(CNN) - Hillary Clinton's big win in Pennsylvania on Tuesday kept the New York senator's hopes alive as she and fellow candidate Sen. Barack Obama continue to campaign for the next two upcoming primaries in Indiana and North Carolina. With both campaigns still in full swing and no immediate end in sight, the Sunday morning talk shows hashed out the current stats with strategists, surrogates, party leaders, and even one of the candidates, in an effort to answer the question: Who's leading the race for the Democratic nomination?
Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, a backer of Sen. Hillary Clinton, and former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama, stopped by ABC's "This Week" to talk campaign politics. Sen. Bayh made the case for looking at the popular vote instead of the delegate count to determine a frontrunner. "The most important thing to look at is the aggregate popular vote. The pledged delegates are important, but they are just intermediaries representing the people themselves," he said. But Daschle argued that examining only the popular vote leaves out a large segment of the Democratic voting population, the caucuses. "That basically says to all caucus states who don't keep track of the popular vote per se that you don't count," Daschle said.
It was a Senator showdown on CNN's "Late Edition" this week between Clinton supporter Sen. Charles Schumer (D-New York) and Obama backer Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Missouri). Sen. Schumer interpreted Clinton's Pennsylvania win as a change in the tide. "Hillary Clinton now has the momentum," he said to CNN's Wolf Blitzer. But Sen. McCaskill disputed Schumer's assertions. "If you drill down and look at the superdelegate race, right now, you see where the momentum is," referring to Obama's surge in superdelegates in the past week despite his loss in Pennsylvania.
CBS' "Face the Nation" featured a surprisingly subdued conversation between Obama strategist David Axelrod and Clinton advisor Howard Wolfson. While Wolfson asserted that Obama's failure to capture the blue-collar vote is a detriment to his general election prospects, Axelrod reminded viewers of Sen. Clinton's status as the inevitable nominee just a few months ago. "We won two-thirds of the primaries and caucuses that have taken place.How do you go from inevitable nominee to not winning two-thirds of the primary?" he asked moderator Bob Schieffer.
On NBC's "Meet the Press," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean dismissed an argument made by Clinton supporter Gov. Ed Rendell that the popular vote is a better indication of the lead than pledged delegates because they are "elected in a very undemocratic way" as the Pennsylvania governor put it. "I don't agree with it," Dean responded to host Tim Russert. He later continued that the rules "have been in place for the last 25 years. That's what we've got to go by, whether you like the rules or you don't like the rules."
The final word went to Sen. Barack Obama, who appeared on "Fox News Sunday" with host Chris Wallace. The senator from Illinois put his Pennsylvania loss in perspective. "It's not like I've been winning in states that only have either black voters or Chablis-drinking, you know, limousine liberals," he told Wallace. "There's a reason why we won twice as many states and won more delegates and won a larger popular vote."
Hillary's surrogates will do anything to spin, twist and manipulate the perception that she is ahead. Interestingly, though, their contention that she is ahead in the popular vote includes the rogue primaries held in Florida and Michigan - races in which not all candidates names were on the ballots, and were recognized by all candidates at the onset, not to count.
You can't have it both ways Hillary.
So stop your lies and false spin. The American people are smarter than you think.
This conduct, however, is telling of the conduct of the Hillary camp throughout the race – lies, manipulation and distortions for power at any cost...
Drop out now Hillary. For the unity of the Democratic party.
Get ready for the "American blackout 2008" in November!
It doesn't matter if Hillary wins the Democratic election she will not win the presidential election. Millions of African-American votes will "magical " disappear.
slow day eh
IF OBama is so great – and going to change our country – WHY can't he clean up the crime and killings in Chicago – his own home town?
He needs to go back home and clean up his town/state before he even thinks he can "fix" America!
GO HILLARY -YES YOU WILL!
Obma is all Talk No Action.
No need. None of my comments ever get posted.
I can't wait until Hillary is gone...
hillary is losing, obama is winning.
lets fouse on the G.Bush The Third,
MCCASKILLE'S MINISCULE EVALUATION OF MISSOURI VOTE FOR OBAMA IS NOT GOING TO STAND UP IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
THAT WIN WAS BEFORE OBAMA'S PASTOR PROBLEMS
Just remember senators is either Ms Clinton or Mr Mccain
It's time for the Clintons to stop trying to jam the "I" in team; please, please be good losers.
Hillary has spent the last two months saying "count all the votes". Now, she's saying "Don't count the votes in Iowa, Maine, Nevada or Washington". Also, only count MY votes in Michigan. Don't count Obama's votes at all.
What a hypocrite.
I don't want someone who is Mr. Congeniality dealing with the likes of the Bin Laden's around the world. We finally are able to see the beginning of the end of the Bush years, Bush who everyone wanted to have beer with. Sorry, I've had enough of Mr. Nice Guys.
We are going to have to check with hillary on that one... It's her race.... ask her bet she says she is.... LOL.... ;)
The popular vote argument is weak.
1. Clinton is using numbers from MI and FL, both states don't count.
2. The Democrtic nominee needs 2025 delegates to win, not a specified or higher number of individual votes.
That being said perhaps the rules are flawed, but change them before the next time,...not in the middle of the contest.
It seemed like Wallace was really trying to help out Obama with some of his answers about how to appeal to "blue collar voters". Overall, a pretty tame interview.
she's not leading in the popular vote ,anyway.she cannot rightfully win this nomination,but is willing to put her own party at risk,to fullfill her own greed for power.i'm glad i remained independent.obama '08
We know who's leading, CNN,
despite your relentless attempt to misinform and mislead us.
Poor former Sen. Daschle–he is so shaken by his lose of his Sen. spot that is does not think clearly–or maybe he lost his Sen race BECAUSE he does not think clearly –Anyway,if that communicator is the best Obama can do, it is not right for our country and its future