April 24, 2008
Posted: 10:45 AM ET

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CNN

Watch Carville and Richardson square off on Larry King Live.

(CNN) – After weeks of verbal brawling, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and James Carville spoke for the first time on CNN’s Larry King Live Wednesday night. Richardson – now a supporter of Barack Obama – called Hillary Clinton backers like Carville ‘a dynasty’ that is ‘clinging to the throne.’

The CNN contributor defended calling Richardson a ‘Judas’ in a New York Times interview after the governor announced his endorsement of Obama.

“I said it. I was quoted accurately. I was quoted in context. I thought it was an appropriate metaphor,” Carville told King. “If it would have been the Fourth of July, I would have said ‘Benedict Arnold,’” Carville said.

Richardson called Carville’s response “typical of the reaction of Clinton supporters.”

“They feel they’re a dynasty. They’re clinging to the throne,” Richardson added.

Watch Carville and Richardson clash over whether the results in the Florida and Michigan primaries should help determine the Democratic Party’s nominee, whether Obama should agree to more debates before Indiana and North Carolina vote May 6 — and whether the primary race has become so negative it’s hurting the party’s prospects in the general election.

Filed under: Barack Obama • Bill Richardson • Hillary Clinton • Larry King Live


MikeT   April 24th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

This is a double standard. It is like when Bill said Obama was a fairy tale which is true. He's not.

Now he is attacking me and every other Hillary supporter, get over yourself Richardson.

HILLARY 08

Debbie, TX   April 24th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

All campaigns are rough & tough. If you think Hillary is being tough on Obama, just wait and see what the Republicans and their minions do to him if he gets the nomination. Unfortunately, he's like all of us, he's human and has some skeletons that the Republicans are going to use against him. The Repbulicans wrote the book on dirty tricks and smear tactics. Look what they did to McCain in his race against W. And he was a Repblican. This campaign stuff ain't nothing compared to the pressures you must overcome when you are the President. Besides, if you are not smart enough to see through campaign BS, you don't need to be voting. Quit whining and get on with it.

Cory   April 24th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

All of this is really making me lose complete and utter faith in America as a society. The sheer idiocy and manpower that steers individuals like George W. Bush and Hilary Clinton towards the White House is completely overwhelming. The lies, the spinning, all of it.

The audacity of hope, indeed.

Joanne   April 24th, 2008 1:39 pm ET

What a shame. Richardson is so bitter no pun intended. Obviously, he dislikes the Clintons for personal reasons and this is not a reason to hurt Hillary or to humiliate her in this way. Obama and Richardson are both very arrogant. He is angry but Hillary was not the {PRESIDENT) that gave him the opportunity of his lifetime. How easily they forget. What a shame. Hillary is a woman with great intellect and her own person. How dare he demean her that way. I think the media is doing this adequately.

Friends like him they do not need enemies. Jamal said something last evening that was very disturbing. He could not get over how angry the Black people were towards the Clinton's during his Radio call-in. This tells me they are voting for Obama for all the wrong reasons.
Wow!!!!!!
Please do not say this is not voting because of RACE. It is. I hope the American people wake-up because there is good in both these people but Obama just does not get it and Hillary does. Wisdom!

Go Hill Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WH   April 24th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Who are all these young and educated supporters? Are you talking about high school students because that's who he is counting on. New young voters and anybody that will sign up and vote…..for him.

Again I ask the question because on the rallies I have seen, the people sitting behind Obama are neither young or look educated.

Quinn - PA   April 24th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
It was Okay when he was the Clinton's Court Jester!

Now he's looking for a place in the Obama kingdom!

Pragmatist, SoCal   April 24th, 2008 1:37 pm ET

The Clintons seem to have their supporters hypnotized. When Obama was campaigning on Hope and a unified NATION (vs the divisive red/blue, black/white, rich/poor, blue collar/ educated), THE CLINTONS were the first to inject race into the running. Where they didnt lead with the negativity they fueled it. When Obama FINALLY hit back - oh, NOW he is a negative campaigner. so its OK for the Clintons to be - just no one else.

They dismiss states who vote for Obama as insignificant, voters who vote for him as silly and inexperienced - dumb, they comment that they superdelegates who back him are "irrelevant and insignificant". The only time any of these count is whenever SHE benefits.

I started this process with very high regards for both her and her husband, but the longer this goes on the more my respect and admiration diminishes, buried under the pettiness alnd length to which they and their supporters, surrogates and mouthpieces are willing to go to get a nomination…..sad….

Audy   April 24th, 2008 1:36 pm ET

I think Richardson is pathetic. I have been in many a chat room and out into the community and they people who are the rudest are the Obama supporters who are claiming the whites are racist. I don't understand where he gets off with this line of attack. If a Clinton supporter says something we demonize them, but if an Obama supporter says something it's the word of God. I tell you what if there was ever more of a Bias in this country I've never seen it, and I hope after this is over everyone realizes the truth! I can't believe I am actually still in the democratic party. I will tell you one thing though… after the treatment Obama supporters have given me I don't think I will ever support him!

c   April 24th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

mike in va….they probably got their education same as everyone else,our shotty education system. been this way for years,just takes some to leave school and realize how bad and wrong it was.

Independent   April 24th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

Seriously, Carville scares the CRAP out of me. I find him even scarier than Hillary.

GG   April 24th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

I watched him on Larry King… The man (the Gov) needs help. There's no other way to describe Gov. Richardson than to say SEXIST.

Gov, this question is for you. Do you wish you could have made it this far, instaed of Hillary?

I still think you are let down..

By the way, there's no throne. People vote here.

K   April 24th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

Mike in Virginia,
Amen! I think "Urban" was left off the moniker…

Anthony-Minneapolis,MN   April 24th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

Richardson is right but I would one up him further, I believe the Clintons intend to steal the nomination or the minimum hurt Obama so badly and give Republicans ammunition against Obama. She is acting like a spoiled child how decides to take her ball home and cry because she isn't getting her way.

I believe you can no longer have a rational discussion with Hillary Clinton supporters because I believe they are to ignorant, to uneducated to understand something as complex as if you don't beat Obama in the last 10 primaries by a margin of 65% to 35% you can even get close to his numbers to say this should go to the convention.

Caledonia, NY   April 24th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

I hate Carville but I also love the guy. Richardson is a backstabber of epic proportions. Obama seems to me to be the Anti-Christ. A smooth talker that can move thousands of people to tears without saying much at all. I respect Hillary for sticking to her guns and fighting hard to win the nomination, even when people like Richardson are telling her to give it up.

Obama mama   April 24th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

Its funny to me that former members of Bill Clinton's administration are supposed to back Hillary just because. Richardson doesn't owe Hillary anything. He was appointed to a post and served Bill. That's it. Has he forever given loyalty to any Clinton that does anything? He's right– he ran against Hillary and nobody was offended. They're just mad. Maybe her feelings are hurt. I'm suprised she didn't cry before Pennsylvania like New Hampshire…

James Carville won't say why he's only upset with Richardson. There have been other Clinton defectors, but James is still so upset by Richardson. That's more interesting to me…

get real   April 24th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

Go away Judas! Has Obama offerred you the VP spot or what? Obama still couldn't win the latino vote with you on the ticket. Do you know why? I think it has something to do with Latinos being tired of Blacks accusing them of taking their jobs.

Good luck Obama winning that vote even if Richardson is on your ticket!!!

mad dem   April 24th, 2008 1:32 pm ET

I am also from Florida. When I voted in the primary, it was with the understanding that the vote would not count because my state broke the rules of the DNC. I think Florida and Michigan should not be counted. Rules are there for a reason. If you decide to break a rule, be prepared to suffer the backlash. Florida should stop being in the middle of everything and know that our state government knew the rules as well. Obama and Clinton both signed off on the rules. I think this should be a dead issue. And for all fairness Florida nor Michigan should not even want to have their votes counted. Yea, send the wrong message to the kids, if you break a rule, instead of being punished we will make exceptions. I am very disappointed in my state. Be strong and take your punishment like adults.

nord   April 24th, 2008 1:32 pm ET

Richardson is a has-been and because he is backing Obama and going against the will of the voters in New Mexico, he will not be relected next time. Keep looking for that new home in Texas cause the folks in New Mexico are about to kick your butt to the curb. .

Richardson would be washing dishes today if it wern't for the Clintons who made him what he is today. JUDAS is to kind of a word to place on him, I can think ofa lot of more appropriate adjatives to call him.

John Smith   April 24th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

I guess "folks" in small towns and states are "smarter and more educated" than folks in the BIG states!! Hillary is from NY–

NY, PA, FL, CA etc. (except TX), continue to amaze us! Just look at the "wisdom" of the smaller states– Indianna, NC, Iowa etc.– . Left to them, this madness would have been over with before now!!

shirley   April 24th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

Those people who say Senator Obama disenfranchised Florida and Michigan voters are sounding like idiots. The DNC made that decision, Hillarys said it is Obama fault, the media prints her lie and now some of you actually believe it.

ROBERT   April 24th, 2008 1:30 pm ET

I find it funny that people say that Hillary will do anything to become the first woman president. Isn't that what Obama is doing? He wants to go into the history books as the first black president. I know Michelle Obama would like to be the first black female president….why else would she pushing Obama so hard. I personally don't have anything against him. I just don't think he has what it takes. He's a junior senator with no track record behind him and I don't like the way he is playing to the black community. As I see it right now it's race against gender.

Sue   April 24th, 2008 1:30 pm ET

James Carville is a spin nut. The Clinton are be beaten by the American people not Obama, he is just driving the train for change.

bob   April 24th, 2008 1:30 pm ET

AND OBAMA ACTS LIKE HE IS ENTITLED TO BE

THE WORLD LEADER….HIS ARROGANCE IS OBVIOUS

AND ONLY 3 YEARS IN US SENATE….SCARED OF THAT!!!!

Jan in Virginia   April 24th, 2008 1:29 pm ET

Tessa,

Is that who you really are or are you a plant pretending to change your support from Clinton?

Did it ever occur to you that maybe Clinton is doing this because she believes that she is the best candidate for the party and that her supporters are encouraging her to keep on. I believe she is the better candidate. I wil never vote for Obama and there is a large percentage of the Clinton support that won't either if he gets the nomination. That's a fact if you just read the news.

She's not destroying anything and people that tell you that are just people that want her out so Obama can have it.

Carl LaFerney   April 24th, 2008 1:29 pm ET

For someone young and educated, you have no manners and no respect for anyone other than people that agree with you it appears.

I find that appaling and shame on you and your attitude.

Even at 26, I'm well aware of how social security won't be around when I retire, so I must rely on two things: myself, OR, my government to take care of me.

I choose myself everytime because I trust myself. The government is a last resort, not a first one. This is why a MAJORITY of people over 40 will not vote for Obama, because they know what his future tax plans will do to their retirement funds.

Obama may bring necessary changes needed to improve our country, but people against him feel that he can do far more harm than good to this nation. It's as simple as that.

I applaud your support, but we simply disagree. It has nothing to do with education or age or anything for that matter…

shirley   April 24th, 2008 1:28 pm ET

Governor Richardson, an honest man of integrity, is called a 'traitor' for voting his conscience instead of 'political payback' , this says a lot about the Clintons. The news media smoothed this comment over the same way they have smoothed over Hillary's support of NAFTA and the Columbian Trade Deal and Hillary saying 'screw 'em' in reference to Southern voters. That comment has been verified and yet received 1 little blurb in the news while Senator Obama's 'bitter' word in describing the feelings of some American voter's got 5 days of front page news, all negative. Guess what? I am becoming very 'bitter' about this bias reporting.

Barbara   April 24th, 2008 1:28 pm ET

That is a lot of Bull, did I hear you say the Obama campaign make negative remarks? what or who have been listening to? Clinton is a Negative person, and of all people, try to use dirt, but then, look at her background. Anyone who stays with a man, who not in his own house, but our house (The White House) have sex with an intern young enough to be his daughter, and stand up and lie to the American people is bad enough but to do sucha thing is downright
dirty, and sick and what that says to us the american people screw you, "In your face" and then have the audacity to talk about a man about his minister, not the man, and just what standards are these
Clintons trying to hold Obama to and the pitiful people that vote for them. i feel so sorry for america if that is all they can produce,I will
not vote at all

Sarah in TX   April 24th, 2008 1:28 pm ET

Obama negative? did you watch the ABC debate? How many times did he get negative vs her? did you see the last commercial Hillary put out in PA? Why not show the great accomplishments of past presidents… why show pearl harbor/osama etc.?

Clintons push the OLD button push the OLD button push the OLD button
Obama deflects and then pushes back at the end and the Clintons say "see, it's him!! no fair, whaaaa =("

Is he negative b/c of the "bitter" comments? is that it? are you even in touch with America? lots of us are bitter… old politicians haven't lifted a finger for us and we can't go anywhere in the world without being looked down upon… let alone inflation, gas prices, war etc. etc. We are bitter and optimistic that with the right president things can change - not same old politicians and politics that never changes anything.

Patty-California   April 24th, 2008 1:28 pm ET

The remaining states should have the opportunity to vote in a democratic primary for the candidate of their choice. Also, more debates between the two candidates could help those undecided voters.

NY   April 24th, 2008 1:27 pm ET

Bill Richardson is just seeking for VP position which he will never get he has missed his opportunity and as they say, Opportunity comes but once. Had it been that Obama won in PA the tune will change that he is able to win in the big states. But now that Hillary is showing that is best, better and good leadership, Obama camp is crying like a baby. After all Obama said that he is having problem with the seniors the reason is because he doesn't respect seniors and that is why he is having problems with seniors. As you all can see Obama is very arrogant and kioki towards every one unless those Black voters who thing just because he is black all black people should vote for him.

Another thing is that leaders are naturally born and some are leaders and some followers. To me I believe Obama is a follower and not a leader. He may be handsome but if your parents are mixed like him definitely he/she will be handsome/beautiful. As you all know Catholics put George Bush in the White House and for the first time Catholics voted for Hillary that to show you people she is better candidate to help the country.

Also, black people should ask themselves a question if Obama is big in black community and past leaders why wasn't him at Martin Luther King memory service? See to show his arrogancy too big to attend.
All I can say, he should look for a VP position or gather more experience before looking for the highest job in the world. No one will hire a freshman to head his/her company take Dow Jones for example they will never ever take someone with MBA to be a CEO or handle their most strategic position.

Go Hillary '08

running away   April 24th, 2008 1:27 pm ET

CNN,

Carville is right. Obama is running away from debates and a re-vote. Whatever Richardson talked didn't appeal to me as logic. Obama is scared of re-vote. He knows that he is going to loose. We don't want a president who is scared and running away from things.

Whiney   April 24th, 2008 1:27 pm ET

Ohhh, little Obama is afraid of the big bad wolfe. Hillary is making him uncomforable. Well, he has not seen anything yet if he becomes the nominee.

I do not view her ads as negative - I veiw them as part of a campaign where she is trying to win and has every right to bring up ads that will make people think about the past, present and future and who could best handle the world's problems. She is strong and he is weak.

Independent-woman-voter-for-Obama   April 24th, 2008 1:26 pm ET

Roger: The Clintons THREW THE FIRST STONES. The Obama campaign has had no other choice but to defend and attack back or risk looking like wimps. Its pathetic that attacking and destroying your opponent IS the only way to win in our country! This says a lot about how we have been influenced by the AM Radio hate-mongers. Can we rise above all the mud???

Poor James Carville, his face says it all, "I am one mean & anger dude." James, you claim to be a Catholic, a Christian. How about some grace?

PS. Roger, in South Carolina it was Bill who FIRST played the race card. Its been downhill ever since.

Eric-Illinois   April 24th, 2008 1:26 pm ET

Richardson you are so sad. "Cling to the throne?" Obama is the one who seems to fell this nomination should just be annointed on him….him being the new Messiah and all. Your disloyalty is breathtaking…I am so so very sorry I once thought of voting for you. What job did Obama and his Chicago hacks promise you to make you turn your back on experience and skills in favor of snappy speaches and feel good silliness?

Kathy   April 24th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

Thank goodness Richardson dropped out of the race!

mad dem   April 24th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

I don't want to see another debate if it is not going to focus on issues. I don't care about their personal business, such as where they worship or who they have had so called "contact" with. I want to know what each one plans to do about: Economy, Gas prices, Education(making school districts more accountable, not just testing)(college more affordable for kids who parents pay taxes), Health Care (for everyone and the price of insurance, medications), Housing( So we will not have so many Americans homeless) AND Crime( So our kids can stay safe). I have real concerns, because I have children who must grow up in this great nation. I can't even watch Ms. Clinton, because she is very negative. It was not long ago, that we defended her husband against those who wanted to impeach him because of his personal life. Did we ever get a conclusion to Whitewater? Obama has yet to come out swinging her dirt and I say good for him and staying out of the norm of politics. I think debates can only get ugly, if our dear media friends keep taking us back to things that are not important. STAY FOCUS AMERICA

TGO in CT   April 24th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

I have to commend Bill Richardson for voting the way he feels led. Personally, I think Carville was way out of line with his remarks… Just because Richarson has his own mind and is not afraid to express his choice?… Isn"t that one of our constitutional rights???
I didn't hear Bill Richardson calling names…. To me, that only shows who the more professional person was…With supporters like Carville, I can see why Hillary is behind and will never get the nomination…

BAKERSFIELD   April 24th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

RICHARDSON KNOWS HE BACK STABB THEM, ALL THEY DID TO HELP HIS POLITICAL FUTURE - HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED.

leicheco   April 24th, 2008 1:24 pm ET

How can anyone be upset because Richardson backed Obama?
Just because he worked with the Clintons at one time does not entitle the Clintons to his support. He admits that the Clintons have done alot for him, but he does not own them his pledge! Come on people this is the future of America we are talking about, maybe he knows something about the Clintons that we don't, and he just does not want the dynasty to go on. We have already had to many years of the Clintons and the Bushs. I hope that we can end it now…..has anyone noticed that HRC showes signs of being a female Bush?

Mike in Virginia   April 24th, 2008 1:24 pm ET

"The Young & Educated for Obama",

Sir/Mam,

Please, please, PLEASE tell me where you received your education. With sentence structure like yours, I would like to ensure that I do not send my children there.

Thanking you in advance,

Mike

Andrew from PA   April 24th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

Richardson has no leg to stand on. He and the Clintons go way back and for him to betray them for his own personal gain was just a back stabbing move. If he had waited to endorse, he'd be picking Hillary right now because she's making the big news. Now he's trying to get his guy back into the race, because suddenly that cabinent seat is starting to look out of reach.

Its all politics, and he's just the guy trying to get left overs from the king / queen.

CW4Barak   April 24th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

Bottom line is the only candidate running now who is fresh and new and offering something different, real change–is Obama. Clinton is not only running on her husband's record, but also for his 3rd term….McCain is running for Bushes 3rd. By the way Jeremiah Wright is a better man and American than a lot of the people who are judging him. Bill Ayers wasn't convicted of anything. Obama did nothing illegal with Rezko. Michelle Obama has a right to her feelings and comments…if its the 1st time she is proud of her country, then that's how she feels, doesn't mean that's how Obama feels….even though they are married they don't share the same brain or mind, had separate up bringings and exposure. Clinton & McCain are the real elistist…they are just great pretenders!

Jeanne   April 24th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

Clinton backers are free to make up their own minds. Richardson made his decision. Others are free to do the same. No one should be criticized for who they support.

They still need to figure out how they're going to handle Michigan & Florida. It's pretty clear that there's going to be no decisive victory for either candidate and Michigan & Florida have to be represented somehow. McCain is already using it as fodder for his campaign.

It's doubtful the DNC will ever get organized enough to make a responsible decision and the Democrats are likely to be fighting about it all the way through to the convention & beyond.

Geri   April 24th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

I thought Richardson was obnoxious and maybe a little bitter that he didn't make it. I was hoping for him or Biden but am very happy now that he dropped out..

kayla   April 24th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

i don't think Obama should have anymore debates with Hillary. all she wants to do is attack him like a pitbull like she is

RichardC   April 24th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

roger- the voters do have a choice, its called Obama vs McCain in the fall. Hillary can't win, under any circumstances, except coup by superdelegates, or Obama falls under a bus. Her campaign is trying to rationalize their continued existence, but they're just helping McCain too much. Is she an (R) now?

People are eager to get rid of Bush, but don't confuse that with with a need to vote in this primary. The primary is over, Obama won. Now people need to accept that, get behind him, and take out McCain.

Since we are where we are, I say let them vote in 2 weeks at Indiana and SC, but the superdelegates should step in after that and end it. Since Obama will only be about 180 delegates short and Clinton about 350 short, they should give it to Obama and lets be done with this.

GloriafromPA   April 24th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

I watched the entire show last night and found Richardson to be on point, while Carville was clearly desperate for Hillary. Seems, now, the person who wins IN should be the nominee. I thought we were just going to disenfranchise all the caucus states from the popular count, and include the two states who lost the privelege to be counted in the process. Yes, that sound fair, in a Clintoneque sort of way. We will be a strong party after Hillary has finally given her concesion speach. We will hear from all the states - then it's buh-bye Hillary.

Very Disappointing   April 24th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

I used to like this guy….he seems backwards. Funny how he says he will support him, but calls his supporters names. Weird and contrasting. Just polarizing at the best with much spin.

Robert in Albuquerque   April 24th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

Being a voter in NM I have to say if it wasn't for that Clinton dynasty, you Mr. Richardson wouldn't be where you are today. You've lost my vote and more over, my respect.

George   April 24th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

Carville is a spin doctor, a good one, but those who spin the "truth" are what is wrong with our politcal system. Politicians usually don't say what they mean and rarely come out with a straight forward answer. I think Richardson won this round as he came over as being more sincere. I think the fact that Hillary's camp, Carville being the talking head for it, want Michigan and Florida to count only because they won. Obama wasn't even on the ballot and didn't campaign there. If Clinton had loss those states I think she would be speaking another tune. I think Obama should be the nominee with Hillary right there as VP. Then if she does a good job as VP, then she can be President as she would then have experience. Stop the phony talk and negative bashing and unite the country not just the Dem. party.

Dylan   April 24th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

Well said, Gov. Richardson. So glad you picked the right candidate to represent your party.

I have lost all respect for Mr. Carville.

Ignore Carville 2008   April 24th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

Why can't Jimmy just go off quietly into the sunset? His relevence card was played about 10 years ago. He doesn't have any others.

Eye Opener - Las Vegas   April 24th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

I am baffled by the comments of Governor Richardson alluding to the Clintons with words like "Dynasty" and "Throne".

In all seriousness, does the governor hate the Clintons so much that he denigrates Senator Clinton's quest for the presidency as monarchial and dynastic? While the governor is entitled to his opinion that Senator Obama is the better candidate for him, it is hypocritical for him that his decision to support Senator Obama was brought about by the negativity of the Clinton campaign. As a politician himself, he is well aware that political campaigning is a contact sport and negativity as well as distortion of facts are on both sides. ALL politician/candidates, Governor Richardson included, do what they must to earn votes and win - this is a fact.

Governor Richardson should stick to his own advice that people should choose their next president based on facts and solutions being offered by the candidates and more importantly, who is best qualified to lead the country and steer it in the right direction - not on negative campaigning and accusing your opponent of monarchial and dynastic ambitions.

Garret, Los Angeles   April 24th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

We are not clinging to the throne. We are voting for the best candidate. We have had enough of change. We changed from paying $2.35 cents per gallon of gas to $3.97 cents. That's enough change for me.

Hillary 2008 and 2012.

Voter for Hillary   April 24th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

Um, young and educated–that wasn't Hhillary's campaign that put up that picture of obama in a turban–it was an independent group. Hillary actually condemmed it.

Obama is the one that made the "bitter" and "clinging" to guns comments. It was not broke by the Clinton campaign, but by a person in the media who happened to be in the audience.

dabrain   April 24th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

Richardson is not "bitter" towards the Clintons. That's a foolish comment. They appointed him because of his credentials. He is free to support whosoever he wants to support!!!! He is an American and enjoys the same rights as everyone else. Moreover, Barack Obama was responsible (and everyone knows that) for registering many new voters (especially in the African American community) in Illinois when he was a community organizer, so that Bill Clinton could go on to win the state. So would you say then, that the Clintons owe Obama as well? And “Roger,” no one is saying that the States that have not had their primary should not!! Each camp agrees on that. Carville was insinuating that the Obama camp doesn't want those primaries to happen! That was pure spin! — and you bought it because of your bias!!! And if you were paying close attention to the campaign you would realize that 90% of Obama's responses were to refute the negative attacks by the Clintons. The backlash that would happen if a black man (Obama) offends or is a bit rough with a white woman (Hillary) would cause some loss of the white vote (remember New Hampshire). I think that he has been pretty composed in the way he has responded even at debates. I don't know if I would have been the same since I have no patience for nonsense. I would have called it just that like I am calling your comments!! NONSENSE!

Gloria   April 24th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

My opinion of Governor Richardson has surely changed after hearing his remarks. Carville shouldn't have called him a Judas during the Easter season. We don't have Kings or Queens in our country, Governor although George Bush has been acting like a king during his administration. Does Richardson want to exclude Michigan and Florida from the General Election also? The people in these two states want their votes counted as they should be. Obama wasn't on the Ballot in Michigan by his own choice, he had his name removed, he didn't have to do that. I still believe in Government OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people. ALL the people, not just SOME of the people.

Olga, CA   April 24th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

People,

Let everybody know what you think. Otherwise, the Clinton campaign is going to steal the nomination. Way to go, governor Richardson! One decent person!

Rebecca   April 24th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

What does the United States call other countries who change their rules in the middle of an election to favor a particular canidate. Corrupt. That is exactly what Hillary Clinton and her team want to do. Change the rules in the middle of an election. According to the official rules this election is finished and Obama is the winner. Therefore, no more need for another debate so they can team up on Obama 3 to 1 again.

I know Hillary won't quit until she is knocked out all the way, so Obama please knock her out. Give her a good solid knock out punch that lands her sprawling on the ground. Then give her a couple of good kicks to make sure she doesn't get back up. We're getting sick of her and her buddies nasty mouths.

Jen in PA   April 24th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

“You think those parking spaces off the West Wing are yours, but they belong to the American people, and you have to earn the right to use them.”

~Bill Clinton, "My Life", in response to the Republicans telling him not to run in 1992.

Oh, the irony…

Fay (the Young Texan who voted for Obama)   April 24th, 2008 1:18 pm ET

Richardson is only bitter against the Clintons because they threw him under the bus when he didn't bow down to King and Queen Clinton. Like I said the other day (and I still believe), you have to be smoking serious hash to vote for that woman. I'm 23 and all my friends agree on one thing. If she somehow nickels and dimes her way to the general election, she's lost most of the African American and young vote. Where will that leave her? Hmmmm….

cc, Chicago   April 24th, 2008 1:17 pm ET

This is alot of smoke. The negative campaigning was initiated by the Clinton camp and the Obama camp while being negative at times has been more reactionary in that they responded to negative attacks by Clinton. It's part of their stated strategy to trap Obama in his high road pledge.

Frankly, right now all 3 candidates are disappointing. They had 6 weeks before the Pennsylvania primary to go to Washington and do some work. Don't tell us what you would do as President. You are a sitting senator. Why not prove it by proposing legislation? It's not like any of the candidates are state Governor's and therefore outside Washington's legislature and can only talk in theory. How bad would HRC look if Obama answered her negative attacks with legislation to deal with the economic issues we're facing? And how much would HRC enforce her "ready on Day 1″ argument if she proposed legislation rather than negatively attacking Obama? For McCain, he's got a golden opportunity to be seen doing something by proposing legislation while the democrats beat each other up. They all talk about change. It's time they start walking the walk.

AMG   April 24th, 2008 1:17 pm ET

Excellent points Carville. Richardson looked stupid and without valid arguments that is why he resorted to talk about "dynasties". He is truly a Judas.

Who Let Carville Out   April 24th, 2008 1:16 pm ET

Carville and his Judas remarks need to crawl back under that rock he slithered out from. Richardson is a man of honor and character who had the guts to stand up to the Clintons and he cerrtainly didn't deserve that comment.

Hillary is running around saying that the PLEDGED DELEGATES are not bound to anyone now and trying to get them to go against the popular vote she so desperately is trying to claim. We know that Super Delegates have latitude…that is unless you go against the Clintons.

Annamica, OH   April 24th, 2008 1:16 pm ET

Richardson is vying for a spot in the cabinet again…he will do whatever it takes, even if it means saying such hateful things about the people who helped him. There is no loyalty in politics, and Richardson is a prime example. Obama is still party to "the politics of the past" as he puts it.

John, Brooklyn, NY   April 24th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

If the Clinton campaign is genuine in saying that both Barak and Hillary are strong, viable candidates and that, at the end of the day, it is both side's highest priority that a Democrat win in November, then Richardson's decision to support Obama certainly doesn't rise to the scale of "betrayal" that Carville has portrayed.

This kind of you're-either-with-me-or-against-me rhetoric from the Clinton camp exactly reflects the kind of divisive, partisan, angry, and mean-spirited politics that the American people are tired of. James Carville, Geraldine Ferraro, Robert Johnson (to name just a few) - through both their absurdly hostile statements and their brittle defensiveness - help DEFINE the kind of politics that Obama pledged to bring to an end.

Alonzo Demetrius   April 24th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

Wow! When Carville gets mad, watch out!

Texas Guy   April 24th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

I saw this….and Carville epitomizes what the Clintons stand for: An old politics built on chameleon-like rhetoric and win at any costs.

Even the Republican McCain has run a more decent/fair campaign.

akaDoug   April 24th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

Richardson is right! The Clinton's are acting like they deserve this nomination, instead of trying to earn it! Clinging to the throne is such a perfect line! God Bless people like Richardson that have the courage to look outside the system and pick who they feel is best qualified, instead of blindly following the status quo!

End the drama, vote Obama!

JUNIOR   April 24th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

RICHARDSON IS RIGHT! I RESPECT HIM FOR STANDINDING FOR THE RIGHT THINGS AND ISSUES.AND NOT JUST STICK TO THE CLINTONS BECAUSE HE WORKED WITH THEM.TIME HAS CHANGED,SO HAS CHOICES OF WHAT CAN IMPROVE THE SITUATION IN AMERICA!HE KNOWS HOW OLD WASHINGTON POLITICS WITH THIER LOBBYST WORK.SO HE CHOSE A SMARTER AND DELIGENT CANDIDATE ON BEHALF OF AMERICA! NOW ARE NEW APPROACHES NOT OLD GAME!!!

Venus   April 24th, 2008 1:14 pm ET

YES! Hillary - take Carville and Bill and pack it up! This is over!

Hillary you needed to win Penn-State by 64%! And, now to stay in this race you will need to win the rest of the states by 68% and you need a lot of money!

So much for you clinging to throne! I bet you feel bitter now!

Carville needs a cave to live in! He was NASTY toward Richardson on Larry King!

Welcome Mr. President Obama!!!!!!!!!!

Brian (in PA)   April 24th, 2008 1:14 pm ET

Sounds like sour grapes from Richardson.

Felly   April 24th, 2008 1:14 pm ET

The Clintons are polarizing. No more Bush-Clinton, Bush-Clinton dynasty, period.

Obama Voter 08   April 24th, 2008 1:14 pm ET

Most of the old Clinton regime have turned against them big time. Doesn't anybody bother to ask why? There has got to be a reason why they are all jumping ship, they are not all crazy or 'Judas's' as that hillbilly Carville makes them seem. Maybe like most of america they know the Clintons and don't like their evil ways.

Steve in California   April 24th, 2008 1:13 pm ET

Carrville's counter to Richardson's "throne" comment was correct. People are voting in an election. No one is clinging to a throne. Why did Obama suppress the Florida/Michigan revote? We're a democracy. Many Democrats will not recognize the legitimacy of an Obama nomination without a valid vote in Florida and Michigan.

Rj   April 24th, 2008 1:13 pm ET

Carville is absolutely right! There are many Judas in the Democratic Party nowadays… They should all be hanged!

These so called LEADERS that should set good example of loyalty to their constituents are Blatantly betraying them. SHAME ON THEM!!!

These Elders are asking their supporters to support them but have different standard in supporting their constituents. SHAME ON YOU!!!

DNC Traitors & Judases:(Voted against the will of their Constituents)
Ted Kennedy
John Kerry
Nancy Pelosi
Bill Richardson
Gov. Henry

***Will you join them????*** SHAME ON THEM!!!

Getting tired of this   April 24th, 2008 1:13 pm ET

I saw the show too and had an entirely different view of it. I thought Carville came across like a school child and Richardson came across as a senior political leader who resents the Clinton view that they somehow own him just because they once gave him a job.

And his comments that the Clintons are trying to hold on to the throne is very much in line with what many many people believe. HRC's air of entitlement from the beginning of this campaign has been palpable. It found its manifestation in her decision to ignore small states, her contention that the race would be over by Feb 5, and her spending habits, which were pegged to the "close this out early" arrogance. And it is a big reason why she is losing now.

rose, texas   April 24th, 2008 1:12 pm ET

people like richardson r traders. if he had made it in the race i know i would not b voting 4 him. the only reason that he endoresed obama is because he thinks he will b one of the cabinet members. that is why hillary has 2 win .. go hillary go…….

bigben   April 24th, 2008 1:11 pm ET

He is mad because his endorsement meant nothing

katharyn   April 24th, 2008 1:10 pm ET

I feel that Richardson was right stating that Clintons are like "dynasty" and I believe that most ( maybe not all people) who support Hillary are supporting her because they are too afraid of losing their jobs or status…or because they feel that they "owe" her allegance.

Joseph Adewole   April 24th, 2008 1:10 pm ET

I wonder why Clinton supporters are like the Clintons; Richardson has done the right thing, some of Clinton supporters don't even have conscience..think of what is right and do it not looking unto anyone to make up your own mind.

Mike   April 24th, 2008 1:09 pm ET

What ever one has to be thinking about right know is why are conservatives supporting clintons? Next why are the clintons running a campaign that is inline with what the GOP runs? Who is for the people I am tried of hearing that the clintons help someone out so that person most back the clintons. I am joining a big percentage of Americans that if the clintons get the nomination without leading in states, votes, and delegates, its republican all the way. Michigan and Florida broke the rules lets show the younger generation that if you brake the rules you get punished plus Michigan did not have everyone on the ballot and still the clintons could not win big.

Thomas   April 24th, 2008 1:09 pm ET

Puh-leeze.

Carville is a paid mouthpiece who has been riding the Clinton coattails since 1990, when Bill started his run for the presidency.

Richardson is a man who has earned his own way in this world. Yes, Clinton appointed him to positions but it was on his own merit.
Bill Clinton did not make Bill Richardson the man he is. He did it all on his own.

Richardson has ever right to be bitter towards the Clintons for the way they have acted. They acted like they were entitled to and owned his vote and endorsement.

Ernest   April 24th, 2008 1:09 pm ET

Roger and Toronto girl, I think that you are missing the point. We are talking about the future and not the past. Gov. Richardson is right and an honest man.

Shawn   April 24th, 2008 1:09 pm ET

Richardson has shot himself in the foot. It's not nice to play so nice with the Clintons all these years and then stab them in the back. So much for loyalty.

Marc   April 24th, 2008 1:08 pm ET

It must eat up Richardson inside to know that his lame endorsement didn't help Obama at all in PA. In reality, all he did was alienate himself from the hispanic community.

tonybama   April 24th, 2008 1:08 pm ET

Carville`s response is typical of the Clinton camp, extreme bitterness toward anyone who doesn't support them. So many Clinton supporters are so hateful of Obama. if you really think about it, whats to hate about him. His views are pretty similar on most issues to hers. Most of his negative campaigning is in response to hers, and the Clintons have repeatedly said that negative campaigning is a necessary part of politics. Maybe someone from their side can fill me in as to the reason for this intense hatred.

I see it from the Obama side as well, but its been after the kitchen sink strategy and Tanya Harding strategy were implemented, and doesn't seem as widespread.

By the way, is Hillary going to denounce the latest North Carolina Republican attack ad. If not, this should cause her great harm within her own party. You can't keep trying to run as a Republican.

Toronto Guy   April 24th, 2008 1:08 pm ET

Richardson's is doing the right thing in helping the coutry instead of helping a family. He knows that Obama is the better candidate and the better candidate should win! thats the criteria. you should not vote for the candidate that helped you in the past.

Betty   April 24th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

One thing I noticed when watching this last night was that yes Bill R is very bitter toward the Clintons and that he was extremely nrveous he kept moving around in his chair biting at the corner of his lip eyes were blinking 60 miles an hour
He was not comfortable in his appearance at all
He supported BO oh well but why does he feel the need to go out and bash the Clintons every chance he gets??
Is that considered negative?
Bill R refused to respond to why BO refuses the revote in Mich and FL when people had offered to pay for it
Of course he did have to say why should BO do a debate after he was attacked at the last one OMG
He is concerned that BO will fall on his face the way he did the last time
BO has him by the neck and it shows
All the print of Hillary attacking Hillary going neg has any body seen the clips of his stumps or the ads he puts out or is it racist to comment on BOs negativity?
I thought at one time Bill R was an ok guy but after the last few weeks -He is just a pansy little creep
Does Bill R get it that when Bo bashes Bill Cs years in office he is bashing him as well??
Bill R keeps pounding on his years of service well according to BO they werent worth any thing!
So BO thinks Bill R is as dumb as the rest of us typical white people

ajks   April 24th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

Carville has stated before that "the Michigan and Florida votes not being counted is like stopping a ballgame in the third quarter." I say that when everybody knows the rules before the ballgame starts you do not change the rules after three-quarters of a game. He seems to think Clinton deserves the nomination as "her" right–no matter how many rules they have to change.

Ed in GA   April 24th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

I feel that the Clintons was helped more by the Richardson cabinet appointment since he helped them cultivate and solidify a Latino base that Hillary is still enjoying now. The thought of him owing them something is laughable to the highest decible.

Steven   April 24th, 2008 1:07 pm ET

Having seen this show, I was disgusted with Richardson. He is obviously personally very angry at the Clintons, and this anger is clouding his judgment about what is best for the country. He sounds like a child who is going to take his toys and go home. Very disappointing.

Tim   April 24th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

Obviously growing facial hair makes one loose their intellect.

Stacy G.   April 24th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

In Your Dreams, Toronto Girl! I saw this episode as well, and Governor Richardson is NOT AT ALL BITTER. The Clintons, as well as their supporters, including James Carville, who is an idiot! are the one's who are bitter!

Governor Richardson owes nothing to the Clintons, every position he held with that administration, HE EARNED! He did a great job in the process. No one owes anything to their employers, past or present other than to do the job, they are being paid to do!

There are also numerous other people working in Senator Obama's campagn who were with the Clinton Administration as well, so that should tell you something about the Clintons. Or perhaps you have been under sniper fire, with Hillary Clinton, in her delusionary world as well!

I say Bravo!, to Governor Richardson for taking a stand for a candidate and a movement he sincerely believes in, as well as all the other elected officials who have come out in endorsement, and support of Senator Obama.

Bill   April 24th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

Carville represents the dark side of American politics. In 1996, when Bob Dole, a man who had volunteered for combat when he could have gotten a deferment and then was nearly blown in half trying to rescue a fallen comrade, challenged then First Lady Hillary Clinton's notion that "it takes a village" to raise a child, Carville called him a liar.

Now Carville pointedly ignores white and African American Democratic leaders supporting Senator Obama and kicks the most prominent Latino politician in America to the curb. I guess the Clinton campaign wasn't content with alienating African Americans.

kayla   April 24th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

atleast he's not a puppet to the clinton's like carville

Darlene   April 24th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

I felt Richardson's sincerity in why he endorsed Obama. I think in the beginning didn't think Hillary would be a bad President he just thought Obama would be better to bring about the famous "CHANGE". However, Richardson has now been bashed for his decision to join Obama almost as much as Obama has for Rev. Wright, which I could tell was starting to leave that bad sour Clinton taste in his mouth.

Very eloquently he pointed out that some like Carville are more interested in the Clintons taking over the party again than the actually Presidency or the good of the Democratic Party.

It is all about the Clintons and their faithful followers and their attitude of entitlement at all cost.

Cynthia   April 24th, 2008 1:06 pm ET

Bill Richardson said in the interview on Larry King Live that all states should be able to vote. I do believe that the negativity is dividing the Democratic party. One important thing that was said in the Presidential race when Bill Richardson was still a candidate - that all candidates had agreed that Michigan and FLorida would not be counted because they did not follow the rules set by the DNC.

Info   April 24th, 2008 1:05 pm ET

Carville is a bitter old man

Dave, California   April 24th, 2008 1:05 pm ET

You know things are bad for the party when democrats start insulting and abandoning Bill Clinton's presidency. Interesting how it took another democrat for them to see what the republicans knew all along.

Tim   April 24th, 2008 1:05 pm ET

I think it was Richardson who once said "since when was it so bad for someone to have experience". Seems he doesn't really do what he means. I used to have a lot more respect…but like many of the elders in this party they think to highly of themselves. I'm a supporter of Clinton's not because I want a dynasty, but after listening to the input from her and Obama, I really believe she has the experience to do a great job. Obama gives great speeches…period.

Tex-gal   April 24th, 2008 1:05 pm ET

I believe Bill Richardson is not in tune with Democrats, we all have a different view of who we support and why. We can judge a candidate by his/her merits, actions, and policies, each one is advocating.

I support Hillary Clinton for president of the U.S. and I do not want to be influenced by Richardson, any super delegate, or the DNC. I was listening to one of Obama's campaign speeches and I clearly heard him say "I believe in some form of evolution". Pure existence is actuality, it can not be modified, a person is perfect in actuality. This country was established under the Judeo-Christian believes. You either believe in God, or you do not. I know this is a country of immigrants composed of many religions and believes,but when I heard this, I was completely astound. I will not vote for Obama. He would be a danger to this country.

Danny   April 24th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

Carville you are right take on. Look Richardson support Obama but he said Obama not going to win that's flip-flop like Obama and Kerry. McCain is Bush third term bad McCain better than Bush this is flip-flop
Mr. Obama and this is not a President of the United States. He doesn't place his hand over his heart in the presence of American flag this is not
a President of the United States people.

Hillary 08 President.

dwho   April 24th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

Bill Richardson is right Hillary Clinton backers like Carville, 'a dynasty' that is 'clinging to the throne'.

America's form of government is a Demoncratic system. Every American has a free will regardless of affiliations to vote for a CANDIDATE who he/she determined is capable to run this country.

But lame supporters like Carville think the White House is a throne that belongs to either the Clintons and Bush's familes or that should be owned by such families.

Such supporters tend to believe that the government should be OF THE BUSH'S FAMILY, BY THE CLINTONS' FAMILY AND FOR THE CLINTONS AND BUSH'S FAMILIES.

Such supporters think that every one should pay homage to the Clintons and Bush's families by saying HAIL THE KING'S FAMILIES or VOTE for the Royal FAMILies. A person who will not hail or vote for the royal families will be denigrated or ostracized

With such belief system the American people are just followers of the royal families in the eyes of such lame supporters.

Maria   April 24th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

Governor Richardson enforce the latino stereotype of "oportunismo"; he kept the nation in "suspense" while deciding which candidate was better for HIM, his career and political future.. going against his constituency and the interest of the latino community as a whole, that he as one of their leader should have always represented. The diversity of the latino community is their strenght and so far a majority has been united behind the candidacy of Sen. Clinton that better represents their concrete interests and also knows the socio-economic aspects of the countries of origin of latinos/as.
Latinos have a unique opportunity in this election to embrace the interesting moment in history to support a capable women as the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, "Less developed" latin-american countries have done it: Argentina, Chile, as well as important countries such as Germany.
What matters to latinos more than an “abstract change” is how the concrete programs offered by the candidates will impact their lives as part of an important minority group in the USA.

richard - Minneapolis   April 24th, 2008 1:04 pm ET

If you ever wanted to see a characterization of the race between Clinton and Obama, last night's "debate" between Carville and Richardson was it! James Carville, while declaring that he'd support Obama if he became the nominee, was steadily tearing Obama down, making pejorative comments about Bill Richardson, and demanding that FL's and MI's illegal votes be counted so his candidate, Hillary Clinton, could be declared the nominee. James Carville was arrogant and condescending, ranting, holding to the crazy point that the candidates should hold more and more debates (as if 21 aren't enough!) and refused to retract his "Judas" comments about Bill Richardson. (He declined to say why he refused to indict Robert Reich, another Clinton's Secretary of Labor, who also chooses to support Obama.)

Bill Richardson was civil, consistent and showed great integrity. He stated the obvious - that Hillary and Bill feel entitled and will pull (have pulled) every trick in the book to have their way at the peril of the whole democratic party.

Last night, James Carville epitomized Hillary Clinton's campaign: angry, demanding, condescending. Bill Richardson, fortunately, was the Obama image. I like Bill Richardson!

Obama '08!

Mat   April 24th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Clinton makes the argument that Super Delegates should make their own choice, not on the popular vote. But when one of these SD makes a choice on who he or she thinks is best against their state and not for Clinton - her campaign freaks out!! It's one rule for her and another for others.

Carville is blowing smoke and spining crap. If Obama wins NC or IN then it's over - there is no way she can come back - I'm so sick of the Clinton campaign!!

Paris   April 24th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Great show, Carville is right.
It is the primaries and candidates still need to EARN people’s votes.
They must answer more and more questions and have debates.
Wanting the debates to stop and call out the nominee when people are still Voting is more like “Clinging to the throne”!

Lee WV   April 24th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Clinton is clinging to the experience issue and electability issues.No president that has ever been elected to a first term has had experience.First lady (or Second )whichever the case is is not experience.It's an insult to my intelligence to try to tell me that because 10% of voters or less in the so called big states liked her better than him that he cannot take the 45% that did and build on that and win these states against McCain.Richardson made a wise choice and many others to come will.Carville can vote McCain if he wants.

wonder   April 24th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

I watched the show too. Richardson was so anxious to talk and interrupted Carville a lot. I feel he's really in pain to face Carville. Why he cannot relax a little bitWhat Carville said is reasonable to me.

John WA   April 24th, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Richardson is a wise man. He served the President well. He owes nothing to the former presidents wife. In primaries all the states usually don't vote.Some people seem to not know the difference between a primary and a general election. Also, to say that a person would not win a state in the general because they lost the primary is not a valid arguement-especially if the results were close. Hillary is playing people for fools. She is very aware of how she spins this. Why do you think so many people that have known her for years are backing Obama?

TOOTIE   April 24th, 2008 1:01 pm ET

Richardson is a Judas, with friends like him who needs enimies?

Klaus from Vancouver   April 24th, 2008 1:00 pm ET

Enough of the debates! It's getting silly and trivial. Obama was right about the ABC debate. It took 45 minutes before actual issues important to country were discussed. He even decided not to go after Clinton on embelishing her heroism in Bosnia. He wants to take the high road. He wanted to disdcuss issues effecting the average American citizen and not lapel pins and gafs.

In the Presidential race, we'll be lucky to see four debates. So why should their be another in the Democratic primary, where we have already seen 20+/-? Because Clinton is looking for free advertisement and she is behind in the race. Her campaign is also broke. Hillary also likes to twist the knife into Obama on trivial issues and pretends she's Annie Oakley. Obama has had enough of that type of negative / destructive campaigning and will now go directly to the voters and state his platform. That's how it should be this point foward.

Kent from TX   April 24th, 2008 1:00 pm ET

This race really is not that close. When was the last time Clinton won a state by >20%?

But more than that, how many Republicans is Hillary going to align herself with in her desperate attempt to get the White House. There's a reason why Governor Crist (R) in Florida is fighting so hard for the Democratic primary votes to count. It's because the Republicans know Hillary Clinton is MUCH easier for McCain to beat.

People hate Hillary. Rush Limbaugh and Fox News can't wait to make her the foil.

DAN   April 24th, 2008 1:00 pm ET

What a traitor Richardson is, You hear these people say how close these two candidates are on everything so why wouldn't you support your friends who basically helped make who you are. Humans build alliances and friendship all through life which is why loyalty means something. How well would we know Richardson if it wasn't for president Clinton, not much if not at all. Carville was right on the money as Richardsons face was twitching, Carville put him to the test about Obama trying to run from everything, disenfranchise millions of voters by refusing a revote in MI and FL and not debating Hillary in N.C. these are serious matters and if you run from these issues you can't be the president of the most powerful country in the world. Hillary or McCain that's all it comes down to in the end.

@americans   April 24th, 2008 12:59 pm ET

who is not going to be bitter towards the clintons. calling someone a judas is just despicable; who is jesus in this context? Hillary!

americans dont think so!

A Citizen   April 24th, 2008 12:59 pm ET

I watched this program and it is obvious that Richardson is still in "campaign"mode. He repeated the same things he repeated mercilessly during the campaign and debates. He needs some new material. Additionally, I believe he did make false representations regarding his endosement. I have the utmost respect for Carville. I think he can be a character, and he is a bit eccentric, however, I did contact his office directly, at the beginning of this campaign. This primary has been railroaded by the powers that be in the DNC and the media and the Obama campaign. I ttrust Carville's honesty and straight shooting. He tells it like it is, and he has nothing to gain one way or the other. Richardson on the other hand has much to gain….and nothing to lose. I do not believe Hillary is running for President to continue a dynasty…I believe she is running for President because she loves our country, is ambitious, and would like to make a real difference. Additionally, I do not believe she has been unduly negative in this campaign. She has drawn comparisons and contrasts, and speaks up for herslf. Nothing wrong with that. We are electing the next President of the United States for goodness sake….a little bcakbone is needed for the job!

Jesse   April 24th, 2008 12:58 pm ET

The only reason why this campaign isn't going negative is because Obama's trying to run a positive campaign. Hillary's been the one going negative and on the attack. if Obama did stooped to her level, the story would be very different and it would be politics as usual.

Anne   April 24th, 2008 12:58 pm ET

I watched the show. An extremely amusing exchange. Carville's right of course - Let the people vote!

John J   April 24th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

I think Carville makes sense. Why they did not count the voters of Florida and Michigan? Regardless of the bureaucratic rule by DNC boss, votes casted by the voters onstitute support of voters. Clinton may not have the delegation counts per the Big party rule, but she certainly has the support of larger population of voters. How would you think that you can win without Florida and Michigan? What Obama is afraid of for the re-vote? He knew he was going to lose those states.

Kevin   April 24th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

I also watched this show and noted some other key things:

- As a Clinton supporter, Carville was obviously trying to find ways to bait Obama into a debate. However post ABC, Obama will be much more aware of the efforts to tarnish his campaign.
- Carville "quoted" Obama repeatedly changing subtly each time to finally conclude that Obama had stated Indiana will be the tie-breaker and whoever wins the state should get the nomination. lol, Unbelievable spin!
- Richardson stated clearly that Obama is thus far favored and sooner rather than later the party should rally behind a candidate rather than utilize negative attacks. He did not state Hilary should concede or that the remaining states should not count.

I'm sorry but Richardon did well to temper his comments despite the snipings and mis-statements of Carville. It was evident that the debate was merely a forum to provoke Richardson and an effort to get Obama to answer the calls to debate.

Helen   April 24th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

As a person who likes Governor Richardson, I was surprised that he supported Obama over Clinton. My perception of Obama is that he should have waited until he had more experience to run for President. Had he done this, we would not be in the pickle we are in right now and Clinton would already have been nominated. I personally don't think he can win in November.

Obama 08   April 24th, 2008 12:56 pm ET

Richardson is right and all he was saying was that the negative campaign needs to stop.

carol   April 24th, 2008 12:56 pm ET

These comments are a JOKE!

Paid Clinton bloggers, must be…

Supers should have loyalty to their COUNTRY not the Clintons!

What is best for the COUNTRY?

And it ain't slick Willie!

lym   April 24th, 2008 12:55 pm ET

I watched the show as well, and though Richardson made very good points. Obama has tried to stay positive…it is Hillary who is very negative time after time. I dont think Richardson is bitter at all. He knows how the Clintons operate, and apparently have brain washed both Roger & Toronto Girl.

Darryl   April 24th, 2008 12:54 pm ET

i saw this show and Richardson is very bitter toward the Clintons who help him .
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You mean USED him.

Obama 08

Current Democratic Delegate- & ex-Obama supporter   April 24th, 2008 12:54 pm ET

Just like Richardson (who I used to respect) is Just another pathetic "BANDWAGON" politician. They swing with the wind and are betting on the "hope" of an Obama win and then a little "payback" to help them get re-elected. Richardson's endorsement speech was a pathetic display of reading something that was obviously written, or heavily re-written, by Obama. It was sickening to see him spend the first 2-3 minutes talking about how Obama's most recent "SPEECH" was what turned him. Gee, I guess I would expect someone to endorse based on "ISSUES" rather than "SPEECHES"… Apparently he's no more immune to the pied piper than many other Americans. It's really sad to see…

–> As a former Obama supporter (and current Democratic Delegate) I'm amazed that so many people are blind to one of the worst dbl standards that has gone on this yr. I guarantee that if Hillary had been going to a church for the past 2yrs that had been "preaching" divisiveness and hateful (anti-Black) concepts she would be "OUT" of this race and most likely "OUT" of politics. You would have seen people like Al Sharpton leading the charge to remove her from office… Obama has over "20 YEARS" with Wright being his "spiritual advisor". He was married and had his children baptized by him. So where's the outcry to remove Obama from politics???… Where’s Al Sharpton???

I couldn't care less about a persons particular church beliefs (catholic, Mormon, atheist, etc.. ) but the hateful and divisive beliefs/comments that Obama chose to remain around speaks volumes about his “judgement”, “character”, and true beliefs in regard to “unity”…

Again, what would have happened if the situation had been reversed and it was a white "preacher" spitting out black hatred… Answer: Hillary would be history. The same should apply to Obama.

–>I prefer someone who "embellishes" something (sniper fire) to someone who "lies" about being around hateful/divisive preaching for 20yrs until called out on it and then "admits" that "yes" he did see it and he "CHOSE" to continue showing his support to such thoughts by remaining their and having that person (Wright) marry him and baptize his kids. You can't talk about "Judgement and Character" without giving that a lot of weight… A lot of weight…

Clinton or McCain in 08.

Kim, Kansas City   April 24th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

I watched this last night and came to the conclusion that Bill Richardson may love his country more than his loyalty to the Clintons but I also think He loves himself more than his country. I think the only reason he endorsed Obama was for his own Political gain. He saw the momentum leaning toward Obama and figured he could further his political career by siding with who he thought would be the nominee.I hope his true colors show and that Obama should watch who he surrounds himself with if he is the nominee, they just might turn on him also.

roslyn   April 24th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

I think richardson is very bitter towards hillary, and sometimes i wonder why, obama run negative ads towards hillary, as soon as she strikes back, it is too negative or is racial, i am getting sick of this, i am a black woman, and it got to the point now, if obama wins, i'm not even bothering to vote…

Fred up north   April 24th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Carville , repeat theese words : President Obama! President Obama! President Obama! President Obama! President Obama!!!!!!!

Drew   April 24th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Well her tiara is about to topple.

Ron, Las Vegas   April 24th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Just goes to show you that the Clinton's and some of their supporters are no better than Bush. I applaud Richardson for not being another Brownie or Myers. You do what is good for the country and not what is good for an individual. I would say that Carville's blind support of the Clinton;s is an act of treason and he is the Benedict Arnold. You can not commit treason against a person, only against a nation.

Manuel TX   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Richardson is a joke.

As a Hispanic, I'm saddened that this guy is so visible.

Go back to New Mexico and prepare to lose your governorship.

:)

mary   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

If I lived in New Mexico I would never vote for Richardson. With friends like him, you don't need enemies. That guy would not be anything if it wasn't for the Clintons.

Nanc, MN   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Poor Bill did have that same dazed and confused look that Obama had at the last debate after James got done slapping him around. Call Carville anything you like, at least he doesn't get cute and try to restate what he said or meant, like others that shall remain nameless.

Phillip-Little Rock   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

I saw the show too, Toronto Girl, and it sounded to me like, just because Clinton helped him long ago, now he's supposed to be in lockstep with their style of politics. Carville is hammering about another debate, first of all, anyone who still needs to hear the issues after 20 debates is just someone that will never make up their minds and both campaigns are better off without them.

One thing you're all forgetting is, after this election, no matter who wins, we all lose. Then, people will have to go about repairing the relationships that were fractured because of the deep divisions that it caused.

Let's begin the process of unifying ourselves as a community and as a party.

Lyn   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

As usual, the high road versus the back road. Enough of this nonsense! Our young adults are learning from this process. Have we all forgotten that?

Obama Supporter in Indiana

Louis   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Last time I checked, nothing in our Constitution or Bill of Rights requires any citizen to support a specific candidate for office regardless of their personal history with that candidate. Carville supports Clinton. Richardson supports Obama. This is democracy at work. Any objections?

Kel from Auburn, AL   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Toronto Girl, I can't blame Richardson for being bitter against the Clintons. He supported the candidate he thought would be best and they called him Judas. Judas! That guy is the most historically significant traitor of all time, and they called him Judas. What a campaign of nasty people.

Dwayne in San Diego   April 24th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

All Hail to the Queen! Alas, the Emperess has no clothes! All of this is smoke and mirrors and when all the votes (legitimate) are counted and the delegates and the states won are counted, Obama will win the nomination and the Presidency and restore the democracy to its rightful place. Case Closed!

GO Obama! (a.k.a. Maximus Decimus Meridius!)

fr: Canada   April 24th, 2008 12:51 pm ET

You can sure tell James Carville has worked with the Clintons ,he is crying and whinning about Michican and Florida every time I see him on T.V. If Billary would had won on Feb. 5th we would not be hearing about this.The figured they had it. Bill Richardson was excellent on debating him. Since Hillary can bring up Rezko, and William Ayres. Why has know one brought up the Clintons Civil Fraud Case In Los Angeles.RE PAUL VS. ClINTON? I am amazed at what the Clintons can get away with. How come CNN you have not touched on the subject.????? Do you the media have a protection on Clintons roll in it. Mr Paul has taken a lie dector and has been telling the truth on the monies he loaned her and that she is lyin in saying he did not. We will see if CNN post's this.

OBAMA 08/12