Comments on: Was Pennsylvania a double-digit Clinton win - or not?

By: Jack in ND

Jack in ND — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:22:37 +0000

A 9.5 could be rounded up to 10 for reporting purposes, but since such political hay was made of Hillary getting a double-digit win, to claim that achievement would require a raw, pure, unrounded 10 or better.

A victory of 9.99% rounds to 10, but doesn't meet the double digit margin standard.

By: jr

jr — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:22:00 +0000

Look, she'll round up when it serves her purpose and round down when it does not. What's new. Her and her whole campaign are
L ying
A mbitious
M ean
E litists

By: Deshad Cato

Deshad Cato — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:21:51 +0000

9 or 10
Fact is she still won.
Just like Obama is still winning and has been winning for some time now.

I don't understand this party can be so foolish. It's simple, Hilary can't win with just the votes anymore. She needs the superdelegates to win and if she is a woman of any pride she wont take the nomination if it's handed to her.

By: we wanh hillary, not mccain...screw him.

we wanh hillary, not mccain...screw him. — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:21:22 +0000

Hillary is a gangster.

By: Debbie, NJ

Debbie, NJ — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:21:18 +0000

Normally when you round a number it is the total that gets rounded so why is Hillary's math so different. It's 9%. Wow she's turning the media and all her backers into crooks and liars.

By: faye

faye — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:20:51 +0000

Obama stopped Hillary just as he wanted to. With all the negativity and attempts to distroy him, she could not win big, yea, 9%. Since she claims more experience and electability she would not have to stoop too the lowest degree to be elected. I at one time admired the Clinton's back in the 90's but not this time. It is truly time for a change and Mr. Obama is the one. I will, as a Dem support which ever one wins, because i believe in the unity of Dem. Therefore, my fellow Dem lets not lose sight.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:20:46 +0000

CNN always lieing for Hillary she won by 9% this is worst election I ever witness CNN needs to come out and say they support Hillary, ask CNN what the percentage for Hillary in North Carolina

By: Dan J

Dan J — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:19:31 +0000

So her win was actually 9.31%? Not 10%? That's it! She should drop due to these semantics! Please! Oh, and let's ignore absentee ballots.

By: Gloria

Gloria — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:19:12 +0000

Why don't you people get a life. What does it matter 9 or 10 the woman won. Give her a break.

By: bigben

bigben — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:18:51 +0000

oh noes dont wanna make the blacka angry. I am scared not.

By: April in Texas

April in Texas — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:18:24 +0000

About time this gets reported... Thank you CNN.She won by 9 as since it was low a low 9 it gets lowered not promoted up to 10.. WTG Obama we did awesome in PA and we know it.. Now to NC and IN as its time to seal the deal here...

Obama 08

By: Sammy

Sammy — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:17:44 +0000

The numbers should matter simply because accuracy is always important in elections, whether its 1 point or 10. If the difference between 9 and 10 alters how the delegates are awarded then I expect both campaigns will fight like mad. I guess the question is whether or not they are awarded on round numbers.

By: Robert Cummins

Robert Cummins — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:17:34 +0000

Okay, so compromise , she won by 9.3%. Not exactly a double digit lead.

By: Matthew, Philadelphia, PA

Matthew, Philadelphia, PA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:17:10 +0000

I am admittedly a Clinton supporter, and not trying to bash Obama here, but who really cares if it's 9%, 9.31% or 10%? She won and she won big.

By: Marshall

Marshall — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:17:09 +0000

I still want to know how this is a win? I think the delegates should all go to the winner of the state. Isn't that how the General Election works?

Just wondering?

By: bo, NC

bo, NC — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:17:03 +0000

bottom line is he lost a big state – again.

for sure pennsylvania would go to mccain rather than obama.
he is lucky the dem primaries are complicated not winner take all. hilary would have run away with the nomination by now.

By: E. C., Houston, Texas

E. C., Houston, Texas — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:17:02 +0000

CNN will fabricate anything and stoop as low as necessary to play favorites. CNN does NOT report News..........it Screws the News.

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:16:34 +0000

It is 9%. Let's be accurate. No need for spin.

By: W PA

W PA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:16:16 +0000

Hillary and her campain are in denial...no other explanition other then ego...if she was leading Bil, Hillary and everybody else rooting for her would have made sure Barack would have been out after she had won 11 states in a row...give it up Hillary...

OBAMA 08/12

By: Remnice

Remnice — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:16:13 +0000

imagine what kind of rounding clinton will use on your taxes.

you people better vote for obama or you're asking for a term worse than bush.

yep. worse than bush.

By: Richard

Richard — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:15:59 +0000

For CNN to continue to refer to it as a double digit is completely and utterly misleading, mathematically incorrect, and gives Clinto credit where no credit is due. Shame on you.

By: Ruth Ziegler

Ruth Ziegler — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:15:48 +0000

Clearly, we should all understand the math.....she won by 9.3 pts. and to call that double-digit is wrong. In this election that so much seems to be based on perception....it is unfair to call it a 10 pt. win.

Of course, Hillary is seeming to make a number of mathematical mistakes lately.....her campaign check book, how many elected delegates are left to be distributed, and how meaningful is a popular vote when your name is the only name on the ballot.

Hillary is really doing an injustice to her supporters with her constant misleading. If she can't win fairly, the lady needs to drop-out and support Barack Obama.

By: E. C., Houston, Texas

E. C., Houston, Texas — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:15:33 +0000

Sarcastic RUBBISH!

By: Jack in ND

Jack in ND — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:14:57 +0000

""I hope the likes of Republican Joe Scarborough will acknowledge that it was not 10% after all; or, will it be buried as is positive information on Obama."" I think the media correction that Hillary didn't in fact win Pennsylvania by double digits is about as likely to happen as the media correction that Hillary didn't actually win Texas.

By: Barb

Barb — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:14:07 +0000

Most of the media seems to forget (conveniently) that Hillary had a 20 point lead just a short time ago in Pa.

What happened to that story? Yes she won and lets give her credit for that but lets have the whole story. This is where people get so frustrated–why are we getting just half the story? Seems that this story is not enough of a headline so lets forget and just do what is sensational.

By: Tommie

Tommie — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:14:01 +0000

I find it funny that Hillary supporters like to pretend that Obama spent more money than Hillary just because Hillary didn't want to be wasteful. Obama spent more money than Hillary because he raises more money than she does. By the way, Hillary's campaign entered the month into debt. Maybe she can take some of the money her campaign raised and pay off some creditors.

Way to spin a negative into a postive!

By: v.ananthan

v.ananthan — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:14:00 +0000

Obama avoids debates…

He can deliver good speeches…

The advantage is that he can bring leaders from Iran, Syria and other countries and give them a lecture…

LOTS OF TIME WILL BE SAVED….

THIS IS THE CHANGE OBAMA IS TALKING ABOUT…

By: L. Tran, TX

L. Tran, TX — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:13:52 +0000

Too late now to point out. Hillary already got the extra credit. for the test

By: Peggy

Peggy — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:13:46 +0000

Clinton's very clearly described in detail an event in Bosnia that simply did not happen – this is a little scary – was she dreaming while she was awake. Is she dreaming now. Someone needs to wake her up and the press is clearly sleeping on the job. She does not have a chance of winning-yet she is treated by the press as a viable candidate. Her continued presence in this primary is indicative of another flight of fantasy on her part and the press is timid to expose this reality.

By: Naren Patel

Naren Patel — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:13:26 +0000

Whether you like Hillary Clinton or not, but you will agree that she has a remarkable ability to tell all kinds of lies and half-truths with the same smile on her face. It is amusing to watch her audiance applaud as if they, like Hillary, do not know the difference between illusion and sad reality.

NorthCarolinian

By: FB

FB — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:13:18 +0000

They aren't competing for percentages, they are competing for delegates. A simple idea that Hillary cannot grasp. Simply put, she did not make a substantial dent on Obama's delegate lead.

Are you smarter than a 5th grader? 1,724 is greater than 1,589.

Did I just hear Obama picked up yet another superdelegate from Oregon? 1,725 is still greater than 1,589

By: B

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:44 +0000

FINALLY someone acknowledges that she won by single digits. I was under the impression it was 8.6% – but 9% is close. It's simple math...if it falls below .5, you round down..NOT up. Thanks media. You guys are great.

By: Barack Obama 44th president !

Barack Obama 44th president ! — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:31 +0000

Well if it really matters that much then set the record straight on the air for all to see and hear.

Nevertheless, Clinton only got 20 total delegates more that Sen. Obama from PA.

Sen. Obama is still ahead in States won (30 out of the 45); has more pledged delegates (1487 to her 1331) ; and he has more popular votes ( he leads by 500, 610).

By: Decarla

Decarla — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:26 +0000

C'mon, we all know that the media wants this to drag out as long as possible, it's good for ratings. Thta's why the numbers get fudged to make the race appear closer than it really is. After all is said and done, Clinton only picked up 10 delegates for her win. That's the REAL story

I agree 100%. This is the STORY. We are about DELEGATES.
Hillary would like you believe it is about ELECTORAL VOTES.

By: sky

sky — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:12 +0000

Well, the facts do not seem to matter to Ms. Clinton. She is trying to say she has the popular vote now by including Michigan where Obama was not even on the ticket and Florida where thousands of voters said they did not even vote because they were told it was not official. So what is her deal anyway.....have you guys got no pride.

By: Obama supporter in New Jersey

Obama supporter in New Jersey — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:09 +0000

the media has the same math problem as Billary. that is why this country is in trouble. Can't do simple arithmetic! And then anyone that can put a noun and a verb in the same sentence, you want to call him an elitist. His Columbia/Harvard education wasn't easy to come by. At least he paid his bills. America is mean spirited, cold and calculated. I can see why people feel that way.

Tell Billary to take that 10 million and PAY HER BILLS!!

By: B in NC

B in NC — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:08 +0000

You don't round percentages in races this close. Accuracy does count for something.

By: Ken

Ken — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:10:58 +0000

What ever the margin, wither or not it is 1 point or 9.34 or 10, the fact is that Hillary Clinton BEAT Obama! Even though Obama out spent her by a margin of 3 to 1, Hillary still BEAT Obama,

It shows that Obama DOES NOT have what it takes to beat Hillary, let alone beat McCain come November.

Hillary Clinton DOES HAVE the popular vote and at the end of this fight, she will have the nomination of the Democrat Party, and will go one to beat McCain in November.

Keep up the fight, all the way to the convention!

By: Helene

Helene — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:10:56 +0000

Of course it is 9,3 and it should in fact be referred to "9". But Clinton tends to exaggerate things as we all know too well ....

By: J. Independent Guy

J. Independent Guy — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:09:34 +0000

The Obama guy has met his match. HA HA HA HA

By: tren

tren — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:09:26 +0000

Now we're cookin'... this is diffenitly some news we can use. Let's just be honest CNN and say that she had a 9 point victory and apologize for the miss information. Don't worry, your ratings will sky rocket for being the only media outlet to tell the truth!

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:08:33 +0000

Val, Fox News? Hahaha..have fun. Hey, you might as well vote for McCain. Seems like most of Hillary's "educated" (wink, wink) supporters are doing that now. They seemed to enjoy the last 8 years and want more of it.

By: s

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:08:20 +0000

I not sure the 1 point will make the difference. I will say this, there is alot of talk about Clinton still being able to win the nominations with her argument to the superdelegates. If this swings in her favor the Democratic party will loose just about every African American vote (those that will show up to vote). It would be completly wrong to take the nomination from Obama if he has the numbers. You think the people in FL & MI are upset, if Hillary's numbers don't add up, African Americans, myself included, will be in an uproar.

By: Tjaye

Tjaye — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:08:15 +0000

It doesn't matter to her because she can tell her people she won by 75% and they would believe her.

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:07:39 +0000

Clinton won; we all agree there. The fact that she's claiming she got the necessary double-digit victory is what is in question. She did not. Again she lies to the American people to try and win this contest. Counting Michigan votes to inflate her popular vote over Obama's....come on, Clinton.

Why can't you close the deal by a 20 point margin except in Arkansas and yet you expect to do it 9 times in a row now? You're just hoping you can drag up some filth on Obama between now and the end of the race so that this might happen. Truly despicable....

By: Jennifer

Jennifer — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:07:32 +0000

Why is this buried in the Ticker and not a headline?

We must have TRUTH in reporting not SPIN.

The media will have plenty of copy when writing about the differences between Obama and McCain.

IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON.

By: darrell

darrell — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:06:16 +0000

By: Bridgette

Bridgette — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:05:57 +0000

This is stupid and not an issue. Let's get real people. It is what it is. The reality of it is when they get through counting he may have more delegates than her. She may win the big states but she can't win the populated areas.

By: dorrett

dorrett — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:05:44 +0000

The fact is that 9.3 is 9 and not 10. We have been taught this for years. 9.5 or greater would have been a 10. The reporting by the media is bias on this one, since it is clear that for a long time pundits/media/Senator Clinton surrogates were all saying that she will win by double digits. Congressman Murtha said it would have been 11%.

I am neutral in this game and am not supporting either candidate and would encourage the media to report facts and do not spin a single digit win into a double digit win. Shame on you CNN/Fox news/MSNBC/ABC etc.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:05:43 +0000

Come on.Hillary does not know the difference between poem reading and sniper fire , you think she is going to get this calculation. I mean, this women, was 10 million in debt a week ago and claims to be ready from Day One to help our economy. Why can't hillary's supporters see this?