GUESS WHICH ONE CLINTON FANS WILL CLING TO?

Rules in rounding in math???? Interesting. It's time for Clinton to get out.

So what? The point is Obama did NOT win. That is the story. He still is not strong enought to end this. He is going to unite the world? He can not unite this party!

it's about time!

NOT! its was 9.2 DUH!
They did say some voters did not have a college degree I think that applies to some folks in the MEDIA!

It was NOT a 10 point victory and therefore she did not win by double digits. She started off with a 20 point lead and once the state got to hear Obama he sliced that by more than a half!

It was irrelevant. Barack is still ahead.

NOT! its was 9.3 DUH!
They did say some voters did not have a college degree I think that applies to some folks in the MEDIA!

More of the cutting-edge news reporting we've come to expect from CNN.

Finally!
Thanks for making it clear. By simple (and elementary) rules of rounding, you round the final answer of an equation, not the measurements in between. and everyone knows 9.31 rounds down to 9, so Clinto won by !single-digit! lead, not double digits.

Dems 08

Give me a break already!

Give Senator Clinton the 10 points!

How many points were added to Obama during his shady caucus moments, ballots missing, problems at the caucus' etc…

Go Hillary!!!!

Sounds like "fuzzy math" to me.

THANK GOD THE MEDIA IS FINALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS…

SHE IS TOUTING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WIN BECAUSE IT IS DOUBLE DIGITS, WHEN IT WASN'T.

SHE EVEN SAID THE MEASURE OF SUCCESS WAS THE 10 POINT WIN, AND IT WASN'T A TEN POINT WIN.

Yea… I got it. How in the world did she go from about a 30 point lead down to about 10. Sounds like the tide has turned and is going out without Hillary.

Lets just say she won by 10 points and not put it under a microscope already. What is with the media 9 or 10 points she still won give it a rest the Golden Boy lost plain and simple.

The funny thing is….. if the tables were turned and Obama won the state, the number 9.31 would be set in stone or rounded down to 9.
Give me a break!

Oh…it's Clintonian New Math. Great, Hillary. Really bodes well for your education reforms. LEARN TO DO MATH, DUMMY!

The Clinton dont care for causes. They dont care what your numbers say.

Give them the Whitehouse and they then only will the Liars be content.

It doesn't really matter. Hillary won, UNFORTUNATELY!!!
I am very disappointed that even though 66% of PA voters stated that they didn't like her way of campaigning, they still voted for her! I can't follow this way of thinking. They basicly said "It's ok to have a liar in the White House, character doesn't matter, all that counts is her experience" .

To quote Sen. Obama, "50 + 1 is a Win.
Whether it was double digit or not, Obama Lost!

I believe that Obama set a high bar for Clinton and said she had to swamp Obama. She did. Plain and simple. People saw 55-45 and that is a win by any standards.

Being from Michigan I can only look throught the window BECAUSE the Democratic Party threw my vote away and they wil not get it back in November.

According to the way all the previous margins of victory have been calculated, Clinton won by 10. End of discussion.

DOSEN'T CNN EVER GET TIRED OF BASHING CLINTON?

YOU GUYS ARE SO BAIS< WHO CARES ABOUT 1.of 1 % SHE WON

DIDN'T SHE?

What a ridiculous excuse for a story.

simple math 1 and 1 = 2
Some folks in the media thinks 1 and 1 = 11
Oh wait.. that was just a Hillary spin!

Stupid nitpicking.

Got it ! 9 points it is……..

To be mathematically accurate it is a 9point lead but what difference does it make, a win is a win. We should be congratulation Hillary on her win and not try to diminish it in any way. Hopefully, after Indiana and North Carolina, she would realize that her chances aren't good and gracefully bow out

I heard the machines had malfunctioned and his name was not on some ballot, this need to be check out. Hillary stayed in Pennyslvania on Tuesday, I am sure Rendell and Nutter helped her win, bu malfunction the machines.

And while we're all being nitpicky… What percentage of obama is actually white or black or other? How far in the lineage should we go back? Two generations? Three? Four? Are we all related to Autralopithecus afarensis?

Don't confuse us with facts.

this was the dumbest article I ever read, I just thought CNN should know this.

It is for bragging rights.

It is about time somebody got it right.

With a state full of old people and blue-collar workers, she should have won with 60% of the vote.

Bingo. Thanks CNN. Great job. Each candidate is clinging to every edge they can get. Nailing down the accuracy of the information is always a good place to start. It's nice to see you point out the truth sans spin.

in mathmatics, you round after the summations. 9.31 %

…and most of those votes were from crossover Republicans.

Sheeesh.

Thank you CNN for posting this!!!!!

LMAO….a win, is a win. I would call it a 50 point margin with all the money Obama spent in PA and still lost by ALMOST 10%!!!

Go Hillary!!!

Single digit and it is Obama who cut through Clinton's win. The media has played Obama's win in Pennsylvania even thought they know he made major major strides and he is capable of winning the state in November. They are just blowing Clinton's win and yet, Clinton lost to Obama by 15 per cent. People need to speak the truth.

None of this matters–go to Slate.com Delegate Counter and see why it is mathematically impossible for Clinton to catch Obama in delegates. The only way she can get the nomination is by the superdelegates over-riding the will of the voters. This event would fracture the Democratic Party and lead to a loss in November. If any reader sees another realistic fact-based scenario, please respond.

It actually doesnt matter since she won, I would not care if she won by 5 points, she WON. I think that you go by the first numbers if you are going to round up or down. BUT HEY SHE WON.

Slow news day huh….

I have gathered some numbers based on the democratic primary to show what will happen in November if Obama is the nominee.

The democratic primary is different as it shares delegates based on percentage but in the general election it is winner takes all in each state. Each state won is that many delegates to winning the overall count. So if we treat the democratic primary just like the general election this is what we are looking at against McCain.

I have taken each state that has won by Obama or Clinton and given all the delegates of that state to the majority winner. I even gave Obama all the upcoming states and made him the winner giving him the delegates from them. I did not include Florida or Michigan to avoid any argument. This includes Guam and others that are counted in the democratic primary. This is only actually won states and future states given to Obama:

Obama won 37 "states"
Hillary won 17 "states"

However in a general election setting:

Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 1750

If you count Florida and Michigan which Hillary won and polls show that even if Obama campaigned in those states Hillary would have won them at that time:

Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 2118

If we gave Florida to Obama and Michigan to Hillary as polls suggest a primary today would give them:

Obama delegate count: 1692
Hillary delegate count: 1907

The bottom line is that Hillary has won in a general election model based on primaries of the democratic party and even giving Obama all the next primary states coming up. The reason Hillary won is she won all the big states practically? These states are historically won by the Republican party as to why Bush beat Kerry in 2004. Therefore if Obama cannot win the big states that Republicans tend to win he has no chance against McCain in the general election. Hillary has the only chance of being a democratic president in 2008.

So do you want a Republican in office or do you want a Democrat. The choice is clear who is more electable in November.

Give it time and Hillary and her slimey surrogates will be adding a few zeroes and doing more cherry-picking of the important states (which for the record the Democrats always win). Heck, they're still trying to count Florida and Michigan for which Hillary continues to deny pledging and signing on to with the rest of the candidates.

I say let's send her back to the Senate to achieve her double-digit win so she can actually put a dent in her embellished tall tale of "35 years of experience".

No, but Elvira -mistress of the dark thinks so.

The careful research of the vote/delegates and primary/caucus history of this campaign clearly shows that irregularities and totally undemocratic situations exist. For example, Sen Obama received 320 delegates from a total of 390,238 caucus votes. This translates in 0.0082 delegates per vote. On the other hand Clinton receives 0.0010 delegate for primary vote. It means that every caucus vote is worth 8 times more than each primary vote. Totally unfair and non-democratic.
Maybe the "super delegates" should bring fairness to the process, "super delegates" may not be very democratic but the caucuses are even less democratic and make no sense since a few activists dominate the "smoke filled" caucus rooms….

barack obama tried to close the gap after been down in the polls almost 30 points before heading to state and despite all the attack leveled at him by both McCain and Clinton camp..and then there is Rev. Wright controversy, bitter comment etc…Obama still rocks and pulled the lead down to single digit.

Lets see, How have all the other results from other Staes been rounded? Im sure the way that gives Hillary a 10 digit lead right? I thought so!

Yeah, it's a single digit lead! Obama's the man!

Ever hear of accurate reporting?! Headlines should read 9.31%, and it gives a better picture of just how close this race is and how HRC distorts information! GAWD!

All I know is , Hillary cannot win but she is making sure that Obama is so beat up that McCain will always have the advantage ! How selfish !

When we get caught up in the details, we lose sight of the big picture… who cares if it was 9 or 10? The President of the United States was considered at one time to be the most powerful person in the world (next to maybe the pope, i guess), and that image is fading fast. This infighting isn't helping.

The point here is that the "kitchen sink" strategies and backbiting may have been an integral part of campaigns in the past, but people don't want that anymore. All the new voters came in because politics were becoming something they could understand, but the negativity is driving them back out again.

Stay with the big picture. Stay with Obama. Do you really care about a flag pin? A pastor friend? Double digits?

If someone is harping on these silly issues now(*ahem*Hillary*ahem*), what makes you think they won't be this pithy when they are POTUS? "I'm not talking with Iran because they won't wear flag pins showing Irani pride!!". Oh wait… Hillary AND McCain have suggested bombing them.. What's a flag pin after it's nuked?

For normal human beings, this would not be a double digit win since it is less than 10 points. But I'm sure Clinton will find a way to make it 20.

God. Clinton Math is atrocious.

I'm a Obama supporter, and I say go ahead and give her 10 points… What difference does it make. Pennsylvania successfully stayed her execusion for 2 more weeks.

I guess we'll just see how much more damage the Clintons can do to the Democratic party for the next 2 weeks…

But we'll finish this for Obama in May…

it matters because Hillary has lied once again and said" i won by double-digits" when old girl knows good and well she didn't. when will she ever stop distorting the truth?

This shows that Clinton is anything but honest! Now she wants us to believe too that she wone the popular vote.

I know you are good in math

54.65 nearest whole number 55

45.34 nearest whole number 45

55 - 45 =10 Ten is double digit number
Now you got it

I am Hillary supporter I know how to do the math

Hillary 08

UGH! That is how the media reported it. We all knew it was a 9 point win for Hillary.

The real question is: Does it matter?

9 or 10, does not change the big picture at all. There is no way the Clintons will be able to catch Obama. Face it.

Yet, another Clinton lie.

She does it so easily as if people are stupid. It kind of reminds me of a the last two Presidents.

NOT 9.2 is NOT 10 no way, no how, no NEW CLINTON MATH. Send the wacko home.

thank you for the correction

YES! President Obama is on his way! Pack it up Hillary!

Hillary needed 64% of votes to win Penn-State! She now needs 68% of votes!

And for you Hillary supporters and news media wanting to know why Obama can't close the deal———

He closed it in Feb. when he beat Hillary with 10-wins!

This is great! She is done! We are on our way!

Clinton has all sorts of funny math, of course she will round incorrectly.

Makes a big difference!

All right, who hired the STUPID person. YOU DO THE MATH beginning with 100% (actually 99.99 if you add both numbers) - AND of course you round up or else you REPORT the percentages with the decimals….AND if you don't report the percentages with decimals….anything over 9% IS ACTUALLY DOUBLE DIGITS.

Go back to school!

so its a 9 point margin of victory for Sen. Clinton

while still impressive, it is NOT a Double Digit win

It was not a double digit win at all.
Then again Bill and Hillary would want it to be a double digit. Obama was 25% down at the start of this race and if he was 9.31% down at the end it was the best work for him.
We should not forget the way Bill Clinton keeps pushing the race card in the states where he knows that the population will vote for a white rather than a colored person. He is an excellent judge of the sentiments of the American people who still are racially prejudiced.
The day Americans can look beyond the race issue we will become a better democracy.

People need to wake up and realize this race is over.  So Indiana and North Carolina, you can vote for someone who has already lost or you can vote for Obama who already has won this race.   I keep hearing there is a race for popular vote.  If there is a race for popular vote, how do you count caucus states (i.e Alaska, Washington State, etc.) where there are no true popular numbers ?  So to me the popular vote rhetoric cannot be used by the super delegates in deciding this race.  Truly superdelegates should take a look at the delegate counts.  Both candidates will beat John McCain, so electability shouldn't be an issue.  Infact on the issue of electability,  the Republicans appear to prefer to run against Hillary, than Obama.  

Bottom line, the Democratic Party has it's Presidential Candidate.  It is Obama.  He has won the most pledged delegates, he has won the most states, and given the fact that there is no true way of deciphering popular vote received by some of the caucus states it is unusable.   Regardless of the outcome of North Carolina and Indiana,  Obama has already won the Democratic primary for 2008.   The sooner people realize this, the sooner the party can mend and we move forward against the Republicans.  To vote for Hillary is like the Republicans still voting for Huckabee…   It means nothing..

A win is a win.

Did Obama spend $12,373,295.23 and still lose?
Was Hillary outspent 3.236712346 to 1?
Did Obama run 9,342 Ads and still lose?
Is the avergage American family 2.5 people?

10% or 9.31% is doesn't matter. What does matter is that once Barack actually started campaiging he cut a 20+ point lead in half. This man is incredible!

It was 9 points - although i'm sure the Clintons will come out today saying that if you're over .5 it should be rounded up and if you're below it should be rounded down?? spin, spin, spin!!!

Can this be over all ready -

This is easy enough. Anyone with any brains knows that you round down below .5 and round up at .5 or above. I am sure that Clinton will try and spin this that it is the wrong way to look at it. Just like the popular vote. If she thinks hard enough, maybe she can bring lower gas prices, food prices, world peace, etc. and win the race, if she only thinks hard enough. The woman seems to think she can change everything and anything to suit her needs.

It's fact that Obama startet with 20 points behind. Moreover Clinton had the big endorsements, so it was clear that Obama couldn't win. He reached a good result under this circumstances…

No wonder why the U.S. is flunking when it comes to math and science.

Wait, 9.3 doesn't round up to 10?

More Clinton math…

she didn't win enough delegates,to make any difference.that's the bottom line.

Hillary it wasn't a double digit win.

Got it?

Uh oh! Here we go again! Fuzzy math, my friends!

Stick with the actual: 9.31%

And if you must round, round once to 9%.

Rounding twice is about as bad as using "averages".

Ben Franklin's warning about those: stick one foot in a bucket of boiling water & the other in a bucket of ice water, on average, the "water temperature is fine".

WOW..CNN stoops to a new low.

A win is a win and we conceed that fact, but please tell the truth "call it like it is" No sense in distorting the truth because I know CNN to be fair. Now if this was FOX news it would be expected….

It's comical to watch actually. Of course the media has rounded the number to 10…that keeps this thing going and traffic driven to their networks which equals big money. It's not brain surgery to figure it out.

America has overcome many obstacles, but racism is still alive and fighting in states such as Pennsylvania. Obama fought hard and lost but he was not DEFEATED. YES WE CAN. ONE NATION ONE COLOR ONE PEOPLE!

This is what I called pure bias attitude of the media. I don't know why media hates Hillary this much to scrutinize every tiny details when they are giving big breaks to Obama. Does it matter whether she is ahead if 9.31 or 10 points ? What matters is that Obama outspend her almost 3-1, all most all the black voters voted for him because he is "one of them", media was all against Hillary and the general attitude towards her was negetive. Amidst of all these she pulled a victory there. She fought relentlessly. I give her credit for that. You in the media needs to recongize that instead of taking this nonsense and blowing it up out of propotion.

She won by 'almost' 10 percent is the only way to say it. I expect some sort of coronation in Indiana, though, for Obama.

Are people so dumb in this country that they need everything rounded off? Can't you just say clinton won by 9.31% ?? No wonder Bush became president, twice!

Well, what you have guys done in all the other primaries to date? Have you rounded the numbers up and down and then figured out the difference, or have you figured out the difference first and then rounded it up or down? It should be as simple as that. But, given your bias for Obama and the fact that you bother to write this little piece, I suspect this is the first time anybody has even thought about doing the latter!

Doubt people will be able to grasp this concept of math.

She didn't do it

How can anyone tell?

Don't worry, by next week she'll be adding a few zeroes, still trying to add Florida and Michigan, inflating her resume, dodging sniper fire for the umpteenth time and cherry-picking states that she won - (Which for the record, the Dems always win). Doesn't matter either way, it wasn't enough! End of story. (If the media would just let it go and report the truth or real news for a change, we'd really be down with that).

So please stop saying she won by double digits on your CNN news programs. It's not accurate reporting!

OK Clintonites - GOT IT?!

It is 9.31 percent. You don't round up before you do the math for God's sake. But then who would ever says the Clintons or the media are wanting to be fair at this point in the election. She is behind, she can't win and this is about to be over. The media is wringing their hands for more ugly sound bites.

She is wanting to rewrite all the rules and campaign law and even the entire premise of the Democratic primary and for that matter the entire democracy this nation was founded on. Some President she would make!

Hillary said I know Florida and Michigan don't count…oh but I'm gonna need them so you have to count them…oh I'm still behind…we CAN'T COUNT THE CAUCUS STATES and we give Obama a ZERO in Michigan. Let me remind everyone over 40% voted undecided or AGAINST HER in Michigan.

For God's sake…her cry to count ALL the votes isn't anything but another lie if she wants all the caucuses and the other 40% of Michigan votes thrown out.

Put a fork in her. She is desperate but done. I would say put a stake thru her heart but she doesn't have one.

Are you serious? I think it silly season again

Pack it up Hillary! This is what happens when people are so nasty!

Imagine paying $2.3-million dollars to your advisers to lose against a rookie! Hillary - it is over with!

She needed a BIG WIN! She needed to win by 64%! And, if she continues this race - she needs to win by 68%!

YES! Go Obama!

According to the math in your above article - she did not.

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. UNBELIEVEABLE THAT YOU PRINTED THIS STORY.

HILLARY 08

Let's see, ten versus nine percent…does it even matter? Sen. Clinton walked away with more delegates and more popular vote, thus I think it fair to say she won PA. More so, Sen. Obama again showed that he does not compete well in a traditional important "blue" state. Sen. Obama's lead in delegates is small and largely due to well-organized but small cadres of supporters in caucus states, which are not good indicators of general elections or the preferences of more casual voters. Splitting hairs does not change the facts-he lost, she won-onto IN, NC, WV, PR and the rest. It is not over, until it is over. May the best win.

Clearly not a double digit win.

Nope - 9.2%
Rounded to 9% - you can see an article over at Politico.

Hey PA, you are idiots!!!! Way to go!!!! Way to keep us split and divided, just how we need to be for the GE.

Obama spent over eleven million dollars in pennsylvania plus weeks of campaigning and came out a loser take. away the black vote and it was basically a wash out. Indiana will be the same. the country is in to big a mess to entrust it to an idealist he as no clear plan or deep understanding of the dire situation the country faces. he talks about hope and a new way of doing things but when pressed about his plans like ABC did he shows he does not fully understand how implementing something like raising the tax on capital gains is counter productive. now that the precedence as been set he no longer wants to debate at caucuses he as control and does not have to elaborate so he can spin all he wants.Soon the black voters will start asking themselves what he as actually done for them except refuse invitations to help their cause. yes Pennsylvania was a big win it started to undress Sen Obama

Sounds like desperation on the part of CNN-Obama Central. A thrashing, is a thrashing, is a thrashing……..

Get over it. Roundland Martin must have written this article.

Pathetic. Moderate this.

OKAY THEN WHERE IS THE MEDIA.
TALK ABOUT THIS JUST LIKE YOU DID WHEN SHE WON AND LETS SEE HOW UNBIASED YOU ARE.
THANK YOU.

OBAMA 08.

I think the point is that this is an inconclusive win. Clinton can claim a win, but does it really help her? Not so much. Obama "lost", but does it really hurt him? Not so much.

Just to put my two cents in on the math, I believe I always learned that you don't round until the end, because you the results could be vastly different. In other words, the method in which the difference is rounded down to 9% is correct.

Who cares! Penn is over…

The difference was 9.31 percent. Clinton will say 10, Obama will say 9.

What matters is the total net gain of delegates, and even that doesn't matter as Obama is going to get the nomination anyway…

Drama, drama, drama…

Splitting hairs as a form of social entertainment.

08ama!

Why even round it off? Do you think the general public is too dumb to understand decimal places?

The point is she didn't win by double digits. She won by 9.31 percent, which was hardly enough to change much of the math. The fact that she dropped from 20 points up at the beginning of the month suggests she's the one losing steam, but everyone's portraying this like its her third comeback and magically everything's going to switch in her favor.

It seems pretty academic to me at this point. Obama needs to keep ahead in North Carolina and Oregon, and as long as Indiana stays really close, Clinton is going to run out of race track. I highly doubt that the superdelegates will want a brokered candidate that goes against the will of the voters.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz!

So why don't the media state the facts instead of making Clinton look like she got this "BIG" win?

As a math major let me make it clear that normally 9.31 is rounded down to 9. Clinton's win was by single digits plain and simple.

Likeability, Likeability, likeability. Is it going to be as technical as this if/when Hillary gets into the white house? Same goes for Barack?

Who cares, she won and I say it's by10 points.

Rounding should be done at the end of the series of calculations. It may only be done between steps, for ease of computation, if there will not be an effect on the final answer. In this case, there is an effect on the final answer and so rounding 45.34 to 45 and 54.65 to 55 is not valid.

But CNN and the other media is either too scared of Clinton to round down or they're so dedicated to giving Hillary press because she's acting like a desperate fool and it gets them all ratings, they won't repudiate it as less than a double-digit win, so yes, it DOES matter.

No, she did NOT WIN BY DOUBLE DIGITS, as the facts clearly state, but we know how she can spin something her way.

DOWN WITH AMERICA's QUEEN. NO TO THE QUEEN OF AMERICA

Idifference between 45.34 and 54.65 is 9.31 percent — the margin of victory for Clinton — the result should be rounded down to nine percent.
fact, she barely made a dent. At most, she picked up a net gain of 12 delegates — less than our gain, for example, in Colorado (where we gained 17) or Kansas (where we gained 14). Her gain in Pennsylvania was less than half of our gain in Virginia, where we added to our lead by 25 delegatesThey Can't overturn the will of the people ! IT will be ugly if they overturn, Do the MATH no way for her to win ulessThey Can't overturn the will of the people ! Then what has she won ??? over my volt and in no way will volt for her , now is win the most delegates hse has my volt

EXACTLY!!! She needed a 'double digit' win and didn't get it!!!
Whatever though, she can keep taking peoples money and lose next month. It's OVER!! Got it?!?

You don't round two numbers first and then take the difference. You are always taught to take the difference first and then round the answer. Why can't CNN figure out such a simple thing? It really doesn't matter whether Hillary won by 9% or 10%, but the way she has been touting her "double-digit" win, someone better explain to her campaign that it was only 9%.

Duh. A 9.31% win is exactly that. Duh.

well, this all depends on whose number system you are using. The entire world would say 9.3 (or 9.2) would be 9% if you must round. However, the Clintons apparently have their own number system, so might as well say it was a landslide 50% victory…

Easy math, i guess only an educated Obama Voter could get it……9 points, not that it matters though

Thanks CNN for finally setting the record straight. I've been really aggravated by the media and everyone I know saying she won by 10 points or by "double digits" when its simply not true

Definitely she likes civil war rather deserving bringing together this a multi- American people. If she was not, she would not stay in the race. ing in the race.

At least the media is now paying attention to another example of Clinton's fuzzy math. I may not be a rocket scientist or a math genius, but even I can round numbers appropriately. 9 percent is not a double digit number.

I TELL YOU FUDGE THIS & FUDGE THAT AND HILLARY SAYS SHES A WINNER ….PLEEEEEZE GIVE US A BREAK

Definitely she likes civil war rather deserving bringing together this a multi- American people. If she was not, she would not stay in the race. ing in the race.

Facts, why do we need facts? Hillary will twist them into what we are supposed to believe anyway, right?

WHO CARES ?? THE MAIN POINT WAS SHE HAD A 20 POINT LEAD AND BLEW IT, AS PEOPLE SAW THROUGH THE LIES. 60% OF THE VOTERS SAY SHE'S UNTRUSTWORTHY…..SHE CAN'T OVERCOME THAT FACT BY TWISTING THE TRUTH OR THE FACTS (YET AGAIN).

SUPER-DELEGATES…..IF YOU WANT TO WIN IN NOVEMBER THEN YOU DON'T NOMINATE SOMEONE AMERICANS CAN'T STAND OR CAN'T TRUST….AND IF YOU DO, THEN YOU DESERVE TO LOSE.

Basic math learned in school….if the number is 9.51 you round up. If the number is 9.49 you round down. Simple, she won by only 9 points.

THIS is what I've been waiting for SOMEONE to point out! Her double-digit victory was NOT a double-digit victory!!! She has lowered the bar and moved the goalposts so many times I cannot keep track. Someone has got to call her on all these things….count the numbers when they're good for…..doesn't count when they're not…..cauceses played by the rules…they don't count now? PLEASE!

9 percent is certainly more accurate but at the end of the day, does it really make a difference?

OK, Let's state the correct margin tonight; with same intensity as the forcast 10% margin.

Perception plays a lot in politics, so it does matter.

The media should reflect the 'real' results. Why round it to 10 which makes it 'look' like a bigger win than it was. Shows a little media bias towards Clinton with the aim being to prolong this primary race and keep the media ratings up.

Please stop playing favorites

Thanks CNN for finally setting the record states. Im really aggravated with the media and people saying Hillary won by 10 points or "double digits" when this is simply not true

What I got is that the spread is 9% and not 10%. Why is this a side-note by CNN, instead of the way it is reported on TV? This clearly helps Hillary in a way that should boost CNN's revenues. Keep the fight going CNN. Create a false situation for Clinton supporters to rally behind, like when she was declared the winner of TX, even though Barack won the delegate race. This is a race for delegates is it not? You have a lot in common with Hillary, you both reinerpret the fact to mislead, to somehow personally profit. Really disgusting. Don't you think? Sure would like to see this posted.

Yawn……..

This is why elections lately are so banal. We have the pundits and campaign wizards focused on whether a 10% win puts her back on the map. If it is exactly 10.0000000%, it is a "double-digit win" (as would be 15%, 25%, etc.) and the Hill hounds go wild.

If it were exactly 9.0000000%, we have a "single digit win" and she does not have the momentum she needed and Obama cut into her lead.

IT'S ONE PERCENT MAXIMUM, FOLKS………

In the end, she got 83 delegates, he got 73. Those are the facts.

The TRUTH is whatever Hillary says! sic sic sic

I have gone from having a somewhat positive opinion of Hillary Clinton 6 months ago to one now where if I saw her in the the crosswalk ahead … I'd have to talk myself into hitting the brakes! I suppose even political wh*res are people too!!

Definitely she likes civil war rather deserving bringing together this a multi- American people. If she was not, she would not stay in the race.

The numbers tell the truth.

The political pundits said that Sen. Clinton had to win PA by the high double digits. Sen. Obama cut her off at the knees, by reducing her huge 26% lead to less than 10%. Now tell me truthfully, who do you think came out a winner. And when were these results a "convincing victory"?

She won by nine that's not a double digit
Stop distorting the numbers for her CNN

Whatever! It's not going to make a difference in the delegate distribution so why should it matter? Can we move on so we can get this race behind us and work on the unification of the democratic party? After all the saying is "divide and conquer" and that is exactly what is happening. If we want to win in November we must not continue to play the game as the Republicans what us to play we need to take the lead and play the game the way we want to play it.

Tired and ready to move on!

It is what it is. Or, rather, was. It's history now.

Tell me about 10% margin.

I'm surprised this was even pointed out. Grade school taught everyone to round down if less than .5. But the story of 10 points(!) was just too great for the media to let slip by.

Thanks for reporting a fact. Oh. You're journalists. I guess you're supposed to do that, anyway.

Aw heck, be nice. Give the evil woman and extra 10 %, she still isn't going to win. By the way isn't her campaign fraud trial today or tommorrow?

What does the United States call other countries who change their rules in the middle of an election to favor a particular canidate. Corrupt. That is exactly what Hillary Clinton and her team want to do. Change the rules in the middle of an election. According to the official rules this election is finished and Obama is the winner. Therefore, no more need for another debate so they can team up on Obama 3 to 1 again.

I know Hillary won't quit until she is knocked out all the way, so Obama please knock her out. Give her a good solid knock out punch that lands her sprawling on the ground. Then give her a couple of good kicks to make sure she doesn't get back up. We're getting sick of her and her buddies nasty mouths.

I thought the same exact thing on election night. It was a '9′ not '10′ point spread. Clinton's "crash & burn" tactics are becoming increasingly desparate & toxic - like the same old Clinton strategy. Why couldn't 'she' seal the deal on Super Tuesday? Because she's not what we're looking for. She would rather crucify Barack if 'she' can't be the nominee. Shame on you Hillary Clinton. Shame on you.

Oh for petesake a win is a win, who is moving the poll now?

It does not matter, Hellary is still behind in delegates and should do the honorable thing: drop out

Funny, I had this same discussion with folks, in math you round up or down to tne nearest denominator, WE ALL KNOW IT"S NINE! But let her have her ten, it was not a blow out like she hoped for, she cannot possibly catch up and the super delegates are not going to overturn the majority of the Country. GUESS WHAT???? ALL OF AMERICA counts, not just Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania (are Ohio and Penn even that popular in this Country???), and no she did not win Texas, Obama netted more delegates. She can even throw in Florida and Michigan, excluding those voters who selected other/undecided in Michigan, and she would STILL BE BEHIND! The media keeps spinning this election as long as they can for ratings. Clinton's race for the White House is over, now it's time to focus on Obama v. McCain.

It doesnt really matter. she only got a few delegates, not enough to make any end roads into Obama's lead.

It is over for HRC. She is just the last to know.

And if you use the expected pledged delegate count according to the Obama campaign, the difference is only 6 percent

Baloney! Hillary 2008!

Do all the Fuzzy Math you want to!

The fact is Obama is no longer a viable Candidate!

He can't deliver the main stream votes needed to win in the general election.

America will never elect a President that is an Anti-American!

Hillary or McCain 08

It matters. That 'double digit' win is something that echos through the tide-is-turning tunnels. She had to get that 'double-digit' to make the case to carry on clawing her way to the nomination. Clinton math continues to deviate from what I learned in grade school- you round down under .5, round up over. 9.3 can't be 'rounded-up' no matter your spin. It was a single digit win. Oh, should we note this was Hillary's home state? Didn't Barak win his home state, by something like 32 points……..of course, Illinois is not a 'big' state, a 'swing' state, a 'must-win' state, so those votes don't matter (of course except for the ones that Hillary includes in her new vision of the popular vote). How I hate the spin…..

And please that this is still 99% of votes, not 100%.

Recall that the absentee ballots are not in yet. The word is that many young college students voted in their home district by absentee ballot, so Obama may pick up quite a few more votes.

So we went through all that garbage for 6 weeks for Hillary to get 10 delegates? What a waste.

The clinton camp is not good at math anyway…
winning PA by double digit or nearly double digit, even by triple digit doesn't change the course of the contest
He's winning and the only reason she's still in is because her name is CLINTON, they think they're entitled to the presidency
Also, remember more than one month ago, political pundits did also say that she needed to win both OH and TX BIG to stay in the race.
Final results: OH 10 points margin giving her an edge of handful delegates.
TX 3 or 4 points margin primary giving her 3 or 4 delegates over
but the TX caucus erased this edge, despite that, SHE'S STILL IN.

Im sure that there is some interesting spin being devised by the Clinton Maniacal Machine…Lets see….perhaps something like "Obama outspent us 3 to 1 so the victory really should be mutiplied by 3 and so I should be awarded 27% delegates and popular vote from PA". Of course, she will also have to follow up with an position on why her name recognition is actually a bad thing and should be counted as a handicap making Obama's spending truly unfair without contradicting her position that everyone was happy and loved when Bill was president.

Double digit victory sounds so much better so according to the Clintons that is what it is, period. If single digit victory sounded better then the Clintons would say that's what it is. Whatever is best for the Clintons!

Give me a break. A win is a win, even if it is in Senator Clinton's column. I know it is hard for all of the anti-Hillary people to accept that fact. But in any other race, the person who finished first, even with a 0.01 second advantage, wins first place. Count Florida and Michigan and there is no debate about who the people want as their nominee. Hillary all the way.

9.3 does NOT round UP to 10!

Only in the "Clinton Math" book, perhaps. The same book that still gives her a shot to win the popular vote.

How petty can you get…better go over all the other states to make sure
they got it right.

Where's the headline that says Clinton win only in single digits after all!!!!!
CNN… You owe it to the world to correct the misconception that this was indeed not a double-digit win for the Clintons.
Let Hillary do the math on this one!!!!

Mathmatics is not the Clinton campaign strong point!

That said it was a nice victory for Hillary, it will be short lived though, as once North Carolina and Indiana factor in, Obama's delegate and popular vote lead will be bigger than it is now!

Ho my god !!
You really need a math phd to follow this dem primary
delegate math, popular vote math, and now PA primary math

SHE WON BY 10 POINTS.
Obama accept she bit you hands down

CNN please report the right number Hilliary did not win by 10 points
if it was Obama, Clinton would be screaming and complaining so that
you would have to report the right number. Be Fair is all I ask?

a win is a win is a win.. that's all that matters. She won some and he's won some. THey are both good

HAHAHA Good point Monica

Good that she did not say she was the president during 1992-2000, while Bill is VP.

But who knows. she maybe say it next week.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC.

This really doesn't matter. The reason it's making headlines is because Big Media will go to any and every extreme to make Obama look good!

Yet, we sit here and criticize Hillary for standing up for herself and going to those same extremes to make herself look good.

Quote Obama: "A win is a win!"

What else can we come up with to beat Hillary Clinton to death?

What? Clinton would manipulate the numbers to make herself look good? I don't believe that for a second! (Note the sarcasm)

She's also been saying that she's won the most votes by including Michigan, a state from which she was supposed to remove her name from the ballot like Obama did. She also said that she had to win Ohio and Texas to stay in the race, and she's still in it, despite losing Texas. HIL-LIE-RY is shameless and it's shocking that she has any supporters at all.

Thank you…because it's in fact not a double digit win as most pundits and media are claiming it to be!!!

OBAMA 2008!!!!!!!!!

I think it is far more interesting that by the latest counts, she only picked up 10 delegates! 10. That's it. Huge victory, huge spin, huge rhetoric, and only 10 delegates… And has anyone mentioned most of the counties she won normally vote Republican in the general elections?

Finally, an article based on facts instead of Hillary's spin. I expect no less from the news media regardless of which candidate the article is about.

Most elementary school math students know you do the calculation first and then do the rounding. But if the "double didget" claim makes the Clinton camp feel better, so be it. I'm sure the superdelegates are not going to be fooled by anything - they are, after all, either politicians themselves or in the business, ya know? They can see through the shenanigans.

OBAMA 08

Monica, you as well as I know when it comes to stats it all depends on the way you want to see the numbers it's clearly a 9% win. But you know the Clinton's " I didn't have sex with that woman" and "I misspoke!"

Well let's see,
He has 1719, let's round that down to 1700 and she has 1586, let's round that up to 1600. Oh my, she is only behind by 100. They have to get to 2025, so let's round that down to 2000. Just because you are reporters and you may not be able to do the actual math then get a calculator. She did not win by double digits and he is up by 133. So you played right into the Clinton peoples hands and are reinforcing their distortion to convince people that she got the numbers she needed to continue this nonscence. People who watch the news want the facts not your opinion and not your distorted way of rounding the numbers. When I watched the CNN, Fox and MSNBC the other night during the PA primary. Different hosts on each station said that she won Texas (these were not Clinton supporters on the air, it was media hired to report the news). She specifically won the primary, he won the caucus but he got more delegates according to Texas primary rules so he won Texas. Don't distort the truth, report the truth.

Obamanuts, move your focus to Indiana and North Carolina. You lost PA, accept it.

Yawn.
She won.
99% reporting.

43 Mayors ans another Oregon Superdelegate have thrown their support to Sen. Obama.

You, I and everybody know quite well that Sen. Clinton is just deciving us that she is still in the race. What she is doing now is just to make sure she cast enough doubt on Sen. Obama for a McCain presidency which will give her the opportunity to run again in 2012.

I only hope to chiken hearted DNC would call her to order and stop her from making americans go through another four years of pains under the republicans.

This isn't a surprise. It's politics. Twist the numbers to support your own view, and when neither are technically wrong, that means that you're not wrong.

Obama himself has said a win is 50 plus 1 so what difference does this make, she won get over it and move on to the next election.

who cares she still won. This is so stupid.

The Clintons won Pennsylvania. Not by double digits but a win is a win. So I will give them that.

I am still disappointed that my fellow Catholics voted for the Clintons. They are thinking that having the Clintons back in the White House will have our economy back to where it was in the 90's but its not that easy or simple.

Please Indiana, do your homework. Do not fall for the attacks, lies and pandering being done by the Clintons!

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton is NOT change!

And please, remember that for ALL of her experience and 'wisdom' she VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ! How can anyone vote for anyone who got us into THIS MESS???????????????????????!

Obama seems convinced he won?

9 isn't 10. Get it right.

If we round to the nearest hundred, Hillary got 100% and Obama got 0%, so it's a triple digit win!!!

GO HILLARY!!!

the one point difference isn't that big a deal

but when that difference is between 9 or 10

it is in terms of headlines, fund raising, and political capital

and it's too late to correct that now

Okay, Im an Obama supporter till the end!!

but really, this is useless!!

either way, she won, congratulations to clinton, but let's get over it, and move on, and campaign hard in North Carolina and Indiana, and really put her away!!

LET'S GO OBAMA!!!

ps: I wish pundits will stop asking why didn't Obama end this—-> HE DID WHEN HE WON 11 STRAIGHT CONTESTS!!! And she had to go negative to win!!!! And he ended it when he won so much that there is no mathematical way she can get ahead!!!

OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now let's go back and make sure all of Obama's wins were not rounded up incorrectly. Talk about being petty. Is this a sign that O's supporters are a little worried ? Seems to be.

This is a very important point. The difference is just 9 point. So clinton failed to get the double digit lead

She has a 25 point lead. He closed the gap.. give it up Billary. No one likes you.

HALF OF AMERICA STRONGLY DISLIKES HER —————-
HOW CAN SHE WIN???

COMMON ITS COMMON SENSE!!

Either way it goes, Sen Billary got the win, or rather that battle, but she's not winning the WAR. That goes to Sen Obama who is still leading in the delegate count by a little over 140+. Billary has won the big states, but not all by a siginificant number. Sen Obama's lead comes from the people. The hard working, nail biting, sleepless nights, feed the family, pay the bills, tired of outsourced jobs Americans. WE are the ones who are putting Sen Obama where he'll be in November. We are not the racist, foul crying Americans that are voting for Sen Clinton, and YES she did play the race card, she and her husband. WHY? To play on the fears of those Americans who are not yet ready for a BLACK/Bi-racial AMERICAN to lead this country. And that's a sad vote for the USA. Color DOES matter BUT it won't win the WAR.

Look like the media is learing form Hillary too. "10% or 9%, what does it matter? No one expects to to be able to count and round numbers, right?

CNN, have you and will you count so precisely for Obama? Shame on you, CNN. So biase! You lost creditibility to me and many of my friends and collegues.

Thank you Gloria, I agree. Wolf and Anderson should be hosting a game show. Not commentating.

43 Mayors in NC and another Oregon Superdelegate have thrown their supports to Sen. Obama.

You, I and everybody know quite well that Sen. Clinton is just deciving us that she is still in the race. What she is doing now is just to make sure she cast enough doubt on Sen. Obama for a McCain presidency (God forbids) which will give her the opportunity to run again in 2012.

I only hope the chiken hearted DNC would call her to order and stop her from making americans go through another four years of pains under the republicans.

what's the point, Obama lost it anyway considering all the money he spent.

Looks like the media is learing form Hillary too. "10% or 9%," what does it matter? No one expects us to be able to count and round numbers, right?

This sort of "calculation" doesn't surprise me, especially considering that it is on CNN's webpage. This is the kind of B-S that has been going on since the beginning of Senator Clinton's campaign. If she wins it is always downplayed and if she loses it makes headlines. I think the press has always favored Obama, whether the American people do or not. It is such a joke at this point. No wonder such an unknown and unexperienced candidate is in the lead. CNN has pushed Obama from the beginning. You cannot watch CNN for five minutes without seeing coverage of Obama. I think that Foxs News has been much more unbiased and fair on their coverage of the TWO candidates in this campaign. I wonder if this rounding off of the percentages of votes were ever mentioned about a state that Obama won. Come on….This is getting ridiculous.

you are correct 9.31 is rounded to 9

Com'on, Hillary said she's not good at math. Give her a break. Habitual exaggeration is not, like, lying, right?

"9.31″ seems like 3 digits to me, one more than two

Report the facts, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS..
What's the problems?
Looking for more TIe Pins to talk about.

that depends on what you mean by the word "was"

Yes, we've got it. The Obama fans can do math. The Clinton fans, when faced with prohibitive math, simply decide that math doesn't matter and try to change the rules.