May 21, 2008
Posted: 11:02 AM ET

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(CNN) — The CNN Delegate Estimate has been updated with complete results from the Kentucky primary and partial results from the Oregon primary. There are also a few additional superdelegate updates.

In Kentucky, Clinton won 37 pledged delegates while Obama won 14. In Oregon, Obama has won at least 29 pledged delegates while Clinton won at least 19. There are 4 pledged delegates in Oregon still to be allocated. Overall, Clinton narrowed the pledged delegate gap with Obama as a result of Tuesday’s primaries. Clinton won at least 56 delegates from Kentucky and Oregon combined, compared to at least 43 for Obama, with 4 Oregon delegates still to be allocated.

In superdelegate news, Clinton picked up two new superdelegate endorsements (one from yesterday just before the primaries and another from today). Obama picked up a superdelegate endorsement today from Rep. Joe Courtney of Connecticut.

Obama leads Clinton by 185 delegates in overall delegates, 158 in pledged delegates, and 27 in superdelegates.

Based on these numbers, Obama is now 64 delegates short of clinching the Democratic nomination while Clinton is 249 delegates short of clinching the nomination. There are 86 pledged delegates up for grabs in the remaining three contests. There are 212 superdelegates remaining.

As a result of last night’s primaries, Obama now has a majority of the 3,253 total pledged delegates, though that has no direct bearing on winning the nomination.

Track the delegate race here.

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


Beatrice in Boston   May 21st, 2008 12:32 pm ET

Hey, CNN–
Obama picks up a super, and you give his name.
Clinton picks up 2 supers, you stay silent on who they are. Are you guys in Barack's corner?

D.Kimbro OHIO   May 21st, 2008 12:33 pm ET

This post from Clinton unfair attacks:

To JD. Your observation is wise, but don't look at that as a problem. It is like a family fight, you can say what you want to each other, the rules change when kid down the street says it. If you look at David McKinnon (McCains cheif media stategist) resigned, as opposed to pushing the standard republican spin. Senator Hagel has broken ranks w/McCain. I see his darkest days ahead. We have witnessed a street fight on the democratic side, however, we will have a singular focus in November. We have endured the worst of both of the democratic candidates, but the surface hasnt been scratched with McCain yet.

Darth Vadik, CA   May 21st, 2008 12:33 pm ET

I hope she loses all of her money in this campaign, she's 31 million in debt, 78 mil to go. Please stay in it Hillary, you'll end up without the nomination and broke.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Luis   May 21st, 2008 12:33 pm ET

Billary, you keep going because I want the world to see what the Obama "supporters" do when you and Monica's boyfriend find a way to steal the nomination. The hooting and hollering you saw in the Rev Wacko Wright videos will pale in comparison….

America, vote McCain or join the insane

Christoffel van Vuuren   May 21st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Here - Bank on this:

Neither Hillary nor Obama will be the Dem candidate. The establishment does not want Hillary as she has stepped on too many toes. Obama is too raw and inexperienced to cut it. Their point is to give these two unelectable candidates enough ammo to wear one another down and enough rope to hang themselves. They are also giving the Dem party a lot of media exposure with their antics.
At the convention there will be a deadlock and the real ticket will be Edwards-Richardson. Why do you think they both dropped out so early?

McCain: The only candidate who can bake the cake and not leave the cat out in the rain again.

Jeanie in Oregon has Hope and wants change   May 21st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Wow the repubs are on here big time today acting like FL dems so we think Obama doesn't have a chance in hell to win….

Don't fall for it Dems the repubs are scared this year, because they know all they have to offer is Grandpa McBush and they have to try everything they can to try to change our minds

But we are on to you guys, you are not going to win this one

Not this time, Not this moment,………

Koronin   May 21st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

And in other news: Barry Obama now has the majority of pledged delegates.

Whatcha gonna do Hillary? Encourage your supporters to vote for McCain, a guy who stands against eveyrthing Hillary stands for?

There's reality and there's stupidity…

Democrat/Hilalry supporter for McCain   May 21st, 2008 12:36 pm ET

Why is Oregon still counting??? Cheating, that's why. I'll bet it ends with huge Obama numbers - nevermind polls that showed the gap narrowing. I don't rule anything out with these Obamabots. That's what happens when you sell the hardcore party down the river for the fanatical left.

Hillary or McCain in 2008. Never Obama. Never ever.

marty   May 21st, 2008 12:36 pm ET

Write in Hillary Clinton in November. Do not stay home, do not vote for McCain. We can show the DNC what we think of their choice. This thing with Obama reminds me of a free concert I attended. We were all standing in a nice line, and suddenly 4/5 people broke rank and started a stampede. A lot of people were hurt in the process. The stampede of superdelegates before all the votes are in, is like what happened before the gates were open. It is going to hurt the DNC, and the nominee. Let the Obama-bots call us racist. They don't like Hillary , well we don't like Obamas' far left liberal ideas. That does not make us racist. Between the two states, Kentucky and Oregons total votes, Hillary picked up 150 thousand more popular votes.

andy k   May 21st, 2008 12:36 pm ET

The pledged delegates don't represent the will of the people when Hillary's pledged delegates in Iowa and Nevada are allowed to switch to Obama and Edwards pledged delegates are allowed to switch to Obama as well. Voters voted for these delegates to be pledged to a specific candidate but when these delegates switch, they no longer represent the will of the people. Therefore, the popular vote is a better representation of the will of the people, actual voters who voted for candidates.

Independent   May 21st, 2008 12:37 pm ET

Lets go people. We need barack Obama to be our next President. Your super delegates need to come out now to end this nightmare. Clinton is only hurting this party. If she had been a man, you would have forced her to give up this worthless BS of hers weeks ago! What are you all afraid of?
what kind of evil hold does she have over you?

Sue P / PA   May 21st, 2008 12:37 pm ET

Barack needs 62 delegates( he recieved 2 supers today) to shore up the nomination….Hillary needs 249 delegates. Fl and MI can not help her. The math is unsurmountable.

True Democrats Unite!!!!

shelly in IL   May 21st, 2008 12:37 pm ET

GOOD STUFF! AND WHY DO YOU (CNN) TAKE SO LONG TO POST MY COMMENTS. I AM NOT THAT CONTROVERSIAL, AT LEAST (I DONT THINK SO LOL) AND NOT AS VULGAR AS SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMENTS I HAVE SEEN SO FAR AND YOU HAVE POSTED.

CNN, YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK!

Brian Knoxville, TN   May 21st, 2008 12:37 pm ET

To every super delegate of the Democratic Party,

Please think long and hard about the simple choice you now have to make:

1) Choose to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Party’s nominee and watch her become the first woman to be elected President of the United States.

or

2) Choose to endorse Barack Obama and watch the first African American nominee of the Democratic Party lose in the general election.

Hillary Clinton will win against John McCain in the states that the Democratic Party needs to win in order to reach 270 electoral votes in the general election.

Obama won’t.

It’s that simple.

Hillary Clinton has been the best candidate in this long primary election, is by far more competent to run against the Republicans in the general election, and is infinitely more qualified to be President of the United States than is Barack Obama.

Endorsing Barack Obama, a relatively unknown candidate with a thin resume who has lost nearly every large state and swing state to Hillary Clinton in the primaries by large margins, is a huge gamble at best.

Please don’t gamble with our futures.

HILLARY CLINTON ’08

Danny, Democrat from AZ   May 21st, 2008 12:37 pm ET

Even if they split the remaining pledged and superdelegates, Clinton still cannot win by the rules. I applaud her for effort. But lets work on getting Obama and the party ready for November.

Democrats for '08

Wise White Guy   May 21st, 2008 12:38 pm ET

This woman is dispicable. She is so concerned with winning for herself she does not care about the damage she is doing by staying in. This is a very crucial time with the environmental issues, energy issues, Abortion rights gone if McSame wins, WARWARWAR, a mandatory draft and WARWARWAR, a lot of dead kids who will not be fighting by choice. And she thinks taking this to the convention and destroying the party is the best thing to do? People support this demon why?

So what?   May 21st, 2008 12:38 pm ET

Sooo? What difference does it make for her?

I guess the fact that he now has an unsurmountable lead in the only measure that one needs to win the nomination (PLEDGED DELEGATES) is not news enough.

Maxine   May 21st, 2008 12:38 pm ET

How does 249 and 64 delegates narrow the lead. I don't understand your headlines, when I first read that it looked like they were REALLY close. Unless I do a differend kind of math he is closer to finalizing this then she is. Unless we are doing Hillary math then I understand it.

James   May 21st, 2008 12:39 pm ET

I am an Obama supporter, enough of these hate words towards Hillary. We should unite now. However I think the real Obama supporters are very polite. I believe Rush L. supporters are those saying hateful things about Hillary. They are trying to deceive the bloggers. Here is the good news, we are not falling for it.

JJ-Orlando   May 21st, 2008 12:40 pm ET

Now we go into overtime and Hillary's got a clutch with plenty of Fuel. That is what makes a Champion and an American.

Shane   May 21st, 2008 12:40 pm ET

neither one will get full amount of delegates so the race is still on

Conservative -CA   May 21st, 2008 12:40 pm ET

Obama almost at the finish line.

I can't wait for McCain to get verbally owned in debates.

Real Change   May 21st, 2008 12:40 pm ET

LOL…THE TIDE IS TURNING!!!! LOL

CNN loves Hillary   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

63 more delegates needed!

Obama 08

Drip Drip   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

Oh, and some other news you need to report……

United Mine Workers of America Endorses Barack Obama for President (AP)

The United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) today endorsed Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for President of the United States. The endorsement came after a unanimous vote of the union’s National Council of the Coal Miners’ Political Action Committee (COMPAC) in favor of the endorsement.

HILLARY HAS THE POPULAR VOTE!!!!!!   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

HELLO!

NEED WE SAY MORE?

HILLARY CONTINUES TO WIN!

WHY IS THIS?

BECAUSE SHE IS ELECTABLE IN NOVEMBER OBAMA IS NOT!!!!!

CONGRATS HILLARY AND THANK YOU KENTUCKY!!!!!!

Venus   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

Way to go Bam! We are almost there!

The great news is that Hillary can't catch ya!

Thank you Oregon and yes - thanks also to those in Kentucky who voted for Obama!

Ha,ha,ha,ha,aaaaaaaaaahhhh! I just love the frontrunner who can lose by 35% and 41% and still win the race!!!

Diane, NY   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

Why does the media encourage her–"narrowing the gap"–a gap that is impossible to close? If the shoe was on the other foot she and Bill would be screaming at Obama to get out and to stop trying to divide the party. But I guess the Clintons really do believe they don't have to play by the same rules as everyone else.

A white Republican woman for Obama!

Carolyn   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

Must fuzzy because I can see how it's close

SO.....you'd rather kill our troups than vote for Obama??   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

All you Hilary supporters (DEMOCRATS) who say you're going to vote for McCain or stay home….. EXPLAIN THAT LOGIC TO OUR TROUPS AND THEIR FAMILIES! You'd rather vote against your party and allow our troups to continue to die than vote for the person who wants to bring them home simply because he's not your first preference. How SAD and SELFISH is that!!

Tubby The Tuba from Texas   May 21st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

It was pointless for Obama to waste his time campaigning in West Virginia and Kentucky with all the racists that live there. Although he is 1/2 white, all they see is his dark brown skin. He is a pure American red blooded individual running for the Presidency of the United States of America. It is a sad commentary that the older gereration still hang on to their prejudices of the past. The American people want CHANGE and WE WILL HAVE IT in spite of these poor myopic peoples.

Kiah   May 21st, 2008 12:42 pm ET

CNN I mean really! You can't be serious…Obama is 62 TOTAL Delegates away from securing the nomination. HRC is 249…you do that math and tell me if this is really news worthy that she picked up a meager 13 additional delegates. Which is the same as she picked up in PA & Ohio and neither made a difference.

Obama '08!

Blake, San Diego   May 21st, 2008 12:42 pm ET

When he gets that last 64, will Hillary still claim to be in it?

SLO Bear   May 21st, 2008 12:42 pm ET

The Clintons have really taken advantage of Obama's graciousness (not a sign of weakness, but indicative of his selfless care for the party), and they should be ashamed of themselves, if capable of it.

Full of Hope in Texas   May 21st, 2008 12:43 pm ET

I wish Clinton would bow out gracefully. She has a lot to offer the party. As a women who has trained my boss — I recognize the anger and disappointment in her and her supporter's voices. However, this is bigger than that. She fought a good fight, move the line forward for women and now should be given a place of honor in the party. I think a joint ticket would be a huge mistake. She would try to redefine the VP office (mcuh like she tired to do as first lady) and it would be bad for Obama's administration.

Obama will be a great president as evidenced by the people he chose to run his campaign. He will surround himself with smart people who will fill his knowledge and experience gaps while he provides a strong agenda for them to follow.

With him in the White House and Clinton leading the Senate change can happen. Please Hillary — we need you in the Senate to do battle. Don't weaken your position by continuing with this race.

Concerned Canadian   May 21st, 2008 12:43 pm ET

The " tainted " number of 2,026 cannot be reached by either Obama and Clinton.

Obama says he's " close " and his this so called "majority" so he figures he better get prepared for the general election. Well hold on just a second there sonny !! " Close " only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

There is no logic , rhyme or reason that the DNC and/or the superdelegates should intercede and ' select ' the Presidential candidate when neither Hillary and Obama have not enough delegates to contend for the number 2,026 !!

There is a fight to settle between the two candidates. You have to allow these two candidates to fight on their own to reach this
" tainted " number of 2,026 , or you can do it democratically and set the count at 2,210 by including Florida and Michigan as it always should have been.

Then and only then, the candidate that reaches the number on their own fight, nobody ' selecting ' , can rightfully and legitimately be called the Democratic Presidential nominee.

This primary rule thats creating this deadlock can be ripped up at anytime. The DNC knows it, the superdelegates knows it and so does everyone else. Let the best person win on their own !

Julie Wilson   May 21st, 2008 12:43 pm ET

I'm a senior citizen and a life long Democrat but there is no way I'll vote for Obama should he be the nominee. In my opinion, he and his wife are both emotionally damaged and untrustworthy. I mention Michelle Obama because she seems to call the shots in that marriage and if ever anyone were "bitter", it's she.

JR, Columbus, Ohio   May 21st, 2008 12:43 pm ET

Superdelegates should refrain from further action until the rules committee meets.

Alphonse Moneau   May 21st, 2008 12:43 pm ET

I support Obama-Clinton ticket.
But Mrs. Clinton does not need to go all the way to June 3rd to show that she is a strong candidate, to make “herself an appealing vice-presidential prospect — or setting herself up to run again in 2012, if Mr. Obama should lose, or perhaps 2016 — ,” all of that is already known. Deep down Mrs. Clinton’s heart, how could anyone doubt that she knows very well that at this point she cannot win the nomination? At this point of the race, if Mr. Obama’s candidacy suffers a self-inflicted or unexpected wound that knocks him off the course, it is obvious that Mrs. Clinton is the best viable alternate. Once again, Mrs. Clinton needs not to campaign till June 3rd for that purpose. The truth of the matter is that Mrs. Clinton has desperately and intentionally used racial “slogans” to win white voters in Indiana, West Virginia, and Kentucky; but now that these wins don’t even get her closer to the nomination, she is backing off from the “racial trick” to embark onto a new one: “sexism.” Mrs. Clinton, we know all you are about, YOU and YOUR EGO. Your tricks started with “a woman in the oval office,” then came the “crying” in New Hampshire, then the “Hispanics,” then the “blue-collar hard working whites,” then the “white Americans,” and now “sexism.” Mrs. Clinton, America -Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, Multi-racials, Natives, Whites, Rich and Poor, Gay and Straight- will not be deceived this time and will not buy into your disgusting tricks. If it was not all about YOU and YOUR EGO, you would have gracefully bowed out of this race longtime ago and help unify the party behind the nominee so that Democrats can take back the White House in November.

Ruby, Kansas   May 21st, 2008 12:44 pm ET

And your point is……………

Tom   May 21st, 2008 12:44 pm ET

HAHAHAHA, the race is over. Women, sorry but it just isn't happening. Don't get mad, it's just the way it is.

OBAMA 08

SO.....you'd rather for our troups suffer than vote for Obama??   May 21st, 2008 12:44 pm ET

All you Hilary supporters (DEMOCRATS) who say you're going to vote for McCain or stay home….. EXPLAIN THAT LOGIC TO OUR TROUPS AND THEIR FAMILIES! You'd rather vote against your party and allow our troups to continue to suffer than vote for the person who wants to bring them home simply because he's not your first preference. How SAD and SELFISH is that!!

shanta   May 21st, 2008 12:44 pm ET

64 delegates seems a whole lot closer than 249. We're getting closer Obama 08. You can't stop God's plan nor is there anything you can do when he has his hand in it. Democrates let's Unite and makes this world a better place for all of us.

HILLARY HAS THE POPULAR VOTE!!!!!!   May 21st, 2008 12:44 pm ET

HILLARY IS NOT TELLING HER SUPPORTERS TO VOTE FOR McCAIN !
AND YOU KNOW IT!

THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE OF THEIR HATE FOR OBAMA FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE DURING THIS CAMPAIGN,

HE IS A LIAR AND A RACIST AND ROBBED US OF OUR VOTES!

HE WILL NEVER MAKE IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE NOT IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT!!!!!!!

GO HILLARY!!!!

Brian Seattle   May 21st, 2008 12:44 pm ET

Koronin, You should do some reading. Hillary has Urged people not to vote for McCain, but to vote for Obama.

Again, hatefilled comments by Obama Supporters are dividing the party and pushing Clinton Supporters away from Voting in November. Get a Clue!

Turo   May 21st, 2008 12:45 pm ET

Why hasn't Hilary addresses the racism her supporters show consistently. Let's be honest states such as WVA, KY, and southern Ohio have racist folks who will not vote for Barack solely on the basis that he's black. She should make her voters understand that although he's black, he's not Rev. Wright, not Jesse Jackson, not Al Sharpton, nor Mr. Farrakhan. And that she admires this guys and ALL of her supporters should support him once he's the parties nominee.

norma - Wisconsin   May 21st, 2008 12:45 pm ET

I thought there were two states voting yesterday. I thought that Hillary won Kentucky by a huge margin. I thought Obama won Oregon by a much smaller margin. I turned on CNN for just a moment last night, and I wondered if Kentucky had even voted. All I could see on the tv was Obama this, Obama that, Obama, Obama. Hillary is spelled
"H I L L A R Y" in case you've forgotten. I understand some women in California or somewhere are taking out full page ads in USA Today in support of Hillary. Is this what we have to do in order to let the country know that she's still alive and well. Shame on you, shame on all of you, you've been unbelievably prejudiced throughout this race, we won't forget it.

Denial   May 21st, 2008 12:45 pm ET

"Clinton slightly narrows pledged delegate gap with Obama" .. "in the Kentucky & Oregon Primaries"…. CNN you didn't finish …….

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   May 21st, 2008 12:45 pm ET

It's nowhere near enough. It no longer matters.

If she won WV, PA and KY about two months ago, things would be different.

If she had planned to campaign after Super Tuesday, things would be different.

But, on the other hand, if a frog had a square a##h###, he'd ### bricks! :)

Matthew   May 21st, 2008 12:45 pm ET

If you use a multiplier of 1.362 for the possible FL and MI pledged delegates, and eat a pastrami sandwich with your left hand, and rotate your refridgerator 90 degrees clockwise, all while jumping up and down on only your left foot, THE MATH DOES WORK! Try it!

Obama '08

JM   May 21st, 2008 12:45 pm ET

This is all psycology, don't worry, she will win due to winning the popular vote.

How can you take the nomination away from the candidate that has more votes overall?

Obama is still young, he can run again in 8 years

Priscilla for Obama   May 21st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

No matter how Hillary slices it, IT'S OVER!!! Hillary SHOULD NOT ACCEPT VOTES FROM RACISTS. If they won't vote for Obama then she shouldn't accept their vote either. She is willing to win any way she can.

NO FOR HILLARY

YES FOR OBAMA - YES WE CAN!!!

marty   May 21st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

rite in Hillary Clinton in November. Do not stay home, do not vote for McCain. We can show the DNC what we think of their choice. This thing with Obama reminds me of a free concert I attended. We were all standing in a nice line, and suddenly 4/5 people broke rank and started a stampede. A lot of people were hurt in the process. The stampede of superdelegates before all the votes are in, is like what happened before the gates were open. It is going to hurt the DNC, and the nominee. Let the Obama-bots call us racist. They don't like Hillary , well we don't like Obamas' far left liberal ideas. That does not make us racist Obama wins Oregon, Hillary wins Kentucky, between the two she came away with 150 thousand more votes the him.LMAO

CW4Barak   May 21st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

'Based on these numbers, Obama is now 64 delegates short of clinching the Democratic nomination while Clinton is 249 delegates short of clinching the nomination. There are 86 pledged delegates up for grabs in the remaining three contests. There are 212 superdelegates remaining.' (Now this is the real story….Billary didn't dent a darn thing!!)

'As a result of last night’s primaries, Obama now has a majority of the 3,253 total pledged delegates, though that has no direct bearing on winning the nomination." (If this doesn't then what does….the DNC choses their candidate based on delegates, not who claims to have the pop. vote, cries the most while trying to say they are sooo strong and a fighter, or lives with pander-bears!!)

Obama '08….very inevitable!

WAKE UP AMERICA   May 21st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

Newsflash to democrats threatening to vote McCain…

- Say Goodbye Roe Vs. Wade
- Say Goodbye to civil rights
- Say Hello to more tax breaks for the wealthy
- Say Hello to more tax breaks for corporations
- Say Hello to a conservative MAJORITY in the supreme court
- Say Hello to 100 more years of war
- Say Hello to the draft being reinstated
- Say Hello to your children's children dying in a War for oil
- Say Hello to 4 more years of Bush Policies
- Say Hello to more of the same. the rich get richer, the poor die.
- Say Hello to the rest of the world continuing to watch our demise.

Michael   May 21st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

No more comebacks for the Clinton Camp.

No more Clintons in power.

Hillary gestapo go away!!!

Rich   May 21st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

Ohio add-on super for Clinton
Another superdelegate see the light

The campaign just announced the endorsement of Craig Bashein, who was elected by the Ohio Democratic Committee as one of the state's two add-on superdelegates on May 10.

“Hillary brings a wealth of proven experience in both domestic and foreign policy that provides a great sense of confidence and security in our future,” Bashein said in a statement released by the campaign. “She has the strength and determination to beat John McCain this Fall.”

Mark, Berwyn, PA   May 21st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

Hillary Clinton: Queen of Backwater Hillbillies. You go girl!!!

Proud American   May 21st, 2008 12:47 pm ET

Beat the dead horse to death… again

ACTION   May 21st, 2008 12:47 pm ET

With so huge money advantage and momentum, "the nominee" was defeated two times by more than 35% percent voters. My friend, should you consider what is behind this?

People just do not trust a house can build on sand without concret base.

THAT IS ALL TALK

Felton..Prof. of Obamonics   May 21st, 2008 12:47 pm ET

……OK..what's the point ?

kim from L.A.   May 21st, 2008 12:47 pm ET

KEEP GOING HILLARY…. the reason people are going to vote Mc Cain instead of Obama is really simple. Obama has not put in his time yet as a politician. you need more than two years as a senate to be president. I can see him in 4 or 8 years, but not now. If hillary does not get the win. Then we go to the next best experienced person and that would have to be Mc Cain. We have all ready had a non experienced person in there for 8 years ( BUSH), so to me it would be third term non experienced if Obama becomes President. IT does not matter Reb. or Dem. it matters who can run the country the best.

PT   May 21st, 2008 12:47 pm ET

Keywords in this article …At Least. Which means all votes are not counted and when they are all counted her narrow margin will be huge again :)? Why aggravate us with these silly statistics anymore.

Ray   May 21st, 2008 12:47 pm ET

Please, Please…make it stop

Truth   May 21st, 2008 12:48 pm ET

How many republicans voted for Hillary in Kentucky?
Some of the poeple voted for her said they will vote for McCain in November if she is the nominee!

Since Ohio & TX votes for Hillary were artifically inflated by republicans voting for Hillary to prolong the democratic race
Be smart democrats

Pat59   May 21st, 2008 12:48 pm ET

At least Hillary is named first in this article. I'm so sick of reporting that minimizes a 41% win in West Virginia and a 35% win in Kentucky. Gender bias at its best.

PJ   May 21st, 2008 12:48 pm ET

The majority is 2210 delegates. The last time I checked there were 50 states not 48. Cheating in FL should be only the Republicans privilege but democratic people respect each other. Obama supporters stop the insults to everybody that disagrees with you.

Michael, Farmington, NH   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

Andy K, we don't know what the popular vote is because the numbers from the caucuses haven't been released.

RIF   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

The real news is that he only has 64 to go and she has 249. I'm pretty sure he has 64 supers already read to roll out.

MM   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

And Obama is ahead in the legal popular vote. Please remember it was Clinton herself who said that it was allowable for pledge delegates to switch.
Enough bashing of either candidate. Time to get together people and defeat McCain.

SayNOtoHillary   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

andy k you are as stupid as one can get either way Obama is Ahead in Delegates, popular vote, states won, Superdelegates so stop you spin and hide with hillary.

TIMBER   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

Go Hillary! I am so ashamed of this whole proccess and how she was treated. Let us look at it objectively for God's sake.

Chi4Obama   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

Question: "Why can't he close the deal".

Answer: "In all reality the deal has been closed since circa Super Tuesday when he won states 27,28,29, and still counting. These remaining primaries, are playing out as expected (i.e. Huge wins for Hillary in W. Virginia, and Kentucky. Although significant wins as well for Obama in N. Carolina and Oregon). Under the current DNC rules, as agreed to by BOTH campaigns, he has already secured the majority of pledged delegates in this race. And his lead among superdelegates is widening each day.

Numbers Don't lie, Clinton's do. Game, set, match. Obama will be the Democratic nominee.

Joan   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

All the "talking heads" are SURE that Clingon supporters will "come home" for the General Election. I will NOT vote for Obama or McCain. I will simply stay home (and it'll be the first time in over 40 years that I won't vote). Why aren't the medias paying attention to the fact that since the various controversies came out, Obama has only won three primaries? People are voting FOR Clinton in huge numbers, even now when Obama is clearly ahead in delegates. And, even though the Obama blogs cry racism, that simply isn't borne out by the numbers. The fact is that he's too inexperienced and hasn't handled situations well since April. The DNC should pay attention to this….or the Dems will lose an election in November that should have been "in the bag"…

jp   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

Nice you named the super that endorsed Obama! What about Hillary's? This is why I watch Fox now and support Hillary

CT in CT   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

God help us!

HRC needs to quit the race and begin working for Obama with NO STRINGS ATTACHED if we are to believe she is not really trying to sabotage thi selection because she is not the nominee.

Too bad HRC is playing misogyny card so much. It seems she is attempting to harden her supporters to vote for McCain, setting back women's rights for decades as well as more blood of our young maimed and killed in Iraq.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

I would hope that the Clinton campaign would realize how unlikely it is that she would win. I am not saying that the remaining primaries shouldn't still vote; no, they should to complete things. I would just encourage Clinton to start to quiet down her campaign and after June 3rd to tell people to vote for Obama in the general election.

Zoey   May 21st, 2008 12:50 pm ET

What's up with CNN fooling their viewers to believe the race is actually close? It's highly unlike a deal for MI and FL will get done before the end of this month. Naturally, Clinton will receive some Superdelegates but I still don't see anything changes. I understand the Dems are trying to mend the party back together, but Hiliary isn't doing the Dem party any favors for staying in the race.

Vy, California   May 21st, 2008 12:50 pm ET

Any super delegates still going to Clinton at this time, is nuts and is as divisive as Clinton.

QU   May 21st, 2008 12:50 pm ET

andy k,

Even if we use your metric of the popular vote being the will of the people, and disregarding the current system that we have in place, Hillary still loses. I can't believe that people actually buy her garbage that she is leading the popular vote. It's easy to win something when the rules are tailored to your situation. Obama will be the nominee, once we all face that inevitable truth we can move on to a hopefully better place.

Delegates   May 21st, 2008 12:50 pm ET

The delegates that switched to Barack Obama are SUPERdelegates, they can do what they want.

Hillary agreed to the rules. Hillary helped to establish the rules for that matter.

And if you are going to count the popular vote count it ALL! Hillary's math claiming she is leading in the popular vote does not count Caucus states that counted their primary votes, Caucus states that did not count primary votes, does not count any voters from Michigan except those that voted for her, nor does it count the numerous voters in MI and FL that stayed home since THEIR states decided to move their primaries, resulting in their votes not counting.

Are rules meant to be broken when you don't win? I mean seriously, Hillary agreed to the rules when she thought she had this locked up, now she doesn't because she lost?!?!

Jeffrey   May 21st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

When it's this close, a unity ticket makes the most sense. Candidates need to get over themselves and do it for the good of the party. You would think Carter and Pelosi would know this. They're almost identical in all major issues - only difference lies in personality and their approaches. If we can't begin to unify the party in this most obvious of ways, then what hope is there of unifying the country?????

Jeff   May 21st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Game's over, Hilly. It's fine that you want to destroy your reputation. Why are you determined to destroy the democratic party's chances, as well? Selfish. Deplorable. Vile. It's hard to accept, I am certain, but you lost. Let go.

Jeff Radun   May 21st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Hillary will get the nomination and if she doesn't she will wrok for Obama as hard as she can, but OBAMA IS NOT ELECTABLE
Hillary's supporters will not vote for him
1) Mr Wright
2) His comments about small town americans
3) His flip flop on nafta and Iraq
4) His campaigns effert to make Bill and or Hillary look like they brought up the race card
5) His saying he would negotiate with despots without pre-conditions then changing his stance and saying he would negotiate with preperation. SAME THING pre-conditions and preperations are almost the same. He will negotiate with no pre-conditions or preperation or he won't

6) The most important reason is his supporters are full of hate.
All I ever hear on these blogs from Obama supporters is how Hillary is the B word or a witch, or a Liar, billery,
I would rather have McBush for a8 years than give Obama nation and Obama the whitehouse.
It would be the best if after Obama gets the nomination he gets creamed in November and Hillary runs again in 2012.
If Obama looses he will fall off the political map forever.

David   May 21st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Reallity check.
Hillary is still figuring out how to make a good judgement.

She is running against the time, she needs some coffe to wake up.

Go Hillary Go!!!!!   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Hillary… Keep going all the way to the convention. We support you and will never waiver from standing by you. You are the only one who can take on the Republicans and win. You have won every metric that matters in order to win the White House. Now we have to seat MI and FL so we don't lose in November. With Obama and his supporters willing to suppress that voters in those two states, he will get a huge backlash in a general election should he be the nominee. The general feeling in FL and MI is that they will vote McCain to teach Obama a lesson about hypocrisy because he doesn't want them to have a say in the primary, but he is willing to let them have a say in the general. FL and MI will remember that Obama didn't care enough about them in the primary because it wasn't convenient to count those two states. I can't believe that Obama is going to get away with not having those votes counted. This goes against everything our Founding Fathers believed in and died for when this country was born.

Zoey   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Please help me understand how Obama cheated? Please explain your logic. I'm sure it all makes sense to you just like Hiliary's math skills.

Jim Shimmer   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Please Obama haters. You people are so stupid. McSame is the worst of the worst. How can you even think of voting for him if Obama wins.

Common sense. Stop this hating.

Darryl   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

It sad to see that she had to go nagetive to get there…..

Why use Rich Carroll and his negative website..

HORRIBLE HOW LOW THE CLINTON CAN GO….

brett   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

You all need to stop whining about the popular vote. Everybody agreed to the rules beforehand and nobody was crying then. Remember that Bill Clinton went on to win the nomination using these same rules, so if Hillary can't do the same then it's her problem. If you don't like the rules, you change them before the primary season, not during.

paul oregon   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

hillary supporters seem to like the economy now . a chance at paying $ 12.00 gal for gas burying more of our troops. avote for mccaim will just make it get better for them.

No McBush   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Umm Marty, Obama's so called far left liberal ideas are lock stock and barrel in step with Hillary's.

You do know that they are both Democrats and both are liberal democrats not moderates don't you?

Can you give me anything that she is diametrically opposed to that Obama and the rest of the Democrats support?

No, because they both have the same agenda, a Democratic one.

Debra Austin, Texas   May 21st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Marty, go write in HRC and "show 'em". Then when you no longer have a 'woman's right to choose', you don't get better health care, the war continues, and jobs dry up even more, gas gets more expensive, I KNOW you'll feel better because, after all, you got to write in Hillary's name and you got to show that DNC, those evil people.

While you're having your little tantrum, try valium, then you won't have to share your plans with us, because we don't frankly give a da-n.

Christopher, Madison, WI   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Why are we still discussing Hillary? It's over lady…you played a mean spirited game of divide the democratic party and use false math, "I've won more votes than…(her math only makes sense when you remove the caucus states like Iowa…from the equation think about what she has said about Florida and Michigan / hypocrite). Obama is the nominee and if the false Hillary supporters decide not to or should I say come clean and admit they never intended to vote democrat in the first place (chaos voters) want to go with Grampa Goiter McBush then by all means defect and good bye and so long don't let then idiot door hit you on the way out of the realm of reality. As far as the chatter on the right side of the aisle they are grasping at every racist hateful straw Karl can dream up…it's almost a dull whisper now. Move on American evolve and progress. Obama 2008.

karry   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

every time i write a comment you never post it but i am going to still try you people cannot put yesterday superdelegate with today's superdelegate you want hillary to look good obama also pick up two superdelegate yesterday

Florida democrat   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Why do the superdelegates continue to 'flame the fire' by endorsing Clinton??? This is no way to unite the party behind the obvious nominee.

Thank about folks, do you really think it is fair for the democratic party not to give the nominee to the person with the most earned delegates, the most earned money, and the person who won the popular vote (I'm not using Clinton's fuzzy math, just the straight numbers). Do you really think the party would survive if they give the nominee to Clinton: Clinton is $31 in debt (check google news…thanks CNN for not reporting this!!!) and does NOT attract 75,000 people to rallies like Obama does.

…..the race is over for all practical purposes. These superdelegates coming out for Clinton might as well be voting for McCain.

Dee, MO   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Hillary supporters what the news isn't really sharing with you is Obama supporters will not vote for Hillary. LMAO So, welcome McCain.

arun   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

right Marty. 20 per cent of voters in Kentucky said that race was an issue. You can bet much more than 20 per cent were thinking it. In te far flung counties, Clinton got more than 90 per cent of the vote. Yes sure race was not an issue. Did you see my recent add for the Brooklyn Bridge ? In the current real estate market It is a steal I tell you.

Susan   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

All you Obama haters out there -

check out the candidates' policy positions - they are identical. They have voted the same 95% of the time in the Senate.

Your statement about hating Obama's policies is clearly a lie. You're racists, plain and simple.

Former Obama supporter   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Sorry, his negative campaign has caused me to switch sides. I'm encouraging everyone I know to vote Hillary or "Present" in the Fall.

Not 4 Clinton ANYMORE!   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

I'm from a small town in central Ohio &, up untill last night, I was a CLinton suppporter. After hearing Obama compliment & praise her - trying to repair the Democratic damage that I now see that SHE has caused - then hearing her insist that all of my neighbors' votes for Obama 2 months ago will NOT COUNT! I converted because she's trying to make a case that she - knowingly & WILLINGLY - acknowledged that the MI/FL votes would NOT be counted after moving up their primary, & knew that the 2 states delegations would be PUNISHED for it! NOW they matter to her! 48 states followed the rules, 2 didn't: now all of our votes will be overturned because of Clinton's selfish, erogant, "republican-esque" deviance!

WOW!!! Am I glad that my eyes are FINALLY opened! I can NOT support a "candidate" who shrugs off the needs & wishes of the people & panders to the biasness of the corrupt ones "in charge"!!! Nor can I support an "indiviual" who intentionally injects race & sexism into each speech she makes, attempting to make herself look as though she's being "picked on"! Give me a break!!! As a middle-aged woman, I have NEVER behaved like a little girl to get my way!!!

Hillary Clinton - along with John McCain - is setting the women's movement BACK 100 years! REAL women should stand up & DEMAND Hillary Clinton repair HER OWN damage & immediately STOP the immature, UNPROFESSIONAL, & destructive behavior before she hands the presidency back to the republicans in November!!!

I'm for Obama in 2008 - If Hillary Clinton is NOT rewarded with, and PERMITTED to, STEAL this nomination away from him!!!

S.   May 21st, 2008 12:53 pm ET

So by using andy k's measure - the argument that Clinton makes [that there's no such thing as a "pledged" delegate] is mute correct? Because she's suggested many times that Obama's pledged delegates can also defect to her. So if they, by some strange happenstance, decide to do that then will it not matter - will their defection not count and still not be the will of the people andy k?

It kills me how the metrics always seem to change in the Clinton camp. If it doesn't benefit Clinton then it's either not fair or "doesn't matter".

Just wow

carl   May 21st, 2008 12:54 pm ET

It is finished, so long old gal.

Ben (New York)   May 21st, 2008 12:54 pm ET

Idiot Koronin

Try and look at the REAL facts and not be a slave to the ramblings of CNN news.

Hillary is far more experienced, (evryone that has a brain knows this). Obama although a good talker has none. He also is not trustworthy nor electable. At least his old minister freind stands by who he is, ulike Obama having been in his church for 15 years, had his kids baptized by him and then claims he doesn't know who the guy really is. Sounds like he goes to his Church when its convenient for his campaign.

Remember this If Florida and Michigan don't get counted and if he is the nominee he will always know in the back of his mind that he didn't beat her fair and square. If he doesn't beg her to be on his ticket its another 4 years of republican bull….because MCcain will desroy him.

Why would so many Democrats say that if he is the nominee they will abstain rather then put the worng man in office.

Try to see through the hype….

Christopher, Madison, WI   May 21st, 2008 12:54 pm ET

Great math Joan…please I beg you stay home. Obama who has won the popular vote and is only 66 delegates away from the nomination doesn't need your mis-directed vote!

Jenny, Rio Vista, CA   May 21st, 2008 12:54 pm ET

To andy k: Do you think the popular vote is accurate if people are told that they can vote if they want to but their vote won't count and only one name is on the ballot. After everyone has voted, all the votes for that one person on the ballot is counted and the rest of the votes are thrown away.

Doesn't really make sense does it? Also it is pretty undemocratic don't you think?

pa voter   May 21st, 2008 12:54 pm ET

has any one bothered to report that many peoples opinions of Obama have changed since his and his wifes comments have come out…Or since the Wright Ayers thing has come out? That maybe Americans (proud ones) might not trust him anymore, and I feel for good reason. When your own Country does not trust you, how can you expect to become President of the United States. In time we will have our say and will have either another President Clinton, or a President McCain. And for you Koronin, They all want change, and I think if you realy listen to them, they all want basicaly the same thing. It is just a matter of who is willing to work for it, and I don't think Obama has ever had to work for anything in his life. He might have to give a few more speeches, saying the same thing he always does, and His wife can say "now I am real proud of my country", but People are starting to wake up and notice what a fake he is.

Check 2 Check   May 21st, 2008 12:54 pm ET

Hillary Supporters!!

It is a testiment to your intelligence to vote against your own best interests by voting non-democratic. how many soldiers must die for you to get past your selfish spite. do you even care about your children and family's future? I see why you are Hillary supporters….just as she has been selfish to the democratic party by prolonging a lost cause in an attempt to trigger anarchy by overturning the rules she agreed to and the votes of many.

SayNOtoHillary   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

Marty you are an idiot also she only pick 250K poplar vote from the Old, women and unedcated and racist state Kentucky and Obama Picked 100K from the educated and young people who can reason and think.

Chi4Obama   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

Note to "andy k""

Reality check. Pledged delegates are what help decide each party's nominee (not the popular vote). These are the rules that have been established by the DNC. If only the popular vote mattered in elections, then Bush would never have won in '00.

mp   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

More people want Hillary to be president in this country then they do Obama. Face the facts!!!!!!!!

ACH   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

It's sad that people will not vite just beacuse Obama is a Black man.

anon   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

That's like saying someone threw a pebble into the Red Sea. Jeez.

abdul   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

It will be better for them to stop the race here to be able to campain against the McCain

Dan , TX   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

McCain will destroy our economy. You think it's bad now. Just wait.

No McBush   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

Democrat/Hilalry supporter for McCain - ""Hillary or McCain in 2008. Never Obama. Never ever."

Liar liar pants on fire – If you’re going to pretend to be a Democrat, at least give Hillary the respect to spell her name right.

kate1149   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

If the Democrats lose this race to John McCain it will be Hillary Clinton's fault. Her insistance that she stay in until the end even though it is apparant she cannot get enough delegates without desroying Obama or changing the rules, has hurt his chances to get elected in the fall. But of course Clinton has no conscience, honesty or integrity so what does it matter to her - if she cannot be the Democratic nominee then she and her supporters are perfectly willing to make sure that Obama cannot win either because they are bitter, angry sore losers.

Bob from Pensylvannia   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

Hillary is a toast now. If she is a true democrat, then she must openly refuse the vote of her racist supporters.

Simply put: If you won't vote for Barack in november because of his race, then don't vote for me in this primary.

If she can't openly say this to her racist supporters so that the whole of America will hear that, then she equally shares their sentiment.

Lisa   May 21st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

Obama '08

SN in MN   May 21st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

People need to realize that this whole debacle is war against the Clintons launched by Kennedy the Drunken One. He is largely responsible for all this intra-party bloodshed and the ensuing loss in November.

delegates   May 21st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

Remember if your talking about delegates changing over to Obama, It was hillary that told them it was ok to do so. She said in a speech directed at Obama's delegates that they are allowed to come over to her side whenever they wanted to. She said not only super delegates could do this but also the pledged delegates as well. It may have backfired on her. and yes Obama does carry more states, pledged delegates, super delegates, and the popular vote. He will be the nominee.

Hillary wins the Electoral College   May 21st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

The REAL math:
1) delegates count for ONE vote at the convention: the FIRST vote. After that, they can vote for whomever they want.
2) Count the electoral college votes allocated to each state. Hillary topples Obama by a landslide according to all the primary/caucus results. THIS is what really counts come Election Day.

Hillary should run as an independent. That will teach everyone a lesson in REAL math!!

Jagdish , Vancouver,Canada   May 21st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

just a drop in the bucket !!

Delores   May 21st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

Re: Shanta,

You are sooooooooooooo right! If it's HIS plan…NOTHING nor anyone CAN Stop the plan!!!!

…"If its up to THEE…so shall it BE!

Dan   May 21st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

It's been over for so long, how do you know when its really over.

It's kind of funny when the Clinton supporters hear something like- he has locked up a majority of the delegates, and respond with "so what". Of course, anyone following this realized this was locked up after the Texas and Ohio primaries where she failed to cut into his sizable lead… Now it is bordering on surreal, and the undecided supers really deserve all the blame at this point, they are destroying the party by keeping alive these "hypotheticals"…

He need 68 delegates, she needs over 249… It's over!

COUNT EVERY VOTE   May 21st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

count every vote…every person who voted in this election should be counted….every primary and caucus…I wonder who will will. If we are going to count every vote…then lets count every vote that participated.

If you don't vote for a democrat this fall…then vote for more people to die and higher gas prices….you hillary supporters are emotional and will take this country down by voting for Mccain.

Silly and emotional…lets count every vote like Hillary says…EVERY VOTE!!!!!

@americans   May 21st, 2008 12:57 pm ET

Keep reaching CNN; keep let the fat lady croak!

CNN, destroy the democratic party for your miserly ratings!

Anne   May 21st, 2008 12:57 pm ET

marty is this the only story you know and can tell.

Dal CA   May 21st, 2008 12:57 pm ET

Joan the race card is being played out.

REZ   May 21st, 2008 12:57 pm ET

Stay home sore losers, we don't need you or your lying toxic billary.

Rant3000   May 21st, 2008 12:57 pm ET

Wow she won all the racist votes! Something she and her supporters should be so proud of. Some quality collation Hillary! You must be proud.

petra   May 21st, 2008 12:58 pm ET

let her keep narrowing the margin,, even after Obama is nominated and win the election,and start ruling,, she will still continue narrowing the margin,,,this is far from a Royal coronation sorry,, unless we all want to start reading our bible from the back page, only,

Frustrated Fem   May 21st, 2008 12:58 pm ET

Hillary could never carry West Virginia or Kentucky in a general election…Please, i mean 1 out of 5 of her votes were due to the fact that he's black and she's not… That's the America we're proud of!?! Pathetic!

It's funny that educated people vote for Obama where uneducated people don't vote for Hillary but rather against Obama.
And stop with the sexist card. He is no Sexist. Actually the NY Times (which endorsed Hillary) said he was more of a feminist than Hillary. Wake UP!!!

President Obama will with or without the appalachian vote win the general election, easily!

pa voter   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

Joan, If Clinton voters simply don't vote, we will hand this to Obama…We have to vote for McCain. And cnn, why do you ask people to "leave Your comment" but never put them up for people to see?

Nah!   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

Write ins never work, gang, on a national scale. Your vote won't go anywhere. Up to you, but if you want to stop the madness, vote Democratic, no matter who is the nominee. I'm an Obama supporter, but if he somehow loses the primary (not very likely) I will vote Clinton.
I've had enough of the Republican reign. It's time for a change, no matter which Democrat is running…..

kingsley   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

DEMOCRAT/HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR MCAIN

What the hell are you talking about? you are making no sense. and whats your motive for voying/ if you are a hillary supporter but will vote for Mcsame. are you voting for color or policy? cease the ignorance

proud army and navy mom   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

hillary needs 268 delegates out of the 298 delegates that are left. (highly unlikely barring a diaster but keep wishing old girl)

she "supposedly" raised 21 million in April (how much of it was her own money?) she has 37 million dollar debt.

if the people in Kentucky knew this before they voted for her, what does this say about them? think about it

georgia   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

CNN Let's hear more about Hillary's campaign donations from Iran supporters & the votes bought with "street money" in Texas & Pa. She is just too subversive !!. Hopefully NY will get rid of her in the next Senate election. The majority of USA citizens want real change in politics ,especially the WhiteHouse.

Money issues   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

Hillary supporters say that she is being out spent in each state…but if she is only spending $200k it is really easy for anyone to outspend you…I can even out spend her 2 to 1.

Uncle Sam   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

On the one hand we have a naive presidential hopeful who promises change, while on the other we have an experienced heroic statesman with a proven record of change. Am I missing something?

Americans for McCain '08

delegates   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

If you go vote for McSame as bush you are a republican, stop pretending to be a democrat.

Delores   May 21st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

Norma, get a grip! Oregon's voting took place via snail mail. Thus, there returns were not to come in UNTIL 11:00 P.M.

Susan fron Kona HI   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

The game is over. What is Hillary doing? The longer she holds on the worse it becomes for Barak. We will see how this election plays out. I would think the super delegates are smart enough to see the writing on the wall. Hillary doesn't know what else to do. She is a professional poiltian. We are over the Clinton's and there tricky ways.

PA for Obama   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

Joan, I strongly disagree with you. Obama has handled the controversies including Rev. Wright skillfully, and he has managed his campaign even better. With an economy in the tank, I don't trust a candidate whose campaign is $31 million in debt. And I don't think the people of Appalachia are representative of an entire country. I'm not sure, given the profiles that have emerged of Hillary's supporters in exit polling, that I'd brag about having that particular vote.

Obama/Hagel 08

Linda   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

andy k

It is Hillary that has been saying that the pledged delegates CAN change their votes and minds, hoping it would be in her favor. Oops! Careful what you wish for.

fred   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

Democrat/Hilalry supporter for McCain May 21st, 2008 12:36 pm ET

Why is Oregon still counting??? Cheating, that's why. I'll bet it ends with huge Obama numbers - nevermind polls that showed the gap narrowing. I don't rule anything out with these Obamabots. That's what happens when you sell the hardcore party down the river for the fanatical left.

Hillary or McCain in 2008. Never Obama. Never ever.
————————————————-

I thought something funny last night when that large county (people wise) stayed at 38% forever????

Another funny thing this morning on CNN where you look at the county by county, they had everyone of them checked for Obama in Oregon???

Biased…I guess they are!!

Democrat, NC   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

How can one vote for McCain if Hillary is not the democratic nominee? Can't you see that McCain is willing to wage a war with Iran? This would be the end of America as we know it; involved in three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran), close to bankruptcy, and isolated in the world. Obama is in fact the last hope for this country.

COUNT EVERY VOTEQ   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

COUNT EVERY VOTE EVEN THE CAUCUS STATES>>>>THEN LETS MOVE ON THE NOVEMBER

LLOYD from New York   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

Norma,

Quit your whining - no one is prejudicied, we're realists. And the REALITY is that Hillary is not going to win.

Hillary and the majority of her supporters are incredible sore losers and racists. 60% of the people in Kentucky said they voted for her because they didnt like the fact that BO was black!!!??? So please, tell me again how all BO supporters are SEXIST, but HRC supporters aren't racist. You people are an absolute joke - its no wonder the "core" of the HRC base are uneducated Appalachian white trash. All you people need to read a book or get a life - its obvious that your all HRC radicals who sit home all day and whine and complain that your candidate is winning and concoct ways to attack BO for his clear victory - all while addressing ways to put McCain in office.

LADELL   May 21st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

Somebody please explain to her it's over and if her supporters vote for mccain then they prove what every real american already know this is a divided country thanks to the bush administration.

Shirley-Ohio   May 21st, 2008 1:01 pm ET

KEYWORD: Slightly, but no cigar.

Boston for OBAMA   May 21st, 2008 1:01 pm ET

Why can't HRC's supporters put their money where their mouth is and pay off her vendors at least. I don't believe the voters should pay HRC back her own money she loaned her campaign.

stacy   May 21st, 2008 1:01 pm ET

I agree totally with Joan, DNC and superdelegates take heed.

Ostriches burying our heads in the sand   May 21st, 2008 1:01 pm ET

Yay! Barack just needs 64 more delegates to reach the magic number! We are almost there….

Hillary has run a good fight…..but Barack's got the numbers..after June 3rd the Dem party needs to unite to beat McBush in Nov….

Jenny, Rio Vista, CA   May 21st, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Joan — If you want to stay home in November than you can. No-one is going to force you to go out and vote. And if by some reason of total insanity by the American people McCain becomes president and he nominates 3 new supreme judges and Roe vs Wade is overtuned, he bombs Iran, healthcare is no longer provided by employers, gas prices rise to over $7.00, you can sit back and give yourself a big pat on the back.

But remember this Joan — It will be the generations of the future that will suffer. Maybe a relative of yours will die in Iraq or Iran. Maybe a neighbors soon will come home from the war and commit suicide, maybe you will lose your home as well. But hey.. you didn't vote so it wasn't your fault was it?

bill from pa   May 21st, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Joan,

Like clinton handled the 'sniper fire' lie or the 'I created peace in Ireland' lie. If the clinton supporters want to have a hissy fit and vote McCain, have at it but don't complain when your children or grandchildren continue to die in a war that should never have happened. Grow up already. She lost because of her arrogance and propensity to blatantly lie.

Rom   May 21st, 2008 1:02 pm ET

Below is what I just read from the fox news web site (The conservative channel), it's about an online survey

When should Barack Obama be declared the presumptive Democratic nominee?

He will not be the nominee (30%)
When he has the majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates (21%)
At the Democratic convention in August (21%)
When he has the majority of pledged delegates (16%)
When he has the majority of pledged delegates, superdelegates and popular votes (12%)

Total Voters: 7,389

The bottom line is even he's now 64 delegates short of clinching the Democratic nomination there are some Republican/conservatives who think he's not going to be the nominee
WHAT'S YOUR EXPLANATION ?
I think they're afraid of something

SN in MN   May 21st, 2008 1:03 pm ET

Caucuses are bogus. They were designed to allow party insiders to control the process. Axlerod had a stroke of genius by mobilizing naïve, but fad-conscious college kids to flood them and skew the results. Osama the Great will be crushed in the General. Fools!

Austin - Davenport, IA   May 21st, 2008 1:03 pm ET

HONESTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!

!!!!!

!!!!!

Hypocrisy at its best. Clinton with more votes, yet she doesn't win?

I love it. The argument Democrats had in 2000 is now their own undoing.

Since pledged delegates cannot come to a decision, it's only natural, to me, that the super delegates choose the one with the popular vote.

Obama is the delegate's choice.

Hillary is the people's choice.

Jeanie in Oregon has Hope and wants change   May 21st, 2008 1:03 pm ET

Oregon is still counting because we have until 8pm on election day to drop off our ballots at several drop box locations,
all counties have to go out and pick up those ballots and take them to their headquarters..
It takes time
we don't punch a machine like most states, we fill ours out like you would a SAT test, you know fill in the circles?
then we seal our envelopes and drop them off, so be patient we'll be done soon…

Susan for Hillary   May 21st, 2008 1:03 pm ET

Go Hillary.

Obama supporters……….Hillary will make a good president. She is a very strong person who cares about our country.

Hillary 08

Beverly, NYC   May 21st, 2008 1:03 pm ET

Dear Democrat/Hillary supporter for McCain: ( I corrected your spelling)

Not everything is conspiracy! Oregon's polls closed at 11pm last night. Since you are willing to throw your vote away, I hope your life is perfect because you will be in for more of the same. I guess you don't mind that though as long as the President is the right shade of white. I guessHillary was right when she said her core voters are white, hard working and uneducated. Good luck with that.

Marty: I like your free concert analogy, sounds like Hillary to me, felling entitled to be in front. And even with the votes gained last night she is still behind inthe popular vote, even if you count FL.

November can't come soon enough   May 21st, 2008 1:04 pm ET

Well, if all of you decide to stay home on Election day, maybe I will be able to get in and out of the voting booth. Thank you for staying home! And one more thing, here's our opportunity to get a Republican out of the White House, but instead of doing this, we decide not to vote for a Democratic. What a selfish, disdain world (U.S.A) we live in! One more thing, thank you all for electing George Bush to 8 years of Presidency! We all know who did this!

Eric in Lincolnton, NC   May 21st, 2008 1:04 pm ET

I agree with you Joan. The DNC need to pay attention to Hillarys support now. I think the problem is their afraid of racist issues and they are afraid to back Hillary even though she has the MOST popular vote. Obama won seven caucus states, Thats why he won more states. People are afraid to stand up and they let theirselves be talk into something with a speech. STUPID!!!

jfs Memhis, Tn   May 21st, 2008 1:04 pm ET

Congrat's Hillary…….lord knows you've done everything in the world to get them. Hope that they are not racists. We do not want that message being sent out to the country or world .

Gayle   May 21st, 2008 1:04 pm ET

I will write in Hillary Clinton for the presidential election. I am tired of the media spin and the sexist attitudes out there. Hillary is winning this election despite the constant propoganda of the media and the huge outlay of cash by Obama.

Garth   May 21st, 2008 1:04 pm ET

I now believe that every "I'd rather vote McCain, if Hillary doesn't get it" is really just a Republican posting.

They probably crossed over to vote for Hillary and will vote for McCain in the Fall anyway.

In the end, Clinton's Supporters, those who understand what Senator Clinton stands for, will support Senator Obama. The thought of four years of another Bush scares me.

Paul   May 21st, 2008 1:04 pm ET

Judge a man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin……….NObama has no character and the only reason he's received any votes at all is because he is a black man. The black people are coming out of the wood work to give him 5 or 10 dollars to put him in office thinking their lot in life will be better. The only CHANGE they are going to get is for the worse.

GO HILLARY!!!!!! '08!!!!!!!!

Beatriz Perez-Sanchez   May 21st, 2008 1:04 pm ET

If Senator Obama is elected President with Hillary as V.P., he should hire official food tasters.

johnny d   May 21st, 2008 1:05 pm ET

Who is more racist than balack Americans 90/10 for Obama. they are looking for welfare to return. That is what cost our gas price to be so high. Lazy people in America.

Proud1of 26% in WV   May 21st, 2008 1:05 pm ET

Let's see a monster win in Ky and she finished the night with a net gain of 13 delegates,she is behind by 185 ,so that is just 14 monster wins behind.Wait there are only 3 contests left.I'm sure that she will try to figure out how and where to have all these extra contests.Maybe borrow some from future elections after all she borrows money from herself.This is going to get interesting on June 3.

Accountant Guy   May 21st, 2008 1:05 pm ET

Only a little way to go Barack, keep up the good work!

Obama '08

Sue   May 21st, 2008 1:05 pm ET

CNN, your Hilary bais is still showing…why not add the headline "OBAMA needs only 62 delegates to win the nomination" …

You can keep beating the dead horse, but no mojo …!!!

bp   May 21st, 2008 1:05 pm ET

What is really funny is that Hillary still believes that she has a chance. She is in debt, some of the supporters of her strong bas are now flocking to Obama. Sure Hillary can stay in the race and she will be even more financially strapped and thoroughly embarrased at the end. All of the individuals that support Hillary and say that they will vote for McCain when Obama is the nominee are not Democrats. Ok. I understand that she is a woman and women everywhere beleive that she can win an shouldn't give up. The fact is, she has lost and in order to save face, she is trying to stay in the race. All Hillary is making herself look bad. You can lie to people, but you can't lie to yourself. Hillary give it up!

Florida democrat   May 21st, 2008 1:06 pm ET

Joan and other "Clinton or McCain" folks

You are all idiots and are not even listening to the words of your preferred candidate….Clinton has repeatedly stated her supporters should absolutely come out strong for Obama in November.

Are you people that stupid?? Wow, look what this education system has done to this country. Stupid people voting against the person that is most likely going to make their lives better.

well, may you continue to suffer!!

RRO   May 21st, 2008 1:06 pm ET

If Hilary won the nomination, Obama's supporters are so liberal they would either vote for her or not vote, where Obama's problem comes in is that Hilary's supporters are moderates who will either not vote (which is not as big a problem) but the really damaging part is that they can vote for McCain.

There is only one answer Obama/Clinton 08.

Brawny