May 21st, 2008
08:15 AM ET
11 years ago

Analysis: Clinton scores a win, Obama nears finish line

Sen. Barack Obama has picked up a majority of the pledged delegates, according to CNN calculations.

Sen. Barack Obama has picked up a majority of the pledged delegates, according to CNN calculations.

NEW YORK (CNN) - Hillary Clinton won a landslide victory in Kentucky Tuesday, but momentum - and a growing sense of inevitability - is now firmly on Barack Obama's side.

He took Oregon last night, but it was his symbolic victory with pledged delegates that was the storyline.

The one-time long shot for the Democratic nomination has a majority of pledged delegates to the Democratic Convention and is now about 70 delegates shy of the finish line.

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  1. Carolina girl

    The race isn't over until ALL VOTES ARE COUNTED – and that means
    counting the EXACT votes, as they were cast, in both Michigan and Florida.

    We can't elect a President without the input from ALL 50 states. This is the UNITED states! That means ALL of us. 100%. Nothing less.

    If Florida and Michigan's votes are ignored, as they are being now,
    or if they are fractionalized in any way, or divided up 'randomly" — with the pre-set idea of letting Obama win the election — then FLA and MI should SECEDE from the nation.

    We can't be the "united" states with less than our 50 states.
    UNITED we stand.... less than united, we FAIL. Fail to be honest, trustworthy, and proper stewards of the authority entrusted to us
    in the U.S. Constitution.

    May 21, 2008 11:08 am at 11:08 am |
  2. Mike, NJ

    This race has been over for quite some time now.....

    But HRC continues to drag the contest out, if you can even call it a contest anymore.

    Bama '08

    May 21, 2008 11:15 am at 11:15 am |
  3. Unbelievable

    JD, Miller, John Coil, Obama or no one and Proud Bigot....unbelievable! For many reasons, I am not a supporter of Clinton. And those feelings are based on how she has run her campaign and her mouth (lies, racism, sexism etc). But because I am a true DEMOCRAT and she has similar ideas as Obama...I will vote for her if she is the nominee. And that will be separating my personal views of her and knowing that our country cannot be turned around with McCain in office.

    According to Hilary, her supporters are uneducated. Well, for once in your life take an educated stance and vote for the DEMOCRAT nominee based on politics, not race (embrace Obamas white side if that make you feel better). By the way, what makes a biracial individual black? If you are all blue collar and living paycheck to paycheck...WHY on GOD's green earth would you want four more years of struggle. Wouldn't you want the next four years being spent cleaning up Bush's mess and not adding salt (McCain) to the wound?

    For all you racist voters, watch the movie A Time to Kill (Mathew McConnaughy and Samuel L Jackson). At the end, the lawyer asked the jury (of white people) to close their eyes and picture the black child (that was tortured and raped by those white men) were a white child when making there decision of conviction. Most cried! We are ALL Americans and we are ALL human beings.

    To all racist, whether white or black...DO NOT vote for McCain if your favorite candidate does not win the nomination based on skin color. You will be surprised to know that we all eat, sleep and crap alike. The only thing that make us different is our skin color (in most cases).

    May 21, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  4. Billy J Austin, TX

    Please NOTE>>> May 21st, 2008 10:45 am ET
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    While comments that came 30 min later are posted... what moderation standard does the following NOT meet... please let me know so that you will post ......

    I would like to point out that Ted Kennedy ran the very same campaign that Hillary is running right now. He went all the way to the floor of the convention, june 3rd when it was obvious he could not win. Carter had it sewed up many months earlier, but Ted stayed in with…. and I quote " I am the more electable candidate" (because the country just loves northeastern ivy league yachting types)

    So what is wrong with Hillary staying in, to save face and to make sure her supporters got their moneys worth? If Obama is so fragile his candidacy cannot stand even this.. then what will happen in the fall? I will vote for him, that's what will happen. I hope the rest of my southern white blue collar, "I had to work right outta high school", men will be as generous to the snobby wing of our party.

    May 21, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  5. Scott Bloom

    You people that insist on counting Florida and Michigan as is are delusional or republican trolls. They broke the rules that everyone (including Hillary) agreed to. And the funniest thing is, they are rules put in place by Terry Mc. The Florida and Michigan delegations will be seated in some manner but the vote as is... meaningless.

    May 21, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  6. Paul Lennon

    I'm telling you. Clinton voters can't wait to vote against Obama in Nov.
    These super delegates, mostly congresspeople are will to give this to Obama, to save their own skin, even if it means a victory for McCain.

    What a party we have.

    May 21, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  7. Andrea KC

    The DNC should give Michgian and Flrodia half of their delegates, just like the RNC did–and let the issue finally be resolved. It's time to end all of the in-fighting and bickering and make sure a democrat is in the White House next year.
    Democrats 08

    May 21, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  8. Mike, NJ

    Some people bother me....

    How can you count states like FL and MI? Not only have they been disqualified, but in MI Obama was not even on the ballot!

    And for the hardcore HRC supporters, even if FL and MI did count, which they probably will because Bill and Hillary whine about it so much, it would not make any difference when it comes to the math.

    And for the people who will not vote Obama in the fall, just to spite him... grow up. I mean seriously if you are willing to sabotage the election to get your way then so be it. It is supporters like these for a candidate like Clinton, which is why her campaign crumbled from the start. And if your such a "die hard" Clinton supporter, then donate some funds to the sinking ship.

    Obama and his supporters, laughing all the way to the White House!!

    May 21, 2008 11:21 am at 11:21 am |
  9. fred

    venus May 21st, 2008 11:08 am ET

    You Americans are funny. Obama was right…you are a bitter bunch of people, the Billary supporters, I mean. Go and vote Mc Cain and continue counting your dead soldiers

    ----------------–

    LMAO...whos bitter???

    How many of the Obama posters are from foreign countrys????

    How much of Obamas donations are coming from foreign countrys???

    I think someone should start investigating !!

    May 21, 2008 11:21 am at 11:21 am |
  10. EGabelli

    Below is a letter I sent this morning to the DNC:
    --------
    Enough is enough.

    The Clinton campaign is playing on, bringing out, and legitimizing the racist tendencies in the uneducated white segment of our Democratic constituency.

    It has to stop. Hillary Clinton's personal ambition is now bringing this Primary season and our Democratic Party down to its lowest common denominator: the poor white racist.

    The DNC must put a stop to what is clearly Hillary Clinton's "strategy." Playing on and legitimizing racist fears in that small remaining bigoted segment of our society is causing the ugly head of racism to resurface, and will destroy the change and hope message this election should be about.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. SHUT DOWN CLINTON'S RACIST STRATEGY BEFORE IT DESTROYS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

    Hillary Clinton cannot legitimately win this nomination, and indulging her ego has only demonstrated that she will stop at nothing to gain the Presidency.

    Can we Democrats really afford to coddle the Clinton's at the expense of her pandering to the remaining racist segment of our country?!

    IF the DNC does not put a stop to this now, YOU and the Clinton's will be responsible for the Democrats losing the Presidency in the fall, and bringing our country back to it's ugly racist days.

    A usually calm, 60 year old white woman, who is also a teacher, a wife, a mother, and a grandmother.

    Princeton, NJ

    May 21, 2008 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  11. Rob in ohio

    Hillary is now definately winning the popular vote. Funny how this reminds me of the whole Al Gore thing where he won the popular vote and George Bush won the 2000 election.

    All the people cried FOUL back then. Now it's the other way around. Hillary w/ the bigger popular vote, but looks like Obama will win the primary.

    Bunch of silly and not-that-intelligent hypocrites over in the Obama camp

    May 21, 2008 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  12. Monica

    She has been telling voters for months now that he is incompetent and incapable of being president. The polling in Kentucky verifies that she has continued these tactics in Kentucky. Yesterday, she even claimed that him and his campaign was sexist. These tactics did not work in IN and NC, that should have ended them. Yes people have said sexist things about her but why has she placed the blame on him? I have not heard him say anything sexually insulting toward her.
    She is creating a no confidence vote in the leading candidate of her own party. This is a primary and not the GE, at this point I question the integrity and ethics of someone who will continue this kind of talk convincing their own party members that he does not deserve the nomination and she does.
    To what point and purpose does she continue? I cannot find an explanation except to bring Obama down and I am hoping that is not her cause. It will be a difficult task to all of a sudden convince her voters that he is capable when he ultimately gets the nomination. I see this as a problem she has created and she will have to fix or she will have left great damage to her political party. With the current state of the US, this should be an easy win in November, but unfortunately it will not and Hillary Clinton has done everything in her power to make it that way. At this point she must alter her course and her purpose and her commitment to her party which includes the millions of members of her party that did not vote for her.

    May 21, 2008 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  13. alex

    carolina girl: do you have any idea what is going on? serious question. I don't understand why people are so retarded about this issue. it's really quite simple, so i am going to break it down for you.

    the elected state government in those states decided to go against party rules after the rules had been set in place knowing that they would be stripped of their delegates. it doesn't matter whether people agree with this now or not, because all the candidates (including senator clinton) agreed on those rules. if the DNC goes back on its word now and lets them have a say, the next primary season is going to be chaos because everyone will move their primaries up in order to have a "say" in what happens with the democratic nominee.

    The people of michigan and florida need to give their state government a big thank you for screwing them out of a chance to actually have something to say like they would have had they waited for their previously scheduled primaries. so i hope this was easy enough for people to understand because i'm tired of people complaining about punishment for breaking rules, what kind of home did you people grow up in anyway?

    May 21, 2008 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  14. Scott C

    You can count Florida and Michigan exactly as they were counted and Obama is still in the lead by FAR.

    This is some kind of false hope you are all chasing that you think will save Clinton from defeat.

    Are you upset that McCain is the presumptive nominee even though ALL states haven't voted yet? NO, because he has enough delegates that there is NO WAY that his lead can be overcome.

    As they stand Michigan and Florida aren't fair elections, Obama wasn't on the ballot and in Florida (as well as Michigan) the people were told their vote was meaningless, don't bother going to vote... It was the only state where more republicans voted than Democrats.

    The election was invalid, it can't be counted as it was.

    Though they can go ahead and do that if they want, Obama will still win.

    Popular vote isn't the measure of success. Delegates are.

    If popular vote was the factor then candidates would only campaign in major metro areas. The delegate system ensures that every county in America has a voice.

    It also is unfair, because more people showed up at the end of the season than the beginning, because it wasn't as heated then.

    Popular vote isn't the measure of victory.

    I also find it funny that Clinton supporters are grasping at the democracy straw, when they are more than happy to let the Superdelegates overturn the results of the primaries and GIVE the nomination to the loser (Clinton)... Democracy only matters when it supports Clinton huh?

    lol

    May 21, 2008 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  15. BIFF, BIFFINGTON...

    When all of the crying on both sides about which metric to use...

    (most contests won...)

    no... (most popular vote...)

    Florida, Michigan....

    no.. most large states...

    by the rules of the DNC... the ONLY metric in selecting the nominee is

    DELEGATES... THAT'S IT... DELEGATES...... (and the insiders on both sides know it).

    May 21, 2008 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  16. Bushwhacked in Eugene, OR

    The fall election should be about the policies you want to see coming out of Washington for the next 4 years. Forget all the emotions involved, forget even the names that will appear on the ballot. Think about the future of this country.

    Do you want this war and more wars?
    Do you want to end women's rights?
    Do you want an economy aimed at the rich and ignoring the poor?

    If you want all these things then by all means vote for McCain.

    If you want peace, equality for all Americans, someone who will support the disenfranchised, and affordable healthcare, then you need to vote for the democratic candidate, regardless of who that may be.

    May 21, 2008 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  17. Super Dummys

    TICK TOC

    May 21, 2008 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  18. MD in OK

    To Paul: You need to mail that response to your state legislatures. They were the ones who made the decision to move up the primary date.

    May 21, 2008 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  19. Diane, Buffalo, Wy.

    I listened to Sen. Clinton's speech on CNN this morning and as always she gave a fine speech. She is going to keep going on until every vote is counted. That is admirable. But I have one question. She has stated that she has won the popular vote. When it comes to the popular vote, she has stated that it is only the states that held primaries which count. My question is, what has happened to then to the voters of Wyoming, of which I am a resident, Iowa, Nevada, Hawaii, Maine, Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Minnisota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Washington, and the District of Columbia? All of these states held caucuses and according to Sen. Clinton, we don't count. (If I left anyone out, please let your voice be heard). I don't understand how Sen. Clinton can stand a the podium and say that the votes of "all 50 states" must count, except for the 12+ and Dis. of Columbia.
    I will be surprised if CNN posts this since they never have posted any of my other comments in the past, but I can at least get it off my chest.

    May 21, 2008 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  20. fred

    AMEN Carolina girl!!!

    May 21, 2008 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  21. Koronin

    Carolina girl: Michigan and Florida did not hold valid Primary elections, to try and count/award those votes is nothing more than pure GOP-like tactics.

    Go point your anger where it deserves: The states legislatures.

    Get informed.

    May 21, 2008 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  22. Linned

    On May 31st the Rules Committee will seat Michigan and Florida in a manner that is fair to both candidates. Originally all candidates (Senators Clinton and Obama included) involved in the race agreed that MI & FL would not count. Let's not forget that part.

    May 21, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  23. Koronin

    Gee Danni, Byrd came before electricity so we should let him be President?

    God, These HRC supporters have no concept of reality.

    May 21, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  24. Griff

    You're still in second place...

    May 21, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  25. OKC Doc Struble

    Hey! All of you people who say that MI and FL should just be counted and seated as is are out of your bleeping minds. They knew the rules all along, but did not oppose moving their primary up at all. So quit complaining! Hillary is going to lose. Deal with it. You wanna complain about disenfranchised voters? Talk to the party leaders of MI and FL. You know what will probably actually happen? When the DNC meets on May 31st, they'll probably divide the delegates to reflect some part of the vote, and Obama will be pushed over the delegate hump. Hillary agreed to not campaign in Michigan, just like Obama, and just like Edwards, and every other candidate. She is not entitled to the delegates from a bogus contest, and should freakin cry herself to sleep at night for disenfranchising the heart of the democratic party.

    May 21, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
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