May 1st, 2008
02:25 PM ET
10 years ago

Clinton adviser makes superdelegate pitch

Clinton's campaign says she has 'automatic delegates.'

Clinton's campaign says she has 'automatic delegates.'

(CNN) - Following a surge in the pace of superdelegate endorsements, senior Clinton adviser Harold Ickes released a memo addressed to the Democratic Party’s “automatic delegates” that points to several new polls that suggest Hillary Clinton would be tougher to beat than Barack Obama in a general election bout.

(Ickes refers to superdelegates as “automatic delegates” because he says that term better reflects their status as party leaders and elected officials who are entitled to a vote at the Democratic convention.)

At least dozen superdelegates have publicly weighed in so far this week. Of those, roughly two-thirds have supported Obama, and one-third have backed Clinton.

“A spate of new public polls out this week confirms what we have been arguing for some time: Hillary Clinton is the strongest candidate to beat John McCain in November,” writes Ickes.

He points to results in recent national and swing state surveys testing hypothetical head-to-head matchups with John McCain which show Clinton performing slightly better than Obama. He also notes the New York senator’s showing in “the all important subcategories that serve as bellwethers for a candidate’s overall strength.”

Ickes says relevant results in those categories include Obama’s rising unfavorable ratings, and Clinton’s greater strength among independent voters and seniors – and among young voters, a group that has been a vital part of Obama’s base in many of his previous primary wins.

In the latest AP-Ipsos poll pitting each Democratic candidate against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, both candidates win a majority – but Clinton fares better, pulling in two-thirds of those voters against McCain, while Obama receives the support of 55 percent in a hypothetical matchup with the Arizona senator.

soundoff (520 Responses)
  1. CB

    Are they sceaming to change the rules again? They are like a pesty fly.
    Get real and face the fact, Hill, Bill & C. You can just ease on down the road soon.

    Obama 08!

    May 1, 2008 03:36 pm at 3:36 pm |
  2. Cathy

    michelle obama said to go back at the issues.What issues obama doesn't talk about the issues, he only talks about hope and change.Hope and change doesn.t give a job,put food on the table and gas in the car.HILLARY is the only one that is talking about the issues,obama is talking about Wright all the time.

    May 1, 2008 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  3. SlimSista



    May 1, 2008 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  4. Lisa

    The democratic vote is currently being split between 2 people. The Republicans have their candidate already. Until the dems have theirs, you can't get an accurate poll.

    May 1, 2008 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  5. sacto joe

    Electability is a red herring. Either Clinton or Obama can win, thanks to the electoral college advantage the Dems have.

    The question is simple: who would you rather have a President: Barak or Hillary?

    And if you based your decision on race or gender, then you're guilty of prejudice.

    May 1, 2008 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  6. TF, CO

    Peter Paul Vs. Clinton

    Look it up on YouTube people. Hillary and Bill are looking at a felony if convicted. Granted they'll slip out of it but this will come up against the GOP.

    Does Obama have any possible felonies convictions coming up. I don't think so.

    May 1, 2008 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  7. Shon

    Well, if the polls are the predictor, then why didn't Hillary drop out when obama was 10 or 11 points ahead of her. This is just more proof that Hillary Clinton will use anything she can to win.

    May 1, 2008 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  8. anon


    Since the media refuses to do any reporting or revealing of the Peter Paul vs Clinton fraud case in California, we should start our own movement and flood every last blog on CNN and every blogging website that exists on the World Wide Web!!! It's utterly ridiculous that the media has not covered this story yet!!! ARE YOU ALL WITH ME?!?!

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  9. Rich

    Clinton, you need to be winning super delegates 2 to 1 to have a prayer, but instead this is what Obama is doing.

    Yes, Obama's ratings are down, thanks in no small part to your divisive tactics. Maybe McCain can give you a job as a campaign manager for the general election; you'd certainly be "ready on day one" for that job.

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  10. Grant

    Actually, Obama is taking on three candidates...McCain, Bill and Hillary Clinton, lets call this for what it is....I keep hearing this "tested" about Hillary, she is a Junior Senator, basically by acclamation as she did not even live in the state and has no politically ties beyond fundraising. She has not been under any attack linking to her to outside scandals, (Wright) and the self made scandal "snipergate" she handled with idignation as to "how dare you?". How will SHE stand up to the Republican attack machine once they start unloading on her personally and dredging up the Clinton Skeletons, and we all know they are there. She has not had to answer to this at all in the primary....She certainly likes to throw though, and we all know the school yard bully always turns out to be the biggest wimp, while the quiet guy is one who kicks your $^%^$

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  11. Harrison

    The Clintons and the MSM do not want us to know about Peter Paul. CNN is scared. Did you know a pro-Clinton judge postponed the start of the trail until after November 2008? This is so HRC will not have to testify during a campaign and will never testify if she is President. How convenient! If HRC is in the WH – get used to 4 more years of scandal. Electable – yes – for tabloids and MSM but not for Americans who need help.

    She made it clear last night that she is a "rich person" who is privileged and should be empathetic to us poor folks.

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  12. Terry Frakes

    You Obama supporters are going to be the laughing stock when wright comes out with the real truth, then what are you going to say? Do you honestly think he has got a plan? Oh well, its your cry. haha.

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  13. Tim

    You Obama backers need look at the big picture .When all said and done the Demorcrats need to get the white house back if they want to get anything done .Rev Wright has hurt Obama with the Independents and Blue Collar voters .If he looses Indiana as bad as Pennsylvannia you will see a big shift his credibility .Obama is a nice guy but he did this to his self .

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  14. James

    I wonder how much Hillary must have paid the polling companies.

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  15. Marc in DeKalb, IL

    So... the polls are clearly right when they are in your favor, but for the rest of the primary, when they were not, they were wrong?

    You are more full of crap than an Arkansas outhouse, and your lies smell far worse...

    May 1, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  16. BOB


    the only electable candidate is hillary

    dont give this election away.....

    many democrats in florida will vote mccain if obama is nominee

    hillary 08

    May 1, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  17. CNN

    If we were going by the weekly polls Obama would have been nominated long time ago.
    Lets stop the madness, and let the process go on.
    Why is it that the Clinton's camp are always coming up with new rules whenever it suites them?
    Let the people vote, and the superdelegates are free to support whomever they choice. Isn't that what Sen. Hillary herself said a while back? Are they scared that superdelgates are moving away from their camp and going to obama?

    May 1, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  18. jimmy

    don't know why my comments don't get posted...

    looks like Hillary is going to lose but Obama won't be able to win the GE. This independant does not believe in Obama and will not vote for him.

    Hillary '12 – Rise, Hillary, Rise

    May 1, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  19. Peter in CA

    Hillary's 'testicular fortitude' can be put to good use when the DCN and the Obama campaign has her stump through Ohio, Texas, Penn for Barack!

    May 1, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  20. robert, new york

    I'm am switching my commentary allegiance to a different news outlet. About half of my comments make it through and I have heard the same complaints from other Hillary supporters while all of these moronic blurbs from Obama supporters are getting being posted, obviously with no moderation. Time to take the level of discussion up a notch. Perhaps CBS. Not sure yet. CNN is awaiting moderation. Hillary 08 or McCain. Obama. No way in Hades.

    May 1, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  21. studpidityaboundsyetagain

    wow, all I read are anti Hillary statements, objective aren't we? Can't wait for Obama to go up against McCain and get ripped apart for the phoney he is....

    May 1, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |

    Paul v. Clinton is a civil suit filed in 2004 and currently being held in Los Angeles County Superior Court. The plaintiff Peter Paul, alleges that President Bill Clinton and his wife, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, deceived him into paying for the Gala Hollywood Farewell Salute to President Clinton, during Hillary Clinton's first Senate race in 2000, by making a promise that the President would work for Paul's company, Stan Lee Media, after his Presidential term was over. Paul alleges that the President broke his promise and stole his business partner, causing his business to crumble and, further, that his contributions to Hillary Clinton's campaign were falsely reported to the Federal Election Commission.[1] Besides the Clintons, three other individuals who were involved in fundraising or the gala, are named as defendants in the suit.[2]

    In April 2006 the judge in the case dismissed all charges against Hillary Clinton,[2] for lack of evidence[2] and due to a California law that broadly protects political activities.[3] Paul filed an appeal of the decision to dismiss her from the case. A hearing was held on September 7, 2007;[3] on October 16, 2007, the appeal was denied by California's Second District Court of Appeal, which upheld the lower court's opinion and said that Hillary Clinton could recoup her legal costs.[4] After the ruling, Paul said he would consider a further appeal to the Supreme Court of California.[4] Most but not all of the charges against President Clinton have also been dismissed by the court, on procedural grounds.[3]

    May 1, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  23. David

    It's funny how her campaign uses polls when she is leading but when she's not leading she says "oh I don't watch the polls since they constantly change."

    More Clinton double talk.

    May 1, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  24. dlr

    Yeah Right!!!! And then what happens when real negatives surface (Peter Paul, etc.)?

    Sorry! She has already threaten to bomb Iran (i.e. another war), her gas tax is a joke, she still has to appear in court regarding campaign fraud. Do you want me to go on? Superdelegates get it, why do you and her! Lets talk about her church...Wouldn't the people like to know their beliefs?

    May 1, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  25. Michael

    Wow! I see now what it is the Superdelegates know that many of us Joe Citizens didn't!

    The landmark civil fraud suit, Paul v Clinton et al pending in Los Angeles Superior Court against the Clintons on and off since 2001 has been hidden from the public by the mainstream media for seven years. While the case was showcased in the documentary trailer for Hillary! Uncensored which made internet history with more than five million downloads in a few weeks in November, 2007, it has remained under the radar of the public consciousness as part of the greatest political scandal cover-up since Watergate.
    On Thursday, February 21, 2008, a hearing before Judge Munoz will be held in Paul v Clinton with David Kendall representing the Clintons. A trial date will be set for late in 2008 and a discovery schedule will be created for sworn depositions to be taken of all principal witnesses.
    The limited perception and understanding that exists of the case is that it is simply a business fraud suit by Clinton donor and erstwhile Clinton employer Peter Paul against Bill Clinton who was aided and abetted by Hillary in inducing Paul to spend more than $1.2 million to elect Hillary to the Senate with a false promise to work with paul when Clinton left the White House.
    But the prosecution of the first suit to haul a President and Senator into court for fraud and coercion has the potential of revealing through sworn testimony of the Clinton hierarchy of the Democratic Party the culture of corruption that permeates the party and egregious examples of party leaders including Al Gore, Ed Rendell, Terry McAuliffe as frauds and scofflaws.
    The threat to the party as well as the Clintons that is posed by the discovery and trial in the suit is that it not only links the Clintons personally to felony violations of the law and obstructions of justice but it will also destroy the credibility of Clinton surrogates who control the party at a time when Obama will be looking to take over the Party with his people.
    The significance of the lawsuit is that it exposes a broader focus on the Corruption of the Clinton Cabal that has a stranglehold on the Democratic Party.

    May 1, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
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