May 17th, 2008
05:15 PM ET
10 years ago

Clinton takes on TV pundits at distillery stop in Kentucky

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

Sen. Clinton at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Kentucky, Saturday.

LORETTO, Kentucky (CNN) - Wrapping up a rally at the Maker's Mark bourbon distillery on Saturday, Hillary Clinton again argued that she leads Barack Obama in the popular vote and attacked the television "punditry" that has suggested the race is over.

"All those people on TV who are telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should just be graceful and say, 'Oh it's over' even though I've won more votes – those are all people who have a job," Clinton told supporters picnicking in the gardens of the distillery.

"Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for."

"They keep telling me to quit," said Clinton. "I don't know, maybe I was just raised with the kind of values you were raised [with]. You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started and you don't quit on America."

Clinton has recently been claiming a lead over Obama in the popular vote, a debatable claim, especially because the Democratic National Committee doesn't count the votes of Florida and Michigan, which Clinton does.

Both states were disqualified by the DNC for bringing forward their primaries.

CNN's official count - including all primaries and caucuses but neither Florida nor Michigan - has Obama ahead by close to 700,000 votes.

Clinton also argues that looking at the electoral map for the general election, she has won states with more electoral votes than Obama has.

"If you look at the states [Democrats] have to win, if you look at the big states, and you look at the swing states, I am the stronger candidate," she said.

Before her rally, Clinton toured the distillery and tried her hand at sealing a bottle of Maker's Mark, donning protective gear and dipping the bottle into a vat of the famous red wax. She remarked that she didn't realize every bottle is sealed by hand.

This wasn't Clinton's first brush with whiskey on the campaign trail.

She famously took a shot of Crown Royal during a bar stop in Indiana but despite her surroundings on Saturday, she didn't indulge.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Kentucky
soundoff (591 Responses)
  1. bill for barack

    If Clinton can claim a popular vote lead when Obama is ahead by 700,000 votes maybe she has the math skills to balance my checkbook.

    May 17, 2008 06:46 pm at 6:46 pm |
  2. white woman for Obama

    I think if clinton campaigned a little more about the issues, like she has been lately, and not using negative attacks to bring down Obama, she would have done better all along. Her message got better as she gained more experience and as she realized that she was losing, which then was a little too late. I hope that she learned her lesson for the next time that she decides to campaign, most Americans are not as negative as she thought. Maybe this will be a lesson for the next woman running for president. #1 make sure that you have a positive campaign #2 you do not have to speak like a man or act like a man to hold a president's position.

    May 17, 2008 06:47 pm at 6:47 pm |
  3. Ricardo Williams

    I'm sorry. Is Hillary still campaigning? Oh she campaigning for 2016?


    May 17, 2008 06:47 pm at 6:47 pm |
  4. Just Sad

    Can someone get this woman an intervention?

    May 17, 2008 06:48 pm at 6:48 pm |
  5. Joe

    So she's saying that all those people who look at the popular vote, see his number of votes is larger than hers, and say that on the air are wrong... because they have jobs. She is apparently the only one who knows how math works now, which is surprising considering she has a job and all.

    May 17, 2008 06:49 pm at 6:49 pm |
  6. Lorenz, Queens, NY

    You'll need a good drink once reality settles in.

    May 17, 2008 06:51 pm at 6:51 pm |
  7. Rich

    This may not be a smart move, putting down all the people who filter the news through to the American public. That's only going to cement the reporting, which is correct by the way, that to achieve her popular vote lead you need to a) not count many caucus states and b) ignore the fact that no one in Michigan could give Obama their vote.

    And honestly, winning in primary contests does not mean you will also win in the general election. Similarly, losing a state in a primary does not mean you will lose it in the general. She does have an argument for places like West Virginia, but most of the big states she refers to she didn't win by as large margins as she'd like one to think.

    Also, if you look at the bases Clinton and Obama has, I'd have to think that the youth vote has a lot more room to expand (e.g. more registered) than the elderly vote (e.g. almost certainly already registered).

    May 17, 2008 06:52 pm at 6:52 pm |
  8. CW4Barack

    Clinton, the race is haven't won more votes! Michigan and Florida can't save you. You have been living in a state of denial since Iowa....and you have not gotten into a forward thinking position since you entered this campaign. I am afraid even if you steal the nomination you have absolutely no game plan to tackle McBush, due to your shortsighted viewpoints.

    Obama '08

    May 17, 2008 06:53 pm at 6:53 pm |
  9. Stan(NC)

    WV was proof that the American people are not satisfied with rich media people choosing our next President.

    Senator Clinton is the only one trying to make sure every voice counts and the only one who will fight for the average American.

    She doesn't need the job. She doesn't need the money. She has a true internal 'need' to make sure Americans are better off than they are right now.

    Unfortunately all those young voters being fooled by rhetoric are not old enough to remember the "Good 'ol Days of Bill Clinton's America". More people had jobs. More police on the street. More money for college. They were great economic times.

    If you can afford a Volvo and a Starbucks every day Obama will make life better for you. If you're a poor college kid... good luck.

    May 17, 2008 06:54 pm at 6:54 pm |
  10. Former Obama Supporter

    You stay in it Hillary. Please don't quit. We need you.

    May 17, 2008 06:54 pm at 6:54 pm |
  11. Joe White

    Just what we need in the White house – a President that can't count and lies to us.

    We already had 8 year of that!

    And they try to make McCain look like Bush!

    Sounds to me like HILLARY is the new BUSH!

    Found any WMDs at that distillery?

    You know, I used to like Maker's Mark – why on earth did they let her stage a campaign event there?

    I'm switching to Knob Creek.....

    May 17, 2008 06:55 pm at 6:55 pm |
  12. Mary

    Senator Clinton did not vote to move the dates of the elections and people did vote for Senator Clinton on those ballots. Seems as fair as the caucauses where Obama supporters were allowed to vote two or three times for their candidate. This whole election has been a SCREW-UP by the Democratic Party VIPs, the media bias and the buying of superdelegates. I will not vote for Senator Obama or any superedelegate on their next election that supported Obama.

    Looks like McCain will be our next President.

    May 17, 2008 06:56 pm at 6:56 pm |
  13. Y

    Whenever Hillary says she’s ahead in the popular vote, she’s basically saying that the people who voted in the caucus states are not important; she’s saying that the people who voted uncommitted in Michigan are not important. What is she talking about? More people went out to vote for Obama, period.

    May 17, 2008 06:57 pm at 6:57 pm |
  14. Charles

    Blah, blah, blah...another pack of lies. "We came in under heavy distillery fire..." Yeah, she's just like us with her $110 MILLION income. She didn't know that the wax was applied by hand? Maybe she thinks that cars come full of gas and never run out? I wonder how much she pays her driver to pump her gas? I bet he earns more that the poor chumps that believe she is one of them, earn.

    So, her name du jour? How about Hillary Distillery?

    May 17, 2008 06:57 pm at 6:57 pm |
  15. Gracious

    Is it only logical that she continues until there is a hope. In a race no one quits because he or she is in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th or even the last place. It is not over until the race is over. Hillary has already said she will run only until the candidate is chosen. When it happens whoever the candidate may be, she will start campaigning for Democratic Candidate to be president. It is only courteous to let her campaign until the primary ends, and allow her to do that without attacking on the person. This is America, a land of promise filled with respect and dignity for each other!

    May 17, 2008 06:57 pm at 6:57 pm |
  16. Bill

    Hill, Bill, Chel, and Wolfson....the last true believers.

    May 17, 2008 06:57 pm at 6:57 pm |
  17. woody

    majority of the popular vote? are you deluding yourself or do you just need to re-learn your arithmatic? sheesh...

    May 17, 2008 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  18. Chris11

    Is it not true? More Americans have infact cast a vote for Senator Clinton over Senator Obama. It is factual information.

    The DNC stripped the delegates from the voters (even though it was a select few officials who made the decision) and I believe a financial penalty would have been more appropriate. Taking away the civil rights of the voters was unequivocally unacceptable treatment of American democracy.

    The DNC did however still allow the voters to vote. If the vote were not to have some weight in the decision making process then why allow any vote to begin with? Now that the vote has been cast, it is the superdelegates duty to weigh in this large bit of pertainent information in their decision making process. I cannot see how anyone in a power position could possibly ignore its relevancy.

    Senator Clinton received the most votes from our fellow Americans in this primary election process and it is absolutely shameful that teh MSM and opponent supporters are mocking her for her victories! This great woman is history in the making... she has climbed hills and moved mountains that few have been able to do... she is a respectable and diligent advocate in this nation and has been for many years... How dare anyone claim that the game is over! We will not allow this election to be stolen from the rightful nominee. There is a force to be reckoned with out there that no one is paying attention to!

    Hillary Clinton '08

    May 17, 2008 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  19. RB from NH

    Anything to win...count what doesn't count, ignore the truth, and never, never play by the rules. She'd make a perfect president!

    May 17, 2008 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  20. Brian from NYC

    This is CRAZY – I lead in popular vote!!! I'm just not counting any state with a vowel or if they were a small state, weren't a swing state, they have a NFL football team, and if anyone ,but my 1 year old son voted!

    May 17, 2008 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  21. Joel Noonan

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.

    May 17, 2008 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  22. Lene'

    Whining again! She needs to remember that she signed an agreement writing Florida and Michigan off.

    May 17, 2008 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  23. Jim

    Why does Hillary Clinton continue to deceive and treat us like idiots when she says she has more popular votes than Obama. His name was not even on the Michigan ballot. It is these kinds of lies that drove me away from the Clintons. She is suppose to be loved by middle clas white Americans, but she acts so "elitist" when she lies with her math.

    May 17, 2008 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  24. Justin Marcus

    Having all but lost the nomination, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton seeks to hoodwink the American people by making a contentious claim of being ahead in the popular vote, a claim that has no basis in fact.
    According to Senator Clinton's logic, some votes do not count (i.e., caucases) while some do (i.e., primaries).
    I think Senator Clinton has forgotten that this is America, a nation where every vote counts, where every voter has a voice.
    Go Obama!

    May 17, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |

    MR. AMERICA points out that during the Florida and Michigan elections, EVERYONE THOUGHT THAT THEIR VOTE WOULDN'T COUNT. OBAMA TOOK HIS NAME OFF OF THE BALLOT IN ONE STATE. Those elections are worthless Hillary! How many people stayed home? How many people would have voted for Obama if his name was on the ballot?


    May 17, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
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