May 8, 2008
Posted: May 8th, 2008 03:15 PM ET

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WASHINGTON (CNN) - Hillary Clinton made a personal appeal to Barack Obama Thursday to work with her to make sure Florida and Michigan Democrats votes are counted in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Clinton and Obama are at odds over how to deal with these two states, both of which broke Democratic National Committee rules that resulted in their loss of delegates. Clinton would benefit if Michigan and Florida delegates were allocated according to their January primary results. She made the appeal in a letter that was made public by her campaign.

(Full letter after the jump)

Full text

May 8, 2008

Senator Barack Obama

Obama for America
P.O. Box 8102
Chicago, IL 60680

Dear Senator Obama,

This has been an historic and exciting campaign. Millions of new voters have been brought into the process and their enthusiasm for the Democratic Party and the principles for which you and I have fought and continue to fight is unprecedented.

One of the foremost principles of our party is that citizens be allowed to vote and that those votes be counted. That principle is not currently being applied to the nearly 2.5 million people who voted in primaries in Florida and Michigan. Whoever emerges as the Democratic nominee will be hamstrung in the general election if a fair and quick resolution is not reached that ensures that the voices of these voters are heard. Our commitment now to this goal could be the difference between winning and losing in November.

I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted. We cannot ignore the fact that the people in those states took the time to be a part of this process and to make their preferences known. When efforts were untaken by leaders in those states to hold revotes to ensure that they had a voice in selecting our nominee, I supported those efforts. In Michigan, I supported a legislative effort to hold a revote that the Democratic National Committee said was in complete compliance with the party's rules. You did not support those efforts and your supporters in Michigan publically opposed them. In Florida a number of revote options were proposed. I am not aware of any that you supported. In 2000, the Republicans won an election by successfully opposing a fair counting of votes in Florida. As Democrats, we must reject any proposals that would do the same.

Your commitment to the voters of these states must be clearly stated and your support for a fair and quick resolution must be clearly demonstrated.

I am asking you to join me in working with representatives from Florida and Michigan and the Democratic National Committee to arrive at a solution that honors the votes of the millions of people who went to the polls in Florida and Michigan. It is not enough to simply seat their representatives at the convention in Denver. The people of these great states, like the people who have voted and are to vote in other states, must have a voice in selecting our party's nominee.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


maxine, texas   May 8th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

What a bunch of self-serving crap! And the timing! So typical of the Clinton campaign tactics. There is nothing in this letter but manipulation...no proposals, no solutions...just trying to make Obama look bad. Listen, it would be totally unfair to seat Michigan because Obama wasn't even on the ballot since he was following what the DNC had decided. And so many Floridians didn't even vote because they knew their votes weren't going to be counted. If Florida and Michigan were counted as is, it would be totally unfair and not representative of . Clinton can't catch Obama anyway, either in delegates or popular vote, so it's a non-issue.

Ludovic   May 8th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

She just refused the proposition of the Michigan dems!
they proposed 69/59 for here. I think that this was fare.

John Lear, Burlington, IA   May 8th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

You agreed, Hillbilly that the votes wouldn't count, how can you write such a letter to Obama, you are living in a pipe dream world, where anything you agree to does not mean that is what you really mean. How can we trust you to run this nation. You are done and I'm soooo glad you lost. I hate looking at you and hearing that schreechy voice, a liar, and a cheat.

All Votes Should Count   May 8th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan. He did this in order to isolate Hillary and pit Iowa and NH against her. He gambled and he lost. He also ran a campaign there to have people vote uncommitted. Hillary was smart and left her name on the ballot. She did not campaign there in any manner whatsoever. She should get all the delegates or at the very least all of the delegates that she earned. The delegates resulting from the uncommited votes should be split between Hillary and Obama based on the percentage of her win (around 55% (not sure of exact %)). In Florida, Obama ran a national campaign ad despite agreeing to not campaign there. His name was on the ballot (he learned from his Michigan mistake). Hillary did not campaign there at all. These votes and the delegates should be divided as they voted. Because Obama willingly took these actions, he should not be rewarded for them. He knew what he was doing and therefore he should not benefit from cheating. Hillary and Obama should debate the matter in front of the American people and each lay their case for why the votes should count (Hillary) and why they should be suppressed/disenfranchised (Obama). Seems fair to me.

says it all   May 8th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Why is Obama blocking a revote if he is confident that he is the most desired candidate?

Seems ironic to position yourslef against the voters whose votes you need in Nov.

Photon Torpedo Dallas, TX   May 8th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

I heard a poster on the Ticker here once say:

"Being a Clinton means never having to say you're sorry."

Yes We Can & Yes We Should
Obama 08'

Go McCain   May 8th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

This is great news for the Republicans. Keep fighting–you're making McCain's job so much easier. For all you HIllary backers who won't support Barack, jump on the McCain train. It's the only train headed in the right direction–to the White House.

Theresa in Minneapolis   May 8th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

She is shameless. I mean come on, Hillary! YOU LOST. Even with those delegates seated, you do not have enough. How do you seat delegates in a state that YOU were the only corrupt individual that actually left your name on the ballot.

This is more of her pandering for sympathy! You're supportors have big mouths but they don't seem very interested in actually supporting you monetarily, now do they?

I wish Obama could just pay your debt and send you home once and for all. Where is home again? PA? NY? AR? No one really knows.

Cindy in Canada   May 8th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

You Clinton supporters are a piece of work. You blame Obama because he agreed to the rules ALONG with Clinton. When things don't go your way you all act like racist little children. Just remember the world is watching to see what kind of USA you want to be. You have a chance to move towards a brighter future and all you want to do is sling mud so your pathetic lying, manipulative candidate can win. You all need to grow up (I think pre-school children are more intelligent) and stop grasping at straws. Thankfully it sounds like you are in the minority and that common sense will actually prevail this November. GO OBAMA !!!

Kristina   May 8th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

((((Please for the love of the country, accept this. I have full confidence that the DNC will find a way to seat the delegates. But this postering in the public to TRY and make yourself look good is failing big time.)))
Adam…..
That is the very problem I have with Hillary…she has NO love for this country. She is shamelessly selfish and only cares about winning for herself. Even a blind person, who has never seen her detached face, and only heard her cold words… could tell this. But since you are reading this...that means YOU can see so OPEN your eyes because this is truly pathetic.

says it all   May 8th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

I TOTALLY concur.

This primary has had enough corruption to make a lifelong democrat flee.

So... DNC fix this mess... or worry in Nov.

Anne E.   May 8th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

NOTE to Chicano Art in AZ:

You do not speak for this Latina - I'm an Obama supporter ALL THE WAY, thank you very much.

Zion   May 8th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Hillary, how dare you want to play with the big boys and then beg a man to save your dying political future.

GO OBAMA!

Kent in Dallas   May 8th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

What about the large portion of voters who didn't vote because they knew it wouldn't count??? Most of them were African American. I don't care if you love, like, or hate Clinton you have to see that she only cares about FL and MI because its in her best intrest. If she was so worried about disenfranchising voters, seating the delegates would be sufficient. In the end that's what matters. But since she's trying to make the popular vote arguement, delegates aren't good enough. I am a Obama supporter. If he was trying to pull this crap, I wouldn't be behind him. Wrong is wrong and I would not follow someone so blindly.

P.S.:If this is a "personal plea" why does CNN have it???

Media Blackout May 15th   May 8th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

It's 4:34PM EST

Has the Gimmick Candidate changed her mind and restated her FL Delegate request to include space aliens yet?

Hillary Clinton, The Gimmick candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything "08

No Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

All of these Obama people get on here and sound off nasty, just like in the caucausing process. How can you donate so much money? Sitting around at work waiting for the next ticker? Don't work?

Alex H   May 8th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Yeah... she's consistently said that... NOW

But when her supporters on the Rule Committee were pressing for it, where was she?

Oh and... why did her campaign just now decline Michigan's plan to seat the delegates?

Oh yeah... cuz it only gives her a +10 delegate boost instead of a +18 boost... why? Cuz it doesn't honor the votes...

AH!!!!!

RB   May 8th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

MI and FL is a dead issue. Get over it. If the democratic voters of those states want to take their anger out on someone, it should be their spineless elected officials who didn't represent them when they had the opportunity to make a difference (kinda like the super idiots are failing the rest of us today) before the primaries even started. Good bye Hillary!

Tony   May 8th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

It's not up to her or Obama to decide the party rules. First of all they all voted for them, including her. Now that the numbers are against her and she wants to change the very same rules she voted for. And second, Obama should be the last person that she should have face to ask for help in changing the party rules (that she also approved). It's unfortunate that Florida and Michigan challenged the rules. Everyone wants votes from there to be counted but how, this is the problem. We all know that there wasn't a real contest there as most of the people knew that even if they voted their votes would not count. Hillary is not offering a solution, just propaganda. Maybe they should all sit down and vote on new rules for the next election, and when they decide something for the next election to make sure not to allow individuals to even try changing rules afterwords.It just sounds pathetic.

Bill, Florida   May 8th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

If Obama does indeed have the nomination already, then what harm would it do? If he agreed to a plan to seat the delegates in Florida and Michigan, it would probably help his chances of winning those states in November. It would be politically stupid to refuse to seat the delegates of Florida and Michigan at this point in the race.

Anita   May 8th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

why is it that people can't see through Hillary's fakeness and push her aside i mean we don't want a president that is just doing it for herself but for the people of the U.S. i mean we don't want another bill clinton in office.look at this way is this a fight for Hillary's pride or for the people?there are other things i would say but like obama says change is best, which is what he is trying to change in the white house tradition.

Phil from Boston, MA   May 8th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

I’d like to see Obama start delivering on some of this so-called Change he promises, since he has yet to do that. His background and actions make him look like quite the Washington Insider, who is very comfortable with the new brand of lobbyist and doesn’t mind ignoring votes of states that don’t go his way (Does anyone else feel that this is reminiscent of W's election by the Supreme Court, and not the people?).

I mean, if he’s so superior, if he’s so much in the lead, if he truly has the clamp on the popular vote – why doesn’t he stand by his message and call for them be seated? No revote required, no money spent.

But, he won’t do that. Probama Nation will continue to sling mud at Hillary, while calling foul (or, most often, racist) when someone on the other side points out the mud on their fingers. Talk about dividing the party.

jim   May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

yes mich. and fl. delegates should be counted. i thought everyones vote counted . i think its wrong that people are swallowing this false belief of hope and change. people forget that the president is just a figure head , the congress and senate really runs the country. so go for it hillary you got my vote.the country would be better off with an experienced candidate instead of a rookie.

ben   May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Mrs. Clinton’s letter to Obama sounds like the voice of a desperate witch crying in the wilderness.
Let Mrs. Clinton hang on to her selfish interest and continue even beyond the nomination of Obama.
She can as-well decide to form her own Democratic party, nominate herself and contest along Obama against McCain.
The news of Rep. David Bonior endorsement of Obama will be the sweetest news today.
Edward and Obama are my political mentors.
Edward and Obama represent the new face of American politics. The days of the Clintons, the bushes are over and over for good. The American people are wiser now.

Margaret Williams   May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Hello from Canada! Sen. Obama This is margaret from Canada. We applaud what you and your campaign represent.. It is time for America to step into the 21st centurary with the rest of the developed world. Please do not ask Hillary Clinton to be your running mate. Hillary is a representation of the old washington style politics you are trying to "Change" Would you consider John Edwards? He champions for the poor and is more in line with your brand of politics.

Margaret From Canada

ShirleyY - Seattle   May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

HILLARY YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK SO STUPID AND SILLY. YOU WOULD MAKE A HORRIBLE PRESIDENT, WITH YOUR MENTAL DISORDER YOU WOULD GET ALL AMERICANS KILLED, BEING ANGRY WILL ALLOW YOU TO MAKE THE WRONG DECISION.

Rena   May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Heavenly Father,

I pray now in the name of Jesus that you would convict all individuals who have hate or unrighteous judgments due to a person’s skin color or gender. Father, I pray for salvation for those who are lost. I pray that you would forgive those who act and say things out of ignorance. Father, I now pray for all candidates that you would protect them from the wicked devices while on this campaign trail. Father, may you put words in their mouth that with edify You and the American people. I pray that You will bring forth your perfect will for us a President that will be lead by Your Spirit, that will guide us on a righteous path as a country, that will seek You for wisdom and insight concerning us a nation, that will think of this country as a whole and not a selfish ambition for themselves, and above all will love You and seek you for counseling concerning all things. Lastly, I pray your word that says that we should love one another as Christ loved us, for He loved us until the point of death. Father, help us to remember that you sent your Son here to teach us to love and to forgive one another of each short comings. Also, help us to know that when you see us You don't see color but you see spirit which is our heart. Help us to remember that no man can enter into Your kingdom that break your law of grace. Father, I thank you for forgiving us even when we can't forgive others, I thank you for loving us when we can't seem to love each other, I thank you for being merciful to us even when we can't show mercy towards others, I thank you for patience even when we can't be patient with each other, I thank you for not judging us as we judge each other, and above all I thank you Jesus for dying for our sins because without your death and blood shed we would TRULY die in our sin.

Amen!

AMERICA WHEN WILL WE GET IT RIGHT? JESUS HAS SET A PATH FOR US TO WALK RIGHT IN SO WHEN WILL WE DECIDE TO TAKE IT?

Charlotte   May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Have you people forgotten Kerry approached McCain to be his VP? Who is the real uniter, McCain. Who has sponsored bills with Democrats, McCain. Who loves his country more, McCain. Who will win in November, McCain.

Kristina   May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

((((Please for the love of the country, accept this. I have full confidence that the DNC will find a way to seat the delegates. But this postering in the public to TRY and make yourself look good is failing big time.)))
Adam.....
That is the very problem I have with Hillary...she has NO love for this country. She is shamelessly selfish and only cares about winning for herself. Even a blind person, who has never seen her detached face, and only heard her cold words… could tell this. Open your eyes because this is truly pathetic.

Kevin   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

When is CNN going to report Hillary's shrinking super-delegate lead.

Isn't this her ONLY hope?
Inst this trend just the opposite of what Hillary needs to be nominated?

2 weeks ago her lead was 22 SD.
1 week ago her lead was 16 SD.
3 days ago her lead was 13 SD.
Yesterday her lead was 12 SD
Today her lead is 8 SD.

WHEN CNN WHEN

No Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Bukky: Hoodwink us? Are you running for presidential nominee?

Harvey in Va   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

He does not care now but in Nov when Fl and Mi turn on the Dem party and rightfully so he will see his once in a life time chance dissapear forever

melikeyhill   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

its time to break the two family curse.....no more bushes or clintons in the white house....America lets rescue our democracy.....any more bushes or clintons in the white house is lunacy!!!

Media Blackout May 15th   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Has the Gimmick Candidate announced she just met with David Blain and he showed her how to levitate which qualifies her to the nomination yet?

Hillary Clinton, The Gimmick candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything "08

Q   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Penalize the states by giving the delagates 1/2 votes then split them 50/50. DEAL!

Xango   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

she always forget convenienltly that SHE AGREE to the rules,
she always does this

LIAR clinton go away

dan davenport   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

.....straws and yet, more grasping at straws. Hillary, for the sake of the democrtic party. CONCEDE!!!!!!!!!

rosetta   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

the clintons used to be my favorites. i even liked them when obama was running but NOW i am so disappointed in both hillary and bill. I've lost a lot of respect for them. what you agreed to in the beginning is said and done. like the previous writers because she is losing now she wants to change the rules. that is an act of desperation. it is not good for her or the country. she should bow out with grace and dignity. help heal this country. we are all one people in this great country-white, black, asian, whatever and we should all have this great country at heart. everyone should be pleading with hillary and bill to try not to damage their image more than it is being damaged. let us not try to destroy each other for the sake of self, it is sad. let us all pray for this country and all of our politicians who will be leading this great nation and in turn the world. help to bring our children home from Iraq and use those billions to re-shape this country in education, prisons, jobs, etc. GOD bless AMERICA

Peter Das   May 8th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

If Democratic party want to win comming November election for new President. Democratic party shpuld nominee Hillary clinton, only she can defeat MacCain.
Otherwise it is very dificult to win. Obama is very good speaker, but having no experiance and too young he can wait another 4 or 8 years. He has a future. If Obama really love America then he should wait .

fred   May 8th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Shows you how stupid Obama is.....take his name off a ballot....Stupid, Stupid, Stupid!!

You want that stupid person in the White House....he is more stupid than Bush....and Bush is STUPID!!!

Beth form Jersey   May 8th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

But she didnt "consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted." In the beginning she agreed that they shouldnt be counted.

Yoselly Ramos Democrat NJ   May 8th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Dear Obama,
WAA WAA WAA WAA!!!
It's not fair that you are winning and I'm not!
WAA WAA WAA WAA!!!
And please let me win or im going to tell bill
to beat you up!
WAA WAA WAA WAA!!!

Jesus Christ somebody please tell this woman how DESPERATE &
PATHETIC she's become!!!! This not a leader!! this is a SORE LOSER!!! PLEASE HILLARY, LET IT GO!!!!!!

Obama 08ll

Zack Mac   May 8th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

We need to think about General Election. This non sense should be over.

Media Blackout May 15th   May 8th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

IT's 4:30PM EST

Has the Gimmick Candidate restated her FL delegate request to include the residents of Saturn yet?

Hillary Clinton, The Gimmick candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything "08

Disgusted Observer   May 8th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Hillary's behavior reeks of desperation. I for one don't want a potential president that crys for votes, brings race into the equation and is willing to do asnine things for votes (gas holiday– 100s of economists and two nobel laureates agree that it is a stupid idea that won't help anyone). I guess Clinton's supporters aren't really into crazy things like "science" and "numbers" though. I'm really disappointed that she can't understand that she isn't helping the Democratic Party by hanging on......it's time for her and Bill to face the facts and get behind Obama. I ran to my voting bureau (Oregon) to make sure I registered as a Democrat in time to participate in the primary.....and DEFINITELY will be voting for Obama! By the way people, "loser" is spelled L-O-S-E-R, not "looser". Or perhaps you were spelling your own names.

Festus (Australia)   May 8th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

This is a DEPIRATE candidate(Hillary),Pres.CLINTON said that OBAMA would not go more than a state when the race commenced .Now, the unexpected is surfacing,Hillary who once said that FL&MI would not count is now accusing OBAMA of not allowing them.
Let both of them go back to FL&MI for fresh election after new tour/campaing.

Baje   May 8th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

This is a last desperate attempt for a desperate poor ran campaign.

Zack Mac   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Even if MI and FL are seated they way they are originally, Obama is still ahead. Obama is our next president Peace !!!

yes we can   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

this woman is hungry for power no matter how.i bet its not about america that matters her power power power nothing more.she wants to be the first american woman president thats all.i dont think she is normal,she really needs help.its better she goes back and learn how to make cockies.or better send her to MENTAL HOSPITAL

Mark Johnson   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

What part of "rules are rules" does Clinton and her apparently amoral supporters not understand?

How can anyone with an ounce of integrity suggest counting ballots that did not even include Obama's name?

And she and her supporters wonder why we can't stand her.

GiveBarackAB'reak   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

OK, let's talk about fairness. In the Michigan primaries, Obama wasn't even on the ballot. How fair was it then for the Obama supporters in Michigan who had no voice? Or do they not count? How's it fair to count Michigan votes for Clinton, if there were ZERO votes for Obama.

Julian - Los Angeles, CA   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

To everyone,

She's not firing her last shots and she's not grapsing at straws...nowhere in the letter does this say REGARDLESS THAT THIS WILL BENEFIT ME...she is a VERY smart woman and the reason why my vote is and has always been for her. She knows that you cannot disenfranchise this many voters, especially to a state as crucial as Florida. Obama knows he didn't get those states (at least Florida since he was on that ballot) and he'll still be ahead in delegate count. He needs to help to resolve this issue because these are two states that the Dems are going to need come November...regardless of what side of the Obama/Clinton fence you are on.

Hillary 08

Hillary, please "obliterate" yourself !   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Hillary, please "obliterate" yourself !
I cant believe this B/Witch(cant call her a woman anymore).She is against human race or what?I had lot of respect for her, but everytime she opens her mouth she spits arrogance & hate.

Time to show her the door and shes past exiting "gracefully" or with any dignity.

Am sure she threatened the super delegates to hold thier endorsements or they will be obliterated.
Sad, because of all this the image of US is tarrnished !

Hillary, please "obliterate" yourself !

proud army and navy mom   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

old girl knows full well that the delegates will be seated. this is another dirty trick to get someone to pay attention to her.

IGNORE HER AND MAYBE SHE WILL GET TIRE AND GO AWAY

Media Blackout May 15th   May 8th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Has the Gimmick Candidate announced the only way she'll drop out is if Obama allows her daughter to be his running mate yet?

Hillary Clinton, The Gimmick candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything "08

Ruben Lopez   May 8th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Regardless of rules and regulations, there is no way OBAMA or CLINTON will get the required pledged delagate with the remaining primaries (some folks still don't get that). Super Delagates should stay out of this fight and let the voters decide. Florida & Michigan must be counted or next January will be very painful for Democrats all across the country.

Talk About The Weakest Link   May 8th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

This lady is suffering from mental health issues.

What else can explain her latest proclamation, that "hard-working white Americans" will not support Barack?

Hillary's supporters should do this lady a big favor, and get her off the stage before she degrades herself any further.

Hillary, please "obliterate" yourself !   May 8th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

I cant believe this B/Witch(cant call her a woman anymore).She is against human race or what?I had lot of respect for her, but everytime she opens her mouth she spits arrogance & hate.

Time to show her the door and shes past exiting "gracefully" or with any dignity.

Am sure she threatened the super delegates to hold thier endorsements or they will be obliterated.
Sad, because of all this the image of US is tarrnished !

Word Bomb   May 8th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Goggle: Obama or Hillary or McCain and the Council on Foreign Relations or the Trilateral Commission and see what you come up with. These people are not working for the American people!!

Vote for Ron Paul or Ralph Nader -it is a real vote for change!

Hill- Here to stay   May 8th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Hillary got screwed in this primary and Obama got all the advantages.

If Obama wins, he wins by cheating.

Many voters will not vote for him in the GE because of that.

We will make a statement to the DNC.

Sallie Mae, ExXXXXXX-Hillary Supporter   May 8th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

I agree with Karen above!!!...

He should send her a letter back with the form that she signed agreeing that the results wouldn't count; and don't forget to send it to the press.

Yea Jack, where is that form? Can't you get a copy!??

Women for Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

As a woman, I have to say that this is very, very sad behavior. Be a true lady and leader. Admit that you fought a hard fight, but it's now over. Step back gracefully, not kicking and screaming.

H-ROD   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

HILLARY, STOP TURN AROUND AND JUST LEAVE PLEASE JUST LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes OBAMA CAN !

Tiachi   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

She is really making people SICK and turning them off... Enough is enough. This is definitely a media ploy to see if the public will start to blame Obama. She is just damaging the whole thing and frankly, its not LADY LIKE!!!!

Anne/stone mountain Ga   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

OK, Let's humor her and count them, she still want have enough.

Ric   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

everyone please sign the petition.. its affirms that we wont vote for Obama.. its at the petition site.

After the Fact   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Hillary should have stood up for Florida and Michican when the DNC first announced that they would be punished if they broke the rules. She did not stand up for them until she started to lose.

tda   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

some of these are really funny! i agree with about 95% of them! the one that hits closest to home though is "Be careful Barack and watch your back!" this lady is becoming more dangerous everyday. have you vetted your secret service agents?

Hill- Here to stay   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Hillary is here to stay because many lifelong democrats do not like election fixing that has influenced this primary.

We will NOT vote for Obama- for no reason but to protest the corruption of this primary: Advantages for one, obstacles for the other. Media bias. Flawed caucus format. Obama supporters using bully tactics at caucus. Obama with his gloating, cocky, arrogant mocking of Hillary with his Annie Oakley antics (while claiming he does not go negative). Obama with his ridiculing of Hillary by dismissively brushing her off his shoulder ( again, not negative? is this the uniter?). And, of course the Fl and Mi fiasco. It is never good or right to disenfranchise your voter base.

So We WILL teach the DNC a lesson with our vote in Nov.

It is that simple.

Jp   May 8th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Obama needs to address this. It seems like some believe that it's his fault that Florida and Michigan were not counted. Like Obama rallied against it or it was somehow even his decision to make. No matter how much you mention State officials or the DNC...somehow it's Obama's fault. Well, he just needs to say "Let's do it any way that pleases Senator Clinton". That is the only true way to end it for HRC supporters if we are going to have some unity. Go ahead, give it to her. Show Florida you're not afraid...I would.

Betsy   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

... by the way, it even gripes me more that "they" think "they" have the right to reach a "compromise" on how these votes will be doled out IF they are counted. Who do THEY think THEY are to take those individual votes and apply them where THEY chose, that is not counting the American votes as cast. If it can happen in a primary, why can't it happen on other issues. So, this makes one wonder about the Democratic party as a whole, are we so untrustworthy, or even more scarey, do we think we have the right to overturn those who make us what we are? (the individual American people that is?) and where will playing "god" end?

Janel, St. Paul, MN   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

I agree that the states of Florida and Michigan should be seated at the convention. However, I have misgivings about anything that Clinton proposes. SHE is the ONE who backed out of an agreement and left her name on the ballot in one state and campaigned in the other.

She is definitely getting desperate. . .and her desperation will likely split the Democratic party due to her ambitious goal to reclaim the White House.

Let's let the Rules Committee decide what is fair.

a middle aged white woman in SF   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

This is so ridiculous. Barack should laugh in her face. Hillary has lost it – she has – she needs a big reality check. What she really needs is someone to take her into a private room and tell her IT'S OVER. Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in MI. How in the world would anyone, let alone a US Senator, think that counting those votes would be FAIR. Everyone knew the rules before those elections were held. Hillary at one time agreed to abide by them. But NOW that she is losing, she is making a pathetic attempt to rewrite the rules. Very sad.

Sallie Mae, ExXXXXXX-Hillary Supporter   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

HILLARY, JUST STOP IT ALREADY!!! Geez Louise!

George   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Hilary's letter expresses and exposes how disingenuous she is. Is it not true that from the beginning all the contestants agreed not contest in Florida and Michigan? Obama will be a fool to agree to accept the outcome of those states. Howard Dean emphasized that the rules cannot be changed midstream. Et tu Howard Dean? Howard Dean, are you reneging? What a shame!

Terry Frakes   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

You Obama supporters crack me up, do you really honestly think the people in fla and mich deserve this??? Evidentally you do, or you wouldnt be supporting Obama. the hypocritical liar racist cant even stop being a coward long enough to let them re-vote, they didnt break the rules the republican party did. wise up or grow up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Irene Brown   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

It is completey un fare not to count delegates from Florida & Michigan. Florida could not hold an elction on time due to the Republicans. There are 50 states in this country. We all pay taxes, we all should be counted. On the Novemeber election we need a democratic Nomineee to beat Mc'cain. We will not go to vote on Novemeber if the delegates from Florida & Michigan are not counted now.

Bishal, Irene, Christine, Dawn, Kyle, Lynn, Dale, Sam, Corey, Mommy Norma, Rene, Anthony, Zackarre & Adam from Florida

Lou   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Crazy people... is no only getting the nomination but is winning in November... are we going to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan in the General election as well. Is Obama going to try to win in November in only 48 states? STOP THE INSANITY. Obama needs Florida and Michigan and can not afford to continue this if he wants to be President.

bukky   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

He should write a letter back saying yes... i agree they should count and be split 50/50...

Yes we can!   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Florida and Michigan will be seated after Obama is awarded the nomination. However, I would advise obama to seat them now based on the results at the end, he would still have more states, more delegates, more popular vote, so then what?

atypical white person   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Alice in FL and like-minded thinkers:
Obama didn't disenfranchise anyone. YOu need to hold your Republican represenative accountable for breaking the DNC rules–not ask Obama to fix the mess he didn't make.

And why did Hillary agree with FL and MI not being seated only to change her mind?

How does all of this fall into Obama's lap?
Don't vote for Obama. It doesn't matter; but don't hold him accountable for someone else's mistakes. Geez.

Mary   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

On FL & MI…..yes the delegates will be included but RULES are RULES. Both sides agreed to the rules BEFOREHAND. Right? So the only fair way is to split the delegates 50-50.

And whatever Hillary says about disenfranchising the voters as the real reason she is picking on this is a joke. We all know this only has to do with her trying to win. Do I have any proof? YES! Hillary has said on more than one occasion that its ok to ask the PLEDGED Delegates to switch to her side. So there goes this disenfranchising the voters theory. Its just more SNIPER FIRE headed your way by Hillary.

Nita   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

She's good, i'll give her that but this is ridiculous and obviously she's out of sorts because she has lost. I would like to see her leave gracefully and support Obama (without any knifes in his back either) Somehow I find it a little frightning to trust her.

Pamela   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Hillary, stop this. You simply have to stop doing this to yourself , the party, and the nation. If you truly care for the people you represent, bring them some closer. Sad thing is, I believe you lost control of yourself.

JF in CO   May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Flip flop, Hill... Flip flop.

MI and FL, don't be fooled. Hillary cares about Hillary - NOT about you.

John   May 8th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Did she forget that Obama's name wasn't on the ballot in Michigan? She wants fair voter representation, but is her arguement really fair?

Oregon has Hope and wants change   May 8th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Mike apperently from OR?

I didn't say for her to drop out.....

I just believe she has lost her freakin mind if she thinks she should get all MI votes when she was the only one on the ballot, not even Edwards was on there, the Dem leaders of the state even called it a beauty contest, what kind of primary is that????????

And we will kick her butt in Oregon

Mark my words MIKE !!!!! :) :) :)

Kay-Arizona   May 8th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Are these people that say it is unfair to people that voted in the other 48 states because they voted thinking Florida and Michigan would be shut out of the process?

Wow, thats interesting reasoning.

Yes we can!   May 8th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Dear Hillary,

You agreed to the rules just like Obama did...why is he being called out as if he broke some rules....Michigan and Florida voters need to put the blame on where it belongs THERE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS....They thought you were going to wrap up the nominee right after winning Iowa and New Hampshire, but little did they know Iowa had other plans and so did majority of the states, majority of the delegates, majority of the popular vote and majority of the polls....Now it's obama fault that you are loosing. My request to you is to work with Obama in unifying the party and helping him win the general election. And maybe, just maybe you'll be ready to run in 2016.

Signed,
Yes We Can

Steve in DC   May 8th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Hey Hillary...why dont your write a letter to the Florida and Michigan Democratic leaders and let them know how disappointed you are in them for moving their primaries? Then make that public.

Davin   May 8th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Mrs Cliniton You should be ashame of your dirty tricks.Trick

G. Giles   May 8th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

To allow the counting of Michigan and Florida after the fact is not fair to the campaign process. Those that decided Michigan and Florida needed to hold their primaries early despite the consequences, have unfortunately, disenfranchised those delegate votes, but they knew that when they made the decision to hold the primaries early. What was the rush, considering the potential consequences? Now that Hillary Clinton is behind and cannot catch up, she wants them to be counted. As Obama did not campaign in those states due to upcoming primaries in other states, how is that fair to him, when he did not go to those states to campaign, knowing that those delegate votes would not count. If there is not going to be a new primary allowed, in order to make it fair as it would have been if they had not rushed the process....for no good reason...but to be one of the first. Lesson learned. gg

bukky   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Hillary just rejected an offer to seat the MI delegates because they gave her 10 delegates instead of 18... She is still trying to hoodwink us

Betsy   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

I dont' think this has anything to do with "firing last shots" or anything of the nature. I read some of the comments and I think "are these American citizens standing up for each other?" Or, are they REALLY so caught up in their own agenda's that they feel it is appropriate for ANY American citizen to be denied their vote? I don't like it at all myself – it is UN-AMERICAN to not count any/every vote of a citizen, and it is not the individual CITIZENS fault that the "party" made choices – the "party" should be fined/penalized, not the citizens. Regardless of WHICH candidate would end up with those votes. This has nothing to do with Hillary or Obama netting anything – it has EVERYTHING to do with every American having the right to have their vote counted!? It is sad to see the bitterness that has evolved during this democratic season – for myself and many others, we're about ready to vote another party this year because of all of this. It isn't just "the party" that will be damaged, read these comments – it is AMERICA(n's) that will pay the price in increase discrimination, racist divisions, etc which we have tried over many years now, to put aside. Sad to see, it remained – under the surface.

Anne Marie nyc   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

The only one that broke the rules are the state's Republican leaders that set the contest dates. Neither candidate broke the rules (although Obama did break the TV-ad rule!) and the voters certainly didnt break the rules – we must count these votes to ensure their support in the fall as well as to ensure Hillary's supporters' feel they have been heard -Ootherwise, these voters will not support Obama should he be the nominee. My feeling is without FL/MI and many of the other swing states (OH) Obama will lose the election unless Hillary is on the ticket or better yet leads it.

Same as the debates – Obama is avoiding a revote as he knows he will lose. If he can't win these, McCain will be our president – and deserve it for how much the democratic party messed this up!

Independent   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

The letter should read:

"Dear Senator Obama,

Wah, wah, wah....wah wah wah wah wah.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton"

Ok Hillary, we will give you all the delegates! You are still losing! Start fighting for your beliefs and not yourself!

The ATL   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

This just in-Hill turned down the latest proposal for Michigan today

Hillary Campaign Says No To New Michigan Delegate Proposal
By Greg Sargent – May 8, 2008, 2:20PM
Camp Hillary is rejecting the new plan floated today by Michigan Dems that would seat the delegation by awarding 69 delegates to Hillary and 59 to Obama.

Sue F   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

First she race baites, her surrogates try blackmail and she's telling him to seat those that broke the rules in order for her to win! What's next a letter telling him he's too thin and cannot win???? When are the Superdelegates going to get some back bone and tell this woman it's over? After she ruins the Democratic party or her people try and destroy Obama, if that's the case who do you think will vote for her then?????

Raoul   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Let's not change the rules at the end of the game. Clearly the Clintons are in it for themselves. As a proud Democrat It's really difficult to watch.

Greg   May 8th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

She is just soooooo concerned about poor little Florida and Michigan.

Wonder why she didn't raise a stink unitl she found out she was going to need them so badly.

Funny, the only people that seem to give a hoot about the Florida and Michigan "votes" are Clinton and her supporters.

Funny how that works.

Beverly, NYC   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Please superdelegates end this madness. Even if all Fl & Mighigan delegates are counted, or divided in half she cannot win the nomination. I repeat she will not have the 2025 the DNC says is needed for the nomination, nor will she get to the Clinton imaginary number of 2012, 2009 or whatever it is today. END THIS. Or hand the nomination to McCain.

Barbara GA   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

John McCain is going to have a field day with this one. She is HURTING our PARTY!

cameleon116   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Congressman Brad Miller (D-NC) endorses Barack Obama;

Miami Beach Superdelegate Gelber Backs Obama

For Obama Not Because I'm Black   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

So we are suppose to honor those that voted and disenfranchise those that stayed home because they knew their vote wouldn't count. Or, disenfranchise those who wanted to vote for Obama but couldn't because his name wasn't on the ballot? Should we take advantage of the voters that chose Clinton without the benefit of effective campaigning on behalf of all the parties that was runnning for president at that time? Doesn't make sense.

Francis Kansas City   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

I am a Hilary supporter and I and am a Democrat first. I will like our party leaders to call the two candidates in and resolve their issues. I think Obama has demonstrated enough that I can win this election and I think it is time for him and the Democratic party to make accommodation for Hilary to be the VP. It has been a long process and I think serious consideration should be given to her as the VP

Jon   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

First, counting those votes and seating those delegates STILL wouldn't help her.

Secondly, do we really want to elect someone who is simply OK with breaking the rules. Rules are rules Hillary. Everyone knew that going into the primary season. Apparently FL and MI didn't think the rules applied to them. But they do. No delegates at the convention for FL and MI because the broke the rules...it's that simple. Why is this so hard for everyone to understand?

If it were the other way around – if Obama were behind, and pleading to seat those delegates – you can bet the farm that she'd be screaming "Sorry, rules are rules." Just another way in which Hillary is only looking out for herself, not the country!

Rayshaun, New York   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Does Hilliary see a stupid sign on Barack obama's head? Why on earth would barack consider at this late stage of the game going along with completly changing the rules of the DNC and doing so in a way that gives her an edge? The best compromise he should agree to is seating the delegates at the convention 50-50, and thats a courtesy to the voters not a requirement by the DNC

Davin   May 8th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

You should be ashme of your dirty tricks. Trick.

Seth   May 8th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Obaam supporters – STOP THE CLINTON BASHING. She is going to be out soon, and we NEED her supporters to win. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

NoMcSame   May 8th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

No Hillary, now go home where ever that is.

Jaime   May 8th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

The US does not need the same two families in power for 20 years.

Hillary just endorse Obama now. He'd do it for you if you had the nomination.

K   May 8th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Let's see……Obama people say don't count Michigan and Florida b/c they broke the rules. Yet, the rules are Hillary can continue her campaign until 2,025 delegates are won by Obama; however, Obama maniacs are saying she needs to quit. You can't form the rules to fit your agenda so get over it.

masgap   May 8th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Florida and Michigan should be heard. there is financing in place.

It is true one cannot accept Mi as Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

Florida is another case. People aren't stupid. they have been watching

for months the campaign. Wouldn't be nice and clear to let the people

have their say? All 50 states not just 48. There is enough time. Obama show your true colors and allow this or be just another politician . It was overkill by the DNC and republicans.

Mary   May 8th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

I say Obama should take the high road...seat FLA and Michigan and she still doesn't win...then he can point and say I did all I could for all the voters. It will help him in the general election and she cannot catch up even if she manages to sway/arm twist her way into more super delegates. I think that any remaining supers would see his grand gesture as a plus and would move towards him. Take the issue away from her and she will be left with nothing but Bill.

J.R.   May 8th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Who in the Democrat party is man (or woman) enough to stand up and say enough is enough? The FL and MI delegates should not be counted, except maybe with a symbolic 50-50 split to show "unity". As long as nobody will make a final decision, the right-wingers are having a field day with this.

david   May 8th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

this smacks of a FAKE or planted letter. After a hasty check of various sites I am APPALLED to realize that this letter is NOT the figment of some crazy blogger trying to reek havoc. To my utter dismay it is the ramblings of woman who in the final hours of a valiant fight has resorted to tactics best used to achieve victory in a BITTER divorce. I suggest that this soon to be scorned divorcee needs to double up on her meds and seek the guidance of an equally scorned pastor from the Chicago area. It seems they will have lots to talk about.

Stealy Dan   May 8th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

How can she possibly claim votes and delegates from states in which there was no contest? Both campaigns agreed in advance to support the DNC ruling that because the states violated the rules, the penalty would be that no campaigning would be done in those states, and no delegates would be seated at the convention.

Rosalind   May 8th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

HIllary should be quiet now. In the beginning she agreed to the decision to not seat the Fl and Michigan delegates. This all being when she was ahead in the counts/delegates and votes. Now that she is behind, she wants the votes to count so that she can win over Obama. She is not going to win.

Millions of people did not vote because they knew their votes would not count. Sen Obama's name was not on the ballot in Michigan. So what happens to the people who did not vote at all? Why should her votes count now? Give me a break. Hillary is such a phony!

Lourdes   May 8th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

I just can't help but wonder what she would be saying if she were ahead in the race and it was Obama trying to go back on the rules that had been agreed to by the candidates. If HE had left his name on the ballot in Michigan to run unopposed and claimed to have a moral claim to those votes.

I dont' have to wonder. She is only out for her own interest, despite what laws/rules/ethics/democracy/ethics she tramples over. Kinda like a certain sitting president I know of.

MJAMES   May 8th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

To Alice in Florida,

If you send me your email address I will show you several examples where Obama has consistantly stated he will go along with whatever the DNC decides. If it is a revote he says he will do it. Again he is not at fault here it is your state's elected officials that started the whole mess. Saying you won't vote for Obama becasue he refuses to just give invalidated votes to Hillary in states he did not actively campaign in is crazy. If you really buy in to Hillary's attempt to once again change the rules to her advantage while pandering to Democrats in each state that is very very sad.

AVEMBE The sun   May 8th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Oh man ...this IS A TRICK!!!!!the message IS if Obama doesn't agree with HRC then He will be RESPONSIBLE of the fact that people of Michigan and Florida will be soooo UPSET that they will get their revenge by not voting in november or even vote against OBAMA and the DNC...wow HRC!!! this is truly unfair...WHY DID YOU APPROVE the rules back then?matter of fact she really seems to have a problem of denial
(deny the economists ,deny the numbers, deny Iran,denythe case PAUL vs CLINTON, deny deny deny...)EVEN , i say EVEN if she's the nominee(bbbbbBBBBRAAHAHAHAHAH!!!sorry guyz) she will able to DENY of Mc CAIN if MC CAIN ever wins at that moment...

Vickie   May 8th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Gordon, even if Obama got 100% of the "black vote", it's still not that many African Americans in the US to add up to the votes he has accumulated. In case you haven't noticed, African Americans are a minority in this country.

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better.

Venus   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Has anyone noticed that Obama's lawyers are not playing these letters any mind!

Also – behind the scenes – some of the Clintons thugs are saying they won't give any more money to the DNC because Hillary is losing!!!

Well... since we have sent Obama more money- we got a load!

Can't see why MI and FL will allow Hillary to use them! She didn't care about them before which is why she signed the letter!

Ha,ha,ha,ha - maybe she can't see life after the primary?

Go Obama! Let's move on to Mc Cain!

FONZI, an independent.   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

This letter is the ultimate of ridicule. Did Clinton not sign with other contestants to honor DNC rules to penalise states that violate the primary rules and regulations?.She needs to honor her earlier committment and show leadership by example. If she renegades on that how does she expect to be trusted on another deal? This is shameful.

Carl   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

They broke the rules. If anything she should be yelling at the republican governor of Florida for moving up the primary and the representatives in Michigan. She has said a few times that she knows they won't count. The only thing would be to have a revote – however, they broke the rules and knowingly so. If the DNC reverses it's stance, it will cause chaos.

Word Bomb   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Never vote for a Republican or a Democrat; they will always be the darlings of the CFR, TC and the BB secret society.

Go Ron Paul!!

Go Ralph Nader!!

@americans   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

one word: desperation!

J.L.   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

I don't understand why the Michigan and Florida vote gets re-hashed. They made their decision before Primary season started. And they were told at that time that the DNC would not seat their delegates if they held their primaries early. They accepted that and went ahead with their primaries. All the Presidential candidates accepted this also. Am I missing something here? Action and consequence. If Michigan, Florida, or Clinton didn't want to deal with these consequences, they should have brought that up way back in the beginning. Not after they find that they could have made a difference. If the people in Michigan and Florida want to get mad at anyone of their "disenfranchisement," they should take it out on the genius Democratic leadership in those states.

Dan   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Hillary, all states must count.

Popular vote leaves out the 14 caucus states.
Hillary, well that's different. They held caucuses so they should not count.

georgia   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Just another piece of baggage she's attempting to get the american public to lay @ Obama's feet. He didn't make the rules but agreed to abide by them as we all should. Boiler-makers anyone ??

Greg   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Where were the so-called super delegates in Bush vs. Gore, or Bush vs. Kerry?!? If these same super delegates would get off the fence and throw their support to one side or the other now, we wouldn't be fighting over Florida and Michigan... but when you are making the rules as you go, or redefining the rules to your advantage everytime it appears you are beat, then anything goes. The DNC did not sanction the votes for Florida and Michigan because the states refused to play by the rules, so the states should pay the consequence... no one is debating the popular vote results for the state, so the argument cannot be made that individual voter didn't have his/her vote counted, but how can Dems rail against Bush's first 4 years being a stolen presidency, while weeping and gnashing their teeth at the injustice of not having the delegates seated at the national convention? The only reason Billary is still in it to win it, is because the 'super delegates' remaining uncounted won't choose sides for fear of coming out on the losing end, thus losing favor with the ultimate candidate, and or president. Clinton is only making Obama spend money now that should be used in the general or targeting McCain't, because ultimately she knows, it's a long 8 years for an Obama presidency, but if she jeopardizes his chances, then she can tell everyone in 2012, how she could have won it in 2008 against McCain't! I still cannot believe that out of 300 million Americans, Obama, Billary, and McCain't are the best we could do... Lord helps us all. But the again, after we elected Bush 2.0, anything was possible.

Karen   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

This is ridiculous. Let's not split them 50/50 because that doesn't favor me!

How about taking the total registered democrats, giving her those that voted for her and the rest to Obama. How about that!

Plus, I don't like the voting results from the Ohio primary. Let's do that again. There is no blizzard up north today. I'll bet the results would be different.

He should send her a letter back with the form that she signed agreeing that the results wouldn't count; and don't forget to send it to the press.

Yea Jack, where is that form? Can't you get a copy!

Cincinnati, OH

Joe From Connecticut   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Hillary is acting as if the Clintons own the democratic party. Rules were laid down since the beginning, why should we change them now to accommodate one candidate? Let all abide by the rules and move on. .....Maybe we should change all the rules and hand her the presidency right now. No need to even hold an election in November. Let's just tell Barack and Mc Cain to make place for Hillary to become president right now....How does that sounds???

Farrell, Houston, Tx   May 8th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

FIRST LADY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, PLEASE REMAIN RESPECTFUL. WE WOULD ALL PREFER SAYING THAT ABOUT YOU AND BILL BECAUSE YOU ARE ONE OF US AND YOUR SERVICES ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED, SO LET'S TURN THE PAGE.

For Hillary 08   May 8th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

By the way if you read the agreement fully which Obamadables people haven't it says the votes can be tallied the electoral votes will not count, but the populare votes would. I guess we see why he's crying. Of course if it were the other way around he would be whining like a baby that they have to count.

No Obamidable racist liar for me.

Alice   May 8th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I wonder if Hilary would be so eager to count the votes in Michigan and Florida if the majority were Obama supporters?

Brian   May 8th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

More spin from the Clinton campers. Just like the delegates from MI. How does it feel now MI? Hillary sold you guys out today by not accepting the deal that MI proposed to the DNC LOL Are you guys STILL going to maintain that she is speaking for you? That SHE wants your vote to count LOL or are yu finally going to accept that YOU ONLY count if it is better for HER? Actions, as always, speak louder than words.

Dan , TX   May 8th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Already worked out. He'll let Clinton have a 10 delegate net from MI and a 19 delegate net from FL. That's 29 delegate advantage for Clinton plus Clinton nets a 15 superdelegate advantage. That cuts Obama's lead by 44 delegates total and would cut his overall delegate lead to around 90.

Ratgurl   May 8th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Jeff in CA – You must be one majorly powerful surfer dude to make threats like that. How do you propose to back it up?

Sure   May 8th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I'd say the DNC has a lot to look at on how they run their primaries/caucuses!

Spirit of America   May 8th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Either allot the delegates as voted on in January or have a re-election.
Anything less elevates bureaucracy over democracy.

old europe   May 8th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

hillary, you dauther, what can she learn from you?

cdcwdc   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

I keep having this mental image of Hilary Clinton sitting there sucking her thumb and pulling on her ear while yelling “I don’t care what the popular vote numbers show or the pledged delegate count is, the super delegates owe. I wana be PRESIDENT, I deserve to be PRESIDENT.”

Mark from Seattle   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Here is a college student's executive summary of the letter:

Dear Obama/The Media,

Urgent! I am getting desperate! Can we please change the rules in this Primary Game, because I am losing. I don't like losing and I think I could win if we changed the rules to help me out. This race would be a lot better if we could change the rules so I could get more votes. Oh yeah, it would also probably be more democratic if we let people vote who were punished, even though they intentionally broke the rules. My friends can even pay for the whole thing! Isn't that what really controls US democracy, money in the hands of a few? Heck, I will even pay for my own campaign since no one else will give me money.

On to the next "bin win state",

Hillary Clinton
...you know, the ex-presidents wife, part of the two family ruling dynasty

CLB in LA   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

How does Senator Clinton propose not to disenfranchise the millions of Democrats who DID not vote in FL and MI because they were told that the Party would not count the votes and that the candidates agreed?

How does Senator Clinton propose to count the 30% of voters in MI who voted UNDECIDED in order to show support for Obama or Edwards because neither of their names were on the ballot there?

How does Senator Clinton respond to voters in FL who were familiar with her because of her husband and her time as first lady but not familiar with the younger Senator - albeit not necessarily less capable to lead - because he was not permitted to campaign there - and who voted for her but would now - that they have come to know Senator Obama better - change that vote?

I support re-votes in both FL and MI. If votes as is are counted in any way on any level, I will change my registration to Independent and never again trust the Democratic party.

OBAMA CANNOT WIN IN NOVEMBER!!!   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

HE DOESN
T GIVE A RATS BUTT ABOUT OUR VOTES!

THIS MAN IS UNPATRIOTIC!

IF HE GETS THE NOMINATION McCAIN WILL BE WHAT WE GET!!!!

AS MUCH AS I RESPECT HILLARY I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!!

HE IS WRONG FOR THIS COUNTRY!!!

THE REPUBLICANS ARE BEHIND THIS WHOLE POPULARITY THING BECAUSE THEY WANT IT TO BE HIM!!!!

BECAUSE THEY KNOW HE WILL BE EASY TO BEAT!!!!!!

I AM STILL PULLING FOR HILLARY!!!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!

Larry   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Can they please play over and over again her initial statement that Michigan would not count...PLEASE!!

consistent constituent   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Did Sen. Clinton actually state this?

'I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted. '

...um, you mean, you 'consistently' said this AFTER Super Tuesday and you realized that you maybe needed these votes, after all. I think that you DID agree, from the start, that the delegations from these two states should not be seated.

Where is the consistency??

Laura   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

I wonder what Obama will say to MI and FL when he wants thier votes in the general election. Oh sorry guys, a few months ago it was just politics....the same old politics I promise to end. Give me a break Obama and Obamians. Neither Clinton nor Obama personally made the decision for them not to count. It was the Democratic Party....Looks like I will be voting Republican this November and that is NO JOKE!!

MaTerry   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

She will stop at nothing.

linda-Texas   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

The DNC needs the voters of Florida and Michigan in November. Their votes will be counted now or they could be lost in November. They will be counted. It is only a matter of when and how.

The DNC should never have penalized the voters of Florida and Michigan for something they had no control over. The persons responsible for breaking the party rules should be held accountable for their decision, not the voters.

Unified Democratic Party 2008   May 8th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Hillary Clinton supporters:

Please stop with the threats and insults. I realize many Obama supporters are gloating and taunting you, which is disappointing and wrong. I wish this wasn’t going on. However, it's important that you rise above the petty taunts and stop threatening to vote against the well-being of our nation just because your preferred candidate will not be in the race. Voting for a Democrat, regardless of who he/she is, is absolutely critical this fall. We're all depending on Clinton supporters everywhere to see the big picture and help the Democratic Party take back the White House, and help our nation begin recovering from Bush's mistakes and blunders at home and abroad. We need you, there's no denying it. Please, please, please unite behind Obama and help the cause. We're in this together.

LifeLongDemocrat   May 8th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Obama made a strategic decision and removed himself from the Michigan ballot because he wanted to concentrate on Iowa. The Obama supporters do not seem to know that or refuse to acknowledge that. The playing field was almost level in Florida. Hillary did not campaign there and neither did Obama, BUT he did run ads there.

Stop drinking the kool-aid. It's too late in the game for that.

georgia   May 8th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

This is not Obama's issue . 48 states followed clearly stated & agreed upon rules ;2 did not w/ understanding of the alternative. If Hillary were ahead it would not be an issue @ all,similar to the 2000 vote. We move forward.

Journalism at its best   May 8th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Was this before or after she said NO! to the Michigan compromise?

Stacey   May 8th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

This should be titled "Hillary makes a pandering stance to create ill will and muddy the political waters"

This is so totally bogus. Hillary only supported this when it benefitted her to do so. This lady needs to stop. Now.

TSD from Houston, TX   May 8th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

HRC is stupid for this. She agreed to the rules when they were put forth and now she's fighting against them. HRC agreed to the punishment, now she's against it. Flip flopping didn't work for John Kerry, it's not going to work for HRC.

RJ-Ga   May 8th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Hillary,
Please, throw cold water on your face ! You are dream talking again ! Are you not the same person who agreed Mich. and Fla. votes were not going to be counted, when these states decided to change their election dates ? The only solution is to seat them 50/50, but of course you will not agree, thats why what you are saying and writing makes No Sense !

Harrison   May 8th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
HRC is really beginning to hurt herself and her own electability. She looks desperate and at a loss for reality. She is getting kind of scary.

Someone get her some help. We know SHE has access to healthcare.

Lee WV   May 8th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

She is begging Obama now.She will only settle for an agreement that puts her ahead.She is not worried about those poor disenfranchised voters.

CW in DC   May 8th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

If she cares so much about Michigan being seated, why did she reject their latest proposal to seat the delegates?

Southerner For Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

OK, she is beginning to scare me and Obama should be careful when he is in the same room with her.

Hillary, please honey, get some professional help. You sound like and remind me of a crazy person. I am serious about this You are a scary person

Inquiring mind   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

HI, I still figuring this thing out and I'd like HRC supporters who say they won't vote for Obama in the general election if he is the nominee to tell me why that is? I would like to know their reason because I'm trying to figure Obama out, Please either respond here or e-mail me at wellstoniandemocrat@live.com. Thank you for your input.

Ian   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Dear Senator Obama,

We must count 2.5 million votes in primaries in Florida and Michigan!
And I have a great plan how to count these votes! Let's count all of my votes and none of yours! The people of these great states, like the people who have voted and are to vote in other states (except blacks of course, and those pesky whites with post high-school education), must have a voice in selecting our party's nominee – me!

Sincerely,
Hillary Rodham Clinton

P.S. Has anyone seen my royal crown? Or at least my bottle of Crown Royal?

Rob   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Sure...we count them.

But you drop the Popular Vote Crap..cause that Argument disqualifies 4 states.

You cant have it both ways.

Nate in Mpls   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

She agreed up front that FL and MI wouldn't count. Period. Flip. Flop.

Alex   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

This does seem to be Hillary firing off her last, desperate shots. However, regardless of whether Obama wins the Democratic nominee or not these are big states regarding electoral votes and if there is any animosity towards Obama this could mean that they may not vote for him in the actual Presidential Election. Frankly, I don't care if Obama loses or not, I would much prefer any Democrate to be President than a Republican.

Go Obama!!

Michael G   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

***** I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted. ****
There she goes again misstating. She went on record stating that the vote would not count, and there was no problem then. Now that she has virtually no chance of winning, the vote should count and she concerned about the voters.

Jon   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

BORING

Joe From Connecticut   May 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Hillary is acting as if the Clintons own the democratic party. Rules were laid down since the beginning, why should we change them now to accommodate one candidate? Let all abide by the rules and move on.

LifeLongDemocrat   May 8th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

I just saw the tape of Obama meeting with the superdelegate blue dog Democrats and something struck me right away. They are all white men! Obama needs to figure out how he is going to get the 70% of white women to vote for him who are now supporting Hillary. That is a make or break number and he doesn't seem to be interested in us! Of course, as his supporters say on these blogs: "we are stupid, uneducated and will believe anything we hear once." NOT!!!

Write in Hillary if she is not the nominee...

NOBAMA in North Carolina   May 8th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Hilary this really is very desperate. Obama is already starting his campaign against McCain in saying he is running a smear campaign. Obama can't stand on the issues so he cries bully, not gonna work with Republicans Obama we see what you are REALLY about. Hilary stop it let the campaign move on so McCain can make Obama look like the all talk no action politician he is.

Emma from San Jose, CA   May 8th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

I am certain of her remarkable intelligence and knowledge, but her reasoning needs some work.

Nick - Arlington, VA   May 8th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

he agreed to the MI plan of giving her 10 more delegates...she rejected it....what does she want? its over.

Chuck   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Why did you have to go public with this letter Hillary? Are you trying to push him into doing what you want by letting the public see this letter. Why did you even allow the election to go on if you knew that they were breaking the rules. You have lost! It's over for you unless he decides to put you on the ticket as vice which I personally would not do if I were him after all of your nasty attacks. You have disappointed so many people that noone would vote for you anyway! Thank you and have a great day!

Kevin   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Imagine that, Hillary wants votes to count in states, who disregarded party rules, where she was either the only one to campaign, or the only one who didn't take her name off the ballot. She's not talking revote in that letter, she's talking let the original votes stand.

Desperation is a stinky perfume.

Fran Martin   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

More Bush like hubris on display by Clinton and her supporters. Turn out the light, Hill, the party's over!

Adam from NY   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

How about "I agree with you Hillary. Why don't we splut the delegates in proportion to the current pledged delegate count?"

mitchell from arkansaw   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

stick that letter in ur ear,hillary!and learn to follow the rules!

Linda   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Also, should this letter be to the DNC and not Obama? Send it to Howard Dean. They are the ones with the power to seat the delegates.

E. loz Miami   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

She's a fighter & I applaud her for that. ActuaIy, I look up to that. That's what inspire me, not feel good speeches. If I wanted a feel good speech, I would read poetry or listen to music. I hope she runs as an independent & WINS. That would shut everyone up. Obama & Mccain can go fight for those red states while she gets the big states that matter.

Liberty   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

LIAR!

She signed a statement last year and told the people of Iowa and New Hampshire that she accepted the DNC policy and that Michigan and Florida would not count.

She has also said that elected delegates from the primaries don't have to support the candidate who they are pledged to- basically rendering all the primaries and caucuses to be meaningless.

ray linhart   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

yes they will be after the june race is over then split the delgates 50-50 an do not let clinton pay back her loans to the campaine that looks like a carpet bagger so be a women an pay your own way not by a loan

Ron   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

If the people don'y vote her in she's hoping the party bosses will handed it to her. ThAT'S democracy in action for you. Go Girl!!!

Sophia   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Time for the superdelegates to come with the hook and snatch her off of the stage.

Mandy   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Hilary: Please ask yourself, if you were Obama, you would be your answer?? Face the reality and get out of the race gracefully - help yourself and your party please.

Video Guy   May 8th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Give her a break

She needs to keep the campaign going long enough to pay off the bills, and to pay herself back. There is no way she iis not going to get "her" Money back. Once she has done this, she will call it off.

oliver   May 8th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Hey Supers... Don't you see that this woman has lost ?

By the way, that was so crazy of her to call all the econmist and energy experts elitist when no one was really falling for her political ploy with gas holiday nonsense. She won;t even listen to experts ... how stubborn!

If that was so important, why did she stop talking about it as soon as the polls closed on Tuesday? Can you say .. "politics"

carl from Houston   May 8th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

that woman have lost her mind, Obama is in total control

Keith R.   May 8th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Underhanded PR attempt to make Obama look bad. It actually has nothing to do about the votes and everything to do about making Obama look bad, esp to MI and FL voters who are already pissed off.

Sally   May 8th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

I suggest Hillary to re-start this game again and she can regiester as an Indenpend, then she can get the nominee!

mndharmas   May 8th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

there is something fishy going on. Number crunchers will have to figure out why Hillary is so crazy about delegates from Fl ans MI. I suspect she has a deal with some supers who want her to be at the helm so they can pull her strings and continue to be super powerful . They just need some justification to crown her.

She is the best chameleon around ,

rd   May 8th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

The state themselves violated the rules. When you violate a rule comes a penalty, they knew it and did it any way. So if any blame needs to be pionted at anyone blame the state party.

Seattle for Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

This is the first correspondance that she has ever made public. She is like please help me to help MI and Fl and if he says no she can come back with I told you he is not for you!! Dirty, old school politics @ its best.

The rules where broke, a lot of MI and Fl did not even vote because they knew thier leaders messed up. So if I ever go to jail I will say, "yes I know I broke the rules and yes I knew what the consiquenses would be when I did, but I deserve another chance" The judge would laugh me out of court. This is the same difference.

Michelle, FL   May 8th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

This is a joke. Hillary was only for counting votes when she realized she won and that she would need to count them to beat Obama. Obama has done nothing to prevent the votes from being counted. The DNC is responsible.

I'm from Flordia and I didnt vote because I KNEW THEY WOULDNT COUNT.

United States That Matter   May 8th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Has anyone else notice that Clinton's superdelegate lead has dwindled down to only 8?!

Wooohoooooooooooooooo!!!!

Check the stats yourself!

It's time to pull this train out the station people!!!!

Linda   May 8th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Obama is NOT even ready to handle economic issues much less today's breaking news in Beirut. If he is elected we are all in for a rough ride. Hillary stands tall...Obama is propped up by his handlers. And we have no idea who they are.

Nancy Li   May 8th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

I'm sure he can – and should – work it out without her. She thinks she's the nominee ans is more presidential, etc. Hillary, work on a graceful exit, please!

Jane   May 8th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Hillary aka Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, has only one leg to stand on.

PJ   May 8th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Florida and Michigan can not be ignored.
The incredible irrational aggressiveness of the Obama supporters is giving us a glimpse of what an Obama administration would be.

Marilyn   May 8th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

I certainly hope Mr. Obama does not fall for this.

Cheryl L. Swaim   May 8th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Don't you Obama supporters like the people in Florida?

Marc in DeKalb, IL   May 8th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Gimmicks! Oh boy! That's what Clintons like best!

Dexter   May 8th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

I'm sick of seeing people say, "If not Hillary – I will vote for McCAIN!!!!"

What's wrong with you people?

Gas prices not high enough for you?

Not enough kids getting blown to pieces in Iraq for you?

Not enough conservative judges on the supreme court for you?

You know, the next president will appoint at least two judges. If McCain is the president, you can say goodbye to Roe v. Wade.

Is that what you want?

Stop being stupid, all of you.

sheryl   May 8th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Step off please Hillary......Give it up ALREADY!!!! They can't follow rules just like you and Bill!!!!!!!

JB   May 8th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is hanging on by her finger nails. There comes a time when one must accept reality, regardless how much fight is in us.
This is not a good luck for her.

Her strategy is more along the lines to wait for an Obama bombshell in hopes to turn his supporters over to her... or McCain.

Obama is the man for this day and time. The old politics are not longer benefiting the younger generation.

Independent   May 8th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Of course she is sucking up to him. How conveniently she forgets that she signed off on the DNC rules NOT to countr Fla. and Mi. Now that shee needs them, she is pandering the DNS. Is there anyone she will not pander to. She is such a low life, and I am female and white!

Rob   May 8th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Hillary 08!!!

Inevitable   May 8th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Sorry but it's over HIlary .. for the love of the democratic party ..... concede ....

and rally around Obama ............... it's clearly evident she is not in the race for the good for the party but for personal reasons ............

Hilary supporters ......................... THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted by Concern Democrats "Those democrats that feel the need to support McCain are only hurting themselves. If Obama lose, he'll go back to the senate and he'll be alright. However, will you be OK with a failing economy, a continue war in Iraq, health care unresolved, conservative justices, etc…"

LETS ALL UNITE & STOP THIS BITTERNESS ....!!!!

PSmith   May 8th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

Way to go Hillary!!!!!

Fight all you can and we support you..

You know why?

Because we will never, ever, ever vote for a small time thug like Obama!

You are all fools!

Lori   May 8th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

I'm sure Obama will agree to seating MI & FL as long as it is fair to him. Let's not blame Obama for MI & FL breaking the rules. These two states should be held accountable for going against the Democratic National Committee rules. The vote was not fair especially in MI since Obama's name wasn't on the ticket. An even split would be the fair way to seat them.

LT for Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

So the gas tax gimmic did not work now she is just shamelessly going after him.

She is making it harder for me to go to the polls if she manages to steal, yes that's right, steal the nomination.

Her actions over the last couple of days should be a sign to the remaining super delegates how unstable she is becoming. Do you really want someone who is unstable to run this country? At least Obama keeps his cool, she is just all over the place.

Karen from Charlottesville   May 8th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

This is getting really sad. CNN, if Hillary doesn't realize what a fool she is making of herself, then maybe you could just start ignoring her so the rest of us don't have to witness the pathetic depths to which she is sinking. She is destroying her chances to be a respected party elder with her unseemly behavior.

Missouri   May 8th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Florida & Michigan should get to vote. They deserve to, just like other states.

Strongely for HIllary

She is experienced, for all races, and and fighter.

Hillary 08!

silence do good   May 8th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Obama has cheated the voters of FL and MI. There were other states that had situations regarding primaries. Why were these 2 states blocked from the revote? Are his followers so blind as to think it is OK to disenfranchise entire states?

Between his negative attacks (through his surrogates), racist and antisemitic friends, manipulation of primaries, encouraging his hate-speech followers: he is driving Dem voters away form him. If he loses in November HE will be to blame, not Hillary, not Republicans, not Rush, not "typical white" people, not Bigfoot (watch – some Ozombie will actually run with "bigfoot" angle).

Casey in KY   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Hasn't it been cleared that even if these states count there is no way she can win the rest of the states with 88% of the vote?! Hillary is looking like a soar loser. They realize the stipulations when they tried to go against the rules 2 out of 50. What's wrong with that? Not that the pple should suffer but the reps for those states knew what they were doing.
Clinton better be careful bc if they do revote they might not be in her favor because she's acting really desperate right now. Uniting the party... yeah right HIllary we see that....

jane in CA   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

she's up with something.

Ryan   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

lol. Hillary is nuts. Did you hear her plan for michigan? only count her votes but the undecided would not count for obama. SHE WAS THE ONLY PERSON ON THE BALLOT

Lindsay   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Would someone please just make this woman go away? Please? I'm honestly starting to doubt her sanity. Barack Obama has said SEVERAL times that he will honor whatever the DNC decides to do about Michigan and Florida.

Hey Hill, what are you going to do when there's nothing left to spin? You should have bowed out gracefully when you had the chance. You've tarnished your reputation forever.

Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

This is getting to be even more pathetic!!!

They have already announced that the DNC Rules committe and representatives from both campaigns would be meeting on May 31 to resolve the Florida and Michigan situation at that time. Hillary is trying to make herself look like she is leading this effort when it has been in the process all along.

B / NYC   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Senator Obama is way to full of himself and his razor thin lead that the media builds up to be the win of the century, to do anything for Senator Clinton...
Honestly if need be I pray that Senator Clinton runs as an Independent because most of her supporters will NEVER vote for Obama...

Steve   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

I love how Obama uses the "will of the people" arguement on why superdels should vote for him, but has no desire to include everyone. And he has somehow conned so many people into thinking that Hillary is the only "win at all costs" candidate.

The best part is, there's such an easy solution. Make all of the primaries on a single day, sometime in late March/early April. You not only have a surefire nominee by a known date, but you're FAIR to all candidates, not just the ones IA and NH feel they have a right to select.

Take me back to '68!   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Would someone please just make this woman go away? Please? I'm honestly starting to doubt her sanity. Barack Obama has said SEVERAL times that he will honor whatever the DNC decides to do about Michigan and Florida.

Hey Hill, what are you going to do when there's nothing left to spin? You should have bowed out gracefully when you had the chance. You've tarnished your reputation forever.

Realistic   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

So long as the apple cart will not be upset, it seems like Michigan and Florida should have their delegates seated at least in part and according to some fair formula that doesn't unfairly hurt those states that did follow the rules, such as by cutting the number of delegates in half like the Republicans do.

BTW, the only reason why Hillary is still running is to pay off her campaign debts to herself, which is why ever other post at hillaryis44.com (a Hillary front site) is a solicitation for a donation. But I guess if enough old women are dumb enough to send her some bucks it doesn't hurt the rest of us.

Elle   May 8th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

To not honor that request would place Obama in a light of undemocratic behavior and people would never support a democrat who is not willing to hear peoples voices .It is the foundation of democracy and a constitutional right as an american citizen.
Well expressed by Hillary Clinton who shows respect and concern to unite all democratic americans .
Thanks to her for this !

LB   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

This is sad.

Gabe in TX   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

He knows counting FL and MI will close the gap between himself and Clinton. I can see his reasons for not wanting those 2.5 million counted. At the same time, those peoples' votes will be counted this fall. If they don't have the nominee they wanted, they'll take it out on Obama. It's not their fault they have idiots running FL and MI. But Obama will never truly know if he could've won a fair race until those votes are counted. Can he live with that? I couldn't.

Veteran For Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Is there a condescending tone to this letter, or is that just the filter in which I perceive all of Clinton's words?

Its okay to be right   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

RB   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

I think a 50/50 split is the only acceptable way to seat these delegates. She keeps talking as though she thinks she's in the driver's seat. GO AWAY and take the "less educated, blue-collar voters who won't vote for a black man simply because he's black (50/50 black/white)" with you!! The Democratic Party is the party of equal opportunity. You lost fair/square based on the rules agreed to before the race began. You would be better served to start worrying about your Senate seat.

Murray   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Billary, er... Hillary is sinking to a new low. This morning she said Obama can't win the non-college educated white vote, now this! Poor thing, grasping for straws when there are none in sight.

Linda   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Why doesn't she mention the original document they both signed stating that MI and FL would not count if they did not follow the rules.

bill in nyc   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

haha...this is awesome...did she include an expert of her NPR statement that it's clear MI anf FL don't count...or a copy of the letter she signed stating that these delegates wouldn't count? apparently this became 'a civil rights issue' b/c she's losing...

I love this...she's so pathetic...

Rich   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

"I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted. "

Except before these primaries happened when she said "they won't count." After you saw the results would have favored you and you couldn't win without them, since then you have been consistent about this.

Another inconsistency...you turned down some suggested solutions, too. Solutions have been proposed that overly favor one or the other candidate, and you have both opposed these, and rightly so.

wayne porter in Seattle, Wa   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

It doesnt surprise me.. Why dont she post the letter that was signed by all the democratic presidential hopefuls before the race begin that clearly stated Michigan and Florida would not count. That is the reason the number of delegates of 2025 is the key to receiving the nomination. I didnt notice anyone standing up when both of these states knew the facts at the time the states chose their path. Obviously, the Presidential nominee will seat the delegates but not during the race to 2025. The only reason why she wants to play this card now is to make her next case that the race is to 2209 delegates for the nomination.. Dont fall for this strategy, trick, pander, lie, etc.. All the more reason to not pick her for a VP because she would do anything to be the President..

Obama Supporter   May 8th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

The begging letter is not going to make her numbers any higher. Hillary's campaign is broke and falling apart. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! She gets a A for effect. The bible states the same people you put down, will be be the same the people you will see when you fall down. Why should Obama trust her, after all those names she called him, and TRIED to run his name in the gutter. GIRL STOP!!!

Somebody call her and tell her YES WE CAN!!!!!

Emiel   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

From the Berkeley Daily Planet:

Both states disregarded the DNC position and held maverick primaries in January. Eager to please the superdelegates on the DNC, both Clinton and Obama agreed with the rules, and both signed pledges not to campaign in either state. “You know,” Senator Clinton remarked, “it’s clear the election they’re having isn’t going to count for anything.”

Flipflop, flipflop

Sharon   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

HILLARY – THEY BROKE THE RULES THAT YOU AGREED TO !!!

Hillary makes me Sick !

Old & White   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Hey Hag,

It's OVER

GIT GONE already.

Pepou   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

She is NOT going to win, even with Michigan and Florida. When is the woman going to stop ? Starting with divisive remarks like those she issued today regarding her attracting "white" voters.

Brian in Georgia   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

If she's so sincere about seating them, then seat them but split them right down the middle for both candidates. Oh wait...that doesn't help her win. I guess she wouldn't be for that then. What next...she'll say that caucuses are un-democratic? Oh wait...

Sam   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Dear Senator Clinton,

Thank you for your hypocritical and completely insincere letter concerning the voters of Florida and Michigan.

Apparently you do not understand the meaning of the word 'consistently' as you had no problems with the votes in those states not counting until you unexpectedly found yourself in second place.

If you're honestly concerned about those votes counting, and not just counting in your favor, then let's try to work together to reach a resolution. First, you will have to stop blaming me for stopping the process as that is a lie – and, in fact, the states themselves could not come to any agreements within their own legislative bodies.

Again, thank your for your letter and your blatant hypocracy.

for the good of the democratic party   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

If I were a michigan or florida democrat, I would find out who in their states decided to move the party up and I would vote them out of office.

zona   May 8th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

My comment to Hillary Rodham Clinton is to go home with Bill.

Florida and Michigan knew the rules at the start of the game. I feel sorry for the voters, but those in charge did this to the voters, not Dean or Obama or even Clinton. The states knew the rules and didn't play by them.

Why is Clinton trying to get those votes counted NOW? Could it have anything to do with how down she is in delegates? SHE KNEW the rules of the game, too. She knows those rules have not changed.

Alston   May 8th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

All the uneducated ... err sorry, blue collar voters supporting Hillary must be so proud of their candidate right now.

Obama should not let his guard down for a minute. The Clintons will sell their own to get this nomination.

Independent99999   May 8th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Hillary need to be admitted into a MENTAL HOSPITAL immediately. She cannot even honor her own agreements signed prior to the race began.

FL and MI did not matter to her UNTIL she was behind.

This pathetic woman need to be in a MENTAL HOSPITAL

amh   May 8th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

I am tired of hearing Clinton go on about how the votes in Michigan should count. Obama wasn't even on the ballot. I, like many others I know, didn't even go to the polls to vote since I wanted to vote Obama and did not have that opportunity. I was told that my vote would not count anyway but I would have cast it nonetheless if Obama had been on the ballot. It is disingenuous of Clinton to go against her own party's wishes and then make out like Obama is the unreasonable one for "disenfranchising" the voters of Michigan. This Michigan voter would feel VERY disenfranchised if the DNC just ignores it's own rules and gives the delegates to Clinton.

Thanks for all the Fish   May 8th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Hang, she specifically said that they should be penalized in the beginning until she needed the votes to win...

Ah, it's all just a big democratic ploy to keep people playing their game. Pelosi actually came out and said Clinton still has a chance of winning – ok, whatever! Winning what exactly? Second place?

FL and MI will be seated, so I don't know what the big fuss is all about. Obama is the nominee, even if you count the delgates he is still ahead. Can we please move onto the general election??

If McCain weren't such a complete dunderhead I would so vote repub, but the democrats really need to take office.

fred   May 8th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Obama is the one shooting himself in the foot!!

GO Hillary!!

Count the votes as they stand.!!

Xango   May 8th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

she forgot the part where she agreed that it was the rules, but then at taht time she thought she would win, and that young black senator from IL had no chance..

oh billary, things will forver comeback to bite you , just like the racist comments you are pulling now, which make you sound not just delusional, but you sound like Limbaugh and Henedy
by god, i truely think you are republican

Denny Sangiovanni   May 8th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Yes, we need to be counted. We want you to hear our voice of who we have choose.

mike   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Oregon has Hope and wants change – You do not speak for me. I to want change real change. The stuff your guy can not deliver. Here is his cance to change to allow votes to be counted. You Obama supporters have not changed. You all participate ion the same old negitive poilitcs. Don't think that is true just read some of the posts here. You are all hypocrits that are going to cost us Florida Nd Michigana and the general election. Jesus stop and think about what you are doing. Disenfranchizing voters, pressuring people to drop out.

Gordon   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Obama won't join you Hillary because he's a BIG CHICKEN.

He knows that Mich and FL are Clinton territory . He is afraid of the truth, he's a looser.

Like CNN keeps stating ..He has 91% of the Black vote...he has no platform to stand on ..just blind people who vote for race verse the facts

Lilly   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

OMG

She's completly gone insane !

Marc PDX   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Puhhhlease! Hillary, give it up already! Mathmatically you've lost – even if you take 2/3s of the delegates from Michigan and Florida. It's going to come down to the superdelegates now no matter what you do with the state delegates at this point. And the superdelegates are not going to overturn the will of the people. If they did they would create such a civil war within the democratic party that it would take several years to heal. And that would mean losing congress 2 years from now as well. The party is just not going to do that just because this was "your turn" in your mind. Now get out of the way and let us all MoveOn.Org!

Delaware   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

I wonder if Hillary Clinton is the one that make and change rules for the Democratics party whenever she wants. Now Hillary Cliton state that if the Democratics party has the rules that the Republicans have she would be the nominee long time ego. I suggest that Hillary go run as a Republican candidate if she wants their rules. Rules are rules; Florida and Michigan had mess up their chances to have their delegates sit and I believe that it not to Hillary's power to tell the DNC how to sit them delegates. These delegates from these two state should not be seated at all. The Democratics party is losing its standard by seating Florida and Michigan and in the future any state could just say well I am doing my primary in such and such date because Florida and Michigan did it and they get away with it.

BGIV in NC   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

OH PLEASE BARACK I WANT TO PRESIDENT AFTER ALL IT IS MY TURN! WWWWHAAAAAAAAA WWWHHAAAAAAA ITS JUST NOT FAIR AND THE MEDIA IS SO MEAN WWWWHHHHAAAAA WWWHHAAAA

McCain for President   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

I think by allowing Florida and Michigan delegates to be seated, a dangerous precedent will be set. In following primary elections, state powers to be can buck the primary election schedules by holding primaries early than scheduled by the DNC. They can then say "well Florida and Michigan delegates were seated in 2008, so you can't penalize us." And no, I'm not an Obama supporter.

voter   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

I find it interesting considering that TPM said she rejected the MI plan to seat the delegates 69-59. She said she wanted the delagates seated as the election results in Jan which provided her an 18 point margin. This is ridiculous considering Obama's name was not on the ballot. The proposal from MI seems reasonable and she should agree to it if she believes the delegates should be seated. Compromise is important.

Alice   May 8th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

ya know, I can kinda picture her making these same arguments while we watch Obama get sworn in next January . . .

LB   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

First of all, Obama wasn't even on the Michigan ballot! And second of all, Obama didn't even campaign in Florida because he FOLLOWED THE RULES.

Hillary is a piece of work.

60 year old white female, Mo   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Hillary would like to become a President; Do you as a President you must show how to respect rules; DNC set up rules... and theses rules should be respected no matter what.. You don't have the right to change the rules in the middle of the game... Michigan and Florida will be divided 50/50 or you get nothing... but they will be represented at the convention... Don't count on them to get the Nomination... Its too late... Cheaters... and Shame on you looser Hillary, Racist Hillary...

Independent   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

I think I just puked in my mouth. I'm a Florida voter, Hillary Clinton, and you don't speak for me!!

Tim   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

The delegates from FL & MI will be seated, but by the terms from the DNC. In her letter, why did she not explain why she signed on the dotted line that they should not count? She needs to explain to the American people why the change in heart.

But more importantly, I am personally disgusted by Senator Clinton's statement that Hard working White people want her to be President. This is uncalled for. I am very disappointed and saddened right now. I am an Obama supporter and although I would have been upset for Senator Clinton get the nomination without earning it, I in no way would vote for John McCain. You know I really thought that it made sense to let this continue till June. However, if this is the kind of stuff we have to look forward to, I think it's time for Howard Dean to step in and the Super Delegates to step in to end this. This cannot be allowed to continue for the good of the party.

Democrat 08
Let’s unite to fight!!!!

TL   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Can she stoop any lower?

Disgusted!   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

She has been asking for this from the DNC and we all know that Howard Dean has fixed this so that the delegates will not be seated until the convention. Obama will not do this because he has never, nor could he ever, be the Democrat that Clinton is. He could care less about all votes counting or anything else. He used to be for all votes counting until it worked against him. Flip-flop again from the poorest candiate of the three.

T-rel   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted.

Did you forget the part, where you signed an agreement stating the votes would not count? I repeat ,"you agreed those votes would and should NOT COUNT" . You are such a pancake (flip/flop)

No Hillary   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Hillary... in future you will be just ignored and we will concentrate on ur best friend McCain.... no room for working with you on anything with all the demage u have done to the party. Yes it is 3Am and we will NOT pick up ur call....

Worried Democrat   May 8th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Josh Calden: are you on crack? we should continue the iraq war so we can fight al qaeda? you are so dumb that people like you shouldn't be allowed to vote or have children. Get real man. The Iraq war is a blunder and hasn't made us any safer. Obama will end the war and send more troops into Afghanistan where the real terrorists are training at this moment.

It boggles my mind how uneducated people in this country are. I'm glad that young people like me are the future and we are supporting the most intelligent candidate = Obama

MCD   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

hmmm, this might have carried more weight if it was post dated back before she started losing and couldn't care less about these 2 states.

Obama mama, Grayslake IL   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

To whom it may concern, even if the Florida and Michigan can be added or counted Hillary is not going to win. The MATH says it in a reply that says NO HILLARY you lost the game when you did get 0 out of 11.

It is a pity that some people are still cheating Hillary telling her that she can still WIN. It is impossible for her to win, she can still continue with the race up to the end so that she can get out with disgrace. By that time the Obama train would have left the platform.

D.J. Morales   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Hillary Clinton does not want to understand that the rights of the American voter are not being threatened, but rather that the rules established by the Democratic Party have been violated, and as a result sanctions apply that must be enforced in order to maintain authority and credibility within the party. She does not want to understand this because a reversal of the rules would benefit her and not necessarily the American voter. This is an example of the kind of ethical and moral leadership that is being offered from an already tarnished political family who has in the past justified perjury and duplicity in order to attain and maintain power.

Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Guess what – Obama does "owe" the Americans in Florida and Michigan to have their vote count. He has "presidential things to do" so he does not have time for this? Obama has some pretty stupid followers.

Cathy   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

She is right. Democrates will not will if they do not count M & Fl. You are crazy if you thing they do not need these delegates to be counted. It does not matter if it is Obama or Clinton. Stop fighting.

Sophia   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

The party needs to stop her now. She is losing her mind. Please bring in the men with the white coats and jackets.

Rennae, VA   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Why should your OPPONENT in a presidential race HELP you sustain your campaign when it' sinking???

Have some dignity woman, and just bow out with your political legacy in tact.

Every day that you wallow in this defeat tarnishes any kind of political future you have.

Wilfredo Torres Jr.   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

I REALLY DONT LIKE HER!!!!
She's loosing and is still trying to find a way!

Obama '08

LT for Obama   May 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Really? Just call him out like this? What modecrum of respect I had left for her is not gone. Unbelievable.

Michigan   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Tell HRC to FOLLOW THE RULES THAT SHE AGREED TO. Even though I'm from Michigan, I genuinely believe that the consequences set forth by the DNC MUST BE HONORED. Otherwise, what is the point of setting a boundary? I have to follow rules, my kids have to follow rules..... HRC YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES, TOO!!!!!

Sherri   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

She agreed with the rules. She should abide by the consequences of Florida and Michigan breaking them. The rules were set and agreed upon a full two years before the election. This is dishonest and political trickery. The voters of MI and FL should oust their party officials for disenfranchising them. The rules should stand.

joyce   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

what a joke
she knows the dnc is working on this and she wants to take the credit to look good for the sd. well they are not stupid. no end to how stupid she thinks the american people are. beside rules was ruls and need to be stuck to. set am example for the younger generation

Jeff in CA   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

this is crazy! we as democrats more than anyone know that every vote should count and that the party will not win in nov. if this mess isnt cleared up by the end of the nomination process.

Hillary and her team are 100% right in asking for this. Its just Obama and his very Bush2000-like attempt to not count the votes then prematurely declare a nomination victory.

I'm telling you now, I WONT LET IT HAPPEN AND WILL DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO EXPOSE HIS HYPOCRISY.

This nomination will not be decided until any one nominee achieves the required numbers during the ballot process at the convention in August. PERIOD!

Theres a lot of time between now and then and many thing could and probably will happen. Drug Dealing Past, Rezko, Wright (again!!), and the views and legal writings of his wife.

YOu want to play GOP Playbook dirty Obama...?? I'm up for it and will match it double if you start it.

Bring it on you Fraud! Hillary all the way!!

Vickie   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

IS SHE FOR REAL?
This letter should have been dated JANUARY 8th!

It's too late now!

Chucklut   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Its a simple matter really, Florida and Michigan were told by the DNC that if they break the rules, they lose the delegates. These states openly defied the DNC and held the elections early. The people of Florida and Michigan should be upset at the state leadership for this debaucle, for it was them that decided to break the rules

Now Hillary is trying to count them for the simple reason that it boosts her standing in this primary race. In fact she doesnt want any of the delegates in Michigan pledging for Obama because his name wasnt on the ballot.

The Truth of the matter is that neither candidate actively campaigned in Florida and Michigan because the DNC said the delegates would not be seated. The DNC should stick to its guns and the people of Florida and Michigan should express their outrage at the state government

Jacki NC   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

I doubt she would want them counted if Obama had campaigned in Florida and Michigan and if she was ahead in delegate count now. She would be saying that they knew the rules and we have to abide by them. If Obama's name had been on the ballot in Michigan chances are she would not have won there. Hillary agreed to the rules in the beginning, but of course that is before she found herself behind in votes and delegates. She never thought she would be behind so I guess that is why she stated in the beginning that she would abide by the rules. Still she attended fundraisers in both states which was within the rules. Obama and Edwards did not even have their names on the ballot in Michigan but she sure kept hers on it. This election has gotten to the point of being absurd.

Veronica Morrow-Reel   May 8th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

I don't appreciate Sen. Clinton flip-flopping. I am one of her supporters, but I am also a fair person. In the beginning all the other candidates and Sen. Clinto agreed to abide by the DNC rules. The said they would stand by them. This is make her look desperate becuase now she is trailing Sen. Obama, she is changing her mind. It gives the appearance that she is willing to do anything to make sure "President" is a part of her title. This is not what I want in my president,. therefore not only am I not going to vote for Senator Obama, I am not going to vote for her because of this.

If it is overturned, they should allow all those that were running to make the decision if the votes should be counted.....how does she know that she and Sen. Obama would have really won the state in a fair election?

Signed,
I'm sitting this one out.

Alice in Florida   May 8th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Obama better listen to her if he expects to carry Florida and Michigan in November if he gets the Democratic nomination. The fact that Obama is not supporting my right to vote is my #1 issue with him right now, and it's the MAIN reason that no matter WHAT he says or does, McCain will get my vote in November if he is running against Barack.

I cannot vote for someone who thinks it's fine to disenfranchise me.

Lee-- Dallas, TX   May 8th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Roll the tapes. Hil was not always in support of the rules being changed in the middle of this process until she started falling behind. It's been a number of times Hil has tried to change the rules to her advantage.

C. Hankins LV,NV   May 8th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Great letter Sen. Clinton, however I do have a few questions. What about the voters that did not turn out because they were told that their votes would not be counted. What do we say to them? When it looked like you would win the nomination, you were for not counting the two states, now that you are losing you want them to count. This is not fair! Rules are Rules it is unfortunate that we are in this situation. If you want to be fair split them down the middle, if they must be counted. The delegates that is.

Daniel from Kansas   May 8th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Hillary, Hillary, HILLARY:

You SIGNED AN AGREEMENT that they would not count! You SIGNED IT!

Even if we counted Florida and Michigan, YOU STILL LOSE!

Please, PLEASE, salvage what is left of your honor and gracefully bow out. Y

Pam   May 8th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

She's using Michigan and Florida the same way she used the gas tax holiday gimmick. She wasn't concerned about those voters before the primaries started.

CHICANO ART, ARIZONA   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

It is funny how African Americans have always fought for civil right and voter rights and now they are willing to turn their back on voters in Michigan and Florida. If the DNC does not seat Michigan and Florida farily, I will officially leave the party and stick a John McCain 4 President sign in my frontyard. Barrack is a joke and I cannot support his candidacy. I am sorry. Obama cannot be trusted to advace the cause of Mexican Americans in this country, he is hypocritical. He is a typical politician and any appeals to secure the Mexican American vote will be met with resistance. If the DNC rules against true democracy I do not believe they will be able to carry the torch of the Mexican American people.

sky   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

...can you imagine what the Klingons would say about a candidate who believes they won a race when the other candidate was not even a contestant..... I hear the sound one hand clapping

Jennifer, Chicago Illinois   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

She just regected a proposal that Michigan put on the table, and now she's sending this letter to Obama? Talk about pathetic and desperate.

OBAMA 08

JKFriz   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

I'm agog that her letter doesn't even mention the compromised conditions under which those elections took place, nor the fact that she was the ONLY candidate on the ballot in Michigan.

"you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"

- HRC, 10/10/07

Tai   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Hillary, can we please go away before we all lose the little respect we have for you.

Steve   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

MSNBC, other wise known as "Musslin State National Broadcastting Company" is trying to sway America's Elections for the radical left. I think there should be a floor fight in Denver in AUG. For The Soul of the DNC

Robert   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

A revote is fine, but you can't just count the votes already collected in Michagan – Obama wasn't even on the ballot! How could he win?

Sounds good, but Hillary doesn't really care about the votes of Florida and Michigan. It's about the delegates she needs if she is going to have any chance of winning the nomination.

don from canada   May 8th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Hillary agreed with the Democratic National Committee that the votes from both states would not count because they violated the rules.
Now that she can't win she pretends that they need avoice and she wants to help them all she really wants is the delagates.
Simple solution for the DNC take all the delegates in both states and give both Clinton & Obama 50 % of each states delegates. FAIR IS FAIR & PROBLEM SOLVED !

Joe - Wilmington, DE   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

...like she would give a crap about the "disenfranchised" voters of either Michigan or Florida if she was winnning.

Give it up Hillary. This is really getting boring.

shannonL   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

This is proof that Clinton is NOT quitting. For the first time in a long time, her campaign does something intelligent. Clinton just made sure that Obama has to agree to count the Mi Fl votes. If he does not, he will now appear to not care about those two states. Her letter put the ball in his court.

If he says no, he is the person disenfranchising the two states. She put the ball in his court.

TBS, Northridge, California   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Dear Senator Obama,

"Since your name was not on the ballot in Michigan, I hereby demand that the votes should be MINE all MINE!

Salaam, Lawrence KS   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

What happened to the pledge that all Democratic presidential candidates signed when MI & FL Democrats decided to change their primaries? As far as I remember, Hillary DID sign the pledge. This is just another attempt to twist the facts, when the numbers are not in her favor

DemocracyNow2008   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

The Michigan and Florida State leaders broke our Primary rules and as a Democrat they should not be given any special treatment period.

Who the hell does Hillary think she is trying to tell Obama what to do?

The only reason she want them seated her way is to try and steal the nomination .
Got some breaking news its not happen and we know your dirty game that you play .
Go away Hillary now we are sick of having you around maybe McCain will accept you as his vp.

Nathan Prophet, Raleigh, NC   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Right, Hillary – as usual, when you are not winning the game, you change the rules of the game in your favor. You are just too much – incredible – that is IN-CREDIBLE. You are not a credible person. You agreed to the rules for Florida and Michigan, and both states KNEW the rules and consequences of them breaking the rules. They went ahead anyway, and now you are whining about it. If Barack Obama had won the popular vote in Florida and Michigan, would you be clamoring to "have the votes count"? We all know the answer, "No way". You're a Clinton, and this is what America has learned comes from Clintons, bad sportsmanship and cheating, pretty much like the Bushes.

Shioh WA   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

She won't compremise at all. She is the one blocking MI and FL by refusing to have any sactions against their braking the rules. The more she can convince voters she has a chance (which she doesn't) the more donations she can grab to pay off her debts. A donation to her is a donation to her multimillion dollar bank account. This is how she repects low and middle income voters-by lying to them to pay off her loans and debt. I hope people don't let her take advantage of their patriotism and good will.

RD   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Fantasyland and the real-world appear to be one in the same for the Clinton campaign. The idea that Obama would simply roll-over and allow the delegates for these states to be seated based on the Jan. results is ridiculous. While I agree with the notion this needs to be resolved and done prior to the convention, this approach is clearly flawed.

Addtionally, the Michigan revote proposal had major holes which included preventing those Democrats, who voted in the Republican race because their candidate of choice wasn't on the ballot, to vote in the new primary. Again, flawed and completely unfair. One of the major reasons why Obama would not agree to this approach.

Ben- Portland   May 8th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

She's pretty relentless, huh? Is this tenacity or denial? I can't tell anymore...

An Agnostic Democrat   May 8th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

She only "consisently said" AFTER it was clear she had already lost after Super Tuesday. Clintonian (Bush-lite) math and rules need not apply.

Nikki, Florida   May 8th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

"I have consistently said they should be counted" except when you agreed to the rules before the vote about states moving their primaries...consistency????

And Hillary never wants compromise. She wants her way – "working together" for a Clinton translates as "bend yourself to my will"

IF and only IF there can be a fair way to count my state and MI, THEN I say Barack should agree...otherwise, it's just Hillary's desperation and back-handed tactics talking and Barack should stay away

fred   May 8th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Good for you Hillary. He doesn't want them counted because he will lose. He will lose anyway in the General Election. People are starting to see him for what he really is.

I asked my 18 year old son why college kids are voting for Obama and this is exactly what he told me. Obama said they he would legalize Marijuana. Is this the change that young people want????

rs   May 8th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

She has a crush on Obama.

sky   May 8th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

It would have to be a revote because Obama was not even on the ballot in Michigan. Hillary kept her name on the ballot even though the DNC told her not to.

In florida thousands of voters did not even vote because they had been told it would not count.

How do you proceed and reconcile that the votes in those states were done without correct representation from bothcandidates.

pj in va   May 8th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Since Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, her request is insane and moronic, just like the entire Clinton Family. Either hold a new primary or split the delegates 50/50. There is no other choice. Florida seems to screw up every election, so my advice if you want your vote to count, move out of Florida! Fool me once...blah...blah. Michigan appears to be heading in the same direction, so don't move there!

Allen deLuca - Florida   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

WAY TO GO, HILLARY. YOU KNOW THAT B.O. WILL NOT WORK WITH YOU ON THIS BECAUSE HE REALLY DOES NOT WANT ALL VOTES TO BE COUNTED - HE ONLY WANTS TO WIN (AT YOUR AND DEMOCRACY'S EXPENSE). YOU DO HAVE BACKBONE, LADY.

Greg, NY   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Hillary now:

"I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted."

Hillary before the primaries:

NHPR's Laura Knoy: "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, Hey Michigan, I'm off the ballot?"

Hillary Clinton: "Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"

David   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Desparation is not a scent of cologne!

Alan Boyer   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Be careful, Barack! A trap could be in the works.

Carl Dupont   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Frolida and Michigan issues should be resolved between local democratic leaders and the DNC leadership. Fro Hillary to ask Obama to resolve the problem that wa caused by her, it will be a mistake for Obama to be involved in th eissue beside the DNC leadership and local leadership. Obama should know that trap.
Hillary want to put Obama in trouble as if she knows more politics than Obama. Obama should wait until the DNC called a meeting in which him and Hillary will be invited to discuss the issue.
Hillary should olso be punished for letting her name on the ballotin Michiagan and for all the document she signed on that matter.

mr. reality   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

WOW.... this is turning into limbo for Billary... how low can you go

Teacia   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Wow...she's at it again. Anything to win...I live in Florida and you know what I didn't vote that day b/c I like many voters who follow the rules knew it wouldn't count. So what about us Hillary, what are you going to do to make sure our voice is heard.

And to those supporters who cry let the votes be counted, are you going to teach your children that when the rules are broken you should get a do over??...no, I didn't think so either.

JT   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Fine, count their votes... but you said it yourself Hillary... The count must be "FAIR".

It is not fair to agree to not campaign or be on the ballot of both states and do it anyway, and now complain that Obama somehow did the voters wrong by following the party's rules.

No More Years, Lake Forest CA   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Interesting. Except that she has not consistently said the votes should be counted. Last October, she said that the contests wouldn't count for anything, and like the other candidates, she signed a pledge to that effect. She needs to come clean on that.

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   May 8th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

After all the crap she's put him through?

If I were Obama, I would tell her KMA!

But he's better than that. He'll probably help her get the Michigan and Florida delegates seated.

AFTER he secures the nomination!

Roger B from Portland, OR   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Is she trying to blame him? That is what this letter sounds like! I think Obama will support something that is fair and all those proposals were not.

For the love of this independent   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Too bad she was so lousy and campaign managing.

RickytheGriff   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

More Hillary Jedi Mind Tricks.

Remember, it was Hillary who signed that piece of paper saying that Florida and Michigan wouldn't be counted.

Much like she signed NAFTA.

Now that she's losing she wants to say, "Sorry, I had my fingers crossed behind my back"!

Obama 2008

Red   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

"I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan should be counted."

Except when she was the, "inevitable nominee," back before the primary season got started in earnest, and voted–along with the rest of the DNC–to bar the delegates from Florida and Michigan from being seated at the convention as punishment for moving their primaries up.

I find it interesting that so many people blame Senator Obama for, "disenfranchising," the voters of Florida and Michigan, when all he's really doing is sticking to his original vote–something Senator Clinton seems to have a great deal of trouble doing, when that original vote no longer benefits her aims.

Changing the rules just because you're losing isn't about "protecting the rights of the people," Hillary–it's called throwing a tantrum because you aren't winning according to the rule set you originally agreed to.

Edgar   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

at 1st all the candidates agreed not to count this 2 states and now we are talking about sitting some coming up with different rules.

if rules are rules lets go by what everyone agreed on.

This should of been an issue before the primaries not after someone gets behind then becomes an issue.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD STOP RESPECTING THE CLINSTONS AND GO BY WHAT EVERYONE AGREED ON.

SICK OF THIS ISSUE. RULES WERE THE SAME FOR CLINTON,OBAMA,RICHARDSON, BIDEN, EDWARDS AND ETC.

SO STOP COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND PROPOSALS.

OBAMA 08 & 12

For the love of this independent   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Send him a letter and make it public. She is good. Man she is good.

Claire, Texas   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Yamn. She is truly just a sore loser...

Milwaukee for Obama   May 8th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

She is provocking Obama to see what Obama says. she is making me so dizzy and everytime I watch or hear about her, I take my blood pressure pills. by the way, I supported her strongly at one time but now, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

JB   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Hillary no matter if you count their votes, you still short!!!!!!!!!! SO enough and drop out!!!!

honkey white guy from cali   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Now i know she is delusional! She is sending that to the wrong person. It is not up to Sen Obama. I hope he excepts this MI plan that is being put up she only gains 10 off of it and that is fair considering his name was not on the ballot. Also it is time she except some responsibility for this she signed that same agreement making those votes not count why because she did not think she would need them. She did not care about them. Now that her campaign is over she is trying to make this a wedge issue! I have nothing but pity for her now!

Go Obama 08 Yes We Can

Tired of W, OH   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

I'm not even going to say the obvious. It's been said a million times and if the Hillary supporters don't get it by now, they never will.

Adam   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

You have lost Hillary, get over it! It's done. I agree we do need to seat those delegates, but not according to YOUR rules. I have to give it to you, your political pandering is superior to anyone I have seen, however let's stick to the facts. Attack the respective state's leadership. They are the ones to blame. They moved up the primaries when they were REPEATED told not to. You were fine with these rules until you LOST. Please for the love of the country, accept this. I have full confidence that the DNC will find a way to seat the delegates. But this postering in the public to TRY and make yourself look good is failing big time.

Zoe   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Disgusting......this woman is as low as you can get.
No character, no nobility, not what is best for her party or the country.
ITS ALL ABOUT HILLARY! I am ashamed she is of my gender.
She proves maturity in itself does not create wisdom.

A white grandma that can see past race

Jack Walden   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

OK Split them 50:50 if she really cares about Florida and Michigan. Lets not forget that she agreed by the party rules when she thought she was winning. Why didn't she show this concern initially?

Sal in Phoenix   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

There is no way Obama will agree to that..he has too much to lose..He's just lucky that he's under DNC rules..If all things were equal and the rules were the same as the Republicans, we wouldn't be discussing this because Clinton would already be the nominee..

Sarah   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

By hook or by crook, I demand to be President, whatever it takes. She makes me sick. OBAMA 08, NO MORE CLINTONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt in Austin   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

EVEN IF THE DELEGATES FROM FL AND MICHIGAN ARE SEATED - OBAMA STILL WINS.

Current counts:
Obama 1845 - Obama ahead
Clinton 1686

Add the Mich and FL delgates and you get
Obama 1976 Obama ahead by 100
Clinton 1876

Now - if the DNC does somehow come to an agreement on a revote – I'm sure you will see Obama's numbers rise anyway - he never campaigned in those states and was really an unknown quantity to many. Give him a chance to campaign - and if the past is indicative of the future – we will see Obama eat into Hillary's lead in those states anyway.

Sorry Hill - you fought a good fight, but time to throw in the towel.

Media blackout Date May 15th   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Has the Gimmick Candidate announced she hired Superman to help turn back time because she hired MARK PENN who didn’t understand the primaries were not a ‘take all’ states primaries and they should start over yet?

Hillary Clinton, the Gimmick Candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything '08 !

No Clinton   May 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Would this lady go and hide somewhere, why would Obama want her and Bill as VP's? for them to set him up to fail so that she can run for President in 12'.

Allen   May 8th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

actually she REJECTED Michigans plan to seat the delegates and in her letter she makes it plain as day, "I want the pop vote and nothing else matters, not even MI being seated."

Media blackout Date May 15th   May 8th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Has the Gimmick Candidate announced she will ask Obama to help her win the White House by 'letting' him work in her administration as the shoe shine boy yet?

Hillary Clinton, the Gimmick Candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything '08 !

Milwaukee for Obama   May 8th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Desperadooooooooooooooooooo

tidho   May 8th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

There's no reason for this, its more pandering.

Everyone knows where everyone stands and its in the DNC's hands not Obama's. Once the DNC comes up with their final recommendation then he (and she) should respond.

Just Thinking   May 8th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Is this appeal for real or for Hillary?

If she really cares about the Florida and Michigan delgates and not just her campaign she would agree to a 50/50 split. This way the delgates are seated but the votes (which could not be considered fair since neither party campaigned in Florida and Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan) will not have an unfair impact. In this case, Florida and Michigan are able to participate without avoiding the punishment of breaking the rules. Seems to work for everybody.

By the way–I am from Florida and most here really do not care one way or the other. This is more of a political issue than a real issue.

Media blackout Date May 15th   May 8th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Has the Gimmick Candidate announced she will ask Obama to help her win the White House by 'letting' him work in her administration as the shoe shine boy yet?

Hillary Clinton, the Gimmick Candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything '08 !

Cowboy Jack   May 8th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Obama doesn't have a shot at beating John McCain b/c the white and Hispanic demographics in the swing states (like FL) heavily favor McCain

Cammi317   May 8th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

I say go for it, she will still be decisively behind. This pander is, however, quite funny. She only cares because she believes it may help some of the super delegates swing her way. If she were ahead, she would care less if they were counted or not. For the record, I do believe every voice should be heard, I am just pointing out her lack of geniuine concern for the people of those states.

Frank (Cleveland)   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

This sounds less like a letter to Obama and more like a Letter to the Media to try to stir controversy and opinion against Obama.

Surprisingly she did not offer any compromise in her letter, nor solutions....

Countdown...   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

she's firing her last shots... She's like a mortally wounded animal, gasping for air one or two final times...

EXPERIENCE FOR TEXANS   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

In the enbd they will be counted. We are not a country of 48 States!
Sorry Obidiots!

Clinton 08!

Media blackout Date May 15th   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Has the Gimmick Candidate announced she’s on her way to the planet Jupiter because the only way to the White House is through the planet Jupiter yet?

Hillary Clinton, the Gimmick Candidate
Bill and Hillary, The Gimmick Family
Do and Say Anything '08 !

Chris-Atlanta,GA   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Ok....who actually thinks Hillary wrote this herself???

Oregon has Hope and wants change   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

CERTIFIABLY CRAZY

WHERE ARE THE MEN IN THE WHITE COATS WITH A NET :)

Shawn from Kansas   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Was it a political move, in desperation, to even make this letter public. Here we go !!!!

Venus   May 8th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

GET OUT NOW HILLARY!

Obama doesn't owe you nor MI and FL any thing!

They broke the rules! End of story!

Ha,ha,ha, I wonder what you will be doing when Obama becomes president 2009!

Go Obama!

Dave   May 8th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

Oh please. He's got presidential campaign planning to do.

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