May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
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Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise.
Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise.

(CNN) – Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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soundoff (395 Responses)
  1. Independant for Obama

    I prefer my proposal:

    Split the pledged delegates 65-63 for Clinton. It would have been a much closer race if Obama was actually on the ballot.

    Then make them all half votes as punishment like the RNC did. Bill Clinton has brought up how he liked how the RNC ran things, so this seems fitting.

    Finally, strip them of all superdelegate votes. It was these superdelegates that should have done something to prevent this mess from happening, not the voters, not the candidates, and not the DNC.

    Something similar could be done in Florida, but give Hillary a bigger portion of the pledged delegates, since both their names were on the ballot there.

    May 8, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
  2. Sharnie

    Regardless of the final decision on seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan, don't punish the voters, punish the leaders who thought up this lame brain idea of moving the primary dates. If the delegation is seated make sure the super delegates are not. The leaders broke the rules they need to pay the consequences.

    May 8, 2008 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  3. Aren't you tired of it too?

    Not a good plan. This was not just about HRC and Obama...the full field of democratic contenders agreed to the situation back then. But being the dirty fighter she is she agreed to the terms back then and somehow conveniently left her name on the ballot.

    HRC will be remember for being negative, divisive and truly mean spirited. Her commnets today makes me want to gag!

    Everyone who removed their names were not fools and suckers, they HONORED an agreement.

    May 8, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  4. matt

    Hopefully these votes count, because Im not going to vote Democratic if Obama wins PEriod.

    and out of everything people call me and many more a racist.. because we dont like him..

    Its not because hes friends with terrorists.. Or goes to a Cult church.. Or even NO EXPERIENCE AT ALL THAT WE DONT LIKE

    a vote for obama is a vote for mccain 08

    HIllary all the way

    May 8, 2008 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  5. Staci, LA

    I can not believe some of the logic on this board from Clinton supporters. "Obama was stupid to remove his name...oh well". No wonder she gets the uneducated votes. Obama followed the rules that both he and HILLARY agreed to, and he should loose votes?

    May 8, 2008 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  6. Ross in MD

    I'd think the Michigan delegates should be split in proportion to the national delegate split. That is, it should be 55-45 Obama to Clinton.

    Why should they split Michigan delegates 50-50 when Clinton hasn't been winning delegates at that pace?

    May 8, 2008 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  7. NEVER AN OBAMAPHILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WELL LET'S JUST CONTINUE TO DISENFRANCHISE VOTERS BECAUSE OBAMA IS AFRAID!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS A SHAMELESS HYPOCRITE AND SO ARE ALL OF HIS OBAMAPHILE SUPPORTERS.

    THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN WILL REMEMBER THE WAY OBAMA RELENTLESSLY FOUGHT TO HAVE THEIR VOICES SILENCED FOR HIS OWN POLITICAL SECURITY–AND HE CANNOT WIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION WITHOUT EITHER STATE!!!!!!!!!!!

    DIRTY ROTTEN OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DIRTY ROTTEN HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OBAMA'S NASTY LITTLE STUNTS WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT HIM IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OBAMA'S CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 8, 2008 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  8. Phil

    Fred: You sound a little Bitter, No on really gives a @#$* if you vote for him or not . Looser

    May 8, 2008 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  9. NObama

    Sure, this is a country of 48 states, right?

    Were it up to Obama supporters, we would alienate millions of Democrats that will be needed int he fall.

    Hillary is a fighter.. everyone knows that now.

    But sure, let's go w/ the American Idol voters and pick someone who will just be run over in the general election.

    HILLARY 2008!

    May 8, 2008 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  10. Bearcat

    Let me get this straight..

    So by simply leaving her name on the ballet in Michigan when all the candidates were encouraged to take their name off, Hillary gains more delegates. How is anything other than 50-50 fair?

    May 8, 2008 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  11. maricon

    QUE HIJA DE PUTA ESTA HUEVONA .

    QUE ES LO QUE PASA?

    May 8, 2008 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  12. Fredi

    If we go by the RULES – THESE VOTES WILL NOT COUNT.
    If we go by HILLARY's WORD – THESE VOTES WILL NOT COUNT.
    If we go by FAIRNESS – THESE VOTES WILL NOT COUNT.
    But there is something called GRACE and MERCY and the GREATER GOOD – I recommend Obama agree to the 69/59 split – NOT because Hillary DESERVES it – but because his vision for America is so MUCH GREATER than all these fights – let the HEALING begin.

    May 8, 2008 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  13. Rayshaun, New York

    I have a suggestion of my own, why don't we use the American Idol Votes as the tie breaker in Michigan, lol, The notion that Clinton should get a majority of votes from a contest that had only one person competing is absurd.

    May 8, 2008 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  14. gerald strother

    Limbaugh: today said he could not keep back the info of cliniton was the ones that gave the TAPE OF Rev. Wright TO RUN ON TV AGAIN CLINITON HAS NO SHAME

    May 8, 2008 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  15. georgia

    I empathize w/ the voters however it's their state officials who goofed & should take the flack This is how we learn the best lessons . What's the use of making rules if they're not to be followed by all.
    48 states could go by the rules & the 2 that chose not to should be rewarded ??? That certainly is not democratic. Furthur , I can't help but believe if the Clintons were ahead it definitely would not be an issue. Is this what you want your children to emulate about rules & repercussions ??

    May 8, 2008 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  16. ATLian

    Isn't Florida a Republican state anyway. Didn't they help steal the election from Al Gore? Who cares? Give her the delegates. It won't matter. Barack will still be ahead.

    May 8, 2008 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  17. Nunya

    When only some candidates are on the ballot the results of an election are invalid.

    When only some people bother to vote because they've been told the election is invalid, the results of that election are invalid.

    The results of the Michigan and Florida primaries as they stand from January do not reflect accurately the opinions of the states voters because of these reasons.

    The people who actually went to vote at that time can scream about feeling disenfranchised if the results are not counted. But guess what, you're not the only ones who feel disenfranchised. The people who didn't vote (because the rules said the vote was invalid) or couldn't vote as they wanted (due to candidate not being on the ballot) have just as much basis on which to scream disenfranchisement if the results *are* counted as they stand.

    May 8, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  18. Dennis F

    The way the DNC and Dean has managed the Primaries is an absolute national disgrace.

    Voters in Florida and Michigan have been disenfranchised from their right to vote for their nominee in the national elections. The voters in these 2 states did not cause this problem. The state governments and the DNC did that and it would seem that Florida's Republican government created this situation intentionally.

    So now in a Democratic Republic, voters have lost their rights. This is a debacle. Bad enough that we have a President who was crowned in 2000 because of the Florida election mess, now this.

    Of course everyone knows that the simple and fair solution, is to organize re-run Primaries. This would address fairness to both candidates and more importantly re-establish the rights of almost 3 million citizens.

    Even the cost issue has been addressed but Obama refuses because this could possibly compromise his lead, never mind that it is only right. What happened to the great democrat who wants to bring everyone together, you know unite people. Or the concept of doing things differently in Washington by doing away with the old style Washington politics 2 step. What BS, Obama’s no different. He just babbles out all of those sanctimonious platitudes.

    The candidates are not the main issue when it comes to Michigan and Florida, the issue is that America is a democracy where all its citizens have a right to vote. If anyone is against this principle of democracy then I cannot vote for that person. Obama has vetoed this solution. Obama (who was listed on the Florida Primary) was the only candidate that in fact, broke the rules by advertizing in the Florida Primary and he is against having the Florida Delegates seated because he lost.

    I believe it is within the DNC's powers to force the issues and set up the re-run but it does not want to upset African Americans or Obama because he is black. If there were 2 white candidates this issue would have been resolved. This is the truth but nobody dares to admit it publically.

    If after all votes (Superdelegates and Primary and Caucus voters from the 50 states plus the territories) are counted and Hillary loses because the count goes in favor of Obama then so be it. But America cannot have another election 2000 where some of its citizens are disenfranchised from their rights to vote. PERIOD!!!

    May 8, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  19. 62 year old white woman

    I have a message for "fred" and "darrell"........you both should be ashamed of yourselves! Fred, it sounds like you are "anti-American"...by writing such bigoted trash. I am a white woman and an Obama supporter, and after reading your message, I am sure that I am MUCH brighter than you. As for you Darrell, you too sound very anti-American. I know you are disappointed that Hillary's not doing as well as you would like, but saying that McCain is "closer to her thinking than Obama" is really eye-opening! Maybe Hillary should switch parties and join the Republicans?!!! So, Darrell & Fred, maybe you two should "open your eyes and wake up". Get your facts straight before you go spouting hate!

    May 8, 2008 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  20. MIke

    Had the situation been reversed the Hillary supporters would never be pushing for Michigan and Florida delegate inclusion.
    Obama would have been drummed out a long time ago for party unity.

    A 50/50 split will allow the delegates from two important states to be seated, a still penalize them for going early.

    Rules were signed of on by all of the candidates.

    May 8, 2008 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
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