I love how Dems feel one should compromise about following rules they already pledged to agree to. Confused yet? Just wait…

That is good!!

Hillary 08

That is just crap!!! This just another ploy by Sentor Clinton to try to add in the popular vote in MI. DNC, you set the rules. Either they don't count or you should split them down the middle. They broke the rules and should have to live with them.

They need to let FL and MI count!!!

I think Hillary should get more!!

Rules are made to be broken? They broke the rules. The candidates knew, the voters knew. How many times is FL going to jack with the democratic process and cry foul?

I for one do not think they should be counted. As Hillary once agreed to with a signature. Now that it is in her best interest, she's all for counting them.

This is ridiculous! Michigan Democrats broke the rules. They should suffer the consequences.

Obviously a 50-50 split suggested by the Obama camp doesn't make sense, but I also I'm not too excited about awarding Hillary just 10 delegates. Remember, Obama's 40% vote included votes for Edwards, Biden and Richardson as well. So, she should at least get 15 delegates if not more. Of course the only way to solve this problem is to do a revote.

Since this election DID NOT COUNT why should HRC receive more delegates? Any compromise other than a 50-50 split does a disservice to all, although 45% voted uncommited numerous people DID NOT VOTE because they were told it WOULD NOT count so STOP trying to change the rules, besides whatever the outcome each delegate should be worth only .5 instead of 1 full vote as punishment FOR breaking the rules.

How do we know they supported Obama and not Edwards ????

What a dumb stupid proposal. Giving Hillary 10 delegate lead…why ?…what is the justification for this? What makes you think that Hillary would have even one single delegate lead if we had a real primary there? Where is the voice of the voters here? Either re-vote or don't bother to count those delegates - periode.

The new proposal favors Clinton. That is not fair and would not work.

Thanks for your proposal.

This is still not going to work– because you never know what the results WOULD HAVE BEEN if Obama and Edwards were on the ballot——— sorry people, just forget about it. You broke the rules… now you have to deal with the outcome.

It was not 40% uncommitted. Dodd, Gravel and Kucinisc garnered votes.

Furthermore, Uncommitted could have been for Edwards, Biden and Richardson.

Obama should not get anything. he took his name off the ballot. It's called karma.

why a ten delegate advantage……the DNC should stick by its ruling and not let any count or just split them 50 /50…………talk about lack of understanding the rules……..Hillary next time read the rule book……and you wonder why you are trailing nobody Obama…

This is absolutely ridiculous! What a stupid thing to do when there was only one candidate listed on the ballot. This makes absolutely no sense and makes me question as to why I am a Democrat. Why not play fair if it has to be a "re-do?"

I think the funniest thing I have read in this is that while she was the ONLY (major) candidate on the ballot, she only got 55% of the vote.

Now THAT's funny!

Finally some reason is creeping in. Now hopefully, Democratic leaders can get somewhere sane on Florida.

they agreeeeeeed that it wouldn't count. who knows if hillary would have won if she wasn't the only person running. ughhhhhhhh

THIS is the crap that has divided the DEMS! THIS is the crap that sent me out of the party. This is the crap that will have me voting for Hillary even if she is not on the balott!!!
I WILL WRITE HER IN>>> and I know that is as good as voting for McCain without the PAIN!!!

Still not fair since they BOTH signed the agreeement not to count the results in MI and FL, but if it will shut Hillary up then go for it. Obama will make up those 10 delegates by announcing 10 supers.

Obama '08

Wrong for many reasons. Obama was not on the ticket. Those that are persuing this are Hillary supporter, that in its self leads one to question their underlying motives. Not every voter in Michigan voted because they were told their vote would not count. Many of those that did vote, did so for the only candidate on the ticket. If Michigan wants to be seated it should be a 50/50 split period.

every other candidate took their names off the ballot, these people must be clinton supporters(suffering from idiocy)

Good…. Everyone should be heard…. Split the votes, everyone in the uncommitted vote give to Obama and let Clinton get her's. Problem solved and Mr. Dean….. Yell somemore we miss that….hahaha

The Democratic Party's heavy-handed disenfranchisment of MI and FL voters is profoundly undemocratic, and every new proposal further confirms this conclusion. Their candidates are both unelectable and such proposals amount to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

This does not make any sense at all. What's fair is fair only Clinton's name was on the ballot. They should split the delegates 50/50 or stick to the rules don't sit them at all. The DNC needs to have some backbone. The republicans would kip their words. That's why they are better them democrats in actions.

Those power hungry Clintons people get me sick.

Don't do it Obama….. I bet if your name was on the ballot linton wouldnt have had as many votes!

Give Hillary 55% of the delegates and Obama 45%.

Or continue alienating the voters of Michigan and Florida and give the election to John McCain.

Why should she get 10 more delegates? He didn't run, his name wasn't on the ballot, voters knew this, some didn't come out to vote because of this, I am really tired of this. Split it 50-50 and then move on.

Why even have rules if they aren't going to be followed.

Only 10 delegates more for Hillary!!! Obama was stupid to take his name off the ballot and I don't accept the idea that HIllary should pay for his mistake.

Speak up on this neighbors in Michigan!

Why is it that Obama supporter's or better described "Hillary Haters" want to have their cake and eat it. They are quick to claim that we should follow the rules when it comes to Michigan and Florida and not seat their delegates at the convention, but when it comes to the possibility of the Super Delegates casting their vote for Hillary based on the rules for their mere existence { the discretion to cast a vote how they see is best for the Dems} they scream 'Stealing the Nomination", get a grip.

To change the rules now which CLINTON and OBAMA AGREED TO is injust and undemocratic. When we all agree and vote to abide for a structure of rules then that's democracy. If Michigan citizenry (and FL) felt that it is injust to not have their votes counted then the protest should have happened months before the primary season (OR HOW ABOUT AT THE MOMENT THAT THIS OCCURRED).

For Clinton and proponents to come-out now and call it unfair, wrong, unjust, to point the finger at Obama (I mean you Rendell), now is a total HYPOCRICY. I hope and pray that you stop giving false and misguided insinuations that MI and FL votes won't count. A primary is one thing which legally is in the hands of the party to decide; the protection under our constitution for a counted vote is referring to the General Election. I vote that we start implementing Civics back into our education system. And if you don't know then please don't open your mouths, cause like my elders would teach me, opinions without concrete knowledge is a display of stupidity. Sorry but its true.

That's garbage. She won the state, she should get them all. Obama made his own mistake by not putting himself on the ballot.

Awarding any delegates in this state is just crooked low down dirty politics. How can clinton claim that, after lying to the DNC and the other candidates by remaining on the ballot, people are being disenfranchised? She is cheating her fellow opponents, democrats and the country. Shame on you for continuing politics as usual.

It is rediculous to seat them 64-64. Just seating the delegates doesn't solve the problem, because although it gives Michigan representation, it doesn't represent the people who voted. And John edwards wasn't on the ballot either, so some of those uncommitted delegates might belong to him not Obama. They should just have a re-vote.

Leave it until after the primaries! If there isn't a decisive victory for either candidate at that time, then put forth your plan. But,don't try to influence the election unjustly in favor of Clinton because in reality Barack Obama is the one that played by the rules.

Do these Clintin folks know their math. 55% of 128 is 70 not 78!!!
The proposed compromise is quite fair and both groups should take it and do the same in Florida.

Based on the feedback I've received from my family (all Michigan voters), they're pretty ticked off that party officials have messed it up for them — they feel that their votes should count and that they should not suffer because of political infighting. Given the fact that the family is split between Obama and Clinton I can say I'm not speaking up here because I skew toward either candidate — my first care is ensuring a Democratic victory in the Fall, and I believe that it would be extremely shortsighted of the party not to consider the very important people of MI and FL.

Howard Dean stated on Larry King Live that he believed that the delegates would be seated in some fashion, which is great news for the voters, so hear hear.

Finally, I think it's wrong of the Obama camp to continue to try to block the delegates from those states just because the results don't go his way . I don't blame him for trying to maintain an edge, but what he's doing isn't right.

OK so awarding those delegates, (no matter how many) is not fair! What about the rules??? SO it's ok to change them in the middle of the road because she's losing??? NICE!! Boy this says a lot about America..you don't like rules, change them..Do you really think Barack would have been given this option? NO WAY..let's not disappoint Hillary though..after all, she's the queeen of America!! what BS!!!!

The only fair way to seat the delegates is to respect the will of the voters - that is, award 55% of the delegates to Clinton, and leave the remaining 45% unallocated.

If Obama didn't have the foresight to place his name on the ballot, then that's his mistake and he should not gain from it. The DNC should not bail out Obama from his own mistake.

More importantly, what does this say about the ability of Obama to manage the country's affairs? How can we expect hiom to have the foresight to manage our country's affairs when he doesn't have the foresight to predict the Michigan Debacle that was very obviously on its way? Only Hillary Clinton saw the writing on the wall, and this shows her ability to think ahead of the rest of the pack.

That is not a fair way to do it. You can't seat these delegates and give someone an edge—it's just not right! These people should be outraged at their state's Democratic leaders for putting them in this position–not the candidates!

50/50 or nothing. that is not fair for Obama

Exuse me! What? She only got 55% when she was the ONLY one on the ballet. That's very unfair. 50/50 or forget it!

Michigan and Florida should both count and this is the best proposal so far!

Obama cannot win the general election. He is an inauthentic, fatally flawed candidate with zero credibility. Wright got it right. Obama only says wht he has to say as a politician.

So, now or later!

Michigan and Florida should both count, and this is the best proposal so far!

Obama cannot win the general election. He is an inauthentic, fatally flawed candidate with zero credibility. Wright got it right. Obama only says wht he has to say as a politician.

So, now or later!

What part of "NO" do these people not understand?

50/50 or no deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds reasonable.

this is all a big fraud
the fix is on for hillary

Florida 50% each candidate and Michigan 50% each candidate, that is the correct way.

This would be called cheating, Hillary. Lieing, cheating and fear mongering. Why don't we just re-elect Bush for another term. We wouldn't even have to repaint the white house.

Why would he do something soooo foolish as to give her the upperhand? His name was not on the ballot and he did not get a chance to campaign there. No!!! Sen. Obama, don't do it…

Thank you……

A 50-50 split and seat delegates is the only fair solution, as everyone knew that there would be no delegates. Clinton does not need any help as her campaign signed.

Warren Richart
Iowa

5:15

C'mon Michigan officials, wake up to realities!

Accept the punishment for the foolishness moving up the primary date and the DNC will split delegates accordingly.

Hillary won against nobody. Count those votes?

Be glad the process has a resolution, end the discussion already. Split the delegates and move on. Other states have the advantage from having correct date primaries and caucus events, they get to choose.

Michigan did it to themselves. Florida Democratic party at the whims of Republican legislators ruined their primary.

Both states didn't think DNC had the "stones" to punishment them.

This voting process demands rules and acceptance. Accept the punishment Michigan, you blew it for both Hillary and Obama.

Hillary clearly won Michigan.

Obama supporters were encouraged to vote uncommitted as were John Edwards supporters. If you give Obama all the uncommitted votes and attendant delegates…that's probably fair.

All we need to do is check out Terry McAuliffe's (sp) book about how to handle states that step out of line…. Right Terry? No closer than Boston?

Why exactly should their superdelegates get a full vote? If anyone should be punished it's them.

CNN,

Please Report The News…..North Carolina Robocalls Giving False Info To Blacks! ……..This is important news, so please warn the people of North Carolina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's great news for Hillary.

I want Obama to explain how he's going to keep those black people in their place. Since the media dubbed him as the spokesperson for black america I wanna know, how will he keep that group in order if elected!

Go Hillary!

obama in 08..he is what he says he is…and hilary is not…it's that simple

The only way for Michigan Democrats to be represented would be hold another primary. That isn't happening.

What about doing a real election and let Hillary pay for it….

Give Clinton her votes, and Obama the ones that say "uncommitted", and then seat the Michigan Delegates. As for Florida, both names appeared on the ballot, so appropriate delegates accordingly.

A New Compro/Fix???

What is the problem here? Hillary should have obeyed the rules that she signed in agreement. Now that she needs those delegates, she's trying to change the rules. Delegates should be split 50/50. Honestly, as a punishment, she should get the lower of the delegates. That will teach her to follow the rules!

Hmmm try to seat MI and not FL they will still have a huge uproar on their hands. Many people voted for Hillary based upon name recognition of that her husband, therefore the only true way to resolve this is either to split the votes 50/50 and seat the delegates or just stand firm and tell FL and MI NO DEAL!!!

Clinton's Response: Hell No! The vote counted as is I want my 73-55 win!

Obama's Response: "My name was not on the ballot!"

Committee's Response: Okay lets think of a new plan.

Simple as that.

I'm sorry but there are obama supporters who voted for clinton bcos Obama's name wasn't on the ballot.

What about the Florida Delegates, are they going to be divided in half also? Because CNN, only mention Michigan.

Dorothy

The new proposal to seat the Michigan delegates doesn't work because Obama's name wasn't even on the Ballot so how can they suggest giving Clinton a 10-point edge?

No I want 72 -56……………What's that bad joke's punchline - "We're not arguing about if you will, just how much you'll charge?". Split them as they voted.

Hey guys,
If those people who are trying to solve th Michigan and Florida problem think they are unbiased and impartial, how can they penalise a candidate whose only fault is respecting the rule set up by his party (his name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan).
The last time I check, neither Obama nor Clinton said anything about those rules (Florida & Michigan penalty by the democrat party).
The last time I check too the rules were go out there and prove yourself and if the democrat party were now to decide/cook behind close doors who is the democrat nominee, believe me, that will shunt out more voters that what you guys think might happen if Michigan/Florida were left out.
Take my e-mail as proof in Nov, the democrat party will be crying after loosing badly if voters even suspect the nomination was biased thus any of the remaing canditate.

Are you kidding me? Clinton breaks the spirit of the rules and get rewarded. Geeeeez!!

I am speechless. What country am I living in??? "Give her an edge?" because she won 55% when she was the only one on the ballot?? WHY IS THIS EVEN BEING DISCUSSED!?!??!

Sounds like more fuzzy math to me.

"If" MI's delegates were to be counted, then at the very least they should have some penalty for breaking the DNC rules. I hate to say this, but why not adopt the Republican strategy for having only half the delegates count? Then figure out a way to apportion them fairly that takes into account the fact that one candidate wasn't even on the ballot. Otherwise, wouldn't the DNC ultimately be rewarding MI for their behavior? Sort of like rewarding the kid that gets caught with his/her hands in the cookie jar?

Sorry folks, but rules are rules. If you're upset about not getting your votes counted, get angry at your stage legislature and governor, not the DNC or the individual presidential candidates.

Not fair. Barak Obama followed the rules and left his name off our ballot. Clinton cheated and went against the rules and put her name on it. Not everyone in Michigan new about the "uncommited" rule. The only fair way would be to SPLIT THE VOTES! Our stupid greedy governer Granholm caused this mess. Why should her candidate clinton benefit from her greediness!

Well - I guess you people don't know that - that's not going to work!

You broke the rules -

Go Obama!

It seems that the only fair thing to do would be to simply split the delegates with 50% going to Clinton and 50% going to Obama.
Whoever the candidate is, if the concern is to simply "seat the delegates" then the fifty fitty split will be a go for both candidates and the Michigan delegation I am sure would be happy with this. So, go for it, do the right thing and split the delegates 50/50. And Florida should do the very same thing. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out, it is a no-brainer.

Huh?

Why would Sen. Clinton get 10 more delegates?

Solution(s) are easy: either campaign there and re-vote OR split the delegates evenly OR stand by the rules everyone agreed too.

Just go away HRC. Go away.

C. Levin… you are a big disappointment.

WHAT PARTS OF "YOUR DELEGATES WON'T BE SEATED IF YOU VIOLATE PARTY RULES YOU AGREED TO" DO NOT HILLARY AND THE POLITICIANS OF MI AND FL UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS TOTAL BS.

Florida and Michigan have to be resolved before the superdelegates make a decision. Dean's comments to get them to pick a candidate after the primaries is not fair unless Florida and Michigan are seated.

We need a strong fighter in the White House to handle all the problems our Nation has right now.

I hope people will look to Hillary to be that fighter. She won't give up on us.

Glad to see that folks are working hard to get the votes counted. Residents of Michigan voted in good faith - and their vote should count. The votes that were cast have been certified and are legal and DO count, that popular vote was not taken away just the delegate count. Obama decided to remove his name from the ballot and that is his own fault and than refused to a re-vote. I think he should be given all the uncommitted votes. His demanding that he should get half the vote and split the delegates 50-50 is outrageous. Just another example of Obama do what I say and not what I do - he doesn't walk the talk folks.

Why not seat the delegates as is and give the superdelegates half a vote? It was the Michigan Democratic Party, with a Democratic Governor and Democratic-controlled legislature, that decided to defy the DNC and move their primary up with FULL KNOWLEDGE that they would lose all of their delegates.

The voters are being punished with a half-vote per delegate rule, but the superdelegates–the Governor, the members of Congress, and the State Party officials–get a full vote?

That, my friends, is what elitism is all about.

Strip the superdelegates for their stupidity, and keep the 10 delegate margin for the pledged delegates as an approximation of what the delegate count would have been if this was a valid election, but with the popular vote being discarded because this was not a valid election.

Simple.

It's simple.

If the Dems want to get MI and FL in the general election, they seat the delegates.
If the Dems don't care about MI and FL, they don't.

Either way, someone is unhappy about something because Howard Dean is quite incompetent at his job.

OBAMA WILL STALL THIS AGAIN BECAUSE HE DOES NOT CARE IF OUR VOTES COUNT OR NOT!!!!!!!!

HE IS A DISHONEST MAN!!!!!!

HOW COULD ANYONE VOTE FOR HIM?

MY VOTE GOES TO HILLARY CLINTON 2008!

Cheaters never prosper–what say you, superdelegates?

I think the delegates should be given out evenly, since it was an unfair race. Senator Obama was not even on the ballot in Michigan.

Hillary knows what to do, hope is not enough, progress needs experience to be effective and Hillary has what it takes to be our President!

Obama is a loser, he threw his own grandmother under the bus to defend Rev Wright

Now Wright has stood by his comments….

Obama, you may need a few more years of mentoring from your Pastor

Hillary 08- Yes she will!!!
Every vote must count!!!

Vote Democrat- Vote for Clinton!

ATTENTION HILLORY SUPPORTERS: Please explain how you can possibly support a candidate who formally agreed that the Michigan vote would not count and now demands that it be counted. By what insane logic can this be justified?

This is a total unfair advantage because Obama wasn't even on the ballot. Hillary agreed not to include Michigan when she was winning, now that she's loosing she wants to back out. Tipical 2 face.

I hope Obama can finish her on Tuesday!

Good luck Obama!

Are those uncommited still backing Obama? No, no even division of the delegates, his name did not appear on the ballot , as a result there should NOT be an even split of the delegates! The majority ought to go to Sen. Clinton, she won 55 % fair and square! Either that or a revote but no edge for Obama, he was not " PRESENT" !!!

Hillary should receive all of the delegates from Michigan. Obama chose to drop Michigan — his choice. If Hillary receives less than 60% of the Michigan delegates, she has been robbed. I seem to remember there were more candidates running in the Democratic Primary when MIchigan had its election. What about their 5%? Also, who knows how many people would have voted for Obama? A majority of 40%? How much is that? Clinton should have at least a 20 delegate edge. Nothing less because she really should be awarded 95% of the delegates — after all, Obama was not even on the ballot. He should get 0%! The "no vote" senator should get 0%!

half & half and get it over with.

i wonder how sen clinton would feel if she were the dems nominee and her name wasn't on the ballot in some states and they decide it's all fair in politics but you can have some of the votes but we will decide how many you'll get. the dems would lose our minds in nov as we should and fight this tooth and nail as this being unfair

That actually seems fair. It doesn't dent the delegate lead that Obama has, and it represents the votes that Clinton received.

Obama fanatics: don't scream that it's not fair because only her name was on the ballot and some democrats voted republican. It very likely would have turned out this way.

Clinton fanatics: don't come screaming about how it was 'stupid' of Obama to drop his name in the first place. Everyone but Clinton did. If anything, she was the political schemer.