May 11th, 2008
01:59 PM ET
6 years ago

Sunday Roundup: End of the road for Clinton?

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(CNN) - This week’s Democratic primaries in North Carolina and Indiana brought disappointing results for the Clinton campaign. Senator Barack Obama handily won North Carolina by 14 points. While Senator Hillary Clinton edged out a win in Indiana, it was by just two points. Many political observers expected she would win handily.

After Tuesday’s results, several more superdelegates publicly endorsed Obama. Others have switched their vote from Clinton to the Illinois senator, including former senator and presidential nominee George McGovern.

With all these events in mind, the question of the week remains: Does Hillary Clinton have a chance to win the nomination, and if not, why hasn’t she dropped out? The Sunday morning circuit digs deep to find answers.

(Full roundup after the jump)

On CBS’ “Face the Nation”, former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards stopped short of calling for Sen. Clinton to drop out of the race, but told host Bob Schieffer “The math is very, very hard for her.” He contrasted his own decision to bow out of the race, explaining that he thought “if I got out of the race, it would accelerate the process of one person pulling away. Well, I was obviously dead wrong about that.”

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid stopped by ABC’s “This Week” to discuss the race to the White House. He defended Clinton staying in the race, telling ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “I think we have to play this out.” Sen. Reid (D-NV) is confident there’s plenty of time for the Democrats to finish out the primaries and campaign in the general election. “After that June 3rd date arrives, I think that Obama and Clinton will have a few days to make their case to the uncommitted delegates, and then the decision will be made, and we'll have a five-month general election.”

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Fox News Sunday” had back-to-back interviews with two top insiders of the Clinton and Obama campaigns: Clinton strategist Howard Wolfson and Obama strategist David Axelrod. “I don't think she wants to impair our chances” of winning the general election, Axelrod told Fox’s Chris Wallace. However, Axelrod maintains that “we're coming to the end of the process.” Wolfson reiterated Senator Clinton’s position that she has no intention of dropping out of the race anytime soon. “She's going to keep going until she secures the nomination or until the nomination is decided in a different direction,” Wolfson said.

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And on CNN’s “Late Edition” Maryland Rep. Chris Van Hollen, who chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, was asked if thought the race was effectively over. “Obama is clearly the frontrunner here,” Van Hollen said. “But until it's finally over, it's not over. And we'll just have to see how this plays out.” Congressman Van Hollen has declared himself neutral in this race.

soundoff (155 Responses)
  1. Gina girl

    Actually, if "Barack were wearing Hillary's shoes" in this situation and everyone was calling for him to drop out, you'd all be crying RACISM!!! You'd be screaming that the Clinton's were corruptly trying to stop his chances of winning. Why is everyone so afraid of real democracy. Why don't you want all the states to vote? Including MI and FL? hmmm, maybe because he wouldn't be winning so much if you did. To hell with democracy if it means the guy you like wins!!!

    May 11, 2008 05:18 pm at 5:18 pm |
  2. VA for OBAMA

    End of the road??? She went off the road onto a trail and now is lost in the mddle of nowhere. HAHAHAHAHA!!!

    May 11, 2008 05:18 pm at 5:18 pm |
  3. CJ

    I don't think the devil on her shoulder is going anywhere. He's been there so long, he's taken over her soul. And that's no joke.

    May 11, 2008 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  4. lamptay oriakhi

    with respect to all feasible calculations, it is practically not palpable that clinton would win.....therefore, it has become grosely unwise that she is staying in for whatever reasons she may be accumulating.....at the moment, her campaign is anti-climaxing, accruing more dept, inheriting more disrespect, embracing more unpopularity and loosing chances of brokering posible deals with obama

    May 11, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  5. Barrett

    Please, don't believe the media hype. It is not over.

    Senator Obama must win the Popular Vote! Senator Clinton certainly is trying to do so. She thinks it could win her the nomination. She might be right. If Clinton wins the popular vote, there will certainly be a fight at the convention.

    A California congresswoman, Lynn Woolsey, has endorsed Senator Clinton but says she will cast her vote at the convention for the winner of the popular vote, excluding Michigan.

    West Virginia and Kentucky Democrats, your help is needed to avert an ugly dispute that could damage our chances for a Democratic victory this fall. Senator Barack Obama will win the pledged delegate race - that is a mathematical certainty. He needs to also win the popular vote to have a clear and conflict-free path to the nomination.

    Even though the total popular vote will be a skewed figure, due to the mix of primary and caucus states, it will be an important number in discussions about the nomination.

    If the perception is widespread that Obama won the delegate count but lost the popular vote, it will weaken our Democratic nominee and cause feelings of resentment among Clinton supporters.

    It is my expectation that Obama will end the primary season June 3 with a pledged delegate margin of about a hundred votes.

    Shortly thereafter, I hope the DNC, together with both campaigns, will announce they will recommend that the credentials committee seat the Florida and Michigan delegations selected at their state conventions, giving Clinton a 60 net delegate gain. Obama will continue to lead the total pledged delegate count by about 40 votes.

    I think that a few hundred superdelegates will announce their commitment to vote for Obama at the convention. Obama will be the presumptive nominee, AND Michigan and Florida will have been counted in the total.

    If the situations were reversed, and Clinton was ahead by any number of pledged delegates, she would be the nominee. To do anything else would leave her supporters feeling severely alienated and cheated. The Democrats won't do that to either side. Since Obama will almost certainly be in the lead, he will be the nominee. I hope that the Democrats can then unite around Obama, our nominee, and win in November.

    If you've concluded, as I have, that our likely nominee, Senator Barack Obama, is worthy of your vote in the fall, I urge you to consider voting for him May 13 or 20. I think it is a wise move for everyone who hopes for a Democratic victory in the fall.

    Even if Obama is not your first choice now, your vote in his column of the popular vote would be a gesture of hope for a Democratic victory in November. Doing so will help unite the Democratic Party and give us our best chance for a win in the general election.

    As a California voter in June of 1992, I cast my vote not for Jerry Brown, my governor and favorite candidate, but instead for an inexperienced, charismatic governor of a small state, Bill Clinton. It was clear that he would be the nominee, and I wanted to add my little boost to strengthen him going into the convention and the fall election.

    Thank you for your consideration.

    May 11, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  6. Marie in California

    If Obama is handed the nomination.....

    Adios Obama.....Hello McCain.

    May 11, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  7. Janey :)

    I didn't and still don't like Hillary's mudslinging tactics toward Obama during this Primary. I lost a lot of respect for her since she "misspoke" about so many things, pandered about the gas tax, changed like a chameleon into whatever she thinks will score her the big WIN. But she has done Obama a favor. He has learned how to deal with the divisiveness and conducted himself brilliantly, and shown great resiliency. He has great plans for us and we will get to roll up our sleeves, work together and start healing this country and making it a great place for all Americans. We can change the world for the better very soon!

    Go Obama '08! Yes we can, and yes we will!

    May 11, 2008 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  8. Kevin

    The end of the road for Billary happened when Obama had his 11 consecutive winning Streak. But Billary does not give up easily. An impeached and disgraced family wanting o return to the white house again. America is to blame not Billary. In many countries Hillary would not even be on the ballot.

    May 11, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
  9. Delores

    Enough already. Somebody P-L-E-A-S-E send her Packing! Out the country would be a good place to start!

    May 11, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
  10. David, Atlanta, GA

    This is some innacurate reporting:

    "Others have switched their vote from Clinton to the Illinois senator, including former senator and presidential nominee George McGovern. "

    George McGovern did not switch his vote from Hillary to Obama because George McGovern doesn't have a vote. He is not a superdelegate.

    May 11, 2008 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
  11. B.S.

    Hillary has continued her husband's policy of "win at any cost". Her positions on issues are calculated to hold on to her constituency and undermine her opponent's, regardless of what, if anything, she truly believes in. I hope to goodness we are done with her for ever...

    May 11, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  12. David P., Santa Rosa, CA

    I feel the Clinton campaign needs to communicate with the DNC and Obama campaign and evaluate the pro's and con's of continuing this race and it's effects on the Democractic party. I also think the DNC needs to conduct a national poll of Dems to find out where we Democrats stand and how we feel.

    I sense that Sen. Clintons continuance is not good, but that's just one guys gut feeling. There needs to be some empirical data collected BEFORE things get too out of hand.

    Frankly, I think the DNC needs to step up at this point, but I understand the reluctance to do so. This is a unique and difficult situation for all concerned.

    May 11, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  13. Insight

    Clinton's campaign knows well that it is still possible for her to win the nomination. Here are the facts. Fact # 1: The rule of the game is that the candidate who has the greater of the total pledged plus super delegates (not just pledged delegates) wins the nomination. Fact # 2: As of today (05/11/08), the number of uncommitted super delegates is still greater than the number of total delegates by which Obama leads Clinton, so that if, after the last primary is held in June, most of the uncommitted delegates were to commit to Clinton, she would overtake Obama in the total delegate count. Also, even super delegates who had already committed to Obama can change their minds and support Clinton. Fact # 3: The responsibility of the super delegates is not only to the electorate but also to the Democratic Party. If it is perceived by enough super delegates that nominating Obama would significantly jeopardize a Democratic win in the general election, it would be their responsibility to the party to back Clinton, even if Obama maintained his slight lead in the popular vote. I believe that, indeed, an Obama nomination would seriously jeopardize a Democratic win in the general election. Why? Sadly, my opinion is, upon conversations with many Clinton supporters and would-be Republican defectors to the Democratic side, that Obama will not get their support in the general election due to his race. The "sore loser" explanation for the recent poll of Clinton supporters (about 45% of them) who say that they will either vote for McCain or not vote at all, where the Democratic party expects that these supporters will "just get over it" by the time of the general election, does not apply with regard to a good portion of that 45% of Clinton voters. Racial prejudice is deep seated, and this segment of voters will not "just get over" that! Unless Clinton does very well in the remaining primaries and, especially, catches up in the popular vote (Florida and Michigan must be counted for the sake of the electorate, not the candidates) where such might persuade enough uncommitted super delegates to give her their support, Obama will win the nomination and McCain will be our next president. Obama will have won the battle but will have lost the war.

    May 11, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  14. Will of the People...

    Why does someone have to drop out now? Why can't we just wait until these last few states have their vote? What are Obama's people afraid is going to happen? That the voters might not vote the way they want? Give me a break. Let's just see this to the end.

    May 11, 2008 05:45 pm at 5:45 pm |
  15. John Smith

    I am so pleased that some are calling on Hillary to run as an Independent candidate. This will be the BEST for the democrats. Given the history of the Clintons, it would be great for the Clintons to stay as far away from the democratic ticket as possible. Why?

    1. The Republicans are hungry to "lay hands" on Hillary; they want their revenge. She likes to fight, the Republicans "love" to fight and the nation will have nothing done for them– product, just keep fighting!

    2. No 'fair-minded" American would want an "impeached family" to return to the White House. This is particularly the case in that the impeachment of the Clintons involved lying and sexual scandals!! So, let Hillary run as an Independent candidate; she could also go back to being a Republican. This issue is no longer about women, it is about the history of the Clintons, they destroy just about anything they touch!

    May 11, 2008 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  16. Thanh

    Hillary not continuing because the media says she should. In fact, many news outlets say she doesn't have a chance which is false. If she can push towards the convention, she'll have opportunities to expose Obama and his weaknesses. Why do you think he's refusing a 1 on 1 debate? It's because the man can't think on his feet. He doesn't have enough experience to grasp all the issues at once. Have you also noticed that most of his speeches sound "canned?" I think earlier it was revealed that he borrowed many of his lines from others.

    So many people are still so caught up in the hype that they've failed to see the big picture accurately. Even if she was just First Lady, her experience is real. She was active, and probably guided her husband's policy behind closed doors. All the people who say that experience was meaningless needs to get their head out of the sand. OK if I asked two people to do an elaborate dance move, but only showed 1 person how to do it and then just gave a verbal description to the other, who's going to perform more accurately?

    Here's the difference between the two campaigns. Obama's campaign is pushing him up. Clinton herself is actually pulling along her campaign. I think I want the person in control to be the nominee.

    May 11, 2008 05:59 pm at 5:59 pm |
  17. obama08

    i hope that her next two wins will not change this headline cause shell win by a large amount but there are only a little amount of delgates he just needs to keep up his momentum with superdelegates

    May 11, 2008 05:59 pm at 5:59 pm |
  18. mario

    Hillary Clinton president 2008 or 2012 , John MCcain 2008 if obama is nominee, democrats don be stupid , obama can not win clinton 1992 and 1996 map of states and if clinton din not win those democrats will be 30 years in oposition , dont make mcgovern mistake , vote Hillary , if obama was a little smart he will be vp now and in 2016 president but he is selfish an arogant , Hillary will cecure nomination . obamaniac stop , you ae dangerous for usa but i dont live in usa and my fear is for world becausse obama is strange thing . stop will your experiment and vote clinton , i hope if you are not smart to elect her that she will run as independent :))

    May 11, 2008 05:59 pm at 5:59 pm |
  19. John Smith

    The nature of the blogs here have confirmed my worst fear:

    "Prejudice/racial discrimination" is still prevalent in such a nation; a nation that is looked up to as a "leader." The disappointment is as deep as a "priestly" sexual abuse scandal! The sins of a nation— "Love thy neighbor as thyself"

    May 11, 2008 06:00 pm at 6:00 pm |
  20. Jason from Colorado

    I agree fully. Don't let the door (or the sniper fire) hit you butt on the way out Hillary.

    May 11, 2008 06:02 pm at 6:02 pm |
  21. To all

    Goodbye Sen. Hillary means hello President McCain...Let us see this Nov...:-)

    May 11, 2008 06:03 pm at 6:03 pm |
  22. Bubba

    Is it the end for Clinton? Yes...

    May 11, 2008 06:03 pm at 6:03 pm |
  23. obama supporter

    she lost
    she is broke (her campaign)
    she owes millions
    she is going to court in nov. for campaign fraud for year 2000

    it is so over

    May 11, 2008 06:03 pm at 6:03 pm |
  24. AJ

    I think Hillary knows exactly what she is doing. She is running for 2012 already. She doesn't want Obama to win this election, that way, she will only have another four years to try again.

    Go OBAMA

    May 11, 2008 06:05 pm at 6:05 pm |
  25. kantor

    t's just been reported that Hillary Clinton has been having an affair for the last 8 years..The clinton campaign is just now starting to put the spin on this story, but it just won't die. expect to hear about this on every news cycle by the end of the week…

    mccain 08

    May 11, 2008 06:06 pm at 6:06 pm |
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