May 12, 2008
Posted: 03:20 PM ET

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A Clinton supporter set the bar in Tuesday's vote very high.
A Clinton supporter set the bar in Tuesday's vote very high.

LOGAN, West Virginia (CNN) – Political campaigns usually look to lower expectations – but one of Hillary Clinton’s supporters took the opposite tack Monday, setting the bar for a West Virginia primary win at an unprecedented high at an enthusiastic campaign event.

“You think this crowd’s noisy?” said West Virginia Senate Majority Leader Harry Truman Chafin. “Just wait ‘til we win like 80-20.”

“We’ve got to give her a vote tomorrow of 80-20 or 90-10,” he added moments later.

A campaign spokesman quickly tried to downplay Chafin’s remaks, saying “We appreciate his exuberance, but we're pretty sure this race is going to be much closer than that.”

Polls suggest Clinton will win West Virginia very easily — recent polls have shown her beating the Illinois senator by as much as 40 percentage points.

But Chafin isn’t the only one raising expectations.

Last week President Bill Clinton told a campaign crowd that ”all this stuff you are hearing about is an attempt to discourage you. That's what this is, pure and simple, hoping, 'Well, Hillary can get 80 percent of the vote in West Virginia', and if only 100,000 people show up it is not enough. But if 600,000 people show up, and you say, 'We want a president', then you will see the earth move.

There are 28 pledged delegates in play in West Virginia Tuesday, so a victory margin of 60-80 percent would allow Barack Obama to maintain a significant part of his 172 delegate lead, though it could slow his momentum.

Clinton herself didn’t completely shy away from the expectations game, calling Tuesday’s primary “a crucial turning point in this election.” She argued that voters’ primary objective should be to choose the candidate best suited to beat John McCain in the fall.

“I wouldn’t be doing this if I didn’t believe I could be the best president for West Virginia and America and that I was the stronger candidate to take on John McCain in the fall and make sure we have a Democrat in the White House,” she said.

Obama himself seemed happy to agree with the most optimistic Clinton campaign assessments. “I think President Clinton said that they are going to get 80 percent of the vote,” he told reporters in South Charleston Monday afternoon. “We’ll take him at his word.”

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • West Virginia


Mel in Texas   May 12th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

have left so many comments that I now know CNN has me on "ignore." But this means too much to me to not say something. Obama is my candidate of choice, I can list more than five, ten or 100 things he has done for this country. Clinton- I can probably say the same, but no matter what, DEMOCRATS must win in 2008!!!!! All of you people afraid of what he looks like, and that is most of the problem, must know he won, WE have a system, he wins, then to take it AWAY???!! Come on, Hillary may have lived in the White House so she is experienced in how to navigate its layout, but come on. . Hillary HAS ZERO EXPERIENCE AS PRESIDENT, she has now even abandoned that comment but y'all keep it going. Do you want to continue as we have for four more years? How many parents must bury their kids over a war we have no clue why we are fighting, pay required insurance premiums we can not afford, watch as inflation exceeds raises, jobs get outsourced to McBush's fellow oilmen around the world? If you switch parties in November, good riddance and please do not complain when it costs $100.00 to gas up, by snacks for the week or another 100 lives are lost.
DEMOCRAT now and In General Election ‘08

Yes we can!   May 12th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

80/20, 70/30, 60/40….dont you all get it?….it wont change the mathematics for her….there is still no argument on those basis….she wont overtake him in pledge delegates which is how you win the nominee placed by the DNC…..oh i forgot the rules don't apply to the clintons……………..

ltd1974   May 12th, 2008 6:54 pm ET

McAuliffe and Hillary will say anything to pump up the crowd. Remember the super's are not risking the Dem's on some sneaky campaign. Face the fact, Obama is the man.

anthonyb   May 12th, 2008 6:54 pm ET

Has West Virginia suddenly become a "big state?"

B - New York   May 12th, 2008 6:55 pm ET

Senator Clinton is a true leader. She has not once backed down and this is who I want representing my family to the rest of the World…

Obama's only valid decision was to blacklist the Rev. Wright, the only problem was that he would have NEVER done it if the media did not pressure him… He can not make a decision to save his life so how is he going to save ours?

Can anyone PLEASE just tell us five things that Senator Obama has done for either his state or our country?

Two things?

Thought so… Big mistake people…

American living in Canada   May 12th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

It doesn't matter, Hillary. You're done. W. Virginia only has 28 delegates!!! North Carolina had much more than that and Obama didn't make as big of a deal as you with West Virginia!! Stop hurting our party and back Obama. North Carolina is one of those big states and Obama crushed you!!! He can win a big state as well.
Obama 08

James   May 12th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

Yeah yeah….whatever. WV primary is a beauty contest.

Sandra   May 12th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

Sure, she will win W. Va. but lose the nomination. Bill wanted a third term and they thought with Hillary they could bully this nomination. It didn't work.

wolfsbane   May 12th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

"A crucial turning point" to this election? Has Hillary been cribbing even more from Bush's lines?

Arizonan for Obama!   May 12th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

So what???

There are 28 delegates at stake. Let's move on.

BGIV in NC   May 12th, 2008 6:59 pm ET

Yeah - just wait, she'll still lose.

AZM   May 12th, 2008 6:59 pm ET

This will not matter to the Obamanots….
Typical little state that means nothing… they should just go home to hold onto their guns and religions…

No Bama No Way

Paul   May 12th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

Hillary 08

We need someone with experience in the White House

Hillary we are with you all the way!'

FLA and Michigan must be counted. They are part of the Union

Brad   May 12th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

Hillary and Bill have sewn the seeds of the party's destruction, just as George and John have sewn the seeds of their party's destruction.

Franky   May 12th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

No offense but if Hillary had about two weeks to compete in North Carolina and slim it down, then I truly believe 100% if my boy had about 2 weeks to prepare, then I truly believe we'll see a major difference! Only one week??? That's not enough time and go ahead Hillary, celebrate and declare victory once you win. I don't know what you should be happy about……..

NJ Mark   May 12th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

WV….Your vote is too old , too late, and too "RACIST"

Bridgette   May 12th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Mel in Texas couldn't not have said it better myself. So I won't add anything to that.

DEMOCRAT IN 2008

Belle   May 12th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

You cannot Brag about the popular vote if Clinton wins by June 3rd. Then the question will become FL and MI. A Revote would be best in MI, but Clinton WON FL fair and square.

Then Obama would NO LONGER BE AHEAD IN DELEGATES EITHER!!!!!

don   May 12th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

i think that man is a mad man i wonder why am reply or adding a comment on this.

Independent-woman-voter-for-Obama   May 12th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Well said Mel in Texas! Hillary being first lady does not constitute experience.

Here is my argument against her:

SHE VOTED FOR THE WAR WITH IRAQ AND IS JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE $10 TRILLION IN DEBT AS IS W. !

Her campaign is in debt! Can't manage a campaign how can she manage the country?

WITH ALL HER 'EXPERIENCE' AND WISDOM, SHE VOTED FOR THE WAR! Which says that HER JUDGEMENT IS IMPAIRED!

PLEASE, WV and Kentucky THINK for yourselves, don't be sheep!

California Girl   May 12th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

The sad thing is: If Hillary loses the primary, her supporters will not vote fo Obama. McCain will overwhelming beat Obama in the general election.

mwito   May 12th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

litle too late sir, you just mised the train

Ilona Proud Canadian   May 12th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

Hillary, who cares if you win 90-10? Barack has made a deliberate effort "NOT TO CAMPAIGN HEAVILY" in these remaining states, because he wants you to be in the limelight, (even if it is just for a short time) before you are trounced out of this race.

Folks, I am a little bit concerned though. It is not like Hillary to back off, I think Barack is going to have to watch his back, and his supporters should also be watching out for him. I just don't trust the Clintons!

Yoshimi Yoshida   May 12th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

Can you all see what Hillary is doing?
She is actually showing you, there are people who support Hillary as much as many of you support Obama. And you know there is, in fact there are many reasons.
I agree with Nancy Pelosi; the race shall continue, and we shall see until it reaches its own ends by right. Every body's voice shall be counted in this election, otherwise people remain frustrated for their voice unheard.
Your voice may have been heard, so you're done, but many other states like WV, OR… are yet to be heard. That is what Hillary is working hard towards.
It will be a huge mistake by Obama camp. for any speculation or too early to announce his victory - He also should SEE and HEAR the people's voice if he truly be sincere to respect the opponent and her supporters: Otherwise, unifying the Dem in Fall ends up in hypocrisy in Wshington DC. Can't you see that? Please calm down and see the results.

Scott   May 12th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Hi Dems,

Remember that a lot of repubs are either a) posing as Hillary supporters saying that Barack's supporters are rude and obnoxious and they will vote for McCain or b) posing as Barack supporters and slamming Hillary and calling her names etc.

See through it people - this is the type of stuff that divides not conquers. If you want to hear what the majority of supporters are like visit hillaryclinton.com or barackobama.com. You will find that the majority of supporters are great people on both sides, with the same everyday problems and issues.

Oh and as for CNN being biased, they just want to report controversial things because that's what gets everyone upset and frustrated, and that's when we all spew our vitriol and get the ratings up.

Don't fall for it anymore Democrats. Question everything that drives a wedge between us!

robert, new york   May 12th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Obama and supporters and DNC are about to severely pay for stealing the election from Hillary. How can he possibly win without Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and Michigan? The constant stream of uneducated, filthy spite from his supporters on this very page have alienated Clinton supporters. The Straight Shooter will, without a doubt win in a landslide and be our next president.

Tod   May 12th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

I hate to sound mean, but she needs to drop out.

Mariann Pepitone   May 12th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

What does Mel mean we are afraid of his face. Looks has nothing to do with what candidate your going to vote for. I am voting for Clinton. Mel says Clinton has no experience. Let me go on record to say Obama hasn't yet completed 4 years in the senate and has no experience whatsoever how to run this country. Clinton has had 8 years as first lady and has been to several countries. Obama claims he has knowledge of foreign policy. Taking a Pakastan vacation doesn't give you experience. Hillary met with world leaders when Bill Clinton was president. And Obama is not as smart as Bill Clinton. He has no personality is smug and arrogant. He already thinks he is the nominee and has not been nominated. No one knows what is going to happen between tomorrow and June 1st. Only god knows.

bigg dog   May 12th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

well goodbye Mrs. clinton you are still a sweet lady, although you was getting a little mean bill better wach out i,ll ask you to leave for abetter man maybe even ME…..SMILES.

Susan   May 12th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

Go Hilary! Don't let up! This is your time and I support you 100%.

Roger, SD   May 12th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

She can win 100% of West Virginia (which she won't by the way), it doesnt' matter–she lost. Wow, this lady needs meds.

Independent   May 12th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

Harry Chafin is a nut case!

GL   May 12th, 2008 7:06 pm ET

Cinderella- the clock struck midnight some time ago.. Why are you still here?

Sharon Minnesota   May 12th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Hold up on the partying people. Hillary Clinton is breathing down your neck. This race isn't over yet.

M.C.   May 12th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Hillary can win the popular vote. That's what so many supers are waiting for!!! HUGE vote tomorrow W.V.!!! You can do it W.V.!!!!!

Shelly, NV   May 12th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

On Mother's Day, her mother should have sat her down, and told her to wake up and smell the political coffee.

I really don't want a president who hasn't pumped her own gas, or paid for it, in about twenty years. She is not in touch with average people and I'm so glad she's losing.

Obama 08

Mark Rich   May 12th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Yeah right!!!!

Sandy   May 12th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

Hey, all you Obama-zoids, you seem to be under the impression that Hillary supporters are bitter because "our" candidate is losing, or because Obama is black. Wrong.

We are angry because we–as older, wiser, and more experienced citizens of this country we all love–can see that a very good candidate is being usurped by a very weak one. Barack is slick, says all the right things, is an ace with a snappy comeback, and spins like noone else. When it comes to substance, though, he comes up short.

This is why all the rhetoric–it's the only card he has to play.

Susan Missouri   May 12th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

West Virginia……..thanks for helping Clinton.

She is very experienced, for all the people, and a fighter!

Hillary!!

Hillary!!!!!!! :)

Hillary 08!

Sharon Minnesota   May 12th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

Votes vs. super delegates?
Super delegates vs. votes?
Which way will it go?
The real question is which way would Obama want it to go?
The answer is what ever way it suits him best.
Time and circumstances change his mind every few weeks.
Gotta Love The Jr. Sen. for his cleverness.

John   May 12th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

This deserves a "no comment"…

JLPR   May 12th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

Ok is this guy crazy?

I am a Hillary supporter and I would love a 90%-10% win but it is impossible I see a 60%70% win but i dont think it could go more higher than that .

Hillary 08!!!

v.ananthan   May 12th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

DEMOCRATS CAN^T JUST NOMINATE A WEAK CANDIDATE LIKE OBAMA AND EXPECT THE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR HIM IN NOVEMBER…..

THIS IS THEIR FUTURE….

Joe Reg   May 12th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

Insignificant and futile win.

You can have the all states for all we care.

Well at least this win will not be tinted like the others.

Mark   May 12th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

Why, because of the "white vote"? I'm white and there's no way I would vote for Hillary.

Maya wants to see a DEM IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!   May 12th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

Thank you "Mel in Texas" for making the most important point. WE NEED THE WHITE HOUSE BACK. All this in-fighting is just what the Repubs want from us - whoever the Dem nominee is, they have my vote in a heartbeat. come on, Dems - Obama and Clinton are much more similar that either is to McCain.

NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!! Dems in '08

Kentucky   May 12th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

The only thing she has in common with the people of West Virgina and Kentucky is, she supposedly once shot a duck. I believe it was a Loon and you know the saying, "crazy as a loon", need I say more?

mitchell from arkansaw   May 12th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

who cares.it's still not enough.hillary can have the whole state and it is not enough.the popular vote is not enough.mich.and fla.,if allowed will not be enough.enough is enough.hillary is finished.don't blame obama,either.it was her own fault.come back to arkansas,and go to church and ask forgiveness,for embellishing sniper attacks in bosnia,and politicking with lies,and pandering.

Cindy   May 12th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

Um… I admire your confidence and enthusiasm, Harry, Bill, and Hillary… honestly, I do.

mr.st.louis   May 12th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

sounds more like a klan rally or lynching than any president rally

The Lady   May 12th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

West Virgina has 28 delegates; Obama needs 150 to win Hillary needs over 300 to win, need I say more.

Candy, West Virginia   May 12th, 2008 7:12 pm ET

Like I said in earlier blogs she won't get my vote. Yeah, I will be honest the people here are backwards and I don't often wear my OBAMA 2008 shirt but trust me when I say these people wouldb't vote for a black man if he gave them each a million dollars. So what does that tell ya?????

Bitter in Conway, AR   May 12th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

You could win 100%. It doesn't matter. It's over, no matter how you look at it.

Ryan Spaulding   May 12th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

What does it mean? It means there are tons of old, white, racists living in West Virginia. THAT is what it means. (and I'm white)

Janey   May 12th, 2008 7:14 pm ET

Do not feel left out, Mel in Texas–I have been left out as well–and I am a Hillary supporter. I Am so sure of her that I still contribute to her campaign–if not now–2012.So many people blog-you have to get in on the first few minutes–Hillary is the first women to have anywhere near the qualifications to be president and she is the best! BO will be OK in a few years–but not now. Let him learn from her and take his turn. She has the will and the demographics and the fight to beat McCain–I don't believe Obama is ready, yet.

No Hillary   May 12th, 2008 7:14 pm ET

Can't wait until she calls him President Obama…. nononononoooooooooooooo… I will be mad…I want her to call him…Mr. President Barak Obama SIR….hahahahahhahaha

Darryl   May 12th, 2008 7:14 pm ET

You have to respect Harry Chafin, eventhough he is wrong.

One question for me is if Obama loses WV really bad, when he becomes President will he look out for them?

WV is losing jobs everyday there, but they want to vote for a candidate who doesn't relate to them. Her husband and her made over 100 million dollars in the past 5 years. How in the heck can she relate to small town people?

The only reason she moved to NY was to the win the senate seat, it was a political move, just like her campaign in WV now. Once she is done there, she won't even look back. She is definitely no JFK, and her husband voted for NAFTA.

annie   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Hillary outlines what she is going to do and how she is going to do it.

Obama is vague. Beware of politicians that say they are going to "give govt back to the people." It's a smoke screen for not having any real ideas. He tells you your life is bad but doesn't tell you HOW he is going to change it.

Obama will be another JIMMY CARTER!! (young voters: look him up)

Peter G   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

80% ? — 90% ? I wonder what the McBillary gang juices up on before they get their jaws flappin' ?

Ted in Chicago   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

I do wonder what it portends if HRC gets say 70% of the vote

That would be an insanely high number -

There will be no 80 and most likely no 70 either - but imagine a 2:1 win

65:35

What does that say for the General Election? And are we ready to say those who voted for her are all bigots? If so - then do we need to say the 90+% who consistently vote for Barack are also bigots?

For better or worse - the media - the libaral media and yes Fix Noise will have a major say in how the results are analysed and discussed and — say

Again - set the bar at 2:1 — if HRC does not beat BO by 2:1 or the turn out is very light - then turn out the lights

But if turn out is good (250,000? or is good 500,000?) and HRC does have over 100,000 more popular votes — What is next?

I imagine a joint ticket? For we DEMS do want the WH - do we not? And Adlai Stevenson was a great American and lost three times and no DEM who did not get the Working White vote has won an election in a lot of years (see back to Carter and Clinton - surrounded by a lot of Reps who won against some good people like Gore and Kerry etc)

Deb, IN   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Super Delegates must be blind because Obama can not win in November.

Jeanne   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Maybe West Virginia will wake up tomorrow and decide to vote for change instead of the same old story in Washington. One can only hope.

Mildred   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Obama will not be the next President period.

Barack Supporter   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

She can win 100% of West Virginia, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico and she still looses!

Barack has set the bar in such a way that she can win those primarys and will still win over superdelegates.

Needless to say, she has isolated her self in a manor that the super delegates will not go for her due to her racist remarks and and bent on distroying the party for the sake of her nominee.

She can never win because she ran a horrible campaign and it is her fault and only her fault.

WeLuvObama   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Hillary and Bill Clinton are soooooooooooooooo selfish. We are tired of the Bush/Clinton dynasty. Come on SDs bring this thing to an end. Senator Obama is not worried about this because he knows he is the presumptive nominee. Stay strong Senator Obama God is certainly with you - I can see the writing on the wall. PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!

Janie, Raleigh, N.C.   May 12th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

I think I know more about the West Virginia voters than any of the pundits on CNN and I also know a great deal about the North Carolina voter. I lived in WVA through college and have lived for a number of years in NC. The North Carolina Democratic party has a majority of black voters. The West Virginia Democratic party has almost none. There are very few African Americans in any county in
WVa. The media painted NC as a possible upset for Hillary, but we in NC knew that could not happen. Harvey Gantt the African American Mayor of Charlotte won the nomination for Senate some years ago, but had no chance once the Republicans could vote in the general election. After the Rev. Wright issue was exposed (too bad it did not come out earlier) Obama's support dropped, but he held the very liberal voters and the black voter increased. Nevertheless he did drop by almost 10%. He cannot win the state in the general election. He cannot win WVa in the Primary or the General election. The Democratic party is about to go down to defeat again if Hillary is ignored in the primary. Take this to the bank.

Relle Boston   May 12th, 2008 7:16 pm ET

I am a Obama supporter and I am not sure if I can vote for Hillary, but I agree that Dem's must win to fix what has been a broken government.

WHO'S TIRED   May 12th, 2008 7:16 pm ET

Are you tired of paying those high prices at the pump, How about those food bills when you go shopping. Better yet how secure is your job? Or should I say are you going to be able to buy food for your family or gas for your vehicle. What has happened in the last 4 years and prior. Who has cared about

Richard   May 12th, 2008 7:16 pm ET

You had better win there,..

Fact is, A scare crow could run against a Black man is those states and win.

Too bad however that these poor mislead people vote against their own best interest every season and keep going further and further down in the economic ladder.

When will they finally learn their financial future is tied to struggling peoples everywhere and color has noting to do with it ?

Venus The Super star   May 12th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

All I can say is that Clinton is just like every other American out there. Fighting even when she doesn't have a lot of money, she's trying to make it, just like a lot of Americans, with the odds against them, she is fighting and looking to the future. I believe you can do this Hillary!!

Thank you west Virgina

Sean, Detroit MI   May 12th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Obama has won this nomination fair and square. He won it while fighting not just Hillary, but also, Bill, McCain, and a slew of other opponents. If it takes ALL OF THEM to battle skinny little Barack (and he STILL comes out on top), imagine how well he'll do against old man McCain in the fall?

CWatson   May 12th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

As "the best political team in television" is likely to conclude in the very near future after trying to keep people interested tomorrow: it really doesn't matter because it's already over.

KE   May 12th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Good tidings for West Virginia?

God bless America and God bless small towns and middle America! God bless all America.

Hillary 2008!

Devon-NorVA   May 12th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

You're right Mel in TX. I definitely can't imagine Washington, DC or our government without a Clinton somewhere. But, I am a Obama supporter since day one, and I want him in the White House.

Regardless, another four years with a Republican president, NO WAY!!

VOTE DEM!!

Dean in North Carolina   May 12th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

I tend to diasagree with Mel in Texas. Obama has ZERO experience as President, also. I believe Hillary will be a stronger force for Sen. McCain to deal with come election time. She does have the leadership experience to lead this country to prosper through all of the issues, and get back to reserves in the budget, instead of deficits of the last 8 years.
Views aside - a Democrat must win in November to bring this country back to normalcy, and a government for the people and not line the pockets of the oil company executives. How 'bout lining the American peoples pockets for a change!
Democrat NOW and in November!!!

Tom CA   May 12th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

I sure do not want to see her face and Bill Clinton in the White House again. I don't trust her and her husband and American wants change and new face to lead this great country,not the same old people running the same old game.

Bessie   May 12th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Come on West Virginia! Let's make history together and give Hillary a big win tomorrow and a boost she truely deserves. Hillary has shown us time after time that she's strong, intelligent, and a fighter and she will fight for us. She is the one with real solutions to help fix our economy, our country. GO HILLARY!

NickNas   May 12th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

How can she Brag about a big win in a state that is voteing 90% due to RACE and the whole country knows it??

Ca Native   May 12th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

Many Obama-bots don't like Clinton continuing her campaign. I suspect it's less about HER and more about what she exposes…. Obama's inability to win over the white rural vote.

Can't wait until President McCain takes the oath of office!

Hoosier4Hillary   May 12th, 2008 7:21 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is a highly educated, very experienced, and totally strong candidate, exactly what this country now needs. We have had someone that is clueless, do we want another one, Nobama, noway. Come on people, we cant afford to put him in the white house, not now when the country needs help more than ever. Wake up America, do the right thing, dont fall for his line. I am a strong Democrate but i will not vote Obama. If he wins i will vote McCain. We dont need an amature now, we cant afford one.

LYNETTE IN CA   May 12th, 2008 7:21 pm ET

In the words of dick cheney (and I never quote him) …SO.

Ellen Trumpler   May 12th, 2008 7:21 pm ET

It seems clear to me that this campaign IS about race; what Hillary is doing now is appealing to the white vote; and running a campaign on a huge deficit (a major loan). Is that the American way?

Perhaps. But if Barrack is not nominated, we will continue to have "politics as usual" and see an absence of clear judgment in our economy, international trade policies, foreign relations and the like. Regardless of how many white Americans, motivated by unconscious or surface racism, vote for Hillary, I believe that only Barrack has the wisdom and the insight into the changes needed in our country — and the ability to mobilize our
country and its resources to make this happen. The paradox is,
as long as Hillary keeps attacking him, or draws votes away
from him, we can't move forward.

Bubba brother   May 12th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

Bubba can't make it to the polls he's got a child M charge

Barack Supporter   May 12th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

To West Virginia and Kentucky, stupid is as stupid does!

To John McCain supporters, stupid is as stupit does!

Why be stupid? Support your country and vote for CHANGE!!!

matt   May 12th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

wouldnt 80 to 20 be awesome

You never know!   May 12th, 2008 7:23 pm ET

Wouldn't it be something if WV surprised us all and the margin was much narrower then the polls show…I give the people in WV credit for knowing like most people do that HRC will say anything and do anything to get the nomination…so they won't believe her pandering either. They are the people HRC was talking about last week saying they were uneducated people but what she does not seem to realize is that education does not make a person smart. West Virginia's are smart enough to see through her and know that she is feeding them a line of Bull, just to get their vote then they won't see her again for another eight or ten years and that nothing will be done to help them get jobs back in WV.

Educated, Young, Texan   May 12th, 2008 7:23 pm ET

I hope Hillary supporters find it in them to do what is right for the country instead of doing something out of hate. If my candidate (Obama) didnt get the nomination, I would vote Hillary simply because america cannot afford anymore of the same McBush policies. Im scared about the future of our country and the world. We will all be if the Hillary supporters do the unthinkable…

Patrick   May 12th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

Rhetoric between the two campaigns and their supporters is too nasty. Whether Clinto is going to quit or not, we must unify the party, or we'll en up with 4 more years of ineptitude.

Todd   May 12th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

You can have you 80-20 win in WV and Kentucky….you know what she would still be losing by more than 120 pledged delegates.

80-20 wins for her just move Obama closer to the finish line.

Spenser   May 12th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

I like how every single primary since Super Tuesday has been a 'crucial turning point' in Hillary's eyes, and she has only lost ground since that day. It's not going to matter anymore.

John Smith   May 12th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Some one, please encourage Hillary to run as an Independent candidate. This will be a blessing for the Democrats. It will be great for the Clintons to be removed far away from the democratic party, given the damage they have and continue to do.

Why is it that the Clintons always destroy whatever "good work" that they do?

To date, Edwards is highy respected because he knows when to quit in the interest of his party. Hillary should have quit a long time before now. The Republicans quit a long time ago!!!

Bacusla   May 12th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

PRIDE GOES BEFORE A FALL - a very old proverb.

Mariann Pepitone   May 12th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

When someone is loyal to a candidate they should stick with that candidate no matter what happens but it appears that Hillary does have superdelegates that switched their vote to Obama probably because they thought she did not have a chance of winning but if she wins big in WVA, KY and PUERTO RICO then I believe she still has a chance to recover and possibly win the nomination because MI and FL will be counted.

Major   May 12th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Only McCain can bring home our boys as heroes. Only Hillary can lead with true vision. Hillary signed a slip of paper that said she would abide by the rules of the DNC. BUT, and a huge BUT, she had the foresight to have her name on the Michigan ballot. Barrack is a follower, not a leader. So, when it comes time to vote, a democrat for many, many years, I will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee. We need a leader who will fight for our troops; for our people; and who knows about knowing.

Bubba Uncle   May 12th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Bubba can't vote tomorrow he got a 2 felony charges….hahahahahaahah

Proud American   May 12th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

To Mel in Texas: Ditto

Bubba friend   May 12th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

Bubba cant vote tomorrow….he can't read…..hahaahahahah

Sean   May 12th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

80-20? 90-10? Truly delusional. Seriously, if this was an Obama supporter, Clinton would be demanding he renounce and reject such ridiculous support.

Jatovi   May 12th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

It's time to begin focusing on the general election. Even if she wins all 28 delegates she will still be more than 100 delegates down. to continue focusing on the primary only seperates the party and de-values the Clinton brand. It is not time for democrates to begin to permenantly scar Obama as a canidate who cannot get the "blue collar white" vote which makes his job harder in the general election. So what your canidate Hillary didn't win. these two are fight on the same team for the same thing. If you cast your vote for Hillary then you should cast your vote for Obama in the general election. many say they won't, which makes no-sense because these two have a lot in common when you look at their plans. Their only major difference is the silly gas tax idea. They both want health care for all, better economy, fixing the housing crisis, bringing down the oil companies, stoping predetary lenders, and more. So for those who keep chanting,"I won't vote for Obama," I guess you were the ones who voted for bush in 04 because you are willing to vote for him again in '08.

Hillary 08   May 12th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Obama step down and let someone who can handle the job have it, dream ticket =Clinton/Edwards. Nightmare=NObama

RickytheGriff   May 12th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Thank you, CNN for your endless support of Hillary Clinton. I love how you hardly ever run a positive article on Obama!

Now, some people might call you biased, but I say that's just silly! You know a winner when you see one… and, let's face facts, when she becomes president, she'll need a Fox News-like channel… and you're doing a fine job of living up to their high standards.

smokesignals   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

Stupid is as stupid does.

These two primaries may slow Obama's momentum a bit, but it says a lot for the dumbing of America, when they ignore the lies "under sniper fire" that Hellary's campaign have so negatively wrought on the public.

She's doing a grave disservice to the nation and to all the young people who have finally taken an interest in a candidate with character.

Go Obama.

mike in pa   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

Mel in Texas.. you DO realize that Obama ALSO has ZERO experience as President, right?? So does McCain. Your comment doesn't make any sense.

gerald strother   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chut Pata   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

… with the help of republicsn who are not going to vote for you in GE?

Doug, WV   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Obama/Webb 08

Clinton supporters are drinking too much Kool-Aid. However, with limited money there will be no more Kool-Aid, therefore we will have lots of Junkies running around.

I hope McCain can afford to give them new Kool-Aid. Or they can come to Obama's Rehab Center.
Obama will bring change to Washington. No more Kool-Aid. CHANGE

OBAMA 08

Seat Florida and Michigan   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Seat FL & MI based on the elections that have taken place.
(Obama does not get MI 55 uncommitted).
Required: 2208.5
Current Obama lead: 52.5

David, Santa Rosa, CA   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Is this all just media hype? Does anyone, other than a few enthusiastic supporters, believe that HRC has any chance at all?

C'mon Democrats, it's time for us to come together and focus our efforts on the General Election and McCain and also taking back the senate.

Real Obama supporters don't have time to gloat. We're too busy doing what we can to make change happen starting with the White House and Congress. As the Clinton campagin says, we can't just "hope" change into being.

Please supporters on both sides…. let's get past this quickly. Some time is needed to heal, but not too much time is left.

Dawn   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

But according to Hillary, small states don't matter. So this is irrelevant.

Shirley, Silicon Valley, CA   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

This woman is just such a DISGRACE! Her days are numbered!

1865   May 12th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

Who cares if she hits a 3 pointer after the buzzer?

Antonio   May 12th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

let the clintonbots strike begin…

Chris Portland, OR   May 12th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

Wow - I can see why you ignore the previous persons posts alot. More incoherent rambling from an Obamamaniac.

Do you think this wins over voters?   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Doom. May 12th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

calling the things in West Virginia people is really stretching it don't you think?

ocanada   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Poor Mrs. Clinton. If she is the stronger candidate, why hasn't that been proven by now, and why has her opponent doubled her across the country in states won? There are 50 states, Mrs. Clinton, not just big white ones, and the presidential election includes all of them. It appears that your appeal is localized.

Bubba Girlfriend   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Bubba drove to Kentucky to vote in the West Virginia primaries…..hahahahahah

Game changer

A.M.   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

110 to -10, WHO CARES!

You think we are as stupid as you want us to be, West Verginia voters are not dumb and naive either, Hillary. West Verginia voters are smart, they will support 'Obama' overwhelmingly, you just watch! These voters from West Verginia are not prejuidists as you want them to be, to them America is not 'Black and White' to them America is "United States of America", like Obama keeps reminding us.

A.M.
Houston, Texas

gerald strother   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

HER IS A REAL POLL West Virginia Democratic Presidential Primary
West Virginia: Clinton 56% Obama 27 BY RASMUSSEN TO DAY

Venus   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

It's OK. if she wins big in WV - those are the people we will pick up in Nov/08! And, it's OK. - remember - Hillary have some states she will do very well in - same as Obama!

Obama is focus on Mc Cain and the GE!

When Obama picks his VP - probably Mr. Hagel - and we have started the 50-state vote - the Dems will be fine and will win in Nov/08!

Kevin   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

We are not going to put an inexprinced person in the White House. If Clinton wins the popular vote, she should be the nomonie. Period. Enough of Obama people thinking they are entitled to something they are not.

clueless   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

the Obama supporters think this wins him more votes:
Doom. May 12th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

calling the things in West Virginia people is really stretching it don't you think?

Enlightened Voter   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

I predicted it before the race even started that Obama with his positive message would be president and so far doesn't look like I am wrong. There are so many enlightened people, (black, white, asian, spanish and others) that are voting for him. His message is resonating with almost everyone except those UNenlightened people who want to keep the status quo. But the beautiful thing is that GOD, the universe, whatever you want to call it will have the last word.

Den   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

So what if she wins WV and Ky. They are both Republican states. She wouldn't win them in the fall. Hillary has showed she's willing to do a torch and burn strategy. She's not interested in anyone's welfare but her own. The Clintons can't stand the fact they are losers. To those Clinton supporters who claim Obama has stolen the nomination, give me a break. You're all showing what true narrow minded hypocrites you are. As an Independant, either Obama or McCain will be a far better choice than Hillary. I hope the era Clinton sleazy politics is gone forever.

Melvin   May 12th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

Yes! Obama 08 but I will vote Hillary and not McCain!
Cali in the house!

marianna   May 12th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

I'm leaving my town for November election and will make sure to send in an absentee balot with Hillary voted on, or added by hand for that matter.

Terp08   May 12th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

Mel in Texas - well said. I couldnt say it any better!!

ronald   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

We should be ashamed if she dowsnt win WV by at leat 60-40

H3 / NC   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

Good bye Hillary

james   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

If Hillary is so "electable", why are the Republicans working to get her nominated? And, they are.
If the shoe was on the other foot, Obama would have dropped out a few weeks ago.

eddie p.   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

after the butt kicking Obama is subjected to in West Virginia!! I want to hear what CNN-, FOX and other networks have to say. I wonder if the will say Obama Gets tail end Wipped in West Virginia. Or will they just simply state that he lost .

GCG - Austin, TX   May 12th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

Absolutely delusional. 80% doesn't make a difference. This race is about DELEGATES, it always has been. Anyone trying to change the rules is just that: trying to change the rules!!!

The rules were agreed to BY EVERYONE before the racing started. It is not a case of someone "stealing" the election from someone else. It is all about the delegates and the delegate math. It is not about the popular vote and it is not about how big you might win a particular state, or which state you win. It is about the delegates and that's ALL that matters, everything else is continued pandering to the electorate.

Edward, Michigan   May 12th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

I am praying that something will happen to turn the tide into Hillary's favor. She is the candidate that is most ready for the job and she is the one who can beat McCain. I never voted republican but I will have to if Obama will get the nomination, and so will a lot of people in my community. GO HILLARY!!!!!

FRED Atlanta, GA   May 12th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

WELL SAID MEL IN TEXAS!!!!! WELL SAID!!

OBAMA 08/12 YES WE CAN and YES WE WILL

Candi California   May 12th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

After W. Va. and Ky Clinton can spin that she is a victim and retire back to the Senate. He is giving her a chance to leave gracefully but if she does not then she is toast.

Paula   May 12th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

Well no one really gives a rat's rear end how many votes Hil get, the DNC's rules implicitly state that the nomination is decides by delegates, period, end of story.

An American in Canada for David   May 12th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

THESE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES ARE NOT A FORGONE CONCLUSION, THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THIS RACE.

I THINK IT IS VERY UNFAIR THAT SUPER DELEGATES ARE TRYING TO PURSUADE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE THEY SUPPORT.

THE REMAINING STATES, THAT WILL HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE, ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT OBAMA AND CLINTON’S POLICES AND SOLUTIONS AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT CLINTON AND OBAMA THEN THEY DO ABOUT MCCAIN.

HILLARY R. CLINTON WON FLORIDA WITHOUT EVEN ADVERTISING IN THAT STATE, SO EACH STATE HAS PRETTY MUCH MADE UP THEIR MINDS ALREADY WHOM THEY ARE GOING TO SUPPORT.

SORT OF A LOT LIKE THESE BLOGGS, NO ONE CHANGES ANY PERSONS VIEW POINT WITH THEIR NEGATIVE COMMENTS.

R-J   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

How many non whites are there in WV, what is their percentage to the general population?
How many non white Federal senators and representatives are there in WV and their percentages to the total?
How many non white State senators and representatives are there in WV and their percentage to the total?

Ostriches burying our heads in the sand   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

Win by 100-0 if you can….sure…it will give Sen. Clinton some bragging rights….but it won't change the reality that slowly but surely Barack is heading towards the finish line and he will be our nominee and he will work hard to beat Sen. McCain in the Fall….And if Dems are smart and farsighted they won't let McCain sneak into the White House…

Armando Rodriguez   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

please tell Ms: Hilary clinton to Run as Independent so she can win the president Election whit out Delegate and superdelegate, and let Barack Obama deal whit the disgrace Democratic party.

Thank
Armando Rodriguez.

Janet WV for Obama   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

I am from West Virginia and I can tell you that race is a major factor here. Most of these people will NEVER vote for a mixed race person. They are not interested in issues like the economy at all. All they look at is Sen. Obama's race and vote for Clinton. She is in for a real surprise because we will see in the fall that they won't vote for a woman either. They are really behind the times. This week there was a front page story in our newspaper on retaliation for telling where a moonshine still was. I'm not kidding. I support Sen. Obama and I'm not alone, but you won't see bumper stickers or yard signs because these people could possibly harm someone displaying either. Such a shame. It means NOTHING to the rest of the country if Clinton wins here.

edna   May 12th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

West Virginia will mean nothing if Hillary takes all delagates//She's too far off the map.If she was not a Clinton, she would've done like Edwards and bowed out gracefully..

Sad   May 12th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

I've never been to the good state of West Virginia, but the press has been reporting that Hillary will win WV due to a population that is predominately white, uneducated and racist. This is a win she'll be proud of?

Mary   May 12th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

Why is it news that Clinton will win in notoriusly racist places like West Virginia and Kentucky???? Will noone state the obvious! She will win by a large margin because the people that live in those two states do not want a black President…that is the only reason…and for the Clintons to pretend that all of a sudden it is because they like her message or for any other reason then because she is white…well, they sure can spin it. But they can spin it all they want. Who the hell cares about what a racist thinks?

dwayne   May 12th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

For sake of argument let's say you do win by 80:20. You only have 28 pledged delegates; besides, WV doesn't speak for the rest of country. They speak for themselves.

Oh…that's right only the states that Hillary wins matters. All the other states are just a bunch of little ones that don't matter right? That's why you're losing Billary. The world doesn't revolve around the name Clinton. Get a grip!

Obama '08

lol   May 12th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

hillary wins the core of the democratic party. if the superdelegates and dnc doesn't realize this by now, there is a movement for her to run as an independent. howard dean and nancy pelosi created this mess and divided the democrats. they did nothing for you hillary, take your votes from your loyalist and run independent, you will win!

R.U. Kidding   May 12th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

She beats Obama by all these points? On what issues that most Americans face can we attribute such a margin?

Sally   May 12th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

Whatever happened to her 35 years of experience?

Oh yea, she doesn't have any experience.

Former Obama Supporter   May 12th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

Hillary and her supporters will send a message tomorrow. If you all Obama supporters keep saying that Clinton needs to just give up and all these negative comments, what makes you think we are going to join you and vote for Obama? Obama supporters have been more negative then the republicans. I am now thinking about voting for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. Hillary supporters should check out the RNC video on Obama. It is fantastic. I highly recommend it. Obama is inexperienced and he cannot be trusted with so much power.

Pedeen   May 12th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

Game over! whether Hillary wins 80% to 20% is insignificant!!!. With all respect Sen Hillary STOP DESTROYING DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Swallow your pride unite with the winner and live to fight another day. Let people remember you with the good deeds you have done to the world otherwise you will be remembered as cyclone Hillary who wrecked the Democratic party!!. Go Go Go Mcain!! you are a hero!!!

Truthiness   May 12th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

Winner takes all makes Clinton the big win
Obama lost America when Wright went wrong in public

shannonL   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I agree. Obama didn't even bother to show up. He doesn't care about WV. The people of WV need to show Obama that they are important too.

couldabeen   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Hillary can be the candidate–and she's the only one to beat McCain.

eric, minnesota   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I just love the fact that Sen. Clinton keeps saying she knows she is the best candidate to run against McCain. Well, there is only one problem with that statement. The American people disagree. Isnt that why we have these primarys. So, people can vote. Clinton keeps saying let the people vote, let the people vote. While at the same time she is trying to get the superdelagates to OVERTURN THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. She is talking out of both sides of her mouth.

illinois for Hillary   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I can list more than five, ten or 100 things he has done for this country.

I live in Illinois Mel and I can't name one. Instead of telling us that you can list them go ahead and list them.

Beverly, NYC   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Even if Hillary wins by 100% she will not be the nominee. If by some miracle she is given the nomination she will not win in November. Too many republicans around who remember Bill's 8 yrs. I am sure there is more dirt on the both of them that the public was ever told about. Keep campaigning Hillary, it's all about you. You have 98 million or so left plus all those hollywood friends, who have been mighty quiet lately, I sure they can kick in the max allowed. You can campaign until McCain or Obama are sworn in, no one will ask you to drop out. Think of the fees you can charge to speak at women's groups about how the boys did you wrong and ruined your chance to be the fist female predisent! IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU!!!

Jake, California   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Hillary can win 100-0 it won't make a difference now! It only means that some Americans need more education. Why does voting for a black man have to be such a nightmare to the rural, aged and uneducated folks!
No insult intended here but this is pretty much the demograic that wont vote Obama.

We will seal this deal up with Oregaon and South Dakota, Hillary can have WV and KY

Merele   May 12th, 2008 7:44 pm ET

i hope she does win by that amount in that backwards, racist state, uneducated state. she deserves them and they deserve her!

marcelo   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

I'm really dissappointed in some of the data coming out of these two states. Multple polls and interviews show that most of the Clinton supporters in West Virginia and Kentucky are misinformed about Barack Obama. They believe the negative rumors propagated by some very underhanded people saying that Barack isn't a patriot and a long standing Christian.

If Hillary truly believes that she has EARNED the votes of West Virginians and Kentuckians based on her own merits, and she's aware of the prevailent misunderstanding/misinformation about Obama's faith and values by voters, then she should clarify to all her supporters that Obama is a Christian and is a VERY proud American and that they should vote for her based on the issues. I would really respect her as a candidate then.

Ill-informed/misled voters don't equate to a true victory, they are just a sad reason for why this country continues to make poor choices (i.e. IRAQ War)

DELMARVA   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

polls, schmolls…I know the lead is 40% and the person in the article bragged 80-20 or even 90-10, but how hard will they fall its its not?

DEMS '08 and '12!

Zoey   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

Delusional

b   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

mel,
I am right there with you, but I think we are waiting for the 9th inning to say so. I hope at least. The rest of the primaries all combined cannot help her. I am sorry it has come to this, but it has. The world is watching this don't forget.

spencer   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

90% - 10%, in Clintons favor..Obama drop out now you will divide the party… I am saying this because i will be one of the divided. Will only support Clinton no matter what….Take that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow!   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Hillary is one ugly chick! That pic is aweful. Do the American people really want a President that looks like that?!

Terry H   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Unfortunately she could win every single vote but the DNC has twisted enough superdelegate arms to rig this race no matter. The REAL democrats need to unite against Obama and clean house while Mccain does what he can for us the next four years. I want Hillary to keep going so the world can see how the DNC is rigging this race. Then I hope she runs independent or keeps campaigning for a write in vote. HILLARY 08!

HILLARY CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER!!   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

OH YEAH!
I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE ODRAMA SUPPORTERS SAY THEN!
WHY CAN'T YOUR GUY WIN THE BIG STATES?
BECAUSE HE IS DISHONEST AND WE DO NOT TRUST HIM!!!!!!!!

GO HILLARY GO!!!!!!!!!

Brigeite   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

Whatev.

cubanamericanwoman - OC - CA   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

SELFISHNESS, GREED, POWER STRUCK, FEELINGS OF ENTITLEMENT, ETC. ETC. ETC.

ALL OF THOSE NEGATIVE HUMAN TRAITS HRC POSSESSES.

THE WORLD IS AWAITING TO FIND OUT HOW SMART THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE.

YES, WE CAN and WE WILL…..

OBAMA 08 & 12

Steve   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

How many 'turning points' can there be?

I would be shocked if she got 80%. There are 600,000+ registered democrats in WV. If she gets 60%, that's 360,000 and Obama gets 30% thats 180,000. She's only gaining 180,000 popular votes. He's currently leading by over 700,000.

After all of the remaining six contests (which they should split), it should end up where it started before WV.

Eric   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

80-20? Not a chance in hell. The only state that even came close to that for Hillary was Arkansas, which went 70-30. MAYBE WV will go 65-35 for her, but it will probably be even closer than that.

Truth   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

I wouldn't count my eggs before they hatch!. Senators Clinton and Obama are very capable candidates. If one wins, it does not mean the other has problem. The notion that she is doing while he is not base on one or two elections is pathetic. She always win. Why would tomorrow be any different. Win some lose some game. Move on to May 20, 2008. See what happen!. It is fun to watch!

b   May 12th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

I am an Obama supporter as well, i guess my previous post was not clear.

Dave Froyalde/Washington   May 12th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

What a media bias. It looks like no media organization is exited about Senator Hillary Clinton leading Senator Obama by as much as 40% in West Virginia in recent polls. If it is the other way around , we will hear and see all the media organizations including CNN that Senator Obama is leading and is trumpeting that the selection of the democratic nominee is over. All I ask is fairness in reporting. Is that hard for the news media to do?

HFT in Texas   May 12th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

This has gone to far. Some of the people in WV will be voting for the wrong reasons. This is not something we should take for granted - this election will affect our children and grandchildren. Stop thinking about yourselves and think about them. Don't vote just because she is a Clinton or she is a woman and trying to make Senator Obama look bad. I am tired of this nonsense and I am quite sure many more of us are too. Give it a BREAK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

andrea   May 12th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

sorry Mel but I disagree. Hillary is the better choice. Obama could never have her strength, leadership or presidential qualities.

brian bernard   May 12th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

hillary you need to stop acting the way you are like a spoil brat

David   May 12th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

Clinton needs better than 85% to start making a dent.

kevin from alaska   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Well if that's not building up unrealistic expectations… does the Clinton camp know how to NOT shoot themselves in the foot? Cause I haven't seen it yet.

maya   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Mel in Texas - I respect your opinion. No one is trying to take anything away from Obama. Hillary just has a right to run her campaign- it is a close election. She has been ridiculed and marginalized. She has been demanded to drop out many times over these last few months.

Neither has enough delegates to secure the nomination. No one is taking it awayy from Obama. The superdelegates will choose the most electable - just as the rules in the "system" say they can.

Jeff, Huntington Beach, CA   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

You are all playing into the Republicans hands. Another Bush presidency anyone…?

Carl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, etc, etc, must be laughing themselves sick…

linda hemmingsen   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

he may be a little excited but i hope he is right and she wins big time!good luck hillary and i hope west virgina comes out in the millions and i hope they support hillary and if they do it shows courage not to just fall in line because the media has declared obama the winner. it is not over till it is over which is what a true democratic election is all about. a canadian who is following the race.

pat   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

would you please list those thing hes done, naturally she have zero experiance as president , she hasen,t been elected yet but she will an you no she will make a far better president than obama will, your leading with your heart no your brain, stop an think who really cares for this country an always has she is always trying to do better things for us but it seen she can,t win for us because washington shoots her down, if she was president it might be a different story, give obama a few more years then he can run in 2016 an will all support him then will lock this thing up fore a long time.

Obama   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Hillary 2008. Obama does not have the kind of experience to lead the country.

How sad   May 12th, 2008 7:51 pm ET

I have never visited the good state of WV, but from what I've been reading in the media the population is mostly white, uneducated and racist. And Hillary is proud to be their choice?

spencer   May 12th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

Vote for Hillary tommarrow in West Virginia………. She's by far the best choice for President…

Ryan from Indiana   May 12th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

It may not do muych to the delegate count but it will do something for the popular vote count. And that does mean something.

Obama 08:white, female and 60   May 12th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

Obama has lead Clinton in the past four polls…leads by 12% in the latest poll…he is gathering momentum….Clinton said small states don't matter…she changes with every state…not what I want in an American president…democracies depend on people playing by the rules.

hamstring   May 12th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

I am one VERY liberal, Gay Marriage, Gay Rights Ammendment, Gay Democrat who has always voted democrate for the last 30 years.

I will NEVER, NEVER , NEVER under any circumsances vote for Obama. No Democrat has yet to advance the causes that I care for so having to vote for McCain to keep Obama out of the white house will not bother me at all. The NObama campaign has begun in earnest here in Louisiana.

If not Hillary '08 then McCain '08

NObama…NEVER

Audrey in SF   May 12th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

I agree. Clinton will do magnificently in WV. Perhaps she should go be a senator there?

Ratgurl   May 12th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

“I wouldn’t be doing this if I didn’t believe I could be the best president for West Virginia…." Yeah, there's her job - President of West Virginia! I bet she'd be a fantastic President of West Virginia. She can hand out with her Deliverance brethren!

Paul   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

Im sick of Clinton supporters counting the votes in Michigan and in Florida. Barack wasn't even on the ballot, did you ever think about how many voters were disenfranchised by not letting them vote for Barack, many just stayed at home knowing their vote wouldn't be counted. Stop counting votes that as of now do NOT count towards your popular vote tally.

Now I feel for those that voted and want their votes counted, but by counting theirs it just slaps the other voters in the face that were told the votes were not counting so they never voted. Why not give them a chance. If the clintons want a re-vote, fine, but stop counting them as of now.

sacto joe   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

DEMOCRATS BEWARE!!!

A lot of neo-cons posing as Democrats are posting hate mail. They're trying to drive a wedge between us!

RESIST THE NEOCON HATE MACHINE!

Carolina Girl   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

If you really want to beat McCain in the fall, then vote for Hillary. Hillary voters will never stand behind Obama if he gets the nomination. However, Obama supporters will rally behind Sen. Clinton. Personally, I would not want McCain or Obama on my conscience, so I will stay home if Hillary does not get the nomination. Obama is just making sure that McCain gets the White House. He knows he will lose against McCain, so why don't the media call for HIM to step down?

Keith R.   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

I think the haters in general speak loudest so let me say this.

WIN LOSE OR DRAW, DEMOCRATS'08!!

I am an avid Obama supporter but I am also a Democrat. Just because I don't agree with some other Demo's doesn't mean I'm going to have animosity toward them.

I welcome the company of the Hillary supporters and hope they welcome my company.

-Keith from AZ (McCain - ugh!)

Reality   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

Doesn't matter, since 60% of Americans consider Hiilary to be untrustworthy, thus rendering her totally unelectable in the general.

It's over, except for the shameless pandering for donations to pay back her huge campaign debts.

Shelly from WI   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

Why isn't this bothering the Obama Camp? grrrr do something immediately, narrow this lead please!

Bill   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

Mel in Texas…….. 100 things OBAMA has done for this country.,…………………………? GO !!!!!

John Beatrice   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

McCain/Clinton '2016

pat   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

if you look at the polls she matches up better with mccain the obama does even in the red states that he will win if its obama, maybe mccain won,t win those red states against clinton its possible she is liked in those red states she carried them in the primarys. check it out

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