May 10th, 2008
11:18 AM ET
7 years ago

What might West Virginia's primary mean?

Sen. Hillary Clinton campaigns in West Virginia.
Sen. Hillary Clinton campaigns in West Virginia.

CHARLESTON, West Virginia (CNN) - West Virginians will head to the polls Tuesday for the state's Democratic primary between Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. But what will the vote there really mean after new delegate totals show Obama with a sizable lead?

Some say it could send a sobering message to Obama's Democratic supporters.

West Virginia is expected to go for Clinton big time - and the polls show it.

Clinton has a 43-point advantage over Obama, 66 percent to 23 percent, according to a survey from the American Research Group released Friday.

The poll was conducted after Tuesday's primary results and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

"This state is really Hillary Clinton's wheelhouse. It's an older population, socially conservative, blue-collar workers," said Kennie Bass, a political reporter for WCHS in West Virginia.

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  1. Jay in ATL

    Hilaary Please drop out of the race, I supported you and hey; you win some, you lose some. There is always 2012 and you need to preserve what decency you have left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 10, 2008 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  2. ransom

    Why such hatred against Mrs. Clinton from people who claim to be staunch Democrats? You are handing the presidency to McCain with this kind of vitriol. And, it seems to me that those ridiculing West Virginians as uneducated, red-necked illiterates should consider leaving the Democratic Party and aligning themselves with another.

    May 10, 2008 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  3. Th3rdpwr

    Oh, for crying out loud! If I have to endure talk of another "critical" state that Senator Obama HAS to capture to win the presidency, I'm going to puke. W.Va. reflects a very specific type of voter concentrated in this particular state. They're no more important than any other demographic in winning the national election. Consequently, W. Va. isn't important specifically, just its type of voters; a demographic which is located throughout numerous areas in this country, along with many other necessary American voters..

    May 10, 2008 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  4. John Z.

    Sobering message, you bet! Recently Gallop revealed through its polling that Obama has the support of the same coalition of voters, namely, African-Americans and liberal intellectuals, that John Kerry had but lacks the support of white, blue-collar workers. If Kerry couldn't make that coalition work for him four years ago, why does Obama think that it will work for him now? It would be better to go with Clinton who has a broader base of support. But the Democrats aren't very smart, are they?

    May 10, 2008 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  5. Ian

    It means the same as a last place team winning games in the last weekend of the baseball season. Moral victory, sure, but in the long run it doesn't mean much.

    May 10, 2008 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  6. Gringo

    Good for Hillary. I've disliked her for 20 years, but compared to Mr. Empty Suit, she looks like Churchill.
    All you Obamaistas will wonder what hit you in November. Knowing all the words to Kumbaya isn't gonna cut it in November. Dems are going to shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN !!

    Can you say McGovern.

    May 10, 2008 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  7. JFH

    There seems to be a true irony that now a faction of the Democratic party has taken a page out of the Bush playbook, stop counting votes once your guy is ahead. Is Katherine Harris working for Obama???

    Take it to Denver!!! Hillary '08!!

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  8. K in TX

    It will send a sobering message to Obama supporters that attacking Hillary and her supporters only divides us further and ensures a McCain victory in November. She has the right to continue her campaign so stop your hateful attacks or pay the consequences.

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  9. Eric

    The idea of so many whites voting for Hillary Clinton is astonishing for so many reason. One, Barrack Obama has so much in common with the people of some the states. Barrack Obama was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Two, African American voted for Bill Clinton, Al gore, John Kerry without regards to whiteness. Third, black has never had a black successful candidate for president like Barrack so of course they going to vote for him higher numbers.

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  10. Lana, California

    Like polls are always accurate anyway. I'll believe the 43% IF it happens. Besides, this was always a given for Clinton since before this thing started, just like NC was a given for Obama many months ago too. Plus, unlike the people running the Clinton campaign, I give the voters in WVA more credit for their intelligence and critical thinking skills. I am sure they will realize that when Obama is the nominee, that he will carry on much of the traditional issues and concerns that Clinton ALSO addresses. I mean really my fellow Democrats – given the choice of Obama or McCain, which person (and party) will follow YOUR values and issues and act on them better? I venture a guess it is not McCain.

    The math doesn't add up to a Clinton nomination unless there is some serious political trickery and manipulation going on behind closed doors. I pray for the sake of our party, it does not come to that.

    I'm all for Clinton to have one last day in the sun and to get the respect and recognition that is hers. But, after that, let's unite around our presumptive nominee and take back the White House.

    Obama 08/12

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  11. HH

    Its over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your own news anchors said so, so you can not have it both ways.

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  12. So What

    Quoted by the most famous Vice-president Dick Cheney . " So What " . The media need to let it go . Why do you all flip-flop so much just the other day it was Obama has sealed it up . Why keep giving Hillary campaign any false hope . Obama has already said he was going to lose West Virginia by a big spread . What is there something new we need to know . It's already known West Virginia is like a little Pa . Where even before the primary begin . Gov. Rendell said he don't see people from rural town voting for a black man . Is he a Prophet ???? Obama doesn't need to worry about the rest of the primaries he needs to gear up for the Republican attack dogs in the general .

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  13. west va.& kentucky are just pep rallys

    WVA AND KENTUCKY ARE JUST PEP RALLY'S FOR THE CLINTON EGO.

    SHE NEEDS TO STEP ASIDE, UNIFY THE PARTY , AND STOP TRYING TO TEAR IT APART.

    IF SHE'S THINKING ABOUT ANY KIND OF RUN IN 2012- SHE MIGHT BE VERY WELL RUINING THOSE CHANCES AS WELL!

    STEP ASIDE GRACEFULLY SEEMS TO BE IN HILLARY CLINTONS BEST OPTION RIGHT NOW.

    AFTER ALL SHE HAS A RE-ELECTION BID COMING UP FOR HER N.Y. SENATE SEAT, AND NEW YORKERS WONT FORGEWT HOW SHE WAS SO DIVISIVE WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  14. Tim MN.

    This is just shocking that the Democratic party regardless of who else is running WILL NOT nominate a woman! The media has taking Hillary to the cleaners and all she has done her ENTIRE adult life has worked tirelessly to better her fellow citizens lives. And her track record shows this , she has no secret agenda she ACTUALLY has AN agenda and the know how to turn this country around and even though I hate this phrase she's been "thrown under the bus". If the Democrats are looking for "new blood" to liven up the party than answer me this. How old is Ted Kennedy? Robert Bryd? John Kerry? and so on and so forth.Shouldn't they start thinking about giving up their seats to "new blood" several of them should have retired 30-40 years ago LITERALLY! I'm having huge yard signs made saying "you didn't nominate Hillary;McCain 08" I am an Independant and my vote will count and after all is said and done the democrats better watch out when their seats are up for grabs because people don't like their non action and no accomplishment way of running the senate. I feel sorry for Obama letting these old guard Democrats send him to slaughter knowing he can't win against a war hero but they are going to doit only because they are too sexist to nominate a woman shame shame shame. And when obama get annilated in november they will all be pointing at Clinton saying this is her fault what a bunch of crap! Like john Kerry after bush won his second term acting like a spoiled brat well John and Ted if I recall Clinton won your state but you turned your backs on her let's see what your state thinks of you two when your seats are ready to be turned over to your "new blood" I am sure some 19 year old female college student would be a shoe in to replace either of YOU!

    May 10, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  15. Mark from Seattle

    Wow, what a biased "report"... everyone knows it means nothing if Clinton wins here. The race is over. the delegate lead is insurmountable. Obama would never pick Clinton as a running mate. He is against everything she stands for.

    May 10, 2008 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  16. CNN

    It means that CNN is biased and will not post truthful comments that are NOT pro-Obama- even if they are civil.

    Only Hillary haters are allowed to post here.

    May 10, 2008 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  17. Chief lagosboy, NJ

    Of cause she should do well in W. Virginia this is Uncle Daddy State. This is Hillary's fan base. I thought it was illegal to inbreed!

    Our President Obama 08’ & 12’

    May 10, 2008 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  18. just asking

    It means people are tired of falsely being labeled racist just because they do not think Obama is the best candidate.

    If everyone who doesn't vote for Obama is called a racist... what kind of president will he make?

    Everytime someone disagrees with him or criticizes him, that person will be called a racist.

    That is an unnecessary distraction at this time of crisis.

    We know we can call Hillary anything we want and even be ugly and vulgar about it and she still keeps on going. She is not sidetracked and offended whenever people voice a disagreement with her. That is a true leader.

    Obama thinks he is perfect and demands that everyone must agree .
    Clinton realizes she isn't perfect and goes on doing the best she can for ALL Americans.

    May 10, 2008 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  19. PCS / North Carolina

    Todd Parks wrote May 10th, 2008 11:28 am ET

    "I'm writing here because CNN closed their forum on a previous article related to West Virginia and the upcoming primary but I find it so offensive that because Hillary Clinton is up considerably in West Virginia that it means we (West Virginians) are obviously inbreed, redneck, and racist."

    Todd, appreciate your opinion, and you may be correct to some extent. Howevere, the "WHITE" "BLACK"

    May 10, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  20. Gringo

    I love all these Obama people on this board saying that if you don't vote for Obama, you are ignorant, biased and a racist. Dismissing the entire state of West Virginia on those grounds just shows how elitists you morons really are.

    May 10, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  21. JC

    To the other JC:

    "JC May 10th, 2008 11:40 am ET

    WV will never vote for a black man. That's the bottom line. Older voters are racist and everyone knows it. That's why Hillary takes them."

    That is a dangerous statement.
    Not all older voters are racists.
    Several seniors on CNN blog page are far from it.
    Let's not give more fuel to the fire.

    May 10, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  22. Michael in MO

    This is foolish. Obama cannot win the general in Nov. Do your research – not sound bite surfing. Every legitimate statistic regarding this race shows Senator Clinton the only one to beat McCain and secure the majority of States. If you do not want 4 more yrs. of a Republican presidency, than use your head and vote for Senator Clinton. She is clearly the most qualified individual – black/white/purple – that our party has seen in generations. Senator Obama is not ready – putting him up as the nominee now is throwing away our opportunity in Nov.

    I, like millions of democrats, will be forced to vote for McCain as independents in the Fall if he goes forward. We will without question make sure that he does not make it to the presidency. These are not bitter comments of the moment that will wash away over time. These are very real facts folks.

    May 10, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  23. Pam

    West Virginians are a weird bunch. They have been on the loosing end so long until they just go for the underdog as a way of life. They really don't care about elevating themselves and demonstrate that by being #48 in teacher pay. Why would we expect anymore out of the people in that state? How can they help shape a brighter future for this nation when they haven't made it happen for themselves?

    By the way, where in the world is Senator Robert Byrd? I thought he was against the war and voted against it. Why hasn't he stepped forward for Obama? That just tells you a little about the weird attitude of West Virginians.

    May 10, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  24. Handsome IN Everett, WA

    CNN is in denial about the Dem primary. Because CNN's favorite candidate is out of touch and losing they pretend as if there is a chance for her. Hilary is done long time ago. It does not matter wther she wins W. Virginia or not. CNN you should know better and let Clinton's dynasty rest in PEACE.

    Go Obama '08

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  25. Danny

    I disagree with the poll I don't think she have that much lead. So, the point is the poll and the MEDIA just try to play game with Clinton family only. I think she might have about 10 point lead. If Hillary win in WV can
    any body call Obama to drop out? because she won 4 of 5 state and 1 draw after WI. I think the MEDIA don't need to hate Clinton family like that.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
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