May 1st, 2008
02:25 PM ET
10 years ago

Clinton adviser makes superdelegate pitch

Clinton's campaign says she has 'automatic delegates.'

Clinton's campaign says she has 'automatic delegates.'

(CNN) - Following a surge in the pace of superdelegate endorsements, senior Clinton adviser Harold Ickes released a memo addressed to the Democratic Party’s “automatic delegates” that points to several new polls that suggest Hillary Clinton would be tougher to beat than Barack Obama in a general election bout.

(Ickes refers to superdelegates as “automatic delegates” because he says that term better reflects their status as party leaders and elected officials who are entitled to a vote at the Democratic convention.)

At least dozen superdelegates have publicly weighed in so far this week. Of those, roughly two-thirds have supported Obama, and one-third have backed Clinton.

“A spate of new public polls out this week confirms what we have been arguing for some time: Hillary Clinton is the strongest candidate to beat John McCain in November,” writes Ickes.

He points to results in recent national and swing state surveys testing hypothetical head-to-head matchups with John McCain which show Clinton performing slightly better than Obama. He also notes the New York senator’s showing in “the all important subcategories that serve as bellwethers for a candidate’s overall strength.”

Ickes says relevant results in those categories include Obama’s rising unfavorable ratings, and Clinton’s greater strength among independent voters and seniors – and among young voters, a group that has been a vital part of Obama’s base in many of his previous primary wins.

In the latest AP-Ipsos poll pitting each Democratic candidate against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, both candidates win a majority – but Clinton fares better, pulling in two-thirds of those voters against McCain, while Obama receives the support of 55 percent in a hypothetical matchup with the Arizona senator.

soundoff (520 Responses)
  1. FEDUP

    RG.. Have you look at the whole thing? It was determined a frivolous lawsuit. If there were truth to it, the media would be all over it. Hope you didn't donate. Wonder how many Obama-bots have?

    May 1, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  2. Bob

    While Clinton's supporters abandon her, her campaign points to fugacious polls – which should the super delegates pay attantion to??

    May 1, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  3. Nic

    RG: Not to mention the almost total lack of coverage on the truth behind Magnequench.

    May 1, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  4. Jayson

    I find it funny that those who support Obama say that the superdelegates should follow the popular vote. However if the superdelegates were to do so what would even be the point of having delegates who are able to vote as they see fit?

    If people are smart they will elect a Republican for the pure simple fact that the Democrats will do exactly the same stupid crap as the Republicans did when they held control of both houses and the presidency.

    May 1, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  5. bill pike

    the clinton/bush royalty is showing its ugly head. wonder what deal was made with this person of interest, maybe some of the NAFTA money the clintons are making goes to him. 20 YEARS OF BUSH/CLINTON IS ENOUGH TO STOMACH. It's time for change, and when you get the beverly hillbillies out of the way obama will be our next president in spite of all the damage the clintons have cause by lies and a hunger for power i have never seen before-and this is from a successful business owner, white, college educated, vet, long line of active republican family. I GET SICK FOR THE SECONDS IT TAKES ME TO TURN THE CHANNEL WHEN BILLARY COMES ON. She "wouldn't have stayed in that church" but she was in the odd house I mean white house while billie was playing with young girls and she stayed. let me think-what a person says or does. wright not obama said things. clinton brought in young girls and had sex with them. IS IT WHAT A PERSON SAYS OR DOES???? BUSH/CLINTON IS TIME TO GET OUT OF DC OR WE NEVER WILL HAVE CHANGE.

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  6. 28 year old White MAN in FLORIDA

    sore looser

    Everything they try to through at OBAMA comes back and hit them smack dab in the middle of there face...... they paid REV wright to come out and to speak.... And it is not going to work... OBAMA is a beast and the clintons cant tear him down..... All of her supers are leaving her and going to him...hillary i wish that you will give it up, b/c you will never be president... there will never be another clinton in the white house...and when the primaries are over on the 6th... the polls will show that OBAMA is better .......ITS funny how hillary said in an interview that the polls dont matter.... but i guess now they do matter....


    B Fair CNN

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  7. Cedric

    Funny how the only way the Clintonistas can get to Obama is through Jeremiah Wright. Nothing else worked. So just in the heat of the latest shortterm polls reflecting Wright's recent media attention, the Clintons bring out their polls. How stupid. You know, Hillary should be should be so gratified, that she should make Wright her running mate, you think?

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  8. Stephen

    DESPERATION on the part of the HRC camp.

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  9. Jose

    Any links to verify Clinton's campaign debt? I keep hearing about this and if she truly can't manage a campaign she should drop out.

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  10. Mike

    There is nothing to worry about for Sen. Clinton.

    If not now, it is going to be 2012 for Sen. Clinton. All Sen. Obama's Super delegates will find out hard way of their mistakes.

    Hillary 2008

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  11. tidho

    Hopefully they are smart enough to realize the only reason Obama support is softening is because Hillary is undermining him.

    Its like she's walking around with a hose pointed in the air trying to sell umbrellas.

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  12. Ted in Chicago

    I read some tracking polls toady on my own (Gallup and Rasmussen)

    The shift is huge

    NOTE: It takes till today Thursday for things to reflect Sunday and Monday issues as the polls are 3-4 day rolling average polls

    Now we get to see if it reverses again? (Look on Satruday or Sunday)

    But the most recent shift - to HRC - besides TX OH and PA – in the polls is seismic (sp?)

    Something like 8-12 points since April 21 or so on both polls confirming the reality of what has happened

    Amazing (then again in a two person race if one loses 5% the other most often gets 5% - ==== 10% shift - so it is really BO losing 5 and that 5 not going to "other" or undecided)

    Vote DEM whoever whomever it be – and the winds might shift – and if BO can stop his downward free fall – he will be that much a tougher candidate against McCain

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  13. LGriff

    There is no way Hillary is tougher than Obama. Hillary is only tough by throwing unnecessary weight around. Obama is tougher on issues and better judgements. Prime example this week, how she decided to join Mccain on the suspended gas tax. It was a useless decision on her part and let alone to follow up behind a republican party. Obame is a quiet tough, while Hillary likes to make people believe that she is. This country can't have a president like Hillary flip flopping all over place trying to find solutions to mislead the american people. The only reason the polls are dropping for Obama is, not because he's not tough, it's only because of someone else actions(Rev Wright). This does not make for a bad president. American people knows that Obama is no Rev Wright. So Clinton supporters, really sit back and think is this someone we want. This is not the 90's and the world still would not be what the 90's were back than. Bill just got elect at a time when things were n't so bad and upon leaving office
    Bill's baggage went on to President Bush

    Obama 08-2012

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  14. GCG - Austin, TX

    Which candidate is being forced to fight this battle on two fronts? She's certainly not, as the republicans are leaving her alone because they know she'll be so much easier to beat in November. It really is telling that they fear an Obama nomination so much that they have to go after him and leave Hillary alone.

    Make no mistake, they're pretty darn good strategists, those republicans, and they know who is the easier candidate to beat so they maintain control of the white house. That's why they're bashing Obama now, to make sure that the democrats do something stupid to give the republicans a gift in November.

    Of course that's going to have an affect on people's opinions. The supers are smart enough to know that once this is put to bed, the democratic party will come together and this will all be a non-issue.

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  15. Peter

    Also, Clintons gas "plan" is getting some solid beating from her "own". Both the guvernor in New-York (Clinton backer) and mayor Bloomberg oppose it.

    Bloomberg: "It’s about the dumbest thing I’ve heard in an awful long time.”

    Perhapes people in general will open their eyes and see how dumb this summer-tax plan is.

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  16. gerald strother

    SURE CLINTION YOU WILL DO ANYTHING OR SAY ANYTHING TO OVER TURN THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE DO THE (MATH0) YOU HAVE LOST WHY HAS superdelegates THAT has publicly weighed in so far this week. Of those, roughly two-thirds have supported Obama, and one-third have backed Clinton.??? THEY HAVE DONE THE MATH AND THEY KNOW IT IS OVER FOR YOU THEY WONT OVER TURN THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE FOR YOU

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  17. Mohamed Noor, Falls Church, VA

    the Repblicans are scared od the Obama money machine. It is so obvious the country is fatigued by both the Clintons and the Bushes. The dynasty is offically over. I think HRC should drop out gracefully instead of delaying the inevitable because the math is what counts and she is too far behind. Obama's vision is more appealing and that's the danger for McCain. OBAMA 08!!!

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  18. joyce

    oh mr ikes
    did hillary scare you? i guess she did you sound despirate
    to bad

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  19. kisha

    The republican's are giving Hillary the silent treatment for obvious reasons: they know she is a weaker dandidate. They probably have TONS of negative / attack ads ready for her. They know that Obama will be a clear contrast against John McCain, and the cringe at the idea of voters seeing both Obama and McCain on a debate stage.

    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  20. NO-BAMA

    Let's do it

    Go Hillary

    We are voting for her

    She has the country's support


    May 1, 2008 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  21. Obama 08

    As Mr Andrew, the latest Clinton defector to the Obama camp stated, Hillary will do anything to win including destroy the Democratic Party.

    The fact that he also stated that he was prepared for the wrath of the Clintons is another fact that superdelgates and voters need to consider.

    The Republicans haven't even started on her lies and rewritten history. The media has avoided the topics that I am sure the superdelegates are "taking in".

    This letter just underscores the divisiveness her candicy will bring.

    May 1, 2008 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  22. FEDUP

    Only pro-Obama, anti-Hillary get posted????

    May 1, 2008 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  23. Former Republican

    TO ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS- Everyone is asking what this PETER PAUL VS CLINTONS is???? A recently released video shows Hillary Clinton's involvement in potentially the biggest case of election law fraud in United States history, as well as Bill and Hillary Clinton having a part in damaging and ultimately destroying Marvel Comics creator Stan Lee's company and jailing his business partner Peter Paul in an effort to cover up the fraud arising due to a benefit fundraiser held for the Clintons in August 2000.

    It was the largest event ever produced for a US President in Hollywood, it was the largest private concert produced closed to the public and it was the largest fundraising event ever produced for a Senator. It also became a federal crime when Hillary Clinton's campaign hid the source and amount of Peter Paul's $1.2 million plus expenditures for Hillary Clinton's campaign. And that is why the Clintons are being very quiet about this lawsuit in LA Supreme Court!

    Who are the elitest now!?
    Another WHITEWATER for the Clintons! Yea and she is going to beat McCain when he brings this up!

    May 1, 2008 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  24. J.D.

    Howard Ickes reminds me of the Iraqi Information Minister under Saddam - and among younger voters? Can I get some of what he's smoking?

    May 1, 2008 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  25. Anonymous

    I don't think that the superdelegates need Ickes to tell them anything. They do their own research. Maybe they are actually looking at all the current Cinton scandals that CNN and the other MSM are not reporting. They know what is going to happen should Clinton be the nominee. Truckloads and truckloads of baggage will be unloaded by the Republicans. Clinton supporters will be amazed and then perhaps ashamed that they were fooled again.
    I challenge CNN to report on the Paulv. Clinton story. Show the people that you have some integrity left in your news reporting or is Bill Clinton calling the shots for you?

    May 1, 2008 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
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