(CNN) - The pageantry, the emotion, the packed gymnasiums - basketball fanatics in Indiana and North Carolina have seen it all before.
Democrats in both primary states are beaming about their newfound roles in this extended nomination contest, but long after the bumper stickers and campaign buttons are packed away, and when the awkward sports metaphors are nothing but distant memories, Hoosiers and Tar Heels will always have that familiar sound of sneaker-on-hardwood to fall back on.
Still, with politics and hoops now crossing paths, a handful of basketball icons have become caught in the moment, stepping off the court to endorse presidential candidates this cycle.
Here's a quick look at which basketball celebrities from North Carolina and Indiana have weighed in on the 2008 race, according to Federal Election Commission data and news reports.
NORTH CAROLINA
Where else to start but with University of North Carolina legend Michael Jordan? The careful capitalist once sought to avoid politics, declaring in 1990 that "Republicans buy sneakers, too." But the greatest player of all time apparently leans Democratic - he has contributed $2,100 to another gym rat, Barack Obama.
Jordan's college coach, the vaunted Dean Smith, kept his money close to Chapel Hill this primary season, maxing out his contributions to former North Carolina senator John Edwards. Former UNC center Eric Montross (remember him?) also gave $4,600 to Edwards.
Edwards, a UNC law school alumnus and Tar Heel fan, has been spotted at a few North Carolina basketball games since leaving the race.
Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski, a longtime Republican, has yet to officially weigh in on the race, but he has been spotted with John McCain. In 2006, Coach K - who is also the head coach of the men's U.S. national team - invited the Arizona senator to speak to the basketball squad about his experience as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.
Former Duke stars Shane Battier and Grant Hill are both Obama backers - each has maxed out their primary donations to the Illinois senator.
No high-profile alumni from the Tobacco Road powerhouses of Wake Forest and North Carolina State appear to have contributed campaign cash to a presidential candidate this cycle.
As for the NBA's Charlotte Bobcats, the team's owner is BET mogul Bob Johnson, a high-profile Hillary Clinton backer.
INDIANA
Indiana University legend Calbert Cheaney, a native of Evansville, has endorsed Obama and is campaigning for him in the state. His legendary coach at Indiana, Bobby Knight, hasn't weighed in during the current cycle, but he was a George W. Bush donor in 2004.
NBA star Greg Oden, who played high school ball in Indianapolis and was named Indiana's Mr. Basketball in 2006, endorsed Obama earlier this year on his blog, saying, "He is a very nice man and I am a big fan."
Notre Dame alum and current Chicago Bulls general manager John Paxson gave $500 to Edwards.
Mel and Herb Simon, co-owners of the Indiana Pacers, each contributed $4,600 to Clinton's campaign. Mel Simon also gave $4,600 to Bill Richardson, and Herb Simon gave $2,300 to Chris Dodd.
Indiana basketball icons like French Lick native Larry Bird and former Purdue coach Gene Keady have not weighed in on the presidential race. Nor have voters heard from Hoosier heroes Keith Smart or Steve Alford, who are probably content to keep their sterling legacies intact among Indiana fans.
What do these endorsements mean? Given the track record of celebrity endorsements this election cycle, probably not much. At least not until Serge Zwikker, Randolph Childress and Tom Coverdale weigh in.
– CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby
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Basketball? Yeah that's ok, but it's really about football:
Who will Tony Dungy endorse? (I wish I could underline and bold that)
Since Tony is a reputable man who is highly regarded spiritually as a leader, that's the question that will actually have weight when it comes to Indy voters.. (no, I'm actually not kidding on this one.)
I think thoughout the history of the American Presidency that the only First Lady ever qualified to be President was Elenor Roosevelt and Hillary is not Elenor Roosevelt.
GO TAR HEELS!!!!
and
GO OBAMA!!!
I am an Obama supporter, but just like Ohio and now PA, I will not hold my breath for an Obama victory. I thought that the voters of those states would see the queen for what she really is, a liar. But they still vote for her and she keeps going on destroying Obama's chance. I thought PA and Ohio would be objective and smart in their decision, but they did not. So in the end I hold out hope that will be the finial straw, but as we have seen, she will stop at nothing to destroy my party and my country. So I have decided that nothing will change until June when the supers have to decide. So I'll see ya'll then!!!!!
No beer drinking, bowlin, bitter death hunting idiots here... Barack will finally be able to relate to the people. Lets see if hillary has a jump shot.
HE WILL BOTH STATE
OBAMA 08
If you are going to mentioned the despised DOOK and the univerisity of Chapel Hill Tar Heels, then mention the school with the largest fan base in the Wolfpack state of North Carolina, NC State. They may have had a couple of down seasons, and we know the Tar Heel biased sports media absolutely hates the Pack, but failure by your, or more importantly Obama and Clinton to understand the size of the NC State fan base is a fatial mistake if they hope to have a chance here in November.
That being said, Obama in a landslide over Tar-Hillary.
Grant Hill is an Obama supporter?? Wasn't his mother and Hilary Clinton roommates in college?
The last two sentences say it all, "not much."
YAWN
Stop making news and report it.
======Vote Smart, Vote Obama======
Sounds like everyone's for Obama or Edwards. Awesome.
Clinton would be better than McCain, however she is like Bush in one regard: When engaged in a war she cannot win, on borrowed money, she does not just pull out.
Johnny Boy! I Agree With you!
American journalism at its finest. Who cares?
We need to hire a CEO for the job.One that can be fired as soon as he screws up,we shouldnt have to wait for years while they run the company into the ground or steal millions of dollars of our money.
To the voters of North Carolina and Indiana: BE LIKE MIKE... and vote for Obama!
Please give money to Obama so we can campaign and stop the two Clinton's from stealing this election from someone who can really help put this country back on track.
Obama 08
While everyone comes on here and say so what?!?! who cares about celebrity endorsement blah blah blah...
no one is tellign you how to vote, its just simply fun to see who endorses who and who gave to who.....
we need some kind of diversion from all the negativity!!
OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is destroying Obama!
And I dont think he will win at all if his supporters keep calling people names, just because we are not taken in by his empty suit!
I was a huge Duke fan, but no longer. How can I support a coach who goes with McCain. Alas, I need a new school to root for!
Uh oh. I can hear Hillary now... "I love basketball. You know, I played basketball when I was a young girl with my uncle. There were no women's team. I tried out for the men's team. I was good. But, it was a guy's sport back then so, I wasn't picked"
NO SHE CAN"T!
North Carolina and Indiana should be thanking Hillary for being able to exercise their right to vote. If the Obama supporters had their way, they would have been cheated out of the chance to have their say in this primary election.
I for one am happy to see all the support for her in these respective states and am enjoying having a chance to see them in the national spotlight as they are right now.
So, North Carolina and Indiana residence please show your appreciation by voting for Hillary in your primary's. She's on your side now and will be when she is our president next year.
What does all this mean...Nothing. It is just as important as who Bruce Sprinsteen or another "star" is voting for. Don't let someone else make up your mind. Think for yourself NC & IN.
Anyone whose vote is influenced by the endorsements of sports stars, or other celebrities, doesn't deserve the vote their rights guarantee.
The people of Indiana and North Carolina need to stop and smell the coffee.Not so long ago,Americans would have stood at arms against anyone who said or even hinted "GD America" and now here we are voting to nominate someone who though,He denounced comments to this effect,His pastor says he is a Politician and had to say that.Let us stop and think about that before we rush to the polls and vote for Obama.
Hillary "08"
I am an Obama supporter. Frustrated at the 'politics' being played in this race, the spin by Media, and Hillary and a Former PRESIDENT disgracing another democrat and bringing down the party. But thats politics. I thought Obama had this sewn up, but here in the 21st century with 24 – 7 media coverage loving a good fight, a crazy pastor, a mis-statement, and playing the race thing with no regard to what else is going on in the rest of the world, just WHY CAN'T OBAMA FINISH THE DEAL. Its like throwing gasoline on Hillarys fire. So endorsements of Bobby Kennedy, Babe Ruth, Gandi, and Mickey Mouse wouldn't matter...what the media spins does.
Amen Johnny Boy.
I've never seen such a ruthless conniving woman.
It's sad, but when i meet a Hillary supporter...i automatically think they must be nuts. Thankfully, i don't meet that many!!!
I do not understand the disjoint between Obama's message of "hope" and the constant malicious postings by his supporters. Clearly, you don't like Hillary, but your comments don't oppose her policies, it is purely on your perception of her as a person. With a few exceptions, we haven't attacked Obama in that way.
My decision to vote for Hillary was she has clearly articulated her positions and has solid plans to fix America. It is that lack of substance that troubles me about Obama, and why I lean to McCain if he gets the nomination. Hope is fine, but the way Washington and the rest of the world operates is not going to magically change if Obama gets elected. We need experience...we need solid direction.
If you want to change our minds then post with something more than rhetoric that Clinton is evil and the rest of the nonsense that is spewed.
We are witnessing the destruction of the Democratic party. Obama should run as an independent.
OBAMA AL THE WAY
KIRBY
TAMPA, FL
Many of them (1 in 7 in PA) actually admitted that they are voting race.
How many are voting race that aren't admitting it? Vastly more.
I have zero sympathy for the Kentuckians, Pennsylvanians, Ohioans and West Virginians who say that the economy is their #1 issue, but then give their support to McCain over Obama, especially those that also give their support to Clinton over McCain. They deserve McCain and whatever Republican policies he ushers in.
Clearly their #1 issue isn't the economy, it's race.
Racism is so deep.
Obama is a great baskball player. Here goes Hillary...
Obama's slam dunk
Go home Hillary and bring your supportes with you
I agree with Johnny Boy......not much will change until June, but I am hopeful Indiana is NOT another Ohio. I know it is not another Pennsylvania because it isn't full of elderly people and Hillary doesn't have the family ties and Dem machine (except for Evan...who's a real cutie...but boring and wrong in his politics).
So, Obama, stay focused on the prize and play the game to the finish. Be smart, don't make stupid remarks, but quickly "fight" back if you're attacked. And PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE not more debates. I'm still furious at George and will never watch This Week again. I hope his rating fell to an all time low.
I guess we can expect Hillary to say in here campaign that she used to play in a basketball team in her school the same way she said she used to play in a junior soccer team in high school(the school Hillary was attending didn’t have a soccer team). Then maybe someone will ask her when was the last time she played and she will answer with something like: "that is not relevant right now"
I never thought I'd agree with someone named Johnny Boy, but I do. I finally see why Republicans so despised the Clintons for eight years. They never back down, always burn forth, and spin and spin and spin, refusing ever to talk straight. It's very ... frustrating.
With that said, if Hills is the nom (and I have my fingers crossed she won't be), I'll be rooting for the duo to pull the same tactics on McCain. I'd rather have her than another Repub in the White House.
Obama is clearly the next President of the United States. Hillary knows this. He has shown the leadership, savvy, genius and motivation to ignite the electorate with his upcoming 50-state strategy. Unlike Clinton, McCain and other talking heads, he isnt talking about the red, blue or purple states but the United States.
It's amazing to hear Hillary talk about the big states needed to deliver victory in November. That's Washington politics of old. Here's the bottom line:
Fact: The Republicans didn't win one Democratic incumbent seat in the mid-term elections in '06. They understand the far-reaching effects of an Obama Presidency for Congress with his fund-raising ability and 50-State Strategy. The formula to beat Clinton is a lot easier based on her short-sighted campaign. She lost 10 straight contests to try to win 2 big states and she is still operating in the RED!!!
Obama '08
CNN - Please post this!!!!
Why isnt the media covering why the Clintons had to go L.A. today? The public desreves to know.. google paul v Clinton
Pack it up Hillary! Its a SLAM DUNK!!!!!
Obama can win both states. Hopefully he will.
Yes We Can 2008
I think these young men should just stick to playing basketball.
A vote for HIllary Clinton means never having to say you're sorry to the citizens of the United States of America.
I have gathered some numbers based on the democratic primary to show what will happen in November if Obama is the nominee.
The democratic primary is different as it shares delegates based on percentage but in the general election it is winner takes all in each state. Each state won is that many delegates to winning the overall count. So if we treat the democratic primary just like the general election this is what we are looking at against McCain.
I have taken each state that has won by Obama or Clinton and given all the delegates of that state to the majority winner. I even gave Obama all the upcoming states and made him the winner giving him the delegates from them. I did not include Florida or Michigan to avoid any argument. This includes Guam and others that are counted in the democratic primary. This is only actually won states and future states given to Obama:
Obama won 37 "states"
Hillary won 17 "states"
However in a general election setting:
Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 1750
If you count Florida and Michigan which Hillary won and polls show that even if Obama campaigned in those states Hillary would have won them at that time:
Obama delegate count: 1486
Hillary delegate count: 2118
If we gave Florida to Obama and Michigan to Hillary as polls suggest a primary today would give them:
Obama delegate count: 1692
Hillary delegate count: 1907
The bottom line is that Hillary has won in a general election model based on primaries of the democratic party and even giving Obama all the next primary states coming up. The reason Hillary won is she won all the big states practically? These states are historically won by the Republican party as to why Bush beat Kerry in 2004. Therefore if Obama cannot win the big states that Republicans tend to win he has no chance against McCain in the general election. Hillary has the only chance of being a democratic president in 2008.
So do you want a Republican in office or do you want a Democrat? The choice is clear who is more electable in November.
Go Heels and Go Hillary, unaffiliated in NC for Hillary, I don't think it's going to be a blowout here for Obama like he thinks. I'm predicting he might get it by 2 or 3 %. I trust that Hillary won't give away our country, sorry I can't say the same for Obama, that's what it comes down to for me, his lack of character strength to make a tough decision. I've tried and tried to consider voting for him if he's the nominee because I don't want a republican, I just won't be able to. I don't think he's strong enough to stand up for this country, he didn't stand up for it in his own church against those strong willed people = he's not as strong as them.
I think these young men should just stick to playing basketball. They don't seem to know anything about politics.
A vote for Hillary Clinton means never having to say you're sorry.
It isnt about "winning" anymore. Clinton is going to walk away from this having left 1/2 the Democrats wondering if the Super delegates picked the wrong candidate. Come November, we should have an answer. We will all have to live with that answer. Brace yourselves for the worst.
You got that right. Hillary won't stop. IF, and that's a Big IF. If she was to some how win due to her calculations only. She will probably be too tired to do anything in the White House due to all this fighting. My concern is will Bill Clinton be running things again. Because he's doing more campaigning then Hillary seem like. 2 against 1. No, 3 against one... Bill, Hillary, McCain vs Obama.
Obama is truly bringing about change. It must be really intimidate Hillary and McCain after all these years of the same old politics. And Young candidate upsets the way things use to be for them. But, that's what Hope and Change do to you. It shakes things up. "Go Obama"
To put it in basketball analogy.....The game is on the line. The stakes are high. Do you put in the unproven rookie or the seasoned veteran? Why would you treat the presidency any differently? The rookie may have some pretty fancy moves but if he doesn't make the shot then it's pointless.
Unfortunately we have become a nation that love's hype and flashiness. The fancier the better. But this country was built on the strong, the solid and just plain determination of plain people. And the only way this country is going to survive is to maintain our strong foundation. Hillary Clinton is a proven entity. She's solid and unbreakable. We know that. We are witnessing that on an everyday basis. Obama has crumbled. His followers have crumbled. The flashiness is falling apart like a cheap dollar store trinket. Every citizen in this country has an obligation to make the right choice for our future, Our well being. You wouldn;t trust your baby with a stranger. Why would you want to trust your and your families entire future to be handled by a man with absolutly no experience and who can do nothing more than utter uh , uh, uh...when asked the hard questions?
Forget the hype. See through it. Trust your gut with what you KNOW. Life as you know it may depend on it.
Anyone who plays ball, or any sport for that matter, knows there are rules to be followed, not changed or the end goals changed to suit desires or change the score if the end doesn't come out the way we want them to.
Time to give Hillary the time off to rest she so desparately needs so she suffers no more delusions about sniper fire, for whom she was named, her daughter at the twin towers on 9/11 …
Indiana and North Carolina, please do your part to help this poor woman.
Vote Obama!
jonny boy are you kidding me? osama i mean obama is the one that is ruining the dem party. he is deviding the party by playing the race card whenever it suits him.
Hillary Clinton all the way!
Why choose Obama so he can tear down this country with his Muslim roots? He's a chicken! He's a wimp! He don't want to sling mud because he knows he has too much on his back that would easily tarnish his reputation. Put the man on a podium with a prepared speech and he rocks the house. Throw him in a debate and he studders more than anyone I have ever heard in my life. THAT is inexperience for you. Now he wants to run around and say "lets campaign instead of debate" because he don't want himself handed back to himself in another primary.
PA and Ohio seen right through Obama's lies and they see him for the inexperienced man that he is that does more talking about stuff he knows next to nothing about instead of stepping aside and giving the nomination to a woman that deserves it way more than he does. It's that typical male ego that cannot be destroyed.
Hillary Clinton 2008!
It's not yes we can.. it's YES WE WILL!
Typical. The owners support Clinton. The troops are for Obama.
Obama 08
Well... I think the planned pick up game, with what I believe is with the college students that registered the most people, will really bring Obama out of the "elitist " world and show people that he is just one of the guys... I like seeing more of Obama doing regular things like Basketball...playing with his children, and just being Barack... You dont see this at all from ANY presidential candidates. It breaks the mold and makes him more Human...
Go Obama!
"Destroying Obama's chance"???
Give us a break Johnny Boy.
Obama is the one who jumped in knowing it would racially divide our country. And look at us now!
OH and PA voted with their instincts and weren't swayed by how many times they saw his face on TV.
CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!
Slow news day?
I think some you people are living in a "fairy tale" world. Obama is a great candidate and the only reason people don't vote for him is because he is black. So we need to stop kidding ourselves. Women vote for Hillary because she is a woman. There gender basis and race basis. We all know Obama is an exceptional individual compared to Clinton. Look how Her husband and her twist things and the old white folks in PA fall for it. Nafta took your jobs away and you voted for the people that supported it. They are right when they uneducated people vote for Hillary lol.
Indiana isn't like Ohio. I'm voting early for Obama in an hour.
Time for Barack to do a SLAM DUNK!!!
good for him
Johnny Boy, When Obama says he never heard Rev. Wright comments, was that a lie or just a little white fib?
I cannot express how disappointed I am by the results in PA. People openly expess their discontent with senator Clinton (overwhelmingly viewed as not honest and untrustworthy, and an extremely high unfavorable rating), yet they still voted for her. To add to my displeasure and confusion, a large majority expressed their opinion that Obama would be the party's nominee, but they still voted for Clinton. If people cannot see through her underhanded tactics or her disingenous attempts to change the metrics of the race to whatever best suits her at the time, our country is not going to get any better over the next 4 years.
I cannot express how disappointed I am by the results in PA. People openly expess their discontent with senator Clinton (overwhelmingly viewed as not honest and untrustworthy, and an extremely high unfavorable rating), yet they still voted for her. To add to my displeasure and confusion, a large majority expressed their opinion that Obama would be the party's nominee, but they still voted for Clinton. If people cannot see through her underhanded tactics or her disingenous attempts to change the metrics of the race to whatever best suits her at the time, our country is not going to get any better over the next 4 years.
If Obama was a while man, he would still be sitting in the Illinois state legislature.
I feel that Obama could easily scoff at anything Clinton has to say regarding his mistakes and put them down as too small to bother with , go ahead strongly on the important issues of the day letting us know how he would strongly handle them, Stop the defense and stress superiority to smallness of mind bickering. GET ON WITH IT OBAMA Dottie ( old enough to know it works)
Hillary will do anything, say anything and even go any distance if she have to in order to win the nomination. I don't know why people can't see that she's a liar, I mean a big liar.
JB, Obama destroyed his own chances. All Clinton did was expose the imposter. For that we thank her. Even if she doesn't win and Obama loses the general election, those of us who love our country and support it with our service and that of our sons and daughters will forever be grateful to her.
She won't win the nomination because the party leaders think they have a hit the fountain of youth for the democratic party. But sometimes these matters are illusional. What appears to be a saviour to some, appears to be the devil to others.
There will be a day when a Black man or woman will be president. but this is not the day. Not because of ingrained prejudice in some people, but because Barak is not the right Black to bring this about.
He is not a Black American, he is an African-American, 1st generation, therefore he nor his family have the Black experience of Slavery and denigration suffered by many of my Black friends. There are thousands of well qualified Americans of African descent, and Barak is not one of them.
Give me and our generation a Black entrepenuer, lawyer, doctor or even a well established politician that cares for his country and we will overwhelmingly support that person. Not because of race but because of accomplishments and ability.
Go Obama!!! Heck I saw Obama's basketball skills with that 3 point shot. It will be cool to have a president who has skill.. While I am more a football fan, basketball is cool too..
Obama 08
Johnny Boy, don't be discouraged about PA voters. Sen. Clinton has roots there and many older people live in PA. Therefore, it will be hard for them to accept change in any manner. Also remember that it is the older people who keeps racism alive in the country. Obama did well in PA. To close that gap from 25 points to 9 was a great accomplishment.
when you hear them saying that Obama are having problems appealing to the white blue collar male voters, they are actually saying that he has problems reaching many that can't look beyond race. No one thinking clearly would believe and have faith in Hillary after that Bosnia lie she told as well as the money they recieved from the Columbians.
I am hoping that the voters in Indiana and North Carolina will rise above the fray, and vote for CHANGE.
Vote for a decent man, who has been attacked from both sides, Clintons & Fox News, plus the AM radio hate-mongers.
I hope that the people will rise up and say ENOUGH to the politics of destruction!
Please Indiana, think for yourselves! Don't be fooled!
OBAMA 08!
obama OBVIOUSLY has this thing wrapped up. dunno why hillary thinks i would support her after the awful campaign she has run. just like her campaign, her presidency would be fraught with bad selections (penn, solis-doyle) and bad management (she can't pay her bills). if she were running a business, it would have gone under by now.
And the point of all this was...?
This is the ultimate irony for the Obama supporters (the smart and educated people) to ponder:
IF Obama is our nominee, it is because the Washington Insiders that he speaks against (Superdelegates) GIVE the nomination to him.
It will NOT be because he convinced the electorate with his inspiring words of hope and change.
Hillary STILL got 50% of the vote even being sabotaged and throttled and handicapped.
Hey, Johnny Boy
You say Clinton is destroying the country? Get a grip Pal,
Obama is the anti american along with his wife and pastor.
Listen Up
1. Won't wear the american flag pen
2.20 years with a pastor that hates America
3. Thinks Penn people are bitter
4. Will not put his hand on his heart(when everyone else did) when
the National Anthum played.
You will never hear Hillary say she is not proud of her country.
Obama is a liar and that is what they proved on the last debate.
INDIANA WILL MAKE THE CALL TO SEND HILLARY HOME.
INDIANA OLDSTERS READ, & ARE LESS HYPOCRITICAL.
Johnny Boy...what gives you the right to call Clinton a liar?? Obama has said a lot of things but those are just"misspoken". He's got a lot of explaining to do when it comes to Wright, Ayers, his wife. No one calls him or them liars so why don't you Obama supporters knock the nastiness off and act like human beings for a change.
Youtube Hillary Clinton Peter Paul
GO HOOSIERS GO.
GO INDIANA GO & GIVE US OBAMA.
MUCH LOVE TO YOU.
If Obama wins NC and Indiana will Billary finaly let it go???
In PA it was the old bags and racist bigots that put Hillary first.
Everyone else with open hearts, and open minds and intellect beyond the 1960's can see Obama's promise of Hope for our country.
These PA folks are still in the '60's.
SISTERS GO OUT THERE & VOTE FOR OBAMA.
VOTE FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN.
THAT FUTURE IS NOT IN IRAQ WHERE HILLARY SENT THEM.
Clinton has no chance of winning
I am a repubican who has become energized to particpate in the process for the first time by Barack.
Unfortunately by their actions during this primary process, the Clintons have tarnished thier legacy and sadly HRC's amibition to become president will never materialize.
I THINK THE REALITY OF THE POLITICS IS GOING TO WIN,AND NEGATIVE CAMOAIGN FOR SIMPLE FOLKS WITH NO EDUCATION
ALWAYS WORKS. MANY SIMPLE MINDED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY STILL THINK THAT WE WENT TO THIS WAR,BANK RUPTED THE COUNTRY.4000 DEATHS BECAUSE WE WERE DEFENDING UNITED STATE FROM ANOTHE TERRORIST ATTACK.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNTERSTAND NAFTA,ECONOMY,OBAMA MUST REMIND THEM OF THE CLINTONS LIES,AND SCANDELS THAT OCCUPY HIS PRESIDENCY,AND RESPECT FOR THIS OFFICE.MAYBE THEY COULD UNDESTAND THAT.
FAY MOGHTADE, FROM VA
Hoosiers are too smart to listen to Hillary's negative campaign attacks. It will end here!
I saw Magic Johnson on TV and he was supporting Hillary–just as much influence and star power as Jordan–so there!
Just look at the dynamics of these endorsements and you have to laugh. All male, sports teams. CNN this is a new low for you.
H Clinton claims of more popular votes is just another example of how dishonest she is. She ignores the DNC rules for FLD and MCHG just because by doing so it gives her some advantage. She can destroy the DP, she doesn't care. She is selfish and untrustworthy
I am so disgusted with this whole mess. The media keeps focusing on Rev. Wright when that horrid monster of a woman is about to go to court. Where is the coverage of Clinton Vs. Paul?? For God's sakes, people, she can't even manage her own campaign! Oh yes, please, let's elect this woman to fix our health care. She doesn't even pay her own employee's health insurance! what is wrong with everyone!! Hillary Clinton and her dishonest, disloyal, snaky skank of a lying racist husband are the bottom of the filth barrel of this country. The skum that rests in my toilet tank. God help us if she steals, lies and cheats her way into the nomination. I have no faith in the American people anymore after this election. I have never seen such a bunch of idiots in my life.
Well , Johnny Boy has it ever occured to you that Ohio and PA are the smart ones.
This is a democratic process and should run it's course.
So far Obama has not done well enough to emerge as the winner and that is dispite outspending any other candidate.
Ha ha ha, Johnny Boy! Give it up. NOBAMA! Talk about a lying, racist, elitist liar!!
GO McCAIN!!! Which, of course, we know you will. NOBAMA cannot beat McCain even IF he get the dems nomination. Give it up.
NC is Nascar Country and will vote for HILLARY!!!!!!!
Good, lets see if Hillary will get hooped.
Someone please stop the madness! Clinton, Obama one or the other will be the next president. It is obvious that as long as these two keep being pitted against each other, over ridiculously trivial political fodder, unrest and insecurity will reign supreme in the democratic party. Carville or however you spell his name was correct the other day when he implied that no one cares or needs to care about what he or any of the other pundits have to say. It is time for serious conversation about serious issues that will affect our country's future. All of the candidates need to get control over there organizations and get back to clean, issue based debate to win my vote! And as a side note , the media, and pseudo-media like Glenn Beck and others need to get back to work in their professions vice trying to force feed America their misinformed, narrow and somewhat idiotic viewpoints.
Policy matters! I'm pretty objective, if obama could explain what he will do once he was president, give more detail about his policy on health insurance, foreign policy, how to develop the economy, i could vote for him! If he can't give specific details, then he isnot ready!
For anyone that doesn't think people in Indiana will vote for Obama just because he is a baller, think again. This alone is worth 1 or 2 points at least, which in this primary, could be the difference. Hoosiers are obsessed with basketball to a level that is simply not seen anywhere else. Per capita, Indiana has sent more players to the NBA than any other state.
Don't worry, Obama will get the nomination a couple days after May 6. Even if Hillary wins Indiana. The supers will rush to Obama due to the fact that he is winning most states, most swing states, popular vote, has over 70% of young voters which are most of the new voter registrations, bringing in Independents and Republicans.
The race is over, Hillary loses. The End
I'm tired of people talking down on Hillary! Obama and his campaign have been extremely negative towards Hillary and have turned most of his supporters into HATERS!! How's that for the politics of change?
I think Obama is a politician like the rest. Has everybody fooled. But I tell you this much, if he wins and gets into the white house, I'm holding him up to his message which is bogus anyways.
So if someone votes for Clinton, they're stupid, undeducated, racist, foolish, etc etc and only the Obama backers are wise enough, smart enough, educated enough to be able to see whats really best for America and everybody else should just shut up. If that isn't elitest BS I don't know what is. Thats why so many dem are going to leave the party over the foul attitudes that permiate the Obama camp. Hillary isn't splitting the party, your driving away Obama's only chance of victory and you have no one to blame but yourselfs. Although you'll blame everybody else but your precious darling Barack.
KB & Johnny Boy,
Google......... rcp average.....This is an average of anywhere from three to eight polls..... Obama is ahead by 3% points
Good Luck
Obama is going to take Indiana I feel. He has more endorsements. Yes it's a dissapointment for PA and OH voters that didn't give Obama a chance. Hilary is not the blue collar figure making 100 billion with her husband in 8 yrs. But the peopel in OH and PA that gave Obama a chance congrads to you and YES WE CAN
Obama 08 enough said.
Keep Flying to your strengths Hillary!
You are the only viable candidate left-let's prove it again!
Hillary or McCain 08
How about Reggie Miller? He could pull another 2-3% for Obama.
I wonder if Hillary is thinking of playing games here too???
Slam Dunk – GO OBAMA!!!!
Johnnyboy it's too bad you are hypnotized by the Obama mantras. He's a goose in a large field of hunters and Hillary isn't the problem for him. Its going to be the Republicans if Obama is nominated.
His house of cards built on the backs of naive young people will come falling down on his butt when the going starts to get rough. He is nothing more then shinny sparkles and New Year's Eve goose whistles. He has a good platform but he doesn't have the guts or political expertise to pull it off. Anyway, who would want to vote for someone that calls everyone a racist when they don't see things his way? To think that he actually smeared the former president of the United States Bill Clinton with saying that he made racist statements was the total last straw for me. Bill served the African American community to a T when he was president, we'll see how good Obama does if he is nominated and actually becomes president. Obama won't get my vote even though I have been voting democrat for 40 years, Clinton 08 or nobody.
Hey Clyburn....Why don't you say something about Wright's and Obama's lying bizzarre. Why because they are African Americans. You are bizarre. Grow up.
You are the one who is bizzare and a disgrace. Racial discrimination against African American has been overused and misused. Actually you are now beginning to be racial. To get away with bad comments and bad behavior you will always use the racial issue as an EXCUSE. Shut up.
Beware North Carolinians and Indianians….Obama lied and just a Politician.
The DNC, the democratic party elites, screwed up.
They fixed the election for Obama- then...
All the Kennedy, Kerry , Shriver endorsements advantaged Obama.
The Celebrity bandwagon led by Oprah, advantaged Obama.
The infatuated Media and their biased coverage and scrutiny of the candidates, advantaged Obama.
Flawed caucus format- advantaged Obama
Discounting Fl and Mi voters- advantaged Obama.
All that and he STILL just has a narrow, narrow lead.
Now the DNC will force the Superdelgates to go against the rules and vote for Obama- in hopes of salvaging this chaotic primary mess.
They do that, not because those are the rules- the rules are quite the contrary. They do it because they are afraid of alienating the newly registered democrats and the very vocal African American community.
They should worry more about alienating the REST of America- including 50% of the democrats who will not vote for Obama.
Would you remain a faithful constituent for more than twenty years of a church that preaches racism? Would racist sermons inspire you to have your children baptized by the minister who delivered the racists sermons? Those sermons are public now ... in their entirety! Have you listened to them? Clearly Obama has ... for more than twenty years those sermons have served as his spiritual guidance in life! There is no ifs, ands or buts about it, Rev. Wright is a bona fide racist! Those sermons also have played a HUGE role in deepening the racial divide that remains in this country. Obama preaches unity while attending that church? Are you all blind? Obama is a smart guy ... too smart to convey the spiritual message that he prays to every Sunday on a political stage! Vote on actual merits America, not emotional speeches that promise change just because the speaker knows that, that's what you all want to hear.
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The DNC, the democratic party elites, screwed up.
They fixed the election for Obama- then...
All the Kennedy, Kerry , Shriver endorsements advantaged Obama.
The Celebrity bandwagon led by Oprah, advantaged Obama.
The infatuated Media and their biased coverage and scrutiny of the candidates, advantaged Obama.
Flawed caucus format- advantaged Obama
Discounting Fl and Mi voters- advantaged Obama.
All that and he STILL just has a narrow, narrow lead.
Now the DNC will force the Superdelgates to go against the rules and vote for Obama- in hopes of salvaging this chaotic primary mess.
They do that, not because those are the rules- the rules are quite the contrary. They do it because they are afraid of alienating the newly registered democrats and the very vocal African American community.
They should worry more about alienating the REST of America- including 50% of the democrats who will not vote for Obama.
Watching Hillary look straight into the camera and lie with severals times with so much ease, makes me cringe. Sen Clinton and i mean to be very respectful, cannot be trusted with power. Look what she does, twisting every single thing and running away with just about anything for to win. She says just about anything to win, can you imagine that combined with power. Good Lord, we are in for a might rough ride in congress. Everything will end up in deadlock, and nothing will be done. Besides she starts with 57% of Americans thinking that she's a dishonest, and rightfully so. Can't we as americans see this?
Sen Obama on the other hand will be considerate of the other (Republican) sides' argument and then working hard at educating them on why their positions are wrong and at the same time presenting the democratic course to the american people, in order to pressure their republican representative may just be the way to go. I believe this is what Sen Obama has consistently advocated to the american people.
Dialogue is key in succesful governance. Sen Clinton has not proved that she can negotiate with all americans.
Guys the game is up .....OBAMA is in charge. Vote wisely and sensibily.
Here's a chance for Obama to make up for the "bowling" incident: Basketball is actually something that he KNOWS how to play! He lived for that sport back in his old school days. I wonder if he's still got it?
When all is done, Obama has the most delegates, the most votes, etc. I think he should declare himself the nominee in a discreet way and summon all Democrats to back him in the remaining primaries so there can be a unified party asap. Voters should in essence, abandon their attachment to Hilary, and get on the Obama wagon. It is crazy for people to go out and vote for the one who is not going to win.
this is the stupidest article I have ever seen.... EVER... and the endorsement of uneducated dopes is somehow beneficial? has anyone ever heard Greg Oden speak? You'd have better conversations with a Macaw.
Play with Obama today… and fight in Iraq with John in Nov.
America wake up- Obama is a demagogue- the slickest of politicians.
But he can not reach most of America.
The democrats know who to nominate so that they will always lose the election.
Obama= lose in Nov.
You know, I do believe Coach K. "might" go for Senator McCain but I won't be surprised if otherwise......I mean, not HIllary, LOL!!!
But you know what? I do think my boy can take both Indiana and North Carolina. I think is safe to say that North Carolina is going to go for my boy, I think he'll win a very good amount but Indiana though, now that's a different story...
I know Indiana votes Rep in the general election but I really do believe if my boy can not only take Indiana on May 6 but also if he takes the "Hoosier State", I really do believe he has a great chance to take Indiana in the GE(General Election). To me, Indiana should be close, and I'm actually gonna do more research whether my boy can take the "Hoosier State."
In Indiana Hillary will win by a 11% or more percentage margin, We do not like Obama.
North Carolina will go Republican in the general election. It won't help Obama against John McCain. Hillary would be a stronger candidate because she can attract some of the Christian and Evangelical voted which is more important in the general election.
I think Barack should challenge Hillary to a game of HORSE. Now that would be deal closer!
A trial was set for March 2007, but it was delayed due to an appeal of a lower-court's decision to dismiss Sen. Clinton as a defendant. The California Supreme Court upheld the decision, but Sen. Clinton, nevertheless, will be required to testify under oath along with her husband as material witnesses.
Seven years ago Peter Paul began whistleblowing to the government and alerting the media of numerous illegalities committed by Hillary and Bill Clinton in order to win Hillary’s first election to public office.
The multi-million dollar donor to Hillary’s Senate campaign that caused Hillary’s finance director to be indicted and tried in May, 2005, for hiding his contributions, and whose complaint to the FEC resulted in a finding that Hillary’s campaign broke the law resulting in the only FEC fine imposed against Hillary’s campaign, will begin the discovery process leading to a trial in Los Angeles later this year of the Clintons and others for destroying Paul’s public company.
The lawsuit claims that Peter Paul was fraundulenty induced to make a 1.2 million in-kind contribution to Senator Hillary Clinton's 2000 senate campaign in exchange for former President Bill Clinton to be a rainmaker for this company once he left the White House. Paul claims that former President Clinton backed out of the $17 million deal, and his company collapsed
CNN, WHY IS THIS NOT ALL OVER THE NEWS. is it being saved for the republicans to use in case the superdelegates are forced to give Sen. Clinton the nomination? How far would the Clinton's go to win.
When I hear someone say that– "people are not as dumb as the Clinton's think", I tend to disagree strongly.
Just look at the folks who are still out there talking on behalf of an "impeached family"; someone who lied to this nation again and again!
Look at the people who continue to donate their hard-working $$ to someone with $109 million, who can afford to loan her campaign.
Most people in this nation are either "dumb" or are simply "racist". Give me a better explanation than the above. I will read your comments.
Hillary is manipulative, vindictive, devisive, shameless, back-stabbing person. Why people keep voting for her?????
CLINTONS=REPUBLICANS
Wake up democrats, you need our support Independents, but we do not see you being very smart on this one. All the support that Obama is having form Independents and some Republicans will go away if you Democrats do not stand up, have a back bone and finish this bloody race that the Clintos + Republicans are doing to your Party.
Democrats + Independents + Some Republicans = Win for Obama!
There should be an openly televised debate between Hillary and Obama where superdelegates ask the questions with no time limit. It could be run in a similar fashion as a congressional hearing. This should happen as soon as possible. Hillary is ready. Will Obama accept the challenge? I will defer to Peloci and Dean to determine how many superdelegates can ask questions of the candidates. The entire group of superdelegates could come up with a list of questions and then trim it down to the most important questions that would determine how they vote. Hopefully the superdelegates will use their political savy to vote for the greater good of the general population.
Hillary is our choice, 100%, and she's not asking for any time-outs to relax on an island instead of working hard to get her message across to the country!
Go Hillary!!! You are the only one who can beat McCain and Democrats keep getting the proof!
If I were 20s, I mignt like to hear from Barack "hope", "Change". The younger, more emotional. Till you become older, you will think about something more carefully. How to hope? How to change? If Obama is elected, he may be stuned. Country is not like a family, a school, even a state, is that so easy to make change? How can you change? Easy to talk, difficult to do. You even wanted to drop out debate, how can you handle a country when something happen. It is not joke, it is for a whole country. Hillary is much more trustable, stable because of her experience, she can fight all the way for American, she won't give up American if there is something happen. But Obama, I can't see that at all. So think about more things, you will make wise choice.
Question: How has the Peter Paul vs Clinton controversy managed to stay out to of the media? You've got Bill Ares and Rev Wright broadcast in an infernal loop...the the Clinton's past seems unmarred? How is that fair coverage?
There is ONE question we all should be asking our selves
Which candidate takes lobbyists and Pac monies?
If the voters answer that one question to them selves then the answer should be clear with out a doubt that who can move this country forward and get thing done in Washington for the people who put them in office and be held accountable to the people of the United States. Just in some of you voters don’t know I will list them in order below
Barack Obama – None
Another debate is a waste of time and only free advertising for Clinton. She talks about being outspent. She did not have the money.
OBAMA TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully both basketball states will recognize a winner when they see him...yes, I mean Barack Obama.
And go Tar Heels! (my favorite college bball school)
Tim, I agree, the race is over. We need to brush her aside and move on to the issues and start dealing with McCain. Hillary has shown she would not make an effective president, so I say we should ignore her and move on to the General. She has lost. Bring it on, John, whatcha got?
It amazes me that if Clinton is ahead, or if she wins the nomination, then SHE IS STEALING IT, why??? Crooked Caucus' , selective memory blocks about the good Bill Clinton did for EVERYONE but himself, he did something totally stupid for himself, but others had it one heck of a lot better than they do now, that's for sure. No one will STEAL THE NOMINATION, Obama or Clinton, Hopefully they will pick one who can and will win in November. It's not about now, it's about November. There are going to be people who will go to McCain if they are really against one person for some reason you can not stop that. That's why this is America., you get a choice but we need to fix the primary mess we made. Make it simpler and vote, no caucus' and all within one week after 6 months only of all the hype.
ALL POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE EITHER SENT INTO PURGOTORY "YOUR COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATOR" AND THEN ARE DELETED BECAUSE OF PRO-CLINTON
AND THAT MAKES US WORK EVEN HARDER OUTSIDE THE REALM TO GET CLINTON ELECTED....
THAT WILL NOT STOP HILLARY R. CLINTON FROM BEING THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF AMERICA.
ALL BABY BOOMERS IN INDIANA COME OUT AND SUPPORT HILLARY R. CLINTON, THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO DELIVER!
Hopefully, Obama struts his stuff on the court, instead of the bowling alley this time around. If I know Carolina and the Hoosier State, they will eat it up.
If there is one thing Indianans (?) love more than basketball, it's John Cougar Mellencamp!
look at the maths indi and nc,a liar and sniper fire shall not enter the kingdom,the maths is that the other candi just cannot win even if one adds up flo and mich,at the end and add the caucauses BARACK is still a winner,lets get it stright and make that vote we are castin count knowin that is goes to a winner andhave our party move forward havin ppl tryin to be there for personal greed,NO EMPIRE SHALL STAND.love u all demo...peace.