April 24th, 2008
03:05 PM ET
7 years ago

Was Pennsylvania a double-digit Clinton win - or not?

Did Clinton get a double-digit win?
Did Clinton get a double-digit win?

(CNN) - It's one little point that's making for a whole lot of discussion. Was it 9 points or was it 10? That’s the question many people are asking about Hillary Clinton’s margin of victory over Barack Obama in Tuesday’s Pennsylvania Primary.

According to the most up-to-date vote totals from the Associated Press - used by all networks and national news organizations - Clinton won 1,260,208 votes in Pennsylvania to Obama’s 1,045,444. If you break it down by percentages, that’s 54.65 percent for Clinton and 45.34 percent for Obama. If you round up the Clinton number to 55 percent and the Obama number is rounded down to 45 percent, you get a ten point margin of victory for Clinton.

But if the difference between 45.34 and 54.65 is 9.31 percent - the margin of victory for Clinton - the result should be rounded down to nine percent.

Got it?

(Updated numbers after the jump)

Why does this matter? Maybe because the candidates spent six long weeks campaigning in Pennsylvania, and because so many political pundits said Clinton needed to win Pennsylvania by double digits to keep her bid for the Democratic presidential nomination alive.

But regardless of the margin of victory in Pennsylvania, the race has now moved on to Indiana and North Carolina, the next battlegrounds in the road to the White House.

UPDATE: As the count in Pennsylvania continues, Clinton's margin has edged up slightly. According to the latest tally released by the Associated Press, she now has 1,260,416 votes, or 54.7 percent of the total; Obama has 1,045,910 votes, or 45.3 of the total. That makes the current margin of victory for Clinton 9.4 percent, which still rounds down to a 9-point victory.

soundoff (464 Responses)
  1. v.ananthan

    OBAMA IS A LOSER...

    whether the margin is 9 points or 10 points doesn^t matter...

    PEOPLE HAVE BECOME BAD LOSERS......

    April 24, 2008 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  2. MikeT

    Stop the biases CNN, It will be your fault if we have a loser for a nominee in the fall.

    Hillary 08

    April 24, 2008 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  3. jw, canadian,ok

    Slow days for news eh? No wars, ecomony booming – oh yeah, there is that gas thing.

    April 24, 2008 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  4. Rob BC Canada

    Sorry Hillary but the final count was actually 9.3 percent, but since when does the truth matter. Spin Spin Spin.

    April 24, 2008 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  5. Joe

    A win is a win is a win is a win is a win. Hillary won? Do you get that?

    CNN continues it's love affair with Obama.

    April 24, 2008 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  6. brilync

    Please report the margin of victory accurately. Now that we have the accurate numbers, seems CNN has some due diligence in making sure that the 10% number is revised!

    Karin

    April 24, 2008 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  7. J CREECH

    I AM A REPUBLICAN – WHITE WOMAN – OVER 63 – I AM VOTING FOR THE MAN FOR DIDN'T LOSE PA – HE CUT HER LEAD BIG TIME. SO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME "WHEN IS THE TIME, PLACE AND HOW IS SHE GOING TO LEAVE THIS PRIMARY? TIME TO GO BACK TO WHEREVER YOU AND THE OTHER HALF BELONG. OH, DON'T FORET TO TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER WHO WAS IN NEW YORK DURING 9/11. AS A MOTHER AND WOMAN YOU SURE DON'T SHED A TEAR FOR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF AMERICA WHO ARE FIGHTING THE WARS THAT YOU SAID OK. GO AWAY

    April 24, 2008 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  8. ap

    picky picky! why are you so quick to trivialize her win? jeez!!

    April 24, 2008 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  9. Karen, TN

    Thank you so much! I was desparately hoping this was going to make it on the news since it is such an obvious fact! Maybe this will help in some small way to shut that crazy Clinton woman up!

    April 24, 2008 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  10. Chic

    Fantastic point MONICA.

    April 24, 2008 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  11. Young & Educated for Obama

    1 + 1 = 2
    Hillary says 1 + 1 = 11 spin spin spin 9.3 = 10
    lol This woman is a JOKE!!!
    The polls did show alot of uneducated voters go for Hillary it seems this also applies to the Media!

    April 24, 2008 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  12. cecil

    News Media, Stop making America look Stupid! She Won by 9% period.
    Lets not forget a Win Is 50% + 1 ok. Is this wrong also?

    Obama 08

    April 24, 2008 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  13. Javi >> CA

    I have trouble understanding why the media is reporting false wins, false numbers for HRC, and not reporting what is actually happening, THE TRUTH! She lost Texas but yet the media (CNN) reports she's won it and has not corrected that. She won Pa with 9.31% margin so why is everyone saying she won with 10points?? People said she need it double digits to keep on going, it doesn't take a mathematician to know that 9.31% is not double digits! Math and numbers don't lie! Come on CNN lets be fair here, and report accurate information! HRC give it up, your time has come to step out, HRC and BC will be the only ones to blame if MaCaine wins in November, with all there negative campaigning!

    Obama 08!

    April 24, 2008 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  14. Chris from MI

    This is yet another example of how Hillary Clinton seems to forget the actual facts before her. Math is very precise, you can't say that 9.31% = 10% that's just not accurate. So get your facts right Mrs. Clinton. You continually fail to present accurate information and it's about time that you actually take the time to figure out the truth. Quit saying you won by 10% BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T. Quit saying that you're ahead in the Popular vote BECAUSE YOU AREN'T.

    Independant for Obama '08 and beyond

    April 24, 2008 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  15. Mike

    Written by a "cling on to anything" to stop momentum. You make me laugh...

    April 24, 2008 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  16. J. Lowman

    How about we don't round the results at all...she won by 9.3% or 214,506 votes. Is it a 10%+ victory, no. But at the least it does warrant continuation of this selection process. In my opinion it does make a difference what states a candidate wins. I am a ND native and it is great to see the turnout of Democratic Caucus but is a win in this Plains State really worth as much as a win in say NY, CA, TX (granted they won't win this either), OH, or PA? Also, I understand why the Michigan results should not be accepted, but weren't all of the candidates' names included in Florida? Just curious.

    April 24, 2008 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  17. John

    The Official PA state department Election commission has put the actual percentage win with 99.7% of the vote counted at only 8.6% if the media are rounding the figures then Hillary bested Obama by just nine percent. I thought CNN claimed to have the best team on TV but they are just as stupid as Bush and cannot do the Math correctly, Like we are not in a recession already, yeh right. the real result was a Clinton win by just 8.6%

    What Liars CNN and the Clintons are.

    Vote Obama for Honesty and truth.

    April 24, 2008 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  18. Tim Lynch

    I hope someone reports on the provisional ballots that have not yet been counted. In other States, California for example, two months after the election the vote totals changed and Obama got most of them and Hillary's delegate count went down and his went up. I think we know most new voters went Obama in Pennsylvania as well so expect a similar outcome.

    April 24, 2008 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  19. Antoinette

    Ive been hearing that too

    Oh well

    On to ID and NC which Obama will win

    I could care less if it was 9 or 10 points. It surely wasnt 30 points

    April 24, 2008 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  20. JDR

    you snobamas are sickening!

    April 24, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  21. Look byond

    But, did any one see the happy grin on WOLF's Face, when he announced that Hilary was the projected winner.
    You can tell by his body language that he was so excited.
    This is why they took prime time from him and gave it to that ediot also.
    I think Ted Turner or the Board should look into the dealings of Wolf with the CLINTONS.
    Why don't you bring back Jack Cafferty, at least he is not BIAS.

    April 24, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  22. ART in TX

    9 points or 10...she didn't get the 20 points she need to cut his lead significantly. and now she's out of chances. no other large state is tailor-made for HRC.

    April 24, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  23. Monte Brown

    Oh, Knock it off. CNN is full of crap. You people are sooo biased for Obama. Get your heads out of Obama's butt.

    April 24, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  24. Dallas

    OMG She won, and she won big. Does it matter if it is 9.31% or 10% SHE WON. Get over it.

    April 24, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  25. chemika

    Wow who cares if she won Pennsylvania by 9 or 10% she is still behind and Obama is still in the lead so guess what it means she still have got to win the remaining states which I doubt very seriously that she can do that so lets go Obama!!!!!!!

    April 24, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
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