April 28, 2008
Posted: 01:15 PM ET

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Dean suggested Monday either Clinton or Obama should drop out shortly after the last primary.
Dean suggested Monday either Clinton or Obama should drop out shortly after the last primary.

GRAHAM, North Carolina (CNN) – Hillary Clinton wouldn’t say Monday whether she agrees with Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean's latest comments that either she or Barack Obama should drop out of the race following the last Democratic primary on June 3.

“We’re going to go through these next contests, we’re going to see where we end up and we’ll take stock of where we are after they finish,” Clinton told reporters on the trail in North Carolina, adding that she feels the prolonged race has been good for both the party and voters.

Clinton said again that Michigan and Florida’s votes should be counted.

“We have to decide, do we wish to punish Michigan and Florida, two states that we have to win in the fall in order to win back the White House? When there are perfectly acceptable ways of resolving this?” Clinton asked. “So we’ve got to resolve Michigan and Florida and we’ll see how the process plays out.”


Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Howard Dean


Concerned Democrat   April 28th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

I don't understand why Hillary supporters want to steal an election from the obvious winner?

We know what happened the last time an election was stolen!!!

It's no way she will be ahead in popular vote or delagates come June.

Numbers don't lie but desperate politicians do!!!

Democrat's 08

Silly Hillbilly   April 28th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

She hasn't responded to Dean before. In fact they've been walking all over Dean and the DNC.

Hillary is running for 2012 and Dean can take a hike because his leadership has been zero.

I won't vote for Hillary in 2008 and I definitely won't vote for her in 2012, esepecially since Barack will be our president and will run again.

Obama 08

Mary   April 28th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

She makes me sick! She will stick it out even if it means tearing the Democrat party apart. It's all about ME!

The Dude   April 28th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

In other words "I agree with you if, at the end of this, Obama should drop out… Otherwise I'm going to take this to the convention and completely destroy the party."

Common Sense '08!

John in PA   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Howard Dean you want no part of Hillary, you aren't man enough. You are the one that should quit.

Comment is Awaiting Moderation   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S PLATFORM WHERE DEAN LOVES TO SHOUT "RULES ARE RULES" DOES THAT NOT INCLUDE THE OPTION OF THE CANDIDATE TO BRING THE FINAL DECISION TO THE VOTE OF THE DELEGATES AND SUPERDELEGATES?

IF SO, WHY DOES HE NOT WANT TO HAVE THESE RULES APPLIED WHERE DEAN WAS SO ADAMANT IN DISENFRANCHISING FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN BECAUSE THEY BROKE A RULE BY VOTING EARLIER THAN THEY WERE PERMITTED TO DO…

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, SENATOR CLINTON, EITHER IT IS THE SUPERDELEGATES OR FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN AND IF STILL A DEAD HEAT, THEN BACK TO THE CONVENTION!!!!!!!

Chipster   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Florida and Michigan voters should not be penalized just because a bunch of Republican legislators and Democratic party wonks couldn't get their act together. The voters went to vote when they were asked to do so and their votes should be counted.

Splitting the votes 50/50 is exactly the same as not counting them so what's the point in that?

As for Obama's name not being on the ballot in Michigan - that was his poor judgment. It was NOT part of the agreement and he was not required to do it. He simply made a bad choice. Again, not the voters' fault or Clinton's.

Count the votes!

Olivia   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

No one is going to drop out, Dean. Go take a seat and enjoy this very entertaining race that is energizing the democratic party. How often do you have to be told that?

mama4obama   April 28th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Michigan and Florida are a non-issue Hillary….plain and simple. You agreed and so did everyone else.

The people of Florida and Michigan should be angry with those responsible within your state that chose to break the rules.

Im so sick of her….she is a bug that needs to be squashed.

Obama…I really hate to say this because I have nothing but respect for you…but you are going to have to press the heel of your shoe down on this creepy-crawly and twist.

OBAMA 08

Donna   April 28th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

IF YOU SLAP MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA IN THE FACE DON'T EXPECT TO GET THEIR VOTE IN THE FALL!!

WHEN YOU POLL DEMS IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN THEY GO FOR HILLARY AND DON'T LIKE OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS WILLING TO COUNT THEM OUT.

IF OBAMA TAKES THE NOMINATION DON'T EXPECT TO WIN FLORIDA OR MICHIGAN THEY WILL VOTE FOR MC CAIN.

THE WRITINGS ON THE WALL WITH THIS ONE!!!

Silly Hillbilly   April 28th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

America will never accept this woman. She is too divisive and too emotional. She has been the biggest clown in this election and for what, because the American people neither like or want her as our leader.

Go home Hillary, wherever that home is…Illinois, Arkansas, New York, Pennsylvainia. I'm not sure because you lie so much.

Obama 08

frank   April 28th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

The votes in Michigan and Florida should be seated, or a reelection should be held before the nomination. Otherwise, it will not be fair to Hillary and also the voters in the two states. Based on current situation with Obama's blunders, including Rev. Wright, bittergate…, Obama can't win the two states.

Grif   April 28th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

If you don't get the Nominee Hillary! I woulden't stay as a Lap Dog for Obama.. Go Independent, or Join John McCain. You'll get a great deal more respect…

Diane   April 28th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

She's sailing on the Titantic anyway, so who cares?

Obama 08

John Smith   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

I just cannot believe how the Republicans are gradually winning this election, thanks to some "bird-brain" democrats. The Republicans consistenly outfox the dems.

1. How can an "impeached family" be given this nation again (I mean somone who lied to this nation about sex, sex, and sex!)

2. How can anyone even think that an individual with such high negatives can ever bring together other people to implement solutions in Washington?

3. How can anyone put "wealth" over morality, integrity, and honesty?

I weep for the Dems!

Marek Balsam   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Hillary should admit that her team's leaders had long favored punishing those who voted out of line. It was her group that disallowed the Michigan and Florida votes. The process was decided several years ago.

Mish   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Whoever at the end of these primaries is leading in votes and delegates should be the nominee
Floridas Gov offiicials BROKE the rules in michigan and Florida
If you want to blame someone , blame them!!
it would be most unfair to those who did not campaign in those two states !.If they want them counted then split them evenly
Quite handy for Clinton to now want them counted but if the tables were reversed she would raise pure hell and America knows that!
Wake up America and get rid of these dynasties of Clinton and Bushes!! Clinton will NEVER win against MCain why do you think the repubs want her as the nominee
She has too many negatives to ever have a chance
Vote for Obama and what *his views and issues are*
you just might start the change of the same old washington!!
Those who vote for Hillary are suckers for punishment
if she gets the nomination you DESERVE what you get

Mathew, AL   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

I think she should go ALL the way to the convention and destroy the DNC. I'm loving this.

McCain 08

Adam in INdy   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Howard Dean should DROP OUT!!!!

Make FLORIDA & MICHIGAN Count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mary grube   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Rules are rules Hillary.You agreed with them before you fell behind.
Would be unfair to change them now.

28 year old White MAN in FLORIDA   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

she is a coward

Jesse   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

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If you check the record, it was the Clintons who signed off on the rules and agreed that both Michigan and Florida should NOT count if they didn't follow the rules.

Now the Clintons want to change the rules of the game to get ahead…

Bottom line Clinton can't win and is only hurting herself and the party

Gene   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

OBAMA WILL NEVER, EVER BE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY!!! THERE'S ENOUGH VOTERS WITH 'COMMON SENSE', YET, WHO WILL SEE TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MCCAIN '08

Chris   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Hillary Clinton, you are invited to support Barack Obama for President. Drop out and help heal the party you've helped to divide. Yes WE can, Hillary. Yes WE can.

Tanya, GA   April 28th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

Why wasn't Hillary interested in "resolving Michigan & Florida" before she became the "underdog"? Only now that she needs those votes to count is she saying that we need these votes to win the general. Barack shouls debate her with no moderator and present the DNC paperwork she signed agreeing that since FLA and MI broke the DNC rules, their votes would not count, NOR would their delegates be seated.

She screams of desperation in claiming a hollow victory where her opponents weren't even on the ballot.

marcia   April 28th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

CLINTON IS CHANGING THE RULES OF THE GAME AND CLAIMS VICTORY IN A ONE PERSON RACE THAT SHE HAD SAID WOULD NOT COUNT. THIS IS WHY SO MANY AMERICANS DO NOT TRUST HER AND WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HER.

Dale Wise   April 28th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

Sort of? That wasn't a response at all. It was merely another opportunity for her to express her hypocritical propaganda and soundbites.

I can't believe the crap the media let's this broad get away with. It's as though Clinton's lying and flip-flopping are so expected that they don't even think that it is worth reporting. Either that, or they want her to win.

Jenna, NY   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Too late Howy… You act as if you are the decider…Relax

We are enjoying the horror movie. Hope you are too.

Clinton for Godzilla!

AZM   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

The latest polls show Hillary can beat McCain but Obama can't.
If you count Florida and Mich she has more popular vote.
Obama won't debate because unscripted he's terrible (McCain will eat his lunch.

Obama is destroying the democrat party… he needs to do the right thing and walk away with the little respect he has left… just make sure you give all that money back please!

ak   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Hill is 100% correct, we can not and should not alienate MI and FL

Pam   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Hillary, do you honestly think that disinfranchising Michigans Obama supporters is fair??

If we are to count the popular votes, we, from Iowa and many other states think you had better start counting the caucus voters also.

You seem to disinfranchise ANYTHING that does not make you APPEAR to have a fat chance.

Aces full of Kings   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

First of all, we may as well concede Michigan and Florida to the Republicans after we botched up that mess. But we do not need these two states to win, so let McCain have them. Secondly, Dean needs to make Hillary drop out now. There is no way she can win the nominee, unless Obama suddenly was abducted by aliens. She is only making the party more divisive at a time when it needs to pull itself together. What are the super Ds waiting for? Act now! Back Barack!

Ben, OK   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

With the Clintons involved, the DNC is going down, down, down.

How stupid can Dems be to let the Clintons strangle their own rules around their necks. No matter, McCain is going to win anyway.

I love that Florida/Michigan argument, just keep fighting Dems, we'll see you in November.

shawna   April 28th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

It amazes me how these polls are announced each week to try to sway public opinion. This poll must have been influenced by the Clinton campaign to try to influence voters on Tuesday that she is electable. Are the people of America so confused that from day to day polls have such sharp diferences in results? I believe these polls are being influenced just like everything else in politics. The world now knows just like after hurricane Katrina when they saw such helplessness in the land of plenty what our so called "democractic" process really involves. People, please vote for who you like, Hillary or Obama. on Tuesday.Don't let the media influence you anymore. Enough is enough The public is not stupid!!!

Tobias   April 28th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Obama should drop out. He has absolutely no chance of winning in November. He is hurting the party and on top of that he isn't even qualified to be president. If the press had been doing their job and treating each candidate fairly instead of attacking Senator Clinton we wouldn't be in this mess. If all the people who already voted could have a do over you better believe that Clinton would have the nomination secured right now. It is time to vote smart and vote Clinton.

Gene   April 28th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

AND CLINTON WILL NEVER, EVER BE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY!!!! THERE'S ENOUGH VOTERS WITH 'COMMON SENSE', WHO WILL SEE TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MCCAIN '08

Bob, WA   April 28th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

Yeah Hillary,

Hang in there, fight to the bitter end, all the way to your convention.

Ditto heads are lovin' it.

McCain 08

AZM   April 28th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

The latest polls show Hillary can beat McCain but Obama can't.
If you count Florida and Mich she has more popular vote.
Obama won't debate because unscripted he's terrible (McCain will eat his lunch.

Obama is destroying the democrat party… he needs to do the right thing and walk away with the little respect he has left… just make sure you give all that money back please!

Matt, CA   April 28th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

What people don't understand is that, in functional terms, FL and MI didn't have their primaries. They had an event in which people knew they wouldn't count, people didn't vote as they might have otherwise, people may not have voted because they know it wouldn't count, people couldn't vote for Obama (in MI) so they voted for Hillary instead since they thought "well I guess she's running unopposed".

The results of the 'primaries' are completely useless because they don't reflect the results of what would have happened had people knew it would have counted.

Damen, CA   April 28th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Well what a surprise, the Clintons are divisive, controvercial and proven liars. I'm shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in the house.

Clinton = Drama

Jan   April 28th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Hillary's popular vote is suspect. My brother in Indiana, a Republican, said he was voting for Hillary in Indiana in order TO DESTROY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I was appalled.

I used to at least respect Hillary. I would have voted for her if the nominee, but no more. If Obama isn't the nominee I will vote for neither, and mourn this nation.

tomdavie   April 28th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

I love Obama supporters who are now backed into this stupid argument.

clinton is going to STEAL the nomination from Obama.

Obama has a LEAD in delegates. Thats it.

He cant get 2024 delegates. Its simple.

You cant STEAL something from someone when they didnt WIN it in the first place.

If this is the only argument the Obama fans have, he wont be the nominee.

Marc   April 28th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Why did Obama leave his name on Florida's ballot and not Michigan's? Does anybody know? Does he even know?

That was stupid. He surely cost himself those two states in the GE by blocking the vote (ala George Bush, Supreme Court, etc.) If he's so confident he's the right person for the job, every vote should count! What's wrong with you people?!! Too young to remember 2000?

mary grube   April 28th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Rules are rules Hillary. She agreed with the rules initially, but when you are losing, you decide they aren't fair. Play by the rules!

marylee wagerman atlanta,ga   April 28th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

POLLS , SHMOLLS

SHE WOULD HAVE NO CHANCE AGAINST MCCAIN.

LOOK AT HER NEGATIVES PEOPLE !!!

Tricia Smith   April 28th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

I think counting votes (either delegates or popular vote) in either Michigan or Florida would be completely disingenuous on the part of the Clinton campaign or the democratic party. That's now how the original rules were established and since Obama's name did not even appear on the Michigan ballot nor did he campaign in Florida a decision to count those votes would be totally unfair. I personally am angered as to how the Clinton campaign has been conducting business. Hillary appears to be a candidate who is only interested in saying or lying or doing whatever it takes to get the nomination. If she does get the nomination you can count on me not voting.!!! Oh - by the way, I am a 67 yr educated white woman voter who has voted all of my adult life for the democratic party.

Dal   April 28th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Hillary will say the same as long as she wants the presidency. She will also quote that Bill won the nomination at the final count. He went on to become the President. She does not realize that at that time none of the states voted out of line. This time MI and Fl are taken out lets make it fair and give both of you 50%. easy and that way it is a fair division.
One thing for sure is that the fight will go on even if the final nomination goes to OBAMA. Yes Sour grapes will be had at that point as well.
Party will be divided and for sure McCain will become the next President.

Voter   April 28th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Hillary agreed to NOT COUNT MI OR FL! If she didnt then they would of counted.

Hillary NEEDS to WIN EVERY STATE by 66%, Does anyone really think that will happon???

marylee wagerman atlanta,ga   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

HILLARY DID YOUR MOM NOT TEACH YOU HOW TO FOLLOW THE RULES WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE GIRL IN PENNSYLVANIA SHOOTING DUCKS ?????????????????????????

John AZ   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Hillary is not only hurting the democratic party she is doing more damge to our nation than anyone right now! If the democratic leaders think that this is all going to just blow over and everyone is going to live happily ever after they're vision impaired.

we have an opprtunity for the first time in almost a half century to stand as americans and work together for a common good and heal our nation.

this can not and will not happen with hillary - the republicans will tear her apart and attack her every day in the campaign and if she miraculously won, they would attack her everyday she is in office - and the Worst thing is She would attack them back with rage and hatred.

We will take ourselves down and our enemy has to do nothing but watch and laugh as america self destructs!!!

Farrell, Houston, Tx   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Here we go again, Hillary is saying either you do it my way or the highway. She can't win, she won't win but she will continue to destroy the democrat party. I've had enough of this woman and her tactics that can't be forgiven.

Jacob, OR   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

That sound you hear is Dean trying to grow a spine. A little too late, I'd say. The Clintons are eating him for lunch.

I'm so glad Barack is staying away from the fray.

Obama 08

Tell The Truth   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Why is she allowed to destroy the democratic party? FL and MI voters - HEAR ME- she did not care about your votes when she was winning, she agreed to not count your votes. Now she is losing and she is playing this game. I have lost all respect for her. If they steal this nomination from Senator Obama I will not vote for McCain, but I will surely stay home. Gosh!!! we are tired of the Clinton/Bush reigns. HIllary stop it!!!!!

Gino   April 28th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

well,we as a party ,condened the florida situation back in 2000,now we are refusing to count Florida,hey guys we will lose again, count the votes

Eman   April 28th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

Thank god she continues to run. She's not running for herself, but for people like me, and millions of others, who do not think Obama is ready for President and would love another, better alternative. I like a Presidential candidate who won't give up on a good fight.

Mike - WA   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

I think that they should both drop out and the Democrats should give us anothter option.

Carl Sloan   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

This whole "we have to decide what to do with Michigan and Florida" argument is absurd. We did decide what to do with them — 8 months ago. Remember, Hillary? You yourself agreed to it and said it wouldn't count.

Politics of convenience at its finest.

m,aca   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Go HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama please go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary/08   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Obama-bots I feel your pain. I would not want them to count Florida or Michigan at all, if it meant my candidate could lose the nomination. If they are not factored in, some way, to the satisfaction of all parties, we will lose in November. That is a fact…Rev. Wright has really messed up Obamas chances in November. The few votes Nader will pull will cause us to lose in November if Obama is the nominee….

Phyllis, KS   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

How does Hillary heels feel on your back Dean? Get used to it, she doesn't take no too kindly. I think if she can't get the nomination, she'll be camping out on the White House lawn. She's got to get back in that house, so she can steal some more china.

Obama 08

Praetorian, Fort Myers   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

What a hoot. Regardless of who gets elected (Hillary, Barack, John) they've still got to deal with the dysfunctional likes of Reid and Pelosi. I say don't worry so much about the President–instead focus on giving our hallowed halls of congress an enema.

Key West Sun   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

This story is not about Hillary getting out in June; this is about Hillary telling Dean what he needs to do, she is showing true leadership. How hard is it for Dean to understand that we have got to settle Florida and Michigan now. Listen up Dean this woman is telling you the truth; she knows what the party needs to do to win in the fall. That is one of Obama's greatest failings, he has run a great campaign to get the nomination, better than Hillary, but they have not run one that will carryover to the fall.

Burt   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Dean you made the rules now live with them. 2025 dels is needed to close the nomantion if no one has it you fight it out at the convention. Its a little late now to change you mind on how you set it up.

jr   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

This whole democratic nominating process went to hell in a hand basket when they decided to appoint Howard Dean as the head of the DNC. Democrats thought they could make him go away by appointing him to that position after his failed run for the presidency but he's come back to haunt them.

If the Democratic party expects to remain viable into the future they first need to completely overhaul their nominating process. And secondly get rid of Howard Dean. Those two steps will go a long way towards making the party look less like a third rate three ring circus, and more like a party serious about winning the presidency.

Sam- Chicago   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

she is right. She is not insisting on anything. My question right now is?

Which if these two candidates can "beat" McCain?. Its more so who can beat McCain, rather than who will win. Either will do well, but only one I think, can actually beat McCain. So let the voters make that choice.

Tim in Canada   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

The fat lady has started singing up here, just waiting for the northwind.

John W., Milwaukee, WI   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

In other words: "GIVE me MINE!"

Yes, Hillary did win both MI & FL; Obama's lawyers did kill any chance of a revote in both states… GIVE Hillary HERS!

In the FINAL ANALYSIS: Superdelegates will obviously pick a winner!
And, the only issue that they really need to address is: WHO IS THE MOST ELECTABLE!

They do NOT have to weigh the POPULAR vote, the current DELEGATE vote or even how other Superdelegates voted up to that point; they all can CHANGE THEIR MIND at ANYTIME!

I would remember that when you folks read about it being MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, etc., as the only issue that the Superdelegates need really deal with is, again, WHO IS THE MOST ELECTABLE!

That is what they are tasked to do!

I'm afraid most of you "educated" Obama supporters are in for a rude reality check in August…

P, KS   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

How does Hillary's heels feel on your back Dean? Get used to it, she doesn't take no too kindly. I think if she can't get the nomination, she'll be camping out on the White House lawn. She's got to get back in that house, so she can steal some more china.

Obama 08

pat   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

you people are stupid if you think obama can beat mccain in the general, hillary leads mccain 50 to 41 points in the polls obama 45 to 45. he can,t carry the big states mccain polls better in them, an all the red states he won in the primerys he will lose to mccain, so if you want the dem. to win you better, get on the hillary bandwagon, or you,ll be crying in nov. an ill say i told you so lol.

Pat   April 28th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

I hope by the 4th of July we have a candidate. That would be nice, Dems.

We'll see.

Len in Washington   April 28th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

to: "Chipster"
How many voters in Michigan and Florida stayed home and did not vote because they knew the votes wouldn't be counted. There have been hundreds of comments from these people in these blogs for months to that very point.
I've also heard people talk about how "this is a Democracy-our votes should be counted." Neither the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party Primaries are "Democratic." They are votes for a private organization position. We shouldn't confuse them with public votes about public offices.

Perhaps it goes to the phrase "educated voters." Or in this case it might be the "un"-educated voters who are howling at the moon.

I think we'll see decisions made after next Tuesday. Lets all just wait.

Jen   April 28th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

LMAO @ the Obama idiot who said polls don't matter… of course they do, they're the most reliable predictor of who can win against McCain (and that's Hillary Clinton :D). Your personal opinions of the candidates is nothing.

Hillary Clinton '08

A Gulf War Veteran   April 28th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Hillary, how do you spell relief? O P P O R T U N I S T

Ken   April 28th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

I can't stand Hillary Clinton and really want to see Obama win but I would rather have a democrat in the white house and will vote accordingly in November. Everyone needs to be smart and once this primary is over get behind whichever Democrat has the nomination.

Venus   April 28th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

This race has been over for some time and Dean is sick of the Clintons.

If Hillary was so great - why is she behind a rookie like Obama?

How can Hillary beat Mc Cain if she can't beat Obama?

Dean is the one that cancelled the NC-debate by the way!

We are not going to the convention this year and that's all there is to it!

They see what Hillary is doing by changing the rules and games every day! I bet if Obama was behind she wouldn't be worried about FL and MI votes nor about wanting another debate!

I will be glad when she leaves! I am looking forward to seeing how she re-acts to getting off the stage!

Robert in Toronto,ON   April 28th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

This is ridiculous. SHE DIDN'T WANT THE FLORIDAN OR MICHIGAN VOTES TO COUNT WHEN SHE DIDN"T THINK SHE'D NEED THEM.

And I don't understand why or how anybody in Michigan OR Florida can fall for her redderick! This woman would stomp on your head if she thought it would help her reach the Presidential platform.

She cares NOTHING about the voters there. NOTHING. Or anywhere across America! And the fact that her and her supporters think different boggles the mind. Hillary Clinton is what's WRONG with America - not what's right.

When we look across the pond and we see what has gotten you guys into so much trouble - it's your elected officials that you put there who care more about playing the political games for their own personal or party gains. How is anything going to change if you keep playing games? Your world reputation is at stake…your son's and daughters lives are in peril!

Do you really believe…for one second….that Hillary Clinton will lead you in a different direction? She's not gonna steer America the same direction as George Bush, but it won't be much better I can promise you that!

Kansas Veteran   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

The Democratic rules require the DNC to aceppt the deligates from states that hold their elections to early, what the rules do however is cut the number of delegates in half.

So if you are going to play by the rules, the elections count as ran and the number of delegates awarded to the canidates stand, itsa only that half the delegates are counted.

Valeria   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

This is America, you have to count each and every vote. Florida votes should count as is and we should re-vote in Mich. There were people willing to pay for the re-vote it wasn't going to cost the states any extra funds.

How can either canidate declare victory win you leave out two large States? You can not correctly state who had the most votes. There is no way Obama will be able to beat McCain. We don't trust him and we don't know enought about him. The more we hear more we fear!

Hillary will fight for us and knows how to make CHANGE happen, not just preach about it. If you want CHANGE from BUSH you have to vote for Hillary.

Valeria from Kentucky

Barack/08   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Dear Hillary/0-Never,

We Obama supporters care about fairness and the rules. I would love for Florida and Michigan to vote, had the voting been fair. Since it was NOT, they have to take it up with their elected officials. You forget your candidate can not win without Barack's supporters, so dream on.

Pamela, Sacramento   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

This is a bunch of crapola. HRC is not electable. By the time the republicans get done with her, everyone will truly see her for what she is. PLEASEEEEEEEE! The republicans will roundup all the closed door dirt, which includes her hidden lobbyists deals and they will be merciless with their attack ads. Then all of you naive HRC supporters will be having side bars saying, "We didn't know!"

OBAMA 08!!

al in memphis   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

The argument for FLA and MICH would have had more credibility with me if it was done at the time these states were making the decision to move the date. Why did we not here this out cry from the media and voters in FLA and MICH when it was being considered.

Here's a new reality show — Adult voters try to explain to 5-year old why they support their canidate.. Mommy, mommy this canidate will not tell us the truth or 100 negative things to say to become president.

Independent   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Worst/best picture of Howard Dean EVER! He looks like a bobblehead that got stuck or something.

Donna   April 28th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Hillary is not the best candidate. She lies and is very dishonest. Her smile along is an indicator that something sneaky is waiting to happen. When she's in the white house busy trying to do her job, Bill will be busy doing his job again with another intern. She will in turn go on a rampage and mess up the entire country.

Vote OBAMA 08

Maxine   April 28th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Hillary Clinton, by rook or crook she will be the nomination….she already has her lawyers figuring out how to over rule certain things like MI/FL……yeah that's what I want a liar, cheater, conartist in office, go GW whoops I mean HC.

Greg   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Hillary, in effect said "yes someone should drop out as long as it is not me." and yes Hillary, we must punish Michigan and Florida. That happens in the real world. If you do not play by the rules then you get punished. Otherwise why have rules. Can you imagine, a country who's laws are "Do what ever you want, there are no consequences for your actions".

Cindy Ryan   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

I am a republican who is planning to vote for Obama. If Hillary wins (or steals) the nomination, no doubt about it, I'm voting for McCain. If Hillary's the vp, I'm voting for McCain. That woman believes she owns the presidency and is pissed that Obama dared to aspire to it. She is evil and so is Bill. Obama, start fighting back on her terms, if she can't stand up to you, how can she stand up to all the other male country leaders???Like she said, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! Don't let her make you look like a wuss. She's got so much history that the public is not hearing about, but she's making sure they're hearing about yours. People wake up…you don't want BILLARY for president!!!

Yes We Can   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Hillary made a decision about Florida and Michigan when she signed the agreement. But just like anything else with Hillary, the signature wasn't worth the paper it was written on. Her marriage is a lie, and so is her candidacy.

Barack 08

Peter in Canada   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

What a piece of work Hillary is! She is absolutely the most manipulative and disengenuous person I have seen in a long long time.
1. The DNC did decide to punish Michigan and Florida and YOU AGREED! That happened before the primaries!
2. There are NO ACCEPTABLE ways to resolve the problem. You have absolutely ensured that through your actions. The only acceptable resolution will still involve Obama having to be injured by your actions and having a strong enough lead in pledged delegates to basically GIVE YOU Michigan and Florida and still be ahead.

I don't know the full legal recourse that the Obama campaign and his supporters and he himself have if this lunacy of MI and FL continues but I am sure there must be one! His supporters have dumped $200 million into a process that would have to be changed after the fact! This is FRAUD in my country!

Anna G.   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Los Angeles, CA.

Hillary is the best candiate. She will win in November .

Hillary, 2008!

crispulo   April 28th, 2008 2:58 pm ET

There is no way that Hillary can overcome Obama in either popular nor delegate votes. She should just get out of the race before it is too late.
Hillary's goal is just her ego, not the ideals to unite the country nor to make the radical changes that our country need urgently. Obama has a more honest and sincere focus of politics.
Additionally, he has a cross cultural heritage that can be very fruitful to heal the negative impact that Bush has left around the world. He will have the ability to create dialogue with those nations that hate us so deeply ,particularly in the Middle East ,and find the common ground to search for understanding and world peace. Long live OBAMA…!

Mary   April 28th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Hillary needs to Drop out NOW !!

Less experience than Obama, that's been proven !

More lies than anyone, that's been proven !

Ran her campaign into the red, that's been proven !

Has divided the party, that's been proven !

Will distroy this country!

Whatever   April 28th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Thing I wanto to know is who the heck came up with these rules, the same folks who came up with those hairbrained caucuses? Talk about a none procedure. They're more like a squaredance than an election. And don't forget John Dean and his famous hog hollar sound bite! He had the nomination practically in the bag and lost it in the time it takes to say "Hee-Haw!"

Cindy   April 28th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Obama, if you become the nominee and "they" make you pick Billary as a vp…get a food taster!!

Hillary   April 28th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Check pollster dot com
Obama is a much better candidate against McCain….

Sam in VA   April 28th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

The race isn't over til it's over. At this point it's too close to call. The Dems need to change their primary rules. It's up to the super deligates now. Obama loses ground daily as people across this country get to know him. The more I listen to him studder and stammer I realize just green he is behind the ears. He needs more experience. By 2016 he will have it! May the best woman win.

Jesse   April 28th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

How about a joint Ticket with whoever has more delegates and popular votes stays on top?

Concerned Democrat   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

I don't understand why Hillary supporters want to steal an election from the obvious winner?

We know what happened the last time an election was stolen!!!

It's no way she will be ahead in popular vote or delagates come June.

Numbers don't lie but desperate politicians do!!

Obama 08

Tom C   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

Do you think if the shoe was on the other foot and Hillary was leading that she would have the same opinion about Florida and Michigan? The answer is absolutly not. Many voters did not vote in those states because they knew the votes would not count.

Obama does not need the 22nd debate, HIllary does. Why debate with a mudslinging, distort the facts, kitchen sink throwing, let's nuke em, I will do anything to win, Hillary.

The only reason she is in the race is because of Limbaugh and others urging their republican friends to switch parties and vote for Hillary to drag the race out and they know Hillary is easier to beat. Many of these votes she is attaining will be gone in the general election.

GoHillary   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

Come on BO - why are you so AFFRAID to debate Hillary. She's not a monster, I'm quite sure she won't eat you.

Maybe you could use some of your hard earned cash to buy the answers beforehand.

Texan   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

It's funny to hear Clinton say "Should we punish Michigan and Florida" when she was in agreement of punishing them for holding an early primary in the beginning. She only stands for what's good for her at the moment.

Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

Florida and Michigan,

If you are really looking for someone to take the fall for how your votes were mishandled, why don't you start looking at your governors and legislatures instead of Barack? By that same token, Hillary is not the people's champion that she makes herself out to be as she agreed to the same rules that Barack did. The only difference is that she has more experience with the politics behind all of this and left her name on the ballots while Barack was going by the spirit of the rules and not just the wording when he removed his name an did not campaign.

In the future, I agree that this should all be handled differently but it is what it is right now and we all have to deal with it.

stacy   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

I think she is absolutely correct in this, this is not Howard Dean's decision to make, let it go to the convention and see the will of the
people.

Lilly   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Hillary, your Bi-Polar is showing again !

Joojo   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

I just love HRC. This is a candidate worth supporting. Very strong and able to take punches. Just examine how the media has beaten her up. This is a true leader. And to Mary who posted earlier, too bad she makes you sick but she just wont go away!

Mike from Westchester   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Did not the DNC insiders, "rules and bylaws committee", exclude FL and MI. Who was tighter with and had more influence over the DNC insiders, Hillary or Barack?

Who said of Michigan, when she did not pull her name off the ballot that it did not matter that she left her name on (in violation of the agreement), because "everyone know this is not going to count for anything"?

Who is now screaming about disenfranchisement, when her end game is to disenfranchise the entire democratic electorate by stealing the nomination at the convention?

They can split all the FL and MI delegates evenly if they want then to participate. That way the states that were not going to be allowed to impact the result will not impact the result, but they can still be at the convention.

No more debates. No using tainted results from FL and MI. If you can win, then win, if you can't…..

dlr   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

She is so self absorbed and lies so much, how can we want her to be President of the United States.

Electing her, is like asking George Bush to stay on for a 3rd term.

HillarySkank on myspace   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Hillary has lost the primary. If the democratic party somehow allows her to steal the election I will no longer be a democrat and will vote anything but the democrat party for ALL elections for the rest of my life.
This is pure BS. She can't win fair and square so she chages the rules. I would vote Bush for a 3rd term before ever considering to vote for Hillary Rotten Clinton!

And if any Clinton supporters have a problem with that until you have served in the military as I have, I could care less what you have to say. If you HAVE served in the military, then I salute you but disagree with you.

OBAMA WON THE DEM NOMIATION   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

RACE IS TECHNICALLY OVER.

THE RULES ARE SPECIFIC. IT IS A DELEGATE RACE.

HILLARY CAN'T CACTH UP. IT IS OVER.

MSM STOP GIVING FALSE HOPES. IT 'LL MAKE IT HARDER FOR DEMS TO RECONCILE

OBAMA 08

ShannonL   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

They will have to count FLA and Mich in order to give Clinton the nomination. Wright won't shut up and he is dragging Obama down. New polls show Clinton ahead in Ind. Obama can't win core Dems.

Dean is a joke. Who put that moron in charge?

Marine   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Al this continued bickering. As Ralph Crandon used to say

"HOW SWEET IT IS"

John San Francisco   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

I was a big fan and support of Bill and Hillary. I have know begun a loathing for the Clinton's. They have validated all charges comming from the Republican Party. Hillary will never be President of the United States.

She can not and will not be supported by American's who know how the Clinton's have used lies and race, not the issues to win votes from White America. It was African American's who came to the defense of the Clinton's during some of thier roughes days in the White House.

Now that the Clinton's have been able to distract the good people of this country by playing to thier biasis and fears, they now start talking about the issues. Iwould have voted for Hillary if she had done this from the start and continued to do this through out the campayne. I causion the political pundits, African American politicians, media voices, and the African American community will not allow this irreshensable distortion of themselves or someone who represents the community. It is sad to see the level of denial of hite America. It is sad to see the level of denial from Black America. For the Bloggers, they truly see the world through thier own eyes and belifes. Hillary could have represented so much more, e=ven more than what Barak offered. Yes she has the experience, but what she has shown more than anything in this race, she has no integrity, nor does Bill. I wonder did we turn our heads to all the bad things Bill had done because we as a country was benifiting from his position as President. Yes we turnned our head, and now a 360 degree turn shows us that the Clintons are who they are. "Curupted by Power"

"Go Hillary 2008″ if you can win without the African American Vote

Niel, NY   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

What I do not understand is that why people are not seeing this:

HILLARY AGREED TO NOT TO INCLUDE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA WHEN PRIMARY STARTED.
She voted for War too.
Perhaps she forgets what she promises. Bill was right on. At this age, these things happen.

I used to be Hillary's support but now I will follow ABC (Anybody But Clintons) of politics.

ABC '08.

Rick from NJ   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Senator Clinton is the Best and Strongest Candidate to Win the Democratic Primary.
She is going to fight for Americans.
President Clinton is a bonus also.
He balanced our budget, kept us safe and America was loved throughout the world when he was in office.
He loves all Americans and was considered the "black president" because of his love for African Americans. His office could have been overlooking Central Park on 5th Avenue but instead, he decided to open his office in Harlem to bring abundance to the area.

Wake up Americans. Senator Clinton will win, stand up for her and President Clnton.

Dan in CO   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Resolving Michigan and Florida satisfactorily and resolving them to Hillary's satisfaction are two different things.

mitch from ark.   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

hillary's wrecking the democrats' chances ,in the fall,and blaming obama,for following the rules.how dumb.

Obama   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

Obama should drop - he does not stand a chance agains beating McCain in the general election. He will bring a loss to the democratic party.

George   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

Barack Obama WILL loose to John McCain, reason, two states, Michigan and Florida, and who knows, perhaps Ohio and Pennsylvania too.
Say what you will, but it has been Obama who has not accepted any solution, be it the current results, re-vote or anything.

Dave   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

The choices as I see them, in order of palatability and / or chance of getting elected:
1) Clinton
2) McCain
3) Gore
4) Edwards
5) Kucinich
…and so on
…and so on
…and so on
1000)Kermit the Frog
1001) Obama
At least "Barry's" in their somewhere, right? (Should his middle name be shortened to "Hussy"?)
More than enough said!!

Logical   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

Hillary CANNOT catch up. IT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

This is where respectable people such as Mit Romney and others drop out of the race for the good of the party…

Americans, remember when we couldn't even IMPEACH President Clinton out of the White House, even though he shamed our country world-wide?

Well, in case you Hillary supporters haven't noticed, this has never been about us, the people, this is about the Clinton's and their legacy in the history books.

GO OBAMA!

CNN PLEASE POST MY COMMENT!!!!!

hrp   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

I agree that the next few states should be played out. I don't agree that MI & FL should be part of the equation. Clinton should have stuck to the rules she agreed to.

Dan in CO   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

""Come on BO - why are you so AFFRAID to debate Hillary. She's not a monster, I'm quite sure she won't eat you.""

So why didn't she debate Jon Tasini in 2006?

iddrisu see   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Is about time you stop mentioning florida and michigan to be count loser,that is how losers do.I wonder if somebody either then you sign the agrement that this two state will not be seated.Loser stop trying to make this stupid arguement.

Jamal Kansas   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Cliton Dean has spoken Fl, Mich violated the DNC's rules that you agreed on that people in your campaign had there delagates stripped now that Barack is winning you want them to count. Hillary you are sad you are one of the worst women on this planet and you suppose to be the womens champion ha ha ha Hillary You are a Liar your time is up

Venus   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Great job Dean!

Good move! This gets Hillary busy and off the debate subject!

It was Howard Dean that cancelled the North Carolina debate and not Obama!

This is his way of throwing Hillary off track and help her negative-ratings go up!

This is also Dean's way of letting the Dem-Party see how and why our party don't want her back!

Go Obama!

Janel, St. Paul, MN   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

You've got to hand it to Hillary. She is one stubborn woman!

Frankly, should she somehow manipulate a win of the nomination, I don't know how she will be able to convince all the Obama supporters to respect, not mention to like, her after all the dirty attacks she and her husband have made on Obama.

But. . .I guess she simply feels she is entitled to be the next president because of her eight years in the White House. What a joke she is!

suzy   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

We've always had HOPE -
what we need is HELP!

HELP = HILLARY!!!!!!!

This race is not over yet….

To NOT count Florida and Michigan is only going to make LOTS of people angrier than they already are, which is a problem to the election in NOV, especially if the nominee is Obama. I don't care what happened or what was agreed upon over a year ago - things have changed quite a bit, and with this election so tight and critical, the ONLY solution is to count these two states after all other primaries are done, and then we will see who the winner is….
and if you think that Obama is NOT using this Fl/MI debacle to his advantage, then you are sadly mistaken. He is playing politics just like the "old politicians"…..
So, who is stealing from who???????

Rick from NJ   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Senator Clinton is the Best and Strongest Candidate to Win the Democratic Primary.
She is going to fight for Americans.
President Clinton is a bonus also.
He balanced our budget, kept us safe and America was loved throughout the world when he was in office.
He loves all Americans and was considered the "black president" because of his love for African Americans. His office could have been overlooking Central Park on 5th Avenue but instead, he decided to open his office in Harlem to bring abundance to the area.

Wake up Americans. Senator Clinton will win, stand up for her and President Clnton.

Gary in VA   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

I didn't know that retardation was a requirement of being a United States citizen. Rules are rules what happen to American law. If you agree to something why would you change the rules if your at a disadvantage. The Clintons are sickening me. I once like Bill Clinton now I think him and his wife are crazy.

Debra, MO   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

I hope all of you women supporters of Hillary teach your daughters how to lie, cheat and steal because you are just like her. You are a scary group of people that Obama does not need in November. I would never want my children anywhere near you or your families.

Lonnie H.   April 28th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

This is beyond funny because why does Hillary Clinton believe so strongly that she will even win Michigan or Florida? Florida I can see, but she was the only candidate with her name on the ballot in Michigan, and after all that has happened, why is she banking on those two states to push her over the top? It would

Dave   April 28th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Kermit - now that's a REAL green candidate!!!!

Niel, NY   April 28th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

One thing is for sure…..

Florida and Michigan will not go to Dems way this election.

Thanks to Dean for that.

Why don't Dean declare his super-delegate vote? If he is insisting other super-delegate frys to reveal it why does not he walk the talk?
O' Yeeeeahhh

trellskig   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Of course she will win every primary to come if she has all the (evil) republican switcers on her side.

SHAME ON YOU REPUBLICAN SWITCHERS SCREWING UP THE DEM. PARTY.

The sad thing is, Hillary is taking the bait…so sad!

Obama win '08   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Hillary wants Michigan and Florida, let her have them. Obviously math was not her strongest subject. The way I have calculated it, if Hillary gets 55% and Obama gets 45% of the delegates from both he will not need any more votes from superdelegates. Even with the 45% from FL and MI, once the nine remaining states are completed then Obama would end up with 2054 pledged and superdelegates.

As of today he has 1724 delegates.
He will receive at least the following:
1 - Guam
33 - Indiana (this is a split)
55 - North Carolina (b/c he is going to blow her out the water by 20%)
12 - West Virginia (gives her a 55-45 win)
21 - Kentucky(gives her a 55-45 win)
26 - Oregon (gives him a 55-45 win)
25 - Puerto Rico (gives her a 55-45 win)
8 - Montana (gives him a 55-45 win)
8 - South Dakota (gives him a 55-45 win)
Total of 1913 delegates

Even in you Add in (giving her 55% and him 45% for both:
83 - Florida
58 - Michigan

It then gives him 2054 delegates and the 2008 Democratic Nomination.

Unlike Hillary, I do like Math.

Sorry Hillary Supporter (SHE CANNOT WIN)

carl from Houston   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Hillary didn't win in Texas, Obama did she is a real joke, count the texas delagates. If she steals this I will vote McCain for sure. She have went white gettho.

Jeremy   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

According to Hillary and her supporters, the entire primary process is less meaningful than a Miss America contest.
It kills me that she is allowed to speak of disenfranchisement when the only chance she has in this election is to overturn the will of the people. I find her repulsive.

Alex   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

This is a good topic,
She is not trying to steal a election…..she actually did win Florida and Michigan Primaries…..they just were not counted…by dumb rules….
but they will sort this out by june….they have too!! too many delegates at stake between both states for both Hillary and Obama!!!
Why is everyone making her out to be some evil person…….maybe it is just fear…and truth in all of this…. I like Mr.Obama he is a nice guy and intelligent person and likable….but he is not ready for President just yet…..he will be…. but I think Hillary will win this thing by Augest in Denver….. it will be a dogfight no doubt….but she wins this thing….James Carville is right on the money with this one..!!!!!
Go HILLARY…….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David E. Francis   April 28th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Dean and the DNC are right to exclude the Michigan and Florida votes. Both Hillary and Barack agreed not to include the results of MI and FL at the beginning of primaries and caucuses. True, Dems need MI and FL to win the White House in Nov. Now that Hillary is losing, she wants to change the rules. If you can't trust her to follow the rules during the primaries, can you trust her should she win the nomination and White House? I think not. (I live and vote in MI.) The only way I see Hillary getting the nomination is by some form of 'back-room deal' with the superdelegates. I get the impression that she's trying to steal the nomination away from Obama.

Also, Barack's and John's, (Edwards), names were not on the ballot here in MI. Which is another reason not to include MI's vote—it's not fair to Barack and John. They played by the rules. I have heard quite a few people I know who voted for Hillary in the primary who wanted another primary so that they could vote for Obama. (The other choice was "Uncommited".) Another primary is not going to happen—the state legislature killed that issue. I have also heard a few of my Dem friends say that they are going to vote for McCain because of all the negative campaigning going on within the Dem Party. (And, some independents feel that way too!)

Count Michigan is a Joke   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Clinton supporters want the votes to be counted in Michigan, and they claim they're doing it 'for the people'.

But you'll only accept the results as is, and because Obama took his name off the ballot (Like the DNC told every candidate to do), the offical totals are 328,000 for Hillary, 0 for him.

Are you telling me you will accept that no one voted for him and still CLAIM TO BE COUNTING ALL THE VOTES? That's hyprocrisy!

And I loved the comments that it's Obama's fault that he removed his name and should be punished for it. Michigan and Florida messed up too, but they're exempt just because they went for Hillary?

Florida is one thing, but asking to seat Michigan as is is a joke and simply will not happen.

Unity '08

Cammi317   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Hopefully she'll run out of money by next week….

Mike   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Don't worry Hillary, Howard Dean is going to make sure that no African-American leads the Democratic ticket.

Obama, you will have a lot in common with Al Gore after this primary season is over.

Howard Dean should be on the Hillary ticket. That way the ticket can represent a liar and a thief.

Shek   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

whats she talking about? she did not abide by the rules and was cunning enough to put her name on the ballot. who do u think is more reliable? a person who plays by the rules of the game or the one who cheats? LIAR BH(Bill & Hillary)

Obama win '08   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Hillary wants Michigan and Florida, let her have them. Obviously math was not her strongest subject. The way I have calculated it, if Hillary gets 55% and Obama gets 45% of the delegates from both he will not need any more votes from superdelegates. Even with the 45% from FL and MI, once the nine remaining states are completed then Obama would end up with 2054 pledged and superdelegates.

As of today he has 1724 delegates.
He will receive at least the following:
1 - Guam
33 - Indiana (this is a split)
55 - North Carolina (b/c he is going to blow her out the water by 20%)
12 - West Virginia (gives her a 55-45 win)
21 - Kentucky(gives her a 55-45 win)
26 - Oregon (gives him a 55-45 win)
25 - Puerto Rico (gives her a 55-45 win)
8 - Montana (gives him a 55-45 win)
8 - South Dakota (gives him a 55-45 win)
Total of 1913 delegates

Even if you Add in (giving her 55% and him 45% for both:
83 - Florida
58 - Michigan

It then gives him 2054 delegates and the 2008 Democratic Nomination.

Unlike Hillary, I do like Math.

Sorry Billary Supporters (SHE CANNOT WIN)

Open Your Eyes   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

For all of you that think Hilliary is the next in line for the Presidency; think again…………because of her the Democratic Party is definitely split along Racial lines and no matter what the Pundits say, she won't be able to get us back. We will not only stay home…….we will vote "McCain"…………….at least he's believeable. In a time when we all tried to get along better……………..she has dragged those sentiments back up……………..and look where we are now!!!!!!!!!!

Lonnie H.   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

This is beyond funny because why does Hillary Clinton believe so strongly that she will even win Michigan or Florida? Florida I can see, but she was the only candidate with her name on the ballot in Michigan, and after all that has happened, why is she banking on those two states to push her over the top? It would be most funny if they held both primaries again and she lost both of them! How insulting would that be to her campaign?

Lonnie H.- Toledo, OH.

GoHillary   April 28th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

How funny that the OMAMABOTS complain about Hillary not wanting to follow the rules while claiming to believe in CHANGE.

Wake up people nobody ever brought about change by following the rules.

Her first order of business as PRESIDENT will be to sack NANCY.

The divider   April 28th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

The super delegates are making a huge mistake by allowing this race to go this long…
Hillary has no chance of winning the nomination but if this race continued for a longer period then the democrats will loose big in November. Not only the presidency, but also congress and senate.
Obama has the lead and he only needs few hundred vote to secure the nomination

masgap   April 28th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Like I said before why can't Obama allow the people to decide?

The money situation is not a problem but Obama resisted it. To me

he is just another politician. I say Michican and Florida should revote

It can be done is Obama is willing but he isn't That leadership???

Robert NYC & Miami   April 28th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

I agree with Hillary.

Hillary 2008

Hillary Supporters - Get Educated   April 28th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Obama is and has not blocked a revote in Michigan or Florida. He has specifically stated he will follow whatever the DNC decides to do with the states. He doesn't have the power politically to block a revote.

However, the Clintons have said they will only accept the results as is. They have blocked a revote several times now, claiming that the initial results must be ensued.

Hillary Clinton is just as responsible as the DNC for not making it happen.

Operation Chaos   April 28th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

trellskig

We are voting for Obama? Did you see the cross over polls from PA.
We will kill Obama in the general… that's why we want him!

McCain 08

Dan in CO   April 28th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

I support a McCain victory if Obama is denied of the nomination, not because I'd be bitter, but because any Democrat who would support the Clintons deserves to have a Republican in the White House.

Shawn   April 28th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

She won't be satisfied until she destroys Obamas chances in the general election. She has already done that. When he loses in the general election she will be quick to declare she should have been the nominee. He will be given the nomination and she and her adulterer husband will all but disappear until 2012. If anyone thinks they are going to campaign on Obamas' behalf, you don't know the Clinton's.

Mike   April 28th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

As a democrats, we need to look at the big picture and keep Nov. 08 in mind.

Only Hillary can beat McCain. This is the fact.

James Lucas Clemmons NC   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

It really does not matter which one drops out. … unless they run on the same ticket. … get use to saying President McCain.

james bowles   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Howard Dean has no credibility and should resign his post!

james
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Kay-Arizona   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

In the interview with Howard Dean Sunday, on meet the press he said:

"Here's why the rules are important. For the–this year, for the first time, we balanced the early primaries with ethnic and geographic diversity. We included a state from the South and a state from the West, because we think we can win there now. And we included states with significant numbers of minority groups who the Democrats can't win without, and those folks ought to be allowed to say early on who they think should be the president"

This is a direct quote and represents the reasoning of the DNC. Soo
should we really not count the votes from the rest of the state?

Michele Hunter   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Dean,
Give it a rest…..Let Hillary and Obama run the race. If everyone would not jump in. You're doing a dis-service to the American voters !

Let Obama hang himself I say………………Rev. Wright will see to that.

John W., Milwaukee, WI   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

Venus: "If Hillary was so great - why is she behind a rookie like Obama?"

That's a very easy one… because at every opportunity, both Senator Obama and his Britany Spear like supporters have religiously played the RACE CARD!

It is hard for some white people in America too, to be ctitical of a person in a different race, when we know that we are immediately going to be call a racist and have our motivations questioned all the time.

With 93%+ of the black vote consistently going for Senator Obama, I wonder what you think is going on here…

Jay   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

Drop Out Obama..GO AWAY

Sherry   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

Democrats have a way of shooting themselves in the foot and every time they take a step forward in gaining popularity and voter support, they take two steps back and do something stupid to give Republicans the upper hand.

Calling for the resignation of one democratic candidate by June will send media attention away from the exciting Obama/Hillary race straight to the front door of the GOP. While the media has been exaggerating, spinning and beating the Obama Hillary relationship to death, the media attention has created excitement about the Democratic party, converted many Republicans and Independents into Democrats and finaly shined a spotlight on two highly qualified and exciting democratic candidates. Notice, that until now, McCain hasn't had much of anything to say and has largely been dismissed as the unexciting Republican candidate.

With one democratic candidate out of the race, the election will suddenly turn into a McCan vs Obama or a McCain vs. Clinton race, and give 50% more media attention to the Republican candidate.
Together Obama & Hillary are hard to beat, they are interesting as a team, and they are interesting when they appear to bicker, but alone each candidate will be vulnerable to whatever scandal the Republicans are cooking up to hit the media just in time for the national election.

Scandal? The GOP could not produce a more generic, unexciting candidate than McCain, so how are they to win the election in November? My money is on a big scandal to rock the country just in time for the election and they're just waiting to see if the attack will be on Hillary or Barak. So as soon as one of the democrats drops out of the race, the GOP will start to gain momentum.

I for one am not ready to dismiss Hillary. Despite the fact that she is not allowed to count the Florida & Michigan delegates, she did pull out a huge win in PA and OH and is on track to win more. The race is too close to give up now, and anyone who is willing to suggest that now is a great time to lose a candidate has no sense of logic at all. Candidates drop out when they cannot gather any support, not when the race is so close.

Jerry from Oregon   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

she did answer Dean. No, she won't drop out.

There's no reason Obama should, he'll be ahead in pledged delegates and the popular vote by the end of the primaries.

Clinton answered Dean by saying that Florida and Michigan need to be resolved first. Florida and Michigan won't be resolved so she won't drop out.

I think it's overdue for Dean to finally show some leadership and say, "OK we'll seat Florida and Michigan's delegates at the convention, 50% go to Obama, 50% go to Clinton; that's it, no debates"

Those states can't correct the problem on their own, so let the party chairman decide. let's move on Hillary

thinking   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

The messages in the board are seriously biased. Probably it is due to the selection process which is biased, and behind it probably are just a few persons with their own bias.

Should media be biased ? That is something that really makes people sick.

joyce   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

CONCERNED DEM
get over this s-
the votes do not count and hill agreed to it cause she though she would be pre. by 2-5-08
did not happen so now she is whinning
she will get over it and it takes 48 more states to win flo-mich- is not the decider they are republican states is why she is so angry now she is republican

fay   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

Howard Dean should resign from his position as leader of the DNC.
I want all those Florida and Michigan votes counted - and if they were Hillary would have them! She won the votes she deserves to have them counted. the DNC denied the voters of Florida and Michigan - the right to HAVE THEIR VOTES COUNTED! Shame on them. They are all attempting to PUSH, SHOVE, Senator Clinton out of the way! Keep going Senator Clinton, you are going to win! You've been tested - I watched you go to the "hill" on health care and get really beat up! You deserve to win because you are the stronger candidate to beat Senator McCain!

Bernard   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

Dean has shown me he doesnt worth the waffle that Obama has thrown away. He is weak and vacilating.

Falsis in unum, falsis in omnibus   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

CNN, am I on some sort of banned list that you don't OK my stuff?

Let's try this…..

Yes, I can see Hillary ceding to Obama after she 'wins' Indiana, he beats her in NC, etc, etc….

I can also see all sorts of other things happening once I've walked through the poppy fields.

Is this post OK?

Obama '08

Hillary 08   April 28th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

Mi & FL will count in the GE.
Clinton - With MI & FL: 15.016.012 w/o 13.830.653
BHO - With MI & FL: 14.904.466 w/o 14.335.425

It seems clear who the winner is. HILLARY CLINTON!!

The Democratic Party is Finished....   April 28th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

Who and/or what is more dishonest, more divisive, more disgusting and more despicable than the current administration and the GOP? The Clintons ………. The Democratic Party is finished. Good Riddance.

gary   April 28th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

YOU CLINTON HATERS AND O.B. SUPPORTERS MAKE ME SICK. YOUR JUST AS WARPED AS YOUR CANIDATE. WHY DONT YOU JUST SAY FLA. AND MICH. ARE NOT PART OF THE U.S.A. WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF . HE TOOK HIS NAME OFF THE BALLOT. THATS HIS BIG MISTAKE NOT HRC. HE WAS AFRAID HE WASNT KNOWN GOOD ENOUGH. THAN WHY AND THE HELL DID HE EVEN START THIS RACE? HE IS THE ONE ALONG WITH THE DNC BLOKING THE VOTES FROM FLA. AND MICH. DONT GIVE ME THE CRAP THAT HE WANTS WHAT EVER THEY DECIDE.O.B. IS THE MOST CROOKED POLITICIAN AND THIS RACE. HE SURE IS THE WORST LIER , HYPOCRITICAL, RACIST AND SMOOTHEST CON MAN. THIS COUNTRY SURE ISNT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER WITH YOUNG O.B. SUPPORTERS VOTING FOR GLAMOUR. HE IS THE WORST CHOICE FOR A LEADER. GO HRC.

Jim, Indiana   April 28th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

Florida and Michigan have got to stand up for their rights! Hillary has retaken the lead as we can see in all of the polls this week. We already kn