May 17, 2008
Posted: 05:15 PM ET

From
Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.
Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

LORETTO, Kentucky (CNN) — Wrapping up a rally at the Maker's Mark bourbon distillery on Saturday, Hillary Clinton again argued that she leads Barack Obama in the popular vote and attacked the television "punditry" that has suggested the race is over.

"All those people on TV who are telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should just be graceful and say, 'Oh it's over' even though I've won more votes - those are all people who have a job," Clinton told supporters picnicking in the gardens of the distillery.

"Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for."

"They keep telling me to quit," said Clinton. "I don't know, maybe I was just raised with the kind of values you were raised [with]. You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started and you don't quit on America."

Clinton has recently been claiming a lead over Obama in the popular vote, a debatable claim, especially because the Democratic National Committee doesn't count the votes of Florida and Michigan, which Clinton does.

Both states were disqualified by the DNC for bringing forward their primaries.

CNN's official count — including all primaries and caucuses but neither Florida nor Michigan — has Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes.

Clinton also argues that looking at the electoral map for the general election, she has won states with more electoral votes than Obama has.

"If you look at the states [Democrats] have to win, if you look at the big states, and you look at the swing states, I am the stronger candidate," she said.

Before her rally, Clinton toured the distillery and tried her hand at sealing a bottle of Maker's Mark, donning protective gear and dipping the bottle into a vat of the famous red wax. She remarked that she didn't realize every bottle is sealed by hand.

This wasn't Clinton's first brush with whiskey on the campaign trail.

She famously took a shot of Crown Royal during a bar stop in Indiana but despite her surroundings on Saturday, she didn't indulge.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Kentucky


Lisa   May 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

I was raised with the values that you pay your bills when due.

Jeanne   May 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

She might as well finish the race. I just hope, at that point, when all the states have voted, that she will concede the election.

DY   May 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, the Democratic party WILL NOT get my vote in November.

I will give my vote to McCain. If the superdelegates want to ignore the swing state votes along with Michigan, and Florida, they will lose more than just my vote. They will lose HALF of all Hillary supporters to the GOP.

This is a FACT!!!

Allison Marie   May 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Go Hillary Go,

I guess it's over Obama's heading home.

Go Hillary Go!

Joe   May 17th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Only 110 more delegates to go for Obama until that lying flip-flopper's time of day is over.

Liz   May 17th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

The popular vote doesn't count, remember?? Especially in the GOP run Florida. Just ask Al Gore. It would be interesting to see how the Democrats would be finding some way to count the votes if the tables were turned and it was Obama looking for some fair way to end this. It is also worth noting that an offer was made for a revote which Obama turned down, of course. The Democrats will be wishing they had done it all differently come November.

NO-BAMA   May 17th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

KEEP FIGHTING FOR US HILLARY !

WE WON'T LET YOU DOWN :)

WE ARE AT FULL FORCE, SENATOR!

OREGON
4
HILLARY

Linda   May 17th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Since you always manage to leave me in moderation, I might as well say what I think! My mother always taught me that if you couldn't say something good about someone, say nothing at all. Why is CNN constantly picking on Hillary Clinton? When President Bush made another of his blunders this week, CNN and MSNBC jumped on him for attacking Obama. I never heard him even mention Obama's name. I thought he was referring to Pres. Jimmy Carter. Whatever happened to the CNN I looked so forward to watching every morning before going off to work???? My husband lost count of the times Obama's name was mentioned yesterday in a 5 minute period. Fair and Balanced!! Whatever happened to reporting the news and leaving the people to draw their own conclusions. Now place me in moderation as you do every day that I leave a comment.
Linda in Southern Indiana!

John, Miami, FL   May 17th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Tv Pundits have done the greatest diservice to America, they way they stack the odds give people jobs to confuse people is shamful and sad. I'v seen more lies reported on cnn, mrsnbc then you would find in a fairy tale. It's absolutly disrespectful, inconsiderate and disgusting.

LT for Obama   May 17th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Okay, she is going to keep saying she is ahead in the popular vote.

This is called disenfranchisement for four states that held caucuses, honey. You are not ahead in the popular vote so stop grasping at straws that are not there.

Brad IL.   May 17th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Maybe the DNC needs to think of the 17 mil. wotes she does have. Just think what this race is going to look like with John McCain and Borock Obamie. If ( and I pray ) only half of her supporters vote Republican , he will ( Borock ) lose. Hopefully John can get a larger share of these votes. No posting from CNN.

gary   May 17th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

THATS ALRIGHT . NOV. WONT SAVE OBAMA EITHER. WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND. ALL THE HATE FROM THE O.B. SUPPORTERS WILL LET US CLINTON SUPPORTERS HAVE THE LAST LAUGH. MC CAIN LOOKS BETTER FOR US EVERYDAY. WE CANT AFFORD A GREENHORN WITH NO TRACK RECORD OF HELPING ANYONE IN OUR COUTRY. THE O.B. SUPPORTERS , CLINTON HATERS AND MEDIA RUINED OUR ONLY CHANCE FOR REAL CHANGES. HRC LOOSES WE ALL LOOSE. TIME FOR US CLINTON SUPPORTERS TO SETTLE THE RACE. OBAMA HAD A FREE RIDE FROM THE SUPER DELIGATES AND MEDIA THROUGH THIS WHOLE RACE. HRC WINS A STATE ,O.B. GETS ENDORSE WITH SUPER DELIGATES. HOW FIXED CAN A RACE BE. WE WILL PREVAIL IN NOV. NO OBAMA

Obama 08   May 17th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Poor girl! I understand her agony. Nobody wishes to lose, nobody wishes to fall, nobody wishes to die.
But It is necessary to make it beautifully.
H. Clinton knows it and undersand it, she`s not stupid but her ego is biger than her mind.
I supported her and now I am going to vote for B. Obama

today   May 17th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Doesn't matter what comes out of this this,the people voted and they should be counted, it's not the peoples fault that voted,When they disqualify there votes they are disqualifying the people,totally unfair.It will never be a fair election. if they disregard their votes.

fredi   May 17th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

I'm getting tired of the "I have the most votes" lie!
Even if we count all the votes in Florida and Michigan which Hillary herself said we shouldnt. Over 700,000 more votes were cast against Hillary than for Hillary. And what aout the popular vote in the caucus states Obama won? Hillary may be the most experienced and "capable" candidate but she has NO INTEGRITY.

Ben   May 17th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

What is going on? One day she is gracefully slwing down, the next day she is pushing Barack's *percieved* weak spots. She does one just lone enough to calm down the pundants and then the other just long enough to grab headlines. She needs to quit this down spiral.

Michael Kirksville MO   May 17th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Sorry fellow dems, but as it appears the media and their created Obamabots have picked Barry to be the nominee, this life-long dem will be voting McCain in Nov. At least he is, at some level, qualified to lead. It is indeed ashame. Senator Clinton - the most qualified American in generations to lead this country in its moment of need -yet we bow to the media syndicate and allow its pundits to text message their vote in for the next "American Idol" winner. Alas, Obama is an empty suit and an absolute disgrace. He has proven himself time and again to be racist, sexist, and a pathological liar.

Millions and millions of fellow dems will be voting as independents this Nov. to make certain Obama does not win the presidency. If you think this a bogus claim, think again. And mark my words, we will see to it that he does not make it to the presidency. This is not about party loyalty, this is about doing the right thing for our country, our future. No one is more qualified on the political stage right now than Senator Clinton. WRITE HER IN OR VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!! Either way, NO AMERICAN IDOL WINNER - NOBAMA!!!!

Nick   May 17th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Isn't it the ultimate act of condescension to continue feeding your supporters illogical arguments (e.g. popular vote lead) and expect them to believe it? It's like Hillary does not find her supporters capable of basic reasoning.

Sam   May 17th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Hillary,

We love you. You have done a lot for the American people.

Barack will be the nominee though.

We can not allow a 3rd Bush term to commence;
failed foreign policies, failed economy policies,
submission to the special interests,
cow-boy diplomacy, kids being killed by guns, whether its on the war-front or on the home-front.

Democrats UNITE

DO NOT let the right-wing media such as Faux news, poison you against Barack Obama.

How many more soliders must perish in Iraq.

4061 US dead and counting, not to mention countless innocents.

MOST OF THEM died AFTER Baghdad was captured… most died after "Mission Accomplished"

Keeping troops in there till even 2013 will result in many more dead.

UNITE behind Obama.

Oh and by the way…. If Hama endorsed Obama… doesnt that mean National security will be better?? lol… If they like him? that means terrorists are less likely to attack?

joe m.   May 17th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

clinton may want to stock up while at that distillery. she may need that stiff drink when reality finally catches up with her.

Observer   May 17th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

HRC can handly cope with the blunt facts. I feel sorry for her, though. But on the other hand, the presidency is not a monarchy. Lossing is loosing and she cannot keep changing the rules and moving the goal post. She needs to practice good ecomomic sense and start settling all her debts.
How can we trust her with arguably the biggest ecomony on earth, when she cannot even manage the finances of her campaign! I just don't get! Balance your check book first - HRC.

Otto   May 17th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

With due respect Senator Clinton; you ran a good race, you kept the faith but your totals are off the mark.

I am happy you have toned down your attacks but you have also help to harden Senator Obama's resolve.

You are a fighter, no bones about that and your supporters respect you for that. There are different calculators but yours seem not able to do math.

Ryan   May 17th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Man does it bother any of the clinton supporters that she continues to be blatently misleading with this whole, "I've won more votes" thing? She clearly has not. She's lying. What other word is there for it?

glhf   May 17th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Hillary…he's leading by 80,000 even with Michigan and Florida and excluding the uncommitted votes from Michigan…so please stop damaging the democratic party and just…drop out.

gp   May 17th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

It is sick how she always makes those spins- presenting to be loyal to values of finishing what started as her virtue but actualy is totaly based on poor judgement and she should BE RESPONSIBLE for misleading all those poor peple that still listen what she has to say.Her morality is soooooooooooo problematic .She knows that she is out but stil manipulates voters and even ask them to pay her for that . It is so sick that she is even speaking of hard working people sacrifising $$$ so she can keep her milions….fuj

Bubba   May 17th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Uhhhhhhhhh….it's over Hillary.

Bill   May 17th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

I wish the press attending these functions where Hillary goes off the deep end would call her on her lies — she is NOT leading in popular vote and she is lying when she characterizes ALL Obama supporters as being well off. How stupid does she think the people of Kentucky are?

jimmy   May 17th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Hillary, no matter what happens your supporters WON'T FORGET what really happened.

The MOVEMENT is on….
McCain '08 for Clinton '12
Obama, well, NEVER!!!

obama double speak   May 17th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

After this year's election is over, the DNC leaders should help conduct elections in Zimbabwe and Algeria. They routinely don't count votes there as well and are experts at reporting false numbers. After Obama gets blown away in November, the DNC leadership will have lots of free time anyway.

Obama 08: 60, white female   May 17th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Clinton is only winning if:
1. They count the votes that were cast against the rules she endorsed and in fact supported up until she was losing South Carolina

2. They do not count the votes cast in the caucsses.

3. They change the rules that pledged delegates do not determine the winner.

4. They only count the votes cast in large states and swing states.

Those aren't the values I was brought up with and certainly not the way a democracy flourishes: through clearly established rules.

Rachel   May 17th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

Good for her! The media acts like they are kings this election season. They get to make the rules. They decide who they want to win. They decide what is offensive and what isn't. It's disgusting.

HILLARY 08

clinton now obama   May 17th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

I am glad that Senator Clinton is foregoing the negative campaigning, but her math is just too shady. She can't be serious. What about the Caucus states that Obama has won that don't track popular votes. He has won double the states and running against another dem is much different than running against the Repubs in Nov. Our Democratic party will come together to make certain that we don't have a 3rd Bush term with McBush.

faye, NV   May 17th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

Hillary when you first started you were the one I would vote for. However, being a hardball woman does not make you better or less, it the I don't care what I have to do to get the job.

Very negative and you even made racist comment. At one point I surely thought the N—- Word was about to come out of your mouth.

I feel that somewhere along the line this race became all about you and not so much the people. I lost all respect for you, the Clinton's. But I am a Dem and will vote Dem even if it is you. Women should always act as a lady and not a bully. In the meantime, continue to act graceful and not poor me, whimpering, or the attitude I am better then.

Tony   May 17th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Please do not qit. I will vote for no one but you or John Mccain.

Lawrence, a person of conscience   May 17th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Hillary? You did not win more votes. Any fool knows this.

Itoldyouso   May 17th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

How can anyone support a candidate that cannot even add? Don't count the caucus votes, give Clinton all the Michigan and Florida delegates, and don't count the delegates where the states begin with the letter "I" - this is HRC's formula for throwing out the will of the MAJORITY of the voters so she will be the nominee.. She is disgusting!

Griff   May 17th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

The Race is over, when you walk…He's a Failure without, and the Democrat's know that…l But they will not listen till you Walkkkkk….

Derek   May 17th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

i think her point is regardless of dnc politics, more people have cast their votes for her by selecting her name on a ballot than anyone else. i'd think cnn could at least understand the difference between that and the political "official" count. but, then again, i think cnn wants to stick to the delegate count and the populace count that supports delegates. the difference between being for the people by the people and a successful media campaign, i suppose.

Chris in SC.   May 17th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Hillary,
You may call it "quitting", but you can also look at as accepting reality! The more you try to spin the reality, the more you sound like a foolish, out of touch republican.

CW

TonyNJ   May 17th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Since childhood my parents, mentors and teachers always stated that our nation was a Democracy. In a Democracy, every citizen's vote counts. Why are the votes cast by the citizen's of Florida and Michigan primaries Not counted. Brave men and women are fighting a war to maintain our rights as a Democracy. Many of these brave men and women have given their lives or suffered disability fighting the war to maintain our Democracy. Since Florida and Michigan remain part of these United States of America, having sent citizens to fight for our Democracy, the votes of the citizens of Florida & Michigan should be counted and not discounted by the Democrat party.

Terry Ann   May 17th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

I'm not a Hillary supporter but I agree with her on this.

Joe Reg   May 17th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

This is what you like to do.

Keep on campaigning in the fantasy state of my.

Sean B   May 17th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

It seems that for eight years we have complained about the fuzzy math of the Bush presidency. We repeatedly hear the Clinton campaign complain that Obama is out of touch with reality… Now here we see a combination of fuzzy math and being out of touch with reality. For a week they have been claiming a lead in the popular vote - but they seem to be the only people who see it.

This is only serving to hurt the party as Clinton's supporters follow her down this delusional path. In the end, she should be educating her supporters on why it only serves to hurt democracy when people throw their vote away on an unregistered write-in candidate. She should be working to keep her supporters on the democratic side of the fence, and realize that she is only ruining her own image. She has a very strong group of supporters, but they pale in comparison to Obama supporters.

Obama not only has his base, but also a very large share of independent votes. As a young American, I am personally quite offended by members of the baby boom claiming that only the young people who don't know better are willing to vote for Obama. Which is funny - because as it seems they were the ones who elected richard Nixon and George Bush.

It's time for change and an answer that makes sense. We can't carry on to the next generation by maintaining the status quo. We need hope, we need vision, we need someone who can make a difference. We need the intangibles that will re-energize our nation. We are on the edge of history, and we can achieve the impossible.

Yes We Can.

A.J. Edge   May 17th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

CNN PLEASE POST THIS…
AMEN! This race is NOT over and Florida and Michigan should be seated! I've heard the media and other political folks spin it as LOTS of people didn't go out and vote in those two states because they knew the votes didn't count… OH REALLY? Interesting when you compare the number of people who voted in the 2004 primaries in those states vs. 2008. Michigan had 433,271 MORE voters (an increase of 269% over 2004) go out in 2008 and vote, and Florida had 971,545 MORE voters in 2008 (an increase of 136% over 2004) go out and vote. DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

Oh, and Obama REMOVED his name from the Michigan ballot, he should NOT get the Uncommitted votes there as a punishment for saying Michigan was not worthy of having his name on the ballot BUT he could leave his name on the ballot in Florida.

Hillary is leading in the popular vote (even though that didn't matter for Gore in 2000 - it SHOULD matter today.)

HILLARY 2008! This is far from over!

David   May 17th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

She is not up to reality check. So we have to give her some couple of weeks maybe months to come in terms of the reality.

Be Honest   May 17th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Only you Mrs Clinton think you are ahead in Votes ,You are NOT also
Sen. Barack Obama picked up the endorsement of a Maryland superdelegate Greg Pecoraro Saturday .
It`s over and you know it !!!!

Blackwoman, Ohio   May 17th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Hillary Supporters lets stick together…

we are over 47% of the democratic party and many of us live in swing states that will be crucial in Nov.

we can decide who wins in Nov. !!!

we cant just accept obama or mcCain we must continue to fight for someone better !!!

Molly   May 17th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

GO HILLARY - Keep FIGHTING - MILLIONS SUPPORT & VOTE for YOU!
Obama is NOT Qualified - he ignores states he cannot win - like WV and now KY - maybe he should go there and ask for a vote or two - might need them if he is the nominee. ARROGANT!
Obama will never be elected with his WEAK and very questionable background.
Hillary CLinton is our only hope to win the White House.

HILLARY or McCain NEVER obama

Bob   May 17th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

This woman is so delusional I don't even know why she hasn't been locked up yet.

Lori   May 17th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

GO HILLARY! Don't ever quit. Quitters never win and winners never lose, no matter the outcome.

annie   May 17th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

KEEP GOING HILLARY - OUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!!!

Puck   May 17th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

Oh Hillary…

There are PLENTY of people who are telling you to quit
who DON'T have jobs, who DON'T have healthcare,
who CAN'T afford to send their kids to college or pay
"whatever" at the gas pumps.

And stop spreading these ridiculous tales about how you're
leading in the popular vote. Repitition does not equal truth.

But, you said it yourself - you're "not running to be a champion
for the people who are telling you to quit." Very well.

That is a clearly disrespectful thing to say to people who's
votes you will need in the general election should you somehow
win the Democratic nomination.

Which you won't.

Manish Verma   May 17th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

After travelling so far in campaign and so close Mrs Clinton seems to be finding it hard to quit. She is emotionally attached to the decision of quitting while pundits are not. Waiting for two to three weeks more should not be a problem if the campaigns do not indulge in negativity at all keeping party first.

Mary Sue Bennett   May 17th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

If Obanna doesn't get the nomination it certainly won't be the fault of the media. From the beginning Senator Clinton has been discounted by the major media, and according to the media Obanna is already crowned the nominee. Regarding Michigan and Fliorida, you and I have heard Dean say those states will no doubt be seated at the convention. If Clinton makes a slight misstatement it is breaking news. I haven't seen any comment recently about Mrs. Obanna's statement about first time she has been proud of USA. I admire Obanna but feel he can't be elected. Here in Texas and other places I fear he won't beat McClain. I just wish you people could wait and see what happens at the end. I've been a loyal CNN person for years, but now I can do as well on Fox News. I'm disappointed, but guess you're just trying to keep up with them.

bill pike   May 17th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

lier's poker???? just when you think it's safe to go back into the water, hillary shows up.

cathy   May 17th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

I saw the quote "they keep telling me to quit", and thought maybe it was directed at the senator's drinking—-she certainly seems to spend a lot of time around whiskey.

JERRY   May 17th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

MAYBE THEY WILG GIVE HER A FEW BOTTLES TO GO. SHE WILL NEED IT WHEN HE GETS THE NOMINATION.

Ryan, New York, NY   May 17th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

I love Maker's Mark. This disappoints me.

No wonder they support her, though, as watching her campaign and refusal accept reality is causing me to increase their profits.

Marsh   May 17th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Hillary is ahead of obama, and just because cnn is in the toliet for obama dont make him ahead. all the male pundits act like a bunch of little google eyed school girls ever time they see obama

irma   May 17th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Hillary is the stronger candidate with the most popular votes. We can have this argument over and over, but I can't help but notice that no matter how effective Hillary's support arguments, they are always out done by the media powers who get to voice their opinions and influence millions while cutting out millions…I remember when you all did the same for George W. Bush. This will more than likely not post as none of my pro Hillary comments seem to make it on.

mario   May 17th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

shame on you CNN , she was right , i dont now what this "This wasn't Clinton's first brush with whiskey on the campaign trail." impute , you are trying to say that she is drinker :(( shame on you CNN , Sha is telling facts as they are, she is more electable and she is ahead in popular vote , now in small margin but after all primaries she will have big lead , did you notice that she was close in may 13 nebraska nonbising primary and in washington for jut 3 percent and in caucus obama get elegates , remember oregon south dakota and montana are primaries and you will se how srtong is Clinton , you media are so bitter. You are not deciding who is nominee , PEOPLE ARE DECIDING , post my memo .

california for Hillary and proud of it..   May 17th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

as I said before, Hillary will win this race, all the way to convention. I still don't know obama to this day. how can anybody vote for that? explain it to me! I believe in real change. we need a woman for a president, that is real change. obama is not the person we can trust. washington d.c. are full of human elements, powerful and many dirty tricks under their sleeves and if you don't have the experiences, they'll sweep anyone under the rags, out of mind and out of sight!. everythings obama said and about his promises, are all fairy tales. I listen and vote every four years, all their statements sounds o.k. from truman to this present president, they seem to ran out of action. at least, during the clinton years, I some what blessed with all bill clinton personal activity, our country was well off and jobs are plenty, monies are flowing well. our country was out of financial debts. I can only tell you, hillary will do the same for us today. so with that, I rather vote for her and respectfully admired her toughness because she care and love america. I know I can depend on her and not like the obama which I respectfully like but, not his for going conclusion, that he will bring better change. I know he will not deliever well.

Tyler in Raleigh, NC   May 17th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Way to go Clinton…. and then you wonder why the media is hard on you? Perhaps like the voters in caucuses which you do NOT COUNT in your claim to be ahead in votes, you bash them and their opinions because they do not fit into your America.

You drink your Crown Royal (what says blue collar America more than a Canadian whiskey aftter all?) and meet hard working Americans for the first time in your life and now you claim to be one.

Its about as true as your claims on NAFTA and sniper fire.

mario   May 17th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Hillary 2008 or 2012 , maybe 2008 as independent , it is only choice , barack hussein obama and his sweeite as can go home in illinois and first finish elected term as senator, he want to be president with 3 years in senate hahahahaha, and he want to be president of 57 states , why Cnn didnt you make story about that , noooo , you are part of conspirancy which obama is leading , or you are brain washed people . post my memo

Jimmy   May 17th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

What is up, take away their delegates, but do not tell these great people of Florida and Michigan that they do not count.

Take away their Delegates I do not care. But do not take away a vote from an American Citizen. That is Intolerable.

rose, texas   May 17th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

u'r right about all those people hillary, they have no respect 4 anybody, they r obama supporters that's why they want u 2 quit. hope that u keep going we need u….u'r still in my prayers.

ay   May 17th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

I hope she is on senate payroll, She could use this valuable time to help the American people. ……………

ali khales   May 17th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

go on hillary, the race is not yet over. clinton is ahead in the popular votes and according to the electrol map she is the strongest candidate who can win in the fall…..

Tony, Mount Vernon, NY   May 17th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

How does the popular vote stand counting Florida and Michigan CNN? Why not inform your audience about that? Those people may not be given delegates but there's no denying that they voted so why shouldn't they be counted in the popular vote? Let's have some objective reporting on Clinton for a change! Why not write an item about how Obama is winning because he has the support of politicians who are ready to tell the people that our votes don't count?

Deezy   May 17th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Hillary you are not leading in popular vote!!!!

Mary   May 17th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

If they have to be counted split them fifty fifty make another split and give each of them one fourth of a half. This will serve as punishment as well as making sure they both are treated fairly. To give her more would be wrong. She knew they wouldn't be counted. She has to abide by the rules also.

Andrew   May 17th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

There's no denying that she's a fighter.

bizarre   May 17th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Champion for whom? …and those folks are buying into it.

KevinPenn Sr Alabama [Teamsters Local 402]   May 17th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Billary it's time to wake up from sleepwalking and smell the truth.You are looking more pitiyful each day. Look at yourself don't burn down all your bridges.

Jim   May 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

The DNC wants Obama to be the nominee so they're just letting Hillary float while Florida and Michigan are still waiting to be recognized.

The superdelegates should accept their responsability to guide the party in the right direction there where victory lies.

SUPERDELEGATES MOVE!!!

Time to swing this nomination to Hillary and we'll all come out winners in November!

Cheryl in Augusta   May 17th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Thanks for the clarity Hillary - I have a job, healtcare and will find a way to pay for college and gas no matter the price so I guess that means you don't want my vote.

Aaron   May 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Isn't Clinton only ahead in the popular vote if you ignore caucus results, and count Florida and Michigan (when people didn't even have the option of voting for Obama)? Dishonesty must come easier to her than breathing.

R.O.B.   May 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

You're wrong Hillary, I have and can do all of those things you mentioned. And I want you to go ahead and gracefully bow out. Then start attacking the Republicans.

lol   May 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

hillary is right about the pundits. tim russert should be fired for declaring the race over. msnbc has the most biased, and sexist political commentators. stay in the race hillary. you are a champion for the blue collar voters. go to hillary's website, and sign the petition to include the millions who voted in FL and MI.

Sylvia Johnsen   May 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Love you Hillary! Stay in there, you are fundamentally right, stay right. And do the right thing! No shameless deals, no strange arguments on delegate splits for Michigan and Florida, and you are right. Then you cannot loose…

Esther from Cuyahoga Falls Ohio   May 17th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

just like cigarettes we should not have ads for alcohol or prescription medication she will have us all on prozac if she get into the white house

Phillip Bunn , Bailey NC   May 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

She should have taken the drink and then jumped up on the table and stripped. That is the only thing she hasn't tried to clinch the nomination.

Victor in NC   May 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

You should have a taste.. You know you like to drink! An I am not taking about water

Bridgette   May 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Hilary the race is over. You fought a good fight but it's over. Now you are not looking like a fighter just like a person who does not have a clue. I know all of the women who are supporting you don't want to accept the fact I know I am one, but, ladies let's accept it it's over. Whether you vote for McCain or Obama is up to you, but, you won't be voting for Hilary in the general.

Tex   May 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Hillary has gone from delusional to simply insane! She is the only one who thinks that she is ahead. I am no longer even angry at her anymore, I just simply feel sorry for the woman. Poor Hillary. Tick Tock Tick Tock, the clock is winding down for her and Obama only needs 121 delegates which he will get next week.

Obama 08 and 12

fred   May 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

Go Hillary!!

We all know who you count the vote for CNN…have been totally biased for Obama since day 1. I hope he loses his butt!!!

muffy   May 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

Poor Hillary she is as delusional as Bush, we surely don't need another president like that.

Obama is such a brilliant, statesman and so gentlemanly. I know the rest of the world is waiting as I am for him to become our leader.

Bill in Illinois   May 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

Don't you just love Hillary's math. She must have been one of the children "Left Behind"!

Derek   May 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

She's still running???

BaltarStar Galactica   May 17th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

What is wrong with this woman? Someone please tell this hangerson Baby Boomer, this ME ME ME generation moron, to exit Stage Left. Only in her Sniper-Fired imagination does she have what it takes to be President.

joyce   May 17th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

hillary is blowing off a lot of hot air and is in fantasy land
go hillary (home

Terry in Fl   May 17th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

get em girl!

maggie   May 17th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

hillary need to go sit down. she agreed to the rules and she should be made to stick by them. if they give her those two states we can say that another person has stole the votes. those two states are out and they should be made to remain out. they knew the rules as well as i did and i havent ran for an office. so stop crying and be a strong woman who knows right from wrong.

chris   May 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

Clinton keep's saying that she's won more votes. I don't think she can count. She has fewer super-delegates, fewer delegates, and less of the popular vote, even with Michigan and Florida. The woman is losing it.

That Does It!!   May 17th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

So, since I have a job, healthcare, buy gas and a kid in college; Hillary isn't there for me?. I guess that just about says it all: You mean nothing if you're one of the millions that pay the taxes that she uses for political power.

Hillary, there is no "I" in "Team." Sit down already.

Donald from SC   May 17th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

God bless her. Over 20 years of education, including grad school, and she still has poor math skills.

KBest   May 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Honestly, Hillary, you should be graceful enough to bow out. The more you make it a do-or-die afair, the less relevant you make yourself. You're a very respected person in American politics, but you know, sometimes God's answer to a prayer is simply 'No'.

Don't force God into a 'Yes' position to please you. Remember, we're nothing but dust before his eyes. The heavens is wide enough for birds to fly without colliding into each other. You have ran a very forceful and determined campaign, but God has said 'No' this time.

Be graceful Hillary, be graceful and wait for God's 'Yes'.

Kaygee   May 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

After watching the way the press favored Sarkozy over Royale, I'm really hoping that voters will reject what the pundits are trying to dictate in the American election. I think the interview of Albright on the eve of the New Hampshire primary expressed it all.
If Obama shows himself to be a hard-working, innovative senator, I would consider voting for him in 2012. Right now, it's Clinton. And if it isn't, we'll pay the price for putting someone in there who isn't a seasoned enough statesman.

Michael   May 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Earth to Hillary, Earth to Hillary, Come in please… is anyone there?

Maybe she needs electro-schock to come back to reality.

Art   May 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Let's see……. Hillary Rodham Clinton…… Barak Hussein Obama.

Hmmmm. With little pieces of me left all over this world, I think I feel more comfortable with a real American name.

Independent White Guy   May 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Clintons represent the past while Obama represents the future. In my opinion gender or race doesn't have as much to do with Democratic Party being polarized between the two candidates as the pundits say unless you live in the rural areas of the country.

sewong   May 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Accepting the rules first then turning against the rules because you are behind tells alot about a persons character.It has nothing to do with Floride other Michigan.I just have a question that i honestly think nobody has taken the time to ask Hillary Clinton,what will she be saying if she was the frontrunner?

P.Markham   May 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Keep on keepin on. We need you in the White House.
You've had to deal with the crooks and creeps before
and have the experience on how to get things done in
spite of them.

Just another one of those old uneducated battleaxe

Anthony   May 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

There she goes again! As if Obama can't win any of the big states…that's absurd, of course he can, even in Pennsylvania right now he's ahead of McCain. Anyway, I don't know what we can say anymore to her. She's living in her own altered reality.

When is this thing going to be over anyway? June 3rd I hope, unless she has another devious plan on hand. Time to move on to the real contest, the general election.

In '68 and '72 and '80, the Dems thought hard in the primary but lost the general election because they went in divided and in the words of George McGovern "forgot" about the general election. I fear this will happen if it doesn't end on June 4th with Hillary's departure and the remaining supers finally having guts and take sides.

Paul   May 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

What Planet is she on?

MORE VOTES???? yes, when count michigan and florida and when
every caucus state is excluded.. so much for her argument "every single vote counts!!" At a caucus people make a decision, ie people vote!!

Barack Obama has hundreds of thousands more votes when EVERY SINGLE VOTE IS INCLUDED!

she is a total hypocrite, changing her stance constantly!! How can something who does this be trusted as the president of the United States?

gerald strother   May 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

CNN's official count — including all primaries and caucuses but neither Florida nor Michigan — has Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes DO THE MATH OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nilda Orraca   May 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

GOD BLESS YOU HILLARY. FAITH MOVES MOUNTAINS. i PRAY FOR YOU DAY AND NIGHT. LETS SEE MARVELS!

HILLARY THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT!!! SHE REPRESENTS ALL THE WOMEN OF AMERICA. THE USED, THE ABUSED, THE BETRAYED,THE SOLD, THE SLAVES AND THOSE WHOSE RIGHT TO VOTE WAS RIPPED.

semp   May 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

Ehhh, already she's failing to belly up with the common man and wishing for the good ol days in NewYorks' poofter wine bars.

Bobby tray   May 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

I am having difficulty understanding how she was raised like many people. She was priviledge. Her marriage gave her priviledge. But, she keep going around like she is just like us. If people really look at the lives of the three candidate running, Obama is the closest to the American make-up. Don't be fooled America. Or people of Kentucky because you are voting soon.

Kyle   May 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

I have to tell you that Hillary Clinton is amazing. I am not a supporter and have been for Obama since the beginning. However, she really doesn't quit like she says here. She can take any situation and turn it into a positive. She should quit politics because I think she would change more lives as a motivational speaker. Obama should add an appendix to his book, "The Audacity of Hope" simply entitled, "Hillary Clinton." She sure has some serious audacity…..with her hopes.

Eric, Chicago, IL   May 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Just because you repeat something over and over again in the media doesn't make it so. I saw the right-wing at work this way fir the past 20 years. It's sad that the 'face of the democratic party' would stoop this low. Honey, you're not ahead in the popular vote.

Terry   May 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

So Hillary will drink Canadian whiskey but not Kentucky bourbon. Guess the race is indeed over if she won't pander to the Kentucky electorate.

Tom, ALBUQUERQUE, NM   May 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

KEEP KEEPING ON HILLARY. IF HILLARY SHOULD LOSE THIS NOMINATION IT WILL BE A TERRIBLE LOST FOR AMERICAN, OBAMA CAN'T WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION. IF EVERY AFRICAN AMERICAN IN THE SOUTH VOTED FOR OBAMA HE STILL WOULD LOSE. OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE DRUNK WITH IRRATIONAL ENTHUSIASM.

DannyCali   May 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

Hillary do not stop until DNC stop you. After that can you run for other party we will support you again because you the one have most experience going to turn American back. I think Democratic party and majority of AA's are blinded that's why their let you down. Keep doing your job until DNC kick donkey butt.

Hillary needs to be Honest   May 17th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

Hillary needs to set the record straight. Every time she claims FL and MI, she shows she is not genuinely in it for the Party, only herself. These are the facts:

Florida Primary - voters came out primarily for initiatives on the ballot. The Democratic primary was already condemned as invalid. Hillary and Terry McCauliff already said the same. Therefore, there are no 'real' conditions to consider that vote as 'valid'.

Michigan Primary - an 'open' primary, where voters of any party may request a party ballot and vote as they wish. This was the beginning of the Limbaugh 'chaos' symbolic Hillary push, to take away apparent Obama momentum. Party leaders acknowledge the vote was not to be counted and only Clinton and Kusinich appeared on the ballot (breaking Party rules). Hillary 'won' 55% of the vote with 45% undecided - many pundits considered her inability to gain a greater % as the only leading candidate on the ballot as an actual 'failure.'

However, let's seat them 50/50 so they participate and get invigorated by the Convention.

Cohiba   May 17th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

Clinton math:

2 + 2 = whatever I want, as long as I am ahead.

This woman is both delusional and laughable. Maybe she SHOULD have that shot of bourbon.

Gordon Brooks   May 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

So, you and every other news outlet prefers Obama over Clinton and it shows even in this story. So, you couldn't print 10 more lines to complete the story but you cut it off with "…Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes."? Well, you know what, if Obama becomes the nominee and Clinton is not on the ticket, then McCain wins. Go to the bank on it. Is that what the press is hoping for?

paul   May 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

Her staff must've warned her in advance about the obvious joke if she reached for a bourbon:

"Senator… I think you've had enough."

Derek   May 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

It's still unbeleivable that Hillary tries to count the popular vote from Florida and Michigan to her count, even though both of these states broke the rules and Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Rich   May 17th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Democrats Unite!!!!

rob   May 17th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Hillary you are awesome! Keep going!!! You had my vote in NY and will have it in November.

tammy   May 17th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Distillery for Hillary! Win big in Kentucky and show 'em who is the true winner.

Florida Voter   May 17th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

I see that Hillary is up to her old tricks again in Kentucky. Now I guess she drinks Makers Marks every evening after a hard day of work to unwind.

Malarky!!!!!

Linda of Atlanta   May 17th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

Hillary's conduct today is exactly why Obama can't pick her as his VP candidate. She is still trying to dissuade people from voting for Obama by claiming she has won more popular votes. She knows this is not true, but she continues to try to stir enmity against Obama by suggesting that this nomination is being taken from her. I guess Bill and Chelsea will have to just drag her off the stage. I don't think anyone else can.

mitchell from arkansaw   May 17th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

oh puh-leaseeeee!whatever.have your time in the sun.but,we could really use your help,in uniting this party,when your finished.maybe ,some of you hillary supporters could set an example for her,and show your unity ,now.it would really help against mccain.

Kiah   May 17th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

*Sigh* It's so disappointing to see that she still is determined to lead voters on under false pretenses. HRC before this race I was convinced that I would not only vote for you but that I would support you until th end. But your lack of integrity in this race has slipped to such a low level that even your own supporters should be ashamed.

Michigan and Florida's delegates WILL be counted but you made an agreement with the DNC and to now that agreement to exploit voters disenfranchisement is just shameful. Please stop it because it's not honest and you know that!

Elaine   May 17th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Go Hillary!

Freddie, La   May 17th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Isn't it sorta hypocritical to say you want to count MI and Fl but don't count the caucus states? What's that about?

Caroll   May 17th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Yes. Hillary will win if given a chance to let every vote count. Hillary is the candidate that will get us out of the mess we are in. Obama is all talk , all show, and no go. Go Hillary.

Samuel G. Ortiz-Williams   May 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Go Hillary Go!!! You have won the popular vote and the Electoral Colleagues.
CNN is supporting Obama not You.
But the will of the people is supporting you Hillary.

HILLARY CLINTON '08

AN OHIO VOTER   May 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

DNC, Florida and Michigan were not the only two states that moved up their primaries. How will the other states be punished?? Why just Florida and Michigan??? I may not be as educated as the Obama followers, but I know that there are 50 states in the United States of America.

I'd also like to send a "shot out" to the DNC and the main stream media…YOU BLEW IT!!!

bea   May 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

This is now becoming poor me. Everytime she gets behind she and the rest of gang cry about the 2.3 million voters who oh by the way major players from both states supported her from the start.THEY CHEATED (for you) GOT CAUGHT!! That's the bottom line the media just won't point that fact out that really is the underline truth. mr. Obama did not even campaign in the states and His name was withdrawn in one of the contest. I feel that every voice should be heard. MRS. Clinton your whole campaign has been run on yester years, fears, and tears. Gimmicks, Name Calling and even the Race Card. You are $21 million in debt. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO LEND THIS COUNTRY WHEN YOUR PLAN DON'T WORK? HOW ABOUT THOSE WHO WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF YOU DON'T WIN. Lose with grace and take 2nd place. A good Woman know her power is influence!

Jenny, Oregon   May 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Turn your fire to McCain not the media. Hillary you had a head start in primaries and lost because of bad advice. Join Obama and beat McCain.

Chris   May 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

How come in this post you say Obama's ahead by 700,000 votes, and just a few posts earlier you said his lead was 400,000? I don't think anyone voted in the last few hours. Seems like you can't figure out the popular vote, either. That's because there were so many different voting systems: open primaries, closed primaries, caucuses released vote totals, caucuses that didn't release vote totals, Florida with all names on the ballot but not "counting," Michigan without all the names on the ballot. There can be no objective "popular vote" in those circumstances, unlike in the general election, because there's no one voting method.

E. C., Houston, Texas   May 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Clinton should be the nominee, for she is so far superior to Obama in every way, certainly experience. Obama has proven to us all that there is no substance beneath the facade. He's truly an empty book. How Clinton has maintained her sense of humor with so much distraction is amazing and to her credit. Clinton should be the Nominee. Obama is Not the better candidate; he sounds like a reckless, insecure, immature jerk accusing the President of the United States of lying, as well as Senator McCain. Those are strong words for such an inexperienced, unqualified candidate who has not won the Nomination yet. What is this idiot thinking? Obama has shown to the world that he is unqualified for any office because of his reckless and immature behavior.

Ryan V   May 17th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

She is a total disgrace. It's not the pundits declaring it over….it's the MATH. Maybe if the winner was decided by popular vote she would have an argument. It is shameful that she continues to take money from people even though SHE CANNOT WIN by any measure.

Unshrub   May 17th, 2008 6:22 pm ET

Please, Hillary, stop trying to add. It just makes you look foolish..

Independent Voter   May 17th, 2008 6:22 pm ET

Ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch, the fu$%^n'
old bi$%%^^! I'm so glad the Clinton era is really over! We
don't need these two criminals back in the White House! It
has been funny and entertaining…but all good and BAD
things must come to an end! Bye Hillary, you plastic phoney
liar! Take that pervert Bill with you!

Molly   May 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

KEEP FIGHTING HILLARY MILIONS SUPPORT & VOTE FOR YOU

obama is NOT QUALFIED - he will never be elected with his WEAK and questionable background.
Hillary Clinton is our only hope to win back the white hose.
Obama will not even go to states he cannot win - WV and now KY - when he gets no votes he will cry racist - again! ARROGANT
maybe he should go to these states - might need a vote or two.

Cruz   May 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Wow seriously Hillary what popular vote are you looking at? Is she still going on about Florida and Michigan? Get over yourself, just because you want to create your own demographic statistics does not mean that is what the rest of the country is going by. This popular vote nonsense is getting ridiculous. Take a couple of shots of Maker's Mark and exit stage right please.

Gringo   May 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Go Hillary Go.

If your supporters had wanted "Mr. Empty Suit", we'd have voted for him in the first place.

Saba   May 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

She is free to say what ever she wants to say. I am not against here. But I have an issue with the people who does not like Obama because of his skin color(Black). I was just watching the ballot ball and one lady from west Verginia said that she does not want to vote for Obama because she does not like him. That shocked me! Most of racist people are un educated and that is why Obama successful among educated and young people.

sharong58   May 17th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

I just read on "Real clear politics" that even if they counted Florida & Michigan, Barack Obama would still be ahead, not by much, but he is!
And there are 2 more races we know he has "for sure" maybe 3. Not to mention the 2,3 or more 'supers" he's picking up daily!
This brings me to the conclusion that Hillary is either staying in because (I heard ) she has to in order to qualify for some kind of $11 mil stipend to pay off her reportedly $20 mil of campaign debt or she
truly is dillusional and needs a shrink!
I have noticed that she has really turned down her negativity towards
Barack, which is refreshing. I think she is turning over a new leaf and trying to be a good girl so she gets a big piece of the pie . . . namely, the VP position.

Blondegirl   May 17th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

You GO Hillary!!! America needs you. We don't want Obama or McCain cause we know it will be more disaster.

Please please don't leave.

Sylvia Schildt   May 17th, 2008 6:29 pm ET

I'm with Hillary - far and away the most solidly grounded candidate we have. The dnc cannot and will not overlook Florida and Michigan in the end game. And she is absolutely correct about the electoral college tally — go to 270towin.com and compare her electoral college wins to the others. NOT TO BE AWARE OF THIS IS TO HAND THE ELECTION TO McSAME.

Sylvia of Baltimore

Paul Dobro   May 17th, 2008 6:29 pm ET

And Hillary's count does not include caucuses (guess living in Iowa and going to a caucuses means my vote did not count). The ONLY way she beats Obama in the popular vote is exclude caucuses, inlcude MIchigan (were Obama got ZERO votes) and Florida.

Sorry caucuses states and Mighigan voters who like Obama, your votes don't COUNT!

MD in CT   May 17th, 2008 6:29 pm ET

Each time I try to at least respect Hillary Clinton, I find her attitude and behavior repulsive, She suggests that anyone who worked hard - and
had some luck- to get a college education and have a profession some how does not count and cannot be a good Democrat. This from a lady with a husband who apparently made at least $109,000,000 in 10 years. When was the last time a Clinton had a job outside of the government? Is anyone stupid enough to believe that Bill made $109,000,000 of accountable income from just giving talks without using his political power as an exPresident to help influence Washington for favors, such as for Colombia?

And what about Chelsea, Is she a school teacher for underprivileged children or a nurse at an inner city or rural hospital? Hell no! She is a Stanford University graduate who works for Avenue Capital , a hedge fund run by a Clinton supporter. It is true that she does serve as the co-chairman for a charity, HER FATHER'S CHARITY, THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.

I came from Colorado and started poor. My life changed when my old man got the G.I. Bill. I went to state schools when America had enough money to support higher education. My tuition for a year of medical school was only $198. I served in the military and have worked as a doctor 6 to 7 days a week for over 30 years. I am not going to let some carpet bagging, loud mouth New York senator put me down for my education, profession or dedication to America. I worked too hard to listen to this baloney.

Jonthan Swift   May 17th, 2008 6:29 pm ET

It is very sad to see that today two people who by family connection may have expected to be president one day are having had difficulties involving their brains. These two people are leading lights of the Democratic Party, and we should wish them well. Ted Kennedy is apparently awake and his reality testing is intact. We can only hope that someday soon Hillary will also recover and come back to reality.

dlp   May 17th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

As they say whomever frames the discussion wins the argument. I wish that one news organization would challenge with facts these rather outrageous and unsubstantiated claims. How can you count votes for yourself, when your opponent chose to stand within party guidelines and disqualified himself as a candidate. Bad lawyering when you choose to advance your case with a lie.

Anne   May 17th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

I suppose being known as a 'barfly' does not equate to votes any longer - it sure did not impress the superdelegates when she performed her little act in PA. Too little, too late, Hillary - pandering is "politicians as usual" - too bad it took you this long to figure that out - you have been above the fray the past few days, but now it's far too late to save you from yourself.

cheeky of PA   May 17th, 2008 6:32 pm ET

She is living in such a fantasy world.

James - Indiana   May 17th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

I am now convinced that Hillary wants to be president simply for her own personal benefit. She is saying and doing whatever she thinks it takes to win, with no intention whatsoever of actually implementing anything that would help anybody.

Mike in Calgary   May 17th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Hillary DID NOT DO HER HOMEWORK before voting to authorize the war in Iraq ( Squandering lives and monies that could have been focused on medicare, pharmacare, highways and bridges (remember I-35 Minnesota bridge collapse in August). Hillary did not do her homework on the gas tax holiday (that only related to a 3 month period when only George Bush was President) when she wouldn't read the ecnonmists' reports) and she didn't do her homework when she decide to campaign in the primaries .,,FOR DELEGATES.

She lied about Bosnia, about her WHite House "experience" and now, the Loser is reneging on her Agreement that Florida's and Michigan's controverted illegal primaries would not count.

Her only experience is skipping homework, taking short cuts, lying, reneging on her word and having records go missing when Court's order her to produce files (Rose Law firm papers with Vince Foster).
If she had health care experience and expertise, why did she fail to effect reform back in 1992 or in the last 16 years!

Clinton may be a LOSER but heh …, that's a good match for West Virginia!

Mike

Mike

Obama Supporter   May 17th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

Let us all unite around the party to hope for the new beginning of the new Democrat party the great Obama supporters of Hate Hate Hate, Yes we Can Hate the McCaian and Clinton Supporters Yes we can Hate anyone that questions Obama yes we can Hate President Clinton and family yes we can Hate Wolf cause he See's things both ways Yes we can be blind to the truth

Independent   May 17th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

J

Craig from CT   May 17th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

How can you lead in popular votes when the votes from the FL, and MI do not count. Who's making a living now/

Chris, Middletown, CT   May 17th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

Ok….Hillary supporters - research this for yourself….this is not true….Michigan and Florida - the other candidates names were not on the ballot - and she doesn't count caucus' at all - please see through this….please - I'm begging you (sad that I have to "beg" for common sense….) its like when she was trying to pander for votes with suspending the federal gas tax….as a senator - she knew she missed the deadline already - and all economists thought the idea was poor (for so many reasons) - again….this is NOT what the country needs….ever….a say anything…and lie with a straight face candidate…what a mess

Lucas, Nashville TN   May 17th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

WHAT A CROCK.

First, she does NOT have more votes unless you don't count the Caucuses - and THEN who's ignoring votes, eh? Second, I have the same opinion of her campaign, and I am not as well-to-do as the people she's attempting to vilify.

Kris from AZ   May 17th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

Bottoms up Hillary :-) After a long campain. You deserve a good drink. No Hillary bashing for now.

Tim MN.   May 17th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

AGAIN! Try and win the general election with out Florida and Michigan Democrats! Talk about hypocrisy! Or at the convention they gonna hand all the delegates from these 2 states to Obama and say" oops! I guess we do need them to try and win the election" Which we all know won't happen. Keep fighting Hilllary!

Independent   May 17th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Just when you thought it was safe to go back tinto the water….her she goes again, blaming everbody but herself. It was her campaing to lose, and she did by alienating people, using dirty politics, and it still did not get her anywhere. Face it Hillary, you blew it. Stop blaming every body else for your failures. Be a real person, and face it. We nedd to get to get to the business of beating McCain. Stop being a divider, and for onces try being a uniter. Don't point the finger at anyone but yourself and your shoddy campaign managers,Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson, Terry McAuliffe,and your husband Bill!

GERIATRIC   May 17th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

GOOD LORD HILLARY. GIVE IT UP,.. AND START SUPPORTING OBAMA AND YOUR PARTY. GEORGE BUSH STOLE AN ELECTION. THE PEOPLE WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER SUCH DEBACLE.

Darryl Thompson   May 17th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Clinton cannot claimed to be a Democrat and represent Democrats while ignoring Democratic rules, rules that she AGREED with until she fell behind in the race to be the democratic nominee, and now needs to break in order to secure a win. We have had enough of politicians saying "screw the rules, screw the constitution (George Bush)" just because it is an inconvenience and impediment blocking them from getting their way. What if EVERY American started blatantly breaking the rules when we disagreed with them? Chaos and the end of our society would quickly follow.

We have learned with this current president that if a politician won't follow the rules then you cannot really expect them to look out for anyone but themselves (again G. Bush).

Martin   May 17th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

"Oh it's over' even though I've won more votes - those are all people who have a job" - No, Hillary, those are all people who exist only in your head. On the other hand they may have illusionary jobs, it all depends on your imagination.

Marie   May 17th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

GO HILLARY GO STAND YOUR GROUND AND STAY IN…..IF YOU DONT WIN I WILL NOT VOTE ….THE MEDIA HAS BEEN SO UNFAIR TO YOU..YET OBAMA CANT EVEN ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION A REPORTER FROM MICHIGAN ASKED HIM…EXCEPT TO CALL HER SWEETIE SO DISREPECTFUL OF HIM…STAY IN HILLARY I LOVE YOU

Justin- RI   May 17th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Keep up the awesome Job Hillary!!!!

mj   May 17th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

Like many of you, I have a dog in this race . . . I would be angry if my candidate were not nominated, all of us would. I have read some valid (and some outrageous) arguments on each side about counting votes and delegates. The craziest thing I have read is that democrats are vowing to either not vote, or vote for McCain if their candidate is not the nominee. Just the idea of another republican controlling our fate for the next four years should be enough to motivate a democrat to swallow their pride and do the right thing.

Two wrongs will not get this country out of the mess Bush has put placed us. Please remember who you are really angry at . . . it isn’t these two candidates who (both) want to bring us universal health care, get us out of Iraq, and give us back our civil liberties!!!!!!! The GOP put us into this predicament; it is our duty to make sure they do not keep us here.

PD from CA   May 17th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

What's with Hillary and booze? She's either tossing one back at a bar in Pennsylvania or hanging out at distilleries in Kentucky. What's next? She'll have a poignant tale of when her grandfather taught her how to make moonshine?

Mike   May 17th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

Dear Hillary,

As usual you keep on bringing up Florida and Michigan. If you were winning and Obama had brought up that they should count. You would be stating that last year you all agreed that they would not count. Maybe there should be a revoote in both states so that the 1.2MM in Florida and 700M in Michigan that did not vote can now be counted. I hope for your sake that these are not Obama supporters.

Kim   May 17th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

I believe that Hillary Clinton when this race is over, should actively support Barack Obama and help him to win those 300 eletoral votes, versus his 217 thai\t she claims that he has.
This party needs to be unified and I mean soon, so that the Democrats can have victory in November.
Victory 2008 Democrats !

KenOutWest   May 17th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

This woman has no shame.

Taka   May 17th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

That is one helluva woman right there. I'd love for her to the president of my country.

blackwoman   May 17th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

I agree with you Saba,

Most racist people are low-life, ignorants and stupid.

MDW   May 17th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

She's stying within her self….time for the end of the fake gameplay. She should get behind the selected candidate for the Presidency now– Obama….be real!

Go Bama 08.

APS in Hawaii   May 17th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

Go Hillary!!!! Obama is all talk and no substance. YES WE CAN CHANGE AND WIN. NO MORE DRAMA, DROP OUT OBAMA.

bill for barack   May 17th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

If Clinton can claim a popular vote lead when Obama is ahead by 700,000 votes maybe she has the math skills to balance my checkbook.

white woman for Obama   May 17th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

I think if clinton campaigned a little more about the issues, like she has been lately, and not using negative attacks to bring down Obama, she would have done better all along. Her message got better as she gained more experience and as she realized that she was losing, which then was a little too late. I hope that she learned her lesson for the next time that she decides to campaign, most Americans are not as negative as she thought. Maybe this will be a lesson for the next woman running for president. #1 make sure that you have a positive campaign #2 you do not have to speak like a man or act like a man to hold a president's position.

Ricardo Williams   May 17th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

I'm sorry. Is Hillary still campaigning? Oh she campaigning for 2016?

Obama08

Just Sad   May 17th, 2008 6:48 pm ET

Can someone get this woman an intervention?

Joe   May 17th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

So she's saying that all those people who look at the popular vote, see his number of votes is larger than hers, and say that on the air are wrong… because they have jobs. She is apparently the only one who knows how math works now, which is surprising considering she has a job and all.

Lorenz, Queens, NY   May 17th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

You'll need a good drink once reality settles in.

Rich   May 17th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

This may not be a smart move, putting down all the people who filter the news through to the American public. That's only going to cement the reporting, which is correct by the way, that to achieve her popular vote lead you need to a) not count many caucus states and b) ignore the fact that no one in Michigan could give Obama their vote.

And honestly, winning in primary contests does not mean you will also win in the general election. Similarly, losing a state in a primary does not mean you will lose it in the general. She does have an argument for places like West Virginia, but most of the big states she refers to she didn't win by as large margins as she'd like one to think.

Also, if you look at the bases Clinton and Obama has, I'd have to think that the youth vote has a lot more room to expand (e.g. more registered) than the elderly vote (e.g. almost certainly already registered).

CW4Barack   May 17th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

Clinton, the race is over….you haven't won more votes! Michigan and Florida can't save you. You have been living in a state of denial since Iowa….and you have not gotten into a forward thinking position