Desperation personified…. She's beginning to be tacky now…

If the superdelagates would step up around 60 of them this will be over. He has the most delagates I dont know what she wants.

They keep moving the goal posts tho, she signed a pledge said she would not let them count and now needs them and then has no chance.

I think the Clinton campaign in a trance. Come on Obama really out spend her so she will be more bankrupt.

She agreed to the DNC rules before the primaries. Why wasn't she fighting for these delegates BEFORE she started getting her butt kicked by Obama? An even better question…why are there people buying into her load of bull poop?

There are 50 states not 48. The democratic nominee will not be legitimate unless the votes of all 50 states are counted.

Clinton supporters offered a plan to pay for a re-vote in Fl and MI but Obama’s campaign refused. What is he afraid of other than losing in these two critical states?

How can voters in America who went to the polls and voted in the closest primary election in 40 years have their votes disregarded? These votes were certified by the FL and MI Board of Elections – they are legitimate votes.

So either we re-vote or we count the votes already cast. Otherwise, there is no official, legitimate nominee. Period.

"We believe the popular vote is the truest expression of your will," she said. "We believe it today just as we believed it back in 2000, when right here in Florida, you learned the hard way what happened when the votes aren’t counted and a candidate with fewer votes is declared the winner."

I wonder if she told the crowd in Palm Beach that she was one of the people who decided that their votes WOULDN'T COUNT!

She keeps forgetting that she did that.

I can't stand this woman…she will not stop until she steals the nomination from Obama.

Come on Al Gore- show Hillary how shameless and self-serving her analogy is and endorse Barack Obama!

She has no problem with the fact Obama wasnt on the ticket in MI or that they agreed before hand about the rules?

I'm trying to figure out how HIllary believes she's won more. She's only fueling her depleted ego and republicans eagerly needing fuel for Obama attacks.

All the way to the convention..fight for it Hillary….

History will reviel Hillary for what she is. A LIAR WHO WILL DO ANYTHING TO WIN. She was just fine signing the documents that said these 2 states wouldn't count and now she's on her stump preaching this garbage. Her followers are too caught up in her make believe story to see what she's doing but once time fades this will be seen for what it was. The expected nominee getting smacked upside the head by a powerful force that could not be stopped proceeded by the shreaking sound of fingernails scraping and scraping to keep up.

GOODBYE HILLARY. I was a Bill fan, although I never liked her because I could see these characteristics in her, but I tolerated her. Now I can't stand them both because of the way they've blown this race and very possibly the Dem's chances to win what should be a HANDS DOWN victory over the Repub's this year. You DISGUST me and should be ashamed of yourself for what you have done.

I say let's cout them. They will amount to nothing in the end and it will shut her up. Otherwise, you will be hearing about how Obama "stole the election" years from now. The whining will live forever in the halls of the Democratic party. The Democratic leadership and the selfish states of Florida and Michigan are total screw-ups. What the heck are rules for. Also, if the "Super Delegates" had any sort of spine then this would all be over now.

She's got her own Math, too bad she's the only one who gets it….
She's looking pretty despartate and pathetic and all the talk about looking strong in 2012 is so wrong. She'll look the same as she does now only fatter, more tired and meaner.
Good Riddence.

sure, count the votes. Obama will still win, but maybe then everyone can stop being all mad, and we can concentrate on electing a Democrat to the White House. I love my candidate of choice, but even more than that we ALL need a Democratic President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Delusional woman, GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA 08′

So now it is a violation of rights? Wasn't so when she said it was clear they weren't going to count. She signed a pledge and made it verbally clear that they were not going to count as both states violated DNC rules…once again now that she is in a bind, the rules and the goal posts continue to change…unbelievable. If she was as honest as she was tenacious, then maybe voters would have more respect for her integrity.

where were you when you sign the agreement to strip off the delegates?

Honor & Count Our Votes………….

*********Florida Demands Representation********************

****************Florida Love Hillary**************************************

*********************Go Hillary Go****************************************

Uncounted &in Florida & Boycotted by Obama Camp

Keep up the good fight, Hillary. Don't let them have anything for free.

And please please tell Mr. Empty Suit what he can do with his VP choice.

Hillary and Bill received a majority of votes from the hillbillies in Kentucky so now she definitely is a HIILLBILLY candidate. Let's get rid of her!

The Clinton strategy of ‘winning at all cost’ just started. They will twist and turn the rules shamelessly to win. It is disgracefull!

STILL TRYING TO STEAL THE NOMINATION…..

HILLARY YOU AGREED FL & MI WOULD NOT COUNT BACK IN 2007, NOW THAT YOU ARE LOSING…THEY HAVE TO COUNT…

THE DNC WILL NOT LET YOU STEAL THIS NOMINATION FROM OBAMA…..

Hillary is hurting the democratic party but she doesn't care. It is all about her. She will come up with any scenario that will give her the win, whether it abides by the rules or not. If she were ahead, she wouldn't care about Florida and Michigan at all.

If you are a Clinton, rules don't matter. Sore loser. OBAMA 08′

She didn't care if the votes counted last year when it was announced the delegates would not be seated.

I'm tired of Clinton supporters blaming this on Obama. It's not his fault. He agreed to the same rules as Clinton in 2007.

By the way, counting th votes is not fair. I didn't go out and vote for Obama because I knew my vote wouldn't count. How many others didn't go out and vote because of that? The results of the original primary are invalid because of this.

GO TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM……..SEND E-MAIL TO RULES COMMITTEE ALL VOTES SHOULD COUNT

GO HILLARY!!

Hillary I am pleading with you get out now, Yes we all know you are a fighter,but please stop thinking about yourself and focus on the american people who wants the democrats to be back in white house. you keep comming up the different excuses why you are continuing, but I know the people in your camp knows better. Just look at Bill's facial expression last nite at you victory speak. James carvelle was not loud and abravises this morning on CNN's American Morning.

If I understand Hillary correctly, her silent outrage in 2000 has now grown to righteous indignity in reference to Florida's failure to once again act within the framework of proper procedures. Would she be just as adamant if all the votes there were for Barack…

Can the American people see through the hype of empty promises for change offered by Sen. Obama?
Yes We Can!

WE DONT NEED ANOTHER CLIN TON. (SING IT WITH ME) WE DONT NEED ANOTHER CIN TON!

I HOPE MCCAIN WINS BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT DESERVE THE OFFICE, AND OBAMA IS TOO GOOD FOR IT. HOW CAN SLICK HILLIE SUPPORTERS THINK SEXISUM IS WORST THEN RACEISUM. TRY ASKING A BLACK WOMEN WHAT IS WORST. I THINK IT IS SEXIUM FOR HER SUPPORTERS TO THINK SHE SHOULD GET IT JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMEN. LOOK, FOR A JR. SENITOR IT IS FUNNY THAT HE HAS THE SAME VIEWS AS SHE DOES AND IN HALF THE TIME. AFTER 35 YEARS OF SERVICE SHE HAS COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS AS HE HAS IN JUST 10 YEARS. GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN. OBAMA WILL BE 50 IN 2012 AND STILL READY TO RUN. HOW OLD WILL SLICK HILLIE BE? 66. DO YOU THINK SHE WILL BE THINKING ABOUT RUNNING THEN? NOT

If it is so important for their votes to count then why did she sign a piece of paper saying that they should be punished and not counted at the beginning of the race? Are we so short sighted as to think this has anything to do with voters being disenfrachised. It has everything to do with Hillary doing whatever it takes to win. She will pull hair, bite, and spit just to come closer to winning. You can't win. Please come back to the real world with the rest of us, and let's focus on the real enemy.

I don’t understand why some people would feel that Clinton deserves a break by now counting Florida and Michigan delegates. Fifteen months ago, all Democratic candidates including Clinton signed a pledge to obey the rules and to ignore the results from the Presidential Primaries in both states. No matter what…everyone should follow that rules. It is disingenuous to change the rules now. That’s the reason why I no longer support Clinton, now and forever.

Shame on those people for consistently ignoring this very simple fact!

GO GET THEM HILLARY

HILLARY 08

I have never seen a more vindictive, mean-spirited, self-serving woman in all my life. I pray that all the super delegates will line up behind Obama in the coming weeks to show her that this race is over.

I'm so sick of Hillary antics.

Anyone ever see the scene in the movie Stripes where Sgt Hulka has all the soldiers in a line and is trying to find out who was talking while he was and he threatens punishment for the entire platoon if the culprit doesn't step forward. Then Bill Murray postures as if he's going to step forward but then steps back leaving an innocent Harold Ramis to take the hit. When it comes to the Michigan vote, Hillary is Bill Murray!

This is PATHETIC!

What happened in 2000 in Flordia was clearly Flordia's fault.She is quoting rules now.The rules also say that if any state broke the rules and voted early that their delegates would not count at all.Now she says that they must be counted as was voted bogusly.At this point she is trying to set all of the rules and numbers to follow.The DNC says they will do what is fair to both candidates.I'm sure that Clinton's campaign will say that anything short 0of handing it to her on a silver platter is not fair.

Unbelievable.

She has the popular vote lead, if you count Florida and Michigan, but then you can't count some of the caucus states (who followed the rules). So then it's not OK to "disenfranchise" voters in Florida or Michigan (or for normal people in this case, that would be "make them follow the rules"), but it is OK to disenfranchise the states that did?

This gets more incredulous everyday…

This Florida voter says: Count my vote!

Rules…. we don't need no stinkin rules!!!!! Bah humbug to DNC rules that were agreed on!!!!

This is a horrible picture of her - but accurate. How can one NOT be tired after relentless campaign stops?

If this was about the popular vote, why would Hillary state at the beginning of the campaign that the pledged delegates were of the utmost importance? If it's all about the popular vote, why would the Democratic party have caucuses?

When is someone going to call her out on these misleading remarks? Please end this process so that we can focus on November!!!! We are all on the same team here and this constant misleading of the general public based on what you deem to be the facts is not productive in any way.

The Democratic National Comm. needs to step in and explain in no uncertain terms that Sen. Clinton agreed to NOT have Fl. and Mi. counted. She is not allowed to flip-flop on this issues. Period end of story.

However, I have been amazed at the lack of a backbone that the Democratic party has shown. Even more suprising, are all of the people (on both Clinton's side and Obama's side) that continue the in-fighting of this party. Not to mention, the increasingly nasty tone of these exchanges.

Dems, you are voting to change this adminstration and to remove the Replicans from office. Why can you not see that you want the same thing?

It is amazing how bitter and hateful people are towards other people that want the same solutions as they do.

Keep DREAMING Hill. Wonder which world you live in. OBAMA 08

""" The campaign also revealed a new metric by which to gauge their late-blooming momentum this primary season: Since the end of February and excluding previous contests, said spokesman Mo Elleithee, Clinton has won more contests, more delegates and the overall popular vote."""

ONLY COUNTING THE NUMBERS THAT SUITE YOU BEST -

SHAME ON YOU! You're discounting all the votes before - what happend to EVERY counts? Even caucases!

She looks really beat up and tired. I hope her health will hold up long enough for her to recover from this campaign. I feel so sad to see her like this she needs to think about her legacy and her future. i hope someone will be there to help her win this is over.

Ya… count it in my score even if it was foul.

look at that evil face of hers. she will sell america to pay her debt

she's determined to see every vote counted. She's $19.5 million in debt, hopelessly behind and probably further damaging the party's chances in November, but no big deal. This is all about Hillary.

Hey FLORIDA people, she didn't think your vote is so important till she fall behind Obama.

PLEASE DON"T LET HER DESTROY THE PARTY!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

Living in a State where the GOP usually manages to win, albeit by smaller and smaller margins; if the DNC changes the rules now then our integrity will have been sacrificed to satisfy the super ego of one woman whose real agenda isn't the election of Democrats so much as it is her own agenda. We have an outside chance of carrying Nevada this time but only if the rules are kept. Out here things like this still matter. They matter a lot.

I am sorry…perhaps I am dense, but how can she insist that the delegates be seated based on the primaries when Obama was not even on one of the ballots. As for the other state, they had agreed not to campaign…SHE AGREED TO THIS AND THEN SHE CAMPAIGNED ANYWAY! She is a cheat and a liar. If the Democratic Pary falls for this and supports her claim in any way…I will have to seriously rethink my support of the Party.

Boca Raton? Was that on purpose. She should have started in a city like "Fort" Lauderdale or "Fort" Myers, a place that sounds like where a fighter would go. But "rat mouth" is symbolic, too. Hmmm.

Good luck lady.

Just like the stereotypical woman, always changing goal post just to win an argument.

First Florida and Michigan do not count, and now that she needs them to, they do.

Hillary has successfully confirmed every stereotypical fear that people have about nominating a woman for the highest office in the land.

You Ma'am, have set women in the US back 50 years.

Oy the live long vey.

I am a middle-aged white woman who wants so desperately to take you seriously, but every time you come up with a new metric that miraculously reveals you to be ahead in the primary, I realize I can't believe anything you say. The only consistent message you have sent during this entire primary season is that you will say whatever it takes and do whatever it takes to win, no matter how absurd or insulting it is to the voters. Some of us have our estrogen block on and are actually paying attention.

Okay I'll buy that, ya lets add Florida (as skewed and one sided as it ws since you were the only one who did ANY campaigning there), then we'll get those "uncommitted" votes from Michigan to count for Obama; since he and Edwards were both on the ballot there and Edwards has now endorsed Obama it only makes sense, its only fair to give those peopel avoice too right?!…

How does your math for the popular vote work out there Billary…?

When you sign an agreement the judges always ask did you read and understand what you where signing? If you answer yes then they will always go against you. Did Sen. Clinton and her campaign NOT agree that Florida and Michigan not count if they voted earlier then agreed to before. So what is the problem, why is she now saying that their votes should count HER way. I am confused about the America politics. Please help me out.

When will the SD's come in if not now??

she knows how the rules can be changed with certaintly, but doesn't seem to understant the actual rules themselves.

I am amazed by this woman!… Win at any cost!… Unamerican!

How many of you think this crazy woman isn't going to take this all the way to the convention????

She does not get that the majority of the democrats that are in office doesn't even want her, what SD in their right mind is looking at her when she makes these speaches, and not thinking she is out of her freakin mind!

Where are the men in the white coats??
Someone needs to put her in a staight jacket and give her a rubber room or you paint a lot of heads on the wall and she would think she is still campaigning

Now it is exactly as they are counted. She is sooooooooooo pathetic I never would have thought.

She keeps talking about sexism how many exit polls have people openly come out and stated they were not voting for her do to her gender? But in WV and KY they proudly state the race is a factor in why they voted.

Call a whaaaaabulance for all the Obamabots. Hilly is correct, Every vote should be counted. Deal with it, get over it. She is fighting for our future and still has a shot at being our next president.

Hillary -08

OMG, she is out of her mind (if she has one mind).

This is ridiculous. Clinton clearly does not, and will not, ever have the popular vote in this primary. She is behind Obama in every stat: popular vote, pledged delegates, and states won. She is $19.5 Million in debt. It is a shame that she took a little boy's bicycle money to continue to support this farce.

This 'popular vote' nonsense is just another Clinton lie - like raising $10 Mil in one day or Bosnian sniper fire. She wants to steal this election and it's going to be a sad sorry day in America if and when she does.

Here is the thing… to make it "fair" like all Clinton supporters are claiming it isn't then they must re-vote entirely. All this would do is give Obama more delegates to reach 2026. It won't close her gap. I really wish people would stop crying about this because it is straight forward. They broke the rules… there was a vote for punishment, which Clinton agreed to, and the punishment was handed down. That is the democratic way of doing things, so I am sorry Florida and Michigan you won't be lending you hand in the primary vote.

The real truth is about help Hillary win and at the same time blame it to Obama!

Not too long ago when she thought she was the INEVITABLE NOMINEE, she SIGNED AGREEMENT NOT TO COUNT the votes in FL and MI!

Hillary is such a DISGRACE!

….and stop putting this on Obama.

Both of those states came up with plans to seat their delegates and it was Hillary who refused those proposals not Obama.

The issue of counting the votes in Florida and Michigan is not necessary, Senator Clinton knew what happening in January when they went ahead of their time to hold the voting. So why does she keeps speaking about something that she accepted a few months ago? Senator Clinton is desperate, also is it true that Obama is not on one of the ballots in one of the states? Is she playing fair? I'm a democrat and who ever get nominated for running for president that is the person that I am choosing. Honestly, she needs to stop.

OH NO…she didn't just go there. OMG - what other bag of tricks does she have in store?

Recount of 2000 an analogy to her changing the party rules that she signed in agreement before the primary???

Dear Hillary:

3 Questions:
Do you pray with that mouth?
Do you have a moral center?
Do you really believe these lies?

Hillary I have always liked you and I think you would make a great president but you are not going to win this one. I am sorry! Sure seat MI and FL— but you have to do it evenly because it would not be fair otherwise. Obama didn't campaign there nor was his name on the ticket in MI– that would be unfair to seat them as is. I know of people who didn't even vote because Obama wasn't on the ticket, and they some didn't vote because they knew it would not matter because their state officials broke the rules… I am sorry but that is just how it is. This is why we have RULES that ALL states need to follow and they didn't so tough. If they do choose to seat the delegates it needs to be split down the middle otherwise it is not far at all.

Democrats 08

I will second that spencer….all the way to the convention!!!!

GO HILLARY!!

Then according to Clinton's own statements that mean we must also count the caucus votes too….and Obama would still be ahead in the popular vote.

I will support whoever the nominee is but COME ON CLINTON…can't just change the rules to suit you now.

This is crazy - "It is well within the Democratic party rules" [Clinton]
It's also in the rules not to change the date of the primary, or are we going to ignore that rule as it doesn't help her?

Look count Florida, and the other state and then only count Primaries and then only chose a candidate on the popular vote, not the delegate count, or what the super delegates say - lets just change all the rules to help Clinton -

This is getting old quickly -

Are you kidding me? She's asking to distribute the delegates according to how the states have already voted? Obama wasn't even on the ticket in Michigan. This is idiocy in its purest form. This is not a game.

This woman is relentless. Why were these votes not important when she thought she didn’t need them? Now that she is losing (or lost), they are utmost important. She mars the lines of democracy to favor her own selfish goals. She is poison to her party and to this country

She insists she is “more electable…” Well, if she was, wouldn’t the numbers (delegates, fundraising dollars, etc) indicate that?

Sen Clinton is wrong about the 2000 vote count. Every vote WAS counted, more than twice. Democrats have never accepted that they lost the election and looked really foolish in requiring all those re-counts which all turned out the same way. It is a lie to keep stating that people were dissed or that there was irregularity in the Florida votes in 2000. This state has very strong voting laws to protect all voters who are properly registered, and has had these votes for decades. Check them out for yourself and see that Florida's voting system is and has always been tops in this country.

Woman to Woman
Hillary why are you still in the race???
Have more dirty tricks up your sleeves???IT NAH WUK.
Or more Bosnia's sniper fire…talk about a woman who would do anything to win.
But girlfriend do the good thing for a change now …SAY YOU HAD ONLY WANTED TO SHOW OBAMA YOU COULD OF CARRIED SWING STATES JUST LIKE HIM…then bow out gracefully…and with some dignity.

She conveniently leaves out that she herself agreed that Florida and Michigan should not count in the first place. She is an opportunist, the only reason she feels all votes should count now is so she can pick up more delegates.

I believe they should be counted, but fairly. She was offered a fair split of michigans votes, but declined because it didn't favor her enough.

I'm an independant, who votes for the person I feel is the best representative of me and who would lead this country back to prosperity. I feel that's Barrack Obama. The thing is given the past 7 and 1/2 yrs, I would have voted for whomever was the Democatic Nomonee. Even if it were Clinton.

OBAMA 08′

What is all this? First, winning the nomination was all about superdelegates; then it came to winning the big states; then no Democratic nominee has won the national election without Ohio, PA, WV and KY (in that order). Now, every vote should count because it's all about the popular vote.

And the Republicans are having a field day! Will someone tell Hillary that enough is enough? She has already said that Obama won't win in November, so why can't she bide her time and compete again in 2012? This is getting ridiculous and the Democratic leadership should call it for what it is…. Clinton is power hungry and will stop at nothing to destroy the party.

Hillary Loser, Hillary the cry baby. Once a loser, always a loser. Get over it . It is over. The ship sailed since Super Tuesday.

She is just trying to get ready for 2012, as she spent so much time/money/energy anway.

Come on Hillary, get on the team for God's sake. We need you and the supporters that you have in order to beat McCain. This is about what America wants, and what is best for America wants. It's not about what you or your husband wants, or about his candidacy. You and your husband are the standard bearers for this party, and what does it say about us when you are trashing our candidate and our process? Stop! please….you ran a strong campaign, but your campaigns arrogance is what did you in…you still crushed so many barriers. Please stop this!

So why did she agree with the rules and now she is against them.. Because she is looking for POWER, that's it. Everybody should know by now this is her goal.. Nobody campain in both state why now counting votes for herself her BIG EGO..

Obama, I think you'd better end your Victory Tour pronto; it's going to look silly in hindsight.

Have a revote already, and call it a day, so sick of this…

What she needs is a good strong man to put her over his knee and paddle her bottom until she learns how to behave.

opppps. Was that a sexist comment?

This is absolutely ridiculous! Why don't the wuss superdelegates end this circus?! This woman is doing nothing now but wasting precious time that should be focused on the general election. I cannot believe the DNC is allowing this to go on. Unbelievable!!!

ch - the people who should pay for the actions of FL and MI are not the voters, but the people who put them in this predicament — which INCLUDES Hillary Clinton and her campaign. Look it up: a re-vote will not be fair, because anyone who voted in the Republican primary, believing their vote in the Democratic primary would not count — AS THEY WERE TOLD — could not vote in the new primary. It's just another example of something that Clinton says that sounds good, until you think about it for five seconds and check the facts.

so she's working hard to count Fl and MI so they won't be disenfranchised…. in order to bolster her claim to disenfranchise the other 48 states that clearly have Obama winning by every conceivable metric.

interesting argument. lol

Now I know I will not vote for Hilary under any circumstance. We are to let her exit gracefully, no criticism and yet she can call for new metrics by the day everytime it doesn't go in her favor. Well the democratic party may have just lost a long time supporter if they let her get by with this stuff. I would love to see every unpledged superdelegate support Obama just to put a stop to this nonsense. I was willing to listen and let the voters vote but this is not FAIR. She and Florida & Michigan knew the rules going in. What about all those people that didn't vote because they thought the votes didn't count? Can they now send in a ballot and have it counted since she wants to know the true will of "ALL" the voters? I hope this gets posted

She is flatly annoying……….now its about since end of february?

Unfortunately, Clinton only likes to bring up the rules she would like to abide by when they are in her favor. What happend to the rule that said if you push your primary up - the delegates would not be seated. Does she even recall that. And how do you call the process democratic when your competitor is not on the ballot. "Let's see - you can select from the following candidates ME, me, and Me. " Now let's get those delegates seated.

Jack, Huckabization which states that “You don’t quit until someone gets all the delegates” is tactically and strategically stupid. First, it ignores: The costs, odds, and common sense. Senator Clinton, for that matter, is doing herself or party any good.

Instead, NY Senator is:
Draining IL Senator out of cash
Exposing his vulnerability with certain voting bloc
Giving her supporters false hope which is difficult to undo
and the list goes on etc.

Why is Hillary showing such concern about the 2000 Florida recount, now? She didn't show so much concern then…she was too busy running for NY Senator. As a Floridian, I am highly insulted by her pandering~!!

For Hillary to say this would "disenfranchise" the Florida/Michigan voters, what about the people in Florida and Michigan who didn't vote because they were told it wouldn't count according to the rules. If you use the previous votes, it would disenfranchise the people that were told it wouldn't count. ONLY way Florida/Michigan can count is if there is a revote.

Am I the only one who remembers that it was Terry McAuliffe, who is now running her campaign, who was the head of the DNC when these rules were put in place? Everybody carries on about Howard Dean, but he's only enforcing the rules set up by TM, the DLC (Lieberman, Clinton, et al).

She needs to bow out, and wait for Obama to nominate her for the Supreme Court.

Does she need some professional help out of this thing I am worried about her!

Funny America!… U can say i win even when u lose.. Only in America! .. ya.. that is the beauty of America!… The impossible is possibe here in America. ( the world is laughing at this woman!)

I believe Obama advertised in Florida prior to the election. So why does Hillary's stance come as a surprise to anyone? He broke the rules, so let's just count the votes and do this right. It's 50 states not 48 or 57, you will need FL and MI in the general. Talk about bitting off your nose to spite your face!

Well she is obviously not going to exit the stage with any sort of grace. This is sad, and it is even worse that the media is covering her spin without adding the proper context.

The 2000 Florida recount is a completely separate issue. Disenfranchisement applies to the right of citizens to vote (and have their votes count) in a general election.

There is no such right in a primary contest. The DNC made the rules for electing a person to be the nominee in the general election. Florida and Michigan broke those rules so their primaries are not valid.

Hillary is proving that she will say and do anything to get elected. That is not an admirable trait. The country has suffered through eight years of a say anything and do anything president. We don't need another four. Hillary enough is enough.

When is someone going to talk these points in the news:

That by saying the popular vote is "the will of the people", that she is actually trying to "disinfranchising" all those voters that participated in the Caucuses all around the country.

Secondly: The next election season would be utter caos if those two states were not punished for moving up their primaries. So my point is, how would counting or seating all the delegates in those two states be fair to all the other 48 states that followed the rules?

Thirdly: If she did not like the rules of the Democratic party when she joined it, then she should have NOT joined the Democratic party.

My point: This is a democratic party primary…NOT A GENERAL ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT!!

She is going by the Rules according to Clinton. She was o.k. with the rules as long as she thought she would be the winner. Someone should tell her the more she cries about this, the bigger looser she becomes. Supedelagates, do your job, and stop this crazy women. We need a united party to win in Nov.

How hard would she be fighting to NOT seat these delegates, if seating them DECREASED her chances to become the first woman president of the US?

I don't think Clinton can argue with a "sexist" bid. Nobody has been sexist here. She's playing the victim. EVEN IF they had been sexist, she can't complain when she's played the role of a typical housewife who forgives her husband's infidelities… yes, he had more women than lewinsky. Look it up.

What kind of woman allows her husband to cheat on her and still stay with him?? How can any women stand by her after this, especially feminists?? This does not show a STRONG character, it only shows us that she's willing to put up with Bill in order to have political power…. because who votes for a divorced politician??

Whatever, I'm a woman, and I don't see Obama as sexist. Clinton is simply spinning any story to get elected. Remember, she's the "Do and Say Anything Candidate".

Chill out, Woman!! Typical women political pandering, whining, and complaining!!

I don't have a problem with women in the highest political office. In fact, I voted for Bill Clinton, I have gone to Clinton rallies…I even supported her until a year ago when I started doing my reasearch and realized she wasn't who I thought she was. I would LOVE to see a woman president in my time, but it's just not Hillary after all her negatity and corruption. Thanks, but NO THANKS!!!

P.S. She is fighting to get MI and FL votes arguing that she wants to count everyone's vote (just so she can be ahead in popular vote)………HOWEVER, in doing so she is disenfranchising the voters who voted in the caucuses!! Talk about hypocrisy!!! BTW, popular vote does not win you an election, just ask Al Gore.

the rules said they don't count.you are starting to believe the delusion, you are promoting.you signed the rules that punished mich. and fla. ,so, go away!

I believe Obama advertised in Florida prior to the election. So why does Hillary's stance come as a surprise to anyone? He broke the rules, so let's just count the votes and do this right. It's 50 states not 48 or 57, you will need FL and MI in the general. Talk about bitting off your nose to spite your face!

Counting votes as they were cast is such CRAP…how could she even suggest something so stupid.

Of course she was singing a different tune when she still considered herself the "inevitable" nominee. She signed a statement pledging not to campaign in those states and is on record as saying that they broke the rules and their votes would not count.

Why do you not call her on this? I am sick of seeing Clinton surrogates come on TV and say whatever they want without being challenged by anyone as to the veracity of what they are saying.

Also, CNN - STOP bashing Obama at every turn just because you can't believe that Hillary will not be the Democratic nominee. You are doing everything to destroy his candidacy and whether you admit it or not you do have influence on voters who rely on you as their main source of reporting.

Hillary's rule: change it when you need it, customise it, make it happen, make it fit, I must win, you're the loser, I'm the winner……..Mmmm just like my 4 years old son. Hillary go give ……. to Bill or else he'll be looking, you know.

this is very sad…any one that thinks this woman is seeking the unity if the party is fooling themselves…

One question Prior to the primary, was the Clinton campaign in agreement that the state primary should NOT count based on their flaunting of the DNC's ruling? \One answer - Yes she was.

Hillary Clinton - hypocrite.

Fifty year old white Texan for Obama

Clintons only care about people when it is politically beneficial.

If Clinton STEALS the nomation from Obama… then I will do as Clinton supporters said they would…. write-in Obama's name. How do you like that??

Hillary, please go away.

She didn't care about Florida and Michigan when she was ahead. Now that she's behind it is the biggest issue of the campaign.

Originally she agreed that Florida and Michigan wouldn't count. What do you think she would do if she was in Obama's shoes? Would she be trying to include Florida and Michigan? I think not!

Are u serious!!!!!!!!!! This is ridiculous. How spoiled, arrogant, conceited and egotistical can you be? Are we now going to say that the presidential democratic nomination contests really started in March? So next we will be saying, we should only count those states which she was the winner.

Please,
give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many times can she try to change the goalposts? How desperate! Someone should record her rants and play them back to her. She has every right to stay in the race, but she doesn't have the right to change the rules. Sure Florida and Michigan voters–all voters have the right to be heard. No one talks about the voters who chose to not go to the polls because they were told their votes wouldn`t count. She does not care about them, because they might be Obama voters. OBAMA 08

talk about arrogance, astounding - Clinton's - it's time to limp off the stage!!! Obama should offer her nothing, not one concession, her behavior is repulsive and so typically Clinton… the country owes those two slimes, NOT.

I'm somewhat appalled by individuals that call clinton supporters racist. Speaking as an African American I don't believe his race affected my decision at all I support clinton because of her policy and experience. I do believe that Race has worked in Obama's favor; I simply have a hard time believing that 92% of African Americans have voted for OBama because they like his policy. That i believe is where racism has come into play. it is not from the clinton camp.
IN addition I believe that when Obama is the nominee CLinton should be his VP those that question her integrity and imply that malice would overshadow her ability to do her job must not be educated or are simply ignorant. imagine 16 years of a democratic America. That's my America.
is it yours?

she had 12 people at her rally in fla. obama's rally in fla. was packed.hahahahahaha.i'd love a revote.hillary would not win.

Another day, another new set of primary rules from the Clinton campaign.

Clinton supporters offered a plan to pay for a re-vote in Fl and MI but Obama’s campaign refused. What is he afraid of other than losing in these two critical states?

Well pay your campaign debts first…..stop the hypocrazy and pay your debts first and then talk of paring for the revote…….

She is so pathetic. I Will vote for McCain if she is on the ticket as VP because she is that damaging.

go girl go show them all especially jack cafferty…..dees he not make you ill………………..honestly…………a man scorned by a woman LOL……………desperately in need. Give thenm all HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Girl Go Madame President NO DOUBT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You Obama supporters make me sick with all the hate that you spew. Grow up if you have nothing of substance to contribute shut up. America land of the Obama loving Hypocrits. Campaign o change huh. You should look in the mirror once in a while and see how closley you follow your candidate lead. Oh yea we really don't have to do it just say we are going to. Your media has destroyed a woman who has spent her life working for the citizens of this country. If you guy is so far ahead let the votes count. If he is so Inevitable why disenfranchize so many voters. I don't like any of you so how about you all drop out….anyone….I thought not. Congradulations your guy just lost my vote. I am now voting for McCain.

It's hilarious to watch Obama the last few days pandering for the demographic blocs that back Hillary . He's going to show up any day with a rifle in one hand and a moonshine jug in the other and try to tell us he's just a good ole boy..
If Clinton supporters had wanted him, we would have voted for him in the first place.

I know CNN will never print this because they never print what I write. Here goes anyway -

Please Hillary, it's been a great run, but the math speaks for itself. The rules are the rules - Michigan and Florida will be counted, but it won't change the fact that it's just not your time. You've been of tremendous service and have done amazing things for the democratic party and for women in the world, but please do not ruin our party because you want to get your way. It's time for unity!!! We need to beat John McCain in the fall, and the longer it takes for the democrats to come together, the easier it is for McCain to go unchallenged. The longer it takes, the greater the chances are of a third Bush term and the USA can't handle that, neither can the world.

Start taking the high road! It's time. Let it go!!!

She's turning FLA Democrats against the parties nominee….that is quasi-treason to the DNC. Someone needs to step up (preferably behind her with an ether soaked rag) but never the less.

this women changes the rules every week anything to when Im from Ohio and I think after the NBA playoffs are over the Cleveland Cavaliers should play in the final game because we have Lebron James and he has a better chance of beating the winning team. This is not the way the rules go or is it

this woman is like a bad nightmare that never ends!!!

I'm sure of one thing this is going to be a supa mega hell of a mess for the dem…and it's just sooooooooo GOOD for the Republicans…Yessssssssss!!!Come on dems keep on that way and one more time you will loose these elections

ch May 21st, 2008 4:19 pm ET

There are 50 states not 48. The democratic nominee will not be legitimate unless the votes of all 50 states are counted.

Clinton supporters offered a plan to pay for a re-vote in Fl and MI but Obama’s campaign refused. What is he afraid of other than losing in these two critical states?

How can voters in America who went to the polls and voted in the closest primary election in 40 years have their votes disregarded? These votes were certified by the FL and MI Board of Elections – they are legitimate votes.

So either we re-vote or we count the votes already cast. Otherwise, there is no official, legitimate nominee. Period.

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Well said unless you're obama and then there are 57 states!

I've said it before - if the shoe were on the other foot would she be in favor of those votes!! What if she was only 60 votes away from the nomination and Obama 200 down, would those States be so important to her. NO - she and Bill would have been insisting that he concede 2 months ago! What part of "rules" does she not understand. She was very willing to abide by those rules prior to those two States conducting their primaries. If she doesn't support the DNC rules, how can we expect her to abide by "rules" in the White House??? Give it up Hillary -it's over, it's been over!

She makes me sad and angry. I'll leave it at that.

Please let it END!!!

Does she recall agreeing not to campaign? I understand she signed some documents to that effect. Does she expect all of the votes in Michigan? Does she agree with disenfranchising voters who obeyed the rules and rewarding those who broke them ( herself included)? Is this persuasive evidence that she is electable?

Oh, PLEASE. The media has definitely been giving her a free run for her money on this one. Can someone please call her out already?

I find it funny and disappointing at the same time that months earlier, the SAME Clinton campaign that stated explicitly that Michigan and Florida had broken the rules and should be punished for it is the SAME campaign that now wants to seat the delegates "exactly as they were cast". Hypocrisy doesn't get any finer than that, folks.

Though I agree that it would hurt the party if they didn't seat at least some of Florida and Michigan's delegates, I don't think seating them as they were cast would be a smart or fair move. With primary dates being as important as they are in the U.S., it would be very dangerous to not punish the states for moving their dates up even after being warned not to. If both of these states aren't punished, it definitely leaves open the opportunity for other states to move up their dates in future primaries as well (which would make one wonder why they haven't dealt with this problem already. Maybe rotating primary dates, anyone?)

ch…

Bill and Hill grossed $109 million. Don't tell me they couldn't affort a recount. Barack doesn't need to refinance a recount. He agreed to the DNC rules. However, Barack stated he was willing to seat all the delegates and allow the vote to count under a fair decision. He was even suggesting a 55% to 45% in favor of Hillary. But she's $20 million in debt and wants an 80 / 20 percentage.

Talk about elite. $109 Million and your campaign is broke, yeah right!

This woman is sick, shame on me,….. why?……. because I was leaning to her, I used to like her, now I realize how badly wrong I was, if I only could take back my vote for her, I would have voted for Obama.

More hate from the Clinton camp….

Hillary did a very good speech earlier today in FL, and she made a good point. Hillary leads the popular vote if FL and MI vote counts. Every candidate's name was on the ballot in FL so FL votes should definitely count, and maybe a revote should be held in MI. More democrats want Hillary for president. She's supported by the majority of democrats.

GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Under the DNC rules; if elections are held against the rules - such as were in Michigan & Florida - on appeal, only half of the delegates can be awarded. Second; if a candidate campaigns in a state in which the date was moved, that candidate may not receive any delegates. HRC does not understand the rules. It is not within DNC rules to count all votes as they were cast in Michigan and Florida as these two were punished for moving the dates. READ THE DNC RULES ON THE DNC WEBSITE. Its the end of the road of HRC. No miracle can twist the numbers.

Meck. Vancouver.

The republican controlled legislature and the republican governor signed the bill that changed FL's primary dates and now the Obama backers, are saying Hillary did it please, Obama thinks he'll win the GE, 95% of the vote of 17% of the population doesn't win you the Presidency, if Dems nominate Obama they are going to LOSE! Especially in a year where they ahd a lay-up win! This idiodacy will be spoke of for years to come! He wins most of his delegate lead in states like N. Dakota and S. Dakota, please, I have big news for you the republicans will win those states in a landslide no matter who the Dems nominate! GO HILLARY!!

Disgusting.She really thinks she can hoodwink her supporters into think they are being disenfranchised by innuendo and half truths. No wonder only the uneducated vote for her.

If Clinton "feels so strongly about this" why did she agree to not counting the votes before the primary began. This is shameless, but perhaps that is what it takes to be a good politician, no shame.

She agree to the rules and this is NOT like 2000 and she knows it! I truly hate HRC and when she LOSES "officially" I hope she is cast from the political scene and her sad pathetic career is permanently damaged forever!

She is NOT only trying to win at all cost but she IS diving this party on purpose. F strategy if she can't win she is going to make sure the Democratic name is damaged forever!

What a sad and pathetic woman!

Madame Clinton, Democracy is first and foremost about upholding the rules each and every one of you agreed upon: Yourself, Obama, The Democratic party in Florida and Michigan, and the DNC. To backpedal and reneg on those rules is pathetic at best and UNDEMOCRATIC at worst. I beg you Madame Clinton to cling on to any shred of conscience you may have left!

Its a shame that the two most backwards, racsist states voted so late in the primary season. Kentucky and west Virginia's inbred populace gave Hillary a false sense of victory.

Like Bush, she just wants to change the rules when they don't mesh with her goals.

For everyone out there wondering why things have gotten so ugly between Barack and Hillary supporters, please take note of hillary's speech and ever changing positions on multiple topics. Everytime I try to look at her in a more positive light and try to support her decision to remain in the campaign even though she has no real chance of winning (legitimately!), she comes out again with inane comments.

I am in total agreement that Fl and MI need to be seated but they also need to be penalized. Hillary's pandering quickly covers up the fact that she was completely aware of the penalties to be applied to the states and signed off on the agreement just like Barack, John edwards, and other candidates. Barack was true to his word while it appears as though Hillary is trying to go back on hers for selfish reasons.

If she wa truly standing up for the citizens of these states, she would have done so at the time and not after the fact. This reminds me of her whole NAFTA position. "I was against it even though I helped to campaign for it."

i just heard that 85 superdelegates,will be endorsing obama ,tomorrow.it's finally over.she has to get out ,now,whether she wants to or not.

She really looks exhausted in this photo…

By stating she wants the FL and MI votes to count now, her protest seems so disingenuous and self serving, because she agreed to the rules in the begining.

FL & MI knew the rules, and they decided to break them. There were voters who didn't go to vote because they knew their votes wouldn't count. Now to reward the people who did go is NOT fair!!!!!

Hillary's plan for revotes placed exclusions on who would be allowed in the revote. Therefore, that plan was not fair.
Hillary clearly stated that she knew that these votes "would not count" when she was ahead. Now that she is behind, she "cares" about the votes.
Why aren't people addressing this last point?

She is doing this because 1.7 million came out to vote and alot for her. Obama would do the same thing if he was in her position. She is not speaking for a mere 10 thousand votes its millions. Rules should be broken when an election is this close and with the millions that came to vote. The DNC and Dean won't count them or they will after Obama has the nomination locked in. Dean will be the reason the party is split in Nov. because this can be overturned easily in Florida. Michigan is different Obama's name wasn't there so they should be split 50/50. Hillary should get all Florida's delegates as people voted for whom they wanted with their names on the ticket.

Can't help put pipe in again….I really think that she has lost her mind…she had all of the chances over the past week to leave in a graceful and respectful fashion…and instead she is tilting at windmills…she is making a joke of herself and her campaign…plus she will have a hard time being elected dogcatcher going forward. I am actually starting to feel sorry for her, she is obviously delusional.

Even if they had a re-vote, Michigan would be split 50/50, if not in Obama's favor since it's right next to Illinois. And all the people who voted Edwards in Florida would vote for Obama, making it again, split even. It would get her nowhere, though Obama would probably get the delegates he needs to get the nomination and leave her looking liek a fool.

Hillary, you contradict yourself so much it's disgusting. Lying about dodging sniper fire is Bosnia. When Florida and Michigan violated the rules, you voted that they should not be counted, and once the votes came in your favor, now you wanted them counted? It's no wonder non-college educated people go for you, they don't bother taking time to separtate the fact from fiction. Not only that, many of them vote for you because you're white or an annoying stubborn feminist that will vote for someone solely on the fact that you're a woman, even if your integrity is questionable and you play dirty politics. As a woman, integrity is WAY more important.

LOOK HILLARY!!! YOU AGREED THE VOTES WOULDN'T COUNT, STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE RULES BECAUSE YOU'RE LOSING! ITS NOT FAIR AND I DON'T WANT A PRESIDENT THAT CHANGES THE RULES FOR THEIR OWN SELF GAIN!!!!!!!!!! ISN'T THAT WHAT BUSH DID?

And to all you Hillary supports screaming that Obama blocked the recount, think about it, if the situation was reversed do you think Hillary would be fighting this hard for those votes to count? NO! When she thought she was shoe-in she signed the agreement.

She's making a fool out of herself. I'd actually like to see the remainder of the candidates who signed the DNC paperwork that they agreed not to participate in Florida and Michigan come forward and say something about this. Unfortunately, there is a constant myth that Hillary is perpetuating about seating Florida and Michigan as is and it will come back on her in the long run.

She needs to allow the rules committee to look at all scenarios before making a complete decision. Ultimately, trying to cheat your way through a nomination is no different than athletes using performance-enhancing drugs to up their game.

Time to give it up Hillary and start acting like a real woman and not a victim of the system, you signed the paperwork, you agreed to the rules set before the party and you just don't like the results - TOO BAD, SO SAD.

The 2000 election is unrelated to the current problem the DNC faces with the votes from Florida & Michigan. Florida & Michigan violated the rules, rules which Clinton agreed to until it became a disadvantage for her. I am the first to agree that voters shouldn't be disenfranchised but Florida & Michigan do need to be penalized in some way and if you're not going to follow the rules, why have them. The DNC needs to find a way to penalize Florida & Michigan without disenfranchising the voters. The end result will probably not benefit Clinton in the way that she wants and depending on what she does, it could divide the party resulting in a lost election the Democrats should have easily won. She might want to consider how voters will view her if we end up with another 4 years of Bush policies. If she wants any future in politics, she should consider that very seriously.

I personally think Senator Clinton suffers from the "Scarlet O'Hara"
syndrome.

Notice how Sen. Clinton's revisionist math doesn't include the pledged delegates from the CAUCUSES, because then she couldn't catch Obama. She protects the enfranchisement of voters only if and when it serves her purpose.

What I don't understand and never will, are Hillary supporters who just say "GO get them Hillary" and "All the way to Denver"

Didn't she sign an agreement saying that FL and MI woulnd't count? Isn't it the DNC RULES that if a state changes it primary date they can be discounted? So now, why is it so noble of her to be demanding their votes count - Just tell me why the rules should be changed? Why - Seriously, I want to hear from an educated Hillary supporter!

So let me get this straight. She never ever cared about MI & FL until she was behind, and she agreed that the votes would not count but now she wants them to count in full? Even the RNC cut their delegates in half in Fl & MI and sources say that's probably what the DNC is going to do here. We can't set rules and then break them just because one person doesn't like them.

On top of that, now only the states that voted after the end of February really matter? What's the next metric? Only states that have less than five natural lakes matter?

didn't she and her staff agreed to not count those state's . it's in writing.
so why is she trying to change the game that she agreed to in the begining of this election , this is not the person that I would want to run tis country , because she sounds like a sore loser .

Here we go again. Would Hillary be making these arguments if the roles were reversed? Obama did not make these rules he only followed them and now according to Hillary we should re write the entire democratic nomination process so that the out come favors hers??
I admire your tenacity and unlike may Obama supporters I think you should continue your race. You have made my candidate a better competitor. the Clinton brand is essential to the democratic party. However there comes a time when the race must come to an end and that is not the time when the rules should be re written.
Already many of your supporters are preparing to gift this election to John mcain in what they term as an act of solidarity among women. How giving the race to another man over a democratic man proves that point escapes me this is fact.
Remember we are all emotional right now but in 2 or three years we will be dealing with the end result of that anger. Senator please see this and act now. Bring the party together like you keep promising you will. because as you said words are just words.

Thank you Senator Clinton

I'm just so ASHAMED of the Democratic Party.

I am considering leaving the party…

…I mean, we might as well be Republicans….What kind of ridiculous system gives ,MORE delegates to the person with LESS votes (i.e. Nevada, etc.)

WOW, HOWARD DEAN MUST GO …

I just wanna know why she agreed to it in the first place, if she givesa "care" about it now?
She needs it that's all.

Never let it be said that Hillary '08 has let the truth get in the way of a good story.

You lost! Get over it!

This is really ridiculous! Hillary has got to stop and think about what she is saying and what she is doing to the party. Moving up the primary dates was ILLEGAL; thus the votes are "fruit of the poisonous tree." You cannot have it both ways. Because Hillary agreed that the votes were ILLEGAL (i.e. she signed the pledge and did not campaign, thereby indicating her agreement regarding same) she cannot, by way of default, interject a wayward approach intot he rules and attempt tp sabotage the Democratic process. Sorry Hill…this is unethical and beneath the Democratic party..

All Hillary wants at this point is to make sure she damages Obama as much as possible so he will lose and she can run in 2012. It's not that hard to figure out so WHERE ARE THE SUPER DELEGATES??? END THIS NONSENSE AND SUPPORT OBAMA!

"We believe that the popular vote is the truest expression of your will", she says NOW, but didn't give a flying fig about them 4 months ago when she admitted that their votes didn't matter, since she signed the agreement to punish the states for breaking party rules!

What about ALL of the voters in the "obedient", rule abiding 48 states?

Furthermore, should she be allowed to cheat & steal the Dem. nomination, is the MSM going to START asking her why she can't win the Black voters who put Bubba in the WH TWICE? Or, How can she "balance the budget" when she ran her own campaign so deep in the hole? Or, Is SHE going to repair the racial, wage-economic, & gender wedges that SHE created just so she could STEAL the nomination from the Candidate who legitimately bested her in popular votes