May 10, 2008
Posted: 09:59 AM ET
Feminists look to be divided over the two Democratic candidates.
Feminists look to be divided over the two Democratic candidates.

NEW YORK (AP) — No constituency is more eager to see a woman win the presidency than America's feminists, yet — despite Hillary Rodham Clinton's historic candidacy — the women's movement finds itself wrenchingly divided over the Democratic race as it heads toward the finish.

At breakfast forums, in op-ed columns, across the blogosphere, the debate has been heartfelt and sometimes bitter. Are the activist women supporting front-runner Barack Obama betraying their gender? Are Clinton's feminist backers mired in an outdated, women's-liberation mind-set?

Ellen Bravo is a Milwaukee author and activist who advocates on behalf of working women — and is an Obama supporter. She faults Clinton for her 2002 vote authorizing the Iraq war and believes the
Illinois senator would be more supportive of grass-roots political action.

At times, Bravo, 64, has been dismayed by the harsh criticism directed at women like herself from pro-Clinton feminists.

"I felt it was an ultimatum — vote for Hillary Clinton or you're betraying the women's movement," Bravo said. "It's very self-defeating and alienating, particularly to younger women who,
regardless of who they support, don't like to be told, 'Do this. Do that."'

Clinton supporter Gloria Feldt, former president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, accepts that the women's movement is not single-minded, yet worries that the Obama-Clinton rift is
eroding whatever clout it might have.

"We're squandering an opportunity to be seen as a voting bloc that turns elections," Feldt said. "Unless we are working together, in a strategically thought-out effort to vote in our own
best interests, we are in danger of never having another election where people will say women can determine the outcome."

Overall, Clinton's now-endangered campaign has survived largely because of her 60 percent to 36 percent edge over Obama among white women voters in the primaries to date. But among college-educated white women — the demographic of many feminists and of Clinton herself — her edge is much smaller, 54 percent to 43 percent, according to exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks.

One factor in play is generational. There is a widespread perception in the women's movement that younger feminists tilt more toward Obama while most of their elders favor Clinton.

Clinton frequently mentions the elderly women she's met on the campaign trail who were born before women were able to vote and have confided to her they thought they'd never see a woman elected
president.

Indeed, 74-year-old Gloria Steinem, a Clinton supporter and icon of the women's movement, riled some younger, pro-Obama feminists with a New York Times op-ed suggesting that they were in denial about America's persisting "sexual caste system."

Ariel Garfinkel, a sophomore at Mount Holyoke College, wrote one of the many counter-arguments in an online column. She and many other young feminists supported Obama because they perceived the
Clinton campaign as trying to capitalize on racial divisions and to impugn Obama's patriotism.

"This pattern of old-style politics and adherence to un-feminist values is part and parcel of the campaign Hillary Clinton has run," Garfinkel wrote. "In this race, Barack Obama is
the true feminist."

New York-based author Courtney Martin, also an Obama supporter, wrote on Glamour magazine's blog Glamocracy last month that she was not backing Clinton "in part because she reminds me of being scolded by my mother."

But the 28-year-old Martin has joined in appeals for activist women in the two camps to tone down their hostilities and prepare to work together on behalf of the eventual Democratic nominee.

"I deeply respect what Clinton has endured as a woman painstakingly unknotting gender and power," Martin wrote for The American Prospect.

Another young New York-based feminist writer, Hannah Seligson, backs Clinton and feels somewhat isolated among her mostly pro-Obama peers.

"I shy away from conversations with them," said Seligson, 25. "They're so passionate and there's so much vitriol toward Hillary."

For all the divisions among individual women, there was little dissension at the best-known feminist group — the National Organization for Women — before its political action committee
endorsed Clinton in March 2007.

NOW's president, Kim Gandy, sees Clinton's determination and combativeness as among her strongest attributes.

"The women who've had to struggle the hardest and run into the most difficulty because they're women are clearly gravitating to a candidate they identify with," Gandy said. "They see her
fighting."

Gandy knows some feminists dismiss Clinton as a woman whose political ascension depended on her husband's career, but she rejects that thinking.

"She might have been president instead of him if things had gone a little differently," Gandy said. "No one will ever know whether her marriage to Bill Clinton held her back politically as much as it moved her forward."

While still holding out hope that Clinton can win, Gandy suggests that her defeat would be a huge blow to some feminists.

"It's hard to imagine that anytime soon there will be another candidate as extraordinary as Hillary Clinton," she said.

Gloria Feldt conveyed similar sentiment. "I'd feel very sad to miss this enormous opportunity to bring
the United States of America into the circle of nations that have had women as their leaders," she said. "I feel strongly when you have the opportunity to support a women so clearly qualified and
capable, do it. Do it for your daughter."

The campaign has brought the women's movement to a crossroads, according to Obama supporter Kate Michelman, the former head of the abortion-rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America.

"We're at a time and place where we don't have to base everything we think about in terms of gender, and that's a sign of progress," she said. "This rigid view that when any woman runs,
we have to all fall into line — that's contradictory to what I consider feminism to be about."

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


jw nyc   May 10th, 2008 1:44 pm ET

As Pelosi said, Hillary has already made history as the first viable woman to run for President. I applaud her.

Now, how about the VP spot?

Basanti, New York   May 10th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

The reason that women dont really head many states, 500 fortune companies etc, is because they cannot rally around another woman. such a shame. Hillary deserved better. This is history lost.

Janel, St. Paul, MN   May 10th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

When I came out for Obama months and months ago, several of my women friends and acquaintances expressed great dismay. "How can you? I thought you are for women's rights!"

I am, but the woman candidate in the race doesn't satisfy my requirements for president. It is that simple.

Sharon Minnesota   May 10th, 2008 1:51 pm ET

The Obama camp including Sen. Obama himself have no respect for Sen. Clinton, women or white people at all.

It's not about Sen. Clinton anymore, it's about keeping Sen. Obama out of the white house. It's not about democrat or republican parties anymore it's about saving our democracy from the ideology of hate and division. It's not about my one vote anymore but about millions of people who are going to vote in November to keep the radicals out of the white house.

We shall overcome.

Anna   May 10th, 2008 1:51 pm ET

I could never vote for a woman who threatens to obliterate my fellow human beings the Persians.
Nor could I vote for a man who threatened to do this.
Blindly following the distorted politics of Hillary because she is a woman does not make me a stronger more capable woman, it makes me a blind follower of feminist dogma.

linda hemmingsen   May 10th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

pelosi, was against hillary from the start and now is sucking up and pretending to be neutral how becoming of her. yah take the vp spot that oabma wifes says no way! the hate america couple in the white house that should give you some great pride maybe they will have ayers and rev. wright and rezko over for supper you get what you sow.

Matthew from Houston   May 10th, 2008 1:56 pm ET

Ultimatums almost always backfire on the individual issuing them. It matters not if it's perceived or declared. I started out wanting Hillary to get the nomination, but after the turn her campaign went south on the attack on her own party? That was enough for me.

Protest CNN for pusing joint ticket   May 10th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

Foxnews report: Obma just picked up two more supers!

Feminists: you should stand for equal women rights. Where do you stand as Clinton stood by her husband who has sexualy harrased women repeatedly? how pathetic you are.

darren   May 10th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

She can still run for president in 2016!

LATINAS FOR OBAMA   May 10th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

It is time to leave selfishness, ego, and child like behavior and VOTE for a democrat candidate we think will represent and lead this country. Your choice is a personal choice and no one should invade your personal choice. It is called R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

To vote for a woman just because she is a woman is totally irrelevant and immature. To vote for a black man for the same reason is equally harmful.

As a BLACK/LATINA/WOMAN I will VOTE and encourage my friends to vote for the BEST democrat we have running… and if SHE / HE does not win the primaries, let's vote for the next BEST we have.

Thank you!

axel   May 10th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

I think Hillary time
has come and it is time to go. She spend her millions and lost in the popular vote.
Axel

Diane T   May 10th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

As a feminist, myself, I don't think N.O.W. is doing enough to help
Hillary. In fact, they should be ashamed of themselves. We should be taking to the streets, screaming, and yelling and demonstrating about how terrible the media is treating her. All those male chauvinists like Keith Olbermann, Bill O'Reily, Chris Mathews, and especially Dick Morris, hate Hillary. Kim Gandy, the pres, of N.O.W., should resign.

Independent   May 10th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

While I applaud Hillary's effort, she has lost. I also resent women telling women that we must vote for a woman. would we do it because a man told us to? Not anymore. The feminist movement tuahgt us to be independent, strong and free thinkers. By this squabble of voting for Hillary because she is a woman is reminders of how we were once treated by men. I am white, female, middle income, not college educated, andover 50, and will proudly vote for Barack Obama. The women that are throwing such a fit that Hillary be nominated are setting back feminism more than 20 years, and are destroying what we have worked so hard to build. We have the right to choose. Hillary simply was not the right female candidate.

Meave   May 10th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

As a woman, educated and late fifties - I sincerely hope Obama chooses a VP that reflects the positions, behavior and character that has won my support. This would not be Hillary.

naomi   May 10th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

I don't think all feminists focus on straight gender; most identify with the ideals of a person rather than whether they are male or female. I think this is arguably a good thing, and that the feminist movement of women as free and independent thinkers would be silly to think that all in their cause would think/vote the same. I consider myself a feminist and had a very difficult time choosing between the two.

Matthew, Arlington   May 10th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

You know what i hate about the Clinton-style feminists? They say things like white-women should have a coordinated effort to vote as a block to determine the lection and don't get called on it.

How would the media or public react if a guy came out and said 'All white males should vote together so we can determine the election.' My guess is he'd be burnt alive as a 1950's sterotype and rightfully so. So please, tell me: Why is it wrong for a male to say something like that, but its ok for a women to do so? Seems like a double standard on gender to me.

Feminist   May 10th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Well lets see. Hillary has allowed herself to be used as a doormat by the most unfaithful, cheating excuse for a husband in history. But… she is white. Hmm let me think about this.

Lisa   May 10th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Go Hillary!!!! We still believe in you, I hope you win!!!!

Edana Popp   May 10th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

Go all the way, Hillary! Let's hear it for strong, smart women!
Unfortunately, other women are the most entrenched opponents of female brilliance.

faye, NV   May 10th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Hillary has set a record and as a woman I am proud. However, no woman sholuld belittle another or think that just because she is a woman this spot she be hers.

Race nor gender should be used as a tool against another person. We all feel very strong about the person we support. If it is Hillary I will support her, and like wise for Obama. I am a black woman and Hillary was someone I liked and respect. But this is not about gender nor race, it's about the person we believe can CHANGE things. God bless america and us.

Jan from Boca Raton, Fl   May 10th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Hillary would make any woman proud. She has done so much
for this country.

I am not voting for Hillary because she is a woman, but because I
feel she is the best qualified. The media has torn her apart and
has been very bias against her, but she gets back up still fighting.
Everything that has happened to Obama has been blamed on her by
his supporters.

As Romney said the Presidency is no place for an internship and
he is so right. Hillary may not win the nomination, but you can bet your
last dollar there are going to be millions of voters writing in her
name on the ballot, voting for McCain or not voting at all.

We cannot vision Obama as President or Michelle as First Lady.

Steve From Oregon   May 10th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Why are the feminists still hashing this out? Sen. Obama is the presumptive nominee. For those who haven't voted; why waste your vote on a candidate that can not win? Vote for a winner…Vote Obama!

Media blackout Date May 15th   May 10th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Another Gimmick from the Clinton campaign I see…

Women should take full control over not overplaying their "Feminists" card.

Women own companies, on boards of directors, lead news stories, head of households, MBAs, PH.Ds, Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers, Professors and SPEAKERS OF THE HOUSE and we sit here and act like we've made no accomplishments.

Being a Feminists doesn't mean acting handicap in this society. As a matter of fact, WOMEN are paid HIGHER than MEN.

Let's call it for what it is, white OLDER women against a black man! And Hillary knows this, looks how she panders to the white older women. She DARES NOT to speak that Feminists stuff to black women because we see through this.

Someone in the media should call her out on this and look at the base she's speaking to. Hillary is old enough to know better. She's a SENATOR…… a WOMAN SENATOR, ONE OF MANY! and she's acting like this is the year 1921.

She's playing off the emotions of women and this in itself is a crime.

Women of ALL COLORS and of ALL RACES are backing Obama because he is RIGHT, HONEST and MORE IMORTANTLY, DOES NOT PLAY WOMAN SMALL.

HILLARY THE GIMMICK CANDIDATE IS PLAYING THE SMALL CARD. CALL HER OUT ON THIS!

StopThinkVote   May 10th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Obama just picked up superdelegate Kristi Cumming of Utah

yayo   May 10th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

it's over hillary
the show is finish
go home hillary

John   May 10th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Obama doesn’t bully his way through issues. He doesn’t boast about our ability to obliterate nations and see war as the best way to achieving our goals. He sees that getting a health care plan through will take Republican support—I bet he’d love to see Hillary’s plan go through, but he knows his actually has a chance because the Republican’s can’t call it Socialistic. We need his kind of wisdom. I would like to think that this is wisdom his mother helped instill in him. Feminism should be about philosophy, not about what sex organs you have in your pants.

Ben   May 10th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Hillary's running on her husband's resume. What could be LESS feminist than that?

Helen   May 10th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

I agree , I applaud her for her tenacity and fighting spirit. She has already made history and should be very proud. However, I don't think that it should be at the expense of the democratic party's unity for the election.

A.B   May 10th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

As a single parent of three I understand the challenges that a woman faces daily on her own. We do not make the same wages and we raise our kids with substantially less money in our pockets. I am not dropping tears on my polyester, I'm just saying that women all over this country know how to work. Hillary is not an anomaly as voters like to refer to her. Here is why I was not going to vote for her. Hillary made two errors in my book. First, she took her husbands name. If she appeals to feminists than that is something they have obviously become more lenient over time. A woman should feel strong enough in herself that she does not have to grab another identity to unite. Second, when Hillary stood beside Bill after his affairs then I lost all respect for her. You can say she did it for Chelsea, or for political positioning, or whatever, but I would have cast my vote proudly for her if she would have walked away and worked her way through the senate as a single senator. I would be running door to door to campaign. As it is, I don't trust her judgment. She has become immune to back peddling. She is a great woman in her right but she could have been a star and in the end her alliance with her husband and her past might become her downfall

Kenneth M.   May 10th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

Slick Hillie does not deserve any credit for what she has accomplished in this race as she has defaced it from the point that she has lost on. If some how she manages to get the nod I will be voting for McCain. She is trashing herself, and the Clinton name. Part of bing a good candidate is applauding the winner as a graceful looser and she has not done that. He should not be paying her bills as the longer she stays in the race the more he will have to pay. That is why she is not in a hurry to get out, in the long run it will only cost him as payola for her to leave.

Lynn NDakota   May 10th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

Many conversations with women have had the same answer, if only it wasn't Hillary. She has baggage or something that doesn't appeal to some women. Let's face it, some women don't agree with the loyalty she has given to Bill and her I want to win at any cost approach. She has opened the door for a woman to enter the race for the presidency and I forsee this becoming part of the norm. Hillary is not the only woman in this country qualified to be president!!!

Bob Stephens   May 10th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

If the feminists feel comfortable with voting for someone that has a problem sticking to the truth, and race baits in her campaign, then they have the right person in Hillary.

Darryl   May 10th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

I could see Hillary getting the VP spot, but she has to be careful not to go negative against Obama.

A lot of there ideas are very similar to each other. I say every Democrat should vote whoever is the nominee.

Teacher in CA   May 10th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

I can understand why some women are upset about being pressured to vote for HIllary.

I, for one, think that women pressuring other women to vote for Hillary just because of her sex, is rediculous, just rediculous. Why should I vote for someone because they have they are the same sex as me? I prefer to vote for the best candidate in my eyes no matter what's between their legs.

I voted for Obama because, in my opinion, he was the best candidate.

Michael   May 10th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

I really wish women wouldn't be shallow enough to vote someone based merly on gender, it's sickening.

MK LA   May 10th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

It's so great we don't have to frame an election in gender terms. Unfortunately thats probably because gender issues take a back seat to racial issues in America. Hillary will soon be out of this race and with her goes the most qualified person to be President. I find it absurd that she has been out in front championing liberal agendas for years. fighting the headwinds of conservatism and we are now so willing to toss her aside for a slick packaged unexperienced Obama.
Just as women voters rejected the "Equal rights Amendment" they now are rejecting their chance to have a qualified women be President

Kirk   May 10th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY HILLARY !!! " YOU ARE AMERICA'S MOM "
Michigan Mothers For Hillary !!!!

JENA from Woodbridge   May 10th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

Hilary maybe a strong woman but I do not think that making her a VP will be good thing for Obama. She show a lot of negativity in this campaign. I don't trust her in Obama ticket.

Obama. you have to think carefully about this VP situation. DO NOT CHOOSE HILARY.

Go Obama 08

Marc   May 10th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

It is nice to know that an African-American and a Female can run for the most powerful office in the world. The negative attacks by Hillary and playing the race card is not helping though. Her going to feminists events and making it seem like the DNC is keeping females down and that men are not strong enough to run America is wrong. The Superdelegates need to hurry up and end this war within the Democratic party, or we will be done for in the GE.

Hands Untied   May 10th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

It seems contradictory that a woman's vote should be pre-determined when there's a female candidate. Don't be guilted into choosing based on chromosomes instead of issues.

Countdown...   May 10th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT OBAMA is the true FEMINIST.

The ultimate measure of the success of feminism will be when feminists will have the choice to not be forced to vote automatically for a woman when one is running.

Laura Young   May 10th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

I am a Clinton supporter and I am NOT "elderly" nor am I a "feminist." I support her for her policies, wealth of knowledge on every issue, and her experience. Period. I wish the media would stop trying label all of the Democratic supporters — including Obama's. We all have our own individual and valid reasons for supporting our candidate, whoever that may be. Give us all a break…

Diane   May 10th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

I am 1: older; 2: female; 3: white and 4: college educated. I guess I'm a quadruple threat! I am an Obama supporter although in the beginning I was willing to gladly support Hillary if she won the nomination. However, she has completely alienated me with her mean spirited campaign. I truly feel like she's a fighter, not for the Democratic Party or us, but for herself - for her ego and her legacy. I don't think she started out that way, but she has become everyone's scolding mother and she has played every card she could possibly think of to hurt Obama.

Lisa   May 10th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

If Barack win let's go independent. The democratic party didn't even count everyone's vote then claimed Barack is the winner. Why should we care what they do with Barack they didn't care about the voters in Florida and Michigan.

J.P. Boutros   May 10th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Here's the most sobering fact of all: Hillary wants to return to the home and office where her husband took sexual advantage of an employee - a much younger, impressionable subordinate.

Another thing I just don't get: Why would feminists embrace Hillary as their perfect candidate when she is succeeding in trying to become President not in spite of her husband but BECAUSE of him and his history? No self-respecting woman would have kept a man who did that so publically, in his office…. which ALSO was their home!

It would not have been so disingenuous a candidacy if she had left him back in 2000 and ran on her own merits, which are substantial. Running with such a husband makes her weaker.

gene   May 10th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Being male, may distort what I am trying to say, but the larger question should be "who can win in November". The answer to that should be Hillary Clinton. Wrong as it might sound, but a AA can not win at this time in our history. The voting patterns have already indicated that weakness. Had a two hour telephone conversation with my son today. He is locked in on Obama and his mother is locked in on Hillary. I only want a winner! I would take Gore, Edwards, Nader, if that would get the win.

An American in Canada   May 10th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

"We're at a time and place where we don't have to base everything we think about in terms of gender, and that's a sign of progress," she said. "This rigid view that when any woman runs,
we have to all fall into line — that's contradictory to what I consider feminism to be about."

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By the same token, just because a black man runs, do all blacks have to fall into line…. Answer they obvious have done so by 90% margins.

WOMENS SOMETIMES THE BIGGEST BETRAYERS OF OTHER WOMEN…

Lorna, NY   May 10th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

I have been hearing for several days that Barak Obama should select Hillary Clinton as Vice President. I think the media should allow Mr. Obama to make his own decision. It is unfair for the media to back him into a corner like this. I know that if it were the other way around, Hillary would not consider having Mr. Obama on her ticket.. In fact, if Hillary was leading, the media would have chased him out of the race already. When Hillary made the decision to run for President, she knew it was a man's world. She should take her punches and stop blaming what is happening to her is happening because she is a woman. Great women leaders never complain that they got treated unfairly because they were women. Please leave Mr. Obama alone and let him choose his own VP. That VP would have values that he is campaigning for and if he is going with "CHANGE", then, Hillary does not stand a change. She represents the Washington that Mr. Obama is fighting against.

sl la   May 10th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I don't see why it has to be crammed down our throat that she is a woman running for President. As a woman I should have a choice for whom I'm going to vote for. Her voice doesn't resonate with me for good or bad his does. She was playing old school politics that totally turned me off. It's a new day and believe me she has opened the door wide for the next female candidate who will have a new voice not the same party line.

Bayousara   May 10th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I am age 66, female, white, feminist, retired, mother/grandmother, and I just mailed my Oregon ballot.

Unfortunately, our state rep Peter DeFazio (somehow a super delegate), while Hillary was actually campaigning in Oregon, decided to drop her and go with Obama.

I am furious that a handful of "super delegates" are actually the ones who will decide, based on their OWN choices, who will be the Dem nominee. They won't be voting for the rest of us, only for themselves.

I am also mad at the posters who think it is OK to stop the primary process NOW before all the states have voted. If we do this, then we have not completed the process, so there should be no nominee.

I am writing in Hillary Clinton on the November ballot. I urge all people to do so who can't stomach Obama and who would not want to vote for McCain.

Will this help McCain. Probably.

But I think McCain has far more experience than Obama in most areas of foreign policy, which is to me the most crucial area of the presidency that Obama will face.

Considering it took him nearly 20 minutes to speak about his relationship with the Rev. Wright, I can't see Obama making any progress on really important topics.

Brian   May 10th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

I think if we can unite the party and Obama and Hillary came together as Pres/Vice, that would show the party we can as well. If that happens, it would be a easy walk to the white house for both of them. I think it will be difficult, but not impossible. This is history in the making!

poyoray   May 10th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

We're at a time and place where we don't have to base everything we think about in terms of gender, and that's a sign of progress," she said. "This rigid view that when any woman runs,
we have to all fall into line — that's contradictory to what I consider feminism to be about."

well, sadly, i guess this is true for black america then. they should try to transcend it, i doubt they can

Mia and Mike   May 10th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

The Democratic Party has been blessed with the opportunutiy to have two candidates representing "first." I continue to pray that this blessing does not become a curse.

Democrats '08!!!

Lorna, NY   May 10th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

I am a woman and I am glad a woman is running for President. It shows that this country is moving in the right direction. Hillary Clinton, however, is not the right woman for this position. I truly believe that the right woman will come along, and when she does, I will vote for her if I agree with her values and moral code. Hillary does not fit my values or moral code but, I thank her for paving the way.

Lilarose   May 10th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

jw in nyc, I simply CANNOT see Hillary being subservient to a younger man who has virtually NO EXPERIENCE!

You've got to be kidding! She would be bored to death!

I hope Hillary remains as a NY senator if she does not get the nomination. She has an outstanding record as a hard worker for that state.

I think she will be back in four years, and that is why she is staying in the race now. She wants to cover every primary and leave her mark for 2012!

Tom   May 10th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

I would actually be more interested in what black women feminist believe compared to white women feminist.

Black women are more torn due to gender and race of the candidates.

CIE   May 10th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has been hiding behind women's skirts for 16 years. But she is NOT for women's rights only her own power and control agenda. She will set the woman's movement back as her win at all costs rhetoric and constant falsehoods denegrates women of all walks of life.
I believe a strong woman can run this great country but Hillary ain't it.

Julie mn   May 10th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Time for a women in the white house!!!
Hillary is qualified, strong, experienced, loyal, but most of all ,I dont have to wonder if she loves America!

I hope she runs Independent, she no longer owes the party anything!
I hope the Dem party folds, they are a disgrace.

Cnn, why not my comments, at least I'm not mean.

Cyndi   May 10th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

I viewed Hillary once as a strong women, but after all the negative and ugly strategies she has set forth, she reminded me of a women scorned to get back at her husband for cheating and leaving her .

Hillary showed the women of this era that you had to fight dirty in politics to get your way and that is not the tone we need to send to young women. I think the tone was wrong.

I view Hillary now as a deseperate housewife with a revenge on her husband. She want leave him but , she has no where to go or a future to fall back on. This is wrong for our generation.

My advice to all women of color to follow your heart and vote for who you feel is the best person for your values, not your mother, grandmother, aunt or cousin. This is your decission and something you have to live with.

I voted for Obama because of change that I thought would really give this country another tone and different setting from the old past. The younger generations needs to have another tone to live by and progress more than our grandparents and parents did in their past. We need to look at making America a Nation of One and hold on to that dream. This can be started now . Let's not waste anymore time and energy to live in the past.

Remember time waits for no one.

Obama 08

Not in Nov   May 10th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

The DNC pre-selected Obama as the nominee.

They did EVERYthing possible to knock Hillary out of the race.

Even disenfranchising voters and giving caucus votes more weight than primary votes.

But the people aren't buying the sales pitch. Obama is a pandering, self-serving, cocky, arrogant, lying hypocrit.

We have seen with our own eyes…sorry Oprah, Kerry, Ted, Maria and Caroline. We have seen all the flaws you all work so hard to cover up.

That is why Obama needs the superdelegates to win the nomination. He could not seal the deal with the voters- even with all the help from the DNC, the media, and celebrities.

Clinton travelled as far ALL ON HER OWN.

Th3rdpwr, NC   May 10th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

I noticed, in this article that African-American women were not mentioned.
Traditionally, social/economic rise of White women does not translate into elevation for Black women; in this country, race has trumped gender. Cosequently, the improvements in the lives of African-American males has played a more definitive role in improvements/opportunities for
African-American females. Even those with the expressed puropse of empowering women, as this article indicates, seem to leave certain groups out of the equation.

B / NYC   May 10th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Can anyone PLEASE just name five things that Senator Obama has done for his State or our Country?

Anything at all?

hillary 08:   May 10th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF,
Obama would offer Hillary the VP spot, I would vote for him.
If not,
I can not help but to return to the republican party…. pronto.

Hillary has run a fair campaign and has the resume to fill the spot.
But, she could also wait out to run in 2012….

I love her spirit and will go to the grave with my decision.
SO, LET'S GET IT DONE democrats!

McCain could win this if he chooses a savvy running mate. WE ALL KNOW IT!

kingsley   May 10th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

If you want a female president, then vote for her. but don't try to get it stolen for her when she is losing. there are rules to the game. and that is to win, win, win. anything else is uncivilized and not democratic.

Desmond Sequeira   May 10th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Please!!!

Are you voting Gender? Or Race? Or Issues and prospects for Constructive Development and Collaboration in the USA and in the world.

Irrational biases are what we need CHANGE from.

Erik   May 10th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

As a Libertarian Party member watching from the sidelines with considerable objectivity, I cannot understand how any Democrat could choose McCain over Obama if Clinton finally drops out. Have you even READ the two party platforms? This isn't a small-town football rivalry, people.

ch   May 10th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

He needs every last one of the 13+ million votes that have gone to Hillary (over 49%).

Not going to happen -

No, he can't…..

Hillary in 2008 or 2012!…Hillary or NOBODY!

mitchell from arkansaw   May 10th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

this election is about more, than whether the next president is a woman,or the first black man.this is about our troops dying in a war ,so that republican fatcats can line their pockets with oil revenue.this election is about our civil liberties being violated daily by our own government.it's about the health care we lack,our under-performing schools,costs of tuition,how our vets are treated when they come home.high prices of consumer goods,while wages for lo income workers remains stagnant.anyone who tries to bring race or gender into this contest,at the costs of the bombardment of problems created by the present republican administration,is really not interested in solving our problems,but ,is continuing to exacerbate them.hillary's recent comments,since her loss in nc,has both racial and gender-bias overtones,and gives a clear message to democrats that she remains deeply ingrained in the washington establishment,and will resort to any means,to gain more power and wealth.

Anonymous   May 10th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

It s very important for us to remember that though women are equal to men and are just as good as or even better than men when it comes to performance women can mess things up just the same. So in this regard though it would be meaningful as a woman to see another woman in the highest office of the land, i am truely disappointed to see the woman in this campaign resort to some of the tactics taken in this campaign.

Edochie. U   May 10th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

I find this sort of partisanship quite confusing. Are pro Clinton feminists implying that they will support their candidate solely on gender basis, whether or not she is the best candidate for the job? Sounds silly to me.

Julie mn   May 10th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

CNN, I find it disgusting that move-on has a poll question on your page. they are just another hate web site, I am very dissapointed.

Beverly   May 10th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

I am a 60 year old white female, retired. I would LOVE to see a woman in the White House. But, NOT Senator Clinton. She has lied too many times and "standing by her man" made me lose whatever respect I may have accorded her in the past. I consider myself a feminist, but never vote for a candidate just because the candidate is a woman. I read about all the candidates and then pick the one I feel is best, regardless of party affiliation.

Hill's hill   May 10th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Without the Obama worship and just on the issues, Clinton would win.

But Obama mania- love for the cocky, arrogant, jeering, mocking, self-serving just- like- Bush- but -black candidate- sweeps the nation.

I did not vote for Bush- twice.

I was against the war from the start.

Clinton has my vote. I will write her in in Nov.

Hill's hill to climb   May 10th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Clinton was the one everyone loved to hate.

She was bashed and trashed.

Obama was forced fed to us.

So he has a slight lead.

What a surprise.

Matt   May 10th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

What's really offensive is that the Hillary camp (and likewise Hillary supporters and some feminists) have said "vote for Hillary because she's a woman." However, they dismiss the black vote that has gone to Obama (as it did to Bill Clinton) as simply a product of him being a black candidate, and therefore inconsequential. I'm sorry, but doesn't that stink of hypocrisy?

The feminist movement really is a subset of the civil rights movement, and the goal was not to give preferential treatment to those that have previously been discriminated against. The goal was to provide a playing field in business, politics and society as a whole in which one does not base decisions or opinions on superficial things such as color, gender, ethnicity. It is counter-productive to that cause to insist that one vote, promote, offer admission to school, or give a job to a person because of their color, gender, ethnicity, sexual preference, religion, etc. The goal is a meritocracy in which the measuring stick is one's character. This protracted primary fight has been good for us voters; it has given us a chance to see the true character of these candidates. Let's not squander this opportunity to judge the candidates not by their skin color, gender, or age, but on their merit for the position they seek.

Carol   May 10th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

The feminists movement was a movement to help women have choices.

Some women stayed home to raise their children and some chose careers.

As a woman who chose to stay home during her children's younger years, I am still personally offended ar Hillarys remark insulting us who "stay home and baked cookies and had teas".

My now adult daughter loved having tea parties and the cookies we made at ate.

Hillary is a woman who will set back the womans movement with her attitude and her ability to fit all the stereotypes we as feminists are labled with.

Hill's hill to climb   May 10th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Even women hate women.

Debby   May 10th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

So Obama picking up all these superdelegates I guess they will actually have the last say with this nomination. If Hillary were getting them it would be an uproar. This is why she should leave this back stabbing party and go Independent. She can at least block the Dems. from winning and they deserve to lose after how they treated her.

Cathi   May 10th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

To say that Obama has no respect for women would be saying that he has no respect for his mother and grandmother. It's Hillary that shows no respect for women. She's trying to be one of the "guys" trying to appeal to the right wing with her "obliterate Iran" comment.

BJ   May 10th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Hillary has been the most extraordinary candidate the democrats will never deserve!

From the very first primaries, she has had to battle the press/media, pundits, the Obama bait and switch machine, and the politicians and democratic party itself! Aside from the obvious (Obama campaign), all of the others should have been unbiased towards any candidate, but instead they have pounded her, criticized, spun words and events to make her look bad, used the race card… you name it, they have done it! They have even had the audacity to label her the most hated candidate! The media and press started this! Now, you read hate spewed all over the blogs by Obama supporters, because they picked up where the press left off!

They don't report that he has only won 1 State in the last 3 primaries, and touts his lead in NC, while I imagine they will spin a WV win into nothing, where she leads by 20 points or more.

They have asked her to step down, they have already crowned Obama… AND YET, the polls show that she is the candidate that can win vs. McCain!

They talk about the "race" card, but they won't admit to playing the gender card. Politicos just can't stand to see an intelligent, brave, tough & tenacious woman who has a better grasp of issues and solutions, over a man who has pretty much "xeroxed" her issues and solutions! They cannot admit that had Obama's campaign not played the race card, she could've have won more Black votes!

Meanwhile, Obama only has the Black/elitist/college kid votes, and just can't seem to overcome this. Hillary has the Asian/Hispanic/Catholic/white-blue collar/women votes! OBJECTIVELY, which of them appears to have the votes that can win in November?

The Democratic Party does not deserve her, and her supporters, men who have no issues over their machismo, and women alike will urge her to go INDEPENDENT and see her to victory in November!

Mich   May 10th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

in August, 2006 Sen Obama visited Kenya to campaign for Odinga, a radical muslim leader….. Can he give any answer, why ?

Obama   May 10th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Obama is sexier is why.

Won't make a good president… but who cares?

We like our rock star pop idols in America.

Frank   May 10th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

I started out supporting Hillary, but as time went on Hillary evolved into this political monster and "one of the boys", as evident in times as recent as the Indiana primary when she had a local senator on the stage with her. It became evident Hillary just wants to win at any cost, it became about Hillary and the Clinton brand and the American public saw through it. Surely this fact was not lost on some of the feminists supporting Obama.

How dare anyone insinuate that there will be no other woman qualified enough in a long time when frankly there are many qualified today (even if they chose not to run for office). On behalf of my daughter and female siblings I take offence to any such insinuations. Hillary should bow out gracefully for the sake of the party and feminists everywhere, because frankly she's becoming an object of ridicule, for chauvinists everywhere to point at as an example of a female candidate.

Peter Kavanagh   May 10th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

If she is selected as the VP the Dem's will lose . The VP needs to come from a swing state like Virgina or Kansas .

The VP should also be some one who has said on Camera again and again that he is not qualified to be commander in Chief , besides how would Sen Obama control Bill ?

I think there will be a female President in the next 10 - 15 yrs and that she is probably campaigning for Sen. Obama right now .

Obama 08 !!!

YES WE CAN !!!

Dara   May 10th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Hmmm, I wonder how Obama's campaign would take it if 92% of white women supported Hillary. Would that be considered racist feminism? The double standard during this election is sickening.

Obama's background is JUST NOW coming to light, Wright, Ayer, and Rezco are small fries compared to what this man has been involved in. The media has failed MISERABLE concerning this mans background. When the public is made aware (by the GOP) of the Chicago crooks Obama has surrounded himself (and raised the majority of his funding from), the only outrage left is that the DNC pushed the VERY deceitful Obama to the top JUST to keep Clinton down. Out of all the African Americans that could have represented our country and ALL of people - they chose Obama? VERY bad decision. Obama fans will be forced to accept their own bad decisions of not doing any research - then they'll just blame Clinton. The fan fair will soon be over….

marcelo   May 10th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Has anyone mentioned to Hillary that Bill won the presidency in 1992 with 39 percent of the white vote and 83 percent of the black vote and 61 percent of the Hispanic vote and besting the first President Bush and Ross Perot among all age groups?

I'm all for allowing Sen. Clinton to run her campaign to the convention but if she continues to argue that Obama can't win white votes because he's Black and thats why SHE should be president, then I will have lost all respect for her as a presidential candidate. But that's not the case.

These hard-working white voters are just that. They work long and hard for their families and they don't have the time or luxury to really look up the issues and facts about a candidate… and the only time they hear about the candidates are when Jeremiah Wright broke loose, false whispered accusations that Barack is a Muslim and is "Anti-American". So, when they hear a Clinton is running against this "Obama Fellow," then they naturally support Hillary Clinton…. Because they would rather vote for a known quantity rather than an unknown…. But if they would only give Obama a chance to be heard for his ideas and values, this wouldn't be an issue.

Clinton help Obama overcome this obstacle if is willing to truly help the democratic nominee when the contest is over. The ball is her court now. I HOPE she makes a selfless decision.

Hillary Clinton's Conscience

unfairness   May 10th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

DNC and the media and everyone smitten by a love affair with Obama gave him unearned and undeserved advantages.

Clinton still came in right behind him- with all the forces of hate and insults and handicaps to make it tougher for her.

She is the winner.

M. A.   May 10th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

I'm an American woman with a ethnic mixture of Native American, Scotch Irish, and African American which ultimately makes me a woman of color based on the American standard of who is "colored" and who is "white".

I find that Hillary has become outrageously negative over the last month and has resorted to Nixon politics which are dividing the Democratic Party and the nation. Bill offended the African American community and Obama early on, then you have types like Ed Rendell, Gov of PA, supporting Hillary who offended the African Americans of his state (which I am a resident of) and now we see Hillary herself suggesting that white people should and will only vote for her in November and based on that she is the strongest candidate to go up against McCain. I feel Hillary has lost her beaings. She proves day after day that she knows no other way than negativity and is willing to stoop as low as she can go to garner votes.

I then agree with Senator Ted Kennedy, Hillary does not have the character to be VP of the US. She's a poor loser and her continued failing campaigning has signs that she and Bill feel that they have an "entitlement" to the presidency.

I feel sorry for Hillary, she refuses to bow out graciously, but rather go down in flames and be remembered an a bitter, frustrated woman.

Andrew   May 10th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Julie, you dropped some downright trash, of course your comments arent usually posted. And since when has clinton in this entire election felt a dedication to the party? Come on.

At this point, perhaps one of the starkest differences between Obama and McCain is their stances on womens rights. Obama has been fighting his entire political career for womens rights, hes top-rated by most of the womens rights groups (that arent extremely politically motivated, anyways). McCain, on the other hand, will pack the courts with anti-abortion justices, and you will see Roe v. Wade overturned. If you've gotta cut your nose off to spite your face, go right ahead, but you're doing it to yourselves here. I dont wanna hear any complaining after the fact for your own incompetence.

Ed, FL   May 10th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Some people need to get over their bitterness. HRC got beaten fair and square, that is a fact. She knew what the rules were. Why she and her feminist supporters expect special treatment for her?.
HRC is just a sour loser who cann't get over the fact that she embarked into the race ill prepared and got beaten by an insurgent.
And her feminist suppoters also need to get over themselves.
Obama 08!!!

Sylva Smith   May 10th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

She has run an incompetent and dirty campaign. Even feminist ( and a Hispanic feminist that I am), want the most progressive candidate. I have been very turned off by Hillary's win at any and all cost.

jim   May 10th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

women need to shed the feminist ways and vote for political change,

vote for obama

best woman   May 10th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Where would Obama be now if he had to deal with all the swiftboating attacks from the media, his own party, the DNC and voters who opposed him?

Hillary dealt with ALL that and more.

Obama was given a free ride from the press, by his party, in debates the entire campaign.

He still needs superdelegates to give the nomination to him.

So, overall- She wins.

No Obama   May 10th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

You are not going to overcome, even if Obama does get the nomination. It will just divide this country more and cause more problems that we can ever imagine. Just sit back and watch people.

IF   May 10th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

It's very disappointing to see some women are supprting Hillary just because she is a woman. Women are part of a society made up of men, too. Men are NOT enemies, not more than some women are. It all comes down to individuals. And I think women can fight for their rights without isolating men, rather enlisting them.

There's no such thing as missing a chance of having a woman president (other countries have had them with mixed luck), but there is a danger of missing on a great president.

As someone wrote up there, Obama strikes me as a true "feminist". He's thoughtful and seems to answer after pondering an issue. Rather different from Hillary who will say anything she feels will bolster her candidacy at a particular moment.

Jack   May 10th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

What School did Obama go to?
.Barach Obama wants to be president of 57 states

.“It is wonderful to be back in Oregon,” Obama said. “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.”

The video below is submitted for your enjoyment. You just know that of Sen. John McCain had said this, they’d have shipped him off to a nursing home…

Jeanne   May 10th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

That may be true. It's true that it would be very nice to have a woman win the presidency. I don't believe that woman is Hillary Clinton, at least not this time around. I'd like the first woman president to have gotten their by her own merits and not by riding the coattails of her husband. Senator Diane Feinstein would be a good choice. There are talented women out there that would be good for this post. I believe the day is coming, and not too far in the distant future, when a woman will win the presidency and the USA will certainly be the better for it.

Charlotte   May 10th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Feminist who are for Obama are not feminist at all. Don't call yourself one. I will write in Hillary unless she choses to run as an independent. We would have, for the first time in my adult life, a qualified third party candidate…

Jawborne   May 10th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Women all over the world should be happy for the tenacious effort HRC has made in this election. It couldn't be any better……..let them believe and hope as Barack Obama says that the future is still bright and that there are more better days and things ahead. *he that laughs last, laughs the best*.

From the conclave.

Mauo   May 10th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Hillary better not take the VP offer from the Obama camp. She can run in 2012 cause McCain will be a one term president.

Tina   May 10th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Equal rights for women means we have the right to be judged on our merits, not our gender.

Those who say all women should vote for Hillary because she is a woman are setting back the cause of women's rights. No one should vote against Hillary because she is a woman, and no one should vote FOR Hillary because she is a woman. People should vote for Hillary only based upon her merits as a candidate.

To do otherwise is an affront to the women's movement.

41- year-old White Professional Woman for Obama 08

mozartt   May 10th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

This is to Sharon in Minnesota - do you read the newspapers? do you liston to the televsion? Are you actually following this race? You write that Senator Obama has no respect for Hillary Clinton - come on!! Listen to what he has to say - in fact, its the reverse. He has no respect for white folk you suggest - this may come as a shock to you, but he is one of them - at least 50/50. His mother is white. His whole message is about being inclusive to all Americans. Senator Clinton suggesed that he can't attract 'white folks". If that ins't racist, I don't know what is.

Is it possible Sharon, that you don't like him because he's black. Well, I've got news for you, get used to it - because he will be the next President of the United States and you will find that the colour of his skin is irrelevant - its his vision for this country and his brilliant mind and his statesmanship that will return American to its rightful place as a world leader!

Oh and by the way I'm a white feminist female!

Maritza Hernandez   May 10th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

I am all for a woman president; however, Mrs. Clinton insulting the true soldiers of war with the Bosnia story has totally turned my family off. My husband is a Viet Nam veteran and deaf due to the real war-fire he underwent so we have taken Mrs. Clinton’s false story to heart and have supported Mr. Obama from day one because we knew that Mrs. Clinton would say anything to win. When the right woman runs for president, we will support her.

kenny cole   May 10th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Is good to have a woman PRESIDENT but HILLARY is not the person,she's a disgrace

Celeste   May 10th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

My fellow Dems — how amazing is it that we would get two remarkable history making candidates at the same time.
As much as we love Hillary, we all must admit that Obama and his team did the better job. Hillary lost not because she was a woman, but because she used the old ways of winning and times had changed before our eyes.

She thought she would win big on Feb. 5th and failed to plan for the 12 following states. She depended on raising money from the fat cats and corporations and Obama used a new internet strategy, which may in turn change politics forever, thus he won.

We cannot bite off our noses to spite our faces. It is time to do what we have to to keep McCain out of office or this country will be well on its way to being a third world nation for sale to the highest foreign bidder.

Ann Marie   May 10th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

Hillary is not just a woman. She is an incumbent woman. The limit on Presidential terms in the 22nd Amendment to the United States Constitution is a legal restriction that limits the number of terms a person may serve in order to prevent the potential for dictatorships and dynasties. I know she was not the President, but her husband would end up living in the White House again. Something does not feel right about that.

Jeremy   May 10th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

They shouldn't support her because she is a woman, they should support her because she is the BEST candidate.

Leave it to women to hold themselves back, just like the democratic party will blow it if they nominate Obama….. People talk about wanting equality and growth, but they are the same people that BLOW IT!

Hillary Clinton is the best candidate…. I wish the American public would educate themselves with the reality of this election.

Swannie   May 10th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

I will vote for Hillary in the general election .. I will WRITE HER IN and urge millions of others to do so ..and not because she is a woman … but because she is the absolute best cadidate and we need her …. and she has had this stolen from her the same way the presidency was stolen from Gore …
She is blamed for causing a split in the party ?? When the people who decided to eliminate two states and disenfanchise millions of voters dont carry that responsibility ???

Fmr Engineer   May 10th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

The Clinton campaign like to use a variation of the 'divide and conquer' technique - also known as the wedge technique.

1) Find a conflict between two groups in which you belong to the stronger group.

2) Discard the issues and make the conflict the main reason to vote for you. This works because people will chose the criteria that make you the best candidate. For example if the other guy has bad penmanship the electorate will select 'penmanship' as an important skill for the position.

3) Mend fences after you are in office.

The problem is that America has seen it all before AND it did not work out very well. For anything to be done there has to be some unity AFTER the election.

No Reservations   May 10th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Ex-democrat — without Hillary I'm voting McCain! Go McCain!!!

that is why   May 10th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

That is why there will never be a woman in the white house.

African Americans are not divided over Obama- even though he is the weaker candidate.

Women can't even support the best democratic candidate in a decade.

Go figure.

Darcy   May 10th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

There is nothing wrong with a woman becoming president, it is just this woman (Hilliary) that I object to. It would be the same old Washington politics that got us into this mess, world wide disrespect. Bill Clinton, the experienced one is not running and if he were my vote would still go to Obama. Obama has shown the ability to run a clean campaign with financial responsibility and integrity. AND He is on the right side of all the issues with workable plans.

Susie   May 10th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Little boys are taught to play as a team; little girls are taught to compete for the man. It is so sad to see that those little girls grow up and continue to compete and hate other women instead of playing on the team. Certainly, when voting for President, we need to first consider who is qualified and who can lead. If we were in any way objective, the answer would clearly be Clinton. Obama is not qualified to do her laundry. Yet, some intelligent women cannot see the forest for the trees. Obama inspires hatred and animosity. I don't know why people do not see that.

A.M. Saqib   May 10th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Another fact finally the suppor to 'Obama' is coming from where she thought she will get 99%, just because she is a woman. She said this just few days ago, playing on race card, and playing on gender.

Come on… be brave and bow down gracefully and work on exit strategy 'Hillary', we do care and we like 'Clintons' a lot.

But obvious is obvious, please do not hurt our party and our chances in November.

A.M. Saqib
Houston, Texas

Tony, Miami   May 10th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Last time I checked some articles relative to Hillary's campaign I read about "fortitude, cojones…" so I don't know why people are debating so hard about a woman.

own worst enemy   May 10th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

That makes women be their own worst enemy.

Can't even seize a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity with one of the absolutely best possible candidates out there…who well, just happens to be a woman.

Oh sorry day.

enemy   May 10th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Women are so used to being screwed over- that now they just do it to themselves.

That's progress?

HillBilly   May 10th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Ok Yee Haa W. Virginny. Vote for the lil white Gal Hillary. Yall know that she played with lumps o coal instead of dolls when she was a young un? Yep. And Hillery will make all cars run on coal when she is Presydent. Yessiry Doggy!

skylark   May 10th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

2 words
Penis Envy

Wendy   May 10th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

I can no longer support the Democrats, they have treated their first viable woman candidate very poorly and do not deserve to lead this country in the White House, Senate or the House. They have squandered the opportunity the American people gave them to show that they can lead with dignity.

This election should not be about spewing hatred just because you can hide behind a keyboard or because you get paid to blog or appear on cable TV . Is this is the type of people that the Democrats are going to bring change to Washington with?

I voted for, worked for and supported financially, Obama, but I can no long tolerate the bashing that my fellow supporters continue to engage in. They have lost sight of who the opponent is, they have been sucked into the cesspool of hatred.

tom   May 10th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Hillary, run as an Independent. Stupendous Idea. That way you can erode any good will and financial support you have in the party, destroy any chance of a future election, lose all of your Senatorial clout as well as any chance of committee leadership, and in the process lose by enormous margins.

To the people suggesting this, grow up. Hillary couldn't raise enough money as the initial favorite to prosecute a primary run. How do you think she's going to finance a run for President?

Venus   May 10th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

To poster: jw nyc

Considering how nasty Hillary has been to Obama - saying that he can't win, he can't get elected, no whites will vote for him and now that he is ahead of her by more votes, states and now Superdelegates, have ran a much better campaign, plus he still have million of dollars, and now he is supposed to offer her VP…???

Why should Hillary be VP on Obama's hard work? The real truth is that Hillary doesn't want to be VP on Obama's ticket! She want him to be VP!

I would love to see Obama select a woman for VP! And, who knows - maybe he will and it will be who he selects!

Sure - I would love to see and support a woman for president or vice president - one day. I want to see a woman who will have grace and unite people, and wear a dress some times and some one who will walk and talk, and act like a woman!

Hillary is not fit to step foot back into the White House! As a matter of fact - the Clintons had their time in the White House and our History - and spent much of their time regarding Monica and his impeachment, selling Americans jobs for huge profits, taking money to block health-care, and making huge profits from many of the big lenders!

When I vote for a woman for president - I won't be voting for a woman movement!

Go Obama and select the VP you want!

km   May 10th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

As an older white woman, I was really rooting for Hillary in the beginning. I have been saying for years a woman in the white house would straighten things out. But I have turned away from Hillary because she is not the right woman to go first. She would set us back decades with her devisiveness and self serving attitude. I would rather wait for a woman who is more like the rest of us. Giving, common sense, intelligent without being pushy and warm hearted.

EC   May 10th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

It would just be like Hillary Clinton to pit women against women to promote more political divisiveness and chaos.

This seems to be her DNA more and more. She's now resorted to playing both the RACE card and the GENDER card to bring devastation in the Democratic Party because that's WHAT she does. Everyone keeps giving her the benefit of the doubt, BUT she just doesn't know when enough is enough and always ends up self imploding. Her recent statement is USA Today is clearly proving her intent at racial baiting at all costs.

Women are given an "ultimatum" by Sen. Clinton. I myself don't take too kindly to being heavy armed by another woman for political game. I don't care WHO you are or THINK you are.

Sen. Clinton turned me off by using these types of "old political Washington" tactics. It speaks to her lack of integrity on all levels. I'm a well educated woman, and even if I wasn't well educated I KNOW RIGHT from WRONG. YOU don't force people into voting for you!!!

Like my ancestors use to always say…. "There's a right way about doing things and a wrong way, it's always easy to do WRONG, but RIGHT is always more character valued".

too bad   May 10th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

Divide and conquer- that is how it will always be.

If ONLY women had supported Hillary Clinton.

It is not as if she was not an awesome candidate with wonderful ideas.

Yes to a woman, no to this woman   May 10th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Hillary Clinton plays her various supporters like violins, with the skill of the slick politician that she is (not to mention Bill). Having failed to impress with endless, detailed policies and promises, which have changed month to month to fit the needs of the speech or group, she turned to negativity, which, although it will not win her the nomination, has a disturbing number of people parroting back all the fearful, negative smears about Obama. Many of these people are refusing to vote for their own party's candidate, and they seem to actually believe the Clinton propaganda that Obama has run a negative, racist campaign! This is not the woman we need to be president!

Sheila Wa   May 10th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

The women's movement will be history if Sen McCain is elected. He has already promised to pack the courts with extreme conservative judges who will overturn Roe v Wade and god only knows what will be next. This mindset that if Hillary doesn't get the nomination, I'll vote for McCain, will set the women's movement back decades if not forever. The Labor movement, the women's movement, and the civil rights movement had all been ideas of the populist movement which became the Dem party we know of today. Vote for a Republican out of spite, it will all be for nothing..This is for the Dems to win in Nov..

sheep   May 10th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Its ok to vote for a women because shes a women ,,but its unacceptable for a african american to vote african american ? how long has our society said its acceptable to be our president if your white ,,women or man ? but for a black man to win the office is beyond what our society finds acceptable. In fact on here clintons supporters would rather send there sons and daughters to war and be killed then vote for a african american man ..Cindy MCCAIN stole drugs from her nonprofit charity ,,didnt spend 1 day in jail,,,rich elitost? Can you imagine a poor women let alone MICHELE OBAMA had done this ,,she would be crucified by the media ,,and not 1 of you feminist would have stood up for her.. You pick and choose your cause ..I didnt hear you shouting unfair for the statement taken out of context that MRS. OBAMA spoke…And by the way i think its a very valuable (cause to stay home and bake cookies) On here they state if a african american is president what is he makes most of his cabinet fellow african american ??well crap when they voted for years for a white man they didnt

mike   May 10th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

All you frustrated Hillary supporters out there that are whining about Hillary's loss and trying to smear Obama are forgetting one thing. It is HILLARY's fault that she is losing. She mismanaged her campaign, was overconfident and underestimated Obama's abilities. Had she run a smarter campaign, she probably would be winning because she had so much in her favor at the start. Don't blame the media. Don't blame Obama. Don't blame Florida and Michigan. Take responsibiility for your candidate. Read about her campaign and how miserably they have run their effort. Give some credit to Obama's organization. Black vote alone would never be enough for Obama to win and female votes alone are not enough for Hillary. It is time to face the fact that Obbama will likely prevail and it is more important to support the democratic candidate than anything else.

best one   May 10th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Given how much better Clinton is for the job than Obama… you would think that women would have given her the benefit of the doubt with their vote.

km   May 10th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Feminst divided over Clinton is a funny title. Bill Clinton was the biggest womanizer in the world who threw M.L. to the wolves to protect his political career. So much for women's rights.

mwito   May 10th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Save America first and make history later. There are more qualifications for a president than just being a woman and making history. She is a dividerm not a leader that is why she is loosing. There are many women out there better than Clinton and they will come out once Obama changes the White House and the people will lead not just washington

A Female From Missouri   May 10th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

I would love to see a woman for president. One that is calm, rational, honest, exercises good judgement and does not create divisiveness. Hillary is not the one. She blew an opportunity of a lifetime and is a disappointment.

Y   May 10th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

What I dont understand is why when Hillary says she is fighting for all the women out there no one complains that she is playing the gender card. If Obama said he was fighting for all the blacks out there, he would sound crazy. Hillary is crazy to be using gender as a reason for her loss.

"uneducated bitter blue collar" American from a big state   May 10th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Whoever said Obama cannot be president without Hillary is totally out of their minds. I couldn't believe it when i read the conclusion of this article article on CNN!!! "What might West Virginia's primary mean?" CNN has always been a Clinton mouthpiece judging from past reporting, but this time, its just a blatant abuse of any journalistic integrity. CNN is slowly becoming worse than a local village gossip rag.

Surely, there has been a nomination process, Obama has run a convincing campaign and actually won by a big margin- yet here comes a "giant media outlet" telling people that the Democratic Convention rules don't mean a thing, that the people's choice is not good enough, just because a state with "90% "rural Whites" wont vote for Obama? That has got to be the most stupid biased analysis- an abuse of every single democrat who has cast a vote through the entire process. CNN is trying to rescue Hillary Clinton, a candidate who has clearly shown that she is not fit for the white house. Clinton is clearly in need of psychiatric help- as you can all see- pay close attention to her. With all her dirty campaigning, she forced away many super delegates and voters who had given her first preference. CNN should not come in now with their "Dirty Clinton Propaganda" to try get her a second spot. Obama has a totally different agenda from Clinton in many areas and having her on board is taking extra baggage that we cant afford for the November election.

Shame on you CNN, show some respect for the will of the people.

Proof White Uneducated "not for Obama"   May 10th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Sharon, read a newspaper instead of listening to Rush. You would make much more educated comments about Obama, and his beliefs. It's best if you don't know what you're talking about-not to talk, or in this case, blog.

Sincerly,
White and Educated for Obama

kevin from alaska   May 10th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

To me it seems tragic that the only viable woman candidate in this country's history had to be married to a former President.

Mama G.   May 10th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

There is no way Hillary could be the V.P. because when she start talking down to Michelle and disrespecting her, there will be a beat down. Also if Hillary get back into the White House she will do her best to try and get Mr. Obama impeached so she can become President. I don't think anyone has thought of this one.

Xango 4 Obama08   May 10th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

I am ready for any woman but not this woman_ she uses divisoin, inserts hatred, and uses lies big time………..

mary cleveland, ohio   May 10th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

I am a woman of the 1960's who is very, very pro women's rights, and feel the lack of appreciation for this long fought movement could be counterproductive for young women, who don't truly understand how things were (and still are in many instances) unequal for women.

Oh yes, here comes the but! Hillary Clinton is not, in my estimation, the right woman to represent us as President of the United States. She is disingenuous and lacks honest character. I don't believe she is in the game to help anyone except herself. The end.

SHERRY WV   May 10th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

It sickens me to see these comments slamming Michelle Obama, most of you posters here could not hold a candle to her. Am I hearing some fear from an obviously very strong black WOMAN? Get a grip -
or Poligrip and go vote for John McCain.

Go Hill   May 10th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is clearly the best candidate.

Unfortunately people love to bash and trash her.

So the advantage went to Obama.

But he can't seal the deal anyway, without the Superdelegates.

marcelo   May 10th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

I can't believe how BITTER everyone is on these comments.

Please, for people voting based on RACE or GENDER, do us all a favor and stop and think.

The whole reason Women and Minorities feel disenfranchised is because someone believed a wrongly believe that white man was genetically superior to either group, and so they voted for them. This is not to say that white men are the enemy, because there are many great white male leaders that have helped our country.

But if you base your vote for a candidate soley on their RACE or GENDER, then you are only committing the same injustice to another person. So, for those of you voting for Barack because he's black, you're committing a racist act. And for those voting for Hillary because she's a woman, you're committing a sexist act.

Two wrongs don't make a right people.

VOTE BASED ON THE ISSUES NOT RACE OR GENDER '08

Dara lies   May 10th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Dara, got proof? Diddnt think so. Yiou have nothing and your candidate Hill-Billary s a loser. What does it feel like to be a loser? Just curious

i copied this from K   May 10th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Hillary should run as an Independent. Her own party has betrayed her with idiotic rules such as don't count FL and Michigan even though we want their vote in November. Allocate delegates instead of use a normal winner take all approach that causes no problems. Use undemocratic caucuses where the average working American with a life doesn't have time to sit and scream about politics all day. Howard Dean is a joke and the DNC is the reason we will lose in November. Hillary run as Independent and you will most likely win.

Dana in Maryland   May 10th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

HIllary Clinton is by no means the most accomplished woman in this country or the most qualified to be president. The reason she can't get the backing of all women voters is because some require that she be the best candidate, not just a woman. I feel completely confident that we will have more and better women running for that office in the near future. If anything, I think Obama may have opened that door more than Hillary because he has shown that you don't have to play the Good Old Boy's game to get ahead in politics. You do have to reach the people. I am sure there are plenty of smart charismatic women that can do that. I'm not interested in a "Rocky" of either sex in the White House.

the general   May 10th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

all the women in the world need to ask themselves, why is it that hillary stayed with bill all these years with him cheating on her. Think about it, it was all political. she knows if she lift him it would make their name weaker. for one they hold strength together and if that broke up they would be all over with. I would love to see a woman president some day, but think about what