May 6, 2008
Posted: May 6th, 2008 03:31 PM ET

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Some have raised the possibility of adding the Clinton-Obama race to Florida and Michigan's local elections this August.
Some have raised the possibility of adding the Clinton-Obama race to Florida and Michigan's local elections this August.

(CNN) - If neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama emerges after the final June 3 primaries with the magic number of 2,025 delegates – a very real possibility if the remaining contests are close – then this presidential nominating battle could indeed continue until the party convention in Denver that begins on Monday, August 25 and continues until Thursday night, August 28.

That would mean potentially a huge credentials fight on the convention floor involving the seating of those disputed delegates from Michigan and Florida, the two states that moved up their primaries against Democratic National Committee rules and were stripped of those delegates as a result.

Party leaders are clearly very worried about alienating Michigan and Florida voters. Both of those states are critical in the November general election against John McCain.

So how do the Democrats a) avoid a convention floor fight, and b) make sure Florida and Michigan voters are not disenfranchised?

Earlier, there had been an effort to get the two states to hold a second round of primaries but that collapsed for a variety of reasons. As a result, the widely-held assumption has been in recent weeks that it is now too late for such a second round of primaries to take place. But is it?

Here's one idea that is now being floated and that potentially could gain some traction though it would require the DNC changing its current rules which state that the primaries and caucuses must be concluded by early June.

Michigan already has a state-wide primary scheduled for August 5 for local and state elections. Florida has a similar state-wide primary scheduled for August 26, the second day of the Democratic convention in Denver. Why not let the two states add a Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama election to the ballots for those two primaries?

Adding that election to the already scheduled primaries for those two dates wouldn't add any additional cost to the states.

They would simply have to print a new ballot.

Is this a good idea? Would it reassure voters in Michigan and Florida that they would have a say in determining the Democratic presidential nominee? Should the DNC allow this to occur? What do you think?

Here's one thing to ponder – think how exciting that Democratic convention in Denver would be if on the second day it all came down to the Florida primary.

Filed under: Wolf Blitzer


Leroy   May 6th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Don't hold a second election. Discount all the MI and FL voters, disenfranchise them, and help hand the presidency to McCain. The Dems can't win the General without those 2 states. I like it!

fred   May 6th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Great Idea!!

Go Hillary!!

Ted in Chicago   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

First Poster

Print the ballotts – that cost is maybe 1/100th of the cost of places people logistics etc

And the DEMS already said – that Jon Corzine of NJ – would find the money or write a check for any and all expenses – when FL and MI first tried to get new primaies

So money is not the issue
It comes down to

is it insane to wait for August?
If NO – then insane to wait for day two of convention? ( Maybe move FL up to day of MI)

And cost – private money pays – the state runs it

Again – recall HRC said count them or revote them and BO sent in the lawyers and stopped it in FL and MI - eventhough all costs would be paid for privately'

How we count ND and SD and WY etc and not FL and MI that can give the election to the REPS is beyond me

AS Dean said a week ago – the delegates will be seated – it is a question of how

Tired of Clinton and Blitzer   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

We get it Wolf, but could I remind you how Hillary was so vocal about the red states Obama won shouldn't count. Look it up Wolfster...Florida and Michigan BOTH went to Bush.

Between your outrageous suggestoins and the Clintons with their goal post moving I have had enough of this campaign. America needs to know who the Democratic nominee is so we can move on with our lives and not keep playing into Hillary's daily soap opera.

Joanna   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

If this will a) avoid a convention floor fight, and b) make sure Florida and Michigan voters are not disenfranchised...I say let's do it!

Dan , TX   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

I think they'll seat FL and MI as the republicans have, at 1/2 size. That will give Hillary a chance if she dominates all the remaining primaries. If the remaining primaries turn out relatively evenly split, MI and FL won't be enough to overcome Obama's lead.

Betty   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Maththe mathamtically it is impossible for Obama to win enough delegates to reach 2025 and clinch the race before voting ends on June 3 either. So why are you Obamabots picking on Hillary saying she is the one who cannot win?

Our flag has 50 stars, not 48. We cannot disenfranchise Michigan and Florida. That's the bottom line!

Matthew Manley, Nashville TN   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

This is a TERRIBLE idea. It saddens me that the media cares more about a good story than the good of our country.

Josh   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Do all of the people (democrats) saying they will vote for McCain if the Fl and MI votes do not count realize they are playing right into the hands of the Republican decision makers in those states? It was the Republican's who made the decision to move the primary up, knowing full well that they were breaking the rules. So if you all want to be pawns go ahead and deliver the election on a silver platter.

Anson From New York   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

This is the worst ridiculous... I have heard!

She knows she's losing. That's an act of desperation! She never expects Obama, the people's champ to rise up the way he does. She thought the country was still in the Dark Age. She's been caught by surprised. Now she wants to change the rules in the middle of the game to favor her. It won't happen... No way!

Ken   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

The solution is not that hard. The only hard part is that anything done at this point makes the party leaders look weak and indecisive for not having done whatever they finally decide to do, at an earlier time. The people voted. Count the votes and award the delegates.

Linda   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Jason, you're calling Obama a FRAUD? A fraud of what? You don't seem to get it. Right up front, it was agreed by all running that Michigan and Florida would not count because of not having the blessing of the DNC. Clinton is behind and feels the need to manipulate the numbers in her direction by now counting Michigan and Florida.

You sound so ignorant when you say things like that, calling people FRAUD!

Anthony   May 6th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Why is this stil and issue? The states broke the rules and their delegates should not be seated. The voters of those states should look at towards their leadership for breaking the rules of the DNC. I do beleive that individuals in the State leadership should get fired and outseted out of their jobs for failing their states voters.

DCER   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Seat Florida and Michigan! We need them to win in the general election. Obama cannot win, so nominate Hillary already!

smart grrl in ls mo   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Obama supporters don't care whether votes are supressed.

Concerned Canadian   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

The race will go on till mid to late June. Al Gore is coming out to endorse Hillary Clinton. Edwards is coming out and endorsing Hillary Clinton.

Also at this time, Florida and Michigan will be arranged to have their votes counted as well...which Hillary will easily win both. Barack Hussein Obama made the political mistake of his life by not cooperating in order to find a way to get the votes in those two states to count.

To add salt to the wound , Bill Ayers and more Rev Wright controversy will blow up in his face and his support will disappear before you can say 'yes we can'.

Bye Bye Barack !! Its been nice knowing ya.

HILLARY O8 !!

Kwaku, CA   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Primaries in August 5th? The-love-drama media would rather this nomination process goes no forever regardless of the consequences for Democrats in November. The eventual nominee would need substantial time to bring the party together before the convention in end of August. Therefore campaigning till August will be disastrous. rules, agreed upon by all contestants, should be enforced. End of story, end of media fantasies1

Kit   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

I am an "undecided" (Obama) Michigan voter. I supported moving the primary up to have economic issues heard across the nation. Finally they have! But the DNC rules must be followed. Seat the MI and FL delegations without the ability to vote the first round – if it goes to further rounds of voting, then let them vote their candidate like any other delegate can do in the later rounds.

Cocktails42 from Seattle   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

The Florida primary included all of the candidates' names on its ballot, and therefore the results of that election should count in some way. For holding its primary too early, Florida should be punished in the same way that the Republican Party punished it for the same infraction–by taking away half of its nominating votes at the convention.

As for Michigan, if the DNC is willing to change its rules to allow for an early August primary, then this might be the best solution for that state.

It seems unfair to basically disenfranchise the many voters of these 2 states just because of the backroom maneuverings of some state and party officials.

ERIC   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

HILLARY NEED TO FORM 3RD PARTY SO THAT SHE CAN ADD FL & MI

Molly   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

SEEMS LIKE A PLAN!!!!

Too bad the obama group hates it – because he lost the first time and will loose the next time around.
AND – the PEOPLE did NOT break the rules – the "Party Leaders" did.
Also – I live in South Carolina – we also moved up our vote date WAY early- and were not punished!!!!! WHY???? Seems like SC was a more
"diverse" state – that is what I was told!

SYLVIA ASHEVILLE   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Obama does not need to win because he did not get the popular vote.
Most Americans want Hillary ( florida and Michigan, remember?)
But I suppose the powers that be will select us another prez like back in 2000.

Richard PA   May 6th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Lets Face Facts...

1-Clinton agreed to the MI and FL penalty for moving the primary dates well before the campaign
2-ONLY until now, when she need them the most, does she cry foul play and blames all of the fellow democrats for not listening to the voters... as well as Obama for not changing the rules??
3-IF she and the democrats from MI and FL cared SOOOO much for the voters in MI and FL why didnt she scream and yell like she is now to make sure their votes are counted back when she agreed to those terms!!!! Why now?? If you were so compasionate about the voters why didnt HRC make a big stink then?? She maybe the front runner now if she did make a big deal out of it then...

HRC Senior Panderer...

Todd   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Oh Come on....So WHO will pay for ballots, additional polling place workers and security. Not too mention the TIME needed to count the ballots and re-register voters.

They KNEW the rules...sorry, you cannot change the rules in the middle just because it doesn't suit your needs. Florida & Michigan didnt matter to Hillary in the beginning of election season, but now that she is failing and falling fast she is wanting the delegates seated and voters voices heard. She could care less about "disenfranchised" voters. Do you think she would want this to happen if SHE were in the lead in popular vote and delegates seated? NO WAY......

Give it up WOLFIE, the wreck is going down..get out before you drown.

Ken M.   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Dragging it out through August sure would help CNN ratings.

Des,Toronto   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

No No No....Clinton can only win if you rig the primary like Mugabe just did in Zimbabwe......No No No.........play by the rules and don't try to come up with some scheme to rob the legitimate winner Obama. Blitzer should stick to his biased news reporting period.

Obama 08

Miguel   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

But Wolf, if we don't go forward with and extended re-do what will the Obama freaks have left to snark about? So many of them want this to be over but then they would not have an outlet for all their useless dribble.

Melissa   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Hehe. I like the picture caption. "Some have raised the possibility of adding the Clinton-Obama race to Florida and Michigan's local elections this August."

"Some" being a roundabout way to say "Wolf Blitzer" :D But please, tell us what you really think.

Debra Austin, Texas   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

The fact that this must be the third article by Blitzer regarding dragging this thing on until August, either he is a dithering Clinton fan or a corporate stooge. I would guess the latter since he's never represented an opinion of his own and the continuation of this battle would suit the Republican corporate bottom dwellers just fine. Stop guiding the message before the MSM is erased altogether.

USAF Sr. Airman   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Let's re count ALL the votes, but only count the ones cast for Clinton.... Just as good as all these other ideas.

They knew their delegates wouldn't count. Florida and Michigan were warned. They jacked it up, they have to deal with it.

Mike Jones   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Wolf, did the Clinton campaign put you up to this? I bet you would love to stretch this out to august for ratings. This thing is over on June 3rd. Wolf tell your buddies the Clintons that the fat lady is warming up.

Wolverine   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

1. DNC dug its whole when they barred MI & FL. Let them come out of it.
2. What is it that Obama supporters are really AFRAID off. Both candidates have equal opportunity to compete ...and get a better result. Repolling in MI & FL is better option than letting some dimwit-super delegate decide who should run on Dem ticket.
3. The price of printing new ballots will be marginal ....given the implications of not resolving this issue fair & square.
4. Overall, conducting primaries in MI & FL is good thing for Dems....otherwise, Dems will go to Nov polls DIVIDED and that will play well the OLD MAN! and four more years of Republican rule.

SLO Bear   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

I used to trust CNN for news; now, it is pretty obvious that the American people can trust them to support the Clintons–at the expense of the country.

NDS_Democrat   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Hi Blitzer

Please be fair.

NDS

an eye in ohio   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Obama people are such bad sports fans. If FL and MI will count in the general election, those votes will matter in the big game. Try to grow up, guys, and if you have a winner, you don't need to stop the contest.

John-MO   May 6th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Keep Obama and Clinton out of the re-vote process. Obama has made an effort to block the re-vote efforts because it is in his best interest. Clinton wants the re-vote because it is in her best interest.

Get those votes counted, let their voices be heard because it is the right thing to do, not the political thing to do. The Democratic party is split pretty much in half over this race, short of a joint Clinton/Obama ticket, getting Florida and Michigan delegates counted is the only way things will work out for the Democrats.

Katherine & John   May 6th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Of course Michigan and Florida votes must be counted and their delegations must be seated and be full participants in the DNC convention in August. It's ludicrous to think otherwise. You can't have a nominating convention with only 48 states. The nominee would not be legitimate and the Dems cannot win without Florida and Michigan in November.

Hillary Clinton will be the nominee with the votes of Michigan and Florida. That's why Obama is trying so hard to disenfranchise the voters in these states. The Democratic party cannot be in the business of disenfranchising voters. Michigan is holding an election in August anyway, it would not cost anymore to add the Presidential names to the ballot. It's a win, win solution. Florida should be counted as it was voted as both names were on the ballot, Hillary received more than twice the votes of Obama in Florida.

Hillary Clinton should be the nominee of the party because she's the most qualified, most electable candidate in the race. It IS about winning. Obama is unelectable. Obama's caucus wins are meaningless in a general election.

Hillary Clinton has already proven she can win big in the big, electoral rich states that are the must wins for the Dems in November. Obama has won exactly NONE of these states and in polls loses to McCain in matchups while Hillary beats McCain in the must win states. If you can't win in states like Ohio and Penn, you cannot win the Presidency.
Obama has outspent Hillary 4 to 1 in Ohio and PEnn, yet lost by a wide margin, only winnning the black vote.

The Democratic party would be foolish to nominate an unelectable candidate in Obama.

*VOTE SMART! VOTE PATRIOTIC! VOTE HILLARY CLINTON!*

CopyCat   May 6th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

U have to be KIDDING.
We have to get on with it Mr. Blitzer!
This election will be over May 20, 2008 and we will start preparing for John McCain on May 10, 2008. After tonight, Obama will need less than 40 pledged delegates to hold the majority throughout the rest of the primaries. We do not have time for this pandering and moving the posts and new elections, and whatever else the media can come up with.

Our lives depend on this election; war, American bankruptcy, no alternate energy, losing superpower status....

WE JUST DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS MESS ANYMORE!

JohnnyRico   May 6th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

The problem is that the race won't be concluded in June...or July unless Clinton bows out. Neither candidate has enough delegates to win outright so this is headed for a floor fight at the convention in late August unless all the superdelegates decide to get behind one candidate, which I doubt.

The DNC isn't so much worried about the nominating fight as they are about the general election. If MI and FL feel disenfranchised, they may end up in McCain's column. Also, it wasn't the voters of MI and FL that broke the rules, it was the state party officials. How does it make sense to deny the residents of two entire states a say in picking the nominee? Even Guam and Puerto Rico's votes matter this year but somehow MI and FLs don't?

Ohiobo, J From Canada   May 6th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Obama will never let it happen because he is fraud. He wants to be the nominee and he does not care about counting every vote

Steve   May 6th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

So to everyone who must not have more then a third grade education. Its not changing the rules. Its well within the rules of the DNC to hold another primary.

Joe   May 6th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

makes perfect sense to me. michigan and florida voters should have their votes counted like everyone else. i thought this was a constitutional right.

Sean   May 6th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

They can hold a new primary in MI they feel the need, but in FL on Jan 29th the people of Florida already voted and Obama did run ads well before that point there and he was on the ballot on FL as well. Dean had not right to stip us of our votes as punishment for the actions of our party leaders so if our January 29th votes are not counted and Obama should win I will join my family, friends and most everybody I know in FL whose vote was stolen from them in voting for McCain in November!

Kim, PA   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Florida should stand as is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michigan should redo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and why wait until August.

add them now and do Mich now....

and clearly the better choice will stand!
Hillary 08'

if obama wins, i will NOT VOTE FOR HIM. he is a fraud!!!!!

nina   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

What? Change the rules? These 2 states should have their votes counted and delegates sat, but in NO WAY should they determine the outcome of this democratic race.

These 2 states broke the rules, therefore they should not be rewarded.
Remember people, this only became an issue for Hillary, once she was losing.
She didn't say anything until AFTER super tuesday. And then she really has laid it on thick since Obama's 11 straight wins.

The DNC should adhere to their own rules. Otherwise, what's the point of having them?

GB   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Definitely NOT a good idea. To REWARD for breaking the rules??? They blew it. If they had kept their original dates or moved them up to Super Tuesday, along with many others, then they COULD have had a major impact. As it is, they should not have any impact at all. They'll have to wait for the general election. Otherwise, that will encourage other states in the future to break the rules, and then there will be REAL anarchy!

58 white old ladies for OBAMA   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

WE ARE IN NO MOOD TO HAVE THE REPUBLICANS &

LOBBYISTS ELECT WARHILLIE. THAT WOULD FRACTURE

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IRREPARABLY. THE FRAUD

OF THE BUSH ELECTION WAS ENOUGH.

Nelson - Knoxville   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

What is the ennsence of having rules and making the candidates sign in the first place when leaders of the party knew that they would not be man enough to stay with the rule should they have to. I am smelling fraud here and it all because Hillary is in the sencond place and no one can stand with fairness and truth in the party. Why will the USA preach democracy in other countries when they cannot stay with the with which a game was started – Democracy is all about rule of law.

Nigeria where I came from seam to better than what am witnessing here.

Ms. GA   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

That would be a total disaster! This has gone on long enough!

proud army and navy mom   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

WOLFE,
you are desparate for rating, aren't you. you call yourself a journalist. you sound like you are being bought and paid for by rush himself. try reporting the news and not being a part of it. journalism 101. pathetic

tom   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

these two state need to just not reelect the repswho let them down so there vote counts next time. thou at our current pace there may be no next time

Leo from NV   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Thanks for bringing this up Wolfe, I love you for it!
Counting the votes of those two BIG states is a legitimate question to raise for the party if they want any chance to win the Presidency. The people who do not want to discuss this issue are the Obama supporters who have their heads in the sand.

Jared   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Mr. Blitzer's idea sounds like a perfect way for the media to continue to run sound bytes that have little to do with our candidates' presidential abilities for the entire summer. I get exhausted just thinking about it.

Ulysse   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Stupid idea. They would cut down the necessary time to heal the wounds of that race and lose the general election for sure.

KM   May 6th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I thought that we beat this dead horse to death a few months ago.

Jeanie   May 6th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Come on. The DNC can't flip-flop on their own decisions just because
they don't like the resulting outcome.

We need new blood in the DNC and Washington. No more Bush's or Clinton's.

Let the people talk and support who they want. Keep Obama going in spite of the press's change of mind.

Vincent   May 6th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

August? Are you nuts?! Where is the time for general campaign for the democrats?

Marc   May 6th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

They broke the rules. Lets see if CNN will post this.

TIM   May 6th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

I KNEW THAT THE CLINTON NEWS [CNN] WOULD BE FOR THIS. THE RULES WERE THE RULES. GET OVER IT. ONE LITTLE QUESTION ? WHY IS CNN IN THE TANK FOR HILLARY?

ShoNeel   May 6th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Two words "dangling chad."

Superdelegate   May 6th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Sounds like job security for media "pundits"

Brian   May 6th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Blitzer is desperate to keep this thing going. Ratings > Journalism.

Sheanne   May 6th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

IF MI & FL VOTERS DON'T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE BECAUSE OF THE POLITICIANS CAN YOU CAN BET THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION.

OBAMA HAD TV ADS RUNNING IN FL SO THEIR ORIGINAL VOTE SHOULD COUNT.

J   May 6th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

"and b) make sure Florida and Michigan voters are not disenfranchised?"

This implies that the voters in these two states were disenfranchised by the DNC as opposed to themselves and their party leaders.

Ed   May 6th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Depends on whom you ask. Obviously the Obama adorers want nothing to do with this because, um, it would actually be a fair and equitable resolution to this standoff.

Tony   May 6th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

HRC the FRAUD will never go for two more large states dumping her down the tubes !

HRC says Florida and Michigan DO NOT COUNT.

HRC is a FRAUD

Dianne   May 6th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Who does this benefit?

CNN? DNC? Obama? Clinton?

CNN – They get to make news instead of reporting it.

DNC – they cannot turn around from a divisive campaign and have only 2 months to wrap up the GE.

OBAMA- He is already winning and do not need this.

CLINTON- She already lost and it is a non-issue.

Who needs this?

WINNER – CNN

A. Harrison in Georgia   May 6th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Better late than never.

Demi T. in CA   May 6th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

This doesn't sound exciting to me, Mr. Blitzer, it sounds horrible.

August is WAY too long to wait. We should be focusing on McCain NOW, but instead it looks like the Dems will be slugging it out till June. I know Howard Dean keeps saying it is good for the party, but we've got to wrap this up if we want to take back the white house in November. McCain's been getting an easy ride, especially with his willingness to continue W's disastrous foreign and economic policies.

gina   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Actually, it's near impossible for BO to pull out the number of delegates he needs to get the nomination too! AND it wasn't the FL and MI voters that broke the rules.

Ken   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Wolf,

That has to be the most inane ... and self-serving ... comment on this race that I have heard to date. CNN and Wolf Blitzer should be ashamed that they would put such an absurd headline on the front page of their Politics section on the web site.

This ridiculous proposal would cause irreparable harm to the party, by pitting a divisive issue that late in the process, with no time to heal.

Irresponsible candidates. Irresponsible anchors. Try reporting the news instead of becoming it.

Steve from California   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Florida deciding the nomination in August.. That would be fun. This has been one of the most interesting political battles we've ever seen. We've seen a crazy preacher, sniper fire in Bosnia, a former president putting his foot in his mouth, a candidate's wife putting her foot in her mouth, guns, elitists, racists, telling lies, telling the truth and women Indy Car drivers just to name a few of the wacky things in this campaign. It's been too much fun for it to end anytime soon. On to the convention!

Greg Fensterman   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

No, let's wait till november and have it the day before the general election. On no wait Wolfe, let's just combine it with the general election and people can vote for McCain or Clinton or Obama.

No wait....

Any more brilliant ideas Wolfe?

Only a Republican could come up with a plan like that.

Karey   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

BTW....Portland is poised to have an awesome guy become our first Gay mayor! Might be worth a story...

Dan   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Wolf I was a big support of yours until this election and now after seeing you trying to plant this idea on of all days one of the "game changing" moments in the election I'm through with thinking you are an impartial, fair and true blue person because you are not....said...sellout...

Frank   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Way to keep it churning Wolf. What will you guys dream up next in order to keep this thing a horse race.

Idiot Savant   May 6th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Agreed that August is way too late. I think one will find after all the legitimate votes are counted, that MI and FL won't have made a difference, even without giving the "Uncommitted" votes to Obama in MI.

Mike   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

LET"S SHUT
CNN DOWN!!

THEY WANT
THIS RACE TO GO
ON FOR THE RATINGS!!

DD, New York   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Absolutely DO NOT re-do the voting in Michigan and Florida!!!!! Their votes should stand as they currently exist, but only have half of them seated at the convention. For example, if "Candidate X" won Michigan, only have half those Michigan delegates seated at the convention. Similarly, if "Candidate Y" won Florida, only have half of the Florida delegates seated at the convention. To avoid future "Michigan/Florida" scenarios, instead of penalizing those states' citizens' votes, impose heavy sanctions and fines on those states' officials for moving up a primary against party rules. Hitting the offenders in their "wallets and pocketbooks" are surefire ways of preventing future fiascos such as this one. (What's wrong with Florida anyway, don't they always mess up in election time or always have some sort of voting contraversey going on???)

sh   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Here we go again just to keep this going for Dems CNN throws out another stupid idea. CNN you are suppose to be neutral what a shame.

Tim in NC   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

NO!!!!!!!!
Absolutely not and for one, single reason: Accountability

The state leaders of the Democratic parties in those two states need to be held accounatble for their actions. They knew the rules for the primaries, they agreed to them, and then they violated them. Their selfish, ego-driven decisions have cost both the party and this nation the voices of those voters, and possibly done irreparable damage to the people's faith in the electoral system.

The voters of those two states should not be mad at candidates or the National DNC, they should hold their local leaders responsible and act accordingly.

Michigan voter   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Our fabulous Governor thought it would make us more important to go against the rules and move up the primary. Why should we be rewarded for that? The Michigan voters need to hold Gov. Granholm responsible for this mess and make her stand up and apologize for not following the rules. We want our children to grow up and understand there are consequences for doing wrong...this is a good lesson! It's not Hillary or Obama that screwed this up...if anything I respect Obama for keeping his name off the ballot, he followed the rules.

I hope Jenny learned something from all of this!!!

Sal in Phoenix   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Anyway, didn't the Republican run officials in the state of Florida change the primary date?..Why should the Democrats suffer for what the Republicans did?

Stacy Clarks   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

then we will only have 2 months to campaign in the general

unless you want teh democrats to lose, then this is a DUMB idea!!!

If a crimial broke the law, and as punishment is sent to jail, will you then release him because he decided to change the rules mid-way?!?! NO!!

DEMOCRATS IN 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!

adam   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

I see a lot of Obama supporters post here!

No wonder you are afraid of MI and FL counting!!! It'd be bye bye Barack!

Cindy in California   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Everyone agreed to the rules, why are we accomodating those who chose to make their own rules?

JomeTink   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Why Not

There is No Winner and we need one.

Florida and MI must be counted. Otherwise, how do you determine the winner.

No Delegate Count Met, No Winner.

mimi de la cruz for OBAMA   May 6th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

THERE WILL BE NO FIGHT.

OUR WARMONGER HILLARY HAS THE BACKING

OF THE REPUBLICANS & HER LOBBYISTS, THE SAME,

& SEN.BARACK OBAMA HAS THAT OF THE DEMOCRATIC

VOTERS. IF THE DNC GETS PLAYED AGAIN, AS THEY GOT

WHEN GORE WON, WE HAVE TO CONCLUDE WE GOT

SOLD OUT. THEN THE DEMOCRATS IN

THIS COUNTRY NEED TO FORM ANOTHER PARTY.

Sonja   May 6th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Why is everyone so afraid of allowing Florida and Michigan to vote? If they hold their primaries now, wouldn't they comply with party rules?

patrick   May 6th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

No democrat wants a bookered convention, and republican opinions are irrelevant in our choice of the nomination. I know you want the ratings but it's not going to happen.

Quinn   May 6th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

This won't fly with the Obama camp. They have refused to agree to any re-votes in FL and MI for months. Obama will certainly not change his mind now that the race is very close.

However, the DNC must give FL & MI seats at the convention or the democratic nominee will surely loose without those electoral votes in the general election.

Alice in Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will vote for McCain in November, and NOTHING will change my mind – not 100 years in Iraq, not the overthrow of Roe vs. Wade – NOTHING. The most important issue for me personally is that Barack Obama stole my vote. If that's "Change," I want no part of it. Maybe Barack stole my Florida vote for Hillary, but he will not steal my November vote for McCain.

Mike   May 6th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

I'm sick and tired of the Billary supporters blaming OBAMA for FL and MI problem.

If it was the other way around, the Billary people would not want a re-vote given the way they have been trying to steal this election like Dubya did in 2000!

Hillary grew up as a Republican and she is still one!

How many of you idiots have told your children to follow the rules like OBAMA did?

hp   May 6th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

I say if they dont hold new elections they are going to lose the general election anyway. You can not screw millions of voters because a few moronic leaders screwed up and expect them to support you come November.

Ken from Michigan   May 6th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

I'm still entitled to vote in November, when my vote really counts. I didn't vote in the primary because the candidate I support wasn't on the ballot...Shame on you Hillary for breaking the rules!

I can wait until November to cast my ballot, although I feel a bit "disenfranchised", it's not the end of the world. I'm sure a lot of Michigan voters feel the same way.

Our Michigan "leaders" broke the rules, we have to live by them.

Let the primaries continue as they are.

atoin from california   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Obama knows he won't win Florida and doesn't want a revote but he has a shot in Michigan. But LOL look at all the Obama fans claiming they don't want a revote. We want to win right! How can you disenfranchise 2.3 million people. Obama shounld NOT be the nominee on disenfranchised delegates. If they don't do something, I will go McCain if I can't have Hillary.

JB, Merced CA   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I used to chuckle at my right wing buddies who called CNN the Clinton News Network in the 90's, but now the laugh is on me. They were right all this time.

Vic   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Boring...

Adam, Los Angeles   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Don't giver her any more ideas!

Jane, NC   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Florida and Michigan must have their input into the party nomination. It is unthinkable that two of our states, with so many of their citizens having already voted, will be excluded. I know that after all these years of a Bush administration, we don't look much like America any more, but we still are!!

Wake Up America   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Wolf the notion that you and others would want for MI and FL, who violated the established rules, to decide the nomination is nothing short of being unconsciounable.

These states should NOT be given the chance to determnine who the nominee if.

RULES ARE JUST THAT – RULES

Joe C.   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Enough of this discussion! What don't you all understand about this?? Michigan and Florida broke the party rules. They don't get a say in the primaries. Too bad! They should simply follow the rules next time! If the DNC allows the rules now to be compromised, then they may as well remove the rule entirely, because it doesn't mean anything. Question: If this were a small state with less delegates, like Vermont or Rhode Island, would the DNC still consider compromising it's rule? Just because Michigan and Florida are bigger with more delegates should not give them any clout. If anything, the DNC needs to make an example out of both of them to keep other states from moving up their primaries in the future!

Dan from Pgh   May 6th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I'm slightly perplexed by the other posts. Wolf was just putting a scenario out there to think about. I've never heard that he was a Hillary supporter, in fact, the network seems to slant towards Obama. In any case, I agree that FL and MI broke the rules, but the constituents didn't and that is where it is not fair. My opinion is to split the delegates evenly between the states and call it a day. Whoever has the most will win.

BTW, I'm a Lou Dobbs independent.

Karey   May 6th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

People keep forgetting about the seating of the delegates from Florida and Michigan. It is worth bringing up again. Howard Dean stated on the Daily Show that they will make a way to seat the delegates from those two states.

Wolf, you want to marry me. You just don't know it yet. :) hee hee hee

Karey

Bernard-Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

So disenfranshise millions of voters because of party rules that were made without consent of those they disenfranchise. I'm African American who lives in Florida, but I want to see all the votes count, and don't treat me like I'm a child by saying the delegates will be seated when we know that we will not have much say on who will be the democratic nominee or who just might be the next president; just like 2000 and 2004.

Let's get it right this time or we might wake up in 2012 with the same problem.

zina   May 6th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

The state legislatures have tried to do this, but could not come to an agreement. In Michigan, they wanted to restrict some democrats from voting and the Obama Campaign was right to oppose that re-vote. In Florida, they simply refused! Let it be, and let's come up with a fair solution to seat them so we can move on to getting back in the WH in January!

O8ama

jeffrey   May 6th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

its a great idea wolf.....but if obamas camp killed the last revote idea becasue it dosnt help there side ....whats to stop them form doing it again...and according to them the the supperdeligates are just waiting patiently for him to score any type of victory so they can put this thing to bed....and hes stated that he can win without fla....or atleast he thinks he can....so....again i ask....why would they agree?......i think were all in for a rude awaking with obama.....

Seth   May 6th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Blitzer, get a clue.

cameleon116   May 6th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

stop to endorse ILL ARY

OBAMA 08

Sal in Phoenix   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

We have 50 states in the U.S. and all 50 should be recognized..If they hold another primary in each state there should be nothing wrong with that..I'm sure some people have changed their minds one way or another and some people probably didn't vote at all and now would like to..Everyone's vote should be counted..They need to find a way.

Sean   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

I hope you Obama supporters are happy on election night when Florida AND Michigan deliver their electoral votes for McCain.

Darla from Iowa   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Obama doesn't want the voters counted Wolf. And Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean do what Obama says. They want to lose in the fall again so they are making sure Obama gets in by cheating. Not counting votes , pushing for the superdelegates to take the vote away from the voters and solving the DNC complete stupidity of not counting Florida and Michigan by taking the election away from the voters and not going to the Denver Convention. Why are you guys still saying that you get the nomination if your "ahead". Since when was that a rule. If you don't get to 2208 you do not get the nominee not 2025. Then it goes to the convention. Howard Dean doesn't want the world to see what a mess he has created so he's trying to cheat and give it to Obama. I say stay out of it Super Delegates and if they don't. Don't vote them in their next election.

Angela   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Yes they broke the rules – so lets watch Democrats in Florida and Michigan vote Republican in the General because they are angry that their vote did not count in the Primary. Florida democrats did not have a choice – their Republican governor moved up the date.

They voted – let it count...Fine the respective state parties, but don't punish the voter.

Mike From Merritt Island Fla. A independent voter   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Yes, Why should we penalize the voters. They went to the polls when they were ask to. This year Americans are voting more then they have in years. So we dirty the idea that ones vote does not count in this country. Its not about which candidate wants the votes to count. It is that all American voices should be heard. The votes should count as they were voted in the original primary in Mich. And Florida.

Dan in NY   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Why does every Wolf Blitzer column have the suggested effect of lengthening and dramatizing the primary? Do we think that maybe Wolf has an interest here?

kingsley   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

and wolf you need to stop putting gas in the fire. we no you are pro hillary and anti obama. its no secret so your little post and blogs are favoritized and discriminating

Get Real   May 6th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Lets be honest, the party leadership in each of the states broke the rules and NOT the voters. Why are we punishing the voters? This silences an individual’s preference for their party's presidential nomination. You can speak all you want of “they” broke the rules, but "they" are not the voters.

Stephen David   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf... Geez, I'm so disappointed in you. You've become the Geraldo Rivera of network news. CNN is truly beginning to rival Fox News.

Best political team on television? Maybe so... but look at the competition; it's nothing to brag about.

Jonathan Lawoyin   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf, you cant fool me, behind that thin vail on your face l can see through your deep desire to have Hillary as the nominee regardless of whichever way it comes. You are shifting the pole again, a rule is a rule. We in Africa normally give some credit to America for been a nation under the of rule of law. Your suggestion has a name, and it is called ' Mugabeism'. Enough of this trash, let the real winner, whoever wins in a fair way have it.

jamal   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf Blitzer has ben a strong Clinton surrogate and happens to be a journalist. He needs to embrace ideas of diversity and the fact that a person of color can be a president. There is no need to go back to Florida and Michigan. That chapter was closed long time ago.

Jean from Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

I have an idea...Why don't MI and FL hold their elections in NOV like the rest of us that way their votes get to count......Enough talk about the MI & FL primaries – it will not happen...What bothers me is that the people in FLorida and Michigan doesn't seem concerened about their votes not counting – but the media does...

Gary   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Wolf, are You being paid by Clintons campaign ? or is this plot just to 'buy' some news for the network...either way CNN should not lay any further claim that they are the 'most trustworthy' news network...its simply not true..CNN is either a wolf in sheeps clothing ( pardon the pun or a greed sucking business entity)

Kareem from Hampton VA   May 6th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

This is utterly hilarious I have YET to see a Mi. or Fl voter on this ticker complain about their state not counting! Hillary Clinton made this a campaign issue..this is clearly a legislative issue for the respective states and thats where it should remain! No ONE and I mean NO ONW cared about Mi and Fl until the Clinton Entitlement Bus broke down on Super Tuesday!

Darren   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I can't believe the Michigan/Florida issue is still being discussed. The rules were broken end of story. Why does CNN continue to give this story legs?

Michigan Male   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

As a Michigan citizen, I can attest to the fact that the governor and legislature said that the DNC was not going to not seat the Michigan delegation. This was before the vote to move the election was taken. Our elected officials made our bed and we must lie in it. But we will not forget in November who invalidated our votes.
Impeach Granholm and reelect no incumbents!

Jan, Knoxville, TN   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Wolf, I believe you are a closet Hillary supporter. I noticed last night you started the Wright stuff again. This race needs to be decided today or at least no later than June 3. Florida and Michigan broke the rules and I think it is too late for another primary. I suggest they just seat them at the convention and that is all. Anything else would not be fair to my candidate OBAMA.

Dandelion.   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I'm from Florida and even I think it would be wrong to hold new primaries. We broke the rules, we made the bed and now we must lie in it. Simple as that.

Antonio, Champaign, IL   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Why not let Florida & Michigan count? These voters deserve a right to be heard, and should not be punished because their state leaders decided to move up the date. It was not wise for them to go against party rules, but it also was not wise for the DNC to punish these states. And of course, all you Obama fanatics don't want these states to count because you are afraid this election may tip in Clinton's favor. And of course, you Clinton backers want these states to count, probably without even having a re-vote. I say seat Florida's votes now because they were both on the ballot, and this thing does not need to happen in the middle of the convention, and allow Michigan to revote in August.

Chipster   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Here's a better idea: figure out an appropriate punishment for the legislators and party wonks who broke the rules and count the votes as they were cast by the voters who did nothing wrong!

It isn't their fault and Chairman Dean is having a fit to end this race before all of the states have voted anyhow, so why didn't he just let all of the states move their dates forward?

As for Michigan, Sen. Obama did not have to remove his name from the ballot. That was not required and it was his poor judgment. It was pure grandstanding on his part.

Splitting the votes 50/50 is the same as not counting them so that's just ignorant. Count the votes. It's the democratic thing to do.

DOUBTING THOMAS   May 6th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

MR. BLITZER, I'M SURPRISED THAT A RESPECTED JOURNALIST LIKE YOURSELF, WOULD JUMP ON THE CLINTON BANDWAGON. THE CLINTONS HAVE SOILED THEIR IMAGE, YOU'RE RISKING TAINTING YOURS.

jo   May 6th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

OK kids...
You break the rules and cry and whine hard and long enough...
So you are rewarded and get what you want!
Sounds like a great lesson for our children!
Grow up!

Dean-Mississippi   May 6th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

"Here's one thing to ponder – think how exciting that Democratic convention in Denver would be if on the second day it all came down to the Florida primary." ????????

I am pondering why the entertainment value of the convention should be a deciding factor? I guess it would generate a lot of revenue and viewership for the media outlets. Hmmmmm.

As stated in the other posts, there are consequences to actions that violate agreed upon regulations.

RB   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Stop dreaming, Wolf. MI/FL can be seated, but WILL NOT determine the nominee. What would that say to those of us who followed the rules? HRC agreed to the rules. Dead issue. If we lose the general election because those two states go red, so be it! BUT, if they get to vote again, we all get to vote again!

Scott   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Who gives a crap....those idiots bucked the system and lost. People from Florida and Michigan should be blaming their local DNC not the national committee.

Justin   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Uh, the states already decided, get over it CNN, Clinton is done and needs a fork up her you know what.

JP SW   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Do you live with your head buried in the sand? Of course both names will, be added to the Aug primary in Michigan...or did the Obamaites not know there was one?

And Michigan is plenty mad at Dean and Pelosi and the DNC. And the Obama man for doing everything possible to block their vote because he's done if MI and Florida gets in the act.

BUT, remember the DNC has to have those states so let there be a FAIR vote.

What do ya say Obamites? How about a fair up front vote. Have you turned green yet?

RB   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Stop dreaming, Wolf. MI/FL can be seated, but WILL NOT determine the nominee. What would that say to those of us who followed the rules? HRC agreed to the rules. Dead issue. If we lose the general election because those two states go red, so be it! BUT, if they get to vote again, we all get to vote again!

Seth (Jacksonville, FL)   May 6th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Voters in Florida and Michigan can still vote for President this fall...but rules were broken and the punishment for doing so was the forfeiture of delegates in the primaries. Both Clinton and Obama knew this going in, and there wasn't a peep out of either about fairness or disenfranchisement of voters until HIllary realized she was getting her tail kicked and needed a way to get some extra votes.

Letting the votes count now is like grounding your kid for sneaking out at night and then, when he complains that it's not fair to ground him for breaking the rules, you take away the grounding and say "You're right, it's not fair to punish for rules we set that you clearly broke. Let's work this out and let you have your way instead."

This is just a desperate tactic. Florida and Michigan voters aren't just going to stay home in November – they are going to go to the ballot box and fill in the bubble next to DEMOCRAT.

Bubba   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Surely Wolf doesn't get paid for his stupid ideas!

Terry Frakes   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

This is the fairest thing they could do. It would really determine who is electable in november. Its not fair to the candidates, but most of all its not fair to the voters. Obama has drug his feet on this, and its not very professional on his part. He has no right to claim victory on anything unless these two states are able to vote.

AMBER   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

WHAT MATTERS IS THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. HAS THE DNC BECOME SO INFLEXIBLE THAT IT WILL NOT LISTEN TO ITS MEMBERS? BY OBAMA BLOCKING THE WILL OF MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA USING THE RULES EXCUSE , HE WILL HAVE ACHIEVED IN HANDING FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN TO THE REPUBLICANS IN A SILVER PLATER. WE ARE ALL DEMOCRATS AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SILENCE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA. LET THEM SPEAK!!! IS OBAMA SO AFRAID THAT HE IS GOING TO LOOSE (AGAIN) IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN???
"WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THAT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN'S VOICES BE HEARD!!!!!!

Addis - observer   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Here comes Blitzer again for his favourite candidate Hillary R. Clinton. U know why Michigan & Florida are not in play.

Blitzer, i thought u are like an anchor... i mean ... we expect a lot from u guys... this is really not fair... I Read all ur articles... they r always to incline / influence people that Hillary should b the winner. But that is not really true. U know that better than anyone there. Please don't do that... U will b ashamed of what u did after a while.

Much respect,

Just an observer..

skoolzdateacha   May 6th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

HOW ABOUT THIS, THE ONLY FAIR THING WOULD BE WHEN IT IS OVER JUNE 3RD OR WHATEVER SEAT THE DELEGATES FROM BOTH STATES ACCORDING TO POPULAR VOTE PERCENTAGE, HOW ELSE WOULD IT BE FAIR OR MAKE SENSE. I LIKE HILLARY BUT I AM SO UPSET THAT SHE WOULD INSIST ON TRYING TO FIGURE A WAY TO STEAL AN ELECTION. ASK HER HUSBANDS VICE PRESIDENT-STEALING ELECTIONS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS DO!

Tim   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

You see the sign that says speed limit 65 MPH. You decide that doesn’t apply to you and you want to get home earlier, so you drive 80 MPH. You get pulled over for speeding. You tell the State Trooper that you knew that the speed limit was 65, but you decided that those rules don't apply to you. You are now appalled that the State Trooper now has the gall to give you a ticket just because everyone else obeyed the rules. You go on to say that the State officials were wrong in the first place to dictate how fast you can drive. And finally you question the State Trooper’s ability to enforce such an unfair law and demand that he tear up the ticket and apologize for hindering your driving right. Sounds silly? So does allowing FL and MI to do a revote.

Chut Pata   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Billary would only accept results where Obama's name wasn't on the ballot or where he has not contested. However it is an excellent idea.

Obama has to accept the results where his name was on ballot and and where he was given a fair chance to contest, because even if he loses with a slight margin overall, he can still get the required delegates.

Billary should be happy on a consolation win like PA and IN, though I doubt it!

david, Omaha - NE   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Bravo Wolf,
You want riots, right!!
Poor Hillary, she will be bend the rules to be the advocate of fairness.
And YOU, media, you lovin'it.
But it AIN"T RIGHT.
Rules are Rules. Respect them and we will have no FIGHTS....

steveg   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Blitzer is looking more and more like a total political hack and a tool every day. Each time he tries to torture logic and math to justify somehow awarding Hillary the nomination, it makes CNN look as biased as FOX news.

It's becoming more and more transparent, not that it was ever concealed very well.

I used to think those to dubbed CNN the "Clinton New Network" were exaggerating to try to push a far right agenda, but, it does seem that a lot of the talking heads are bending over backward to talk up Hillary, and not calling her out on much of anything.

RON   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

I live in FLORIDA and i didnt vote b/c i knew our votes did not count and i am an OBAMA supporter... I dont think we shoud have to revote... the dnc of fl and mi broke the rules... simple as that they should not count... if they need to be than,.,,, they need to be split evenly 50/50

Bob (PA)   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

New elections change the game and would not be fair...

1.) Everyone had a chance to put their name on the Michigan and it's not Senator Clinton's fault that Obama didn't care enough to do it.

2.) Both states did vote based on their election dates. Again, not Senator Clinton's fault that Obama was still a nobody at that point.

It's 2000 all over again.

Every vote MUST be counted for it to be valid US election. If we just decide which votes count and which ones do not then we are no longer a democracy.

And if you revote then it's not the same. The results will be different. As would all the states if they revoted.

Would every state now vote for Obama or would the trend continue for states to show their support for Senator Clinton. If you revote then Clinton could easily be ahead.

Fight it out at the convention and get over it.

NObama   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Here is the thing Obama-bots. He cannot win either. It's not whoever is in the lead, it's who ever achieves 2,025 delegates. It is impossible for either of them to do.

Yes let them re-vote. If not let the super delegates decide for who is most electable in November... Which I believe is Hillary.

Ready for Change   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

For all of you who don't even know what the rules are:

The rules called for Florida and Michigan to lose half their delegates, just like the Republican rules. Howard Dean decided to strip all of them instead, thereby breaking the rules or making up his own as he went along.

The rules call for anyone campaigning, in person or on the airwaves, to be stripped of all their delegates, therefore Obama should lose all of his, as he broke the rules by running ads in Florida.

So if you want to keep screaming rules, please at least bother to find out what the rules are.

There is absolutely NO rule saying whoever is ahead in pledged delegates gets the nomination, that would be another changing of the rules.

tidho   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

We get it, you like Clinton.

What about Poland?, lol. Maybe there should be a primary there too. Sure the pre-negotiated rules that everyone agreed to said US only, but I don't see any reason that 90% of the way through we can't toss those rules out the window and and some additional primaries.

duane   May 6th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

"An effort to get the two states to hold a second round of primaries collapsed for a variety of reasons".

Those reasons being the Obama camp did not want these states to hold new primaries. They know that Hillary would win by margins bigger than the first round of primaries.

Patrice   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Gosh, Wolf
It appears that you just won't be happy until your canidate gets a revote in FL and MI. To tell you the truth, it really isn't the fault of the voters. It's the politicians (in particular in FL) that can't ever seem to get it right. Maybe the voters should be looking for new leadership in those states.
Thier party leaders broke the rules...PERIOD
Move on already, just evenly seat the delegate3 in MI since Obama's name wasn't on the ballot and give a 53-47 split to Clinton and Obama for FL;with Hillary getting the larger portion in FL. Stop wasting people's time and money with this.

Chris   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

You have got to be kidding me. Are the democrats trying to elect John McCain? You can't leave the question of who the nominee is unanswered for the entire summer and expect to win. Strategy plans need to be drawn up, staff hired, the loosers supporters need time to come down a bit and stop making voodoo dolls of the winner, etc. THIS CAN'T HAPPEN IN 2 MONTHS IF YOU EXPECT TO BEAT MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!! Why won't people get this idea through their thick skulls.

TKD   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Why should the party change its rules, when the rules were fair and clear to begin with? Only because Hillary Clinton is frantic to win, and doesn't care whether it takes changing the rules, cheating the rules, or flinging the rules off a cliff, to do it. Florida and Michigan have had ample time to fix their non-compliant primaries. They have been on notice for months. The rules should not be changed in the middle of the process.

bruce patras new york ny   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

wolf
this is a fake news story placed besides real news articles .
you are the one bringing these things up .yet you have no outrage
at all the rules hat were broken .and all those voters will still be democrats come november .
duh

Pete   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Wolf,
Please try to discuss your biased views with at least a modicum of common sense.
Obama has been thouroughly disadvantaged by the "vote" in Michigan and Florida. It is now completely impossible to get a free and fair vote in either state!
The only way this issue can be resolved is if the superdelegates and Obama's own lead in pledged delegates, can cover the Michigan and Florida delegations on some reasonable basis reflecting Clinton's "wins" in those states. Obama would still be getting sc-wed but he would still be the winner!

Jack   May 6th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

If we were to change the rules, we might as well change the rules on all those who have broke the law. What are we telling the young voters who trust the system. They have been told to follow the rules from day one. If the party elders change the rules, there will be not respect for the Democratic party. Maybe that's what theyare trying to do. Hillary was a Republican at one time. Her view on the Gas tax suspension makes me question if she really is a democrat. She is siding with John McCain. She even thinks that John McCain would be a better president than Obama. And she wants to Obliterate Iran if they were to attack Ireal. Where is the dipomacy. This is not good.

Concerned Voter   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Not counting the votes for two states is the equivalent to communism. Hold the elections and make this right. It is deplorable that this situation is allowed to occur and even worse when Obama, a presidential candidate, support this course of action. So much for new politics. He worse than all of them.

Amy from MIchigan   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

My state's party officials broke the rules and unfortunately, it's we the voters who have lost out. I'm not upset with the National Democratic Party or the candidates who followed the rules, just our own ridiculous state leaders! As much as I would like my voice and choice heard (Obama), I do not think our delegates should be seated. We broke the rules and now we need to live with the consequences! The country is tired of hearing Michigan and Florida residents whine........

Mel Springfield, Oregon   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

This race is not ending soon. Neither side will back down. They're just making it easier for McCain to win in November.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Yes, why not let Michigan and Florida have their say in determining the Democrat nominee and risk the losing the other 48 States in the general election that played by the rules and are more vital in the general election. So the idea of 2 verses 48 States makes no sense.

Sam in MN   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Nope. Counting Michigan or Florida in any way is a slap in the face to the 48 states that followed the rules.

The more this is discussed, the more the people in the other 48 states get soured on it.

If Michigan or Florida end up counting in any way, shape, or form, I'll vote for John McCain, and so will many others here.

it's all politics   May 6th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

what happened to the democratic position from 2000? I thought americans believed that all votes should count. it is ludicrous that fl and mi are not being counted.

folks who are saying these are the rules are just being political. they were probably not saying that in 2000. the rule that said the punishment to fl and mi should be that their votes are not counted is what needs to be changed. in america, the punishment is supposed to fit the crime. if you are saying the rules are the rules, does that mean you think it makes any difference which state votes first? that's the 'rules are rules' position, and it is dumb. i know i am teaching my children to think for themselves, and apply the golden rule, not that "rules are made to be broken."

if obama had won fl, he would be giving pretty speeches about having every vote count, and so would all of his supporters, especially that moron keith olberman

David   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Yes, yes, yes, yes! It will silence the Hillary supporters once and for all AND Barack will reach the needed number of delegates.

I say "Go for it!"

Steve   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

How can anyone argue that the folks in those states don't have a right to be heard because of a few "rules" that were made earlier by a few people. That's ridiculous and not fair to the people of those states. Without their votes counting, it will come back to sting the Democtrats in November. That much is a guarantee. Democrats need to come to their senses regarding this issue.

Babu   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

That's a great idea! We should some how include the voters of Michigan and Florida. Only Obama is afraid of a democratic process.

Joyce in Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Also, for some of you bloggers regarding our primary date being moved up to January 29th, it was our REPUBLICAN legislature that did this move; not the DEMOCRATS. Get it straight in your heads once and for all. Our votes should be counted and awarded from our January 29th primary. I am sure if you lived here, this would be your sentiment as well. So stop bashing the Democrats already. It wasn't our fault. GO HILLARY 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

leighg1   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Too bad that Obama does not want to engage in a negative campaign. He could have shown the Hillary Bosnia lie footage over and ever again as she did to him on his "bitter" comments. If he did, she would be crushed a long time ago. He did not even mention it unless when asked. I am sure the Republicans would if they need to.

Independent   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Wolf – think about "how exciting" it would be if on the second day of the convention it all came down to Florida? Have you lost your mind?!

No one with any sense wants this to go to the convention, because they know the democrats will LOSE in November if it does!!

Does Wolf want the democrats to lose?

Terry Williams   May 6th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

It wouldn't cost anything. Its all electronic on those states with touch screens. Just add two buttons for hillary/obama and a bunch of buttons depending on country, for the delegates. No one pays. Just gotta get people to officiate the voting process, which is already going on for the state and local elections.

nancy   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

NO WAY!

Hilda   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Wolf, can you imagine this crap going on for 2-3 more months, are you kidding me. This thing is ugly enough already, this can only help John McCain, can you imagine more time for this joke to go on. Wolf are you a republican, trying to find a cute way to destroy the democrats. We know for sure you don't like Obama,that is Obvious as for Hillary, not sure on that one yet.

Lisa   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

This is so disrespecful for the Obama supporters to say they do not want to include Florida and Michigan votes. Talk about will do and say anything to win. They are like crooks to me. If they are so confident that Obama is going to win why not let everyone votes count. His supporters remains me of the Superior Court in 2000 when they didn't allow Florida votes to count then. They can do and say whatever they want but Hillary will not drop out until those votes are counted and I don't blame her.

Mike   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Hillary Clinton signed a pledge not to participate in Michigan and then she broke the pledge by not taking her name off the ballot, as Obama and Edwards did. That makes her a liar and now she wants to benefit from her deception. This isn't about disenfranchising voters. This is about Hillary trying to win by breaking the rules. Hillary – when you say that more people have voted for you in the primaries because you are counting the votes in Michigan, you anger and alienate every single Obama supporter. Anyone who thinks that Michigan should count or that Michigan should re-vote or that Hillary leads in the popular vote is either delusional or being purposely obtuse. Before she started this Michigan nonsense I might have voted for her if she won the nomination, but now I will absolutely not ever vote for Hillary Clinton because of her blatant lies.

Candi California   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Dear Mr. Blitzer;

WE are sorry you and the best are running out of manufactured news. Stop trying to stretch the limits of your alice and wounderland world. You have been able to inpact this presidential election negatively( along with the rest of the media). You need to just pack it in and start reporting the news. I realize that is a difficult concept. However if you can't do that then dress all your pundits in clown outfits and have them discuss how the media screwed this one up.

What Really Happend   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

NO!

Alice in Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will vote for McCain in November, and NOTHING will change my mind – not 100 years in Iraq, not the overthrow of Roe vs. Wade – NOTHING. The most important issue for me personally is that Barack Obama stole my vote. If that's "Change," I want no part of it. Maybe Barack stole my Florida vote for Hillary, but he will not steal my November vote for McCain.

Simply Crazy!!!   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

To not have a democratic nominee until August is totally ridiculous! Who would ever agree to something like this? That would mean a sure victory for McCain.
Keep in mind, the general election is in November and personally, I don't think two months will be enough time to get the democratic party together.

Sometimes I often wonder do news outlets try to come up with the most outrage topics to get more viewers and/or bloggers!

HP Boston   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

YES, yes a thousand times yes.
Let's make this fair, all must be part of this primary.
We need to balance the caucus fiasco's and let two important states VOTE!
If you call this early with less than all the votes you lose immediately.
The Obama people do not want to be fair, they never do.

shawn   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

You may be the dumbest excuse for a journalist, I have ever encountered. Again stirring up controversy where it doesn't exist. For crying out loud. Go host a game show and let real journalists report the news. The rules were stated, and you heard them as everyone did.

JC   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

If DNC had taken FL and MI out, they should have reduced the number of delegates required for nomination.

Why is DNC still pondering at 2,025 delegates?
If 2,025 is a wrong number, correct it now.

SHIRLEY   May 6th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Sounds reasonable to me. A great idea.

Dyinglikeflies, NYC   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Real smart to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan, two swing states which can determine the election against McCain. Would it have been that hard to follow the Republican solution of seating only half the delegates as a penalty?

The Democratic party is a circular firing squad.

Alex   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Its simply too late. The last thing this party needs is to have this heated contest extend past June and potentially divide the democrats even further so close to the general election. It’s already gone on long enough as it is. Hillary needs to stop stoking the last ruminants of her campaign and risk hurting the party. She simply needs to look beyond herself for a brief moment and step down.

GL   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

So RULES don't matter? For Christ's sake CNN how obviously biased are you going to continue to be? Every story has a photo of Clinton, even her sign in front of Obama's on the one, and now dregging up this garbage... Don't even get me started on Wolf's daily stump speech for Clinton he masquerades as a news story. Absolutely shameful.

They broke the rules that everyone already agreed too. There are no do overs. Move on.

MD   May 6th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

They broke the rules. It's just that simple. Hillary is trying to steal this election. Here's a solemn promise from a young Democrat and I hope you are reading this, Howard Dean, since you are the DNC head:

You must take the lead and force Hillary to bow out of this election because she cannot win it without stealing the election. If she wins, you will alienate a majority of the youthful Democratic party. Who do you think is going to carry on the liberal mindset?

Fear the youth – we have energy and plenty of time. We will forge a new political party that isn't corrupted.

@americans   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

WOLF, WE GET IT!...YOU ARE DIGGING DEEP TO SEE IF HILLARY CAN STILL PULL THIS OFF!

GAME OVER – OBAMA WON, GET IT?!

WATCH YOUR BACK WOLF; YOU MIGHT BE SHOWN THE DOOR SOON WITH YOUR BIASED REPORTING!!!!

Dilly Wa   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

What about the rest of the states who waited their turn. MI and Fl were not put in front because the DNC wanted lower-income and minorities to have a fair say. It is Clinton who wants to cherry pick voters. Splint it 50/50 and get on with it or we'll lose to MCCain. August is way too late! We all need to remember what happened this time and be sure the DNC fixes the system before the next election.

Andy   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

What they should do is award 1 delegate to Hillary for Florida and 1 delegate to Hillary for Michigan. This accomplishes a couple of things. 1) The delegates get seated. 2) Both states get punished.

On the other hand, If MIchigan and Florida get to revote, the DNC should pay for Edwards to reenter the race since he would still have been a candidate. And whatever his vote total and apportioned delegates are, he can then give them to whomever he wants.

Case closed.

Kel in Auburn, AL   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

The fact of the matter is that both states broke DNC rules and they knew it. Beforehand. The candidates took their name off of the ballots, except for Clinton in Michigan and Obama & Clinton in Florida. Obama left it up the states to decide, and each state said no.

Obama abides by the rules. The Clintons just think that doesn't apply to them.

This wasn't an issue until Hillary started losing. Stop throwing her lifelines and let her lose fair and square.

Sam   May 6th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Rules are rules,

Michigan and Florida wanted to be slick and try and make their vote count ahead of others, and they failed.

Now you want to give them the ultimate decision? That's a reward, not a penalty for breaking the rules. If Michigan and Florida were to succeed and get a revote after all of the other primaries, then that tells all of the other 48 states that if you break the rules, you'll get an even better reward in the end.

New Democrat   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

This is an interesting idea, however, I am very afraid that waiting until August to select the nominee will not provide enough time prior to the general election and will thereby give the Republicans a real advantage.

Berkeley Guy   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Sure. Anything so that the voters of both states can vote and have their votes count.

Kevin   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Would someone fire Wolf Blitzer already? His spaceship is obviously not returning to this planet anytime soon.

Tom   May 6th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

No.

Rob -BC Canada   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

As I have said in many many posts you are not fair enough to post "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer.How does your garden grow.Laughable journalist ethics.

Manu   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Why does Wolf so concerned about FL and MI. It is for a long time he started talking about them. Is he a supporter of one of the candidates? Hey, I am not calling a name here.

Tex Dem   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Can you imagine the nightmare scenario of leaving it all up to Florida, when the dimwits in that state couldn't get it right in 2000? What makes anyone think they'd get it right this time?

Eddie   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

I am from Florida and feel if the rules were set and agreed upon by all candidates,including Hillary Clinton,why would we go back and try to change the rules now.In any competition there are rules,and if you brake them you taint the end result,so florida and Michigan are done for this primary season,get over it.

Indiana Dem   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Nice try Wolf but this thing will be over tonight after Clinton loses both states. I am looking forward to watching Wolf and Carville cry.

CNN, Post this.

Nick   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Let them vote.
Nobody needs Obamas agreement for this.
After all this is democracy and everybody's vote should count.

jim   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Michigan and Florida already voted. Not seating their delegates is a SCAM by the left wing of the party and it will come back to haunt them. This is not Zimbabwe!!! Let the votes count!!!

Anonymous   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

As I have said in many many posts you are not fair enough to post "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer, "Hillary" Blitzer.How does your garden grow.Laughable journalist ethics.

Donna   May 6th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

No. Just no. If a state decides it's not going to play by the rules and they were told what would happen if they went ahead with their plans, no way on earth should the rules be changed for them.

Earl   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

I say let the Superdelegates decide this thing.

Anyways, once Hillary wins Indiana today and comes within 5% in North Carolina, it will strengthen her case even more.

When she crushes him in West Virginia and Kentucky, well, I just don't see how Obama is even viable anymore.

Momentum is clearly on Hillary's side and its clear that Obama is not the Knight in Shining Armor many initially thought him to be.

On the basis of who's more electable NOW, it clearly is Hillary Clinton.

Actually, the mudslinging has switched sides and now its the Obama people crying foul and flinging insults like accusing Hillary of pandering.

Oh my how things have changed...

Yes, SHE can!

Hillary '08!

Sharon in Mi..   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

This is why people get upset and start writing in caps. Why should the rules be changed for the Clintons to get the results that they want. We started out as a party with an agreed upon set of rules, stick to them. Anything else will be recognized as wresting the nomination from Barack Obama. He has played by the rules and earned it.

Venus   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

This crap regarding MI election in August 2008 has more to do with the Republicans party and not the Democrates!

Rules are rules and laws are laws!

What part of english is the Clintons thugs are having trouble with?

It's time for Hillary to pack it up! Also – We are not going to the convention this year!

Go Obama!

Here's the real question – if this freak-show was the other way and Obama was behind – what do you think Hillary and her supporters and thugs think?

Joyce in Florida   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

After attending the recent Washington DNC rally on 4/30/08, I would prefer our votes be counted from the January 29th primary results. If a redo needs to be done for our votes to be counted, I agree that both candidates names should be put on the August 26th ballot. There would be no additional cost (except reprinting of the ballot) and there might even be a better turnout than on January 29th. I also would like to see the candidates campaign here this time. I believe that if this is done for August 26th voting, the results will hopefully show a stronger support for Hillary Clinton and that this contest will be over and Senator Obama will concede. I can only hope that she will be our nominee. I still support her 1000% and look forward to seeing her in the White House. GO HILLARY 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dianne   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Wolf and comany are just stirring up more stupidity. Seriously, these media people are trying to subvert democracy. Is anybody taking them seriously anymore?

Joe   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

I think this a great plan, it would not cost the tax payer anymore dollars and solve this major problem for the folks in Florida and Michigan. the one thing that will help keep it fair is DO NOT allow any campaigning period in either state, this would keep both canidates from blowing another 10 to 15 million trying to buy everybodies vote.
Great Idea ever came up with

SC for Hillary   May 6th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

We need to hold a primary for Fl and Mi right after the June 3 primaries
or before that day, the reason why we haven't had it is because Obama refused to have it, he would rather disenfranchised those voters, What is he afraid of A SCARED MAN CANNOT WIN., He will lose the general election even if he think it is okay to not count those votes, in fact even if those votes are counted and he is the nominee, The REPUBLICANS will keep the White House, Obama has no substance, he is an empty suit, we need a president that is experience, there is no room for Training Wheels in the White House.

charles   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Wolf
is not only a supporter his working fr her.

Gregg Gallagher   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I would be much more receptive to Hillary (and Wolf's) lamenting for the fate of FL and MI voters, if they had done so prior to it becoming clear that Hillary was trailing....

Hillary's position, although entirely self-serving, is quite understandable froma purely self-interest standpoint.

What is not clear is why a theoretically "neutral" journalist (Wolf) continues to take such a strong pro-0Hillary stance on this – and other issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think Wolf – like any other American – is entitled to his own personal political leanings. But PUH-LEASE – the notion that journalists can and should be neutral is absurd. I would much rather have journalists proclaim their leanings publicly so that viewers/readers can weight their observations accordingly.

And don't get me started on George S. over at ABC.....

Cammi317   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I say go for it...it won't make a bit of difference anyway. Obama is still going to win. After today the supers will weigh in, and he will reach the magic number. Next time if they want their votes to count, they should play by the rules.

EC   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Wolf, Are you out of your mind?! Yep, that would sure shore things up – Not!

I can't believe you would even mention such an absurd idea... Did Hillary put you up to this? ;-)

LT for Obama   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I say hold new elections and soon OR split the pledged delegates between the two candidates evenly.

I watched last night as many said they did not go out in Florida and vote because they were told it would not count. You CANNOT disenfrancise those people who wanted to vote but were told they would not count if they did. They were just following the rules as one lady said.

Play fair or don't play at all. Isn't that what we tell our children all the time? So as adults, why does this logic go out the window?

BAKERSFIELD   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

it would be changing the rules if somebody wins the nomination without achieving the 2025 to nominate.

Larry   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

This would only prolong the inevitable. While I have empathy for those in Michigan and Florida, we need to end this race - now.

silence do good   May 6th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

YES! Let's include the people of ALL states. I know Obama thought he got away with denying the revote. But it is time for justice and fair play. Let 'em vote – see what they have to say.

The people of this country are bigger than the cult. And we like to think for ourselves and not be called racist or be called foul names for not marching in lock step.

Hang in there Hillary – Obama's chickens will come home to roost!

Mark   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

This is really a ridiculous suggestion. The party will not do this so close to the general election.

R.I.F.   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Once again Wolf shows his love for everything Clinton.

Look idiot, The rules were set and all parties agreed to them before this race started. We cannot change the rules that everyone agreed to because we are trying to help someone out who is fighting a losing battle.

How about this, let's get the NY Gaint and New England Patriots back on the field to play one more quarter of the Superbowl to decide the winner of the Superbowl that's already been decided until the rules of the NFL. I'm sure the Pats would love that.

Report NEWS...not fariy tell scenarios to help your girlfriend out.

Nick - Arlington, VA   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

YEs so you guys can get 3 more months of ratings as obama and clinton do a death march to a Florida primary in late August........are you insane? maybe its that little beard you keep ridiculously trimmed on your face.....or the fact that your on tv idk...10 hours a day...they will be seated on MAy 31st (hopefully)...MI should be split 50/50 (Obama wasnt on the ballot) and FL should have 50% divided like the primary vote and the other 50% divided down the middle...with only the popular vote counting in FL, if at all....but at the end of the day Obama will still be winning and Clinton will be moving the goal posts until Kingdom come.

A .J in Fla   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

YES...!!!!!

Rebecca   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Wolf is an obvious Clinton supporter. He has been pressing hard for her without coming out and clearly saying it. His posts here clearly tell Wolf wants this race to go on and on so Hillary can possibly pull it out. Wolf, you are sad.

DJ   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Why do people always want to change the rules to suit them? Both states were aware of the rules, both states chose to break them. If voters in those states are "disenfranchised," then I recommend that they get new party leaders that will follow the rules and not screw it up for the voters in their state.

Jonathan   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

If this goes to convention Obama loses. This is the best option for him. Also, I think it's important to note that if this were the general election, Obama would be losing by almost 200 votes by now because it is a winner take all system. Remember, the way the Democratic primary is run it helps someone like Obama because he can clip a large amount of votes that Clinton gets in the big states. He won't have this kind of fallback in the general election and when he loses Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania he will lose the election. Wake up Obamabots. It's kind of like the round-robin thing when you beat someone, that person beats someone else, and the person they beat beats you...who is really the best? The important thing here is who will beat McCain and the only person that can do that is Hillary, not Barack. Just because he may have more pledged delegates at the end of the day does not mean that he can beat McCain. This is why there are superdelegates, to do what is right for the party. Obama himself said he would accept what the party says as long as it is within the rules, and superdelegates deciding the nominee is well within the rules. I don't want to hear anymore talk about stealing the nomination from Obama.

so ironic   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

FL and MI were penalized for breaking the rules. Now you want them to be the states that will be THE deciding factor in the nomination?

Those contests were unfairly contested!

This wreaks of corruption!!

charles   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

WOLF GO AND DO IT YRSELF U R OBSESSED WITH YR QUEEN. WE R TIRED OF YR MIN GAMES. EVERY DAY U SPEAK
I HATE U MORE.

Tjaye   May 6th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

I say split the votes 55/45 and be done. She only got 55% of the votes even when she was uncontested. Don't count it as a win in her column, just count the delegates. After all, Clinton claims that her only concern is that those voters have their votes count. The delegates can count, but she can't put the states in her pocket.

Obama O-8!

Dylan   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

It's useless to even report this except to get Hillary's supporters hopes up. Oh, wait, Wolf is a Hillary supporter...

Just fed Up with the Clintons   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

I do not think the DNC should include Florida or Michigan votes. The situation and circumstances were known by every executive and consumer participant in this process and yet, the date for the vote was moved up. What just amazes me is that no one is turning their ire towards the decision maker for moving the voting date up!! The DNC did not move the date up, they just advised what the rules and circumstances would be if that happened... well, it did happen, so now who is to blame?? Certainly not the DNC. Why should the DNC be held accountable for the Republican's decision??

Also, I can clearly speak for myself as I am from Florida, Floridians turned out because there was a very important item on the ballot for our state as well as our county. No one is speaking about why people turned out to vote, we knew our votes were not going to count in the primary.

vic nashville,Tn   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

To my understanding only3 people know how important the Florida votes
1) Karl Rove
2) G.W.Bush
3) Al Gore
So they have to answer your questions

David   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Wolf, Michigan and should be heard !!

Liberty   May 6th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!

Rules are rules- Florida and Michigan knowingly broke the rules. If the residents of that state are unhappy, they should call for the ouster for the governor and all the state legislators who voted to go against party rules since this is THEIR FAULT!!!

You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Anyone who thinks so is a SORE LOSER!!!

BAKERSFIELD   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

the reason they need to change the rules is because nobody will achieve the needed delegates to nominate. they will both fall short the rules don't read the closest to 2025. come on you people be sensible

John Smith,TX   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Hold a new primary was the right way to fix the problem but Obama and his camp opposes because he is leading in delegates count. Obama is accusing everybody of using a old politics but obama is double talk himself. If the DNC think that they can cheat Hillary by pushing her on the side they need to congratulate MCcain for the presidency. The only lead Obama is enjoying is the lead he's got from causes. Causes are not democratic. Will will see who will laugh at last if process is unfair. Clyburn needs to ahead and endorses Obama with all his talk. Obama is Black go ahead and endorse him.

wwf   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Are you nuts? Wolf. Are you afraid that you won't have anything to talk about? Maybe you want to see the Democratic Party come to an end. It has to end soon. If this keeps up all summer, there will be no party left. The Democrats have already loaded the gun for political suicide and will be pulling the trigger after June 1st. Any hope for the party rests in bringing it back together. That cannot be done between August and November. I must say that the media has done the best job in recent history of helping creating this mess with you thirst to tell the voters what you think is important instead of sticking to the issues that mattter. Just the humble opinion of an Independent who is tired of the media creating the new instead of just reporting and the Deomcratic Party acting like 3 year olds.

seth   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

THEY BROKE THE RULES....I AGREE TEACH THE CHILDREN....GROW UP AND LEARN THAT THE RULES WERE
BROKEN TOO BAD FOR FL AND MICH.... END OF STORY...OBAMA
WINS AND HILLARY SHOULD BE GRACIOUS AS OBAMA HAS BEEN
A GENTLEMEN ...TEACH THE KIDS...PLEASE!!

The Dude   May 6th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Sorry, Wolf. It may be exciting to you, but I need to know who my candidate is before August 26'th. That only leaves two months to bring the party back together. Look at how heated this whole thing has gotten now, just wait until the convention.

Obviously you guys benefit the most out of this, when it comes to ratings. Sellouts.

I'd like Obama, but seriously...
ANYONE BUT MCCAIN '08!

Jeanne from Michigan   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

As a resident of Michigan, I would to have our voices heard, but am not thrilled about having to wait until August settle this race. I say split the delegates 50-50. It is the ONLY fair way to resolve this. Michigan's "Primary" was such a sham and everyone knew it. So many people stayed home in protest of our idiot Govenor making us such laughing stocks of the nation. And Jennifer Granholm (Michigan's Gov) is also State Chair for Clinton campaign. Everyone smelled a rat.

Lee WV   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Boy the media would sure like to drag this on til August or Sept.I guess this would make it a little less unfair to hand the nomination to Hillary.Why be afraid to follow rules.Hey let's have another Super Bowl in Sept to see if New England can win.

kathleen retired Professional w/woman for obama   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

If she wins tonight, because 100,000 Republicans voted for Her
thanks To Rove, Limbaugh and Hannity, then it she won't give a
hoot about Fla. and Michigan.

Valerie   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Wolfe,
That's a very good idea. It would be an even better idea if they moved the august dates up to early July to still give locals time to campaign, but also that this doesn't drag on any longer.

As long as the Democrats are battling, John McCain has free reign to campaign all over the country without real opposition. I don't think the Democrats want him to go uncontested for so long, or want to have only 3 months before the Novemeber election to campaign.

Operation Chaos is doing it's job well.

Dave - Minneapolis   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

No. The party doesn't want to wait until August, and Hillary isn't going to win anything.

MI and FL: Learn from your mistake, and try not to screw it up next time.

Mike   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Under the 14th amendment of the constitution their primaries are legal. They just broke a two year old DNC rule is all.

However even if they would have waited a couple of weeks it would have still strongly gone for Hillary anyway. Obama's numbers were very low during the time that Florida and Michigan were "supposed" to hold their primaries.

so ironic   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Wolf,

This has all gone too far. If the DNC would need to change its rules to have a re-vote in Michigan and Florida, why establish rules in the first place. Again, this is changing the rules during the game which, I'm sorry to say, is unfair to BOTH candidates.

Also, it would only give the nominee two months to get ready for the general. This is a recipe for failure for the Dems. We need to end this race ASAP and get behind Obama who will win this race on a level playing field. Why drag this pointless prcess on when Clinton can't overtake him?

Robert in Toronto,ON   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Do the Democrats want to wait till the end of August to have their nominee??

That will give them...what? 4 weeks to heal the party and go after McCain and the Republican machine?

Trust me, this nominee WILL be decided by June 10th, if not sooner.

And the winner will be... Senator Barack Obama.

andrew in denver   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Why not? Because we cannot afford to wait until late august and continnue the bitter and negative campaign that HRC is running to continue to grind down our possible unity.

"Here's one thing to ponder – think how exciting that Democratic convention in Denver would be if on the second day it all came down to the Florida primary." – wolf

Only the republicans want that. No it is a bad idea, changing rules because you are losing is always a bad idea, i learned that in kindergarten.

masgap   May 6th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Fl and Michigan should be heard. this is America where all 50 states

should have a say. It could be done and should be done!!!

Richard   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

That would be a slap in the face to the 48 states that ran their primaries by the rules. Michigan and Florida approved these rules and then broke them; why should they be rewarded for doing so?

Karla   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

I cannot believe they are still talking about these two states. The states did what they did and they should pay the price. Hillary and Obama neither one cared about them when this happened early on because Hillary presumed she would be the absolute nominee. Now that those votes really mean something to her, she sees importance in it. Obama would have to agree so Hillary wouldn't get one up on him by cheating again!

PA_Hill-fan   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Yes, it is definitely a good idea to have primaries again in Michigan and Florida,.

Sharon   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

There goes Wolf. Stiring the pot as usual. Why don't you just tell the news instead of making it up as you go along.

Kathy Ritch   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

It would be divine (as in sublime) justice to have the nomination hinge on Florida down to the proverbial wire. The DNC wants to annoint a candidate long before the convention, however, so don't look to Howard Dean to sanction a change in rules to allow for a revote in August. He'd rather see the Democrats lose the Presidential election to the Republicans than give up on his attempt to insure that Obama is the candidate. Dean will "pack" all the Committees and add more Super Delegates to get his way. Who cares if it destroys the Party?

Mike, Raleigh   May 6th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

We are the oldest democracy and that is the way to go. You can not cheat florida/Michgan voters. They need to be counted.

Hillary is fact and Obama is act.

CW in DC   May 6th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Sounds about as fair a plan as any but if this thing lasts until August, I may be on meds!!!!!!!

Mark   May 6th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Wolf,

That's a really dumb idea.

Mark

Yes we can!   May 6th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Bad idea....how about the voters put the blame on where it belongs....ON THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS....how about we practice what we preach and follow the rules....how about the people of florida and michigan take to the streets of their local capital and city hall and protest there...it's not anyone's fault but of their local government as to the situation their in....Both Obama and Hillary agreed to the rules and it clearly shows the integrity of a person who is willing to use this for advantage or disaventage of the other candidate because it's convenient.....SHAME ON FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR BEING SO FAST AND THINKING HILLARY WAS GOING TO RAP THIS UP BACK IN JANUARY!....IOWA SPOKE AND THE REST OF US ARE SPEAKING NOW,,,,,OBAMA 2008/2012

Ryan H   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

If the main problem is organization and money problems, and they are desperate to seat MI and FL, why not have online voting? Use Driver's Licenses and such to get your chance to vote and then tally the online votes. It may not be the most effective or traditional method, but it could give a fairly accurate representation of what the voters want if they are desperately looking to seat MI and FL. A tiny problem would be the lack of computer access, so I suppose there would need to be a few hubs where citizens without computer/Internet access could go to vote.

Just a thought.

PK   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Shut up Wolf... you and your dragging accent

Maurice   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Yikes. The SECOND day of the convention?? that's ridiculous. Since the elections can't be decided without super delegate approval (and it's that way by design), the super delegates will decide before the convention and make FL irrelevant. Arguably. It already is. If you use pledge delegates as you metric, MI and FL aren't enough for Hillary. Popular vote is flawed since 4 states haven't even released their totals. Also, it depends on how you count it in Michigan. Even if you use delegates from FL and Michigan as is (as long as you give Hillary all the uncommitted delegates), Obama will win.

Jay in Houston   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Florida and Michigan should be added on one condition – if Obama is still leading in pledged delegates after adding the two, superdelegates should pledge to him, regardless of how narrow the pledged delegate margin becomes.

voter in AR   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

NO MORE LETTING EVERYTHING RIDE ON FLORIDA!

Haven't we gotten enough of all the, voting rights violations, hanging chads and court cases?

Sheeesh!

Michelle   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

You fail Wolf Blitzer. This is an obvious attempt to "create" news so that you and the other networks get more ratings. This is a TERRIBLE IDEA for the Democratic Party. Let it play out by the current rules without Florida and Michigan chumps who jumped the gun with their primaries. End of story.

John Sewell   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Who's floating this idea? The article never mentions the source. Is this just a Wolf Blitzer scheme or do either of the candidates wish this? Howard Dean gave a very clear explanation of why things are the way they are on the Daily Show last week. It boils down to this: We have rules. We're following the rules. We are also humane and will find a way to make sure both Florida and Michigan are present at the convention.

Why can't we just leave it at that? If there's one state in the union that needs a hard-knocks lesson in how to vote properly, it's Florida. Maybe some tough love is exactly what they need right now.

mama4obama   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Oh heck no. You would love that wouldn't you Wolf. Not happening. The DNC made the rules long before the race ever started. The ones that should be held accountable are the officials responsible in Florida and Michigan. Those votes should not be counted because those states chose to break the rules.

END OF STORY!!!!!

shan   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

as a florida voter, i'm not disenfranchised at all. it was our state gov't that did the harm, not the democratic party. our gov. knew there would be a penalty for his actions yet he did it anyway in an effort to sway the rest of the country.

no more crist!

Glenn Norton   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

You must be one of the few Liberals who really wants this thing setted at the convention. These two will never hug and work hand in hand. Bet on it.

Matthew   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Democrats think they lost the General Election in 2000 because of Florida. Not seating the delegates would probably cause a voter uproar in the General Election and lose the democrats the White House in 2008.

The democrats are throwing their voters for a loop, which is hurting the party. They say having two candidates is hurting the party? What about the DNC ignoring voters?

I'm a democrat. But, my party is ticking me off to the point where the Republicans, with their open door, and their cool composure, are looking inviting...

Matthew   May 6th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Well, in that case we might as well give the Nomination to Hillary. Its like playing cards or any game. Once you know the cards (the likely out of Flo and Mig primary) then continue playing as if you don't know it, you are actually cheating. Clinton should not have waite until the cards are played then to call for Florida and Mig.

VA

Eileen from Portland, Maine   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

It would be exciting from the media standpoint. They wouldn't have to spend money to pay anybody to actually do any indepth investigating in order to thoroughly tell a story. They could find something controversial about one of the candidates and just keep replaying distorted segments over and over until people who thought it was nothing begin to believe it is some huge story otherwise why would the media be so obsessed with it. Then they can spend another month or so reporting on peoples reactions to it.

Voice of Reason   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

They made their beds.....

Sue P / PA   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

They can vote as long as thier votes DO NOT alter the race concluded on June 3rd....Their state governments broke the DNC rules.. period................ I agree their votes are worth seating the delegates in a FAIR fashion, but, they cannot alter this race. There was enough time to change their dates to within the rules of the DNC......... they still went ahead with it............ sorry, but rules are rules

we dont need to teach our children that "rules are made to be broken"

California Dem   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Why reward them?
Why change the rules?
August....GOD NO!

Tiffany   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Blizter just made this up, since when is it the media's job to create political proposals? They broke the rules, they shouldn't put those "party elders" in power again if they don't like what they did. It's the states own fault. Screw Michigan and Florida for thinking they were special and could break the rules, don't reward by them by saying actually it's ok, here go ahead and we'll seat your delegates AND give you the very last votes in a critical election. No thanks.

Anonymous   May 6th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Reality Check ( which i should have done before ).

MATHAMATICALLY SPEAKING, ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR HILLARY CLINTON TO PULL THIS OFF NOW.

Michael   May 6th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

If Obama wasn't on the ballot on Michigan, then YES...do a revote. If he lost to Hillary fair and square, then Florida should be counted in Hillary's corner.

However, both states broke DNC rules and they have to pay for it. If I were the head of the party, I'd still penalize FL and MI for holding early elections and not have any vote that comes from the two states count. FL and MI would simply have to sit it out while the remaining 48 decided on the next president.

Kay, Goeriga   May 6th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

No... It's only good for the news media.. This race needs to be over soon.

Venus   May 6th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

That won't be happen! We are not going to the convention this year!

FL and MI BROKE the freaking RULES! End of story!

Wayne   May 6th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Wolf. Get this in your head buddy. MI and FL will not count because they broke the rules. The penalty of breaking the rules is that they do not count.

Why should the two states who violated the rules make the final decision over who should be the nominee??

Wolf. It's like this. If Hillary cannot win with the rules that were set out before the first votes were cast in Iowa..then she cannot win. The party will not bend over backwards and change the rules just to benefit one candidate or the other. Nice try Wolfe but your lady LOST!!!

HAA HAA HAAA..Watch Obama win NC tonight..this puppy is OVER.

sue   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

If this happens, the DEMS will LOSE the general election. What an absurd plan this is.

In augst we will only have 2 months to campain against McCain?!?! How crazy.

Ready for Change   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Pretty exciting Wolfe!!!!!

Jason   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Obama the FRAUD will never go for two more large states dumping him down the tubes !

Obama says Florida and Michigan DO NOT COUNT.

Obama is a FRAUD

Alan Boyer   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

again...changing the rules because some don't like the outcome.

Darryl   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Let just hold both elections in Jun 10th and let the clinton pay for it.

John, Miss   May 6th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Here is the problem with CNN in a nutshell:

"Adding that election to the already scheduled primaries for those two dates wouldn't add any additional cost to the states."

"They would simply have to print a new ballot."

I guess Wolf and team are paying for all the new ballots?

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