May 6, 2008
Posted: 03:31 PM ET

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Some have raised the possibility of adding the Clinton-Obama race to Florida and Michigan's local elections this August.
Some have raised the possibility of adding the Clinton-Obama race to Florida and Michigan's local elections this August.

(CNN) — If neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama emerges after the final June 3 primaries with the magic number of 2,025 delegates - a very real possibility if the remaining contests are close - then this presidential nominating battle could indeed continue until the party convention in Denver that begins on Monday, August 25 and continues until Thursday night, August 28.

That would mean potentially a huge credentials fight on the convention floor involving the seating of those disputed delegates from Michigan and Florida, the two states that moved up their primaries against Democratic National Committee rules and were stripped of those delegates as a result.

Party leaders are clearly very worried about alienating Michigan and Florida voters. Both of those states are critical in the November general election against John McCain.

So how do the Democrats a) avoid a convention floor fight, and b) make sure Florida and Michigan voters are not disenfranchised?

Earlier, there had been an effort to get the two states to hold a second round of primaries but that collapsed for a variety of reasons. As a result, the widely-held assumption has been in recent weeks that it is now too late for such a second round of primaries to take place. But is it?

Here's one idea that is now being floated and that potentially could gain some traction though it would require the DNC changing its current rules which state that the primaries and caucuses must be concluded by early June.

Michigan already has a state-wide primary scheduled for August 5 for local and state elections. Florida has a similar state-wide primary scheduled for August 26, the second day of the Democratic convention in Denver. Why not let the two states add a Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama election to the ballots for those two primaries?

Adding that election to the already scheduled primaries for those two dates wouldn't add any additional cost to the states.

They would simply have to print a new ballot.

Is this a good idea? Would it reassure voters in Michigan and Florida that they would have a say in determining the Democratic presidential nominee? Should the DNC allow this to occur? What do you think?

Here's one thing to ponder - think how exciting that Democratic convention in Denver would be if on the second day it all came down to the Florida primary.

Filed under: Wolf Blitzer


John, Miss   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Here is the problem with CNN in a nutshell:

"Adding that election to the already scheduled primaries for those two dates wouldn't add any additional cost to the states."

"They would simply have to print a new ballot."

I guess Wolf and team are paying for all the new ballots?

Darryl   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Let just hold both elections in Jun 10th and let the clinton pay for it.

Alan Boyer   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

again…changing the rules because some don't like the outcome.

Jason   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Obama the FRAUD will never go for two more large states dumping him down the tubes !

Obama says Florida and Michigan DO NOT COUNT.

Obama is a FRAUD

Ready for Change   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Pretty exciting Wolfe!!!!!

sue   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

If this happens, the DEMS will LOSE the general election. What an absurd plan this is.

In augst we will only have 2 months to campain against McCain?!?! How crazy.

Wayne   May 6th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Wolf. Get this in your head buddy. MI and FL will not count because they broke the rules. The penalty of breaking the rules is that they do not count.

Why should the two states who violated the rules make the final decision over who should be the nominee??

Wolf. It's like this. If Hillary cannot win with the rules that were set out before the first votes were cast in Iowa..then she cannot win. The party will not bend over backwards and change the rules just to benefit one candidate or the other. Nice try Wolfe but your lady LOST!!!

HAA HAA HAAA..Watch Obama win NC tonight..this puppy is OVER.

Venus   May 6th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

That won't be happen! We are not going to the convention this year!

FL and MI BROKE the freaking RULES! End of story!

Kay, Goeriga   May 6th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

No… It's only good for the news media.. This race needs to be over soon.

Michael   May 6th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

If Obama wasn't on the ballot on Michigan, then YES…do a revote. If he lost to Hillary fair and square, then Florida should be counted in Hillary's corner.

However, both states broke DNC rules and they have to pay for it. If I were the head of the party, I'd still penalize FL and MI for holding early elections and not have any vote that comes from the two states count. FL and MI would simply have to sit it out while the remaining 48 decided on the next president.

Anonymous   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Reality Check ( which i should have done before ).

MATHAMATICALLY SPEAKING, ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR HILLARY CLINTON TO PULL THIS OFF NOW.

Tiffany   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Blizter just made this up, since when is it the media's job to create political proposals? They broke the rules, they shouldn't put those "party elders" in power again if they don't like what they did. It's the states own fault. Screw Michigan and Florida for thinking they were special and could break the rules, don't reward by them by saying actually it's ok, here go ahead and we'll seat your delegates AND give you the very last votes in a critical election. No thanks.

California Dem   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Why reward them?
Why change the rules?
August….GOD NO!

Sue P / PA   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

They can vote as long as thier votes DO NOT alter the race concluded on June 3rd….Their state governments broke the DNC rules.. period……………. I agree their votes are worth seating the delegates in a FAIR fashion, but, they cannot alter this race. There was enough time to change their dates to within the rules of the DNC……… they still went ahead with it………… sorry, but rules are rules

we dont need to teach our children that "rules are made to be broken"

Voice of Reason   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

They made their beds…..

Eileen from Portland, Maine   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

It would be exciting from the media standpoint. They wouldn't have to spend money to pay anybody to actually do any indepth investigating in order to thoroughly tell a story. They could find something controversial about one of the candidates and just keep replaying distorted segments over and over until people who thought it was nothing begin to believe it is some huge story otherwise why would the media be so obsessed with it. Then they can spend another month or so reporting on peoples reactions to it.

Matthew   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Well, in that case we might as well give the Nomination to Hillary. Its like playing cards or any game. Once you know the cards (the likely out of Flo and Mig primary) then continue playing as if you don't know it, you are actually cheating. Clinton should not have waite until the cards are played then to call for Florida and Mig.

VA

Matthew   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Democrats think they lost the General Election in 2000 because of Florida. Not seating the delegates would probably cause a voter uproar in the General Election and lose the democrats the White House in 2008.

The democrats are throwing their voters for a loop, which is hurting the party. They say having two candidates is hurting the party? What about the DNC ignoring voters?

I'm a democrat. But, my party is ticking me off to the point where the Republicans, with their open door, and their cool composure, are looking inviting…

Glenn Norton   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

You must be one of the few Liberals who really wants this thing setted at the convention. These two will never hug and work hand in hand. Bet on it.

shan   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

as a florida voter, i'm not disenfranchised at all. it was our state gov't that did the harm, not the democratic party. our gov. knew there would be a penalty for his actions yet he did it anyway in an effort to sway the rest of the country.

no more crist!

mama4obama   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Oh heck no. You would love that wouldn't you Wolf. Not happening. The DNC made the rules long before the race ever started. The ones that should be held accountable are the officials responsible in Florida and Michigan. Those votes should not be counted because those states chose to break the rules.

END OF STORY!!!!!

John Sewell   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Who's floating this idea? The article never mentions the source. Is this just a Wolf Blitzer scheme or do either of the candidates wish this? Howard Dean gave a very clear explanation of why things are the way they are on the Daily Show last week. It boils down to this: We have rules. We're following the rules. We are also humane and will find a way to make sure both Florida and Michigan are present at the convention.

Why can't we just leave it at that? If there's one state in the union that needs a hard-knocks lesson in how to vote properly, it's Florida. Maybe some tough love is exactly what they need right now.

Michelle   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

You fail Wolf Blitzer. This is an obvious attempt to "create" news so that you and the other networks get more ratings. This is a TERRIBLE IDEA for the Democratic Party. Let it play out by the current rules without Florida and Michigan chumps who jumped the gun with their primaries. End of story.

voter in AR   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

NO MORE LETTING EVERYTHING RIDE ON FLORIDA!

Haven't we gotten enough of all the, voting rights violations, hanging chads and court cases?

Sheeesh!

Jay in Houston   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Florida and Michigan should be added on one condition - if Obama is still leading in pledged delegates after adding the two, superdelegates should pledge to him, regardless of how narrow the pledged delegate margin becomes.

Maurice   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Yikes. The SECOND day of the convention?? that's ridiculous. Since the elections can't be decided without super delegate approval (and it's that way by design), the super delegates will decide before the convention and make FL irrelevant. Arguably. It already is. If you use pledge delegates as you metric, MI and FL aren't enough for Hillary. Popular vote is flawed since 4 states haven't even released their totals. Also, it depends on how you count it in Michigan. Even if you use delegates from FL and Michigan as is (as long as you give Hillary all the uncommitted delegates), Obama will win.

PK   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Shut up Wolf… you and your dragging accent

Ryan H   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

If the main problem is organization and money problems, and they are desperate to seat MI and FL, why not have online voting? Use Driver's Licenses and such to get your chance to vote and then tally the online votes. It may not be the most effective or traditional method, but it could give a fairly accurate representation of what the voters want if they are desperately looking to seat MI and FL. A tiny problem would be the lack of computer access, so I suppose there would need to be a few hubs where citizens without computer/Internet access could go to vote.

Just a thought.

Yes we can!   May 6th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Bad idea….how about the voters put the blame on where it belongs….ON THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS….how about we practice what we preach and follow the rules….how about the people of florida and michigan take to the streets of their local capital and city hall and protest there…it's not anyone's fault but of their local government as to the situation their in….Both Obama and Hillary agreed to the rules and it clearly shows the integrity of a person who is willing to use this for advantage or disaventage of the other candidate because it's convenient…..SHAME ON FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR BEING SO FAST AND THINKING HILLARY WAS GOING TO RAP THIS UP BACK IN JANUARY!….IOWA SPOKE AND THE REST OF US ARE SPEAKING NOW,,,,,OBAMA 2008/2012

Mark   May 6th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Wolf,

That's a really dumb idea.

Mark

CW in DC   May 6th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Sounds about as fair a plan as any but if this thing lasts until August, I may be on meds!!!!!!!

Mike, Raleigh   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

We are the oldest democracy and that is the way to go. You can not cheat florida/Michgan voters. They need to be counted.

Hillary is fact and Obama is act.

Kathy Ritch   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

It would be divine (as in sublime) justice to have the nomination hinge on Florida down to the proverbial wire. The DNC wants to annoint a candidate long before the convention, however, so don't look to Howard Dean to sanction a change in rules to allow for a revote in August. He'd rather see the Democrats lose the Presidential election to the Republicans than give up on his attempt to insure that Obama is the candidate. Dean will "pack" all the Committees and add more Super Delegates to get his way. Who cares if it destroys the Party?

Sharon   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

There goes Wolf. Stiring the pot as usual. Why don't you just tell the news instead of making it up as you go along.

PA_Hill-fan   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Yes, it is definitely a good idea to have primaries again in Michigan and Florida,.

Karla   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

I cannot believe they are still talking about these two states. The states did what they did and they should pay the price. Hillary and Obama neither one cared about them when this happened early on because Hillary presumed she would be the absolute nominee. Now that those votes really mean something to her, she sees importance in it. Obama would have to agree so Hillary wouldn't get one up on him by cheating again!

Richard   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

That would be a slap in the face to the 48 states that ran their primaries by the rules. Michigan and Florida approved these rules and then broke them; why should they be rewarded for doing so?

masgap   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Fl and Michigan should be heard. this is America where all 50 states

should have a say. It could be done and should be done!!!

andrew in denver   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Why not? Because we cannot afford to wait until late august and continnue the bitter and negative campaign that HRC is running to continue to grind down our possible unity.

"Here's one thing to ponder - think how exciting that Democratic convention in Denver would be if on the second day it all came down to the Florida primary." - wolf

Only the republicans want that. No it is a bad idea, changing rules because you are losing is always a bad idea, i learned that in kindergarten.

Robert in Toronto,ON   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Do the Democrats want to wait till the end of August to have their nominee??

That will give them…what? 4 weeks to heal the party and go after McCain and the Republican machine?

Trust me, this nominee WILL be decided by June 10th, if not sooner.

And the winner will be… Senator Barack Obama.

so ironic   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Wolf,

This has all gone too far. If the DNC would need to change its rules to have a re-vote in Michigan and Florida, why establish rules in the first place. Again, this is changing the rules during the game which, I'm sorry to say, is unfair to BOTH candidates.

Also, it would only give the nominee two months to get ready for the general. This is a recipe for failure for the Dems. We need to end this race ASAP and get behind Obama who will win this race on a level playing field. Why drag this pointless prcess on when Clinton can't overtake him?

Mike   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Under the 14th amendment of the constitution their primaries are legal. They just broke a two year old DNC rule is all.

However even if they would have waited a couple of weeks it would have still strongly gone for Hillary anyway. Obama's numbers were very low during the time that Florida and Michigan were "supposed" to hold their primaries.

Dave - Minneapolis   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

No. The party doesn't want to wait until August, and Hillary isn't going to win anything.

MI and FL: Learn from your mistake, and try not to screw it up next time.

Valerie   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Wolfe,
That's a very good idea. It would be an even better idea if they moved the august dates up to early July to still give locals time to campaign, but also that this doesn't drag on any longer.

As long as the Democrats are battling, John McCain has free reign to campaign all over the country without real opposition. I don't think the Democrats want him to go uncontested for so long, or want to have only 3 months before the Novemeber election to campaign.

Operation Chaos is doing it's job well.

kathleen retired Professional w/woman for obama   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

If she wins tonight, because 100,000 Republicans voted for Her
thanks To Rove, Limbaugh and Hannity, then it she won't give a
hoot about Fla. and Michigan.

Lee WV   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Boy the media would sure like to drag this on til August or Sept.I guess this would make it a little less unfair to hand the nomination to Hillary.Why be afraid to follow rules.Hey let's have another Super Bowl in Sept to see if New England can win.

Jeanne from Michigan   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

As a resident of Michigan, I would to have our voices heard, but am not thrilled about having to wait until August settle this race. I say split the delegates 50-50. It is the ONLY fair way to resolve this. Michigan's "Primary" was such a sham and everyone knew it. So many people stayed home in protest of our idiot Govenor making us such laughing stocks of the nation. And Jennifer Granholm (Michigan's Gov) is also State Chair for Clinton campaign. Everyone smelled a rat.

The Dude   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Sorry, Wolf. It may be exciting to you, but I need to know who my candidate is before August 26′th. That only leaves two months to bring the party back together. Look at how heated this whole thing has gotten now, just wait until the convention.

Obviously you guys benefit the most out of this, when it comes to ratings. Sellouts.

I'd like Obama, but seriously…
ANYONE BUT MCCAIN '08!

seth   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

THEY BROKE THE RULES….I AGREE TEACH THE CHILDREN….GROW UP AND LEARN THAT THE RULES WERE
BROKEN TOO BAD FOR FL AND MICH…. END OF STORY…OBAMA
WINS AND HILLARY SHOULD BE GRACIOUS AS OBAMA HAS BEEN
A GENTLEMEN …TEACH THE KIDS…PLEASE!!

wwf   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Are you nuts? Wolf. Are you afraid that you won't have anything to talk about? Maybe you want to see the Democratic Party come to an end. It has to end soon. If this keeps up all summer, there will be no party left. The Democrats have already loaded the gun for political suicide and will be pulling the trigger after June 1st. Any hope for the party rests in bringing it back together. That cannot be done between August and November. I must say that the media has done the best job in recent history of helping creating this mess with you thirst to tell the voters what you think is important instead of sticking to the issues that mattter. Just the humble opinion of an Independent who is tired of the media creating the new instead of just reporting and the Deomcratic Party acting like 3 year olds.

John Smith,TX   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Hold a new primary was the right way to fix the problem but Obama and his camp opposes because he is leading in delegates count. Obama is accusing everybody of using a old politics but obama is double talk himself. If the DNC think that they can cheat Hillary by pushing her on the side they need to congratulate MCcain for the presidency. The only lead Obama is enjoying is the lead he's got from causes. Causes are not democratic. Will will see who will laugh at last if process is unfair. Clyburn needs to ahead and endorses Obama with all his talk. Obama is Black go ahead and endorse him.

BAKERSFIELD   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

the reason they need to change the rules is because nobody will achieve the needed delegates to nominate. they will both fall short the rules don't read the closest to 2025. come on you people be sensible

Liberty   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!

Rules are rules- Florida and Michigan knowingly broke the rules. If the residents of that state are unhappy, they should call for the ouster for the governor and all the state legislators who voted to go against party rules since this is THEIR FAULT!!!

You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Anyone who thinks so is a SORE LOSER!!!

David   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Wolf, Michigan and should be heard !!

vic nashville,Tn   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

To my understanding only3 people know how important the Florida votes
1) Karl Rove
2) G.W.Bush
3) Al Gore
So they have to answer your questions

Just fed Up with the Clintons   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

I do not think the DNC should include Florida or Michigan votes. The situation and circumstances were known by every executive and consumer participant in this process and yet, the date for the vote was moved up. What just amazes me is that no one is turning their ire towards the decision maker for moving the voting date up!! The DNC did not move the date up, they just advised what the rules and circumstances would be if that happened… well, it did happen, so now who is to blame?? Certainly not the DNC. Why should the DNC be held accountable for the Republican's decision??

Also, I can clearly speak for myself as I am from Florida, Floridians turned out because there was a very important item on the ballot for our state as well as our county. No one is speaking about why people turned out to vote, we knew our votes were not going to count in the primary.

Dylan   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

It's useless to even report this except to get Hillary's supporters hopes up. Oh, wait, Wolf is a Hillary supporter…

Tjaye   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

I say split the votes 55/45 and be done. She only got 55% of the votes even when she was uncontested. Don't count it as a win in her column, just count the delegates. After all, Clinton claims that her only concern is that those voters have their votes count. The delegates can count, but she can't put the states in her pocket.

Obama O-8!

charles   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

WOLF GO AND DO IT YRSELF U R OBSESSED WITH YR QUEEN. WE R TIRED OF YR MIN GAMES. EVERY DAY U SPEAK
I HATE U MORE.

so ironic   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

FL and MI were penalized for breaking the rules. Now you want them to be the states that will be THE deciding factor in the nomination?

Those contests were unfairly contested!

This wreaks of corruption!!

Jonathan   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

If this goes to convention Obama loses. This is the best option for him. Also, I think it's important to note that if this were the general election, Obama would be losing by almost 200 votes by now because it is a winner take all system. Remember, the way the Democratic primary is run it helps someone like Obama because he can clip a large amount of votes that Clinton gets in the big states. He won't have this kind of fallback in the general election and when he loses Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania he will lose the election. Wake up Obamabots. It's kind of like the round-robin thing when you beat someone, that person beats someone else, and the person they beat beats you…who is really the best? The important thing here is who will beat McCain and the only person that can do that is Hillary, not Barack. Just because he may have more pledged delegates at the end of the day does not mean that he can beat McCain. This is why there are superdelegates, to do what is right for the party. Obama himself said he would accept what the party says as long as it is within the rules, and superdelegates deciding the nominee is well within the rules. I don't want to hear anymore talk about stealing the nomination from Obama.

DJ   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Why do people always want to change the rules to suit them? Both states were aware of the rules, both states chose to break them. If voters in those states are "disenfranchised," then I recommend that they get new party leaders that will follow the rules and not screw it up for the voters in their state.

Rebecca   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Wolf is an obvious Clinton supporter. He has been pressing hard for her without coming out and clearly saying it. His posts here clearly tell Wolf wants this race to go on and on so Hillary can possibly pull it out. Wolf, you are sad.

A .J in Fla   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

YES…!!!!!

Nick - Arlington, VA   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

YEs so you guys can get 3 more months of ratings as obama and clinton do a death march to a Florida primary in late August……..are you insane? maybe its that little beard you keep ridiculously trimmed on your face…..or the fact that your on tv idk…10 hours a day…they will be seated on MAy 31st (hopefully)…MI should be split 50/50 (Obama wasnt on the ballot) and FL should have 50% divided like the primary vote and the other 50% divided down the middle…with only the popular vote counting in FL, if at all….but at the end of the day Obama will still be winning and Clinton will be moving the goal posts until Kingdom come.

R.I.F.   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Once again Wolf shows his love for everything Clinton.

Look idiot, The rules were set and all parties agreed to them before this race started. We cannot change the rules that everyone agreed to because we are trying to help someone out who is fighting a losing battle.

How about this, let's get the NY Gaint and New England Patriots back on the field to play one more quarter of the Superbowl to decide the winner of the Superbowl that's already been decided until the rules of the NFL. I'm sure the Pats would love that.

Report NEWS…not fariy tell scenarios to help your girlfriend out.

Mark   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

This is really a ridiculous suggestion. The party will not do this so close to the general election.

silence do good   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

YES! Let's include the people of ALL states. I know Obama thought he got away with denying the revote. But it is time for justice and fair play. Let 'em vote - see what they have to say.

The people of this country are bigger than the cult. And we like to think for ourselves and not be called racist or be called foul names for not marching in lock step.

Hang in there Hillary - Obama's chickens will come home to roost!

Larry   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

This would only prolong the inevitable. While I have empathy for those in Michigan and Florida, we need to end this race — now.

BAKERSFIELD   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

it would be changing the rules if somebody wins the nomination without achieving the 2025 to nominate.

LT for Obama   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I say hold new elections and soon OR split the pledged delegates between the two candidates evenly.

I watched last night as many said they did not go out in Florida and vote because they were told it would not count. You CANNOT disenfrancise those people who wanted to vote but were told they would not count if they did. They were just following the rules as one lady said.

Play fair or don't play at all. Isn't that what we tell our children all the time? So as adults, why does this logic go out the window?

EC   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Wolf, Are you out of your mind?! Yep, that would sure shore things up - Not!

I can't believe you would even mention such an absurd idea… Did Hillary put you up to this? ;-)

Cammi317   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I say go for it…it won't make a bit of difference anyway. Obama is still going to win. After today the supers will weigh in, and he will reach the magic number. Next time if they want their votes to count, they should play by the rules.

Gregg Gallagher   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I would be much more receptive to Hillary (and Wolf's) lamenting for the fate of FL and MI voters, if they had done so prior to it becoming clear that Hillary was trailing….

Hillary's position, although entirely self-serving, is quite understandable froma purely self-interest standpoint.

What is not clear is why a theoretically "neutral" journalist (Wolf) continues to take such a strong pro-0Hillary stance on this - and other issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think Wolf - like any other American - is entitled to his own personal political leanings. But PUH-LEASE - the notion that journalists can and should be neutral is absurd. I would much rather have journalists proclaim their leanings publicly so that viewers/readers can weight their observations accordingly.

And don't get me started on George S. over at ABC…..

charles   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Wolf
is not only a supporter his working fr her.

SC for Hillary   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

We need to hold a primary for Fl and Mi right after the June 3 primaries
or before that day, the reason why we haven't had it is because Obama refused to have it, he would rather disenfranchised those voters, What is he afraid of A SCARED MAN CANNOT WIN., He will lose the general election even if he think it is okay to not count those votes, in fact even if those votes are counted and he is the nominee, The REPUBLICANS will keep the White House, Obama has no substance, he is an empty suit, we need a president that is experience, there is no room for Training Wheels in the White House.

Joe   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

I think this a great plan, it would not cost the tax payer anymore dollars and solve this major problem for the folks in Florida and Michigan. the one thing that will help keep it fair is DO NOT allow any campaigning period in either state, this would keep both canidates from blowing another 10 to 15 million trying to buy everybodies vote.
Great Idea ever came up with

Dianne   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Wolf and comany are just stirring up more stupidity. Seriously, these media people are trying to subvert democracy. Is anybody taking them seriously anymore?

Joyce in Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

After attending the recent Washington DNC rally on 4/30/08, I would prefer our votes be counted from the January 29th primary results. If a redo needs to be done for our votes to be counted, I agree that both candidates names should be put on the August 26th ballot. There would be no additional cost (except reprinting of the ballot) and there might even be a better turnout than on January 29th. I also would like to see the candidates campaign here this time. I believe that if this is done for August 26th voting, the results will hopefully show a stronger support for Hillary Clinton and that this contest will be over and Senator Obama will concede. I can only hope that she will be our nominee. I still support her 1000% and look forward to seeing her in the White House. GO HILLARY 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Venus   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

This crap regarding MI election in August 2008 has more to do with the Republicans party and not the Democrates!

Rules are rules and laws are laws!

What part of english is the Clintons thugs are having trouble with?

It's time for Hillary to pack it up! Also - We are not going to the convention this year!

Go Obama!

Here's the real question - if this freak-show was the other way and Obama was behind - what do you think Hillary and her supporters and thugs think?

Sharon in Mi..   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

This is why people get upset and start writing in caps. Why should the rules be changed for the Clintons to get the results that they want. We started out as a party with an agreed upon set of rules, stick to them. Anything else will be recognized as wresting the nomination from Barack Obama. He has played by the rules and earned it.

Earl   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

I say let the Superdelegates decide this thing.

Anyways, once Hillary wins Indiana today and comes within 5% in North Carolina, it will strengthen her case even more.

When she crushes him in West Virginia and Kentucky, well, I just don't see how Obama is even viable anymore.

Momentum is clearly on Hillary's side and its clear that Obama is not the Knight in Shining Armor many initially thought him to be.

On the basis of who's more electable NOW, it clearly is Hillary Clinton.

Actually, the mudslinging has switched sides and now its the Obama people crying foul and flinging insults like accusing Hillary of pandering.

Oh my how things have changed…

Yes, SHE can!

Hillary '08!

Donna   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

No. Just no. If a state decides it's not going to play by the rules and they were told what would happen if they went ahead with their plans, no way on earth should the rules be changed for them.

Anonymous   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

As I have said in many many posts you are not fair enough to post "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer.How does your garden grow.Laughable journalist ethics.

jim   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Michigan and Florida already voted. Not seating their delegates is a SCAM by the left wing of the party and it will come back to haunt them. This is not Zimbabwe!!! Let the votes count!!!

Nick   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Let them vote.
Nobody needs Obamas agreement for this.
After all this is democracy and everybody's vote should count.

Indiana Dem   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Nice try Wolf but this thing will be over tonight after Clinton loses both states. I am looking forward to watching Wolf and Carville cry.

CNN, Post this.

Eddie   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

I am from Florida and feel if the rules were set and agreed upon by all candidates,including Hillary Clinton,why would we go back and try to change the rules now.In any competition there are rules,and if you brake them you taint the end result,so florida and Michigan are done for this primary season,get over it.

Tex Dem   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Can you imagine the nightmare scenario of leaving it all up to Florida, when the dimwits in that state couldn't get it right in 2000? What makes anyone think they'd get it right this time?

Manu   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Why does Wolf so concerned about FL and MI. It is for a long time he started talking about them. Is he a supporter of one of the candidates? Hey, I am not calling a name here.

Rob -BC Canada   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

As I have said in many many posts you are not fair enough to post "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer.How does your garden grow.Laughable journalist ethics.

Tom   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

No.

Kevin   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Would someone fire Wolf Blitzer already? His spaceship is obviously not returning to this planet anytime soon.

Berkeley Guy   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Sure. Anything so that the voters of both states can vote and have their votes count.

New Democrat   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

This is an interesting idea, however, I am very afraid that waiting until August to select the nominee will not provide enough time prior to the general election and will thereby give the Republicans a real advantage.

Sam   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Rules are rules,

Michigan and Florida wanted to be slick and try and make their vote count ahead of others, and they failed.

Now you want to give them the ultimate decision? That's a reward, not a penalty for breaking the rules. If Michigan and Florida were to succeed and get a revote after all of the other primaries, then that tells all of the other 48 states that if you break the rules, you'll get an even better reward in the end.

Kel in Auburn, AL   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

The fact of the matter is that both states broke DNC rules and they knew it. Beforehand. The candidates took their name off of the ballots, except for Clinton in Michigan and Obama & Clinton in Florida. Obama left it up the states to decide, and each state said no.

Obama abides by the rules. The Clintons just think that doesn't apply to them.

This wasn't an issue until Hillary started losing. Stop throwing her lifelines and let her lose fair and square.

Andy   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

What they should do is award 1 delegate to Hillary for Florida and 1 delegate to Hillary for Michigan. This accomplishes a couple of things. 1) The delegates get seated. 2) Both states get punished.

On the other hand, If MIchigan and Florida get to revote, the DNC should pay for Edwards to reenter the race since he would still have been a candidate. And whatever his vote total and apportioned delegates are, he can then give them to whomever he wants.

Case closed.

Dilly Wa   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

What about the rest of the states who waited their turn. MI and Fl were not put in front because the DNC wanted lower-income and minorities to have a fair say. It is Clinton who wants to cherry pick voters. Splint it 50/50 and get on with it or we'll lose to MCCain. August is way too late! We all need to remember what happened this time and be sure the DNC fixes the system before the next election.

@americans   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

WOLF, WE GET IT!…YOU ARE DIGGING DEEP TO SEE IF HILLARY CAN STILL PULL THIS OFF!

GAME OVER - OBAMA WON, GET IT?!

WATCH YOUR BACK WOLF; YOU MIGHT BE SHOWN THE DOOR SOON WITH YOUR BIASED REPORTING!!!!

MD   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

They broke the rules. It's just that simple. Hillary is trying to steal this election. Here's a solemn promise from a young Democrat and I hope you are reading this, Howard Dean, since you are the DNC head:

You must take the lead and force Hillary to bow out of this election because she cannot win it without stealing the election. If she wins, you will alienate a majority of the youthful Democratic party. Who do you think is going to carry on the liberal mindset?

Fear the youth - we have energy and plenty of time. We will forge a new political party that isn't corrupted.

GL   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

So RULES don't matter? For Christ's sake CNN how obviously biased are you going to continue to be? Every story has a photo of Clinton, even her sign in front of Obama's on the one, and now dregging up this garbage… Don't even get me started on Wolf's daily stump speech for Clinton he masquerades as a news story. Absolutely shameful.

They broke the rules that everyone already agreed too. There are no do overs. Move on.

Alex   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Its simply too late. The last thing this party needs is to have this heated contest extend past June and potentially divide the democrats even further so close to the general election. It’s already gone on long enough as it is. Hillary needs to stop stoking the last ruminants of her campaign and risk hurting the party. She simply needs to look beyond herself for a brief moment and step down.

Dyinglikeflies, NYC   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Real smart to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan, two swing states which can determine the election against McCain. Would it have been that hard to follow the Republican solution of seating only half the delegates as a penalty?

The Democratic party is a circular firing squad.

SHIRLEY   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Sounds reasonable to me. A great idea.

JC   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

If DNC had taken FL and MI out, they should have reduced the number of delegates required for nomination.

Why is DNC still pondering at 2,025 delegates?
If 2,025 is a wrong number, correct it now.

shawn   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

You may be the dumbest excuse for a journalist, I have ever encountered. Again stirring up controversy where it doesn't exist. For crying out loud. Go host a game show and let real journalists report the news. The rules were stated, and you heard them as everyone did.

HP Boston   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

YES, yes a thousand times yes.
Let's make this fair, all must be part of this primary.
We need to balance the caucus fiasco's and let two important states VOTE!
If you call this early with less than all the votes you lose immediately.
The Obama people do not want to be fair, they never do.

Simply Crazy!!!   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

To not have a democratic nominee until August is totally ridiculous! Who would ever agree to something like this? That would mean a sure victory for McCain.
Keep in mind, the general election is in November and personally, I don't think two months will be enough time to get the democratic party together.

Sometimes I often wonder do news outlets try to come up with the most outrage topics to get more viewers and/or bloggers!

Alice in Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will vote for McCain in November, and NOTHING will change my mind - not 100 years in Iraq, not the overthrow of Roe vs. Wade - NOTHING. The most important issue for me personally is that Barack Obama stole my vote. If that's "Change," I want no part of it. Maybe Barack stole my Florida vote for Hillary, but he will not steal my November vote for McCain.

What Really Happend   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

NO!

Candi California   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Dear Mr. Blitzer;

WE are sorry you and the best are running out of manufactured news. Stop trying to stretch the limits of your alice and wounderland world. You have been able to inpact this presidential election negatively( along with the rest of the media). You need to just pack it in and start reporting the news. I realize that is a difficult concept. However if you can't do that then dress all your pundits in clown outfits and have them discuss how the media screwed this one up.

Mike   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Hillary Clinton signed a pledge not to participate in Michigan and then she broke the pledge by not taking her name off the ballot, as Obama and Edwards did. That makes her a liar and now she wants to benefit from her deception. This isn't about disenfranchising voters. This is about Hillary trying to win by breaking the rules. Hillary - when you say that more people have voted for you in the primaries because you are counting the votes in Michigan, you anger and alienate every single Obama supporter. Anyone who thinks that Michigan should count or that Michigan should re-vote or that Hillary leads in the popular vote is either delusional or being purposely obtuse. Before she started this Michigan nonsense I might have voted for her if she won the nomination, but now I will absolutely not ever vote for Hillary Clinton because of her blatant lies.

Lisa   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

This is so disrespecful for the Obama supporters to say they do not want to include Florida and Michigan votes. Talk about will do and say anything to win. They are like crooks to me. If they are so confident that Obama is going to win why not let everyone votes count. His supporters remains me of the Superior Court in 2000 when they didn't allow Florida votes to count then. They can do and say whatever they want but Hillary will not drop out until those votes are counted and I don't blame her.

Hilda   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Wolf, can you imagine this crap going on for 2-3 more months, are you kidding me. This thing is ugly enough already, this can only help John McCain, can you imagine more time for this joke to go on. Wolf are you a republican, trying to find a cute way to destroy the democrats. We know for sure you don't like Obama,that is Obvious as for Hillary, not sure on that one yet.

nancy   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

NO WAY!

Terry Williams   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

It wouldn't cost anything. Its all electronic on those states with touch screens. Just add two buttons for hillary/obama and a bunch of buttons depending on country, for the delegates. No one pays. Just gotta get people to officiate the voting process, which is already going on for the state and local elections.

Independent   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Wolf - think about "how exciting" it would be if on the second day of the convention it all came down to Florida? Have you lost your mind?!

No one with any sense wants this to go to the convention, because they know the democrats will LOSE in November if it does!!

Does Wolf want the democrats to lose?

leighg1   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Too bad that Obama does not want to engage in a negative campaign. He could have shown the Hillary Bosnia lie footage over and ever again as she did to him on his "bitter" comments. If he did, she would be crushed a long time ago. He did not even mention it unless when asked. I am sure the Republicans would if they need to.

Joyce in Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Also, for some of you bloggers regarding our primary date being moved up to January 29th, it was our REPUBLICAN legislature that did this move; not the DEMOCRATS. Get it straight in your heads once and for all. Our votes should be counted and awarded from our January 29th primary. I am sure if you lived here, this would be your sentiment as well. So stop bashing the Democrats already. It wasn't our fault. GO HILLARY 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Babu   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

That's a great idea! We should some how include the voters of Michigan and Florida. Only Obama is afraid of a democratic process.

Steve   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

How can anyone argue that the folks in those states don't have a right to be heard because of a few "rules" that were made earlier by a few people. That's ridiculous and not fair to the people of those states. Without their votes counting, it will come back to sting the Democtrats in November. That much is a guarantee. Democrats need to come to their senses regarding this issue.

David   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Yes, yes, yes, yes! It will silence the Hillary supporters once and for all AND Barack will reach the needed number of delegates.

I say "Go for it!"

it's all politics   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

what happened to the democratic position from 2000? I thought americans believed that all votes should count. it is ludicrous that fl and mi are not being counted.

folks who are saying these are the rules are just being political. they were probably not saying that in 2000. the rule that said the punishment to fl and mi should be that their votes are not counted is what needs to be changed. in america, the punishment is supposed to fit the crime. if you are saying the rules are the rules, does that mean you think it makes any difference which state votes first? that's the 'rules are rules' position, and it is dumb. i know i am teaching my children to think for themselves, and apply the golden rule, not that "rules are made to be broken."

if obama had won fl, he would be giving pretty speeches about having every vote count, and so would all of his supporters, especially that moron keith olberman

Sam in MN   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Nope. Counting Michigan or Florida in any way is a slap in the face to the 48 states that followed the rules.

The more this is discussed, the more the people in the other 48 states get soured on it.

If Michigan or Florida end up counting in any way, shape, or form, I'll vote for John McCain, and so will many others here.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Yes, why not let Michigan and Florida have their say in determining the Democrat nominee and risk the losing the other 48 States in the general election that played by the rules and are more vital in the general election. So the idea of 2 verses 48 States makes no sense.

Mel Springfield, Oregon   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

This race is not ending soon. Neither side will back down. They're just making it easier for McCain to win in November.

Amy from MIchigan   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

My state's party officials broke the rules and unfortunately, it's we the voters who have lost out. I'm not upset with the National Democratic Party or the candidates who followed the rules, just our own ridiculous state leaders! As much as I would like my voice and choice heard (Obama), I do not think our delegates should be seated. We broke the rules and now we need to live with the consequences! The country is tired of hearing Michigan and Florida residents whine……..

Concerned Voter   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Not counting the votes for two states is the equivalent to communism. Hold the elections and make this right. It is deplorable that this situation is allowed to occur and even worse when Obama, a presidential candidate, support this course of action. So much for new politics. He worse than all of them.

Jack   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

If we were to change the rules, we might as well change the rules on all those who have broke the law. What are we telling the young voters who trust the system. They have been told to follow the rules from day one. If the party elders change the rules, there will be not respect for the Democratic party. Maybe that's what theyare trying to do. Hillary was a Republican at one time. Her view on the Gas tax suspension makes me question if she really is a democrat. She is siding with John McCain. She even thinks that John McCain would be a better president than Obama. And she wants to Obliterate Iran if they were to attack Ireal. Where is the dipomacy. This is not good.

Pete   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Wolf,
Please try to discuss your biased views with at least a modicum of common sense.
Obama has been thouroughly disadvantaged by the "vote" in Michigan and Florida. It is now completely impossible to get a free and fair vote in either state!
The only way this issue can be resolved is if the superdelegates and Obama's own lead in pledged delegates, can cover the Michigan and Florida delegations on some reasonable basis reflecting Clinton's "wins" in those states. Obama would still be getting sc—wed but he would still be the winner!

bruce patras new york ny   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

wolf
this is a fake news story placed besides real news articles .
you are the one bringing these things up .yet you have no outrage
at all the rules hat were broken .and all those voters will still be democrats come november .
duh

TKD   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Why should the party change its rules, when the rules were fair and clear to begin with? Only because Hillary Clinton is frantic to win, and doesn't care whether it takes changing the rules, cheating the rules, or flinging the rules off a cliff, to do it. Florida and Michigan have had ample time to fix their non-compliant primaries. They have been on notice for months. The rules should not be changed in the middle of the process.

Chris   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

You have got to be kidding me. Are the democrats trying to elect John McCain? You can't leave the question of who the nominee is unanswered for the entire summer and expect to win. Strategy plans need to be drawn up, staff hired, the loosers supporters need time to come down a bit and stop making voodoo dolls of the winner, etc. THIS CAN'T HAPPEN IN 2 MONTHS IF YOU EXPECT TO BEAT MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!! Why won't people get this idea through their thick skulls.

Patrice   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Gosh, Wolf
It appears that you just won't be happy until your canidate gets a revote in FL and MI. To tell you the truth, it really isn't the fault of the voters. It's the politicians (in particular in FL) that can't ever seem to get it right. Maybe the voters should be looking for new leadership in those states.
Thier party leaders broke the rules…PERIOD
Move on already, just evenly seat the delegate3 in MI since Obama's name wasn't on the ballot and give a 53-47 split to Clinton and Obama for FL;with Hillary getting the larger portion in FL. Stop wasting people's time and money with this.

duane   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

"An effort to get the two states to hold a second round of primaries collapsed for a variety of reasons".

Those reasons being the Obama camp did not want these states to hold new primaries. They know that Hillary would win by margins bigger than the first round of primaries.

tidho   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

We get it, you like Clinton.

What about Poland?, lol. Maybe there should be a primary there too. Sure the pre-negotiated rules that everyone agreed to said US only, but I don't see any reason that 90% of the way through we can't toss those rules out the window and and some additional primaries.

Ready for Change   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

For all of you who don't even know what the rules are:

The rules called for Florida and Michigan to lose half their delegates, just like the Republican rules. Howard Dean decided to strip all of them instead, thereby breaking the rules or making up his own as he went along.

The rules call for anyone campaigning, in person or on the airwaves, to be stripped of all their delegates, therefore Obama should lose all of his, as he broke the rules by running ads in Florida.

So if you want to keep screaming rules, please at least bother to find out what the rules are.

There is absolutely NO rule saying whoever is ahead in pledged delegates gets the nomination, that would be another changing of the rules.

NObama   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Here is the thing Obama-bots. He cannot win either. It's not whoever is in the lead, it's who ever achieves 2,025 delegates. It is impossible for either of them to do.

Yes let them re-vote. If not let the super delegates decide for who is most electable in November… Which I believe is Hillary.

Bob (PA)   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

New elections change the game and would not be fair…

1.) Everyone had a chance to put their name on the Michigan and it's not Senator Clinton's fault that Obama didn't care enough to do it.

2.) Both states did vote based on their election dates. Again, not Senator Clinton's fault that Obama was still a nobody at that point.

It's 2000 all over again.

Every vote MUST be counted for it to be valid US election. If we just decide which votes count and which ones do not then we are no longer a democracy.

And if you revote then it's not the same. The results will be different. As would all the states if they revoted.

Would every state now vote for Obama or would the trend continue for states to show their support for Senator Clinton. If you revote then Clinton could easily be ahead.

Fight it out at the convention and get over it.

RON   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

I live in FLORIDA and i didnt vote b/c i knew our votes did not count and i am an OBAMA supporter… I dont think we shoud have to revote… the dnc of fl and mi broke the rules… simple as that they should not count… if they need to be than,.,,, they need to be split evenly 50/50

steveg   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Blitzer is looking more and more like a total political hack and a tool every day. Each time he tries to torture logic and math to justify somehow awarding Hillary the nomination, it makes CNN look as biased as FOX news.

It's becoming more and more transparent, not that it was ever concealed very well.

I used to think those to dubbed CNN the "Clinton New Network" were exaggerating to try to push a far right agenda, but, it does seem that a lot of the talking heads are bending over backward to talk up Hillary, and not calling her out on much of anything.

david, Omaha - NE   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Bravo Wolf,
You want riots, right!!
Poor Hillary, she will be bend the rules to be the advocate of fairness.
And YOU, media, you lovin'it.
But it AIN"T RIGHT.
Rules are Rules. Respect them and we will have no FIGHTS….

Chut Pata   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Billary would only accept results where Obama's name wasn't on the ballot or where he has not contested. However it is an excellent idea.

Obama has to accept the results where his name was on ballot and and where he was given a fair chance to contest, because even if he loses with a slight margin overall, he can still get the required delegates.

Billary should be happy on a consolation win like PA and IN, though I doubt it!

Tim   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

You see the sign that says speed limit 65 MPH. You decide that doesn’t apply to you and you want to get home earlier, so you drive 80 MPH. You get pulled over for speeding. You tell the State Trooper that you knew that the speed limit was 65, but you decided that those rules don't apply to you. You are now appalled that the State Trooper now has the gall to give you a ticket just because everyone else obeyed the rules. You go on to say that the State officials were wrong in the first place to dictate how fast you can drive. And finally you question the State Trooper’s ability to enforce such an unfair law and demand that he tear up the ticket and apologize for hindering your driving right. Sounds silly? So does allowing FL and MI to do a revote.

skoolzdateacha   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

HOW ABOUT THIS, THE ONLY FAIR THING WOULD BE WHEN IT IS OVER JUNE 3RD OR WHATEVER SEAT THE DELEGATES FROM BOTH STATES ACCORDING TO POPULAR VOTE PERCENTAGE, HOW ELSE WOULD IT BE FAIR OR MAKE SENSE. I LIKE HILLARY BUT I AM SO UPSET THAT SHE WOULD INSIST ON TRYING TO FIGURE A WAY TO STEAL AN ELECTION. ASK HER HUSBANDS VICE PRESIDENT-STEALING ELECTIONS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS DO!

Addis - observer   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Here comes Blitzer again for his favourite candidate Hillary R. Clinton. U know why Michigan & Florida are not in play.

Blitzer, i thought u are like an anchor… i mean … we expect a lot from u guys… this is really not fair… I Read all ur articles… they r always to incline / influence people that Hillary should b the winner. But that is not really true. U know that better than anyone there. Please don't do that… U will b ashamed of what u did after a while.

Much respect,

Just an observer..

AMBER   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

WHAT MATTERS IS THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. HAS THE DNC BECOME SO INFLEXIBLE THAT IT WILL NOT LISTEN TO ITS MEMBERS? BY OBAMA BLOCKING THE WILL OF MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA USING THE RULES EXCUSE , HE WILL HAVE ACHIEVED IN HANDING FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN TO THE REPUBLICANS IN A SILVER PLATER. WE ARE ALL DEMOCRATS AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SILENCE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA. LET THEM SPEAK!!! IS OBAMA SO AFRAID THAT HE IS GOING TO LOOSE (AGAIN) IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN???
"WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THAT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN'S VOICES BE HEARD!!!!!!

Terry Frakes   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

This is the fairest thing they could do. It would really determine who is electable in november. Its not fair to the candidates, but most of all its not fair to the voters. Obama has drug his feet on this, and its not very professional on his part. He has no right to claim victory on anything unless these two states are able to vote.

Bubba   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Surely Wolf doesn't get paid for his stupid ideas!

Seth (Jacksonville, FL)   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Voters in Florida and Michigan can still vote for President this fall…but rules were broken and the punishment for doing so was the forfeiture of delegates in the primaries. Both Clinton and Obama knew this going in, and there wasn't a peep out of either about fairness or disenfranchisement of voters until HIllary realized she was getting her tail kicked and needed a way to get some extra votes.

Letting the votes count now is like grounding your kid for sneaking out at night and then, when he complains that it's not fair to ground him for breaking the rules, you take away the grounding and say "You're right, it's not fair to punish for rules we set that you clearly broke. Let's work this out and let you have your way instead."

This is just a desperate tactic. Florida and Michigan voters aren't just going to stay home in November - they are going to go to the ballot box and fill in the bubble next to DEMOCRAT.

RB   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Stop dreaming, Wolf. MI/FL can be seated, but WILL NOT determine the nominee. What would that say to those of us who followed the rules? HRC agreed to the rules. Dead issue. If we lose the general election because those two states go red, so be it! BUT, if they get to vote again, we all get to vote again!

JP SW   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Do you live with your head buried in the sand? Of course both names will, be added to the Aug primary in Michigan…or did the Obamaites not know there was one?

And Michigan is plenty mad at Dean and Pelosi and the DNC. And the Obama man for doing everything possible to block their vote because he's done if MI and Florida gets in the act.

BUT, remember the DNC has to have those states so let there be a FAIR vote.

What do ya say Obamites? How about a fair up front vote. Have you turned green yet?

Justin   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Uh, the states already decided, get over it CNN, Clinton is done and needs a fork up her you know what.

Scott   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Who gives a crap….those idiots bucked the system and lost. People from Florida and Michigan should be blaming their local DNC not the national committee.

RB   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Stop dreaming, Wolf. MI/FL can be seated, but WILL NOT determine the nominee. What would that say to those of us who followed the rules? HRC agreed to the rules. Dead issue. If we lose the general election because those two states go red, so be it! BUT, if they get to vote again, we all get to vote again!

Dean-Mississippi   May 6th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

"Here's one thing to ponder - think how exciting that Democratic convention in Denver would be if on the second day it all came down to the Florida primary." ????????

I am pondering why the entertainment value of the convention should be a deciding factor? I guess it would generate a lot of revenue and viewership for the media outlets. Hmmmmm.

As stated in the other posts, there are consequences to actions that violate agreed upon regulations.

jo   May 6th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

OK kids…
You break the rules and cry and whine hard and long enough…
So you are rewarded and get what you want!
Sounds like a great lesson for our children!
Grow up!

DOUBTING THOMAS   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

MR. BLITZER, I'M SURPRISED THAT A RESPECTED JOURNALIST LIKE YOURSELF, WOULD JUMP ON THE CLINTON BANDWAGON. THE CLINTONS HAVE SOILED THEIR IMAGE, YOU'RE RISKING TAINTING YOURS.

Chipster   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Here's a better idea: figure out an appropriate punishment for the legislators and party wonks who broke the rules and count the votes as they were cast by the voters who did nothing wrong!

It isn't their fault and Chairman Dean is having a fit to end this race before all of the states have voted anyhow, so why didn't he just let all of the states move their dates forward?

As for Michigan, Sen. Obama did not have to remove his name from the ballot. That was not required and it was his poor judgment. It was pure grandstanding on his part.

Splitting the votes 50/50 is the same as not counting them so that's just ignorant. Count the votes. It's the democratic thing to do.

Antonio, Champaign, IL   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Why not let Florida & Michigan count? These voters deserve a right to be heard, and should not be punished because their state leaders decided to move up the date. It was not wise for them to go against party rules, but it also was not wise for the DNC to punish these states. And of course, all you Obama fanatics don't want these states to count because you are afraid this election may tip in Clinton's favor. And of course, you Clinton backers want these states to count, probably without even having a re-vote. I say seat Florida's votes now because they were both on the ballot, and this thing does not need to happen in the middle of the convention, and allow Michigan to revote in August.

Dandelion.   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I'm from Florida and even I think it would be wrong to hold new primaries. We broke the rules, we made the bed and now we must lie in it. Simple as that.

Jan, Knoxville, TN   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Wolf, I believe you are a closet Hillary supporter. I noticed last night you started the Wright stuff again. This race needs to be decided today or at least no later than June 3. Florida and Michigan broke the rules and I think it is too late for another primary. I suggest they just seat them at the convention and that is all. Anything else would not be fair to my candidate OBAMA.

Michigan Male   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

As a Michigan citizen, I can attest to the fact that the governor and legislature said that the DNC was not going to not seat the Michigan delegation. This was before the vote to move the election was taken. Our elected officials made our bed and we must lie in it. But we will not forget in November who invalidated our votes.
Impeach Granholm and reelect no incumbents!

Darren   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I can't believe the Michigan/Florida issue is still being discussed. The rules were broken end of story. Why does CNN continue to give this story legs?

Kareem from Hampton VA   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

This is utterly hilarious I have YET to see a Mi. or Fl voter on this ticker complain about their state not counting! Hillary Clinton made this a campaign issue..this is clearly a legislative issue for the respective states and thats where it should remain! No ONE and I mean NO ONW cared about Mi and Fl until the Clinton Entitlement Bus broke down on Super Tuesday!

Gary   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf, are You being paid by Clintons campaign ? or is this plot just to 'buy' some news for the network…either way CNN should not lay any further claim that they are the 'most trustworthy' news network…its simply not true..CNN is either a wolf in sheeps clothing ( pardon the pun or a greed sucking business entity)

Jean from Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

I have an idea…Why don't MI and FL hold their elections in NOV like the rest of us that way their votes get to count……Enough talk about the MI & FL primaries - it will not happen…What bothers me is that the people in FLorida and Michigan doesn't seem concerened about their votes not counting - but the media does…

jamal   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf Blitzer has ben a strong Clinton surrogate and happens to be a journalist. He needs to embrace ideas of diversity and the fact that a person of color can be a president. There is no need to go back to Florida and Michigan. That chapter was closed long time ago.

Jonathan Lawoyin   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf, you cant fool me, behind that thin vail on your face l can see through your deep desire to have Hillary as the nominee regardless of whichever way it comes. You are shifting the pole again, a rule is a rule. We in Africa normally give some credit to America for been a nation under the of rule of law. Your suggestion has a name, and it is called ' Mugabeism'. Enough of this trash, let the real winner, whoever wins in a fair way have it.

Stephen David   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf… Geez, I'm so disappointed in you. You've become the Geraldo Rivera of network news. CNN is truly beginning to rival Fox News.

Best political team on television? Maybe so… but look at the competition; it's nothing to brag about.

Get Real   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Lets be honest, the party leadership in each of the states broke the rules and NOT the voters. Why are we punishing the voters? This silences an individual’s preference for their party's presidential nomination. You can speak all you want of “they” broke the rules, but "they" are not the voters.

kingsley   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

and wolf you need to stop putting gas in the fire. we no you are pro hillary and anti obama. its no secret so your little post and blogs are favoritized and discriminating

Dan in NY   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Why does every Wolf Blitzer column have the suggested effect of lengthening and dramatizing the primary? Do we think that maybe Wolf has an interest here?

Mike From Merritt Island Fla. A independent voter   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Yes, Why should we penalize the voters. They went to the polls when they were ask to. This year Americans are voting more then they have in years. So we dirty the idea that ones vote does not count in this country. Its not about which candidate wants the votes to count. It is that all American voices should be heard. The votes should count as they were voted in the original primary in Mich. And Florida.

Angela   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Yes they broke the rules - so lets watch Democrats in Florida and Michigan vote Republican in the General because they are angry that their vote did not count in the Primary. Florida democrats did not have a choice - their Republican governor moved up the date.

They voted - let it count…Fine the respective state parties, but don't punish the voter.

Darla from Iowa   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Obama doesn't want the voters counted Wolf. And Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean do what Obama says. They want to lose in the fall again so they are making sure Obama gets in by cheating. Not counting votes , pushing for the superdelegates to take the vote away from the voters and solving the DNC complete stupidity of not counting Florida and Michigan by taking the election away from the voters and not going to the Denver Convention. Why are you guys still saying that you get the nomination if your "ahead". Since when was that a rule. If you don't get to 2208 you do not get the nominee not 2025. Then it goes