May 17th, 2008
05:15 PM ET
10 years ago

Clinton takes on TV pundits at distillery stop in Kentucky

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

LORETTO, Kentucky (CNN) - Wrapping up a rally at the Maker's Mark bourbon distillery on Saturday, Hillary Clinton again argued that she leads Barack Obama in the popular vote and attacked the television "punditry" that has suggested the race is over.

"All those people on TV who are telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should just be graceful and say, 'Oh it's over' even though I've won more votes – those are all people who have a job," Clinton told supporters picnicking in the gardens of the distillery.

"Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for."

"They keep telling me to quit," said Clinton. "I don't know, maybe I was just raised with the kind of values you were raised [with]. You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started and you don't quit on America."

Clinton has recently been claiming a lead over Obama in the popular vote, a debatable claim, especially because the Democratic National Committee doesn't count the votes of Florida and Michigan, which Clinton does.

Both states were disqualified by the DNC for bringing forward their primaries.

CNN's official count - including all primaries and caucuses but neither Florida nor Michigan - has Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes.

Clinton also argues that looking at the electoral map for the general election, she has won states with more electoral votes than Obama has.

"If you look at the states [Democrats] have to win, if you look at the big states, and you look at the swing states, I am the stronger candidate," she said.

Before her rally, Clinton toured the distillery and tried her hand at sealing a bottle of Maker's Mark, donning protective gear and dipping the bottle into a vat of the famous red wax. She remarked that she didn't realize every bottle is sealed by hand.

This wasn't Clinton's first brush with whiskey on the campaign trail.

She famously took a shot of Crown Royal during a bar stop in Indiana but despite her surroundings on Saturday, she didn't indulge.

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soundoff (591 Responses)
  1. enoch needles

    Gotta love the SHS – the Shrill Hill Shills.

    Democratic principles are SO important to them, that they'll all flock to McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination.

    Enjoy your 9-0 McCain Supreme Court as it dials back civil rights (especially for women) to the 1950's (when the little woman knew her place).

    Guess what, I find Obama inspiring and more than up to the job. It's been a long time since I've honestly been able to say I'm voting FOR a candidate. But if he doesn't get the nomination, I'll vote for Hillary – because the alternative is just unthinkable.

    May 17, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  2. Go Obama 08/12

    Its hard to believe some people that can move numbers around to play their crooked game /if you had children playing a game and they screwed up the points,lied about the score /moving them around against the rules of the game to benefit them winning they would loose their right to even be in the game.
    McClinton should look in a mirror so she can see the liar she really is .Is there a bigger crook anywhere?

    May 17, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  3. morrow

    Hmm . . . so far every time the left & MSM media have counted her out she's come back strong with voter support.

    Debate all you want about which votes should count, but why not follow the rules & see who gets the most delegate votes at the convention. Trying to cut the race off early is not following the rules. The rules are for the pledged & super delegates to vote at the convention, not before. The party will not have a nominee until then, no matter how some may want to spin it (unless of course they change the rules in mid stream—oh yeah maybe it is OK to change the rules if it helps Obama).

    Hillary has a HUGE lead in state electoral votes. Those are the ones that count in November (and if the super D's voted the way the people of their states did she would also pick up a bunch). She is very likely to have the popular vote by early June, even for those who argue she doesn't now.

    Oh yeah, the pro Obama folks can’t let it go to the convention because Hillary is just too divisive and unsuitable personally to be president. At least that’s what the Obama camp has been claiming from day one (while at the same time borrowing most of her policies and then claiming that there is not much difference between them on policies). And that’s the politics of change? Sound a lot like the right wing politics of the ‘90s to me. I’d enjoyed listening to Rush Limbaugh in the early ‘90s (he actually had some valid commentary way back when) to balance out the ‘politically correct’ media at the time, until he started his campaign of hate against Hillary and I turned the radio dial. Then, starting in 2004, I’d really enjoyed 'progressive' commentary from Randi Rhodes, Ed Schultz & all, but then most of them started their own hate Hillary campaigns. And again I turned the dial. Finally, back in January I downgraded my cable TV package to make certain none of my money went to support MSNBC & CNN. It was bad enough paying for Fox News up to that point.

    May 17, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  4. jay North

    H. Clinton and her hubby have 100 million bucks, and she went to a posh private and Ivy League colleges. Is not this working girl act getting a bit old?

    How do the blue collar folks bite on this? This is the same bunch that voted for Bush. Asked and answered.

    May 17, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  5. enow

    what will happen if Obama finally carries the day? what is wrong with you, i know America is a land where every dream can be fulfilled but what i know is that those things that are impossible can never be, what i am saying is that no matter what happens Clinton can never be a Democratic norminee , it is over i know it is over so there is no need for you to keep on getting yourself into debts,
    so my greatest advice for you is that you should instead be working a how to be Obama's running mate, However i wish you the best in your illusions,

    May 17, 2008 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  6. older and wiser

    At least Hilliary is a fighter and does not give up. We need a fighter in the white house, not a whimp who whines everytime something is said in the news. I got the impression from Bush's speech he was hinting at Carter, not whimpy Obama. cry, cry, cry.......

    May 17, 2008 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  7. Anonymous

    Denise we have thought about it and one reason i have decided to go mccain after that group she has been so supportive of could not wait to put a knife in her back and support obama the day after her big win in wv they could have waited like alot of others until jun 3rd but like edwards got scared and felt they could not wait i like alot of her supporters feel we must vote mccain and take a chance on him instead of takeing a chance on someone we do not know what he is realy about

    May 17, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  8. Go Obama 08/12


    To all Hillary supporters that cannot add.
    Do you really think the rest of the world is also unable to add or read the rules?
    The answer is NO you are a Rebublican Go away

    May 17, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  9. Will

    Can any Hillary supporter please tell me why the Clintons should be able to continue to dictate the rules that Harold Ickes was responsible for putting in place. They set the terms of this race from the very beginning and it didn't work out in their favor. The media and pundits have been very soft on them for moving the 'goal post' numerous times by changing their stance on what it takes to win. I want all of you to honestly look in the mirror and ask yourself, what if you did everything by the rules and someone else kept changing them just to keep you from winning. Michigan and Florida were not counted because they violated Harold Ickes' and the rules committee rules. Obama, well after the point where this was set up was not expected to make it out of January of 2008. Also consider that you will personally be responsible for the loss of more American lives in Iraq for supporting McCain just to get Hillary in 2012. That's WAY TOO extreme when your lives hang in the balance. To ignore the democratic economic agenda and foreign policy agenda because you didn't get your way in spite of having the deck stacked against your opponent is self-defeating to say the least. This country is bigger than one man or one woman. It is based on a set of ideals include 'we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal...", yet when on a level, yet ever-changing playing field when your candidate does not succeed, you treat the other democratic candidate just like African-Americans were treated in the prior to 1968. How can Obama have more power than Bill Clinton, former president, and Hillary Clinton, and Harold Ickes all of whom have a stronghold on the Rules Committee and the Credentials Committee? Ask yourselves, if you were the victim, would you think it was fair to have to jump more hurdles, place higher than anyone else's. He is getting grilled on his Patriotism, Religion, etc which is fair. No one is rolling out the red carpet for him, but also, the presidency is not an aristocracy or an entitlement. Remember, Hillary was considered the inevitable candidate primarily because she had Bill Clinton, the former president in her corner along with her well-earned credentials as a Senator. Obama did not make the Clintons not strategize beyond Super Tuesday and certainly did not make them skip all of the caucus states. These were strategic errors and they should be scrutinized by their supporters for letting them down and taking these critical issues for granted.

    May 17, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |

    GO HILLARY GO!!!!!



    YOU WILL PREVAIL!!!!!!!!

    May 17, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  11. mya, Obama

    Dems unite.

    May 17, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  12. Eddie in TX

    Isn't this entire primary process remarkable! We have a tight race of 2 good candidates running for the democratic nomination. Reading all of the posts from Sen. Clinton supporters, you'd rather vote for Sen. McCain than vote for Sen. Obama... Is he really that bad of a political candidate to run this country. Looks like he has very well managed his campaign and his FINANCES – the kind of results that matters to me. I also look at the judgement he has to nominate the right people to his cabinet positions to best represent the voice of the american people. If long time party officials are giving their support to him, why would you so called faithful democrats give your vote to Sen. McCain? Is Sen. Clinton really a republican in democratic clothing? Is she really going to run for the republican vice presidency if she looses? Why are all you Sen. Clinton supporters so "Bitter"? I was a republican supporter and voted for all the Bushes, but I believe that we can't achieve the betterment of this country with the same political ideas that many politicians with experience has in this election. Vote for true change that Sen. Obama first introduced and the other candidates are biting on... Don't vote for McCain just because your candidate didn't win. I'd vote for Sen. Clinton anyday over Sen. McCain if Sen. Obama would lose the nomination. Why can't you do the same. Another Bush office (with McCain) is not the right office!

    May 17, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  13. dan davenport

    For the love of the corn on the cob.....concede please Hillary! How much more and how many more straws to grasp before you break the camals back??? You owe it to your shrinking supporters to pull out of the race after Tuesday. Stop asking for their money, it's just to pay your debt. That's not endearing and it's certainly not "ladylike".
    Get behind and support our enevitable candidate Obama. Thanks.

    May 17, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  14. Spades

    @ DY:

    I'm sure your 'factual comments' will have much impact on democratic voters and the Democratic party, REALLY IT WILL.

    May 17, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  15. Dave in Albuquerque

    Anyone who votes for McCain this fall because Clinton didn't get the nomination, isn't truly a Clinton supporter, just someone who jumped on the wagon when the wagon was going their way. A true Clinton supporter will follow her call to get a Democrat in the White House this fall, no matter who gets the nomination. And there really will be a difference this fall. Do you help the economy by helping working people, or the rich? Do you start bringing home the troops in 2009, or do you hope they might be home in 2013? Do you appoint Supreme Court justices who believe in women's rights, or do they go back to being mens' reproductive property? If you support Clinton so much that you ignore her ultimate goal, you don't support her at all.

    May 17, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  16. Jordan

    There is a common misconception about how much people make in television news. Except for network anchors, people actually get paid quite little. (a.k.a. Hillary's 'base')

    May 17, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  17. lilacs

    To all Hillary supporters,there is another option in November,so you dont have to vote for obama or mccain and that is a write-in vote, That is what I plan on doing in the general election. I will not waste my vote on either one of the clowns, but vote for the one person I truly believe will be the best president America has had need for along time. The oly channge obama is going to bring to washington is his job titleand mccain is crazy. Think about it a write-in for Hillary ,

    May 17, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  18. Linda Smith

    Hillary is a trooper, with all the media bashing her and leaving Obama alone as he walks on water. Those supporter need to realize that he is not seasoned enough to run this country. Nor does he have my trust that he can or will. I will not vote for Obama, so I guess many like me in the polls and no matter how they try and sell it McCain will win if Obama is the nominee for my Democratic Party. I can't vote for someone I can trust and he is a big fat hypocrit wearing a flag pin now. Give me a break!!! Hillary go all the way and hopefully he screws up big time where the media can't back him any longer!

    May 17, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  19. ruby

    I watched CNN last nite talking about Mccains age. Is that age discrimination or what!! But, it is ok for Obama to cry about race.

    Age has nothing to do with it. Look at all the old people hanging around in congress. At least McCain can speak and does not have a loss for words. Obama is nothing but stutters over his words.

    Age and health. let me see..... Interesting JFK was the youngest president and he had serious back problems and spent majority drugged up due to pain. Has Obama released his medical records yet?

    CNN, you should be ashamed and you are 100% accused of discrimination.... going over to Fox.

    May 17, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  20. Rich

    Go ahead, Clinton supporters. Vote for McCain. And when he wins, say goodbye to a woman's right to choose and hello to who knows how much longer in Iraq.

    May 17, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  21. ric iowa

    One thing is for sure here. I have read so many blogs that it seems that their are a significant number of people who say that if Hillary does not get the nomination they will vote for McCain.

    Do you really think that voting for McCain to HAVE IT YOUR WAY is the right thing to do?

    I can give you more than 4,000 dead soldiers who I think would want you to get their comrades out of the war in Iraq.

    By rebelling against Barack Obama is sentencing thousands more troops to DEATH in Iraq, ARE people really that SELFISH??????

    May 17, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  22. adrian

    If Hillary takes this nomination, I will definately not vote for her (nor will 80% of African Americans). If the rolls were reversed, would she be so concerned with Flordia and Michigan counting fully? Of course not! She cares more about her career than the country or the Democratic Party. Why else whould she run for a senate seat in New York instead of her own home state? Answer: For her own political gain.

    May 17, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  23. Kris from AZ

    it is over for Hillary. copy that

    May 17, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  24. Josh

    I'm an independent voter with no allegiance to any party. The fact that the republicans settled on a candidate a long time ago shows decisive leadership character from that party. The democrats seem to think that they can handle world diplomacy, but they can't even get their own party to come to an agreement on a candidate. The November election is coming soon and the two dems are still throwing poop at each other. If either of the democratic candidates were competent enough to lead our country in peace or war, they would have proved it already by a negotiation and unification of the two candidates into a pres/vise pres ticket or one of them would have had a clear victory by now. I'm not voting for McCain because of his views on same sex unions. I'm not voting for either democrat because of their obvious incompetence. I guess I'll have to write in a candidate. Maybe I'll write in Romney. At least he had some intelligent ideas about the economy. We'll see.

    May 17, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  25. Pete

    To all you Clintonites who CLAIM you'll vote for McBush if Hillary doesn't win: Not only are you pseudo-Dems - you are traitor-hypocrites whose utter idiocy is mind-bogglingly regressive, and deserving of yet another 4 years of George Bush.

    Fortunately, for you dumb @sses, some of us have other ideas.

    May 17, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
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