May 17th, 2008
05:15 PM ET
10 years ago

Clinton takes on TV pundits at distillery stop in Kentucky

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

LORETTO, Kentucky (CNN) - Wrapping up a rally at the Maker's Mark bourbon distillery on Saturday, Hillary Clinton again argued that she leads Barack Obama in the popular vote and attacked the television "punditry" that has suggested the race is over.

"All those people on TV who are telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should just be graceful and say, 'Oh it's over' even though I've won more votes – those are all people who have a job," Clinton told supporters picnicking in the gardens of the distillery.

"Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for."

"They keep telling me to quit," said Clinton. "I don't know, maybe I was just raised with the kind of values you were raised [with]. You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started and you don't quit on America."

Clinton has recently been claiming a lead over Obama in the popular vote, a debatable claim, especially because the Democratic National Committee doesn't count the votes of Florida and Michigan, which Clinton does.

Both states were disqualified by the DNC for bringing forward their primaries.

CNN's official count - including all primaries and caucuses but neither Florida nor Michigan - has Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes.

Clinton also argues that looking at the electoral map for the general election, she has won states with more electoral votes than Obama has.

"If you look at the states [Democrats] have to win, if you look at the big states, and you look at the swing states, I am the stronger candidate," she said.

Before her rally, Clinton toured the distillery and tried her hand at sealing a bottle of Maker's Mark, donning protective gear and dipping the bottle into a vat of the famous red wax. She remarked that she didn't realize every bottle is sealed by hand.

This wasn't Clinton's first brush with whiskey on the campaign trail.

She famously took a shot of Crown Royal during a bar stop in Indiana but despite her surroundings on Saturday, she didn't indulge.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Kentucky
soundoff (591 Responses)
  1. Bubba's over Hillary.

    May 17, 2008 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  2. Bill

    I wish the press attending these functions where Hillary goes off the deep end would call her on her lies - she is NOT leading in popular vote and she is lying when she characterizes ALL Obama supporters as being well off. How stupid does she think the people of Kentucky are?

    May 17, 2008 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  3. jimmy

    Hillary, no matter what happens your supporters WON'T FORGET what really happened.

    The MOVEMENT is on....
    McCain '08 for Clinton '12
    Obama, well, NEVER!!!

    May 17, 2008 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  4. obama double speak

    After this year's election is over, the DNC leaders should help conduct elections in Zimbabwe and Algeria. They routinely don't count votes there as well and are experts at reporting false numbers. After Obama gets blown away in November, the DNC leadership will have lots of free time anyway.

    May 17, 2008 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  5. Obama 08: 60, white female

    Clinton is only winning if:
    1. They count the votes that were cast against the rules she endorsed and in fact supported up until she was losing South Carolina

    2. They do not count the votes cast in the caucsses.

    3. They change the rules that pledged delegates do not determine the winner.

    4. They only count the votes cast in large states and swing states.

    Those aren't the values I was brought up with and certainly not the way a democracy flourishes: through clearly established rules.

    May 17, 2008 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  6. Rachel

    Good for her! The media acts like they are kings this election season. They get to make the rules. They decide who they want to win. They decide what is offensive and what isn't. It's disgusting.

    HILLARY 08

    May 17, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  7. clinton now obama

    I am glad that Senator Clinton is foregoing the negative campaigning, but her math is just too shady. She can't be serious. What about the Caucus states that Obama has won that don't track popular votes. He has won double the states and running against another dem is much different than running against the Repubs in Nov. Our Democratic party will come together to make certain that we don't have a 3rd Bush term with McBush.

    May 17, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  8. faye, NV

    Hillary when you first started you were the one I would vote for. However, being a hardball woman does not make you better or less, it the I don't care what I have to do to get the job.

    Very negative and you even made racist comment. At one point I surely thought the N-- Word was about to come out of your mouth.

    I feel that somewhere along the line this race became all about you and not so much the people. I lost all respect for you, the Clinton's. But I am a Dem and will vote Dem even if it is you. Women should always act as a lady and not a bully. In the meantime, continue to act graceful and not poor me, whimpering, or the attitude I am better then.

    May 17, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  9. Tony

    Please do not qit. I will vote for no one but you or John Mccain.

    May 17, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  10. Lawrence, a person of conscience

    Hillary? You did not win more votes. Any fool knows this.

    May 17, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  11. Itoldyouso

    How can anyone support a candidate that cannot even add? Don't count the caucus votes, give Clinton all the Michigan and Florida delegates, and don't count the delegates where the states begin with the letter "I" – this is HRC's formula for throwing out the will of the MAJORITY of the voters so she will be the nominee.. She is disgusting!

    May 17, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  12. Griff

    The Race is over, when you walk...He's a Failure without, and the Democrat's know that...l But they will not listen till you Walkkkkk....

    May 17, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  13. Derek

    i think her point is regardless of dnc politics, more people have cast their votes for her by selecting her name on a ballot than anyone else. i'd think cnn could at least understand the difference between that and the political "official" count. but, then again, i think cnn wants to stick to the delegate count and the populace count that supports delegates. the difference between being for the people by the people and a successful media campaign, i suppose.

    May 17, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  14. Chris in SC.

    You may call it "quitting", but you can also look at as accepting reality! The more you try to spin the reality, the more you sound like a foolish, out of touch republican.


    May 17, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  15. TonyNJ

    Since childhood my parents, mentors and teachers always stated that our nation was a Democracy. In a Democracy, every citizen's vote counts. Why are the votes cast by the citizen's of Florida and Michigan primaries Not counted. Brave men and women are fighting a war to maintain our rights as a Democracy. Many of these brave men and women have given their lives or suffered disability fighting the war to maintain our Democracy. Since Florida and Michigan remain part of these United States of America, having sent citizens to fight for our Democracy, the votes of the citizens of Florida & Michigan should be counted and not discounted by the Democrat party.

    May 17, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  16. Terry Ann

    I'm not a Hillary supporter but I agree with her on this.

    May 17, 2008 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  17. Joe Reg

    This is what you like to do.

    Keep on campaigning in the fantasy state of my.

    May 17, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
  18. Sean B

    It seems that for eight years we have complained about the fuzzy math of the Bush presidency. We repeatedly hear the Clinton campaign complain that Obama is out of touch with reality... Now here we see a combination of fuzzy math and being out of touch with reality. For a week they have been claiming a lead in the popular vote – but they seem to be the only people who see it.

    This is only serving to hurt the party as Clinton's supporters follow her down this delusional path. In the end, she should be educating her supporters on why it only serves to hurt democracy when people throw their vote away on an unregistered write-in candidate. She should be working to keep her supporters on the democratic side of the fence, and realize that she is only ruining her own image. She has a very strong group of supporters, but they pale in comparison to Obama supporters.

    Obama not only has his base, but also a very large share of independent votes. As a young American, I am personally quite offended by members of the baby boom claiming that only the young people who don't know better are willing to vote for Obama. Which is funny – because as it seems they were the ones who elected richard Nixon and George Bush.

    It's time for change and an answer that makes sense. We can't carry on to the next generation by maintaining the status quo. We need hope, we need vision, we need someone who can make a difference. We need the intangibles that will re-energize our nation. We are on the edge of history, and we can achieve the impossible.

    Yes We Can.

    May 17, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
  19. A.J. Edge

    AMEN! This race is NOT over and Florida and Michigan should be seated! I've heard the media and other political folks spin it as LOTS of people didn't go out and vote in those two states because they knew the votes didn't count... OH REALLY? Interesting when you compare the number of people who voted in the 2004 primaries in those states vs. 2008. Michigan had 433,271 MORE voters (an increase of 269% over 2004) go out in 2008 and vote, and Florida had 971,545 MORE voters in 2008 (an increase of 136% over 2004) go out and vote. DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT?


    Oh, and Obama REMOVED his name from the Michigan ballot, he should NOT get the Uncommitted votes there as a punishment for saying Michigan was not worthy of having his name on the ballot BUT he could leave his name on the ballot in Florida.

    Hillary is leading in the popular vote (even though that didn't matter for Gore in 2000 – it SHOULD matter today.)

    HILLARY 2008! This is far from over!

    May 17, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
  20. David

    She is not up to reality check. So we have to give her some couple of weeks maybe months to come in terms of the reality.

    May 17, 2008 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
  21. Be Honest

    Only you Mrs Clinton think you are ahead in Votes ,You are NOT also
    Sen. Barack Obama picked up the endorsement of a Maryland superdelegate Greg Pecoraro Saturday .
    It`s over and you know it !!!!

    May 17, 2008 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  22. Blackwoman, Ohio

    Hillary Supporters lets stick together...

    we are over 47% of the democratic party and many of us live in swing states that will be crucial in Nov.

    we can decide who wins in Nov. !!!

    we cant just accept obama or mcCain we must continue to fight for someone better !!!

    May 17, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  23. Molly

    Obama is NOT Qualified – he ignores states he cannot win – like WV and now KY – maybe he should go there and ask for a vote or two – might need them if he is the nominee. ARROGANT!
    Obama will never be elected with his WEAK and very questionable background.
    Hillary CLinton is our only hope to win the White House.

    HILLARY or McCain NEVER obama

    May 17, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  24. Bob

    This woman is so delusional I don't even know why she hasn't been locked up yet.

    May 17, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  25. Lori

    GO HILLARY! Don't ever quit. Quitters never win and winners never lose, no matter the outcome.

    May 17, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
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