overcome difficulties. The most amazing thing is her uninhibited conviction to restore American strength and to lift up the poor and weak regardless of races.

3. Electability:
Obama can win the nomination, but not the general electron. The 2008 general election, using the 2004 presidential election results as a reference, will essentially be divided between the “red” and “blue” states. The advantages that Obama had with the black voters and the caucus process can disappear easily in those “red” states in the general election. When weighing in different voters compositions (races and genders) and the general perception about the candidates, Obama may lose one or two of big blue states such as CA, NY and PA, besides Ohio. Where can he find the electro-votes to win?

Hillary has been able to capture most of the blue states in the primary, despite strong completions from Obama. If she is the democratic candidate, she has a very good chance to keep all the blue states in the camp, besides being favored in Ohio and Arkansas, and possibly FL.

Eddie G   April 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

You can't compare the general election to the primaries. Primaries are interparty elections. Die hard democrats that voted for Hillary in the primary, will vote for Obama in the fall, unless they are just racists that haven't moved into the 21st century yet. Independents will vote for Obama. Many republicans, like me, will vote for Obama. If the DNC steals the nomination away from Obama, I will vote republican again. I could not vote for Clinton because she is not trustworthy and will stop at nothing to get into the whitehouse. I simple can not understand how over 60% of the voters in Pennsylvania find Clinton to be untrustworthy, yet many of them voted for her anyway….that does not say much for the integrity of those voters.

eli   April 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Hillary won California, but the latest poll shows Obama winning bigger then Hillary when both are against MCain. Same with NY now.

That's why the electoral count extrapolated to the general election is not applicable. and besides, the more Obama is known, the more people grasp what he is about. It's true some people aren't voting for him because he is black, but I have no doubt his candidacy will be a powerful wake up call for change. Let's not lose hope on the american people

Jimmy Wright   April 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Wolf, you sound as though you believe just because Hillary won PA and Ohio in the primary that Obama cannot win those states in the general election. I thought you could see further down the road than that! Give Obama a break! What says Obama won't win PA and Ohio by a bigger margin over John McCain that Hillary won over him. However, it doesn't help Obama with you going over and over the same old stuff about Hillary winning PA and Ohio as though Obama does not have a chance to win those states in the general election..

NickNas   April 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

It is plain to see. WHO would the WORLD trust?

Then look at whos trustworthy numbers are the lowest.

But I muddy the waters with facts again….sorry

results   April 24th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Where are the visable results of Obama raising and spending so much money?

All the people who attend his rallies.

All the rock and rap videos singing his praises.

All the celebrities piling on the bandwagon.

And he can not close the deal. If he is the nominee, he'll still lose in Nov.

Poeple do not love a hypocritical cheater who gloats and struts and mocks and jeers his opponent.

Betsy   April 24th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

You know, I want to put something to rest.

There are a lot of postings on these comment blogs that bring up the Paul v Clinton trial.

That is a CIVIL case. Paul is a crook. He now feels cheated because he held fundraisers for Hillary and didn't get anything in return. Hillary even gave back the funds he contributed.

Peter Paul went so far as to produce an anti-Hillary movie as political propaganda. It seems to be working on some folks.

There was a criminal investigation of the Clintons surronding Paul, however no wrong doing was ever found. Peter Paul then brought up this civil case against Bill Clinton.

You can read about this yourself on Wikipedia. Just type Peter Paul.

Please stop bringing up this CIVIL case and saying it's a criminal case. Paul v Clinton is nothing compared to the criminal trial against Obama's buddy, Rezko. You can look him up too - Tony Rezko.

James   April 24th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Barack Obama has won some big states. Missouri, Colorado, Georgia, Virginia, Illinois and he is seriously ahead in North Carolina. He can carry big swing states and can win the general election. Hillary said that in the debate. So let's get that silliness behind us.

What can keep the dems out of the White House is two things: a prolonged negative campaign that obliterates the truly positive things these candidates are bringing to the table and/or each side's supporters pulling a "Nader" if their candidate is the loser.

Super Delegates, let Barack and Hillary know: if you think you can win the nomination by ripping up the party, YOU ARE WRONG!

Peter, MN   April 24th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Clinton is causing serious problems for Democrats. If she is allowed to be the nominee, McCain will beat her hands down. If the Democrats do not want to weep from the left side of their eyes in November, they should let Clinton go home in peace.She has divided Democrat, she lied about her experience, and has been running negative adverts. The only good thing I have seen from Clinton is the she had a snipper shot on her while Bosnian were reading welcome address for her. If Clinton forgot that no one shot her in Bosnia, she will forget so many things in the White House.

Matt   April 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Obama has tried to smother Hillary's campaign by throwing money at it, and he still lost the last few primaries. Sounds awfully familiar **cough** Bush and Iraq **cough***

I like Obama, but look at the facts, he cannot close the deal and he is having a really hard time with the blue collar votes. Put Obama, an extreme liberal, up against McCain, a moderate republican and the democrats will probably lose. Obama says he can get the independent voters, but the they look down the middle, not one side or the other. To fight a moderate republican you will need a moderate democrat. And as previous people mentioned, it doesnt matter who has won what states in the primary, look at who will win what states in the GENERAL election.

Ive said before and I will say it again, whoever won Ohio, and PA will become our nominee because with a falling economy, it will be the states in that demographic that will take precedence.

Independent   April 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Susan MO - you always sign your posts "Strongely for Hillary" - please, please, please read my post, because I can't stand it anymore.

The word is spelled "STRONGLY!!!" There is no "e."

Thank you.

Michael G Ventura, CA   April 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

To those would would count Electoral College votes in April instead of November: I recommend that you "let the people's voices be heard" as you're always yelling!
Fuzzy math is putting it mildly!
Get REAL.

Rosa 61 from connecticut   April 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Hillary is not campaigning; she is throwing a temper tantrum. She needs to find acceptable ways of expressing her anger.

Richey's, Pasadena   April 24th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Hillary will lie and tell you anything you want to hear, if that makes you "feel secure". Obama will tell you how much change is going to occur, even though everyone knows that the legislative branch is more or less gridlocked because it is full of people who have sold their souls in the name of self empowerment, self enrichment and a sickness of representative nepotism that won't be changed by some novice moron with a shady background.

Get real people. Your expectations are much too high for either of these candidates. The "Billary" monster knows how to thwart the system to their own personal bidding better than any other political "team". Does that make you sleep well at night.

It'll probably never happen, but I'd sure like to see Americans that support America solidly, despite our differences.

America is an amazing nation that has done, and continues to do, so many benevolent acts for people in other countries. How about this: let's save lots of money by giving ZERO aid to any other country and just look out for ourselves. Want to see the rest of the world crying like babies then?

The Soviet Union was the reason other countrties didn't verbally attack us the way they do now. Now that that big threat has been minimized, the U.S., being the only REAL big boy on the block at this time, is the focus of those who natural human instinct is to bring down the one on top.

If and when a nuclear device explodes in this country, or possibly in Europe, you can kiss the way of life you have come to take for granted goodbye forever. The global financial world will collapse like a deck of cards.

Security for this country is everything.

Sleep Well

Stop the Drama   April 24th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

all the old-timers say Obama cannot win in high electoral states in the general…so you think all the Clintonites will run to McCain ..

.wake up people ..

The Clintonites who believe that they are the new House of Windsor in the USA and deserve to be in the WH are in for a shock…

Obama is bring in new voters and the young ones …people who are excited to vote for a good honest man ….we have the strenght and will continue to mobilise in the fall ….

the old-timers of the by-gone woodstock era can stay at home and sulk or vote for the old man who will sleep at the switch !!

Young people in America will come in droves from every crack in the Union and make a change …we are taking America from the old timers restoring to the land of hope and freedom for our children to be in a fear free positive world ……

YES WE CAN AND WE SHALL IN THE FALL ….

Go OBAMA , GO CASEY AND THANKS A BUNCH DAVID WU FOR JOINING US ……THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE COMING ON BOARD ….GOD BLESS AMERICA ..LAND OF THE FREE AND FEARLESS

Marshall in Nebraska   April 24th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Hill & Friends–Keep dreaming.

America–Wake up from this Clinton induced nightmare or wake to a Republican reality.

alice2   April 24th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

I don't see how they can go for Hillary. It is obvious she is out for HERSELF & the personal political power she will get. She wants to have a Clinton Dynasty. She is i believe a CHRONIC LIAR, & has run a HATEFUL, LIEING, DESTRUCTIVE campaign against Barack. it's her own Dem party she has been destroying. Barack has correct judgment, a new vision for America, wants to move our country ahead, we are done with the OLD POLITICS, Hillary is OLD WASHINGTON, & superdels need to follow the will of the people, otherwise why do we bother to vote, if we really don't count in the end.

American Girl   April 24th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

The media is making this about RACE.
The media is making this about Educated vs. Uneducated
I do not care, but my vote will never goi to Hillay aka The anti-christ

Mark   April 24th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Well, I have been an Obama supporter which is neither here nor there.

What I am realizing about myself is that I am truely an independent
and the DNP is really screwed up. If this election comes down to the super delegates making the decision, I'm going for the 100 years of war dispite the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are going to die. :(

Binkis1   April 24th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Wolf—
Quit pushing the clinton spin..like important states , electoral vote , and etc. You are slapping the other states and VOTERS in the face…I know you are a catholic but thought you were a jounalist!
Did someone forget to tell you and hillery that Ohio and PA went republican last time… And she is hated by 50% of democrats!.
As to your FUZZY math- that is another clinton spin…QUIT ALREADY.

GO back to being a reporter and away from political HACK.

Bitter American   April 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Who is the right person to be our president? The person who says, "Pledged delegates can and should change their mind", translating, "people's vote/will doesn't count, pick me"? I will be ashamed to have her as my president. Wont you?

Me and 14 Million   April 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

When Obama was so arrogant and cocky and dismissive to brush Hillary Clinton off his shoulders… he appealed to the Nation's children.

But to the adults he came across as NOT presidential. Those who laughed, will vote for him.

He lost my vote- brushed me right off along with Hillary.

The rest of America wil NEVER ever vote for such a boastful elitist.

Venus   April 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Some of you people kill me about states Hillary won and that we need them for the general election…

Just like Indiana - Indiana is a red-state - so please stop trying to compare Indiana to Ohio or Penn.

You need to look at the fact that Hillary and Obama are both democrats!

The other issue is 90% of the people don't vote in