(CNN) — The Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws Committee — which is tasked with ruling how to seat Florida and Michigan delegates at the party's summer convention — will meet next month to discuss the situation in Washington, D.C.
"The main item of business on the Committee’s agenda will be the consideration of two pending challenges," write committee co-chairs Alexis Herman and Jim Roosevelt Jr. in a memo sent to members Friday. "We hope you are able to attend this very important RBC meeting."
Hillary = Republican in Democrat clothing
Seat them yes, their votes count no! They are the ones that messed this up and unfortunately they will have to suffer with it. The honest fact if you actually talk to the voters, the majority of them are not that upset. They are more up set over the hoopla given this then anything else. They are however very upset with their leadership, the ones that botched this whole mess.
My disappointment is that, the Democrats presidential contention is turning int a Race thing!! Rep.Clayburn thinks Presdnt. Bill Clinton's behavior is bizarre? (that is from the left) Bill Clinton stuck in the middle! Rev.Jeremiah Wright is rocking America right in the middle! If President William Jefferson Clinton is a racist,then God help us all.Democrats should stop shooting themselves on the foot! It is time we sat down and encouraged dialogues to stop these salvos from everywhere.It is hurting Democrats!!!!! The republicans are smiling all the way to the Bank.Let us stop them there.Not to the White House!
as a voter of michigan, it is NOT fair to have our vote count and I'll be the first to admit it. hillary only won 55% of the state vote, 55%! and that is only with her name on the ballot. Many in my state did not know they could vote uncommitted or just didn't bother to show up and vote at all because our vote didn't count. Our state should either not count at all or be split 50/50.
As a democrat, i am getting really tired of Hillary's desperate ploys to grab this nomination. I understand she is not use to losing, but really...really...what are her chances of getting this nomination...0 to none. I'm not saying give up, just act like a decent human being, stop the negative campaigning, lying, and stop tearing apart our party
Delaware, Obama broke rules in Florida by running TV ads there, but I forgot it's okay if he brakes the rules!
The voters in both states did nothing wrong, it's the politicans, Howard Dean has been very weak with this issue. If their is a nominee without counting all the votes in all the states it will be unfair. Obama has had a lot of legal eagles advising him.
Plain and simple, if Obama is a candidate of "change" he needs to step up and start acting like a leader, not a loser. Use the vote in Florida all candidates were on the ballot. Michigan should have a revote. But if you notice the Obama camp doesn't want there votes to count, this would be fatal in a general election.
Grow up, and count all the votes in all the states.
Uncounted in Florida
Boycotted by Obama Camp
Florida and Michigan deliberately and willfully defied Democratic Party rules. They knew their votes would not count if they did. They chose their path. And now they have to walk it. Why are people unwilling to accept that?
If a child fails to follow school rules, he is suspended. Is the fact that his suspension will not yeild the same advantages to him as may accrue to other students who followed the rules enough to say, "Well we can't suspend him"? No it's not. If you give a party, you have to pay the band! Florida and Michigan must now pay the band for the party that they gave too soon–period!
Let them be counted as they voted, Obama and Edwards took their names off the Michigan ballot and both used it against Hillary in Iowa, and hope that it would look better for them not losing by name in Michigan. Hillary was way ahead in the polls; only campaign ad's that ran in Michigan was for people to vote for "not on ballot". Obama ran nationwide ad's 2 weeks before the Florida Election hoping to help himself there. He has tried to play this to his advantage since day one. So forget the bull from Dean and seat these 2 states as they voted. Not going to make any difference to the super's and we need both of them in the fall.
mike, I have a question for you, why are Obama supporters so hate filled, is it possible for you to post a comment without spewing hate are calling people names. Hate seems to be a big part of the campaign of hope and change. I can't wait to vote third party if this hate filled campaign makes it to the general. I will never under any circumstances vote for Obama, and I say to all his hate filled supproters good luck in the general. The democratic party I belong to doesn't suppress the vote, that started when hope and change came along.
put up the money and have them recounted or shut up about it. People need to stop blaming OBAMA for them not being counted when HILLARY signed on to not have them counted also so its not all his fault and she only wants them counted now that she is behind. Its a fact becuase she was obeying the rules she signed on for until she fell behind. Stick that in your pipe and "not inhale it"!
Hey Billary, what if on Jue 4th we count Michigan and Florida and you still loose? Probably you will ask for a new rule: "the looser should be the nominee because you learn more by loosing than by winning"...hahahahahhahahha...
Hillary tryed to get revotes in Florida and Michigan. Obama didnt want to. Just like now he dosent want to debate. Why should he be the one to make all the decisions. Florida and Michigan votes should be counted. If not they wont vote in the general election. Which is evidently what Obama wants also.
I will be shocked in Emperor Napoleon Howard Dean and Empress Donna Brazile are allowed to steal the votes from the early candidate voters. They came out with their personal endorsements of Obama so early that it was shocking. [First] Florida Democrats had no role in putting the primary so early; the Republican governor and legislature did them in; why not let the vote stand in Florida. [Second] Michigan deserves more thought; perhaps split the vote there. IF those votes are not counted, I'm a longtime member of DNC who will not vote in November for a candidct rigged by Dean and Brazilie.
I hope the DNC does' nt do any thing foolish and decide to override the will of the voters. People should be very lerry of what could happen in a worst case senario, of the DNC counting the Florida and Michigan votes in favor of the only person with their name on the ballot.
I don't trust the leader ship of the DNC, the reason being is because hillery clinton goes way back with Howard Dean in the party. howard does'nt have the courage to tell his friend hillery to get out of the race and gracefully bow out.
Howard looks weak from a leader ship stand point by waiting until this thing has gotten way out of hand to announce he would like a decision soon by the super-delegates.
The so called democratic leader-ship, is up to no good and I believe that we may be very disappointed at their decision to give hillery florida and michigan so hillery can win. What other reason does she have for remaining in the race? Unless she knows something that we don't.
If you want a legitimate democratic candidate you must count the Fl and Mi votes or have a re-vote. Ignoring Fl and Mi plus the non-sense undemocratic caucus system (Obama gets 320 delegates with only 390,000 caucus votes, each caucus vote is approximately equivalent to 8 primary popular vote.) The Democratic party prepare this mess and may sink in it to the misfortune of the American people.
DNC please resolve this mess fairly and to the satisfaction of us Democrats or you may create the "Democrats for McCain" movement.
Must be Fair: Obama chose not to be on the ticket in Michigan.
If the DNC officials are smart they'll find a way to allow voters in Fla. and Michigan a say in this election. This mess was not caused by the voters – it was created by self serving political leaders and it's un-American. Obama will not want this to happen and that tells a lot about who he is.
Wow. And now the DNC will cave so that everyone is represented, even though Michigan and Florida KNEW before moving their primary votes that it would render their delegates unseatable.
And now, Michigan and Florida are going to get their wish, to be the deciding factors in the election.
What's next? Clinton contesting the caucus votes in Iowa? Obama asking for a revote in Pennsylvania?
If the DNC gives in to these challenges, then the flood gates are open and every rule is open to contention.
The fair way to resolve this issue is devide the votes in both states equally.
We need to get rid of Howard Dean. He has done a terrible job and he is the cause of this mess. The Florida and Michigan votes should be counted. Obama chose not to put his name on the ballot in Michigan so that's his problem not Clinton's. I would suggest that the voters from those two states if their delegates are not seated and thier votes not counted, then if Obama is the nominee they should stay at home and not vote or vote for McCain. If their votes are not good enough to be counted for the nomination of the democrat candidate then they should not vote unless its Clinton. We all know Clinton is the better and stronger candidate for the job.
Screw the rules. Go Hillary.
Why doesn't cnn print out and show us the rules, That would be informative because what i've seen is very different than what I hear especially from people like Cafferty who hasn't read the rules and has no idea what he saying unless he's spinning for Obama, I guess he's spinning or he's just dumb. The rules don't say that the delegates can't be seated. and they don't say that the candidates signed not to have them seated. Anyway It's going to be Hillary or McCain
Any time you are 'fair' to people by bending the rules to accommodate them, you are being *unfair* to all the people who did live by the rules. Apparently there are many people who think it's better to be unfair to 48 states than it is to require two states who broke the rules to live by the consequences of their actions...
"Split right in the middle" – What a stupid idea. How does that help the nomination process? Niether of them campained in FL and both of them were on the ballot, so advantage for no one. The votes in FL should be counted as people voted. They should not count Michigan since the Fairy King was not on the ballot. Borak can't win in November, GOP has too many weapons waiting.
We in Michigan know the truth. Obama took his name off the ballet by petition, Hillary left hers on. Obama then had a ground compaign asking people to vote non-committed. Remember people, he was not supposed to be campaigning at all. He did this on purpose to mess up the votes in Michigan. Quit complaining about us wanting our votes to count. As a lifetime Democrat, I demand my vote be counted. The only way I will vote Democrat come this fall, is if Hillary is somehow on the ticket. Obama alone will never get my vote. I am bitter and yes, all votes should count, period.
I am outraged that this is even a consideration. This is not about Hilaary or Obama.. this is about following the rules!
What does this teach Americans? People all over the world?
It seems as if people will say and do anything to win. All of this non- sense is destroying the Democratic party. I am so sick of people trying to change things to suit their own personal needs.
I am disgusted at Clinton, for the simple fact that if she was in Obama's position this would not even be a consideration. I have lost all respect for her. She would fight tooth and nail to keep those votes from being counted and if they are to be seated they need to be seated in half ... since Clinton is not so good with math that is (50\50).
Oh wasn't it Hillary who said in the beginning that FLORIDA and MICHIGAN didn't matter... I wonder what changed... HYPOCRITE!
LOSER!... I will never vote for her.....