May 10th, 2008
11:18 AM ET
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What might West Virginia's primary mean?

Sen. Hillary Clinton campaigns in West Virginia.

Sen. Hillary Clinton campaigns in West Virginia.

CHARLESTON, West Virginia (CNN) - West Virginians will head to the polls Tuesday for the state's Democratic primary between Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. But what will the vote there really mean after new delegate totals show Obama with a sizable lead?

Some say it could send a sobering message to Obama's Democratic supporters.

West Virginia is expected to go for Clinton big time - and the polls show it.

Clinton has a 43-point advantage over Obama, 66 percent to 23 percent, according to a survey from the American Research Group released Friday.

The poll was conducted after Tuesday's primary results and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

"This state is really Hillary Clinton's wheelhouse. It's an older population, socially conservative, blue-collar workers," said Kennie Bass, a political reporter for WCHS in West Virginia.

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  1. Jim Nammack; Kentucky

    Why is it that Sen. Clinton is the only one that needs to do the math? The way things are going now, she will not have the 2025 delegte votes needed to win her party's nomination on the first ballot. But, the way things are going now, neither will Sen. Obama have the 2025 delegate votes needed to win his party's nomination on the first ballot. So why doesn't CNN and the rest of the media hop all over Obama and ask why is he still running, what is his exit strategy, why can't he do the math, and so forth and so on?

    CNN seems to think that it is a case of the candidate with the most votes winning the Democratic nomination. Totally wrong. It is a case of the candidate with 2025 delegate votes winning the Democratic nomination. That will not happen on the first vote taken at the convention. After that first vote, in which neither candidate wins, the pledged delegates become unpledged and can vote for whomever they please. And they will. It will become a free-for-all. With her expected big wins in West Virginia and Kentucky, Clinton will have a good chance at winning more total votes among the general public than Obama, and she will try to use that to sway delegates to vote for her on the 2nd and 3rd ballots. If, after a few convention votes take place and neither candidate has gone over the top with the required 2025 delegate votes, the delegates will start considering compromise canditates, such as Al Gore.

    Don't expect to learn any of this by watching CNN.

    May 10, 2008 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
  2. Kevin M

    WV & KY will offer Hillary an opportunity to exit on a high note. Hillary and the media will magnify the significance of 4 ECV in the fall to overwhelming significance. Hillary will have a week to argue that she is more electable. Obama will likely have a majority of the pledged delegates after Oregon and will continue to campaign against McCain until the superdelegates put him over the top by June 6th at the latest.

    May 10, 2008 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
  3. Brian from Iowa

    A friend of mine - an Obama supporter, nonetheless - told me in the kitchen we work in last night that the "...[fanatical] supporters are beginning to show themselves for the general election."

    Indeed. Post-partisan politics, I think not.

    Let the PEOPLE have their votes counted: do NOT force a viable candidate from the race until every voice has been heard!!!

    May 10, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  4. super irony

    It means that Obama can not seal the deal with the people so the superdelegates must decide who the democratic party nominee is.

    The superdelegates are the old Washington Insiders that Obama rants against. They are responsible for the broken Washington.

    Ironically Obama must now appeal to the old Washington insiders who broke Washinton, in order to secure himself the nomination.

    How sad for the candidate of change.

    May 10, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  5. Kirk

    Can Obama Handle The Stress ?

    Obama 57 state strategy:
    Whoops, Obama in Oregon today:

    It is wonderful to be back in Oregon," Obama said. "Over the last 15 months, we"ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I"ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."

    The Times' conscientious Robin Abcarian thought she heard something different there. She checked her tape recorder. It had captured what he had actually said - 57 states now.

    He even paused before he said "57" as if he was thinking about the number

    Wow this is funnier than any Bush fowl-ups

    Hillary 2008 , Ready To Lead On Day One

    May 10, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  6. Dinah

    Its a tragic end to the Clintons..
    They're trying to end this in a higher note by winning big.
    So,a 46-year-old, 1st term Black senator could topple the clinton dynasty...
    Do we need any more proof
    about his ability to make WORLD a better place for all??

    May 10, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  7. Dems2008

    Not much... WV will probably go to the republicans if thy don't get concrete solutions to their poblems. They don't need to be pandered to or scared into thinking Clinton is the ONLY answer to their problems.

    May 10, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  8. David, Paducah, Kentucky

    A win in West Virginia, regardless of the margin means absolutely nothing. The overall spread is too great and its too late in the primary season. The States demographics are custom made for her, just like some of the other States were custom made for Obama. The primaries in all of those States refelcted that.

    May 10, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |

    Hillary could win 200% of the vote in West Virginia's primary and she still wouldn't win the nomination.

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  10. walrusk1

    Who cares? This race is done.

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  11. Alex in MA

    What might WV primary mean?


    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  12. LINDA,FL

    It does not mean more , than MS and WA for example.
    Please, add those to Your picture to make it complete.

    CNN, It is not a fair in this article.
    And that makes people upset.

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  13. Fred

    Oregon will make up the differance for Obama. We have been right on picking the Presedent. And believe me we didnt vote for Bush. 1st or 2nd term. What a bad pick that was . Any body that voted for him should blame them selfs for the way this country has gone.

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  14. JerzyMD

    It means she won West Virginia. Its amazing how we come up with so many spins and twists to something that is very simple, whoever has the most votes wins. It doesn't matter who has the most votes in the third quarter because at the end of the game whoever has the most points wins. END OF STORY.

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  15. Its the Math stupid!

    Lets see....
    NC Obama 65 /Clinton 50
    IN Obama34 / Clinton 38
    Total from Primaries Obama 99 / Clinton 88
    Say she gets 75% popular vote in beautiful WV
    WV Obama7 / Clinton 21

    Here's the REAL message

    Today Obama 1861 / Clinton 1698, currently at a 163 deficit with only 217 delegates to go, which will always be split....something to think about while discussing messages

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  16. Mich


    Its all decided now that RACE played a big role, and Obama was beneficiary of it.

    He is winning superdelegates from all over the muslim world, his distant cousins. Dems aer hell bound seeing Rezko and Wright in White Hosue dining with OhBama.

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  17. BV

    West Virginia? 28 Delegates? Demographics that overwhelmingly favor Clinton?
    Wow, what significance. If WV is such a big deal, why wasn't Mississippi a big deal?
    Mississippi has slightly more delegates and demographics that HEAVILY favored Obama. Nobody questioned Hillary's ability to 'win the black vote' in the general election after Mississippi. Double standard much?
    Quit trying to add significance to any remaining state primaries. The math hasn't changed since March. I know you media types are aching for this endless Christmas present to keep on giving, but its just getting silly.
    OBAMA is the Nominee. Sorry, true story.

    May 10, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  18. Marty

    It means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Obama is the nominee. I know CNN favors Hillary, but it's time for you – and especially Hillary shill Wolf Blitzer – to let her go.

    Obama 08

    May 10, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  19. Amy

    Hillary has shown more interest in West Virginia than Obama. She has been making stops in this state since last summer. I have yet to see Obama come to WV.

    May 10, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  20. Bobby tray

    It doesn't say a thing as it was expected. . . Only the media is going to make a big deal about it. Talk about creating news.

    May 10, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  21. Hal

    It is my sincere hope that the people of W. Virginia do not live up to the stereotypes of them put forth by the media but I would not be surprised if in a two person race between a OMG "black" man and a white lady that the results are out of line with the rest of the civilized world.

    The oldest, whitest and most poorly educated state in the Union. Hmmmmmmmm I wonder why Hillary will win there. It is not like they will vote for the Dems in the general election anyway. So this is hardly a bell-weather state for the DNC to be looking at.

    May 10, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  22. Hamilton, Kansas City

    It will show that even with all of the lies, double-talk, smearing, and pandering that there are still many racists in this country who would vote for Hilary over Barack Obama.

    May 10, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  23. Chas

    The results from West Virginia will be irrelevant. Obama has already locked up the nomination, and we already know that he doesn't do well among supporters of Sen. Clinton. But Obama could put other states in play (e.g. Colorado) that normally vote Republican, and he's also attracted many new voters. He may not win the election, but I think it's time that Democrats tried a different strategy and gave up trying to out-Republican the Republicans.

    May 10, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  24. Kelvin

    It will mean absolutely nothing, just delaying the inevitable.

    Obama 08'

    May 10, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  25. isn't it ironic

    Obama the man of change... who speaks of a broken washington... and of the old washington insiders who broke it- must NOW ask those old washington insiders to GIVE him the democratic nomination.

    Ted Kennedy and the superdelegates are nothing but old washington insiders. Now they will vote and select the party nominee- NOT the people.

    Obama should be shunning and denouncing them- instead he is courting them. What a hypocritical liar.

    May 10, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
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