May 6, 2008
Posted: 07:55 PM ET
  Sister Julie McGuire, a polling place inspector, had to turn away about a dozen of her fellow nuns when they showed up without proper identification in South Bend, Indiana.
Sister Julie McGuire, a polling place inspector, had to turn away about a dozen of her fellow nuns when they showed up without proper identification in South Bend, Indiana.

(AP)–About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow sister because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow members of Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.

The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn't get one but came to the precinct anyway.

"One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,"' Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drive.

The convent will make "a very concerted effort" to get proper identification for the nuns in time for the general election. "We're going to take from now until November to get them out and get this done.

"You can't do this like school kids on a bus," she said. "I wish we could."

Elsewhere across the pivotal state, voting appeared to run smoothly, despite the fears of some elections experts that the Supreme Court's recent refusal to strike down Indiana's controversial photo identification law could cause confusion at the polls.

Indiana's photo ID law is the strictest in the country. The Republican-led effort was designed to combat ballot fraud, said supporters, who also have acknowledged that no case involving someone impersonating a voter at the polls has ever been prosecuted in Indiana.

The state's American Civil Liberties Union sued, calling the law a poll tax that disproportionately affected minorities and elderly voters, those most likely to lack such identification. On April 28,
the Supreme Court ruled 6 to 3 that the law did not violate the Constitution.

In a primary expected to draw record numbers, a voter hot line set up by the secretary of state's office mostly received calls concerning precinct locations, spokeswoman Bethany Derringer said.

But a group of voting rights advocates that established a separate hot line reported receiving several calls from would-be voters who were turned away at precincts because they lacked state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

One newly married woman said she was told she couldn't vote because her driver's license name didn't match the one on her voter registration record, said Myrna Perez of the Brennan Center Justice
at New York University's law school, coordinator of the 1-866-OUR-VOTE hot line. Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.

"These laws are confusing. People don't know how they're supposed to be applied," she said.

According to the New Voters Project, sponsored by Student Public Interest Groups, about a dozen college students at Notre Dame,Butler University and Indiana University said they were told at the
polls they didn't have the right form of identification.

Angela Hiss, a 19-year-old sophomore at Notre Dame, presented her Notre Dame ID card and her Illinois driver's license. Poll workers did not inform her that she could have cast a provisional ballot, she told project staff monitoring her polling place.

In some counties, polling locations ran short on ballots as voters flocked to Indiana's first meaningful presidential primary in 40 years. Indiana's largest, Marion County, had to print several thousand extra Democratic ballots because of increased demand in traditionally Republican voting areas, said Angie Nussmeyer, spokeswoman for the clerk's office.

"Primaries are very quiet, and I think the turnout we might see today probably rivals some of our general elections," she said.

In southern Jackson County, at least one precinct ran short of ballots and an electronic backup system failed. Poll workers made copies of ballots and planned to hand-count them, which was expected to delay results there.

Several precincts in northwestern Porter County, where Barack Obama was expected to do well, also ran out of Democratic ballots, and a judge ordered polls to stay open an additional hour.

Nancy Zondor of Chesterton said she went to vote at her Porter County polling site about 4 p.m. only to be told she would have to wait or come back for a Democratic ballot. She said she had to leave without voting to drive to her son's track meet.

"I was aggravated, for sure, it's a big election," said Zondor, who planned to vote for Obama. "I just always vote in every election and want to."

Since the Supreme Court decision last month, advocacy groups have fretted that people showing up to vote in Tuesday's primary would not understand their rights, which include being able to cast a provisional ballot and obtain a proper ID within 10 days so that ballot would be counted later.

Sean Greene, of the nonpartisan electionline.org, was monitoring precincts in the Lafayette area of Tippecanoe County. "It's going pretty well," he said, despite long lines. "Most of the people I've seen today are prepared and used to this. They have their IDs out already."

That thought was echoed in South Bend, where Elizabeth Bridges, 63, said half of the people working in her voting precinct were family members, but still she showed her ID.

"I think the law is a good thing because a lot of people are crooked," she said.

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Obatala, Yemaya, Oxun, Xango   May 6th, 2008 8:59 pm ET

I smell clinton operation chaos here…………….

Amy in Iowa   May 6th, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Not fair, but if it was a non-Obama vote….well…God forgive me.

Jay   May 6th, 2008 9:01 pm ET

boo

carrie   May 6th, 2008 9:05 pm ET

so thos was a ploy to stop obama.s voters from voting
no wonder hills could win
with the republicans and this stupid rule
this is no victory
its cheating

Herman in LA   May 6th, 2008 9:08 pm ET

Sorry but the rules are the rules even if your a nun.

rachel   May 6th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

What a shame.

Mary   May 6th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

Some one's goin' to hell, now…

Farrell, Houston, Tx   May 6th, 2008 9:15 pm ET

THIS IS A GREAT COVERUP TO SAY NUNS WERE TURNED AWAY KNOWING IT WAS OBAMA SUPPORTERS TURNED AWAY. I'VE LEARNED LONG TIME AGO "IT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAY, BUT IT'S WHAT YOU ARE NOT SAYING".

SweetPeacock   May 6th, 2008 9:17 pm ET

"A FACE IN THE CROWD" which was Andy Griffiths first film is interesting. The protagonist speaks of a candidate that will bring "CHANGE" and new ideas to Washington.
Face it- nothing is new and nothing will change. WE are in a sink hole that is going to swallow is all.
Thank you Obmamaites. You are creating a nightmare.
Clinton was our hope- but like Gore will be pushed aside. You think you are deciding…but you are being manipulated by the big bucks that dont want Clinton around..just like how they attacked Bill.
Good Job on the mess you are making.

Jane   May 6th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Voting sure has changed over the years….

Ron   May 6th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Good voting reform This hasn't been an issue is surely is now.

Ron   May 6th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Alice Ft Myers

Contact your elected officals , and stop throwing money away. She is in debt obivouly not savoy with your money . I'm sorry your canidate is not winning, but you need to growup and do whats best for the country.

Go Obama / Edwards 08

Sara   May 6th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Oh this is so wrong to stop a Nun at the age from voting. That is just cold and wrong. surely she cold not of known about the new rules. It is just plain wrong. God, will get you for that!!!

REPUB OF LA.   May 6th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

GOD BLESS THE NUNS, YOU PEOPLE ARE FOOLS AND ILLEGAL MEX'S VOTE LMAO!!

ABC   May 6th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

Hard to hear but she was right. Somebody should have been on top of this for these women making sure they were ready to go.

Dave, IN   May 6th, 2008 9:45 pm ET

Maybe CNN can find some paraplegic, blind, school teachers who were turned away to hype this story further.

Larry Buchas   May 6th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Some of this "show me your papers" Nazi tactics goes too far. I think seniors are at a huge disadvantage with these idiot laws.

I'm an Obama supporter and I say Sister, you should not be denied your right to vote.

belly   May 6th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

Alice in Fort Myers, FL — You need to vote out everyone who voted to moved your primary date in FL. Why does FL have to be the nation's headache. Quit whining and vote out your incompetent legislators and governor. That's who's to blame.

belly   May 6th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

Oh, sorry, my mistake, Republican trying to disrupt the primaries alert.

belly   May 6th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Farrell, Houston, Tx — Catholic voters have overwhelmingly to Hillary.

belly   May 6th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Nuns are Catholics, right?

Doug, Florida   May 6th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

Blacks voted for Bill Clinton in large numbers. Black vote for almost all democratic candidate in large numbers. But because they are vote for one of their own now they are racist?

People get a life!!!

They are voting for the candidate that can win

Western Voter   May 6th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Isn't America sopmething? This is the fearful nation George W. Bush has created. Vote Bush/McCain and continue the legacy!

NotALemming   May 6th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Oh, HERE come the bleeding hearts!!!!! A million illegal aliens can't vote now, but a half dozen nuns have a problem at the polls…. Dear me, the sky is falling!!!!! Can we hype this story any more, CNN?

Ted:Canada   May 6th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

An outsider’s perspective!

I am a white older Catholic Canadian – born and raised!
I know that it is none of our business but I want to congratulate all the white voters who supported Obama. You are very best!!! All Obama supporters!
I have to be honest! I can’t always say that I supported and respected my American neighbors. There have been times when there was significant doubt!

Without saying one word, the impact that Obama will have on the world yes! the WORLD will be significant, In terms of changing the world’s perception of America THIS IS HUGE!!! Stronger than any army – you watch!!!!
CNN should do a story on “The World is Watching”

I can tell you that I have not been a greater supporter of the American national anthem,
But for me the words “ land of the free and home of the brave” will take on a whole new meaning!

God truly bless you America!!!!!

jack   May 6th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

the fact that some of you are actually saying that these nuns were turned away because they are Obama supporters need to find a better conspiracy theory to talk about.

also, why is this a story? is it just because the word nuns attract an audience? what about the others who didn't have a photo id. the sensationalism here is outrageous.

David, Atlanta, GA   May 6th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

If they are in their 90s, they are probably Clinton supporters.

Rene in PA   May 6th, 2008 10:26 pm ET

Oh dear, oh dear… nuns have been held accountable…

How much better off would this country be had the nuns held their priests accountable for the many molestation atrocites?

What?? What??? They didn't denounce them and leave the church??

Oh dear.

Sorry. But the nuns get no sympathy from me.

Chris, Middletown, CT   May 6th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Say it isn't so…..people have to follow rules….no way….

Rene in PA   May 6th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Bah - in moderation, AGAIN… pffft…. Hello, Moderation Person Who Is Determining Whether Or Not My Comment Is Offensive =). Let this slide thru … Be a pal…

Rene in PA May 6th, 2008 10:26 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Oh dear, oh dear… nuns have been held accountable…

How much better off would this country be had the nuns held their priests accountable for the many molestation atrocites?

What?? What??? They didn't denounce them and leave the church??

Oh dear.

Sorry. But the nuns get no sympathy from me.

Clift, Burlingame, CA   May 6th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

What is wrong with the nuns? Why didn't they understand the new rules that were all over the TV, newspapers and internet?
This looks like a "I don't got to follow no stinkin' rules" attitude.
Pack them off to Florida to be with all the others who have trouble figuring out how to vote.

Ernest   May 6th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

Who cares, they are Clinton's supporters anyway.

Willy   May 6th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

who cares

fred   May 6th, 2008 10:54 pm ET

This is just like any voter in Indiana. I thank there new voting law should have gone in effect in July. The fiscal year. This is just another way of not letting people you can prove who they are not able to vote.. This is a privilege afforded all American's … They can cross reference this person at the voter registration office when they count the votes.

Bonnie   May 6th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

I believe that ALL states should required ID. However, I also think that if show up to vote where an ID is required, you should be able to cast a PROVISIONAL ballot, based on providing proper ID afterwards.

Indiana provides a FREE ID card to all citizens. The good sisters should have gotten such. However, the fact that they were in their nineties may have been a factor in their not realizing this.

I think we need to protect the voting rights of the ELDERLY which is the real issue in this case. Again, permitting them to vote utilizing a provisional ballot would have been the way to go.

Karen in Ohio   May 6th, 2008 11:01 pm ET

more than ever, tonight, Clinton has show clearly that her drive for presidency is for her and her family only, not for American. It is her ambition, her dream that once again override the need of people and the country, even her own party.

The harder she "work her heart out," the more she'll feel sorrow about it. What goes around, what comes around.

JC   May 6th, 2008 11:06 pm ET

Sorry, the law is the law.
I am really glad the supreme court decided to enforce voters' ID verification. If one really wants to, it's very easy to get a state photo ID even if you don't drive. My father has got one and it's free from DMV.

JR   May 6th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

Rene in PA -

Yes, it is sad the Nuns could not vote, but it is a published law on the books in IN. How refreshing that ANY law is being enforced at this point!

And the comments about molestations by priests - uncalled for in the forum. Nuns are steeped in the tradition of the church and, while condeming the violation and the violator, would not denouce and leave the church. They would not abandon their God regardless of the sins of the individual. Foolish.

READY999   May 6th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

INDIANA HAVE BACKWARD LAWS–PHOTO ID-POLLS CLOSING AT 6P.M. WHILE MOST WORKING BLUE COLLARS TRYING TO GET TO POLLS FROM WORK.STUPID-STUPID STATE!

Charles   May 7th, 2008 12:13 am ET

That is rather unfair. I mean really, are these old ladies, nuns in fact, going to go in and lie about who they are? They should have been allowed to vote no matter who they were voting for. This is a Republican made problem.

Christopher Coleman   May 7th, 2008 12:15 am ET

While a lot of topic was being held about Lake County and its late reporting, no one mentioned the much smaller county of Union which virtually have no reports after Gary had released 28% of their votes. Why not wonder about Union county.

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