May 12, 2008
Posted: 03:20 PM ET

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A Clinton supporter set the bar in Tuesday's vote very high.
A Clinton supporter set the bar in Tuesday's vote very high.

LOGAN, West Virginia (CNN) – Political campaigns usually look to lower expectations – but one of Hillary Clinton’s supporters took the opposite tack Monday, setting the bar for a West Virginia primary win at an unprecedented high at an enthusiastic campaign event.

“You think this crowd’s noisy?” said West Virginia Senate Majority Leader Harry Truman Chafin. “Just wait ‘til we win like 80-20.”

“We’ve got to give her a vote tomorrow of 80-20 or 90-10,” he added moments later.

A campaign spokesman quickly tried to downplay Chafin’s remaks, saying “We appreciate his exuberance, but we're pretty sure this race is going to be much closer than that.”

Polls suggest Clinton will win West Virginia very easily — recent polls have shown her beating the Illinois senator by as much as 40 percentage points.

But Chafin isn’t the only one raising expectations.

Last week President Bill Clinton told a campaign crowd that ”all this stuff you are hearing about is an attempt to discourage you. That's what this is, pure and simple, hoping, 'Well, Hillary can get 80 percent of the vote in West Virginia', and if only 100,000 people show up it is not enough. But if 600,000 people show up, and you say, 'We want a president', then you will see the earth move.

There are 28 pledged delegates in play in West Virginia Tuesday, so a victory margin of 60-80 percent would allow Barack Obama to maintain a significant part of his 172 delegate lead, though it could slow his momentum.

Clinton herself didn’t completely shy away from the expectations game, calling Tuesday’s primary “a crucial turning point in this election.” She argued that voters’ primary objective should be to choose the candidate best suited to beat John McCain in the fall.

“I wouldn’t be doing this if I didn’t believe I could be the best president for West Virginia and America and that I was the stronger candidate to take on John McCain in the fall and make sure we have a Democrat in the White House,” she said.

Obama himself seemed happy to agree with the most optimistic Clinton campaign assessments. “I think President Clinton said that they are going to get 80 percent of the vote,” he told reporters in South Charleston Monday afternoon. “We’ll take him at his word.”

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • West Virginia


Michael   May 12th, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Ok, we're gonna wait until you win by that margin and YOU WILL STILL BE BEHIND!!!!!!!

kido from WV   May 12th, 2008 8:40 pm ET

Wait and see the margins and be surprised. well, it's a payback time for the debt she is in, and she will remind everybody to go to her website and ……..;her debt is paid (at least a portion) and she will quit. i am not a prophet but that is what she is aiming. Work hard and pay your debts! She has lost long time ago. if She wins, me and all my friends will never vote for democrats for sure. Non-negotiable. This is not just stealing but a face-off; and no one is fool to take this. We all know math. i don't blame her though. The Superdelegates are responsible for the failure of the democratic party. They could have decided long time ago before all the trashy arguments. They let that happen and they are still waiting for an excuse to give it to her. Anybody with common sense knows this fact.

Jake   May 12th, 2008 8:34 pm ET

Amen Mel in Texas, we as Democrats have to come together, this isn't about issues, Clinton and Obama are similar when it comes to issues. Democrats have to put aside thier hard feeling and get over the fact that Hillary will not be the canidate for us. She is a fighter, but she has lost this fight. We need to focus on making sure McBush doesn't win, and if you would rather vote for him over Obama, then this was never about the issues and the political differences, it would be because your a racist. Go listen to Glenn Beck and support whoever he wants, and get out of the our party.
Democrat for a Democrat in the White House

Olivia   May 12th, 2008 8:31 pm ET

I am on the ignore list also.
Hillary is my candidate of choice and at this point of the campaign I'm tickled, having a good laugh at what's going on.
Hillary is so strong she's making obama look really weak….which he is….and the obama camp and the activist left of the dem party is getting nervous. The old Washington "status quo" that Obama vows to get rid of but who have all stepped forward to support him…..the same people that came out very early to call for Hillary to step out of the race, is really getting worried. They should be. By continuing the race Hillary isn't undermining the party, she is showing up their candidate for what he is…..inexperienced and naive.
Obama wasn't ready and it's becoming quite obvious. Cut the hype and the rock star behaviour, and it all looks pretty average.

Ed   May 12th, 2008 8:29 pm ET

If it really mattered I cause it would mean something. Senator Clinton you had the deal in your hands to close from the beginning and you didn't do it. You were beaten by a more junior Senator than you because he had a better message and was more believable. You don't have all the experience you try to claim and the country has seen through your lies."You have also damaged the Clinton Legacy forever" We now look at Bill differently because of the campaign you have run. It truly is a sad time for what the Clinton Campaign gas done.

Marie in California   May 12th, 2008 8:28 pm ET

Hillary WILL win more of the popular vote than Obama in the long run…..and the superdelegates and the DNC will still bend over backwards so far that they'll do somersaults as they hasten to give the nomination to Obama, the least qualified of all the three current candidates running for the job of president.

That's crazy, as is the confusing, inefficient, convoluted primary process that the Democrats use. I have to say, the RNC sure does a better job of all of that.

As a centrist/moderate Democrat and one who has never been very loyal regarding party dogma, preferring instead to support individual candidates, Hillary is my first choice this election.

My second choice is McCain. End of story.

Rachel   May 12th, 2008 8:25 pm ET

Woo Hoo!! 80-20 is unlikely but.. it'd be sweet!

Popular vote wins all- Sorry Baraccoli, that's one thing you won't have. Maybe you and Rev. Wright can figure out a way to have none of WV's votes count since Hillary's projected to mop the floor with you there.

Frank   May 12th, 2008 8:24 pm ET

If Hillary wins the popular vote, and if she can prove that the states she has won are necessary for us, Democrats, to win the general election in 2008, I couldn't care less what Obama looks like (he could be as white as snow white), we need a winner in 2008! If she wins the popular vote and she doesn't get the nomination, this will be a second time this has happened, and look what happened to us when Bush took over!!!

Drew, Central FL   May 12th, 2008 8:23 pm ET

She has to do better 85/15 in all the remaining contests to overtake his lead. That's not going to happen. Not in WV, KY, or anywhere else for that matter. It's time Senator Clinton. Time to mend fences and bring this party together. Protracting this race isn't serving any purpose, but to waste time. We need to focus on McCain and the GOP Swiftboat Machine.

Dems Unite '08

Taylor   May 12th, 2008 8:23 pm ET

Well, of course people in the medai want to make it seem like they expect to win by so many percentage points. Everyoe knows that he was saying he wants it to be as close as possible and was asking people to do their best so we could have a win by huge margins. It will be much closer than that. The poll with the biggest lead has her leading by 40… so how could anyone speculate an 80% victory.
Garbage that the media wants to buff up to try and destroy her.

Roger May Philadelphia, Pa   May 12th, 2008 8:22 pm ET

If you are a Hillary supporter who is willing to vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee, God Bless You! That said, if you are so fanatical and you are so bitter that you will vote for McBush before Obama (or plan not to vote), please go down to your nearest military recruiter and volunteer to go to Iraq, and you might as well take your children with you! That way you will at least have some choice in regards to your future before you and your loved ones get drafted to fight for generations to come!

Obama is a no win for dems   May 12th, 2008 8:22 pm ET

Obama will cost Democrats the general election if they wrongfully hand him the nomination, by disenfranchising millions of democratic voters. I have a large extended family and we are ll democrats. We will all vote for McCain, if the racist Obama gets the nomination.

JN   May 12th, 2008 8:22 pm ET

who cares what HER numbers are…the only important numbers in this contest are BARACKS!!!! Now Billary are these the only states that count for you..You are totally delisional!! Can't wait til you gone!!!!

M.S. Indiana   May 12th, 2008 8:22 pm ET

wow that guy is scary, hope WV are better then that…

Amazing how the Clinton's did not care about the small states, until now.. but good she have to compete in every one of them, just to get nowhere…
Amazing they did not remember when Bill ran first time, that it was a clse race to too, must be nice to be in the elite

Hope people give her enough money to 0 her debt. WV make her pay before you give her anything

Bob   May 12th, 2008 8:20 pm ET

This only goes to show that racism is alive and well in America.

Good Grief   May 12th, 2008 8:19 pm ET

Great. Now HRC can retire from the primary with her head held high and Obama and McCain can start the general. She'll have her dignity, he'll have the nom, and the Dems will take the White House. BushCo's days of destruction are almost over. Prochoice, anti-Iraq, pro economy, anti-torture, I've had all I can stomach of this administration and I have no appetite for McClone.

Steven in Utah - White & 53 Years Old   May 12th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

There is a very good reason why Barack Obama gets the educated vote! THEY'RE EDUCATED! I believe it's our turn now. The last 7+ years have been controlled by the less than educated and see what a huge mess our country is in. If you believe in Karma then that might explain why Barack Obama came on the scene now. We desperately need him and I believe he is the only candidate that can begin to turn things around. Hopefully 20 or 30 years from now people will look back at his Presidency and say “That was when change really happened and we became the great nation we always knew we were”. Go Obama!

Keith in CA   May 12th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

Didn't the Clintons consider smaller states, like West Virginia, insignificant? You know, the states Senator Obama won 11 in a row a few months ago.

carley   May 12th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is still in this campaign because I and at least 17,000,000 other Clinton supporters want her to stay in it. That is nearly half of all Democrats, and this ugly, mean-spirited push to shove Obama down the throats of those of us who vehemently feel Clinton is the better nominee has made me and many other life-long democrats skeptical of our party affiliation. If the Superdelegates, whose ultimate job is not so much to uphold the vote of the slim majority, but to choose the nominee who will beat the Republican in November, decide to people please the slim Obama majority, then it is a spineless party that I will have nothing more to do with.

There is no comparison between the experience, knowledge and electability of Clinton and that of Obama. He is a babe in the woods, and she's ready to lead.

KE   May 12th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

Don't forget secret republican machine against Hillary too.

We don't know who is who anymore in this election.

But we know who Hillary is. Hillary 2008!

Tina   May 12th, 2008 8:17 pm ET

Mel in Texas,

Please go ahead and list them… What has he done for this country?

Debbie   May 12th, 2008 8:16 pm ET

Who gives a toot at who can beat John McCain? It's who can do the job and get us out of this mess we are in. We don't want another Clinton especially one that is so out of control and high on herself that she can't realize she has already LOST. Out of control women can do a lot of harm! Wonder what Bill has been up to these days away from his wife???

Dr. Bee   May 12th, 2008 8:16 pm ET

West Virgina and Kentucky don't matter. It's over. She could win 100%. Wait, aren't they all related in WV and KY? That explains it. Do they have TV? I heard a guy from WV on the radio say today that he wasn't going to vote for Obama because "he ain't a full blooded American." What? And they think he is a muslim. Speaks well for Appalachia, huh.

Paul   May 12th, 2008 8:15 pm ET

These Clintons sound like a very bad soap opera. Obama is the only hope of sanity.

cj-delhi ny   May 12th, 2008 8:15 pm ET

They must have a lot of uneducated white people in West Virginia.

Justice   May 12th, 2008 8:15 pm ET

Lot of Hillary fans started saying they will not vote for Obama in the fall. Does it mean they have already given up on Hillary and admitted defeat?

daniel   May 12th, 2008 8:14 pm ET

West Virginia .Three Clintons for the price of one, not to bad

Kemp in WV   May 12th, 2008 8:14 pm ET

As a resident of West Virginia, I see firsthand how popular Senator Clinton is in this rural area. I wouldn't be surprised if the margin was 70-30, but I think 80-20 is very unrealistic. Barack Obama has already conceded West Virginia AND Kentucky, so that obviously shows he is not very concerned about the "blow-out" here in West Virginia.

Justice   May 12th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

YAWN. You might be misspeaking, Hillary. sniper.

Mr Mike   May 12th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

No worries Montana, Oregon and South Dakota will go big for Obama and will be more than enough for Obama to hit 2025. That's why Obama is heading to Fla. and Michigan. He is already taking on McCain while Hillary does her end game tour before endorsing Obama after June 3, 2008.

chad   May 12th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

to mel.. I voted for Obama.. and wished I didn't.. I would vote for Hillary in the fall, but if Obama is on the ticket, I am voting for McCain.

marty from Indiana   May 12th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

It is too bad the people in West Virginia and Kentucky don't own tv sets and didn't watch Saturday Night Live this past week. The whole world knows the truth about Hillary…. too bad the folks from Kentucky and West Virginia are too busy in the outhouse to learn what everyone else knows… get a tv set, learn to read the newspaper… stop inbreeding.

Tjaye   May 12th, 2008 8:12 pm ET

Well said Mel and I hope she has a big win in WV and then she feels better about getting out of the race. She can't win, but she can go out on top and feel she is being the martyr for the party. Whatever it takes, but we need a win in November and we are on our way to blowing it.

Obama O-8!

Pam   May 12th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

I agree with Mel in Texas, although I am a Clinton supporter and I really can't stand Obama or his wife! And if Obama is the nominee, I will hold my nose and vote for him because he's a DEMOCRAT…FOR A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND TO END THE WAR IN IRAQ. And I truly dislike Obama and think his wife is horrendous (quote…for the first time in my adult life, I'm proud to be an American unquote). How could I possibly like this mean-spirited woman?!!! BUT I'm voted for the party and don't kid yourself, republicans do the same. They may or may not like McCain, but that's who they're voting for. And Democrats need to do the same. Vote for the party platform.

Chris from San Antonio   May 12th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

She's a viable candidate because she can bring in the serpent handler vote.

Steve   May 12th, 2008 8:10 pm ET

WV & Ky;

Don't fail this nation now! We are counting on you in the bottom of the 9th.

Obama 08

or BUST

Samual Adams   May 12th, 2008 8:10 pm ET

Well the first thing you know old Hillarys a millionaire, her kin folk said Hillary move away from here, they say California is the place she oughta be so she loaded up her truck and she move to beverly,,, hills that is,,,movie stars, swimming pools.
banjo muisic starts.

Dal CA Republican   May 12th, 2008 8:10 pm ET

HRC could not run her Campaign. She could not balance her small campaign either. how can she run the ECONOMY of USA. HRC You will WIN but this WIN DOES NOT COUNT AS YOU ARE SO DEEP IN DOO DOO ALL WE CAN SEE IS YOUR HAIR.

Linus   May 12th, 2008 8:09 pm ET

We have an uneducated white person in the White House right now, and he's not doing too well. We need a president who is smart, who is savvy, who understands complexities, and who doesn't cater to our baser instincts. Remember Mitt Romney's self-deprecating top-10 — that he was wrong to think "As Utah Goes, So Goes the Nation?" Well, Hillary is wrong, too. It is not the case that "As West Virginia goes; so goes the nation." It's more like — "as the 32 states that have voted for Obama, so goes the nation."

PAT FOR OBAMA   May 12th, 2008 8:09 pm ET

YOU CAN VOTE FOR HER ALL U WANT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY OBAMA WILL BE THE WINNER. HE IS AHEAD IN EVERYTHING, AND SHE WILL NEVER CATCH UP.

22Tango   May 12th, 2008 8:09 pm ET

This primary election is so slanted by the media, it's not funny. They've declared Obama the winner — and continue to even when Senator Clinton delivers a win. She WON Indiana in a close race but do we complain when our favorite sports team wins by a point or two? Do we toss in the towel at a horse race if the winner "wins only by a nose"? This race is over when people STOP voting for Hillary Clinton. If she WINS tomorrow in Kentucky and West Virginia, give her praise and the recognition she's earned. She's a fighter. She has a lot to prove and fix in the White House. The media just wants a new politician to sell America — a new brand for the cable news grind. Don't buy it. We know nothing about Obama.

Joyce in Florida   May 12th, 2008 8:08 pm ET

Mel in Texas, I can't even think of a single thing that Senator Obama has done for our country. Remember, he just voted "present" over a 100 times. This man cannot make a decision on his own. He is not capable of running our country. Period. I cannot wait to see Hillary Clinton become our nominee. She is the most-qualified candidate to run against John McCain. Another period. GO HILLARY 08!!!!!!!!!!!

Adrian   May 12th, 2008 8:07 pm ET

It's time for a change America!

The American people have accepted so long "those who have power, will do." As we have seen so long, those with power do for themselves.

It's time for a change America!

We have dealt with the wrongs of the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" continue to do just that, have not.

It's time for a change America!

I believe this Democratic race has been great for the party and even I have had an increased sense of awareness of our political future over these past months.

I believe the Democratic Party can unite behind one person and that person I believe is Barack Obama!!!

America, it's time for a change!!!

The O   May 12th, 2008 8:07 pm ET

It's all about the delegates!!!!!!! So don't get to happy Truman….

Ron   May 12th, 2008 8:07 pm ET

While I am an Obama supporter we all need to keep in mind that we need to work together or we are going to lose to McCain in November. We need to stay united no matter which candidate you support at the moment. It's not helpful to say derogatory things about the candidate that you do not support.
Well unless it's McCain I guess :)

kenny cole   May 12th, 2008 8:07 pm ET

kenny from houston support your comment i believe you are absolutely right,we don't need to vote for someone we do not trust HILLARY put me off when she tell lie about snipers fire in BOSNIA,also telling lie to get my vote by lieing about gas tax holiday

bruce   May 12th, 2008 8:07 pm ET

Funny, so, W. Virginia with 12 delegates is now the Great Firewall. I thought that was Texas, ah, like 2 months ago? Another game changer state, WV? Nonsense. Obama blew her out in NC which had 134 delegates while her huge lead in IN going in came out shrunk to a mere 1+% on election night. And now she's going to be saved by a small state with a mere 12 delegates, a state that Democrats have not won since the computer was invented. Talk about being crazy on Day 1.

Maxine   May 12th, 2008 8:06 pm ET

It's a no win situation, she is going to steal this thing one way or another, how are her donations going?

HAWK,TEXAS   May 12th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

MEL IN TEXAS YOU NEED TO STUDY UP. OBAMA IS A FRESHMAN SENATOR. NAME WHAT HE HAS DONE. FLAT NOTHING. HE IS A GOOD SPEAKER BUT SPEAKING DOES NOT COUNT FOR EXPERINCE. HE ALLWAYS SAYS HE IS AGAINST SOME THING. LIKE WHEN HE SAID HE WAS AGAINST VOTING FOR GOING TO WAR. HE COULDNT VOTE AGAINST IT HE WASAN'T IN THE SENATE. HE IS STRICTLY FULL OF HOT AIR. HE HAS NO LEADERSHIP EXPERINCE. I GUESS YOU COULD COUNT REV. WRIGHT.

adam   May 12th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

They'll really be surprised if it ended up being the 80-20 but the exact opposite, Clinton 20 and Obama 80. That would REALLY be surprising. There's nothing surprising about white "hard-working" Americans, who have no education and have blue-collar jobs voting for Clinton. Wow, 80-20 from that crowd calls for noise, man! Wow!

Not.

Lyle   May 12th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

There is a huge divide between Clinton supporters and Obama supporters for a very good reason.

The majority of Clinton supporters believe that she is the right person for the job. In the majority, her support has little to do with her being a woman, a Clinton, white OR a Democrat. This is a problem for Mr. Obama, because he cannot garner nearly as many cross-over, swing and moderate votes as Mrs. Clinton.

The majority of Mr. Obama’s support hinges on the fact that he is not John McCain and he is “different” from any politician we have seen in the past. Well my friends, that is not a formula for success in the general election. Wrong is wrong, and the majority of voters across this country will have a very easy choice if Mr. Obama is the Democratic nominee, they will simply vote for the better person for the job at hand, John McCain.

Willy   May 12th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

Hillary will take out Obammy the hammy

Bill   May 12th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

100 things OBAMA has done……..GO ! GO ! Tell us all what he had done.

EC   May 12th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

MEL in Texas -

Well SAID.

I agree with YOU 150%. We as democrats have to face the reality. I know some of you are Clinton supporter and others are Obama supporters. But this whole primary is NOT about them. It's NOT about YOU or ME. It's about getting a DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT in office!!

This whole process is BIGGER than one supporter or candidate. We need to stop all this bickering and UNITE to defeat Old Man McCain!

Jamaal Kansas   May 12th, 2008 8:04 pm ET

who cares this thing been over Hillary just doesn't know it ,Chelsea could you please tell your mother she has lost! Thank you

Pat   May 12th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

Yea, slick willie the earth will move alright. It will move to swallow up you slick clintons.

John in KY   May 12th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

Come on WV and KY get out to vote for HILLARY so were not stuck with OBAMA as the Dem nominee!! and our state elected officials had best support the candidate of our states governments if they want to remain in office!!
GO HILLARY 08!!

Ray, Venice, CA   May 12th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

West Virginia????…is Hillary really identifying the desire of this country based on WV? …isn't that the state that coined the phrase "Incest is best, put your sister to the test"? I have a few freinds from West Virgina, but I knew them for years before they would admit it….can't say I blame them.

skyjuice   May 12th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

No doubt, she will win by a huge spread tomorrow…but that 80-20 ratio is taking it way too far. At this point, Hillary is making a fine example of cutting off the nose to spite the face.

Obama 08′/12′

Bitter Tommy Hussein in St. Louis   May 12th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

Let her win 80-20 or 90-10. Let her win 100-0, who cares? Then, going by the CNN estimates (which tend to be more generous to Hillary than others), even if she wins all 28 delegates from WV, she's still down by 144 delegates this late in the game. It's hard to change the math.

I see in the other thread where she gives a lot of credit to West Virginia for its supposed influence on the outcome of the primaries, trying to convince us that a Democratic candidate can't win the nomination or presidency without West Virginia's support. Some of the most naive and uneducated voters there will buy into that, and of course, that's the whole point - to get their votes. Well, the reality is, it has very little influence, and whatever happens is going to happen, with or without West Virginia. But since it leans toward her, then all of a sudden it counts for something; in fact, it counts for EVERYTHING, even though it's a small state and previously the argument went that small states don't count for anything.

Kirk   May 12th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

Obama & His Campaign Would Like An Early Close To This historic Primary …. They Want Us To Beleive They Have Won ….. Truth Is They Haven't … Hillary Has The Edge Now , And can Win The Primary !!….. And YES The Math Is In Her Favor !!!!

Obama 's Campaign Is trying To Buy The Nomination …… Nice try Obama ….. Hillary Will NEVER Sell Out The American People … She's A Fighter , She Will Go The Distance And Will WIN The Nomination For PRESIDENT !!!!!

HILLARY 2008″ !!!!!!

Jamie   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

Mel in Texas. What do you mean a war we have no clue we are fighting. Our brave men and women are fighting for YOUR freedom. Your childrens freedom and their freedom. If you don't live living in a country that fights for democracy, why do you stay in this country. People just amaze me when it comes to national security. Obama has to many connections to Hamas.

Teri from Ohio   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

I don't mind Clinton staying in the race, as long as she doesn't hurt Obama. With comments like that she is hurting Obama. She doesn't care about the Democratic Party, she only cares about herself! She's counting on the uneducated people not to understand what she is doing. That's why she gets away with lying & misrepresenting the facts.

Unbelievable   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

For someone who said that the superdelegates shouldn't support the candidate who has the popular vote, she sure is pushing that issue. How many times is she going to change her campaign direction? First only the big states mattered, but now West Virginia is so important with their 28 delegates. The superdelegates should not support Obama simply because he has the popular vote, but now that is all she has to try and cling to. I wish someone would smack her. Her campaign manager is only prolonging this so that he can continue to rake in his 70figure salary. Unbelievable

Darcy   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

Looking at the CNN map by state … Feb 2008 primary.

West Virginia

Huckabee 567 52% 18 100% reporting
Romney 521 47% 0
McCain 12 1% 0
Paul 0 0% 0

McCain could use all the help he will get from dislusioned democrats. He seems to have his own problems there.

Dori in AZ   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

If West Virginia wants her, let her be President of West Virginia. No doubt, at some point, Hillary will say she's got experience mining coal or logging.

francisco   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

Hillary keep campaining till you sink into $200 million dollar debt, you are going to win anything, may be Chelsea should try 2016

Linda   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

Senator Obama has something that Hillary Clinton does not . Obama has character. Since the beginning of this presidential campaign Hillary Clinton has shown us a pattern of her chronic bad behavior. She is full of deceptions and contradictions. I am sorry for the people who believe she cares and are going to vote for her.

Smrt man   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

Sounds like they are getting a little too optimistic…

And they say they will win the popular vote? Do they realize that they need to gain about 700,000 votes on him to do that?

With Obama's sweeping victory in NC, he only went up like 220,000.

All of these states are smaller. Lets see her win the popular vote…

Har Har Har…

Kelvin Higo   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

I am a confused politico junkie in British Columbia and want a few questions answered to help me better understand the presidential primaries.
First, isn't the first person to get to the magic number the democratic presidential candidate? If so how can the Clinton campaign suggest that if Clinton gets to within 100 candidates then it should be the candidate who is the best choice for the November election. How can this be so in a democratic election process. Isn't the person who gets the most delegates the automatic candidate?
Also how can republicans vote in a democratic primary? I see that Rush Limbaugh encouraged republicans to vote in the primaries to promote Cllinton as the democratic candidate- how is this possible?
Also did I hear correctly that Puerto Ricans can vote in the primary but not in the general election? What's the purpose of their vote in the primaries then?
Very confused observer in British Columbia.

Marie   May 12th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

If you think that west virginia is completely blind, I don't think so. They know well that there was three clintons in the state to take who wants at any cost to take back the white house for their own big EGO… Peaoples are aware whats going on. If it's not too late by now, some who understand whats going on will vote for obama, no doubt …

Martin   May 12th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

The definition of a Clinton supporter: Someone who doesn't understand Math or Economics.

Unbelievable   May 12th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

I can't believe this spin monster. Who remembers a couple of months ago when she said that "delegates" are what matters?

Anyone who continues to support this pathological liar and political opportunist is definitely in the group of uneducated supporters she is so proud to have.

ferris_b   May 12th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

There is no way Clinton will win with 80% of the vote. She hasn't won any state with big blow out. If she wins it will be by a small percentage as in 52-58%. Obama has so much momentum, I just don't believe Clinton can rebound and also… people want to be on the winning team.

Just an Opinion   May 12th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

It absolutely blows my mind that Hillary Clinton can call a group of people….the people from W. VA and KY…… poor, stupid, uneducated, racists and they don't care. That would tick me off royally. Although I have never been to either state so maybe she is right. But I find it hard to believe that all blue collar people are the way she portrays them.

deletehillary!   May 12th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

i hope she wins by a much lower margin than is anticipated, as she did in my indiana. we dont need her divisive tactics and lobbing hate with every phrase..we need change from the republican playbook! VOTE OBAMA!!

tammy   May 12th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

i pretty sure i am on ignore my comments never get posted but. her i go. she sould win WV by 100 points and nothing changes. The game is over. please report that CNN stop reporting as if there is still compettition here.

GrannyRyan53   May 12th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

Obama is taking Bill Clinton at his word, because Obama does not need West VA. He has already won this! Hillary can't win. Quit being a sore loser Hillary.

Shelly from WI   May 12th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

I HOPE Obama hasn't forgotten WV, i'm worried this would make people think she's best for President when we ALL know the truth. sigh.

Dougy Giro   May 12th, 2008 7:57 pm ET

I wonder if the media are the only ones who aren't sick and tired of this dog and pony show. Time to get ready for November, Democrats!

cisqo   May 12th, 2008 7:57 pm ET

IT does not matter any more , we already got our nominee we need to come together and move toward general election,I know CNN and their candidate will make this big deal so they can attract many viewer and try keeping drama going!

D.J. Morales   May 12th, 2008 7:56 pm ET

West Virginia and Kentucky may now secede from the union….

E. loz Miami   May 12th, 2008 7:56 pm ET

Being from FL, I am disgusted with the DNC & the Obama camp. I will do everything in my power to make sure I get all my hispanics friends & family to vote for McCain. The DNC has the made an unfair choice to punish the voters in FL, i will never forgive them for that.

deidre   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

HILLARY MAY HAVE ZERO EXPERIENCE AS PRESIDENT….of course, she's never been president. However, you cannot say that and expect people to think Obama has any more experience than she does.

No one truly knows he job before they get there, but some are better prepared.

BTW, I for one am an independent that didn't vote for Obama because of 'they way' he looks. I voted for Clinton because I had more confidence in her. Simple.

pat   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

if you look at the polls she matches up better with mccain the obama does even in the red states that he will win if its obama, maybe mccain won,t win those red states against clinton its possible she is liked in those red states she carried them in the primarys. check it out

John Beatrice   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

McCain/Clinton '2016

Bill   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

Mel in Texas…….. 100 things OBAMA has done for this country.,…………………………? GO !!!!!

Shelly from WI   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

Why isn't this bothering the Obama Camp? grrrr do something immediately, narrow this lead please!

Reality   May 12th, 2008 7:55 pm ET

Doesn't matter, since 60% of Americans consider Hiilary to be untrustworthy, thus rendering her totally unelectable in the general.

It's over, except for the shameless pandering for donations to pay back her huge campaign debts.

Keith R.   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

I think the haters in general speak loudest so let me say this.

WIN LOSE OR DRAW, DEMOCRATS'08!!

I am an avid Obama supporter but I am also a Democrat. Just because I don't agree with some other Demo's doesn't mean I'm going to have animosity toward them.

I welcome the company of the Hillary supporters and hope they welcome my company.

-Keith from AZ (McCain - ugh!)

Carolina Girl   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

If you really want to beat McCain in the fall, then vote for Hillary. Hillary voters will never stand behind Obama if he gets the nomination. However, Obama supporters will rally behind Sen. Clinton. Personally, I would not want McCain or Obama on my conscience, so I will stay home if Hillary does not get the nomination. Obama is just making sure that McCain gets the White House. He knows he will lose against McCain, so why don't the media call for HIM to step down?

sacto joe   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

DEMOCRATS BEWARE!!!

A lot of neo-cons posing as Democrats are posting hate mail. They're trying to drive a wedge between us!

RESIST THE NEOCON HATE MACHINE!

Paul   May 12th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

Im sick of Clinton supporters counting the votes in Michigan and in Florida. Barack wasn't even on the ballot, did you ever think about how many voters were disenfranchised by not letting them vote for Barack, many just stayed at home knowing their vote wouldn't be counted. Stop counting votes that as of now do NOT count towards your popular vote tally.

Now I feel for those that voted and want their votes counted, but by counting theirs it just slaps the other voters in the face that were told the votes were not counting so they never voted. Why not give them a chance. If the clintons want a re-vote, fine, but stop counting them as of now.

Ratgurl   May 12th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

“I wouldn’t be doing this if I didn’t believe I could be the best president for West Virginia…." Yeah, there's her job - President of West Virginia! I bet she'd be a fantastic President of West Virginia. She can hand out with her Deliverance brethren!

Audrey in SF   May 12th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

I agree. Clinton will do magnificently in WV. Perhaps she should go be a senator there?

hamstring   May 12th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

I am one VERY liberal, Gay Marriage, Gay Rights Ammendment, Gay Democrat who has always voted democrate for the last 30 years.

I will NEVER, NEVER , NEVER under any circumsances vote for Obama. No Democrat has yet to advance the causes that I care for so having to vote for McCain to keep Obama out of the white house will not bother me at all. The NObama campaign has begun in earnest here in Louisiana.

If not Hillary '08 then McCain '08

NObama…NEVER

Obama 08:white, female and 60   May 12th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

Obama has lead Clinton in the past four polls…leads by 12% in the latest poll…he is gathering momentum….Clinton said small states don't matter…she changes with every state…not what I want in an American president…democracies depend on people playing by the rules.

Ryan from Indiana   May 12th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

It may not do muych to the delegate count but it will do something for the popular vote count. And that does mean something.

spencer   May 12th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

Vote for Hillary tommarrow in West Virginia………. She's by far the best choice for President…

How sad   May 12th, 2008 7:51 pm ET

I have never visited the good state of WV, but from what I've been reading in the media the population is mostly white, uneducated and racist. And Hillary is proud to be their choice?

Obama   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Hillary 2008. Obama does not have the kind of experience to lead the country.

pat   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

would you please list those thing hes done, naturally she have zero experiance as president , she hasen,t been elected yet but she will an you no she will make a far better president than obama will, your leading with your heart no your brain, stop an think who really cares for this country an always has she is always trying to do better things for us but it seen she can,t win for us because washington shoots her down, if she was president it might be a different story, give obama a few more years then he can run in 2016 an will all support him then will lock this thing up fore a long time.

linda hemmingsen   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

he may be a little excited but i hope he is right and she wins big time!good luck hillary and i hope west virgina comes out in the millions and i hope they support hillary and if they do it shows courage not to just fall in line because the media has declared obama the winner. it is not over till it is over which is what a true democratic election is all about. a canadian who is following the race.

Jeff, Huntington Beach, CA   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

You are all playing into the Republicans hands. Another Bush presidency anyone…?

Carl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, etc, etc, must be laughing themselves sick…

maya   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Mel in Texas - I respect your opinion. No one is trying to take anything away from Obama. Hillary just has a right to run her campaign- it is a close election. She has been ridiculed and marginalized. She has been demanded to drop out many times over these last few months.

Neither has enough delegates to secure the nomination. No one is taking it awayy from Obama. The superdelegates will choose the most electable - just as the rules in the "system" say they can.

kevin from alaska   May 12th, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Well if that's not building up unrealistic expectations… does the Clinton camp know how to NOT shoot themselves in the foot? Cause I haven't seen it yet.

David   May 12th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

Clinton needs better than 85% to start making a dent.

brian bernard   May 12th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

hillary you need to stop acting the way you are like a spoil brat

andrea   May 12th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

sorry Mel but I disagree. Hillary is the better choice. Obama could never have her strength, leadership or presidential qualities.

HFT in Texas   May 12th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

This has gone to far. Some of the people in WV will be voting for the wrong reasons. This is not something we should take for granted - this election will affect our children and grandchildren. Stop thinking about yourselves and think about them. Don't vote just because she is a Clinton or she is a woman and trying to make Senator Obama look bad. I am tired of this nonsense and I am quite sure many more of us are too. Give it a BREAK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave Froyalde/Washington   May 12th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

What a media bias. It looks like no media organization is exited about Senator Hillary Clinton leading Senator Obama by as much as 40% in West Virginia in recent polls. If it is the other way around , we will hear and see all the media organizations including CNN that Senator Obama is leading and is trumpeting that the selection of the democratic nominee is over. All I ask is fairness in reporting. Is that hard for the news media to do?

b   May 12th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

I am an Obama supporter as well, i guess my previous post was not clear.

Truth   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

I wouldn't count my eggs before they hatch!. Senators Clinton and Obama are very capable candidates. If one wins, it does not mean the other has problem. The notion that she is doing while he is not base on one or two elections is pathetic. She always win. Why would tomorrow be any different. Win some lose some game. Move on to May 20, 2008. See what happen!. It is fun to watch!

Eric   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

80-20? Not a chance in hell. The only state that even came close to that for Hillary was Arkansas, which went 70-30. MAYBE WV will go 65-35 for her, but it will probably be even closer than that.

Steve   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

How many 'turning points' can there be?

I would be shocked if she got 80%. There are 600,000+ registered democrats in WV. If she gets 60%, that's 360,000 and Obama gets 30% thats 180,000. She's only gaining 180,000 popular votes. He's currently leading by over 700,000.

After all of the remaining six contests (which they should split), it should end up where it started before WV.

cubanamericanwoman - OC - CA   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

SELFISHNESS, GREED, POWER STRUCK, FEELINGS OF ENTITLEMENT, ETC. ETC. ETC.

ALL OF THOSE NEGATIVE HUMAN TRAITS HRC POSSESSES.

THE WORLD IS AWAITING TO FIND OUT HOW SMART THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE.

YES, WE CAN and WE WILL…..

OBAMA 08 & 12

Brigeite   May 12th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

Whatev.

HILLARY CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER!!   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

OH YEAH!
I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE ODRAMA SUPPORTERS SAY THEN!
WHY CAN'T YOUR GUY WIN THE BIG STATES?
BECAUSE HE IS DISHONEST AND WE DO NOT TRUST HIM!!!!!!!!

GO HILLARY GO!!!!!!!!!

Terry H   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Unfortunately she could win every single vote but the DNC has twisted enough superdelegate arms to rig this race no matter. The REAL democrats need to unite against Obama and clean house while Mccain does what he can for us the next four years. I want Hillary to keep going so the world can see how the DNC is rigging this race. Then I hope she runs independent or keeps campaigning for a write in vote. HILLARY 08!

Wow!   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Hillary is one ugly chick! That pic is aweful. Do the American people really want a President that looks like that?!

spencer   May 12th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

90% - 10%, in Clintons favor..Obama drop out now you will divide the party… I am saying this because i will be one of the divided. Will only support Clinton no matter what….Take that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

b   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

mel,
I am right there with you, but I think we are waiting for the 9th inning to say so. I hope at least. The rest of the primaries all combined cannot help her. I am sorry it has come to this, but it has. The world is watching this don't forget.

Zoey   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

Delusional

DELMARVA   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

polls, schmolls…I know the lead is 40% and the person in the article bragged 80-20 or even 90-10, but how hard will they fall its its not?

DEMS '08 and '12!

marcelo   May 12th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

I'm really dissappointed in some of the data coming out of these two states. Multple polls and interviews show that most of the Clinton supporters in West Virginia and Kentucky are misinformed about Barack Obama. They believe the negative rumors propagated by some very underhanded people saying that Barack isn't a patriot and a long standing Christian.

If Hillary truly believes that she has EARNED the votes of West Virginians and Kentuckians based on her own merits, and she's aware of the prevailent misunderstanding/misinformation about Obama's faith and values by voters, then she should clarify to all her supporters that Obama is a Christian and is a VERY proud American and that they should vote for her based on the issues. I would really respect her as a candidate then.

Ill-informed/misled voters don't equate to a true victory, they are just a sad reason for why this country continues to make poor choices (i.e. IRAQ War)

Merele   May 12th, 2008 7:44 pm ET

i hope she does win by that amount in that backwards, racist state, uneducated state. she deserves them and they deserve her!

Jake, California   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Hillary can win 100-0 it won't make a difference now! It only means that some Americans need more education. Why does voting for a black man have to be such a nightmare to the rural, aged and uneducated folks!
No insult intended here but this is pretty much the demograic that wont vote Obama.

We will seal this deal up with Oregaon and South Dakota, Hillary can have WV and KY

Beverly, NYC   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Even if Hillary wins by 100% she will not be the nominee. If by some miracle she is given the nomination she will not win in November. Too many republicans around who remember Bill's 8 yrs. I am sure there is more dirt on the both of them that the public was ever told about. Keep campaigning Hillary, it's all about you. You have 98 million or so left plus all those hollywood friends, who have been mighty quiet lately, I sure they can kick in the max allowed. You can campaign until McCain or Obama are sworn in, no one will ask you to drop out. Think of the fees you can charge to speak at women's groups about how the boys did you wrong and ruined your chance to be the fist female predisent! IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU!!!

illinois for Hillary   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I can list more than five, ten or 100 things he has done for this country.

I live in Illinois Mel and I can't name one. Instead of telling us that you can list them go ahead and list them.

eric, minnesota   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I just love the fact that Sen. Clinton keeps saying she knows she is the best candidate to run against McCain. Well, there is only one problem with that statement. The American people disagree. Isnt that why we have these primarys. So, people can vote. Clinton keeps saying let the people vote, let the people vote. While at the same time she is trying to get the superdelagates to OVERTURN THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. She is talking out of both sides of her mouth.

couldabeen   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Hillary can be the candidate–and she's the only one to beat McCain.

shannonL   May 12th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I agree. Obama didn't even bother to show up. He doesn't care about WV. The people of WV need to show Obama that they are important too.

Truthiness   May 12th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

Winner takes all makes Clinton the big win
Obama lost America when Wright went wrong in public

Pedeen   May 12th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

Game over! whether Hillary wins 80% to 20% is insignificant!!!. With all respect Sen Hillary STOP DESTROYING DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Swallow your pride unite with the winner and live to fight another day. Let people remember you with the good deeds you have done to the world otherwise you will be remembered as cyclone Hillary who wrecked the Democratic party!!. Go Go Go Mcain!! you are a hero!!!

Former Obama Supporter   May 12th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

Hillary and her supporters will send a message tomorrow. If you all Obama supporters keep saying that Clinton needs to just give up and all these negative comments, what makes you think we are going to join you and vote for Obama? Obama supporters have been more negative then the republicans. I am now thinking about voting for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. Hillary supporters should check out the RNC video on Obama. It is fantastic. I highly recommend it. Obama is inexperienced and he cannot be trusted with so much power.

Sally   May 12th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

Whatever happened to her 35 years of experience?

Oh yea, she doesn't have any experience.

R.U. Kidding   May 12th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

She beats Obama by all these points? On what issues that most Americans face can we attribute such a margin?

lol   May 12th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

hillary wins the core of the democratic party. if the superdelegates and dnc doesn't realize this by now, there is a movement for her to run as an independent. howard dean and nancy pelosi created this mess and divided the democrats. they did nothing for you hillary, take your votes from your loyalist and run independent, you will win!

dwayne   May 12th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

For sake of argument let's say you do win by 80:20. You only have 28 pledged delegates; besides, WV doesn't speak for the rest of country. They speak for themselves.

Oh…that's right only the states that Hillary wins matters. All the other states are just a bunch of little ones that don't matter right? That's why you're losing Billary. The world doesn't revolve around the name Clinton. Get a grip!

Obama '08

Mary   May 12th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

Why is it news that Clinton will win in notoriusly racist places like West Virginia and Kentucky???? Will noone state the obvious! She will win by a large margin because the people that live in those two states do not want a black President…that is the only reason…and for the Clintons to pretend that all of a sudden it is because they like her message or for any other reason then because she is white…well, they sure can spin it. But they can spin it all they want. Who the hell cares about what a racist thinks?

Sad   May 12th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

I've never been to the good state of West Virginia, but the press has been reporting that Hillary will win WV due to a population that is predominately white, uneducated and racist. This is a win she'll be proud of?

edna   May 12th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

West Virginia will mean nothing if Hillary takes all delagates//She's too far off the map.If she was not a Clinton, she would've done like Edwards and bowed out gracefully..

Janet WV for Obama   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

I am from West Virginia and I can tell you that race is a major factor here. Most of these people will NEVER vote for a mixed race person. They are not interested in issues like the economy at all. All they look at is Sen. Obama's race and vote for Clinton. She is in for a real surprise because we will see in the fall that they won't vote for a woman either. They are really behind the times. This week there was a front page story in our newspaper on retaliation for telling where a moonshine still was. I'm not kidding. I support Sen. Obama and I'm not alone, but you won't see bumper stickers or yard signs because these people could possibly harm someone displaying either. Such a shame. It means NOTHING to the rest of the country if Clinton wins here.

Armando Rodriguez   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

please tell Ms: Hilary clinton to Run as Independent so she can win the president Election whit out Delegate and superdelegate, and let Barack Obama deal whit the disgrace Democratic party.

Thank
Armando Rodriguez.

Ostriches burying our heads in the sand   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

Win by 100-0 if you can….sure…it will give Sen. Clinton some bragging rights….but it won't change the reality that slowly but surely Barack is heading towards the finish line and he will be our nominee and he will work hard to beat Sen. McCain in the Fall….And if Dems are smart and farsighted they won't let McCain sneak into the White House…

R-J   May 12th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

How many non whites are there in WV, what is their percentage to the general population?
How many non white Federal senators and representatives are there in WV and their percentages to the total?
How many non white State senators and representatives are there in WV and their percentage to the total?

An American in Canada for David   May 12th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

THESE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES ARE NOT A FORGONE CONCLUSION, THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THIS RACE.

I THINK IT IS VERY UNFAIR THAT SUPER DELEGATES ARE TRYING TO PURSUADE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE THEY SUPPORT.

THE REMAINING STATES, THAT WILL HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE, ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT OBAMA AND CLINTON’S POLICES AND SOLUTIONS AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT CLINTON AND OBAMA THEN THEY DO ABOUT MCCAIN.

HILLARY R. CLINTON WON FLORIDA WITHOUT EVEN ADVERTISING IN THAT STATE, SO EACH STATE HAS PRETTY MUCH MADE UP THEIR MINDS ALREADY WHOM THEY ARE GOING TO SUPPORT.

SORT OF A LOT LIKE THESE BLOGGS, NO ONE CHANGES ANY PERSONS VIEW POINT WITH THEIR NEGATIVE COMMENTS.

Paula   May 12th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

Well no one really gives a rat's rear end how many votes Hil get, the DNC's rules implicitly state that the nomination is decides by delegates, period, end of story.

Candi California   May 12th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

After W. Va. and Ky Clinton can spin that she is a victim and retire back to the Senate. He is giving her a chance to leave gracefully but if she does not then she is toast.

FRED Atlanta, GA   May 12th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

WELL SAID MEL IN TEXAS!!!!! WELL SAID!!

OBAMA 08/12 YES WE CAN and YES WE WILL

Edward, Michigan   May 12th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

I am praying that something will happen to turn the tide into Hillary's favor. She is the candidate that is most ready for the job and she is the one who can beat McCain. I never voted republican but I will have to if Obama will get the nomination, and so will a lot of people in my community. GO HILLARY!!!!!

GCG - Austin, TX   May 12th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

Absolutely delusional. 80% doesn't make a difference. This race is about DELEGATES, it always has been. Anyone trying to change the rules is just that: trying to change the rules!!!

The rules were agreed to BY EVERYONE before the racing started. It is not a case of someone "stealing" the election from someone else. It is all about the delegates and the delegate math. It is not about the popular vote and it is not about how big you might win a particular state, or which state you win. It is about the delegates and that's ALL that matters, everything else is continued pandering to the electorate.

eddie p.   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

after the butt kicking Obama is subjected to in West Virginia!! I want to hear what CNN-, FOX and other networks have to say. I wonder if the will say Obama Gets tail end Wipped in West Virginia. Or will they just simply state that he lost .

james   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

If Hillary is so "electable", why are the Republicans working to get her nominated? And, they are.
If the shoe was on the other foot, Obama would have dropped out a few weeks ago.

H3 / NC   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

Good bye Hillary

ronald   May 12th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

We should be ashamed if she dowsnt win WV by at leat 60-40

Terp08   May 12th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

Mel in Texas - well said. I couldnt say it any better!!

marianna   May 12th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

I'm leaving my town for November election and will make sure to send in an absentee balot with Hillary voted on, or added by hand for that matter.

Melvin   May 12th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

Yes! Obama 08 but I will vote Hillary and not McCain!
Cali in the house!

Den   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

So what if she wins WV and Ky. They are both Republican states. She wouldn't win them in the fall. Hillary has showed she's willing to do a torch and burn strategy. She's not interested in anyone's welfare but her own. The Clintons can't stand the fact they are losers. To those Clinton supporters who claim Obama has stolen the nomination, give me a break. You're all showing what true narrow minded hypocrites you are. As an Independant, either Obama or McCain will be a far better choice than Hillary. I hope the era Clinton sleazy politics is gone forever.

Enlightened Voter   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

I predicted it before the race even started that Obama with his positive message would be president and so far doesn't look like I am wrong. There are so many enlightened people, (black, white, asian, spanish and others) that are voting for him. His message is resonating with almost everyone except those UNenlightened people who want to keep the status quo. But the beautiful thing is that GOD, the universe, whatever you want to call it will have the last word.

clueless   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

the Obama supporters think this wins him more votes:
Doom. May 12th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

calling the things in West Virginia people is really stretching it don't you think?

Kevin   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

We are not going to put an inexprinced person in the White House. If Clinton wins the popular vote, she should be the nomonie. Period. Enough of Obama people thinking they are entitled to something they are not.

Venus   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

It's OK. if she wins big in WV - those are the people we will pick up in Nov/08! And, it's OK. - remember - Hillary have some states she will do very well in - same as Obama!

Obama is focus on Mc Cain and the GE!

When Obama picks his VP - probably Mr. Hagel - and we have started the 50-state vote - the Dems will be fine and will win in Nov/08!

gerald strother   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

HER IS A REAL POLL West Virginia Democratic Presidential Primary
West Virginia: Clinton 56% Obama 27 BY RASMUSSEN TO DAY

A.M.   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

110 to -10, WHO CARES!

You think we are as stupid as you want us to be, West Verginia voters are not dumb and naive either, Hillary. West Verginia voters are smart, they will support 'Obama' overwhelmingly, you just watch! These voters from West Verginia are not prejuidists as you want them to be, to them America is not 'Black and White' to them America is "United States of America", like Obama keeps reminding us.

A.M.
Houston, Texas

Bubba Girlfriend   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Bubba drove to Kentucky to vote in the West Virginia primaries…..hahahahahah

Game changer

ocanada   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Poor Mrs. Clinton. If she is the stronger candidate, why hasn't that been proven by now, and why has her opponent doubled her across the country in states won? There are 50 states, Mrs. Clinton, not just big white ones, and the presidential election includes all of them. It appears that your appeal is localized.

Do you think this wins over voters?   May 12th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Doom. May 12th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

calling the things in West Virginia people is really stretching it don't you think?

Chris Portland, OR   May 12th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

Wow - I can see why you ignore the previous persons posts alot. More incoherent rambling from an Obamamaniac.

Antonio   May 12th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

let the clintonbots strike begin…

1865   May 12th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

Who cares if she hits a 3 pointer after the buzzer?

Shirley, Silicon Valley, CA   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

This woman is just such a DISGRACE! Her days are numbered!

Dawn   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

But according to Hillary, small states don't matter. So this is irrelevant.

David, Santa Rosa, CA   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Is this all just media hype? Does anyone, other than a few enthusiastic supporters, believe that HRC has any chance at all?

C'mon Democrats, it's time for us to come together and focus our efforts on the General Election and McCain and also taking back the senate.

Real Obama supporters don't have time to gloat. We're too busy doing what we can to make change happen starting with the White House and Congress. As the Clinton campagin says, we can't just "hope" change into being.

Please supporters on both sides…. let's get past this quickly. Some time is needed to heal, but not too much time is left.

Seat Florida and Michigan   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Seat FL & MI based on the elections that have taken place.
(Obama does not get MI 55 uncommitted).
Required: 2208.5
Current Obama lead: 52.5

Doug, WV   May 12th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Obama/Webb 08

Clinton supporters are drinking too much Kool-Aid. However, with limited money there will be no more Kool-Aid, therefore we will have lots of Junkies running around.

I hope McCain can afford to give them new Kool-Aid. Or they can come to Obama's Rehab Center.
Obama will bring change to Washington. No more Kool-Aid. CHANGE

OBAMA 08

Chut Pata   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

… with the help of republicsn who are not going to vote for you in GE?

gerald strother   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike in pa   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

Mel in Texas.. you DO realize that Obama ALSO has ZERO experience as President, right?? So does McCain. Your comment doesn't make any sense.

smokesignals   May 12th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

Stupid is as stupid does.

These two primaries may slow Obama's momentum a bit, but it says a lot for the dumbing of America, when they ignore the lies "under sniper fire" that Hellary's campaign have so negatively wrought on the public.

She's doing a grave disservice to the nation and to all the young people who have finally taken an interest in a candidate with character.

Go Obama.

RickytheGriff   May 12th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Thank you, CNN for your endless support of Hillary Clinton. I love how you hardly ever run a positive article on Obama!

Now, some people might call you biased, but I say that's just silly! You know a winner when you see one… and, let's face facts, when she becomes president, she'll need a Fox News-like channel… and you're doing a fine job of living up to their high standards.

Hillary 08