May 17th, 2008
05:15 PM ET
10 years ago

Clinton takes on TV pundits at distillery stop in Kentucky

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

LORETTO, Kentucky (CNN) - Wrapping up a rally at the Maker's Mark bourbon distillery on Saturday, Hillary Clinton again argued that she leads Barack Obama in the popular vote and attacked the television "punditry" that has suggested the race is over.

"All those people on TV who are telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should just be graceful and say, 'Oh it's over' even though I've won more votes – those are all people who have a job," Clinton told supporters picnicking in the gardens of the distillery.

"Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for."

"They keep telling me to quit," said Clinton. "I don't know, maybe I was just raised with the kind of values you were raised [with]. You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started and you don't quit on America."

Clinton has recently been claiming a lead over Obama in the popular vote, a debatable claim, especially because the Democratic National Committee doesn't count the votes of Florida and Michigan, which Clinton does.

Both states were disqualified by the DNC for bringing forward their primaries.

CNN's official count - including all primaries and caucuses but neither Florida nor Michigan - has Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes.

Clinton also argues that looking at the electoral map for the general election, she has won states with more electoral votes than Obama has.

"If you look at the states [Democrats] have to win, if you look at the big states, and you look at the swing states, I am the stronger candidate," she said.

Before her rally, Clinton toured the distillery and tried her hand at sealing a bottle of Maker's Mark, donning protective gear and dipping the bottle into a vat of the famous red wax. She remarked that she didn't realize every bottle is sealed by hand.

This wasn't Clinton's first brush with whiskey on the campaign trail.

She famously took a shot of Crown Royal during a bar stop in Indiana but despite her surroundings on Saturday, she didn't indulge.

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soundoff (591 Responses)
  1. John, Brooklyn, NY

    Hillary, dear,

    It isn't just the pundits that are telling you that its over – it's also most of your own party. Most importantly, however – most of your consituents in New York agree – and these are not people you really want to alienate if you intend to continue serving in the Senate beyond 2012.

    May 17, 2008 08:19 pm at 8:19 pm |
  2. Marshal Phillips, Wichita, Kansas

    I admire and respect somene who soldiers on and on and on; especially since the race is far from over.
    Sen Clinton is running in all the state contests and some have yet to be decided and some super delegates are still undecided.
    Let the process work its way through to the end.

    May 17, 2008 08:19 pm at 8:19 pm |
  3. John IND

    maybe hillary already had a drink of Crown. Sniper fire , red pant suits, I have the popular vote. Hey I'll drink with her , but no vote here>

    May 17, 2008 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  4. Trish- PA

    This woman is ridiculous! She is the ONLY one saying that she is leading in the popular vote. THE ONLY ONE! So I guess everyone else is ignorant and can't add? Hillary, you are NOT leading in the popular vote. Even with Michigan and Florida. And don't even get me started on that. How can you clinton supporters possibly overlook the fact that she signed an agreement AND also made a statement on camera that those votes would not count. How can you possibly think that she really cares about the votes in those states? She only cares because she is behind and you all know it. But you choose to be ignorant fools. Her name was the only name on the ballet in Michigan. And you still think she should get those votes?? Who did she win against? Herself? She beat herself! Wooo Hooo! LOLOLOLOL Yeah, that's a victory all right. Dang!!

    May 17, 2008 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  5. Yes we can!

    OBAMA/NAGEL 2008/2012

    May 17, 2008 08:21 pm at 8:21 pm |
  6. Dennis

    Hillary's claim to the popular vote requires you to include Florida's and Michigan's votes for her and not give any votes in MIchigan to Obama. It also requires you to not include votes in many of the caucus states. That is the only way she can argue that she is ahead in the popular vote. Ironic isn't it? This is the same person that said "every vote should count." Now, she is willing to leave out hundreds of thousands of votes to get the result she wants.

    May 17, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  7. Neutral

    Hillary should stay all the way to the convention. Folks it is the MAP not math.

    Lots of you calling yourselves "educated" are slow in analysis department.

    May 17, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  8. Michael

    Just because Obama says its over and the editorials in the Obama favoring news papers say its over, doesn't make it over. Last time I checked, the DNC hasn't given anyone a nomination and no one has won.

    And if Hillary did drink that bourbon, the media would blow it out of proportion again. How does her refusing the drink make her an alcoholic?

    May 17, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  9. Frances

    Who cares about the popular vote in Michigan and Florida? The race didn't count!! They broke the rules and should pay for what they did. To all you HILLARY fans, she agreed to not count the votes when the rule was made but all of a sudden, since she is losing, she wants their voices heard. What a HYPOCRITE HILLARY. Why would America want a President whose word can't be trusted. With the Bosnia lie, the remaining lies just keeps on coming........................

    May 17, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  10. Mari

    I think Clinton's gotten great coverage.

    She was hailed as the inevitable candidate for almost a full year before the primaries, getting all the insider backing. Several times in the process when any other candidate would have been counted out, the pundits have repeated the story line to "never count out a Clinton". The only candidates who could get any attention in this primary were Clinton and Obama. As an Edwards supporter, I find her statement ridiculous. If Edwards could have gotten a fraction of the positive press she did, we might be looking at a totally different race.

    And then it had to reach a virtual mathematic impossibility before the press started counting her out and even now that it has happened, the press is still waiting for the lightning strike or the earth to open up. The press would do that for no other candidate but a Clinton.

    May 17, 2008 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  11. Rob

    what is most troubling is that her ambition seems to continue overriding the what's best for the Dems chances in November. Yes she has backed off the attacks but she continues to say anything and spin everything when there is no possible way short of a disaster for her to get the nomination. After Tuesday Senator Obama will have the majority of the delegates which hopefully will be the final nail. It's a real shame that she chooses to go out this way.

    May 17, 2008 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  12. PAT


    time to let our voices be heard..

    May 17, 2008 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  13. Marc

    It's a solid Bourbon. Too bad she wasn't at the Booker's Distillery to indulge in that option. That's even better.

    May 17, 2008 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  14. David

    It's called denial. Do we want another president who is locked in denial? This is exactly why our nation is no longer viewed in a positive way.

    May 17, 2008 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  15. kenny cole

    looser you better quit now b4 the bosnia sniper put a gun on your heasd

    May 17, 2008 08:29 pm at 8:29 pm |
  16. Vera Richardson

    The Clintons with all of their baggage cannot and will not unite this country. Our entire nation suffered during the impeachment proceedings of President William Jefferson Clinton and the Monica Lewinsky saga. Having the Clintons in the White House again would be extremely bad for America.

    Why is Hiilary and Bill willing to destroy the Democratic Party in their effort to return to the White House. What promises did Bill and Hillary make to earn the 109 million dollars reported on their tax returns? Who did Bill receive money from for future Presidential favors?

    Not this time Hillary sorry but there will not be a THIRD term for President Bill Clinton.

    The ultimate American position and/or dream is the become the President of the United States of America. Senator Barack Obama has played by all the rules. He has worked hard and has by all account ran an excellent campaign. He has won more pledged delegates, states, and votes than Clinton. The super delegates of the Democratic Party must support Obama as the nominee if at the end of the primary process he has won more pledge delegates and has more votes (per the rules before the start of the primaries) than Senator Clinton.

    As a nation we united after we were attacked by al-Qaeda led by Osama bin Laden on September 11, 2001. Therefore, we know that it is possible for this country to unite. Under the leadership of President Barack Obama this country will once again stand united as one nation under God.

    Vera Richardson

    May 17, 2008 08:31 pm at 8:31 pm |
  17. Tony

    Give her FL and MI.

    It still don't matter!

    Even with FL and MI, Obama leads in all metrics – including popular votes – but most importantly, delegates.

    The only way Clinton leads anything is if you take out the caucus results. Kind of ironic, huh? She cares so much about the people who voted in FL and MI but disregards those in caucus states?

    May 20th is the magic day!

    May 17, 2008 08:31 pm at 8:31 pm |
  18. mike

    What Kind of Math she is doing om popular vote count. She is a Democrat or hypocrat, She agreed on DNC rules, now she does not, because without FL and MI she is blown. Even if you count FL and MI still she is shy on popular vote. Guess what she does not want to count the cauauses. Is she not acting like BUSH? I mean the dictator.

    Ask yourself, hillary supporters, this is about stopping the war game, this is about recovering from a recession, this is not an emotion game here!!! be realistic, primary is over, get those republicans out of the white house


    May 17, 2008 08:32 pm at 8:32 pm |
  19. oh Puuuleeeeze!

    It's obvious to me that Hillary may have refused the taste of Maker's Mark in public, but she was chugging it in the ladies room. What a bunch of nonsense!

    May 17, 2008 08:32 pm at 8:32 pm |
  20. Joe From Florida

    I guess the DNC still doesn't want us down here in Florida or those up in Michigan. Let's see them win in November without us. It will not happen. If the DNC does not reinstate the Fl and MI votes and deligates before 6/3 then both states will be RED in Nov.

    May 17, 2008 08:33 pm at 8:33 pm |
  21. Mack

    Hillary is a mess.

    May 17, 2008 08:33 pm at 8:33 pm |
  22. FactCheck

    As an Obama supporter, I have no problem with her staying in so long as she isn't trying to tear the party apart (which she hasn't been over the past week). For all of you "Clinton or McCain" types, please do go ahead and vote for McCain. Most of us Obama supporters are fairly well off and the higher gas prices, outsourcing of jobs and major cuts in all government programs that McCain will institute will have minimal affect on us. Hope you are ready for another 4 years of Bush.

    May 17, 2008 08:34 pm at 8:34 pm |
  23. justobserve

    Clinton can't stop. She doesn't care about her party's rules. She just needs to change the rules to suit her, doesn't matter what other people say. She is playing the game of US vs THEM to the full. Even though she has been a multimillionaire for a long time, living in mansions for the past four decades, she is still saying who she is depending on who the audience are, mostly the common people. It's amazing she can use the victim card and gender card to turn criticism of her character (spins and lies with a straight face as in Bosnia sniper fire or I-won-the-popular-votes) to her advantage.

    May 17, 2008 08:35 pm at 8:35 pm |
  24. Booger

    I have two jobs. I work hard to send my kids to college (I never made it). I will not vote for Clinton. She has declared that I am not the type of American she wants to represent. No brainer.

    May 17, 2008 08:36 pm at 8:36 pm |
  25. Julie MN





    May 17, 2008 08:36 pm at 8:36 pm |
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