May 17th, 2008
05:15 PM ET
10 years ago

Clinton takes on TV pundits at distillery stop in Kentucky

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

LORETTO, Kentucky (CNN) - Wrapping up a rally at the Maker's Mark bourbon distillery on Saturday, Hillary Clinton again argued that she leads Barack Obama in the popular vote and attacked the television "punditry" that has suggested the race is over.

"All those people on TV who are telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should just be graceful and say, 'Oh it's over' even though I've won more votes – those are all people who have a job," Clinton told supporters picnicking in the gardens of the distillery.

"Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for."

"They keep telling me to quit," said Clinton. "I don't know, maybe I was just raised with the kind of values you were raised [with]. You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started and you don't quit on America."

Clinton has recently been claiming a lead over Obama in the popular vote, a debatable claim, especially because the Democratic National Committee doesn't count the votes of Florida and Michigan, which Clinton does.

Both states were disqualified by the DNC for bringing forward their primaries.

CNN's official count - including all primaries and caucuses but neither Florida nor Michigan - has Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes.

Clinton also argues that looking at the electoral map for the general election, she has won states with more electoral votes than Obama has.

"If you look at the states [Democrats] have to win, if you look at the big states, and you look at the swing states, I am the stronger candidate," she said.

Before her rally, Clinton toured the distillery and tried her hand at sealing a bottle of Maker's Mark, donning protective gear and dipping the bottle into a vat of the famous red wax. She remarked that she didn't realize every bottle is sealed by hand.

This wasn't Clinton's first brush with whiskey on the campaign trail.

She famously took a shot of Crown Royal during a bar stop in Indiana but despite her surroundings on Saturday, she didn't indulge.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Kentucky
soundoff (591 Responses)
  1. Kiah

    *Sigh* It's so disappointing to see that she still is determined to lead voters on under false pretenses. HRC before this race I was convinced that I would not only vote for you but that I would support you until th end. But your lack of integrity in this race has slipped to such a low level that even your own supporters should be ashamed.

    Michigan and Florida's delegates WILL be counted but you made an agreement with the DNC and to now that agreement to exploit voters disenfranchisement is just shameful. Please stop it because it's not honest and you know that!

    May 17, 2008 06:17 pm at 6:17 pm |
  2. Elaine

    Go Hillary!

    May 17, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  3. Freddie, La

    Isn't it sorta hypocritical to say you want to count MI and Fl but don't count the caucus states? What's that about?

    May 17, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  4. Caroll

    Yes. Hillary will win if given a chance to let every vote count. Hillary is the candidate that will get us out of the mess we are in. Obama is all talk , all show, and no go. Go Hillary.

    May 17, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  5. Samuel G. Ortiz-Williams

    Go Hillary Go!!! You have won the popular vote and the Electoral Colleagues.
    CNN is supporting Obama not You.
    But the will of the people is supporting you Hillary.


    May 17, 2008 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |

    DNC, Florida and Michigan were not the only two states that moved up their primaries. How will the other states be punished?? Why just Florida and Michigan??? I may not be as educated as the Obama followers, but I know that there are 50 states in the United States of America.

    I'd also like to send a "shot out" to the DNC and the main stream media...YOU BLEW IT!!!

    May 17, 2008 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  7. bea

    This is now becoming poor me. Everytime she gets behind she and the rest of gang cry about the 2.3 million voters who oh by the way major players from both states supported her from the start.THEY CHEATED (for you) GOT CAUGHT!! That's the bottom line the media just won't point that fact out that really is the underline truth. mr. Obama did not even campaign in the states and His name was withdrawn in one of the contest. I feel that every voice should be heard. MRS. Clinton your whole campaign has been run on yester years, fears, and tears. Gimmicks, Name Calling and even the Race Card. You are $21 million in debt. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO LEND THIS COUNTRY WHEN YOUR PLAN DON'T WORK? HOW ABOUT THOSE WHO WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF YOU DON'T WIN. Lose with grace and take 2nd place. A good Woman know her power is influence!

    May 17, 2008 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  8. Jenny, Oregon

    Turn your fire to McCain not the media. Hillary you had a head start in primaries and lost because of bad advice. Join Obama and beat McCain.

    May 17, 2008 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  9. Chris

    How come in this post you say Obama's ahead by 700,000 votes, and just a few posts earlier you said his lead was 400,000? I don't think anyone voted in the last few hours. Seems like you can't figure out the popular vote, either. That's because there were so many different voting systems: open primaries, closed primaries, caucuses released vote totals, caucuses that didn't release vote totals, Florida with all names on the ballot but not "counting," Michigan without all the names on the ballot. There can be no objective "popular vote" in those circumstances, unlike in the general election, because there's no one voting method.

    May 17, 2008 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  10. E. C., Houston, Texas

    Clinton should be the nominee, for she is so far superior to Obama in every way, certainly experience. Obama has proven to us all that there is no substance beneath the facade. He's truly an empty book. How Clinton has maintained her sense of humor with so much distraction is amazing and to her credit. Clinton should be the Nominee. Obama is Not the better candidate; he sounds like a reckless, insecure, immature jerk accusing the President of the United States of lying, as well as Senator McCain. Those are strong words for such an inexperienced, unqualified candidate who has not won the Nomination yet. What is this idiot thinking? Obama has shown to the world that he is unqualified for any office because of his reckless and immature behavior.

    May 17, 2008 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  11. Ryan V

    She is a total disgrace. It's not the pundits declaring it's the MATH. Maybe if the winner was decided by popular vote she would have an argument. It is shameful that she continues to take money from people even though SHE CANNOT WIN by any measure.

    May 17, 2008 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  12. Unshrub

    Please, Hillary, stop trying to add. It just makes you look foolish..

    May 17, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  13. Independent Voter

    Ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch, the fu$%^n'
    old bi$%%^^! I'm so glad the Clinton era is really over! We
    don't need these two criminals back in the White House! It
    has been funny and entertaining...but all good and BAD
    things must come to an end! Bye Hillary, you plastic phoney
    liar! Take that pervert Bill with you!

    May 17, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  14. Molly


    obama is NOT QUALFIED – he will never be elected with his WEAK and questionable background.
    Hillary Clinton is our only hope to win back the white hose.
    Obama will not even go to states he cannot win – WV and now KY – when he gets no votes he will cry racist – again! ARROGANT
    maybe he should go to these states – might need a vote or two.

    May 17, 2008 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
  15. Cruz

    Wow seriously Hillary what popular vote are you looking at? Is she still going on about Florida and Michigan? Get over yourself, just because you want to create your own demographic statistics does not mean that is what the rest of the country is going by. This popular vote nonsense is getting ridiculous. Take a couple of shots of Maker's Mark and exit stage right please.

    May 17, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  16. Gringo

    Go Hillary Go.

    If your supporters had wanted "Mr. Empty Suit", we'd have voted for him in the first place.

    May 17, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  17. Saba

    She is free to say what ever she wants to say. I am not against here. But I have an issue with the people who does not like Obama because of his skin color(Black). I was just watching the ballot ball and one lady from west Verginia said that she does not want to vote for Obama because she does not like him. That shocked me! Most of racist people are un educated and that is why Obama successful among educated and young people.

    May 17, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  18. sharong58

    I just read on "Real clear politics" that even if they counted Florida & Michigan, Barack Obama would still be ahead, not by much, but he is!
    And there are 2 more races we know he has "for sure" maybe 3. Not to mention the 2,3 or more 'supers" he's picking up daily!
    This brings me to the conclusion that Hillary is either staying in because (I heard ) she has to in order to qualify for some kind of $11 mil stipend to pay off her reportedly $20 mil of campaign debt or she
    truly is dillusional and needs a shrink!
    I have noticed that she has really turned down her negativity towards
    Barack, which is refreshing. I think she is turning over a new leaf and trying to be a good girl so she gets a big piece of the pie . . . namely, the VP position.

    May 17, 2008 06:27 pm at 6:27 pm |
  19. Blondegirl

    You GO Hillary!!! America needs you. We don't want Obama or McCain cause we know it will be more disaster.

    Please please don't leave.

    May 17, 2008 06:28 pm at 6:28 pm |
  20. Sylvia Schildt

    I'm with Hillary – far and away the most solidly grounded candidate we have. The dnc cannot and will not overlook Florida and Michigan in the end game. And she is absolutely correct about the electoral college tally - go to and compare her electoral college wins to the others. NOT TO BE AWARE OF THIS IS TO HAND THE ELECTION TO McSAME.

    Sylvia of Baltimore

    May 17, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  21. Paul Dobro

    And Hillary's count does not include caucuses (guess living in Iowa and going to a caucuses means my vote did not count). The ONLY way she beats Obama in the popular vote is exclude caucuses, inlcude MIchigan (were Obama got ZERO votes) and Florida.

    Sorry caucuses states and Mighigan voters who like Obama, your votes don't COUNT!

    May 17, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  22. MD in CT

    Each time I try to at least respect Hillary Clinton, I find her attitude and behavior repulsive, She suggests that anyone who worked hard – and
    had some luck- to get a college education and have a profession some how does not count and cannot be a good Democrat. This from a lady with a husband who apparently made at least $109,000,000 in 10 years. When was the last time a Clinton had a job outside of the government? Is anyone stupid enough to believe that Bill made $109,000,000 of accountable income from just giving talks without using his political power as an exPresident to help influence Washington for favors, such as for Colombia?

    And what about Chelsea, Is she a school teacher for underprivileged children or a nurse at an inner city or rural hospital? Hell no! She is a Stanford University graduate who works for Avenue Capital , a hedge fund run by a Clinton supporter. It is true that she does serve as the co-chairman for a charity, HER FATHER'S CHARITY, THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.

    I came from Colorado and started poor. My life changed when my old man got the G.I. Bill. I went to state schools when America had enough money to support higher education. My tuition for a year of medical school was only $198. I served in the military and have worked as a doctor 6 to 7 days a week for over 30 years. I am not going to let some carpet bagging, loud mouth New York senator put me down for my education, profession or dedication to America. I worked too hard to listen to this baloney.

    May 17, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  23. Jonthan Swift

    It is very sad to see that today two people who by family connection may have expected to be president one day are having had difficulties involving their brains. These two people are leading lights of the Democratic Party, and we should wish them well. Ted Kennedy is apparently awake and his reality testing is intact. We can only hope that someday soon Hillary will also recover and come back to reality.

    May 17, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  24. dlp

    As they say whomever frames the discussion wins the argument. I wish that one news organization would challenge with facts these rather outrageous and unsubstantiated claims. How can you count votes for yourself, when your opponent chose to stand within party guidelines and disqualified himself as a candidate. Bad lawyering when you choose to advance your case with a lie.

    May 17, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  25. Anne

    I suppose being known as a 'barfly' does not equate to votes any longer – it sure did not impress the superdelegates when she performed her little act in PA. Too little, too late, Hillary – pandering is "politicians as usual" – too bad it took you this long to figure that out – you have been above the fray the past few days, but now it's far too late to save you from yourself.

    May 17, 2008 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
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