April 28, 2008
Posted: April 28th, 2008 01:15 PM ET

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Dean suggested Monday either Clinton or Obama should drop out shortly after the last primary.
Dean suggested Monday either Clinton or Obama should drop out shortly after the last primary.

GRAHAM, North Carolina (CNN) – Hillary Clinton wouldn’t say Monday whether she agrees with Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean's latest comments that either she or Barack Obama should drop out of the race following the last Democratic primary on June 3.

“We’re going to go through these next contests, we’re going to see where we end up and we’ll take stock of where we are after they finish,” Clinton told reporters on the trail in North Carolina, adding that she feels the prolonged race has been good for both the party and voters.

Clinton said again that Michigan and Florida’s votes should be counted.

“We have to decide, do we wish to punish Michigan and Florida, two states that we have to win in the fall in order to win back the White House? When there are perfectly acceptable ways of resolving this?” Clinton asked. “So we’ve got to resolve Michigan and Florida and we’ll see how the process plays out.”


Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Howard Dean


Cal Jim 2   April 29th, 2008 1:35 am ET

Anything I say is censored so I'll try and play nice. Ok? Have you ever noticed, that Howerd Dean offten looks like a gerbil, shaved and ready to go in. When he comes out he looks like the same kind of mess he made of the DNC. Don't you think so? Not that I would know about shaved gerbils, or anything, but that's just what I hear people say. Or something. If I were Hillary, I wouldn't stand to close to him. He's looks ready to go again.

Jose I. Garcia   April 28th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

I just can't believe how backwards we are here in America for not accepting the fact that it's about time to have a woman president. Hillary has been ready from day one to be the next president. Barrack says, he is for change, talk is cheap we need action. On the other hand, Hillary also represents change and has the experience. It's not rhetoric but action that we need. I am all for Hillary she'll make an outstanding president., the kind of leader to get us out of the irreparable damage that the current president got is into.

Chris, Silicon Valley, CA, USA   April 28th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

FLORIDA & MICHIGAN VOTERS: "THANK" DEAN & DNC THIS NOV.

2012   April 28th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

LMAO!!!!!! As a lifelong independent voter, I'm loving all this. The Democratic party is quickly imploding and the Republicans aren't far behind!
Maybe we'll get back to a government "of the people" in my lifetime after all. Who woulda thunk it?
But, I wonder what all you lazy fools who need someone to feed you slogans and tell you how to think are gonna do when the puppeteers aren't there to pull your strings any more?

Life   April 28th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

This is information that the American people NEED to know; this is VITAL to ALL voters. The Clintons are scandalous. There is a case pending RIGHT NOW in CA, it’s a real, legit case Peter Paul vs Clinton. For the skeptics, the case number is : BC304174
lasuperiorcourt.org

Paul   April 28th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Obama is about just words and he cannot even debate...

Hillary is the one who has what it takes to be our President

Are you scared Mr. Obama?

Hillary 08!
Yes she will!!!

Ken   April 28th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

With all due respect, Hillary Skank, you can take your salute and stick it where the sun don't shine. And that goes for all you morons who think Bush III is a better choice that either of the [D] candidates. The voting IQ of the American public is at the level of retardation, and you people - along with your buddies the 28% true-believers and the neo-nugggets who sit in front of FOXnews and worship the likes of Limbaugh - are THE problem. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves looking at what you have perpetrated on our great country - BY CHOICE!

California Girl   April 28th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

TW:
Do the right thing. Hillary is our only choice to beat the Republicans in November. Hillary has a better plan with solutions to solve our problems that Bush created. Obama is great man, but he's not ready to handle the most difficult job in Washington, D.C.

Independent voter   April 28th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Hillary will be the best candidate.
Obama will be the best preacher.

Esperanza   April 28th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

We are praying for you Hillary. It will be scary to have an inexperienced candidate who is all talk and no walk to fight against McCain on November.
Obama will be a good pastor in church. He can inspire people just like Reverend Wright.

Jane   April 28th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Since the Democratic race is too close and Obama has an insignificant lead, Obama should consider stepping down as well. There should also be a cry for Obama to step down since he cannot close the deal on all the important states.
If the primaries and caucuses were to be done all over again, Obama at this time will not also close the deal in the smaller state because as you get to know Obama more, you get to know that he is all inspirational talks and no substance and very vague plans copied from Hillary, his opponent.

merle 7   April 28th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

September 20, 2000
Clinton's Budget Focus: More Spending, Not Debt Reduction
by Peter Sperry
Executive Memorandum #695
"We should remember what got us to this dance was discipline, fiscal discipline."

–President Bill Clinton, June 22, 2000

Now that President Bill Clinton's veto pen has ended any hope of meaningful tax reduction this year, Congress has two options for what to do with the $268 billion surplus: Use it to reduce the federal debt or spend it. It is clear that as Congress tries to finish fiscal year (FY) 2001 appropriations, the President has made his choice; spending is more important than debt
In a sensible budget process, surplus revenues would be returned automatically to the taxpayers who produce them. Until the current tax system can be reformed, requiring that the surplus be used for debt reduction is a second-best option. The proposal to include debt reduction line items in each appropriations bill Congress sends to the President would make sure that sound fiscal discipline becomes a reality.

Peter Sperry is a former Grover M. Hermann Fellow in Federal Budgetary Affairs in the Thomas A. Roe Institute for Economic Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL   April 28th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Why is everyone so afraid? this is a democracy you ignorants!
that is what you do, you vote and have primaries, she has support then let her do it, all we want is quitters? or people that are just handed the election? you have to work at it, I will not stand by a man or a woman that does not have enough respect to fight for what he/she believes in... this is greater than just a ME, ME, ME argument, if Mitt Romney had stayed (whith the little support he has) that is understanding, but Senator Clinton has a lot of support. Shame on all of you for being this way... I would like to tell my children that they should not quit when things get tough, but I guess if I was to be a true democrat I need to tell them "try really hard until it looks like the other kid is winning then if that is the case drop and let him win for the good of everyone" that's the winning attitude!

Rise Hillary Rise!

Theresa   April 28th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

and one more thing... why do so many Hillary supportors use all caps? It's almost annoying as she is.

Jp   April 28th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

I want to see Florida and Michigan vote for McCain. I want to see another Republican in office. I'm doing well and could use a beach-front property investment. So please, vote Republican or steal your victory, either way...I win.

Donovan   April 28th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Lets face it, Obama is not electable and it has nothing to do with
Rev. Wright.

The Clintons have the most successfull winning Track record against
the republican party. Dukakis, Kerry, Gore all lost due to the fact that
the Liberal arm of the Dems underpinned their Political Platforms.
Obama, although a gifted candidate has that same flaw in his campaign. Hillary is well centered, and I trust her to Beat McCain.
The Facts speak for themselves.

Hillary is not perfect, however; she would make an outstanding
Madam President

Jane, NC   April 28th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

In this country, votes are sacred! We cannot disenfranchise Florida and Michigan, not if we expect their support in the general election. The votes they've already cast must count. In Florida, neither Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama campaigned, and both their names were on the ballot. In Michigan, Obama elected not to put his name on the ballot because he knew he'd get few votes. So counting them both as is, is fair.

Kay-Arizona   April 28th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

For the record...Hillary Clinton objected to the ruling that would not count the votes from Florida and Michigan...........in January before the primary elections. Check your facts folks.

Hillary's lesbian girl friend   April 28th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

All of are right with you Hillary. Remember what we said in Seneca falls last year! Keep on girl!

Andrea Texas   April 28th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Regardless of the candidate of choice, those 2 states should not be left out, period. That is absurd! That is very unfair to all those Americans, they are taxpayers too, you know.

lamotz in PA   April 28th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Howard Dean lost his chance to be a candidate because of his arrogant verbalization. He still hasn't learned to keep his opinions to himself! Hey, Howard.....We're not interested in what you think! A lot of people voted for Hillary; she should be given her chance.

Steve   April 28th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Seriously though,
everyone, including the media, seems to believe (hope?) that the one who is behind in the delegate count after the last primary will have to drop out of the race. The funny thing is that even Dean can't force anyone to drop out of anything. The hope that Clinton will drop out is a nice fantasy. The rules are clear, one of the candidates needs 2,025 delegates to clinch. If neither has it, neither has the duty to drop out. It can go all the way to the convention (wHich I think it will this year) and be decided there. Isn't that the point of a convention? And by the way, for all you Obama supporters, just remember that in 1992, Bill Clinton was running third in the delegate count. Scary huh?

OC - CA - cubanamericanwoman   April 28th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

TO CNN -

Why won't you write an article or discuss the case that the Clintons are involved in as defendants. Peter Paul v. Hillary Rotham Clinton and William Jefferson Clienton. L.A. Superior Court case
No. BC 304 174.

VOTERS NEED TO KNOW CLINTONS AGAIN HAVE BEEN SUED FOR FRAUD!!!!

David   April 28th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Howard Dean is looking like a real idiot. He is the one who is stubborn and messed up the primaries in FL and MI. Hillary should stay in and let American voters decide this. Is is not over and we are tired of Dean trying to make it over. Democrats want to win in NOV? Keep Clinton and you will win.

candi   April 28th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Why should we reward them. If Hillary was in the lead she would not want the votes counted. And for your answer TW , it is not to say Hillary is the best candidate than Obama. Obama is following the rules, and if FL and MI didn't read the fine line then that is on them. Why reward them.

California Girl   April 28th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Hillary is the stronger candidate over Obama. Obama will not beat the Republican Machine in November. Hillary is a warrior and will fight for our country. Realistically, only Hillary can beat McCain in November.

Hillary/Elizabeth Edwards 08

Steve   April 28th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Caption for Dean photo, a picture presumably taken after a reporter asked him how he would resolve the current democratic primary crisis: "Uhhhhhhhh...."

Marshall in Nebraska   April 28th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

She will onlt agree if Obama drops out. She will not be happy until the Democrat Party is dead and gone.

Dale- from Canada   April 28th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is hell bent on destroying the Democratic Party and more importantly Senator Obama. She will ensure the Dems lose the white house in November.
Her husband did it towards the end of his term and also disgraced the American people and the highest office of the world, thus ensuring the Dems lost the white house.

Super Delegates take note

This lady is a sleezy and must not be trusted.

Sick and Tired of obama   April 28th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

I know its hard for the obamabots to accept the fact that rules are rules and the DNC rules ALLOW the MI & FL votes to count and yes, even after the fact. The people spoke and they chose Hillary get over it, obama didn't have to take his name off the ballot in MI and he shouldn't have advertised in FL, made that loss a little more painful didn't it. But the MORON'S suggesting the Dems wouldn't pay heavily if the rules committee didn't do the right thing by seating the votes, are in denial.

dave   April 28th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

is it too late for the Dems to draft Howie Dean as their prez candidate? i am sure he would be very good for the nation, in terms of his leadership potential, and in getting opposing forces to
reconcile their differences and unite for the common good.... why Dr. Dean could bring his reconciliation skills to Cairo, and have the Arabs and Israelis break bread.... and maybe go to Hong Kong and have
the Chinese Govt and the Tibetans sing of love, peace and harmony..... and get the brutal govt in Zimbabwe to make peace
with the democratic opposition... the USA, and the world, would be the real losers if Dr. Dean were NOT elected prez in 08......

united dems   April 28th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

For all those how would vote for mccain instead of dem.
vote Ron Paul
Operation republican choas

Nora, FLORIDA   April 28th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Dean needs to shut the pie hole and focus on the issue of being a man and make a decision regarding FL and MI. He is addressing issues that he has no control over. Talk about coward and to think that we have others....Super D's included, who are sitting back like idiots. Might be a good time to be an independent.

Julie.   April 28th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

I'm really tired of Obama supporters calling anyone that doesn't support Obama, filthy names and racist.

Obama is in major trouble and its not all from Wright! Getting money from a terrorist org, through his web sites, funny, how its there one day and gone the next! Doing favors for companys, I think thats in the LA papers.Do any of you have any idea what and who he is, He should not have even been allowed to be an Illinois senator, and maybe you should all find out HOW he managed to get this far,

I think the DNC are disgusting for doing this to ALL the American people.

switch   April 28th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

Okay, I hate to admit it, but Hillary was right.

Barack's weaknesses are starting to show.

His inconsistencies are becoming more obvious.

I'm changing my vote and am now supporting Hillary Clinton.

If she is not the Dem of choice, I'll vote for McCain.

Barack is just not ready. Maybe in another eight years.

Tom   April 28th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

I'm still with Hillary on this – let EVERYONE vote and let them ALL COUNT and then let's see where we are. Mr. Dean needs to shut up and go away – he's too whiny.

fred   April 28th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Way to go Hillary!! FL and MI should both be counted.

GO HILLARY!!

Deb   April 28th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Of course Hillary would want the FL and MI votes counted. Would that not be of great benefit to her??? Hillary the ever so selfish woman.

Alex in TX   April 28th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Wouldn't it be interesting to have 2 impeached married presidents. It could happen if she gets elected. She's getting sued already...Interesting possibility.

NO-BAMA   April 28th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

DON'T QUIT HILLARY

DO NOT QUIT

IGNORE DEAN, WRIGHT, PELOSI, LEAHY, RICHARDSON, OBAMA, REZKO....

INDIANA
4
HILLARY

Jenny M   April 28th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

If Hillary wins - the ads against her and Bill will make the Wright ads look like child's play.

She is supposed to be testifying in her lawsuit this fall lol that will make GREAT press right before the elections ..

jeannie N.C. Huge Hillary supporter   April 28th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

ROBERT IN ONTARIO..............Mind your own country........This is not your election...

JOANNE   April 28th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

At this time with a war going on and the economy in a mess how can you put a known liar in the white house,Hillary is taking money from colmbia to promote free trade,oh I forgot that was Bill and Hillary signed nafta into law I mean Bill signed nafta into law Hillary voted for the war in Irag but her devotees expect lyeing hillary to lie her way to the white house and than get in the whitehouse and start telling the truth.Another question that these hillary followers need to ask themselves is being a woman running a country with radical islmist who don't respect woman help us are hurt us? I am quite sure the republicans will hack away at that one if she becomes the nominee.

Jennifer   April 28th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Bill Clinton has lost a marble. Most of them are still there, but they're starting to bled out one by one.

Frank   April 28th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Can someone Please tell me why the Media never presses Mrs. Clinton about the Pledge she "SIGNED" stating that FL and MI votes would not count!

This goes straight to Integrity and Honesty. Just what does her Signature on a document mean to her? Obviously nothing!

WHERE IS THE MEDIA ON THIS CRUCIAL ISSUE?

TW   April 28th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Obama supporters are really starting to sway me toward Clinton. I live in Indiana by the way. Do you not understand the election process? Neither candidate has enough delegates to win right now. The election is not over. I, personally, want my vote counted and am glad I still have a choice. I am glad Clinton is just not bowing out because Obama supporters want her to. Last time I checked, she has received a substantial amount of votes. Everyone is so worried about disenfranchising Obama supporters, but don't seem to care about Clinton supporters. Still undecided, but leaning more and more toward Hillary every day.

Alonzo Demetrius   April 28th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

The rules have always been that the candidate that receives the MAJORITY of the votes is the party nominee. Neither Obama nor Hillary will have the majority. The rules have always been that in this case the democrat convention comes to an agreement through voting/re-voting there until a majority is reached by one of the candidates. Now, why is 2008 different? Because the neo-dems don't care for established rule but will change the rules to suit the moment. Neo-Dean and his crooked politician cronies should be fired from their jobs in the DNC.

The MAJORITY vote is the only democratic process.

Alex in TX   April 28th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Hillary the rule changer wants to focus the media attention on the FL and MI issue again. An non-issue based on the fact that both governors from each state could have vetoed the bill to move the primary. They new the consequences, deal with them.

Hillary also has to realize that this continued race is in fact destroying unity in the party. If she truly believes it isn't, then she is as blind to the issue as Bush is to the economy.

Let's get an intelligent person in office for once. One the puts the country above self.

paul oregon   April 28th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

again this is all about hillary me, me, me what else can one say
sad excuse for a person

A. Harrison   April 28th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Dean is so much like Bush, ignore the common good, and move forward blindly with ignorant banter. So glad he dind't get the nomination in 2004, probably why he seems so bitter now.

joseph   April 28th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Seating the Florida and Michigan delegations won't help Clinton. It will actually hurt her.

There are just over 300 regular delegates in play. There are also 306 superdelegates in play.

Based on the CNN calculator for the remaining races if Obama only wins 45% of the remaining votes - i.e. HRC gets a double digit win in each remaining state - Obama will have 1905 delegates and superdelegates and he would still lead by 89 delegates. (He will have 1937 delegates and superdelegates with a 153 delegate lead if he wins 52% of the vote). Which means that once you seat the Florida and Michigan delegations, even if HRC obtained Edwards' FL delegates, it is over, because Obama should reach or be very close to reaching 2025 unless some of the committed superdelegates back away from him.

Even If the DNC decides not to seat the FL and MI delegations and Obama falls slightly short of 2025 on June 3rd, he would need approximately one third of the remaining uncommitted superdelegates in order to win the nomination.

So in whose interest is served by continuing the race? Win, lose or draw, Clinton is characterized as a tough, feisty pol who takes no quarter from anyone; McCain is marginalized; new voters register; more money is raised and ala the first trial in the Rodney King case, the public is desensitized about HRC and Obama's connection with Wright.

Hillary 08   April 28th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Yeah,throw your wisdom and weight around like anyone cares Dean. You are part of the problem, poor leadership.

Erin   April 28th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

They should have had a revote in Florida and Michigan not because it would help Clinton or hurt Obama but because the vote is so close.

cindy   April 28th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

you obama supporters out there instead of winning over what Clinton said or not said , just lead them to the trials of PETER PAUL ON GOOGLE , and let them read for themselves, how corrupt and fradulent the Clinton'are, and do this on every blog and on cable networks and local newpapers , where ever you see comments. you all can make a difference

Ron L   April 28th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

I am in Michigan and ALL of you BIG MOUTHS who are crying the blues about our delegates not being counted I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE A YEAR AGO WHEN YOU HAD 2 STATES OUT OF 50 DECIDE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES???

HOWARD DEAN IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN STANDING FIRM. IF HE DIDN'T THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE WOULD REALLY BE A MESS. NOBODY!! AND I MEAN NOBODY WOULD HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR THE RULES.....

Hillary AGREED with all of this UNTIL she got behind on the votes...SHE is the problem not the rules.

WITHOUT ORDER...THERE IS ONLY CHAOS!!

debw   April 28th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

The Republicans have rummaged through Hillary's baggage and filed the contents under "Lookie, Lookie!! They want to run against her, because they clearly see how to beat her. Lying to the American people is not cool. To name only one of her fatal flaws. Obliterate Iran, there's another. The woman is completely nuts!

Monica B   April 28th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Ok kids, make sure you learn this lesson once and for eternity. Repeat after me.."Rules are meant to be broken." Next time you play your softball game or you have a swimming meet, keep playing beyond regulation, swim a few extra laps until you "WIN". If anyone asks you where you learnt this lesson, tell them Hillary Clinton taught you that.

Henri   April 28th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

The wicked witch knows she can not win and she and her filthy husband are trying to destroy Obama. What is truly amazing is I thought the American People would never fall into another trap after Bush, but here we go again. Are people insane? Why would anyone want Hillary and Bill back in the White House? I guess that really sends a very moral message to young people, i.e., have SEX right there in our Sacred White House right under your wife's nose, commit PERJURY, and go right on and pretend you are the best thing that ever happened to this country. Anyone who would vote for Hillary is a very SICK person. Of course she has no pride. The woman is evil and is determined to get back in OUR WHITE HOUSE no matter if it means destroying the Dem party. The Clintons are using the same tactics used against Gore and Kerry. Destroy your opponent or refuse to vigoursly campaign for (Gore/Kerry) to ensure Bush stays in until it's 'Hillary's Turn'! WAKE UP PEOPLE. Don't vote for the scum bags. These liars are positioning themselves for Hillary to front as Prez so Bill can continue to take DIRTY money for his so-called speeches. He's full of hot air but it ain't worth $109 million.

Thinking   April 28th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Play by the rules otherwise you're disqualified! This is the way it is and I think it must stay that way. Obama understand this perfectly, Hillary not.

I'm pro re-election of the two states, fare and square. If not, so be it.

Beverly   April 28th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Florida & Michigan knew what the rules were are willing to accept it to move up their primaries. Those voters should penalize their own elected officials. Enough of this whining.

Hilary drop out now, give you party a fignting chance of winning in November. If you are not the nominee are you doing yourself any favors for 2012. If the democrats loose in November this will be one more negative to lay at your doorstep.

Bdiddy   April 28th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

The race is over...Hillary can't catch up. She's very proud right now and remember pride cometh before destruction.

David, Silver Spring, MD   April 28th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

I'm sick of Hillary posing as the champion of Florida and Michigan. The voters in those states have only their own party officials and congressional members to blame.

Hillary is turning on the DNC in order to curry favor with these voters. She makes the party look bad, and if Obama gets the nomination, she weakens his ability to win in November.

She disappoints me.

Desire - Michigan   April 28th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

I am from Michigan and I have right to insist that my vote counts. I do not need Howard Dean or Jeniffer Granholm to tell me should I vote or not. Both of them should take the responsibility for this mess, not people from Michigan.

Rob   April 28th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

TomDavie wrote:

"I love Obama supporters who are now backed into this stupid argument.
clinton is going to STEAL the nomination from Obama.
Obama has a LEAD in delegates. Thats it.
He cant get 2024 delegates. Its simple.
You cant STEAL something from someone when they didnt WIN it in the first place.
If this is the only argument the Obama fans have, he wont be the nominee."

The words of an intellectual giant.

I think of Obama ends up with more committed delegates, has more popular votes (don't include Michigan!), wins more state primaries and caucuses...and the nomination goes to Hillary because of some backroom deals to snag superdelegates and allocate Michigan/Florida delegates...I think in the minds of many, that would constitute stealing the election.

And if that happens, get used to saying "President McCain", because Hillary Clinton has only a small chance to beat John McCain if she wins the Democratic nomination with more ELECTED delegates, and she has absolutely no chance of winning if there's even a whiff of suspicion that some shady deals were pulled for her to get the nomination. That's a dead certain guarantee.

Take this to the bank: Clinton can only win the nomination by making deals and winning at a brokered convention. And if she gets the nomination in that fashion, she will never ever ever ever ever ever be able to win the general election.

Any questions on why Howard Dean wants her butt out of the race before convention?

SS   April 28th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

When the votes are divied up 50/50 then what will your argument be?

Xavier, Saint Louis, Missouri   April 28th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

I must congratulate Hillary, she uses a lot of psychology and manipulation and that’s why she's able to get the uneducated and older vote. However, most educated American can see right through her.
People, it’s not about debates or the voters in Florida or Michigan. If the rolls were reversed, she would not be asking for another debate and she would fight very hard to follow the rules of the DNC to make sure Florida and Michigan does not count.
But when you're desperate and loosing, like Hillary is, you want more debates and you want to count disqualified votes. She is not the King of the Democratic Party. She has to follow the rules just like everybody else and if she truly cared about the Democratic Party, she would have dropped out after loosing 11 contests in-a-row. She is truly a selfish individual.

Kent D   April 28th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

The Clintons are cheaters –
Bill cheats in White House closets
Hillary cheats in the ballot booth

What did you say about Michigan and Floriday last fall, Hillary?

Liar!

Voting for Hillary is a vote for the status quo. Can we afford four more years?

Frank   April 28th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

You have probably read on CNN that Dean wants either candidate to pull out by June but everyone knows he means Hillary. Maybe Howard Dean Should drop out in June. The way the DNC and Dean has managed the Primaries is an absolute national disgrace.

Voters in Florida and Michigan have been disenfranchised from their right to vote for their nominee in the national elections. The voters in these 2 states did not cause this problem. The state governments and the DNC did that and it would seem that Florida's Republican government created this situation intentionally.

So now in a Democratic Republic, voters have lost their rights. This is a debacle. Bad enough that we have a President who was crowned in 2000 because of the Florida election mess, now this.

Of course everyone knows that the simple and fair solution, is to organize re-run Primaries. This would address fairness to both candidates and more importantly re-establish the rights of almost 3 million citizens.

Even the cost issue has been addressed but Obama refuses because this could possibly compromise his lead, never mind that it is only right. What happened to the great democrat who wants to bring everyone together, you know unite people. Or the concept of doing things differently in Washington by doing away with the old style Washington politics 2 step. What B_ _ L SH _ T, Obama’s no different. He just babbles out all of those sanctimonious platitudes.

I believe it is within the DNC's powers to force the issues and set up the re-run but it does not want to upset African Americans or Obama because he is black. If there were 2 white candidates this issue would have been resolved. This is the truth but nobody dares to admit it publically.

Ron L   April 28th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

NEWS FLASH....Hillary is a MEMBER of the DNC she is NOT the DNC...
She keeps acting a JERK she may soon be an EX-SENATOR from the State of New York...

What a friggin EGO!!!

Debbie   April 28th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Hillary needs to make the song "Hoping and Wishing" her campaign song. The Florida and Michigan vote is a sad situation but all Democratic candidates new going into this race that they would not count. Obama is not responsible for that mess but the Republican party in those states are. Where was Clinton and her soapbox when all of this was going on back in August.. They cannot be counted now. There is a bias against Obama in those states because of the Clinton machine's spin that Obama doesn't want the votes to count. and it is somehow his fault. He wasn't even on the Michican ballots. Hillary needs to spin herself out of this race. Her political pandering makes me switch to another station everytime she comes on. Desparatiion is not flatteriing to her. Hee-haw

Debbie   April 28th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

I wish the DNC stop tip toeing around her like they're afraid of her. Or do they owe BIll something. She parades around like she has the final say so about the DNC decision. Stop treating her like a "woman" and treat her like a candidate. Of course she's going to whine and of course BIlls going to get mad. That's why the support delegates won't come out. THey don't want all of the drama. If they were for her they would say so. We don't need Clinton drama on top of all of the issues we have in this country. At least Obama will unify the party and have the countries best interest in mind. THe CLintons only care about their own dynasty. Who claims to give 30% of the earnings to charity and the charity winds up being you and your family. GIve me a break.

Coinflip   April 28th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

This is not the election for the Presidency! The DNC could pull a name out of a hat, or flip a coin to determine the nomination if they wanted. The only thing the DNC is doing is allowing one candiditate to put the words "Democratic Party" by their name on the ballot.

If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, there is nothing preventing her from still running in the General Election in November, she just wouldn't be able to have the words "Democratic Party" by her name on the ballot.

billabong   April 28th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

There's 50 states in the USA not 48. The Dems can't win without MI. & Fla.

Robert   April 28th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

CNN,
You are very biased against Obama... Yesterday, you gave his pastor 3 housrs and today morning another hour. You are working very hard to make him loose. You are just looking for any news against him to make him loose. Are you supporting Hillary or all of this for McCain?
Unfair biased media...

Jenny M   April 28th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

If the nomination is decided at the convention McCain will win and that is what Hillary is up to and that is all she is up to .. I can't believe NY would even elect her to the senate again .

You can't run a national campaign in 2 months – period. McCain has had 8 months to prepare and the D's are supposed to prepare in 2 ?

Forget it , going to the convention is the kiss of death for who gets the nomination including Hillary. Not to mention the Democratic party .

This woman is completely nuts and everyone just stands by and watches her rip everything to shreds ..

HFT in Texas   April 28th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

My question is WHY did Hillary compaign in Michigan and Florida when they didn't follow the rules in the first place? When you don't follow rules there are conquences. The person that needs to drop out is the one that is behind – numbers are the only thing that COUNTS in this race (Honest Numbers I may add)!!!!

MD Democrat   April 28th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Yes Hillary! Keep up the fight! Continue to ignore the nonsense projected toward you to drop out of the race.

Hillary 2008 all the way!

Emily   April 28th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Clinton agreed to not count Michigan and Florida before the primaries. Even though she agreed to it, she continued to campaign in these states. Unlike Clinton, Obama withdrew his name from the ballot in Michigan and didn't campaign in either state. To count Florida and Michigan at this point would be completely unfair to Barack Obama. Do I agree with the Democratic party's decision to ignore Florida and Michigan's results? No. But to count them at this point, after deciding that they wouldn't be counted would be undemocratic.

tracker   April 28th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Fay i agree with you..Who is Dean??? Because he blew his own chance he is now trying to steal Hillarys...When are the delegates and super delegates going to get it??WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA....I don't like his friends or pastor Wright..Because Hillary has shown Obama for what he really is she suppose to drop out..He has cancelled the next debate because his campaign and supporters know he don't stand a chance against her..He knows nothing about the issues..He likes to push the race card..He is a liar and that has been proven time and time again..Brush that off.>What is Obama cooking??>AMERICANS<Rocky??Not even close your run is near the end..GO HILLARY

what?   April 28th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

With 93%+ of the black vote consistently going for Senator Obama, I wonder what you think is going on here…SCUSE ME . . .
COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IF HILLARY GETS SUPPORT FROM HER GENDER AND OBAMA GETS HIS SUPPORT FROM HIS RACE. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? She's complimented as keeping her loyal followers, and he gets maligned because he gets support from his race and/or all of us black folk got to be voting for Obama JUST BECAUSE he's black. I can't wait for this to be over. I though the last election was bad. SHEESH

Roger   April 28th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

I think we should have a poll in MI and FL and ask them if they would vote for Obama at the general election. I think that if we did that, then we would see for sure that he wouldn't be able to beat McCain in November. I think that a very large percentage of MI and FL hold a grudge against Obama for neglecting them.

D.   April 28th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

With McCain becoming an Obama cheerleader, it proves that the republicans want Obama to win. Because republican party knows...
McCain against Obama equals a republican win.

Hillary is the best chance for the democratic party to take back the White House. So, democrats stop fighting and start supporting the only hope you have in the next presidential election...Hillary Clinton.

Mogus   April 28th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

How – HOW – can people be voting for Hilary? Seriously! Don't you people realize that she's on track to RUIN the United States?

Between her sniper fire comment, Penn, and the fact that she is still in second place while having the audacity to question why Obama can't "seal the deal", she's only succeeding in tearing apart the Democratic Party for her own selfish means.

Mark my words, with another Clinton in the White House we will become a third-world country, and all you Clinton Supporters will have no one to blame but yourselves.

Obama '08

Tubby The Tuba from Texas   April 28th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

If Floriday and Michigan don't vote democratic then those states will not get the health insurance the democratic party is presenting, along with the other particulars that the democratic party is throwing out there. Don't kid yourself...they'll vote democratic. That's just hype and TV trying to sell air space and papers trying to sell their junk.

Working Gal in Big D   April 28th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

I still am having a mighty difficult time with you people that want a racist, "preacher" for president. EVERY picture/photo I see of him, he has his head cocked with that smirk. I just cannot imagine 4 years of that crap!! NOBAMA!!

GO McCAIN!!! (now CNN, your little favorite is starting to crumble, who are you going to pick on now?)

Ilona Proud Canadian   April 28th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

CNN, I really get a chuckle now, when I see so many people complaining about you not posting their comments, they just don't know how many others have the same complaints. Please get both of these comments through moderation, they just seem to be hanging out there (awaiting moderation) I'm sure no one else can see them, they are in a little space all there own, called "comment limbo"
thanks

Matt in Florida   April 28th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Hillary is no Al Gore. For the benefit of the nation, Gore accepted defeat and did not pursue a path of legal manuevering in 2000. Al Gore took the high road. We clearly cannot count on such statesmenship from a politician like Hillary.

As far as counting the votes in Michigan, I can't recall whose name was on the ballot. Was it just Fidel Castro or was it his brother Raul? To suggest that the votes in Michigan be counted when only one name was on the ballot makes Hillary look as desparate for power as a communist dictator.

Jack in ND   April 28th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

""but she was the only candidate with her name on the ballot in Michigan""

Exactly. People who supported Obama in Michigan had no choice but to choose uncommitted, but now Clintonites want to deny Obama a claim to any of those votes, which essentially disenfranchises any Michigander whose choice was Obama.

That's why their own claims of being disenfranchised ring so hollow. They're hypocritical.

Interestingly, Obama currently does better in Michigan in polls both against Hillary directly, and also against McCain than she does in Michigan.

Tim, Arkansas   April 28th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Pennsylvania was predicted to be Hillary's biggest lead in the entire race, and she only won it by 10%. If she won every race left by 10% more than Obama, and also received 10% more of the remaining superdelegates it still WOULD NOT EVEN BRING HER TO A TIE!!!

She would need over 15% more in ever single race to get a tie. She could not do it in PA, and she cannot do it in any of the remaining races. She is tearing the Democrat Party in half, and it's making the Republicans very happy!!!!!

Kerry in VA   April 28th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Hillary & Bill have already done enough damage to this country and this voting process. We wanted something new for this country and they have thrown us back into old politics. Obama and Hillary both agreed to not count Michigan & Florida and now she is going back on her word. She will be forever doing this if she takes the White House. If she had any respect for herself and this country she would follow the rules and present herself like a lady. We need the nonsense to stop to save this country and being divided is not going to help. Obama may not be as experienced as some would like him to be but he is willing change the old politics that have gotten us into the mess. Hillary needs to look at what she is doing and stop thinking that winning is everything, because sometimes when you win you loose everything. Hillary be a lady and stop acting like a spoiled brat.

Linda   April 28th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Hillary should drop out she the one losing anyway.

White male for Obama   April 28th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Hillary said manytimes that President set the tone in other words the leader set the tone and members follow.

Why on earth she wants president to set a date to withraw American trop from Iraq and believe the commenders will follow, but she does't want DNC leader to set the tone or enforse what was agreed upon?

The rule will stay and to resolve the problem is better left for DNC leadership.
Hillary is a candidate not a DNC leader she must follow the rules oir she will be out.

DEAN please make it clear for Hillary that if she continues to attack the DNC rule that she agreed and signed in writen, she will be out.
Someone has to be leader ...right..
show your leadership Howard Dean.

Tubby The Tuba from Texas   April 28th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Perfect solution by Hillary to solve the Florida and Michigan situation, to which she agreed to until she started loosing is for to get the wins in both states. She has repeatedly gone around the country crying that she won Michigan, (who did not even have Obama's name on it) saying that she won the major states like Florida and Michigan. How immoral. But look at all the people who find that even though she is dishonest, they love her because of her sex. Wait until the American people find out about their vetted candidate and her true personal life.

Ryan, New York, NY   April 28th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Oh, I definitely think we should seat Florida and Michigan. That way, all of the states will get to witness the precedent that if you break the rules of the Democratic Party, you will be forgiven and permitted to vote like they did nothing wrong.

As a consequence, all of the states can play leapfrog with their dates and we can have primaries in 2011, 2010 if we're lucky. We can have a 2nd set of elections right after the Congressional races and drag this nomination process out for at least 2.5 years for a 4 year job. It'll be great, as I feel this campaign hasn't run nearly long enough. I'm curious to know what Obama's 2nd grade teacher is doing now and whether he or she was a good enough role model. A perpetual campaign would ensure that I find out because I can't vote, in good conscience, without knowing absolutely everything about anyone that's ever come into contact with the candidates.

As a bonus, candidates won't ever have to do their day jobs as Senators, Governors, and Representatives, as those are obviously irrelevant.

Anything so that queen Hillary can regain her rightful home at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

D Frank   April 28th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

You have probably read on CNN that Dean wants either candidate to pull out by June but everyone knows he means Hillary. Maybe Howard Dean Should drop out in June. The way the DNC and Dean has managed the Primaries is an absolute national disgrace.

Voters in Florida and Michigan have been disenfranchised from their right to vote for their nominee in the national elections. The voters in these 2 states did not cause this problem. The state governments and the DNC did that and it would seem that Florida's Republican government created this situation intentionally.

So now in a Democratic Republic, voters have lost their rights. This is a debacle. Bad enough that we have a President who was crowned in 2000 because of the Florida election mess, now this.

Of course everyone knows that the simple and fair solution, is to organize re-run Primaries. This would address fairness to both candidates and more importantly re-establish the rights of almost 3 million citizens.

Even the cost issue has been addressed but Obama refuses because this could possibly compromise his lead, never mind that it is only right. What happened to the great democrat who wants to bring everyone together, you know unite people. Or the concept of doing things differently in Washington by doing away with the old style Washington politics 2 step. What B_ _ L SH _ T, Obama’s no different. He just babbles out all of those sanctimonious platitudes.

I believe it is within the DNC's powers to force the issues and set up the re-run but it does not want to upset African Americans or Obama because he is black. If there were 2 white candidates this issue would have been resolved. This is the truth but nobody dares to admit it publically.

simply amazed   April 28th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

the most troubling part of Hillary's position on Michigan and Florida is that she was perfectly willing to exclude them from the primary when she believed she was the heir apparant.

Now that she is behind, somehow she claims that the party rules equate disenfranchising voters (a move she supported if that is the case) as well as claiming victory in a contest where she was the only person on the ballot.

Hillary is nothing but treacherous. After going into a war in Iraq based upon leaderships that would say anything or do anything to gain support why on earth would we want Hillary who has already demonstrated she is exactly the same way.

Nora   April 28th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

She means if she is in the lead it can be over. She won't care about Fl and Michigan then. This thing is never going to be over if Hillary has anything to say about it. She is just way too funny.

kathy   April 28th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Everybody needs to google Paul vs Clinton it's very intersting . before you vote.

Helena   April 28th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

After the last states have voted – Hillary should bow out gracefully and with dignity. Barack Obama is ahead with delegates & the popular vote and after Indiana & North Carolina he will be even further ahead.
If she has any integirty she will do the right thing and support Barack as she said she would at the last debate so that we may unify the Democratic party.

Comment is Awaiting Moderation   April 28th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Hillary R. Clinton will stick it out because she is a fighter, she is a winner and she will be the next president in 2009.

She is exactly the type of president that is needed in America right now, someone with intelligence, someone with solutions and someone who knows Washington and it tangled and convoluted rituals and someone who has great patience and effort and skillis to be Commander in Chief.

As far as North Carolina is concerned; maybe more BABY BOOMERS will come out to close the percentage that the African-Americans will give to Obama, his people who support his up to and including 97%!!!.

bernice   April 28th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

She becomes more and more silly and shrill as time goes on. Can anyone else say DESPERATE.

Milwaukee for Obama   April 28th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

why are you not posting comments?

Roger   April 28th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Dean should keep his opinions to himself and let the proccess play itself out.

jeannie N.C. Huge Hillary supporter   April 28th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

If Florida and Michigan are not counted, then the election will not be fair play. It isn't the voters fault that the rules were broken by their state represenatives. This will be the biggest scandel ever in political history.. Howard Dean is an idiot. This must be resolved...MUST... Not only is it un American, it's a faulter for democracy..This is still America isn't it ?? WE THE PEOPLE............NOT JUST SOME OF THE PEOPLE..

Big gator   April 28th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

I live in Florida and I say don't worry about us. We all don't want a re-vote speak for youself.

OBAMA 08

Ben- Portland   April 28th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Oh yeah- fay & all the others talking disenfranchisement, remember that the state party leaders decided to go ahead with the leapfrog primaries knowing what the price would be... don't bark a Dean.

Gal   April 28th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

The will of the people will show by June 3, THAT is why he said the loser should then drop out.

All primaries are over on JUNE 3, unless your wanting the SD to over rule the will of the people...

A conservative   April 28th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Hasn't it occurred to the dems that neither of these 2 has the leadership abilities America needs now! Howling at the opposition on everything is not leadership!

Jack in ND   April 28th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

""The way I have calculated it, if Hillary gets 55% and Obama gets 45% of the delegates from both he will not need any more votes from superdelegates.""

They don't want to give Obama anything from Michigan. Nada. Zilch.

Clintonites got greedy, and thus will get nothing.

Sallie Mae   April 28th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

I–like everyone else–am so sick of Hillary! Just go away!!

OBAMA '08

Ilona Proud Canadian   April 28th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Hello Everyone,

I don't think we should really get too excited about these polls which were supposedly taken today,.. google...rcp polls. You will get so much info there that you will be able to keep updated. Just try to analyze these polls, and check out the time period covered, how many days, how many pollsters, earliest day before, or after significant events etc. Polls can be reported to support one candidate or another it just depends on how the data is manipulated.

Hillary 08   April 28th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Dean first resolve FL and MI and Jeremiah Wright & Obama
then we can talk about drop out
Hillary 08

STOP THE MADDNESS!!!!   April 28th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

ANOTHER LIE FROM THE CLINTONS!! BILL CLINTON DID GO TO FLORDIA TO CAMPAIGN HE WAS SHOWN ON TV. MY FRIEND CALLED ME TO TELL ME TO HURRY TO MY TV TO WATCH BILL BREAKING THE RULES THAT THEY WOULD NOT CAMPAIGN THERE, AND THERE HE WAS DOING WHAT HE DOES WHICH IS ANYTHING HE DECIDES TO DO, TO HELL WITH RULES AND THE AMERICA PEOPLE WHEN HE WANTS WHAT HE WANTS, AFTER ALL HE IS A CLINTON!!

briley   April 28th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

One of the interesting facts as of yet, is the recent polls indicating that Hillary Clinton will beat John McCain in the general election. While Obama polls show he is tied with McCain if the race were to proceed with his name on the ticket. Personally, I believe that the white house is way more important than this fight between Hillary and Obama. As a democrat I want to see us win the house back, and really see some type of change. Its clear that Hillary has a distinct advantage over McCain and thats definitely something to consider.

And as for Florida and Michigan, I have relatives in Florida who are devastated that their votes will not be counted. It really is a shame. The people of these states should not be punished for something that is completely out of their control. Hillary is right, Michigan and Florida should count. Obama should be fighting for them too, but he isnt because he knows he will lose those states. We live in a democracy, where everyones vote is "supposed" to count, and if Obama really believed in that he would be campaining for those votes to count!

Susie   April 28th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

It is funny how Dean and the Obama supporters chant "RULES ARE RULES" until the rules do not fit their plans. Dean and the DNC made the rules that punished the voters of Florida and Michigan for the actions of their legislators. They did not help ensure a revote, even though a revote was within the rules. Now, they want to change the rules–the rules say the unpledged delegates make their own decision based on whatever criteria each delegate chooses; they have until the convention to make that choice. But, Dean and the Obama supporters want to change those rules and insist that the unpledged delegates support whoever gets the most delegates and announce that decision before July. I am totally disgusted by the bias of the media and the caucus process. I will vote for McCain instead of Obama in November. Dean and the DNC have ensured that Obama is nominated–they may shove Obama down our throats but they cannot make us swallow.

A.P. Fox   April 28th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Donna
Michigan and Florida got slapped in the face by it's own politicians. Agree to the truth and quite being brainwashed. If you want to blame someone, blame the people at fault. Obama is only following the rules and Clinton has reversed her position on Michigan and Florida because she wants to win! That is it. Quite crying and kick the bums out that put you in this position.

KC Atlanta   April 28th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

After reading some of the comments from both clintons and obamas supporters,"quote vote for mcbush if my candidate is not that makes me sisk

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Kentucky   April 28th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

Looks like people are starting to realize and remember the next president will be elected by the electoral college.
Hillary Clinton is by far the best and strongest candidate to take on McCain President Clinton 2009!

Ben- Portland   April 28th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

Why Michigan and Florida again? It’s like a broken record. However, I remember distinctly her and her folks agreeing that Michigan and Florida should not count back when this whole thing started. She obviously “accidentally” left her name on the Michigan ballot and “didn’t campaign” in Florida (Although she did have a victory party there, right? Wasn’t she on stage clapping and giving a speech that night- IN FLORIDA), knowing that those votes were necessary. Now she’s got them in her pocket and is trying to use them, like someone with expired coupons. It’s over, they can’t seat them. If you absolutely must have them, just do a 50/50 split and tell everybody to sit down, shut up, and think twice about jumping the gun in 2012.

Roger   April 28th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

Ah well...Don't count the MI and FL votes, let Obama win the nomination, and face FL and MI's wrath at the general election which will be giving the election away to McCain. Either way we go Obama isn't going to be the president.

Shawn   April 28th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

To Fay: You are a Moron and indicative of the sub educated whites that seem to embrace Clinton.

Tom,des moines   April 28th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

LET COUNT ALL THE VOTE. HILLARY U R OURS NEXT PRESIDENT.

joe   April 28th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

Mccain is looking for V.P and I think Hillarry will be the best, She is already doing his job. You know Hillary remainds me of now Linda Tripp

Mike in Columbus   April 28th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

Only she could think this is good for the party and the voters...

She could have made history as the first female v.p. under Obama, and then been a shoe in to make history again as president 8 years later. But, she is far to self-serving to do what is best for the Dems and the country. I won't vote for McCain, but if I have to vote for Hillary I will plug my nose as I do it!

Tony Z- MD   April 28th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

HRC Supporters,

Obama and Edwards were not on the Michigan ballot. They agreed not to campaign and Hillary got 40% of the vote. Do you think she would be saying anything if she was leading. Do your research and you will find the contradiction.

As for popular vote. How do you count the caucuses? That is right small states and caucuses do not count.

If you'll are such big supporters- help her raise money to pay her bills. Small business in America needs it.

georgia   April 28th, 2008 3:44 pm ET

Hillary we already know your responses always depend on how the situation benefits only you. By the way have you scolded your fellow boiler-maker drinker,Rendell ,about his good working relationship w/ Mr Farrakhan or is he only an untouchable when you allude to a connection between he & Obama. It's tough for an honest person to have to fight thru the double standards ,hypocrisy & lies from the likes of you,Bill & McCain but I think American's vision ,hearing & discernment is keener & won't settle for anything short of real ,honest to goodness change. Amen to that !! Obama 08 !! Showing true courage & stamina thru a situation where no matter what is said & done they will pick it apart, distort & deny because of their own egos & fear !! Your support is strong & diverse because change is needed to get USA back.

Hillary McCain   April 28th, 2008 3:44 pm ET

Hillary, quite using FL and MI for your own political gain and ambitions. Even if you had a revote, it would not make a difference. So, quite trying too lie to the American people because you really do not a revote anyways.

Hillary should have focused more on all those "small states" that played by the rules, as well, there are still 9 more primaries to go in states that played by the rules.

If Hillary would have focused on winning every state, big or small, she would not be in this mess.

Stop blaming others, or quite now!

scott   April 28th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

Dean and Pelosie Both have never done what we first Hired them to do for the democatic party. Remember how they were suppose impeach bush both a waist of air

John San Francisco   April 28th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

McCain is our next President, Just watch. The Democratic Party is finnish.

I am listenning to Hillary, the back lash is comming Hillary. You wont see the White House. The split has been made and there is no going back.

Maybe McCain may select Hillary as VP? That would be great. The first Woman VP. Would that be enough Power Hillary? Barak you can go back to the Senate and continue to help the good people of Ill. Is that good enough Bloggers. What will it take to get you guys to see. I know!

McCain as President
Rev Wright Vice President

go Hillary 2008
go Barak 2008
Both of you are going back home. Then you can look back and see how all that campayne money could have been spent on working together.

Matt   April 28th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

Electability is gradually becoming a code word for a black man can't win the white vote. if that is what people are trying to say why don't they just say it instead of beating around the bush. I have heard of all these talk of he can't win the so-called white "Reagan" democrats. and hence she is much more electable than he. I think her calculation is based on the fact that she will get the black vote which is ridiculous. I do not see how she can beat McCain in general election this year or win in 2012 without the black voters either. Her husband needed the same black voters to win all his elections. Maybe it is time the black voters consider the GOP instead of this hypocrisy in the Democratic party.

Rohit   April 28th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

Stand your ground Chairman Dean. The party and real democrats wre with you on this. Do not let any individual destroy the party.

Rules are rules. You cheat, you pay.

Hillbilly   April 28th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

I agree with Mary 1000%.

"She makes me sick! She will stick it out even if it means tearing the Democrat party apart. It's all about ME!"

Just looking and hearing HRC makes me physiclly ill.

Please just go away Billary!!!

Susan   April 28th, 2008 3:42 pm ET

How can the Democratic party tell Michigan and Florida that their votes don't count, because they moved up their election dates; but then proclaim that the decision regarding who should be the Democratic candidate needs to be moved up to June? If they follow through on this, its pure Hypocrisy!

Linda   April 28th, 2008 3:42 pm ET

Dean should not of suggested Obama drop out, he's winning. Hillary is the one losing ! Hillary punished Michigan and Flordia when she left her name on the ballot in their state. She mislead the people into believing they could vote. If Michigan and Flordia have an issue it should be with Clinton.

Mike in Columbus   April 28th, 2008 3:42 pm ET

Sad little woman.... NEVER gonna be President!

errrr   April 28th, 2008 3:39 pm ET

The bitter Obama supporters can only cling to Mathematics now.

They even don’t want to talk about “change”, “hope”, and “judgment”, which Obama dare not to mention after the exposure of Wright’s comments.

Debbie   April 28th, 2008 3:39 pm ET

Florida and Michigan. Hillary didn't care about you when she was in the lead. SHe said these 2 states didn't matter as much remember.
She also is saying that since she won the big states the other states don't count as much. So if she wins the general election are we going to matter then. Hillary owes favors to the following lobbyist groups. Senator Hillary Clinton has taken over $800,000 from lobbyists, more money than any other candidate — Republican or Democrat:
Over $130,000 from energy lobbyists
Over $130,000 from drug company lobbyists
Over $125,000 from health care and insurance lobbyists.”
Energy: $442,800
Pharmaceuticals/health products: $450,450
Hospitals, health services/HMOs and insurance companies: $552,050
Health professionals: $114,755.

joe   April 28th, 2008 3:39 pm ET

Mccain is looking for V.P. and i think Hillary will be the best.

Obama all the way...   April 28th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

GIVE IT A REST ALREADY WITH MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next we will be hearing stories about her childhood in Michigan and Florida.............and Indiana and North Carolina....and Puerto Rico....

henry lederman   April 28th, 2008 3:37 pm ET

It seems to me like we are watching an "emperor has no clothes syndrome".

Hillary agreed to not campaign in Mich and Fla. but went against her agreement and now wants to count them. Where is the integrity in that? How is the world going to trust someone who keeps her word when it serves her? How is it that the news isn't jumping on this point?

And how is it that all we see on tv these day is about 80% Hillary coverage and 20% Obama coverage?

And what can we say about the blindsightedness of someone who is so attached to winning that she does "her math" in a way that she stays in a race she can't win, at least based on the parameters that define winning?

Henry

Nate   April 28th, 2008 3:36 pm ET

Actually guys and gals, republicans want Obama as candidate, he's scoring very poorly in the polls. In fact recently Mccain backed off on his aggressive stance about Obama's pastor.... Why? Because it helps him get votes in primaries. He'll jump back on that bandwagon if he gets through.

Don't be blind, go read, go check numbers. Hillary is winning in all of the polls, we've seen enough of obama because of this wonderful primary season, the best in the history of the states, every state gets to be in the limelight, and now this will help democratic voters in those states to really become involved. The only thing this extended time on the campaign trail is doing is helping whichever dem candidate comes out. I'd rather dirty laundry be aired now so that Mccain has no firepower come November.

RG   April 28th, 2008 3:36 pm ET

How can a party make a rule that goes against state law?

Florida republicans control the governership, congress and senate - they moved up the primary despite democrats protests.

All you Obama lovers, he is a professor of constitutional law.

Ask him, is it constitutional for a party to make a rule that disenfranchises a state?

As soon as Obama figured out that if he let the revote in Michigan and Florida happen, he will be behind in the popular vote – he put a stop to the initiative.

He is not all that clean and honest as people might like to believe. Otherwise he would have agreed to the re-vote – regardless of the 'expected' outcome.

Jackie   April 28th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

I will NEVER, NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton. I don't understand why everyone thinks Obama has issues – what issues? Reverend Wright? Flag Pins? Please I can't believe Americans even take the time to think about those things.

Venus   April 28th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

Keep going Hillary! Obama just got another superdelegate! Plus, he got on Saturday!

Go Obama!

Hillary – you will not be the next president!

Tom, Drexel Hill, PA   April 28th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

The prolonged race has not been good for the Democratic party or the voters, only for Billary's own selfish intentions. Hillary knows she will not win the nomination this time so she will do her best to hurt (soon to be President Elect) Obama and the Democratic party for her 2012 hopes.

White male for Obama   April 28th, 2008 3:34 pm ET

To resolve Mich.and Flo is not Hillary's business. Let the DNC decide that. Everyone agreed with the rules before the race began, to nend it now is selfish.

Hillary or McCain - NObama!   April 28th, 2008 3:34 pm ET

Hillary should DEFINITELY stay in – Dean and Obama should drop out. Dean's stupid rules and Obama preventing a revote cost me my Florida vote, and I will NEVER forget that come November if Obama is the Democratic nominee. Dean can "hope" we'll pull together for Obama, but it will never happen.

Nunya   April 28th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

So clueless.

Anyone in either camp with half a brain can see that the prolonged race has had a big effect on polarizing the two camps of supporters in such a way that they are not going to reconcile at the end.

“We have to decide, do we wish to punish Michigan and Florida..."

Or do we punish all the other 48 states that played by the rules? Not to mention punishing all those people in Florida and Michigan who chose *not* to vote because they knew it went against the rules.

Kansas Veteran   April 28th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

Someone that is not even capable of rendering the proper respects to the flag and nation wants to be President. What a joke, Obama gets the nod, McCain will eat him alive.

Go Hillary 08.

Nando, Florida   April 28th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

Hillary the People have already decided they want OBAMA you cant catch him you lost 11 in a row and Also he has More Delgates and More States won and Never has to go on television and BEG FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE WILL BURN IT TO THE GROUND BEFORE WE LET YOU AND YOUR SEX ADDICTED HUSBAND BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP THE MADDNESS!!!!   April 28th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

The biggest problem with this is Howard Dean, Chairman of the DNC should have already demanded Clinton to drop out long before he allowed her attempts of discrediting both Obama and the Democratic Party. Howard Dean is accountable for this mess just as much as Hillary. We have a nominee already OBAMA! And it has been said over and over on all news media sources that she must discredit him and make him appear unelectable. Well with this being said time must be given for OUR , PARTY'S NOMINEE TO BE DISCREDITED. Even the most dumbest person on earth can reason that if you do yourself harm it's going to hurt you the body!!

Now this nonsense of Fla & Mi. these votes DO NOT COUNT!! According to ALL OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS that is written and signed on paper by Party leaders. Nationals as well as the States Representatives,& ALL CANDIDATES !! The VOTERS in both states were aware of the punishment BEFORE they VOTED and if they had a problem with RULES they should have PROTESTED BEFORE they VOTED NOT AFTER!! HILLARY CLINTON KNEW BEFORE AND IS EVEN ON NATIONAL TV. SAYING SHE AGREES WITH THE RULES, WHERE WAS HER LOVE AND CONCERN FOR THE VOTERS THEN? SHE IS ASKING FOR SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS NOW THAT RULE BE CHANGED NOW THAT SHE NEEDS THEM TO WIN. SHE IS DOING WHAT HER HUSBAND DID IN HIS RACE WHEN HE NEEDED RULES OVERTURNED FOR HIM AND GOT THEM OVERRULED, BUT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN FOR THEM IN THE YEAR OF 2008. WE WANT CHANGE BUT NOT THIS KIND. OBAMA IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE VOTES NOT COUNTING ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE!! PUT THINGS IN THE RIGHT PROSPECTIVE!!

NO MORE DIRTY POLITICING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Debby   April 28th, 2008 3:27 pm ET

This is a double edge sword if she quits and he is the nominee can he beat McCain in the general. I think everyone is caught up in Obama's charisma vs. reality and includes Pelosi and Dean.

Rob Winnipeg Canada   April 28th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

Everyone was aware of the rules and agreed to them. Hillary needs to quit trying to spin her way to the nomination America is getting dizzy. Without a major distaster by her opponent it's technically done and for the betterment of the Democrats she needs to accept the results.

Helene   April 28th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

"Obama win 08". You are quite right on the math. Thanks for pointing this obvious fact.

Jack Walden   April 28th, 2008 3:26 pm ET

"she feels the prolonged race has been good for both the party and voters"

Yes and based on her logic prolonged war in Iraq is good for American soldiers in keeping them fit and battle ready!

Everyone knows that Americans dont like anything that is prolonged. Be it war or elections. Polls show that, people know that-the devious Clintons notwithstanding.

Susan MO   April 28th, 2008 3:25 pm ET

Hillary should not drop out.

She is the more experienced, for the people, and a fighter.

Obama is showing that he is not experienced enough to be president.
And we still think about his rude remarks to the good people of Pennsylvania.

Hillary Clinton 08 :)

Please End This!   April 28th, 2008 3:25 pm ET

Once again, she is the only one who believes this is "good" for the party. Then she claims that she is in touch with the American people and what they want. She has gone to the George Bush school of politics, keep repeating something long enough and eventually everyone will take it as truth. The sad part about this is that it does seem to work. Wake up, people, please......

AZM   April 28th, 2008 3:24 pm ET

Obama should do the honorable thing and bow out...
He's just tearing the party to pieces... it's sick.

He can't win the general, he can't debate, he can't even speak well without a speech writter... he will get destroyed on the general!

JC   April 28th, 2008 3:24 pm ET

We don't need the far left policies Obama would bring to the White House or another lying Clinton. McCain is not the GWB 2.0 some would show him as. Just because Bush who hardly acted like a real conservative was a poor president does not mean McCain would be.

Helene   April 28th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

She SPINS it again. How long is she going to drag on and on and on, until the democratic party fails in November !
She has LOST the popular vote, the number of delegates and the number of states. What else matters at this point ? Her huge EGO and her unlimited gall ...

Dan in CO   April 28th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

Chalk up another Senator and Superdelgate for Obama today!

And he's from New Mexico...a state that Hillary won (by a tiny fraction)...that should get the Clintonites to bare their fangs!

joyce   April 28th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

john smith
back up here
hillary is the bird brain not barack, don't saw the both of them

andrea benini   April 28th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

All votes must count.

Jim, Indiana   April 28th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

Florida and Michigan have got to stand up for their rights! Hillary has retaken the lead as we can see in all of the polls this week. We already know she is stronger in all the key states for the November election. So what are we waiting for and what are the superdelegates waiting for!!!???

gary   April 28th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

YOU CLINTON HATERS AND O.B. SUPPORTERS MAKE ME SICK. YOUR JUST AS WARPED AS YOUR CANIDATE. WHY DONT YOU JUST SAY FLA. AND MICH. ARE NOT PART OF THE U.S.A. WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF . HE TOOK HIS NAME OFF THE BALLOT. THATS HIS BIG MISTAKE NOT HRC. HE WAS AFRAID HE WASNT KNOWN GOOD ENOUGH. THAN WHY AND THE HELL DID HE EVEN START THIS RACE? HE IS THE ONE ALONG WITH THE DNC BLOKING THE VOTES FROM FLA. AND MICH. DONT GIVE ME THE CRAP THAT HE WANTS WHAT EVER THEY DECIDE.O.B. IS THE MOST CROOKED POLITICIAN AND THIS RACE. HE SURE IS THE WORST LIER , HYPOCRITICAL, RACIST AND SMOOTHEST CON MAN. THIS COUNTRY SURE ISNT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER WITH YOUNG O.B. SUPPORTERS VOTING FOR GLAMOUR. HE IS THE WORST CHOICE FOR A LEADER. GO HRC.

The Democratic Party is Finished....   April 28th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

Who and/or what is more dishonest, more divisive, more disgusting and more despicable than the current administration and the GOP? The Clintons .......... The Democratic Party is finished. Good Riddance.

Hillary 08   April 28th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

Mi & FL will count in the GE.
Clinton – With MI & FL: 15.016.012 w/o 13.830.653
BHO – With MI & FL: 14.904.466 w/o 14.335.425

It seems clear who the winner is. HILLARY CLINTON!!

Falsis in unum, falsis in omnibus   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

CNN, am I on some sort of banned list that you don't OK my stuff?

Let's try this.....

Yes, I can see Hillary ceding to Obama after she 'wins' Indiana, he beats her in NC, etc, etc....

I can also see all sorts of other things happening once I've walked through the poppy fields.

Is this post OK?

Obama '08

Bernard   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

Dean has shown me he doesnt worth the waffle that Obama has thrown away. He is weak and vacilating.

fay   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

Howard Dean should resign from his position as leader of the DNC.
I want all those Florida and Michigan votes counted – and if they were Hillary would have them! She won the votes she deserves to have them counted. the DNC denied the voters of Florida and Michigan – the right to HAVE THEIR VOTES COUNTED! Shame on them. They are all attempting to PUSH, SHOVE, Senator Clinton out of the way! Keep going Senator Clinton, you are going to win! You've been tested – I watched you go to the "hill" on health care and get really beat up! You deserve to win because you are the stronger candidate to beat Senator McCain!

joyce   April 28th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

CONCERNED DEM
get over this s-
the votes do not count and hill agreed to it cause she though she would be pre. by 2-5-08
did not happen so now she is whinning
she will get over it and it takes 48 more states to win flo-mich- is not the decider they are republican states is why she is so angry now she is republican

thinking   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

The messages in the board are seriously biased. Probably it is due to the selection process which is biased, and behind it probably are just a few persons with their own bias.

Should media be biased ? That is something that really makes people sick.

Jerry from Oregon   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

she did answer Dean. No, she won't drop out.

There's no reason Obama should, he'll be ahead in pledged delegates and the popular vote by the end of the primaries.

Clinton answered Dean by saying that Florida and Michigan need to be resolved first. Florida and Michigan won't be resolved so she won't drop out.

I think it's overdue for Dean to finally show some leadership and say, "OK we'll seat Florida and Michigan's delegates at the convention, 50% go to Obama, 50% go to Clinton; that's it, no debates"

Those states can't correct the problem on their own, so let the party chairman decide. let's move on Hillary

Sherry   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

Democrats have a way of shooting themselves in the foot and every time they take a step forward in gaining popularity and voter support, they take two steps back and do something stupid to give Republicans the upper hand.

Calling for the resignation of one democratic candidate by June will send media attention away from the exciting Obama/Hillary race straight to the front door of the GOP. While the media has been exaggerating, spinning and beating the Obama Hillary relationship to death, the media attention has created excitement about the Democratic party, converted many Republicans and Independents into Democrats and finaly shined a spotlight on two highly qualified and exciting democratic candidates. Notice, that until now, McCain hasn't had much of anything to say and has largely been dismissed as the unexciting Republican candidate.

With one democratic candidate out of the race, the election will suddenly turn into a McCan vs Obama or a McCain vs. Clinton race, and give 50% more media attention to the Republican candidate.
Together Obama & Hillary are hard to beat, they are interesting as a team, and they are interesting when they appear to bicker, but alone each candidate will be vulnerable to whatever scandal the Republicans are cooking up to hit the media just in time for the national election.

Scandal? The GOP could not produce a more generic, unexciting candidate than McCain, so how are they to win the election in November? My money is on a big scandal to rock the country just in time for the election and they're just waiting to see if the attack will be on Hillary or Barak. So as soon as one of the democrats drops out of the race, the GOP will start to gain momentum.

I for one am not ready to dismiss Hillary. Despite the fact that she is not allowed to count the Florida & Michigan delegates, she did pull out a huge win in PA and OH and is on track to win more. The race is too close to give up now, and anyone who is willing to suggest that now is a great time to lose a candidate has no sense of logic at all. Candidates drop out when they cannot gather any support, not when the race is so close.

Jay   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

Drop Out Obama..GO AWAY

John W., Milwaukee, WI   April 28th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

Venus: "If Hillary was so great – why is she behind a rookie like Obama?"

That's a very easy one... because at every opportunity, both Senator Obama and his Britany Spear like supporters have religiously played the RACE CARD!

It is hard for some white people in America too, to be ctitical of a person in a different race, when we know that we are immediately going to be call a racist and have our motivations questioned all the time.

With 93%+ of the black vote consistently going for Senator Obama, I wonder what you think is going on here...

Michele Hunter   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Dean,
Give it a rest.....Let Hillary and Obama run the race. If everyone would not jump in. You're doing a dis-service to the American voters !

Let Obama hang himself I say..................Rev. Wright will see to that.

Kay-Arizona   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

In the interview with Howard Dean Sunday, on meet the press he said:

"Here's why the rules are important. For the–this year, for the first time, we balanced the early primaries with ethnic and geographic diversity. We included a state from the South and a state from the West, because we think we can win there now. And we included states with significant numbers of minority groups who the Democrats can't win without, and those folks ought to be allowed to say early on who they think should be the president"

This is a direct quote and represents the reasoning of the DNC. Soo
should we really not count the votes from the rest of the state?

james bowles   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Howard Dean has no credibility and should resign his post!

james
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James Lucas Clemmons NC   April 28th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

It really does not matter which one drops out. ... unless they run on the same ticket. ... get use to saying President McCain.

Mike   April 28th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

As a democrats, we need to look at the big picture and keep Nov. 08 in mind.

Only Hillary can beat McCain. This is the fact.

Shawn   April 28th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

She won't be satisfied until she destroys Obamas chances in the general election. She has already done that. When he loses in the general election she will be quick to declare she should have been the nominee. He will be given the nomination and she and her adulterer husband will all but disappear until 2012. If anyone thinks they are going to campaign on Obamas' behalf, you don't know the Clinton's.

Dan in CO   April 28th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

I support a McCain victory if Obama is denied of the nomination, not because I'd be bitter, but because any Democrat who would support the Clintons deserves to have a Republican in the White House.

Operation Chaos   April 28th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

trellskig

We are voting for Obama? Did you see the cross over polls from PA.
We will kill Obama in the general... that's why we want him!

McCain 08

Hillary Supporters - Get Educated   April 28th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Obama is and has not blocked a revote in Michigan or Florida. He has specifically stated he will follow whatever the DNC decides to do with the states. He doesn't have the power politically to block a revote.

However, the Clintons have said they will only accept the results as is. They have blocked a revote several times now, claiming that the initial results must be ensued.

Hillary Clinton is just as responsible as the DNC for not making it happen.

Robert NYC & Miami   April 28th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

I agree with Hillary.

Hillary 2008

masgap   April 28th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Like I said before why can't Obama allow the people to decide?

The money situation is not a problem but Obama resisted it. To me

he is just another politician. I say Michican and Florida should revote

It can be done is Obama is willing but he isn't That leadership???

The divider   April 28th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

The super delegates are making a huge mistake by allowing this race to go this long...
Hillary has no chance of winning the nomination but if this race continued for a longer period then the democrats will loose big in November. Not only the presidency, but also congress and senate.
Obama has the lead and he only needs few hundred vote to secure the nomination

GoHillary   April 28th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

How funny that the OMAMABOTS complain about Hillary not wanting to follow the rules while claiming to believe in CHANGE.

Wake up people nobody ever brought about change by following the rules.

Her first order of business as PRESIDENT will be to sack NANCY.

Lonnie H.   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

This is beyond funny because why does Hillary Clinton believe so strongly that she will even win Michigan or Florida? Florida I can see, but she was the only candidate with her name on the ballot in Michigan, and after all that has happened, why is she banking on those two states to push her over the top? It would be most funny if they held both primaries again and she lost both of them! How insulting would that be to her campaign?

Lonnie H.- Toledo, OH.

Open Your Eyes   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

For all of you that think Hilliary is the next in line for the Presidency; think again............because of her the Democratic Party is definitely split along Racial lines and no matter what the Pundits say, she won't be able to get us back. We will not only stay home.......we will vote "McCain"................at least he's believeable. In a time when we all tried to get along better.................she has dragged those sentiments back up.................and look where we are now!!!!!!!!!!

Obama win '08   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Hillary wants Michigan and Florida, let her have them. Obviously math was not her strongest subject. The way I have calculated it, if Hillary gets 55% and Obama gets 45% of the delegates from both he will not need any more votes from superdelegates. Even with the 45% from FL and MI, once the nine remaining states are completed then Obama would end up with 2054 pledged and superdelegates.

As of today he has 1724 delegates.
He will receive at least the following:
1 – Guam
33 – Indiana (this is a split)
55 – North Carolina (b/c he is going to blow her out the water by 20%)
12 – West Virginia (gives her a 55-45 win)
21 – Kentucky(gives her a 55-45 win)
26 – Oregon (gives him a 55-45 win)
25 – Puerto Rico (gives her a 55-45 win)
8 – Montana (gives him a 55-45 win)
8 – South Dakota (gives him a 55-45 win)
Total of 1913 delegates

Even if you Add in (giving her 55% and him 45% for both:
83 – Florida
58 – Michigan

It then gives him 2054 delegates and the 2008 Democratic Nomination.

Unlike Hillary, I do like Math.

Sorry Billary Supporters (SHE CANNOT WIN)

Shek   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

whats she talking about? she did not abide by the rules and was cunning enough to put her name on the ballot. who do u think is more reliable? a person who plays by the rules of the game or the one who cheats? LIAR BH(Bill & Hillary)

Mike   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Don't worry Hillary, Howard Dean is going to make sure that no African-American leads the Democratic ticket.

Obama, you will have a lot in common with Al Gore after this primary season is over.

Howard Dean should be on the Hillary ticket. That way the ticket can represent a liar and a thief.

Cammi317   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Hopefully she'll run out of money by next week....

Count Michigan is a Joke   April 28th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Clinton supporters want the votes to be counted in Michigan, and they claim they're doing it 'for the people'.

But you'll only accept the results as is, and because Obama took his name off the ballot (Like the DNC told every candidate to do), the offical totals are 328,000 for Hillary, 0 for him.

Are you telling me you will accept that no one voted for him and still CLAIM TO BE COUNTING ALL THE VOTES? That's hyprocrisy!

And I loved the comments that it's Obama's fault that he removed his name and should be punished for it. Michigan and Florida messed up too, but they're exempt just because they went for Hillary?

Florida is one thing, but asking to seat Michigan as is is a joke and simply will not happen.

Unity '08

David E. Francis   April 28th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Dean and the DNC are right to exclude the Michigan and Florida votes. Both Hillary and Barack agreed not to include the results of MI and FL at the beginning of primaries and caucuses. True, Dems need MI and FL to win the White House in Nov. Now that Hillary is losing, she wants to change the rules. If you can't trust her to follow the rules during the primaries, can you trust her should she win the nomination and White House? I think not. (I live and vote in MI.) The only way I see Hillary getting the nomination is by some form of 'back-room deal' with the superdelegates. I get the impression that she's trying to steal the nomination away from Obama.

Also, Barack's and John's, (Edwards), names were not on the ballot here in MI. Which is another reason not to include MI's vote-it's not fair to Barack and John. They played by the rules. I have heard quite a few people I know who voted for Hillary in the primary who wanted another primary so that they could vote for Obama. (The other choice was "Uncommited".) Another primary is not going to happen-the state legislature killed that issue. I have also heard a few of my Dem friends say that they are going to vote for McCain because of all the negative campaigning going on within the Dem Party. (And, some independents feel that way too!)

Alex   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

This is a good topic,
She is not trying to steal a election.....she actually did win Florida and Michigan Primaries.....they just were not counted...by dumb rules....
but they will sort this out by june....they have too!! too many delegates at stake between both states for both Hillary and Obama!!!
Why is everyone making her out to be some evil person.......maybe it is just fear...and truth in all of this.... I like Mr.Obama he is a nice guy and intelligent person and likable....but he is not ready for President just yet.....he will be.... but I think Hillary will win this thing by Augest in Denver..... it will be a dogfight no doubt....but she wins this thing....James Carville is right on the money with this one..!!!!!
Go HILLARY.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeremy   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

According to Hillary and her supporters, the entire primary process is less meaningful than a Miss America contest.
It kills me that she is allowed to speak of disenfranchisement when the only chance she has in this election is to overturn the will of the people. I find her repulsive.

carl from Houston   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Hillary didn't win in Texas, Obama did she is a real joke, count the texas delagates. If she steals this I will vote McCain for sure. She have went white gettho.

Obama win '08   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Hillary wants Michigan and Florida, let her have them. Obviously math was not her strongest subject. The way I have calculated it, if Hillary gets 55% and Obama gets 45% of the delegates from both he will not need any more votes from superdelegates. Even with the 45% from FL and MI, once the nine remaining states are completed then Obama would end up with 2054 pledged and superdelegates.

As of today he has 1724 delegates.
He will receive at least the following:
1 – Guam
33 – Indiana (this is a split)
55 – North Carolina (b/c he is going to blow her out the water by 20%)
12 – West Virginia (gives her a 55-45 win)
21 – Kentucky(gives her a 55-45 win)
26 – Oregon (gives him a 55-45 win)
25 – Puerto Rico (gives her a 55-45 win)
8 – Montana (gives him a 55-45 win)
8 – South Dakota (gives him a 55-45 win)
Total of 1913 delegates

Even in you Add in (giving her 55% and him 45% for both:
83 – Florida
58 – Michigan

It then gives him 2054 delegates and the 2008 Democratic Nomination.

Unlike Hillary, I do like Math.

Sorry Hillary Supporter (SHE CANNOT WIN)

trellskig   April 28th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Of course she will win every primary to come if she has all the (evil) republican switcers on her side.

SHAME ON YOU REPUBLICAN SWITCHERS SCREWING UP THE DEM. PARTY.

The sad thing is, Hillary is taking the bait...so sad!

Niel, NY   April 28th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

One thing is for sure.....

Florida and Michigan will not go to Dems way this election.

Thanks to Dean for that.

Why don't Dean declare his super-delegate vote? If he is insisting other super-delegate frys to reveal it why does not he walk the talk?
O' Yeeeeahhh

Dave   April 28th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Kermit – now that's a REAL green candidate!!!!

Lonnie H.   April 28th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

This is beyond funny because why does Hillary Clinton believe so strongly that she will even win Michigan or Florida? Florida I can see, but she was the only candidate with her name on the ballot in Michigan, and after all that has happened, why is she banking on those two states to push her over the top? It would

Debra, MO   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

I hope all of you women supporters of Hillary teach your daughters how to lie, cheat and steal because you are just like her. You are a scary group of people that Obama does not need in November. I would never want my children anywhere near you or your families.

Gary in VA   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

I didn't know that retardation was a requirement of being a United States citizen. Rules are rules what happen to American law. If you agree to something why would you change the rules if your at a disadvantage. The Clintons are sickening me. I once like Bill Clinton now I think him and his wife are crazy.

Rick from NJ   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Senator Clinton is the Best and Strongest Candidate to Win the Democratic Primary.
She is going to fight for Americans.
President Clinton is a bonus also.
He balanced our budget, kept us safe and America was loved throughout the world when he was in office.
He loves all Americans and was considered the "black president" because of his love for African Americans. His office could have been overlooking Central Park on 5th Avenue but instead, he decided to open his office in Harlem to bring abundance to the area.

Wake up Americans. Senator Clinton will win, stand up for her and President Clnton.

suzy   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

We've always had HOPE -
what we need is HELP!

HELP = HILLARY!!!!!!!

This race is not over yet....

To NOT count Florida and Michigan is only going to make LOTS of people angrier than they already are, which is a problem to the election in NOV, especially if the nominee is Obama. I don't care what happened or what was agreed upon over a year ago – things have changed quite a bit, and with this election so tight and critical, the ONLY solution is to count these two states after all other primaries are done, and then we will see who the winner is....
and if you think that Obama is NOT using this Fl/MI debacle to his advantage, then you are sadly mistaken. He is playing politics just like the "old politicians".....
So, who is stealing from who???????

Janel, St. Paul, MN   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

You've got to hand it to Hillary. She is one stubborn woman!

Frankly, should she somehow manipulate a win of the nomination, I don't know how she will be able to convince all the Obama supporters to respect, not mention to like, her after all the dirty attacks she and her husband have made on Obama.

But. . .I guess she simply feels she is entitled to be the next president because of her eight years in the White House. What a joke she is!

Venus   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Great job Dean!

Good move! This gets Hillary busy and off the debate subject!

It was Howard Dean that cancelled the North Carolina debate and not Obama!

This is his way of throwing Hillary off track and help her negative-ratings go up!

This is also Dean's way of letting the Dem-Party see how and why our party don't want her back!

Go Obama!

Jamal Kansas   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Cliton Dean has spoken Fl, Mich violated the DNC's rules that you agreed on that people in your campaign had there delagates stripped now that Barack is winning you want them to count. Hillary you are sad you are one of the worst women on this planet and you suppose to be the womens champion ha ha ha Hillary You are a Liar your time is up

iddrisu see   April 28th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Is about time you stop mentioning florida and michigan to be count loser,that is how losers do.I wonder if somebody either then you sign the agrement that this two state will not be seated.Loser stop trying to make this stupid arguement.

Dan in CO   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

""Come on BO – why are you so AFFRAID to debate Hillary. She's not a monster, I'm quite sure she won't eat you.""

So why didn't she debate Jon Tasini in 2006?

hrp   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

I agree that the next few states should be played out. I don't agree that MI & FL should be part of the equation. Clinton should have stuck to the rules she agreed to.

Logical   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

Hillary CANNOT catch up. IT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

This is where respectable people such as Mit Romney and others drop out of the race for the good of the party...

Americans, remember when we couldn't even IMPEACH President Clinton out of the White House, even though he shamed our country world-wide?

Well, in case you Hillary supporters haven't noticed, this has never been about us, the people, this is about the Clinton's and their legacy in the history books.

GO OBAMA!

CNN PLEASE POST MY COMMENT!!!!!

Dave   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

The choices as I see them, in order of palatability and / or chance of getting elected:
1) Clinton
2) McCain
3) Gore
4) Edwards
5) Kucinich
...and so on
...and so on
...and so on
1000)Kermit the Frog
1001) Obama
At least "Barry's" in their somewhere, right? (Should his middle name be shortened to "Hussy"?)
More than enough said!!

George   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

Barack Obama WILL loose to John McCain, reason, two states, Michigan and Florida, and who knows, perhaps Ohio and Pennsylvania too.
Say what you will, but it has been Obama who has not accepted any solution, be it the current results, re-vote or anything.

Obama   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

Obama should drop – he does not stand a chance agains beating McCain in the general election. He will bring a loss to the democratic party.

mitch from ark.   April 28th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

hillary's wrecking the democrats' chances ,in the fall,and blaming obama,for following the rules.how dumb.

Dan in CO   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Resolving Michigan and Florida satisfactorily and resolving them to Hillary's satisfaction are two different things.

Rick from NJ   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Senator Clinton is the Best and Strongest Candidate to Win the Democratic Primary.
She is going to fight for Americans.
President Clinton is a bonus also.
He balanced our budget, kept us safe and America was loved throughout the world when he was in office.
He loves all Americans and was considered the "black president" because of his love for African Americans. His office could have been overlooking Central Park on 5th Avenue but instead, he decided to open his office in Harlem to bring abundance to the area.

Wake up Americans. Senator Clinton will win, stand up for her and President Clnton.

Niel, NY   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

What I do not understand is that why people are not seeing this:

HILLARY AGREED TO NOT TO INCLUDE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA WHEN PRIMARY STARTED.
She voted for War too.
Perhaps she forgets what she promises. Bill was right on. At this age, these things happen.

I used to be Hillary's support but now I will follow ABC (Anybody But Clintons) of politics.

ABC '08.

John San Francisco   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

I was a big fan and support of Bill and Hillary. I have know begun a loathing for the Clinton's. They have validated all charges comming from the Republican Party. Hillary will never be President of the United States.

She can not and will not be supported by American's who know how the Clinton's have used lies and race, not the issues to win votes from White America. It was African American's who came to the defense of the Clinton's during some of thier roughes days in the White House.

Now that the Clinton's have been able to distract the good people of this country by playing to thier biasis and fears, they now start talking about the issues. Iwould have voted for Hillary if she had done this from the start and continued to do this through out the campayne. I causion the political pundits, African American politicians, media voices, and the African American community will not allow this irreshensable distortion of themselves or someone who represents the community. It is sad to see the level of denial of hite America. It is sad to see the level of denial from Black America. For the Bloggers, they truly see the world through thier own eyes and belifes. Hillary could have represented so much more, e=ven more than what Barak offered. Yes she has the experience, but what she has shown more than anything in this race, she has no integrity, nor does Bill. I wonder did we turn our heads to all the bad things Bill had done because we as a country was benifiting from his position as President. Yes we turnned our head, and now a 360 degree turn shows us that the Clintons are who they are. "Curupted by Power"

"Go Hillary 2008" if you can win without the African American Vote

Marine   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Al this continued bickering. As Ralph Crandon used to say

"HOW SWEET IT IS"

ShannonL   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

They will have to count FLA and Mich in order to give Clinton the nomination. Wright won't shut up and he is dragging Obama down. New polls show Clinton ahead in Ind. Obama can't win core Dems.

Dean is a joke. Who put that moron in charge?

OBAMA WON THE DEM NOMIATION   April 28th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

RACE IS TECHNICALLY OVER.

THE RULES ARE SPECIFIC. IT IS A DELEGATE RACE.

HILLARY CAN'T CACTH UP. IT IS OVER.

MSM STOP GIVING FALSE HOPES. IT 'LL MAKE IT HARDER FOR DEMS TO RECONCILE

OBAMA 08

HillarySkank on myspace   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Hillary has lost the primary. If the democratic party somehow allows her to steal the election I will no longer be a democrat and will vote anything but the democrat party for ALL elections for the rest of my life.
This is pure BS. She can't win fair and square so she chages the rules. I would vote Bush for a 3rd term before ever considering to vote for Hillary Rotten Clinton!

And if any Clinton supporters have a problem with that until you have served in the military as I have, I could care less what you have to say. If you HAVE served in the military, then I salute you but disagree with you.

dlr   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

She is so self absorbed and lies so much, how can we want her to be President of the United States.

Electing her, is like asking George Bush to stay on for a 3rd term.

Mike from Westchester   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Did not the DNC insiders, "rules and bylaws committee", exclude FL and MI. Who was tighter with and had more influence over the DNC insiders, Hillary or Barack?

Who said of Michigan, when she did not pull her name off the ballot that it did not matter that she left her name on (in violation of the agreement), because "everyone know this is not going to count for anything"?

Who is now screaming about disenfranchisement, when her end game is to disenfranchise the entire democratic electorate by stealing the nomination at the convention?

They can split all the FL and MI delegates evenly if they want then to participate. That way the states that were not going to be allowed to impact the result will not impact the result, but they can still be at the convention.

No more debates. No using tainted results from FL and MI. If you can win, then win, if you can't.....

Joojo   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

I just love HRC. This is a candidate worth supporting. Very strong and able to take punches. Just examine how the media has beaten her up. This is a true leader. And to Mary who posted earlier, too bad she makes you sick but she just wont go away!

Lilly   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Hillary, your Bi-Polar is showing again !

stacy   April 28th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

I think she is absolutely correct in this, this is not Howard Dean's decision to make, let it go to the convention and see the will of the
people.

Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

Florida and Michigan,

If you are really looking for someone to take the fall for how your votes were mishandled, why don't you start looking at your governors and legislatures instead of Barack? By that same token, Hillary is not the people's champion that she makes herself out to be as she agreed to the same rules that Barack did. The only difference is that she has more experience with the politics behind all of this and left her name on the ballots while Barack was going by the spirit of the rules and not just the wording when he removed his name an did not campaign.

In the future, I agree that this should all be handled differently but it is what it is right now and we all have to deal with it.

Texan   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

It's funny to hear Clinton say "Should we punish Michigan and Florida" when she was in agreement of punishing them for holding an early primary in the beginning. She only stands for what's good for her at the moment.

GoHillary   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

Come on BO – why are you so AFFRAID to debate Hillary. She's not a monster, I'm quite sure she won't eat you.

Maybe you could use some of your hard earned cash to buy the answers beforehand.

Tom C   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

Do you think if the shoe was on the other foot and Hillary was leading that she would have the same opinion about Florida and Michigan? The answer is absolutly not. Many voters did not vote in those states because they knew the votes would not count.

Obama does not need the 22nd debate, HIllary does. Why debate with a mudslinging, distort the facts, kitchen sink throwing, let's nuke em, I will do anything to win, Hillary.

The only reason she is in the race is because of Limbaugh and others urging their republican friends to switch parties and vote for Hillary to drag the race out and they know Hillary is easier to beat. Many of these votes she is attaining will be gone in the general election.

Concerned Democrat   April 28th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

I don't understand why Hillary supporters want to steal an election from the obvious winner?

We know what happened the last time an election was stolen!!!

It's no way she will be ahead in popular vote or delagates come June.

Numbers don't lie but desperate politicians do!!

Obama 08

Jesse   April 28th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

How about a joint Ticket with whoever has more delegates and popular votes stays on top?

Sam in VA   April 28th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

The race isn't over til it's over. At this point it's too close to call. The Dems need to change their primary rules. It's up to the super deligates now. Obama loses ground daily as people across this country get to know him. The more I listen to him studder and stammer I realize just green he is behind the ears. He needs more experience. By 2016 he will have it! May the best woman win.

Hillary   April 28th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Check pollster dot com
Obama is a much better candidate against McCain....

Cindy   April 28th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Obama, if you become the nominee and "they" make you pick Billary as a vp...get a food taster!!

Whatever   April 28th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Thing I wanto to know is who the heck came up with these rules, the same folks who came up with those hairbrained caucuses? Talk about a none procedure. They're more like a squaredance than an election. And don't forget John Dean and his famous hog hollar sound bite! He had the nomination practically in the bag and lost it in the time it takes to say "Hee-Haw!"

Mary   April 28th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Hillary needs to Drop out NOW !!

Less experience than Obama, that's been proven !

More lies than anyone, that's been proven !

Ran her campaign into the red, that's been proven !

Has divided the party, that's been proven !

Will distroy this country!

crispulo   April 28th, 2008 2:58 pm ET

There is no way that Hillary can overcome Obama in either popular nor delegate votes. She should just get out of the race before it is too late.
Hillary's goal is just her ego, not the ideals to unite the country nor to make the radical changes that our country need urgently. Obama has a more honest and sincere focus of politics.
Additionally, he has a cross cultural heritage that can be very fruitful to heal the negative impact that Bush has left around the world. He will have the ability to create dialogue with those nations that hate us so deeply ,particularly in the Middle East ,and find the common ground to search for understanding and world peace. Long live OBAMA...!

Anna G.   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Los Angeles, CA.

Hillary is the best candiate. She will win in November .

Hillary, 2008!

Peter in Canada   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

What a piece of work Hillary is! She is absolutely the most manipulative and disengenuous person I have seen in a long long time.
1. The DNC did decide to punish Michigan and Florida and YOU AGREED! That happened before the primaries!
2. There are NO ACCEPTABLE ways to resolve the problem. You have absolutely ensured that through your actions. The only acceptable resolution will still involve Obama having to be injured by your actions and having a strong enough lead in pledged delegates to basically GIVE YOU Michigan and Florida and still be ahead.

I don't know the full legal recourse that the Obama campaign and his supporters and he himself have if this lunacy of MI and FL continues but I am sure there must be one! His supporters have dumped $200 million into a process that would have to be changed after the fact! This is FRAUD in my country!

Yes We Can   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Hillary made a decision about Florida and Michigan when she signed the agreement. But just like anything else with Hillary, the signature wasn't worth the paper it was written on. Her marriage is a lie, and so is her candidacy.

Barack 08

Cindy Ryan   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

I am a republican who is planning to vote for Obama. If Hillary wins (or steals) the nomination, no doubt about it, I'm voting for McCain. If Hillary's the vp, I'm voting for McCain. That woman believes she owns the presidency and is pissed that Obama dared to aspire to it. She is evil and so is Bill. Obama, start fighting back on her terms, if she can't stand up to you, how can she stand up to all the other male country leaders???Like she said, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! Don't let her make you look like a wuss. She's got so much history that the public is not hearing about, but she's making sure they're hearing about yours. People wake up...you don't want BILLARY for president!!!

Greg   April 28th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Hillary, in effect said "yes someone should drop out as long as it is not me." and yes Hillary, we must punish Michigan and Florida. That happens in the real world. If you do not play by the rules then you get punished. Otherwise why have rules. Can you imagine, a country who's laws are "Do what ever you want, there are no consequences for your actions".

Maxine   April 28th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Hillary Clinton, by rook or crook she will be the nomination....she already has her lawyers figuring out how to over rule certain things like MI/FL......yeah that's what I want a liar, cheater, conartist in office, go GW whoops I mean HC.

Donna   April 28th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Hillary is not the best candidate. She lies and is very dishonest. Her smile along is an indicator that something sneaky is waiting to happen. When she's in the white house busy trying to do her job, Bill will be busy doing his job again with another intern. She will in turn go on a rampage and mess up the entire country.

Vote OBAMA 08

Independent   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Worst/best picture of Howard Dean EVER! He looks like a bobblehead that got stuck or something.

al in memphis   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

The argument for FLA and MICH would have had more credibility with me if it was done at the time these states were making the decision to move the date. Why did we not here this out cry from the media and voters in FLA and MICH when it was being considered.

Here's a new reality show - Adult voters try to explain to 5-year old why they support their canidate.. Mommy, mommy this canidate will not tell us the truth or 100 negative things to say to become president.

Pamela, Sacramento   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

This is a bunch of crapola. HRC is not electable. By the time the republicans get done with her, everyone will truly see her for what she is. PLEASEEEEEEEE! The republicans will roundup all the closed door dirt, which includes her hidden lobbyists deals and they will be merciless with their attack ads. Then all of you naive HRC supporters will be having side bars saying, "We didn't know!"

OBAMA 08!!

Barack/08   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Dear Hillary/0-Never,

We Obama supporters care about fairness and the rules. I would love for Florida and Michigan to vote, had the voting been fair. Since it was NOT, they have to take it up with their elected officials. You forget your candidate can not win without Barack's supporters, so dream on.

Valeria   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

This is America, you have to count each and every vote. Florida votes should count as is and we should re-vote in Mich. There were people willing to pay for the re-vote it wasn't going to cost the states any extra funds.

How can either canidate declare victory win you leave out two large States? You can not correctly state who had the most votes. There is no way Obama will be able to beat McCain. We don't trust him and we don't know enought about him. The more we hear more we fear!

Hillary will fight for us and knows how to make CHANGE happen, not just preach about it. If you want CHANGE from BUSH you have to vote for Hillary.

Valeria from Kentucky

Kansas Veteran   April 28th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

The Democratic rules require the DNC to aceppt the deligates from states that hold their elections to early, what the rules do however is cut the number of delegates in half.

So if you are going to play by the rules, the elections count as ran and the number of delegates awarded to the canidates stand, itsa only that half the delegates are counted.

Robert in Toronto,ON   April 28th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

This is ridiculous. SHE DIDN'T WANT THE FLORIDAN OR MICHIGAN VOTES TO COUNT WHEN SHE DIDN"T THINK SHE'D NEED THEM.

And I don't understand why or how anybody in Michigan OR Florida can fall for her redderick! This woman would stomp on your head if she thought it would help her reach the Presidential platform.

She cares NOTHING about the voters there. NOTHING. Or anywhere across America! And the fact that her and her supporters think different boggles the mind. Hillary Clinton is what's WRONG with America – not what's right.

When we look across the pond and we see what has gotten you guys into so much trouble – it's your elected officials that you put there who care more about playing the political games for their own personal or party gains. How is anything going to change if you keep playing games? Your world reputation is at stake...your son's and daughters lives are in peril!

Do you really believe...for one second....that Hillary Clinton will lead you in a different direction? She's not gonna steer America the same direction as George Bush, but it won't be much better I can promise you that!

Venus   April 28th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

This race has been over for some time and Dean is sick of the Clintons.

If Hillary was so great – why is she behind a rookie like Obama?

How can Hillary beat Mc Cain if she can't beat Obama?

Dean is the one that cancelled the NC-debate by the way!

We are not going to the convention this year and that's all there is to it!

They see what Hillary is doing by changing the rules and games every day! I bet if Obama was behind she wouldn't be worried about FL and MI votes nor about wanting another debate!

I will be glad when she leaves! I am looking forward to seeing how she re-acts to getting off the stage!

Ken   April 28th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

I can't stand Hillary Clinton and really want to see Obama win but I would rather have a democrat in the white house and will vote accordingly in November. Everyone needs to be smart and once this primary is over get behind whichever Democrat has the nomination.

A Gulf War Veteran   April 28th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Hillary, how do you spell relief? O P P O R T U N I S T

Jen   April 28th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

LMAO @ the Obama idiot who said polls don't matter... of course they do, they're the most reliable predictor of who can win against McCain (and that's Hillary Clinton :D ). Your personal opinions of the candidates is nothing.

Hillary Clinton '08

Len in Washington   April 28th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

to: "Chipster"
How many voters in Michigan and Florida stayed home and did not vote because they knew the votes wouldn't be counted. There have been hundreds of comments from these people in these blogs for months to that very point.
I've also heard people talk about how "this is a Democracy-our votes should be counted." Neither the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party Primaries are "Democratic." They are votes for a private organization position. We shouldn't confuse them with public votes about public offices.

Perhaps it goes to the phrase "educated voters." Or in this case it might be the "un"-educated voters who are howling at the moon.

I think we'll see decisions made after next Tuesday. Lets all just wait.

Pat   April 28th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

I hope by the 4th of July we have a candidate. That would be nice, Dems.

We'll see.

pat   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

you people are stupid if you think obama can beat mccain in the general, hillary leads mccain 50 to 41 points in the polls obama 45 to 45. he can,t carry the big states mccain polls better in them, an all the red states he won in the primerys he will lose to mccain, so if you want the dem. to win you better, get on the hillary bandwagon, or you,ll be crying in nov. an ill say i told you so lol.

P, KS   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

How does Hillary's heels feel on your back Dean? Get used to it, she doesn't take no too kindly. I think if she can't get the nomination, she'll be camping out on the White House lawn. She's got to get back in that house, so she can steal some more china.

Obama 08

Tim in Canada   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

The fat lady has started singing up here, just waiting for the northwind.

John W., Milwaukee, WI   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

In other words: "GIVE me MINE!"

Yes, Hillary did win both MI & FL; Obama's lawyers did kill any chance of a revote in both states... GIVE Hillary HERS!

In the FINAL ANALYSIS: Superdelegates will obviously pick a winner!
And, the only issue that they really need to address is: WHO IS THE MOST ELECTABLE!

They do NOT have to weigh the POPULAR vote, the current DELEGATE vote or even how other Superdelegates voted up to that point; they all can CHANGE THEIR MIND at ANYTIME!

I would remember that when you folks read about it being MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, etc., as the only issue that the Superdelegates need really deal with is, again, WHO IS THE MOST ELECTABLE!

That is what they are tasked to do!

I'm afraid most of you "educated" Obama supporters are in for a rude reality check in August...

Sam- Chicago   April 28th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

she is right. She is not insisting on anything. My question right now is?

Which if these two candidates can "beat" McCain?. Its more so who can beat McCain, rather than who will win. Either will do well, but only one I think, can actually beat McCain. So let the voters make that choice.

Burt   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Dean you made the rules now live with them. 2025 dels is needed to close the nomantion if no one has it you fight it out at the convention. Its a little late now to change you mind on how you set it up.

jr   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

This whole democratic nominating process went to hell in a hand basket when they decided to appoint Howard Dean as the head of the DNC. Democrats thought they could make him go away by appointing him to that position after his failed run for the presidency but he's come back to haunt them.

If the Democratic party expects to remain viable into the future they first need to completely overhaul their nominating process. And secondly get rid of Howard Dean. Those two steps will go a long way towards making the party look less like a third rate three ring circus, and more like a party serious about winning the presidency.

Key West Sun   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

This story is not about Hillary getting out in June; this is about Hillary telling Dean what he needs to do, she is showing true leadership. How hard is it for Dean to understand that we have got to settle Florida and Michigan now. Listen up Dean this woman is telling you the truth; she knows what the party needs to do to win in the fall. That is one of Obama's greatest failings, he has run a great campaign to get the nomination, better than Hillary, but they have not run one that will carryover to the fall.

Praetorian, Fort Myers   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

What a hoot. Regardless of who gets elected (Hillary, Barack, John) they've still got to deal with the dysfunctional likes of Reid and Pelosi. I say don't worry so much about the President–instead focus on giving our hallowed halls of congress an enema.

Phyllis, KS   April 28th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

How does Hillary heels feel on your back Dean? Get used to it, she doesn't take no too kindly. I think if she can't get the nomination, she'll be camping out on the White House lawn. She's got to get back in that house, so she can steal some more china.

Obama 08

Hillary/08   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Obama-bots I feel your pain. I would not want them to count Florida or Michigan at all, if it meant my candidate could lose the nomination. If they are not factored in, some way, to the satisfaction of all parties, we will lose in November. That is a fact...Rev. Wright has really messed up Obamas chances in November. The few votes Nader will pull will cause us to lose in November if Obama is the nominee....

m,aca   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Go HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama please go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carl Sloan   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

This whole "we have to decide what to do with Michigan and Florida" argument is absurd. We did decide what to do with them - 8 months ago. Remember, Hillary? You yourself agreed to it and said it wouldn't count.

Politics of convenience at its finest.

Mike - WA   April 28th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

I think that they should both drop out and the Democrats should give us anothter option.

Eman   April 28th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

Thank god she continues to run. She's not running for herself, but for people like me, and millions of others, who do not think Obama is ready for President and would love another, better alternative. I like a Presidential candidate who won't give up on a good fight.

Gino   April 28th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

well,we as a party ,condened the florida situation back in 2000,now we are refusing to count Florida,hey guys we will lose again, count the votes

Tell The Truth   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Why is she allowed to destroy the democratic party? FL and MI voters – HEAR ME- she did not care about your votes when she was winning, she agreed to not count your votes. Now she is losing and she is playing this game. I have lost all respect for her. If they steal this nomination from Senator Obama I will not vote for McCain, but I will surely stay home. Gosh!!! we are tired of the Clinton/Bush reigns. HIllary stop it!!!!!

Jacob, OR   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

That sound you hear is Dean trying to grow a spine. A little too late, I'd say. The Clintons are eating him for lunch.

I'm so glad Barack is staying away from the fray.

Obama 08

Farrell, Houston, Tx   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Here we go again, Hillary is saying either you do it my way or the highway. She can't win, she won't win but she will continue to destroy the democrat party. I've had enough of this woman and her tactics that can't be forgiven.

John AZ   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Hillary is not only hurting the democratic party she is doing more damge to our nation than anyone right now! If the democratic leaders think that this is all going to just blow over and everyone is going to live happily ever after they're vision impaired.

we have an opprtunity for the first time in almost a half century to stand as americans and work together for a common good and heal our nation.

this can not and will not happen with hillary – the republicans will tear her apart and attack her every day in the campaign and if she miraculously won, they would attack her everyday she is in office – and the Worst thing is She would attack them back with rage and hatred.

We will take ourselves down and our enemy has to do nothing but watch and laugh as america self destructs!!!

marylee wagerman atlanta,ga   April 28th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

HILLARY DID YOUR MOM NOT TEACH YOU HOW TO FOLLOW THE RULES WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE GIRL IN PENNSYLVANIA SHOOTING DUCKS ?????????????????????????

Voter   April 28th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Hillary agreed to NOT COUNT MI OR FL! If she didnt then they would of counted.

Hillary NEEDS to WIN EVERY STATE by 66%, Does anyone really think that will happon???

Dal   April 28th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Hillary will say the same as long as she wants the presidency. She will also quote that Bill won the nomination at the final count. He went on to become the President. She does not realize that at that time none of the states voted out of line. This time MI and Fl are taken out lets make it fair and give both of you 50%. easy and that way it is a fair division.
One thing for sure is that the fight will go on even if the final nomination goes to OBAMA. Yes Sour grapes will be had at that point as well.
Party will be divided and for sure McCain will become the next President.

Tricia Smith   April 28th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

I think counting votes (either delegates or popular vote) in either Michigan or Florida would be completely disingenuous on the part of the Clinton campaign or the democratic party. That's now how the original rules were established and since Obama's name did not even appear on the Michigan ballot nor did he campaign in Florida a decision to count those votes would be totally unfair. I personally am angered as to how the Clinton campaign has been conducting business. Hillary appears to be a candidate who is only interested in saying or lying or doing whatever it takes to get the nomination. If she does get the nomination you can count on me not voting.!!! Oh – by the way, I am a 67 yr educated white woman voter who has voted all of my adult life for the democratic party.

marylee wagerman atlanta,ga   April 28th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

POLLS , SHMOLLS

SHE WOULD HAVE NO CHANCE AGAINST MCCAIN.

LOOK AT HER NEGATIVES PEOPLE !!!

mary grube   April 28th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Rules are rules Hillary. She agreed with the rules initially, but when you are losing, you decide they aren't fair. Play by the rules!

Marc   April 28th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Why did Obama leave his name on Florida's ballot and not Michigan's? Does anybody know? Does he even know?

That was stupid. He surely cost himself those two states in the GE by blocking the vote (ala George Bush, Supreme Court, etc.) If he's so confident he's the right person for the job, every vote should count! What's wrong with you people?!! Too young to remember 2000?

tomdavie   April 28th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

I love Obama supporters who are now backed into this stupid argument.

clinton is going to STEAL the nomination from Obama.

Obama has a LEAD in delegates. Thats it.

He cant get 2024 delegates. Its simple.

You cant STEAL something from someone when they didnt WIN it in the first place.

If this is the only argument the Obama fans have, he wont be the nominee.

Jan   April 28th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Hillary's popular vote is suspect. My brother in Indiana, a Republican, said he was voting for Hillary in Indiana in order TO DESTROY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I was appalled.

I used to at least respect Hillary. I would have voted for her if the nominee, but no more. If Obama isn't the nominee I will vote for neither, and mourn this nation.

Damen, CA   April 28th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Well what a surprise, the Clintons are divisive, controvercial and proven liars. I'm shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in the house.

Clinton = Drama

Matt, CA   April 28th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

What people don't understand is that, in functional terms, FL and MI didn't have their primaries. They had an event in which people knew they wouldn't count, people didn't vote as they might have otherwise, people may not have voted because they know it wouldn't count, people couldn't vote for Obama (in MI) so they voted for Hillary instead since they thought "well I guess she's running unopposed".

The results of the 'primaries' are completely useless because they don't reflect the results of what would have happened had people knew it would have counted.

AZM   April 28th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

The latest polls show Hillary can beat McCain but Obama can't.
If you count Florida and Mich she has more popular vote.
Obama won't debate because unscripted he's terrible (McCain will eat his lunch.

Obama is destroying the democrat party... he needs to do the right thing and walk away with the little respect he has left... just make sure you give all that money back please!

Bob, WA   April 28th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

Yeah Hillary,

Hang in there, fight to the bitter end, all the way to your convention.

Ditto heads are lovin' it.

McCain 08

Gene   April 28th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

AND CLINTON WILL NEVER, EVER BE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY!!!! THERE'S ENOUGH VOTERS WITH 'COMMON SENSE', WHO WILL SEE TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MCCAIN '08

Tobias   April 28th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Obama should drop out. He has absolutely no chance of winning in November. He is hurting the party and on top of that he isn't even qualified to be president. If the press had been doing their job and treating each candidate fairly instead of attacking Senator Clinton we wouldn't be in this mess. If all the people who already voted could have a do over you better believe that Clinton would have the nomination secured right now. It is time to vote smart and vote Clinton.

shawna   April 28th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

It amazes me how these polls are announced each week to try to sway public opinion. This poll must have been influenced by the Clinton campaign to try to influence voters on Tuesday that she is electable. Are the people of America so confused that from day to day polls have such sharp diferences in results? I believe these polls are being influenced just like everything else in politics. The world now knows just like after hurricane Katrina when they saw such helplessness in the land of plenty what our so called "democractic" process really involves. People, please vote for who you like, Hillary or Obama. on Tuesday.Don't let the media influence you anymore. Enough is enough The public is not stupid!!!

Ben, OK   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

With the Clintons involved, the DNC is going down, down, down.

How stupid can Dems be to let the Clintons strangle their own rules around their necks. No matter, McCain is going to win anyway.

I love that Florida/Michigan argument, just keep fighting Dems, we'll see you in November.

Aces full of Kings   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

First of all, we may as well concede Michigan and Florida to the Republicans after we botched up that mess. But we do not need these two states to win, so let McCain have them. Secondly, Dean needs to make Hillary drop out now. There is no way she can win the nominee, unless Obama suddenly was abducted by aliens. She is only making the party more divisive at a time when it needs to pull itself together. What are the super Ds waiting for? Act now! Back Barack!

Pam   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Hillary, do you honestly think that disinfranchising Michigans Obama supporters is fair??

If we are to count the popular votes, we, from Iowa and many other states think you had better start counting the caucus voters also.

You seem to disinfranchise ANYTHING that does not make you APPEAR to have a fat chance.

ak   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Hill is 100% correct, we can not and should not alienate MI and FL

AZM   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

The latest polls show Hillary can beat McCain but Obama can't.
If you count Florida and Mich she has more popular vote.
Obama won't debate because unscripted he's terrible (McCain will eat his lunch.

Obama is destroying the democrat party... he needs to do the right thing and walk away with the little respect he has left... just make sure you give all that money back please!

Jenna, NY   April 28th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Too late Howy... You act as if you are the decider...Relax

We are enjoying the horror movie. Hope you are too.

Clinton for Godzilla!

Dale Wise   April 28th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

Sort of? That wasn't a response at all. It was merely another opportunity for her to express her hypocritical propaganda and soundbites.

I can't believe the crap the media let's this broad get away with. It's as though Clinton's lying and flip-flopping are so expected that they don't even think that it is worth reporting. Either that, or they want her to win.

marcia   April 28th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

CLINTON IS CHANGING THE RULES OF THE GAME AND CLAIMS VICTORY IN A ONE PERSON RACE THAT SHE HAD SAID WOULD NOT COUNT. THIS IS WHY SO MANY AMERICANS DO NOT TRUST HER AND WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HER.

Tanya, GA   April 28th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

Why wasn't Hillary interested in "resolving Michigan & Florida" before she became the "underdog"? Only now that she needs those votes to count is she saying that we need these votes to win the general. Barack shouls debate her with no moderator and present the DNC paperwork she signed agreeing that since FLA and MI broke the DNC rules, their votes would not count, NOR would their delegates be seated.

She screams of desperation in claiming a hollow victory where her opponents weren't even on the ballot.

Chris   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Hillary Clinton, you are invited to support Barack Obama for President. Drop out and help heal the party you've helped to divide. Yes WE can, Hillary. Yes WE can.

Gene   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

OBAMA WILL NEVER, EVER BE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY!!! THERE'S ENOUGH VOTERS WITH 'COMMON SENSE', YET, WHO WILL SEE TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MCCAIN '08

Jesse   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

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If you check the record, it was the Clintons who signed off on the rules and agreed that both Michigan and Florida should NOT count if they didn't follow the rules.

Now the Clintons want to change the rules of the game to get ahead...

Bottom line Clinton can't win and is only hurting herself and the party

28 year old White MAN in FLORIDA   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

she is a coward

mary grube   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Rules are rules Hillary.You agreed with them before you fell behind.
Would be unfair to change them now.

Adam in INdy   April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Howard Dean should DROP OUT!!!!

Make FLORIDA & MICHIGAN Count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mathew, AL   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

I think she should go ALL the way to the convention and destroy the DNC. I'm loving this.

McCain 08

Mish   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Whoever at the end of these primaries is leading in votes and delegates should be the nominee
Floridas Gov offiicials BROKE the rules in michigan and Florida
If you want to blame someone , blame them!!
it would be most unfair to those who did not campaign in those two states !.If they want them counted then split them evenly
Quite handy for Clinton to now want them counted but if the tables were reversed she would raise pure hell and America knows that!
Wake up America and get rid of these dynasties of Clinton and Bushes!! Clinton will NEVER win against MCain why do you think the repubs want her as the nominee
She has too many negatives to ever have a chance
Vote for Obama and what *his views and issues are*
you just might start the change of the same old washington!!
Those who vote for Hillary are suckers for punishment
if she gets the nomination you DESERVE what you get

Marek Balsam   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Hillary should admit that her team's leaders had long favored punishing those who voted out of line. It was her group that disallowed the Michigan and Florida votes. The process was decided several years ago.

John Smith   April 28th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

I just cannot believe how the Republicans are gradually winning this election, thanks to some "bird-brain" democrats. The Republicans consistenly outfox the dems.

1. How can an "impeached family" be given this nation again (I mean somone who lied to this nation about sex, sex, and sex!)

2. How can anyone even think that an individual with such high negatives can ever bring together other people to implement solutions in Washington?

3. How can anyone put "wealth" over morality, integrity, and honesty?

I weep for the Dems!

Diane   April 28th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

She's sailing on the Titantic anyway, so who cares?

Obama 08

Grif   April 28th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

If you don't get the Nominee Hillary! I woulden't stay as a Lap Dog for Obama.. Go Independent, or Join John McCain. You'll get a great deal more respect...

frank   April 28th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

The votes in Michigan and Florida should be seated, or a reelection should be held before the nomination. Otherwise, it will not be fair to Hillary and also the voters in the two states. Based on current situation with Obama's blunders, including Rev. Wright, bittergate..., Obama can't win the two states.

Silly Hillbilly   April 28th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

America will never accept this woman. She is too divisive and too emotional. She has been the biggest clown in this election and for what, because the American people neither like or want her as our leader.

Go home Hillary, wherever that home is...Illinois, Arkansas, New York, Pennsylvainia. I'm not sure because you lie so much.

Obama 08

Donna   April 28th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

IF YOU SLAP MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA IN THE FACE DON'T EXPECT TO GET THEIR VOTE IN THE FALL!!

WHEN YOU POLL DEMS IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN THEY GO FOR HILLARY AND DON'T LIKE OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS WILLING TO COUNT THEM OUT.

IF OBAMA TAKES THE NOMINATION DON'T EXPECT TO WIN FLORIDA OR MICHIGAN THEY WILL VOTE FOR MC CAIN.

THE WRITINGS ON THE WALL WITH THIS ONE!!!

mama4obama   April 28th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Michigan and Florida are a non-issue Hillary....plain and simple. You agreed and so did everyone else.

The people of Florida and Michigan should be angry with those responsible within your state that chose to break the rules.

Im so sick of her....she is a bug that needs to be squashed.

Obama...I really hate to say this because I have nothing but respect for you...but you are going to have to press the heel of your shoe down on this creepy-crawly and twist.

OBAMA 08

Olivia   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

No one is going to drop out, Dean. Go take a seat and enjoy this very entertaining race that is energizing the democratic party. How often do you have to be told that?

Chipster   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Florida and Michigan voters should not be penalized just because a bunch of Republican legislators and Democratic party wonks couldn't get their act together. The voters went to vote when they were asked to do so and their votes should be counted.

Splitting the votes 50/50 is exactly the same as not counting them so what's the point in that?

As for Obama's name not being on the ballot in Michigan – that was his poor judgment. It was NOT part of the agreement and he was not required to do it. He simply made a bad choice. Again, not the voters' fault or Clinton's.

Count the votes!

Comment is Awaiting Moderation   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S PLATFORM WHERE DEAN LOVES TO SHOUT "RULES ARE RULES" DOES THAT NOT INCLUDE THE OPTION OF THE CANDIDATE TO BRING THE FINAL DECISION TO THE VOTE OF THE DELEGATES AND SUPERDELEGATES?

IF SO, WHY DOES HE NOT WANT TO HAVE THESE RULES APPLIED WHERE DEAN WAS SO ADAMANT IN DISENFRANCHISING FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN BECAUSE THEY BROKE A RULE BY VOTING EARLIER THAN THEY WERE PERMITTED TO DO...

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, SENATOR CLINTON, EITHER IT IS THE SUPERDELEGATES OR FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN AND IF STILL A DEAD HEAT, THEN BACK TO THE CONVENTION!!!!!!!

John in PA   April 28th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Howard Dean you want no part of Hillary, you aren't man enough. You are the one that should quit.

The Dude   April 28th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

In other words "I agree with you if, at the end of this, Obama should drop out... Otherwise I'm going to take this to the convention and completely destroy the party."

Common Sense '08!

Mary   April 28th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

She makes me sick! She will stick it out even if it means tearing the Democrat party apart. It's all about ME!

Silly Hillbilly   April 28th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

She hasn't responded to Dean before. In fact they've been walking all over Dean and the DNC.

Hillary is running for 2012 and Dean can take a hike because his leadership has been zero.

I won't vote for Hillary in 2008 and I definitely won't vote for her in 2012, esepecially since Barack will be our president and will run again.

Obama 08

Concerned Democrat   April 28th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

I don't understand why Hillary supporters want to steal an election from the obvious winner?

We know what happened the last time an election was stolen!!!

It's no way she will be ahead in popular vote or delagates come June.

Numbers don't lie but desperate politicians do!!!

Democrat's 08

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