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Creative Woody – you need to get informed dude!!!!!!!! Obama and his attorneys are the ones who would not agree to revotes in Michigan or Florida and had threatened to sue the DNC if they seated and counted the Florida and Michigan votes.

Obama supporters who are touted as being so well educated simply just show that the guy is full of hot air – hot air because some of his supporters are just plain old stupid, and hot air because he has no clue as to HOW to get any of the bla bla that he talks about done.

Get real!!!!!!!! He is giving nothing up! Clinton will prevail with the popular vote at the convention – who wants another error like the one made in 2000 putting someone in the White House with no expereience and via the Supreme Court. Gore had the popular vote and Bush filed suit. I will bet that the first words out of Obama's mouth would be that he would take it to the Supreme Court if Clinton has the popular vote and the DNC realizes she is the only one who can beat McCain.

Obama and his people need to understand, the voters rights are first and primary and democratic to count them all. Clinton started right after the New Hampshire primary to fight for the Florida and Michigan votes to count. She had to wait because it set the table for the argument to count the votes in Florida and Michigan since New Hampshire had also moved it's primary up with no penalty. You folks need to understand that this if for the White House and not some person who can only flip-flop from what is said in a debate…to the real world. Guess he needs some further lessons from Clinton!!!!

A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain, a vote for CLinton is a vote for a Democratic White House.

Obama would be willing to become a snake handler if he could capture the Presidency. I just don't trust him.

Obama was not even on the ballot in Michigan, DUH, and I keep hearing them talk about revoting when Florida doe NOT permit private companies to get access to the voter rolls, it's illegal. The Clintons paint a picture that they tried to pay for a revote in Florida, that is just silly when they know that would have been illegal. Anyway, 50 50.

Clinch the nomination first and then agree to seat the delegates. Those were mock elections anyway.

Isnt this nice Hilary clintons now campaign adviser Terry McAuliffe was head of the DNC and was one of the people who demanded that if Michigan and Florida moved their Primaries ahead of Iowa they would be penalized and he would make sure that they lose their delegates. This was The Head the guy who made up the rules and set the penalty. This thing was set up before Howard Dean took office. These rules was also the same for the Republicans ( who lost half of their delegates) All parties signed and agreed Now…… What better way to know how to break the rules have the guy on your side who set the rules. Are you telling me that Hillary didn't know she could use this later if her original plan didnt work out ??? Rules are set for a reason For the Clintons to breal them

Romney graciously conceded to McCain for the sake of the party even though he still had momentum. I wish we could muster up some of that teamwork in the Democratic Party and go on to win in November.

Well here you have it folks… a greceful gesture from a gentle man.
That's one more reason he should be president and how this kind of attitude can prevent future Iraq's

The Obama camp blocked the re-vote in FL and MI when they knew that would change the dynamics of the election… Obama would have then lost IN by wider margins and probably crawled to the finish line in NC.

Now his camp is willing to cut a deal… why, because they afraid that if they don't the tide might turn against them… Obama camp has been the one that has been manipulating the public:

(1) A false message of change with out any substance
(2) Playing the race card ever so subtly and accusing the Clintons of playing the race card
(3) Running away from a fight when they know they can't win, FL, MI, KY, WV are examples

What is he going to do in the general election…

Republicans will take the fight to them and slaughter him… the only way they can win is by tearing Obama down and the Obama team has demonstrated over and over again that they can't win a fight.

Well here you have it folks… a greceful gesture from a gentle man.
That's one more reason he should be president and how this kind of attitude can prevent futre Iraq's

HEY. PAY ATTENTION!

Shane and others all upset and thinking this changes or could change anything, it isn't going to happen. If you give Hillary all the votes she earned in these two states, which is even directly matched up with the votes (check the wiki page on this and the related numbers), she STILL doesn't have enough delegates. You are being tricked by propaganda. I'm sorry, but you are.

I even did the math without giving Obama ANY of the Michigan votes. Guess what? Still is ahead.

Now it's over people, it really is. She can't win. And whoever would have won from the start, what ultimately matters is 4 or 8 years of democratic ideas in Washington instead of more Bush/McCain policy. Vote Democratic. Vote for Progress. Vote for what's right. Are we a country of sore losers, or a country for the future.

No No and more No! We the Senator Clinton supporters hereby demand you give her the exact amount it will take to claim the nomination. Oh and by the way we want your fundraising ability, and we want to stick bolts in your neck Axelrod so you will work for us without dissention. Also, we want every kind of unfair advantage (i.e. Race baiting voters, telling bold faced lies and policy flipping) that the American people can stomach. We want this now or else we will vote for tattoo from Fantasy Island.

The plane boss! Hitlary 08

Michigan Will Have A Re -Vote In August ……. Florida Votes Will Count As Certified .. … If This Upsets You , Go Live In Aother County !!! . All 50 States Have The Right To Vote , And All Votes Will Be Counted , The Will Of " ALL "The People Will Be Heard !!!! . This Is Bigger Than Any Canidate . To Many Have Died To defend This Right !!!!

50 50, those states cannot impact the election, otherwise the states would disregard the rules every election cycle. Clinton will not win no matter what the delegation.

He's not doing this for nobody but himself. Now that he thinks he may be the winner, he wants the support of FL and MI. Why now Obama? Why have you constantly rejected any compromise?

My vote will not vote for McCain, but my vote will certainly not go for Obama

Shane get stuffed.

This campagne is bigger than Barrack and Hillary. It's also Obama supporters verses Clinton supporters. Obama supporters are small
minded eggotistical raciosts. THAT's RIGHT I SAID RACIST. They are against the whites, the woman, and anyone else who they feel might
keep thier canidate out of the white house. They think just because Barrack is black that he will automatically see things from thier point of view. They have a big shock coming if he becomes President. He
will no longer need you then you'll be crying foul. As for his white supporters, They are voting for him because they don't want to be called racists. All his supporters are just his stepping stones. so bend over get on your hands and knees, as he steps on your backs to get where he's going. And when he's in the white house and he looks at you and says I don't know you. remember I TOLD YOU SO.

Its time for the party elders to take Bill and Hill to the woodshed and tell them to do what is best for the party. The constant complaining about being accused of using the race card and blatant sexism are becoming old and sound like playground chatter. It is time to see the writing on the wall and clear the way for the next president of the United States . . . Obama 08!!

OBAMA DIDN'T TAKE THE VOTES OF FL & MI AWAY.. THE DNC DID AND CLINTON AND OBAMA AND EDWARDS AND ALL THE CANDIDATES SIGNED OFF ON IT!

Why are people so ignorant and why isn't the "news" doing a better job of clearing up this confusion?

It is really a sad state of affairs when people actually are gullible enough to believe Hillary's rhetoric, just because. She says she has the most popular vote, ah! Her counting is off, I just counted all the votes. Not counting Michigan, because Obama wasn't on the ticket, Obama has 16,508,754 to Hillary's 16,313,203 Isn't that ahead. Now if we add in Hillary's numbers in Michigan (which was totally unfair because Obama nor Edwards was on the ticket), she has a grand total of 16,641,354, yes this shows she is ahead but how legite is this. Now if you add in the uncommitted numbers from Michigan, largely those that would probably have gone to either Edwards or Obama that number brings it up to 16,746,516. I would say that is a majority, even if that number didn't entirely go all to Obama (Michigan being the reason) they were still votes against Hillary. So does this not show he has the lead in the popular vote, delegates, and supers. Hillary all you are doing is frustrating me, especially when you still believe you have a right to win. What is your reasoning now? That you will get the lower-educated white vote and Obama won't so he'll loose the White house. Yes there is racism in America, but people don't be so gullible, I strongly feel, that there are less racists than that, and if it is a decision between Obama & McBush, Obama will win.

You can call Hillary many names, however unlike most people that comment to these types of articles she is NOT A QUITTER!!

Shelly its only Republicans blogging hate in regards to Obama, im almost certain that Hillary supporters will back the Dem Nominee who is most likely Obama in the fall.

This is the 21st century with 18th century mindset. Really sad that some people cannot have an open mind regarding a person and what their true intentions are. I can see why they are angry when they can't seem to comprehend the 21st century.

Remind me not to play poker with HRC,…. because somehow, in her mind, her pair of deuces would beat my triple aces, or it would be three months before we could move on to the next hand.

Her commitment to making sure every vote counts is such a thinly veiled attempt to set herself up for 2012, regardless of what damage it does to the democratic campaign this cycle. She is self serving, manipulative, and so insincere, I can't believe she is holding the party hostage like this.

Fortunately in this case, the righteous will prevail.

Sharon – where have you been? Obama doesn't need their money. He has much more money than they do, and has even offered to help her with her debt. I am totally incredulous at the kind of things people say on these posts that are so glaringly untrue that it makes me wonder what planet people are living on. Please check out your facts before you waste everyone's time posting garbage.

This is like a Twilight Zone episode that I once saw. The train a guy was on never stopped. Hillary, please stop. Winning by reinventing the rules is a Republican tactic.

Be carefull Obama-You really can't trust this woman
And you know it. I feel like she's gonna dupe you by all means neccesarry in other to get her way.

BE VERY CAREFULL AND DO NOT TRUST HER AND HER
CAMPAIGHN.

Keep it real people, the only reason Clinton is pushing those states is because she got a majority of votes there. She is so disingenuous. She would not be pushing if she had not won.

Talk about fairness, what about those who stayed home because they were told it would not count? Don't we want to be fair to those people.

The DNC should grow a pair and stick to the rules!

Why? Why should he meet her more than halfway? That won't be enough. Nothing will ever be enough.

I like your post Shelly.

IMO, hillary's 'girls' on here and other blogs have some issues with either past or present personal relationships. They all talk about Obama in a personal tense, faulting him for various personal attributes, none of them know him personally yet condemn, which is what? Personal issues being blamed on someone that can remain calm, rational and collected when they cannot. Strong men intimidate them and they don't like it.

for all you Hillaryites who read but do not easily comprehend, please read this extract from the above story:

"Obama now appears likely to finish the primary season with a delegate lead, including superdelegates, that WOULD NOT DISAPPEAR if both states’ delegations are seated based on the results of January’s contests, in which his name did not appear on the ballot in Michigan. "

Even if Hillary gets the delegates she won in Florida and Michigan and Obama gets the rest, she still won't overtake Obama!

So what exactly is she fighting for? No wonder Bill cheated so many times! The woman is disagreeable!!!!!

It is sad, but if Hillary and Obama are not on the ticket together…Republicans win.

Sorry.. we have come a long way but Obama needs Hillary

Not so sure Hillary needs Obama but She would make the dream ticket a reality.

Go Red Team

The Democrats are leaning to the right… No matter what the media pit bulls believe.

You see Hillary? If you had just taken the high road like Sen. Obama has consistently done this whole primary instead of making up stories about ducking bullets; folks might have, you know, not scored you as "untrustworthy". It's over…you lost…be a team player. Go Dems!

I posted twice on here but I never see them…I've noticed you throw in a Clinton supporter every once in a while….

I am macain supporter. I am secretly happy that clinton is messing democrates. Because this gives mccain an easy win in november if there is any democratic candidate to face him. However, I will be sorry for obama if he is not the nominee. Clinton doesn't deserve to be senater let alone president.

Well it looks like we are about to teach our kids what it means to break the rules and get what you want. Hillary Clinton has taken this party to a new low it seems as though we have taken a step back in History were some White Americans still have hatred towards Black People the only thing that West Virgina & kentucky showed us was that some peple need to venture out side of there neighborhood and see the world we live in today. The good old days are gone and they are never coming back.

No Matter how how you spin it these two states broke the rules and moved their primary ahead of the scheduled states they were told if you move your date you will be punished and tyhey did it anyway. I don't fault Florida to much because it was a Repubilcan Governer how moved up their date know that the DNC told them not too. So really Obama & Clinton are not to blame it was the Republicans just like 2000 all over again.

Remember their were rules established and they were broken

Don't do it Obama! She wouldn't do it for you if the tables were turned! She's not worthy and it's not fair for her to move the finish line every time the numbers don't work in her favor. The facts are
The voters in FL and MI knew their votes wouldn't count BEFORE they voted.

Hillarious knew that their votes wouldn't count BEFORE they voted.

The DNC stripped both states of their delegates BEFORE they voted,

and Hillarious SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE TO NOT HAVE EITHER STATES' VOTES COUNT BEFORE FL AND MI VOTED.

So, there's no "cooling off" period on this one; HILLARIOUS HAS RESULTED TO THE "BAIT AND SWITCH" TACTICS WOMEN GET ALL THE TIME FROM UNSCRUPULOUS CAR DEALERS AND REPAIR PERSONS…Oh the Irony in this one!

The facts are the facts and they are IN WRITING – HILLARIOUS' WRITING and OBAMA's WRITING! So for all of your people who say if Hillarious is not the Pres. nominee they will vote for Mc Go Get Your Cain, just imagine if Hillarious tried to change the rules of peace treaties, or played the "sexist" card with middle eastern countries, or better yet, what if sanctionions are necessary to impose on a country then when they meet all of the requirements fair and square, she changes them!
IS THIS THE LEADERSHIP YOU REALLY WANT? IS THIS WHAT AMERICA WANTS FOR IT'S FUTURE??? I THINK NOT.

Get real people! It's time to unite the democratic party and I hope that the SDs are seriously considering the ramifications of what Hillarious is doing to this party and to this country's future. It's time for the SDs to act… We, the people know that you did not want to be the deciding factor in this race, but this scorched earth campaign has gone on too long and every single one of you SDs know it. Now…is the time; make the RIGHT choice NOW. It is your commercial hitting the airwaves proclaiming " UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL" Now it's time to UNITE, both pledged and SDs…We have done our part, now do yours!

It is all Senator Obama's fault! He forced Florida and Michigan change their primary election dates. Then, he made the DNC disqualify the two states' primary elections. After, he forced all eight Democratic Party Presidential Candidates to sign an agreement that they will not campaign in Florida or Michigan; and not accept any delegates from those states. To make matters worst, he made both of those states' congresses vote not to hold re-elections. Next, he made them come up with compromise delegate seating that favored Senator Clinton. The worst part is that he made Senator Clinton reject those offers.

Lesson here: Never trust a black man to be honest about his words or intentions. He will make the government members do all sorts of things that they do not want to do; and he is going to pretend not to do anything. I don't know why so many Americans are duped into believing that honesty, integrity, trustworthiness, straightforwardness, transparency, fairness, and openness are the kinds of characteristics we want in a President. Senator Obama has too much of these things and that makes him a poor choice to be President.

What we need is a lying, cheating, sneaky, deceiving, hiding, under-handed, unfair, divisive, and secretive person to become President of the USA.

Now that I am not going to vote for Senator Obama because he is too honest, I will vote for Senator Clinton because of all her President-like characteristics.

DGH said it 100% right, how the Obama Campaign works.
He unmasked Obama.
The arrogance in this mens face makes me sick.
The same is true with his wife.

So…count the Florida ballots and face a law suit by those who did not vote because they were told it would not vote.

Count the Michigan votes but not the "uncommitted" and blame Obama because he took his name off the ballot because he was following DNC rules that she agreed to.Isn't it communist countries that do only put one candidate on the ballot?

Don't count the caucus voters even when she is the one "taking up the torch" for the disenfranchised.

Change the rules to whatever makes her win! If not the "supporters" will vote for McCain who has not one woman in contention for VP, and heads a party that can not attract minority groups.

I was part of the civil rights movement and a supporter of women's rights and this woman is going against almost everything we fought against.

This is not democratic and the superdelegates have to stand up and end this thing and people who care about this country have to start speaking up for what is right and goos!

This woman and her followers

The LastTime I Checked Mr Interesting Or Mrs The Delegate Count To Win The Democratic Nominee Were 2025 Has Mr Obama Accumulated That Amount Already.Fact Of The Matter Is You Ignorant People Who Support Mr Hussein Has Some Serious Mental Problems When It Comes To The Formal First Lady,Most Of You Are To Young To Remember The 80's,& The 90's Just Like Most Of You Who Oppose's The War Are Not Volunteering For Service Now Are You,It's Easy For Cowards To Sit Back And Discredit Someone Who Did Take A Stand On The Issues,Did Mr Obama Ever Take A Stand On Anything Except His Personal Hiding Place,Under Michele's Skirt.Besides I Here Senator Clinton Is Considering Running Independent Ticket If Not The demo,So Stick Around Folks And Let's See What Happens,Down The Road.

this is why she gets the uneducated vote!! this has nothing to do with obama.this was the party rules that they both agreed upon.that the states broke.rules are rules.why don't you reward ur kids,when they break the rules?? oh wait!! maybe u do! shane and DGH!!

The only thing Hillary deserves is a swift kick in the bu**!!!

HILLARY HAD AGREED WITH THE RULES BEFORE,SO WHY SHE WANTS TO BREAK THEM NOW? THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF PRESIDENT I THINK AMERICANS WANT IN THE WHITE HOUSE…….

IF NOT OBAMA…….MCAIN 08

obama cant seat the delegates you dumb as s the dnc has to a lot of you people are so dumb to believe that he's the cause of this it's the states not the canidates htey only follow the rules now she wants to break them because she's losing you dumb fu cks

I endorse Obama.

This is my first presidential election, so I may be missing something here, but shouldn't the fact that Obama's name WASN'T EVEN ON THE BALLOT in Michigan affect this decision more than it seems to?

THE MATH, THE DELEGATES & OTHER B S
THAT OBAMA PEOPLE FEED IN YOUR BRAIN DON'T MATTER
TO US. HILLARY IS WINNING MORE VOTE AND THAT THE
ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER .

That's right Sen. Obama…rise above and do what any rational sane and fair-minded adult would do for one who is behaving in a spoiled manipulative immature manner…feed them enough cookies to get their tummy full (FL/MI which they didn't outright win or earn and who also signed off that their delegates wouldn't count with the help of THEIR campaign people at the helm) and then put them down with a bottle (pledged delegates/SDs – 2026) and a nap (Democratic Presumptive Nomination)!

Clinton is clearly trying to sabatoge the Fall election for Obama. She is a sore loser, and no matter what she says when he becomes the official nominee, she is doing as much as she can now , so that he won't win in the fall. She has her eyes on 2012. Even with MI and Florida she can't win. Her objective is sabotage. How can anyone respect that. NO JOINT TICKET!

Who the frig does this obama think he is, this ain't his call. this is what the voters want, whether he likes it or not, the voters should have the say. What is this guy a dictator. What a facist pig.

REALLY REALLY She is a DISASTER THIS HILLARY !!!
She wants to do anything to be a President. I think if we ask her to sacrifice her family for this, she will do oi !!!!!!!!!!!

In any game any sport, I never saw a match between 2 boxers for exeample and the loser saying I am the real winner because I won the 12th round..

Or in Soccer game, the loser team saying: I've palyed better but unfortunately I didn't score, so I am the winner..

My godness This Hillary should not be in Politic.
Let's send her to Afganistan to fight the Talibans!

The rules are the rules

Shame on you Clinton's Family.. So arrogant.. Why you do not regognize that somebody (Obama) is better than you?

Why you do not count also Mexico, Brazil, Europe, etc.. until you will get the nomination?

If Americans people wants to promote another 4 years crash, put this woman as President.. You will provoke World war three for sure.

She is really A DESASTER WOMAN..

Jimmy
PhD.

The thing that bothers me about Mi. & Fl. is that she signed a pledge not to count these states. Thats never brought up on the talk shows. One of advisers, Mr. Ickes (as a memeber of DNC Rules Committee) voted to strip the two states. Now that she needs them she wants to change the rules. I would ask the people of Mi & Fl. to ask her if she felt your states are so important why did she sign the pledge. Also what do you do the next time a state wants to move up its primary.

The Senator from PUNJAB will fight like the Punjabis do. No quarter given and take everything for themselves.

The question I have is "Why are these two states an issue?" They broke the rules they helped write. They should pay for it. Hillary agreed that they should not be included until she was behind, and has now changed her tune. On the other hand, Hillary wants to discount the caucus states because somehow they aren't valid elections in her mind. Huh? Weird. So, Hillary has this interesting logic where states that will help her should be included, and those that Obama won should not be included…. I admit I can't follow this logic.

OK. Well, let's say we do it Hillary's way. Hillary still can't win. Why would she push so hard? Because she wants to win in the popular vote. The problem is that the popular vote does not nominate a candidate. The delegates do. I'm guessing next Hillary is going to want the rules changed so that the popular vote is the way the nomination gets accomplished.

I understand that Hillary is doing anything she can to win the nomination. She should be commended for her tenacity. Where it gets weird is that she wants all these rules changes so that things go her way. As president, she won't get to ask for these "do overs". What will she do then? It won't be pretty for her. She'll quickly get isolated by those that disagree with her, both nationally and internationally, and she may very well become the second worst president in US history.

I am watching Lou Dobbs right now and cannot believe what I'm seeing. Lou just read two emails from his viewers regarding the Florida and Michigan primaries and both the comments are surprisingly (!) pro-Clinton. Really, Lou? You never receive any anti-Clinton emails? Or is it that you are simply not inclined to read any email with which you do not agree or air any comment that does not serve your own personal political agenda?
It is so glaringly evident that you support Hillary Clinton that I cannot rely on you for unbiased news or views.
As for Michigan and Florida, did Hillary Clinton not agree to the rules before the results of those primaries came in? Why the sudden hysterical desire to count those states?
Isn't Clinton the person who was all about the *big* states like CA & NY, isn't she the one who implied smaller states don't matter? Only now when she needs smaller states like WV & KY, has she changed her mind. Is there anything she will not do or say to get this nomination? AND is there anything you will not do or say to make sure your broadcast is as pro-Clinton as possible?
Seriously, Lou?

Senator Clinton needs to be very, very careful about the liar Senator Obama. He will and do anything to win this election. His whole campaign has been about dishonesty. Don't let you guard down, Senator Clinton.
Remember he is the same man who said he did not know his mentor and pastor was a hate spewing racist. He is the same man who said he only knew Tony Rezko from 5 1/2 hours of legal work.
Yes, every vote needs to be counted as it was voted. Nothing less should prevail. The votes of FL and MI could have been settled months ago if Obama had wanted to play fair.

In the best interest of the Democratic Party and its prospects in November, Senators Clinton and Obama should work this out. It is critical that Michigan and Florida play a role at the convention and that Democrats residing in these key swing states become energized. The party and candidates are foolish to lose their last best chance at avoiding disaster here. If the DEM nominee loses Fla. and Mich, the GOP will take the White House in all likelihood.

The difficulty is that the issue is no longer delegates, and that's why Mr. Axlerod is willing to deal on delegates at this late stage after Team Obama blocked the issue for weeks and weeks. The issue is popular vote totals. Senator Clinton wants to count her Florida popular votes since they were cast on a level playing field with Mr. Obama on the ballot. Michigan is just a headache to sort out. But, get it done folks!!

If Hillary can break the rules in FL and MI by including their votes AFTER all agreeing that they would NOT count………. then maybe they can break the rules for California too and do a re-vote… because Obama would surely win for sure!!! Oh wait, she already wont THAT state, why do a re-vote?? She could care less about the votes in MI and FL is she had lost them…… she's only wanting to "count" them because she wants to win, not because of the vote. If she REALLY want to "could every single vote" she would not be excluding the caucuses from being counted!!!

Wake up Shane! Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan and we were told our votes would not count towards delegates in Florida. BOTH Clinton and Obama agreed to the same rules but now Hillary wants to change them.

The DNC has to resolve this, not the candidates. Let's not destroy the party, shall we?

Sharon in Minnesota, unlike Hillary Obama is able to raise money without Mich. or Fl. Before Feb 5th Hillary didn't give a flying f—— if those states were seated. Now that she has (get this straight) lost, she wants to seat them to try and steal the election. If she was so caring for the people in those states, she would have protested from the start. I don't blame Obama one bit for not counting them. They did not follow the rules and should be punished.

I hear people from Fl. saying " it was the Republican Gov., but what's the excuse for Michagan. Her friend the Gov. wanted to crown her with a win in Feb. too bad it didn't work. Now they want to change the rules when everything has been settled. I say hell to the nooooo!

I have to give it to Obama. Let's see what Clinton does now and if she is cordial and gracious enough to meet halfway. I bet my last dollar that she's not. It's just not in her nature.

At least he's willing to make a deal – not Clinton she wants it all even though the states of Florida and Michigan screwed their own voters with the bogus primaries.

To Sharon Minnesota: SHUT UP!

i hope obamas campaign is not selling his supporters down the drain. something seems awful fishy. is the dnc going to handthe nomation to hillary this witch will not quit untill she is nominated
or splits the dem. party to bad the dcc doesnt have the balls to stand
up to the clintons. if the dnc wants a revolt on there hands contune
to stick your head in the sand and give this to billary

Once more, OBAMA the accommodating consensus builder, ready to sit and talk, not only to Iran but even to those trying to steal the nomination from him.

Mrs Clinton wants to be President. Meanwhile, she wants to change the rules she agreed to, in order to win and be seen as champion of the states of Florida and Michigan. She has twisted the truth so much so often that it is now looking worse than a twister. Her math is pathetic and arbitrary. She has her campaign in debt, obviously because of poor management. What will she make of America?

By the way, shelly, we are not full of hate. We are angry voters who want their vote counted from our primary of January 29th. You should just zip it and unless you live here and have gone through it, you have no say so here. ZIP IT CHICKEE!!!!!!!!!!! HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Shane read the comment correctly…Duh
He's not giving her 100%. She didn't earn it even though she's flip flopping. The Republicans are going to eat her lunch!

1) NAFTA
2) Bosnia Sniper Fire
3) To tired to answer that 3am phone call
4) Not aware of the IRAQ consequences
5) Legal Problems in California over Party Donation Bribe
6) White don't vote for blacks
7) Rule Breaker
Won't pay debts
9) Elitist $109 Million but still owes $20 Million to Contributors
10) And all the rest

Cheaters never win

Do not do it. She is the one who has disenfranchised them because she is losing. If a revote is done OBAMA would win. OBAMA '08 '12

Wow, how big of him. NOW he wants our votes to count? Please, he showed us quite some time ago what he thinks of the residents of MI & FL…… not much.

It would be a bit easier to accept Senator Clinton's arguments to seat Florida if she was forthright about why she is pushing for it. Using the argument that "they deserve to have their votes counted" rings hollow when we all know the real reason she wants them counted is because she arguably "won" those primaries.

Lost in the discussion are those who didn't vote because they knew it wasn't going to count, or those who couldn't vote for Obama because he wasn't on the Michigan ballot. Also lost in the discussion is the fact that in those places where neither campaigned, the stronger name brand (Clinton) naturally pulled through votes. Time after time during the primary season, as voters in states where Clinton had commanding early leads, learned more about the other candidates (Obama in particular), Senator Clinton's lead evaporated. The fact that neither candidate campaigned in Florida or Michigan renders any voting in those states suspect. Though many voters did indeed cast ballots, but they were denied the opportunity to make informed decisions based on full exposure to these candidates.

As much as I respect Sentor Clinton's positions and record, I squirm each time I hear her make the blatantly self-serving arguments about how "the voters from Michigan and Florida deserve to be heard". Is there any doubt what she would be saying if the results in those states went the other way?

Taking a "principled" position because it is convenient is a dangerous way to try to to earn respect.

The Hillarator…She cannot be bargained with…she can't be reasoned with…she won't show remorse or pity…she'll never stop and she will keep coming until Obama has lost!! We need John Connor…lol

It is really to bad Hillary Clinton is such a selfish woman.. Hillary is not fighting for Americans or for FL & MI.. Hillary is "fighting: only for Hillary…

It won't matter how much Barack Obama gives to her it will NEVER be ENOUGH.. Not only is Hillary is greedy that way.. BUT… she also has tried in every disgusting way change the race and rules which she agreed too.

Hillary will not compromise because it is not in her nature. Hillary is going to destroy the nomination process as well as Hillary will take anybody down with her including our votes…..

While she screams for FL & MI she discounts the rest of American voters..

I did not vote for her and I will never vote for Hillary even for the sake of the democratic race.. I ethically cannot vote for her and her ethics or her lack of…

I am willing to suffer under McBush and hope for a better candidate next cycle.

Hillary's campaign is in debt and she will run a country with debt.. She is selfish and unreliable for the party..

Hillary needs to drop out now……….!!!

For God sake, why is Hillary still lying to her supporters.Why is she giving them false hope that she's gonna win or that she is leading in popular votes.Hillary is the one that is making her supporters not wanting to vote for Obama.Obama is winning . It is the work of God and people that have removed themseleves from in the BOX. WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONE

Hillary must fight on.

We need a fighter, no big rallies and no big talks, we need someone in the White House who can get things done.

I hope people figured it out by now, it takes a lot more than being a capable man or woman to go on against giant media when they write you off like happened so many times to so many people before.

Hillary 2008

What happens to Michigan where only Hillary's name was on the ballot papers? You cannot claim to vote where there's no contest….only one person contested!
In anyway it is done, Dems need to take that State in November.

This is SO not fun anymore.

There is something sick about Hillary Clinton's inability to let go. What do you think her motivation is, really?

Does she stand for the dignity of women when she stays with a man who would humiliate her and trash the sanctity of their marriage in front of the whole world?

I don't know what to think of this woman anymore.

SHAME on Sen CLinton for letting this get this bad. If the tables were turned the DNC and the Clintons would have demanded Sen. Obama get out a long time ago. SHAME we started this primary season on such a high note.

CNN, she didn't win those two primaries, because they weren't legitimate primaries.

Get your facts straightened out.

Oh great we have a person running for president that don't believe in following rules. No wonder Bill did his thing with Monica, they have no rules in their house. The Clintons motto is just do it I guess.
I never heard of her saying one word about FL or MI until she needed them. People of Fl and MI she doesn't give a HOOT about you all she cares about is Hillary. Don't be fooled.

I can understand Florida but not Michigan. How could anyone think it would be fair to honor that primary when Obama's name WAS NOT on the ballot?

HOWEVER CONDESCENDING OBAMA AND TEAM WISH TO BE, IT WILL BE ALL FOR NAUGHT. OBAMA CAN NOT WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION. HE WILL TAKE THE PARTY DOWN TO A SHAMEFUL DEFEAT. THIS IS THE PARTY ELDERS DOING. THEY THINK OBAMA WALKS ON WATER…..CLINTON 08

I am an Obama supporter, and I do believe there should be an equitable compromise in seating Fl & MI. The bottom line here is the rules were broken. There has to be consequences for that. While it's not the voters' fault, neither is it Sen. Obama's fault. But you would think HE was the one who broke the rules! I say watch out for Hilary. She is unscrupulous and not to be trusted! Don't let her and her underhandedness wrest away your nomination chances.

How sickening!

America is so hypocritical it is unreal. Bottom line those two states broke the rules causing their people the risk of losing their votes. Stop blaming Obama for something MI and FL leaders did. The man went by their rules including Hillary until she realized she was losing. It is just sad that people like your kind still exist. Woman or man rules are rules. That's why this country is screwed up; people want to make their own rules, break rules, stifle rules to appease themselves, etc.

Stop HATING, how will our children ever learn anything if we are acting like a bunch untrained adults. This is just pathetic; it is embarrasing to know that we are adults that can't even make decisions on the right basis. If Hillary was winning she could care less if these votes counted or not. She didn't start fighting for them until she realized that she was losing. Hillary supporters be true to yourselves you know Hillary is not only being hypocritical but has shown that she has been hiding under the cover concerning racism.

I never thought that I would ever feel this way about anyone. But I once highly respected Hillary and thought of her as a great example for all women. But she has failed us; at least the ones who believe in integrity, honesty, and respect.

When I think of the Clinton supporters that rant on these boards I imagine banjo music and white hoods. If nothing else, Obama's success demonstrates that at long last we as a society may be ready to move beyond the issues of race.

I think the delegates should be slit 50-50 after all the two states
did break the rules and there is no way they should not go unpunished. The rules are the rules. If we the people allow
any group or indiviauls to change the rules in the middle of
the game are only showing our children and other people in the world that we cannot be trusted. Without rules and regulations
this world would be in CHAOS.

They (candidates) ALL agreed on the rules from the start. Period.

Hillary wasn't concerned until she lost Iowa and South Carolina, THEN she was concerned.

Hillary was playing with fire when she left her name on Michigan's ballot KNOWING she was going to use this if she wasn't winning.

She used EVERY disgusting tactic…VERY unbecoming of a president…more like a spoiled brat. Hillary is SO unpresidential.

Hillary is damaging the party and she doesn't care at all and McCain would use THAT against her…her divisiveness. Her scorched earth policy.

Then there's that Paul v Clinton case that she doesn't have to testify on until AFTER November. Why after elections?

Addressing DGH's comment:

Your complaint is ridiculous. This is an election CAMPAIGN. Every candidate is trying to win and if Obama can "attack" while he, in your words, "says something with a smile, a casual, slow drawl, leaning back on a stool with his hands in his pockets, as if we're all buddies at a local barbeque," then isn't that a huge improvement over the current norm in US politics? I think we've all seen that Obama is capable of going on the offense while remaining polite. You apparently think that he's a hypocrite if he goes on the offense at all. Yes, he said he was going to try to take the high road in his campaign–I don't remember him EVER saying he'd never attack.

Incidentally, when exactly did he name Ronald Reagan his idol? I must have missed that and you didn't cite your source.

The delegates should be counted IN FULL from the January 29th primary. That is the only fair compromise that Senator Obama should make. We voted and we made our choice. If the situation were reversed, Senator Obama would want the delegates counted in full from the results. Stop making compromises and award the results fair and square. Senator Obama is the ONLY one who has held up this process. If he wants Florida and Michigan on his side in November, he should step aside and let ALL THE VOTES BE COUNTED. If he means what he says, he would do this without hesitation. Come on already, Senator Obama, let's get this done so we can continue without any more roadblocks. Florida has spoken. HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

ALL VOTE MUST COUNT NOT HALF

ALL VOTE, ALL VOTE, ALL VOTE MUST COUNT
BECAUSE THEY ALL PAY TAXES
SO COUNT THERE NO NEGOTIATION

For all the Senator Obama fans THERE IS A SURPRISE COMING. Most of the media already know about it but do not want to be the first to report it in fear of being called racist. I understand a radio station have said a little about this matter. If this information is correct that I have heard Senator Obama will be in a bind.

if she really cared about Michigan and Florida being counted, why did not she appose to the DNC rules from the beginning that excluded Michigan and Florida. It is like agreeing to the rules, get in the game, and when you loose, you blame it on the rules. enough if enough!

Hillary supporters are so delusional. They insist on blaming Obama for something created by the michigan and florida dems. They are also so gullible. Do they not realize that HIllary is on video saying the votes in Michigan and Florida will not count???? She even signed the same piece of paper that OBama did saying the primary election in michigan and florida will not count!!!!!!! Seriously, are Hillary supporters and florida and michigan residents that primitive that they feel Hillary is doing this charade to "count all the votes". c'mon…wake up and smell the aroma of pandoring by the Clintons. They are so good and fooling the american people and it seems it's working yet again.

disgusted democrat for life and Obama supporter…at least we can all brag that SMART PEOPLE SUPPORT OBAMA

To: Sharon Minnesota

(Oh, now that he wants their money he's getting more cooperative. What a guy!! Please Florida & Michigan don't give him any credit, he's the one who wouldn't allow your vote way back when.)

Go get yourself a clue! If your were educated or bother to read things beyond the headline you would know full well that Sen Obama had nothing to do with MI and FL it was campaign rhetoric spread by Sen Clinton herself just another of her many many campaign lies! well documented facts! she has lied over and over.

If you have something legit to say about Sen Obama, and there is some valid points you could make.Please post them and leave the Clinton lies to her campaign they are far better at it than you! and most people reading these posts can quickly jump over to Google and find out if something is valid fact or rhetoric gossip!

Go Obama 08 Yes We Can

If Obama is willing to go more than half-way on Fla. and Mi. maybe he should consider going at least half-way on the votes cast in the caucus states. Let's face it . If all states had open primaries rather than caucuses, Hillary would have left Obama in the dust months ago. The polls clearly show that Hillary has a better shot at beating McCain, and still the superdelegates are supporting Obama. Apparantely the Democratic party leaders are willing to lose the general election , rather than have a female for president.

If Obama is GIVEN this nomination by the DNC, I will surely vote for McCain as millions of others will. Apparently voting in the U.S. doesn't really count anyway if the DNC doesn't give Hillary Florida and Michigan that she deserves.

Shane read it again, he is willing to give up more delegates than splitting it 50/50.

Like she really cares. Did we hear any of this talk when she was thinking she would be the nominee, NO!! She is just a politician being political. The elections in Florida and Michigan were not fair and should not and can not be counted. Splitting the delegates does nothing except create an illusion of fairness – which is absurd!

But whatever, I'm tired of this mess and tired of listening to all this whining.

She has to follow rules and DNC Laws. There are some suggestion to offer a spot on the US Supreme Court is ridiculous. If she can"t follow the laws here I can image what she will do on the Supreme Court. She has no qualifications.There is only one alternative 50-50 on delegate votes and popular votes other than that Mi & Fla votes will not count. The simple fact is that next election other states will do the same, cause they can and know that there vote will count. They can vote in the General election

Democratic supporters (even HRC supporters, if you are really wanting to call yourselves Democrats). I urge you to send a strong message to the DNC requesting fair play in this process. We all know the antics of Hillary Rodham Clinton and how she will do and say ANYTHING to become President. She has repeatedly lied about NAFTA (her claim for those rural, blue-collar workers votes) and her divisive tactics. She is now requesting both Florida and Michigan votes to be counted, knowing that these states broke the rules, which she agreed to from the beginning. BTW she also bragged about how supedelegates should exercise independent judgement (of course, when she thought they all would vote for her), a strategic plan that has now backfired on her!! I believe these superdelegates have now switched to Obama for this very reason….Robert, Reich, Bill Richardson, the list continues to grow!! Personally, I would like to see a woman as President, NOT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON!!

Experience, experience! Is the type of experience that Hillary is now showing regarding FL and MI what the Democrats really want for this nation? This woman is a "shame" and disgrace to women; I would not want any of my daughters to ever read about Hillary! I am now over 50 years plus and have closely followed the public lives of the Clintons.

THERE SEEMS TO BE NO APPEASING SOME OF YOU HILLARY SUPPORTERS,.. LIKE SHARON MINNESOTA. OBAMA IS BEING MORE THAN GENEROUS, YET YOU PEOPLE ARE NEVER SATISFIED, JUST LIKE YOUR QUEEN HILLARY. DO US ALL A FAVOUR, TAKE YOUR CRYING TOWELS, YOUR WHINY PETULANCE AND GO RUB SALT IN YOUR WOUNDED PRIDE.

HRC agreed with all the candidates and DNC not to count the votes of FL & MI, but as with everything else she have said and done, she did not mean it at all. She will not be happy until she have her way. I listen to her speech today and thought if this lady becomes president she will still be flip-floping to her heart content.

There were a time when I would have voted for her but watching her these past months have really changed my mind about her. At first it was great to have a woman run for the high office in the land, but she have made a mockery out of now.

I also feel that if she do not get what she want on May 31, she will be announcing that she is going to run independent with the excuse that the women and the white uneducated people do not want her to quick.

People really need to listen to her words and when she have slip of the tongue as she calls it, who is she really running for office for. I do not think it is much for the people of US but for herself.

Last night before going to sleep, the news broadcasters on both the T.V. and radio, made no mention whatsoever that our nation was not a Democracy anymore. When I woke up this morning and looked out my window, Old Glory, the flag which many have given their lives to keep our country a Democracy, was still flying in the gentle but steady wind. Then I read and hear that the primary votes from the good people of Florida are being withheld from our Democracies Presidential total? Did someone mislay them, and cannot now be found? Did the bags containing these precious votes, somehow became unsecured, with the contents being scattered to the winds? Did a thief break and enter the room where these important votes were being stored, only to vanish into the dark of night? Did the Good citizens of Florida forget to pay their taxes, with their votes being held as some horrible form of collateral? Nope, none of the above. The good people of Florida voted, some traveling great distances to do their duty as Great Americans, only to hear that their votes will not be counted. This country is a Democracy. The voting process goes back to the ancient Greece, birthplace of Democracy. In order for our nation to remain a Democracy, the votes of the citizens of Florida and Michigan must be counted. Hillary Clinton has taken up the cause to see that the votes of the good citizens of Florida and Michigan be counted. Do the math and look around. I did not know of any previous attempts on the part of Mr. Obama to take action so the votes of all Americans be in the final count. Only one candidate, Hillary Clinton has taken up the cause to see that all votes are counted, so our nation remains a Democracy! We are with you Hillary! We have not forgotten that our Nation is a Democracy, and the INERTIA and Failure of others to do so is a stain on Our Nations Honor

SHE IS JUST WAITING FOR THIS, SO THAT THEN SHE CAN TRY AND STEAL THE NOMINATION FROM OBAMA…BUT IT WILL NOT WORK..I THINK THE PEOPLE ALREADY SPOKE AND THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE GOIN HIS WAY….SO MOVE OVER HILLARY…BECAUSE THIS MEANS NOTHING…OBAMA JUST WANTS TO GET OVER THIS AND MOVE ON TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.

Florida already screwed up two elections. (hanging chads lol). They have had eight George Bush years to get their act together. It may be best to just let this state sit out until they gain a little more education on how the
electorial process works before they can be trusted to make any decisions regarding the country.

Yes We Can.

Sharon of Minnesota, DGH and Hillary supporters in general, please give it a rest!!!

Hillary lost. Side out. Game over. Everyone knew and clearly stood the rules at the beginning.

Hillary supporters, the question is very simple. How many contests do you know of where the rules are changed during the middle of the contest so that the loser can catch up?

N O N E !!!!

Game over, let's move on! Enough of the Silly Season!!!

Its a shame! I mean a big shame to HRC.When she was untop on the overall votes.I mean the pledge and super delegate votes and the FL & MI were not sanctioned of their votes,she was all smiles and very ok with it.But why now that the most prominent candidate,one whom i pronouce "One in a life time Leader" is right on track,hillary eventually turned into a monster trying to change the rules that was levelled even before the primaries and cacauses begins.It has finally shows how desperate she is,how desperate she aims at destroying america further more.I just imagine sometimes how sliky and fake she is.Obama,u are a God sent leader.In God we trust….God has finally sent you out to revive America.Lead on Obama…God bless you

Lana,

The rules for choosing a nominee continue to change, continue to become more democratic (McGovern-Fraiser reforms, anyone?).

What could be more fair than a primary contest where each vote, from whatever state, is counted equally.

Caucuses benefit an intense minority and the well to do who have the time and the luxury to go to party meetings. And disfranching entire states? What about cementing the choicest spots to two states that are unrepresentative of the entire country? Serious reforms are needed. But do we have to wait till the end of an election to right these wrongs? No. Superdelegates do what you're here for.

Clinton is too sneaky — do not give away the bank. She will devour you if you do.

This woman represents the height of greed and ambition, in my opinion. She is willing to destroy Obama so she can run again in 2012. I can't see any other reason why she would be going through all this madness. There can't possibly be a way she will be the nominee.

Someone tell the ridiculously stupid 'White blue collar voters' to stop voting for this racist woman.

Senator Obama was adamantly opposed to re-votes, but now he is willing to "compromise". Votes are not a commodity subject to negotiation. Each of those votes represents the preference of an individual. They all deserve to have their votes count as they were cast.

I feel just as much sorrow for those who won't vote for a person because she is a woman. Just because you're not voting for Obama doesn't mean you're a racist – based on that premise those not voting for Clinton are sexists.

It comes down to experience and judgement – we really do not need another President who learns on the job – look what happened the past 8 years.

I'm a Clinton supporter – I'm not in a frenzy, I'm not uneducated, I'm not a racist – I weighed my options and in my opinion, as an American who loves her country – I'm supporting Senator Clinton and could never vote for Barack Obama – he's too inexperienced, shows a lack of judgement and has no plans for this supposed change coming to our country.

"Why did Obama block the revote"

You guys give Obama a lot of credit. His campaign simply pointed out that there wasn't enough legislative support for it in Michigan and that in Florida, it was cost prohibitive.

When the cost issue was addressed, by a private voluntary donation if it were to happen, it was done by a direct threat to the DNC by a pro Clinton supporter. There's bias at it's best.

Obama didn't block the vote or revote.

You Obama haters will latch on to anything, even misinformation, it seems.

Look in to real news, not Clinton rhetoric if you want answers.

DGH…God help you…

I agree with you shelley. Obama is agreat candidate. Hilary needs to follow rules. I quite sure when you were raising your daughter you set rules. this the reason why she grew-up to be a extraodanary young woman that you are proud off.

This is a set up, if Hillary had a problem with the rule, why did she not speak up at the time DNC made the ruling. Florida and Michigan's elected officials are responsible for this mess and DNC should not change the rule.

If this election is given to Hillary them we know what kind of country we live, this would be a Shame Before GOD. If a person will steal they will lie and she has proven this to be true because she's done both.

DNC if this nomination is given to Hillary dont believe the polls who say a large percent will of the population will vote for Hillary, because there will be a big surprise at the polls and you can take that to the bank….

This is a test of Obama's diplomacy. Diplomacy involves willingness to accept compromise, while not disadvantaging yourself. I hope the Obama campaign resolves this 50-50 or NO DEAL. Let the voters decide in November. We are a nation of rules, and we must obey our rules if we are ever to be taken seriously.

Emeka, South Florida

ALL I can say is Hill…..it's OVAH. Do yourself a favor and go away better yet go gather up all of the conservative Dems in WV and Kentucky and explain how Barrack is not a racist and how he only wants to bring America together. America looks like a melting pot but I guess WV and good Ole Kentucky don't get it yet!!

Your are bringing the party down. Step aside and dont be a sorry loser, I will even vote for you in 2016, as long as you play fair!!!

OBAMA 08-16

both Obama AND Clinton agreed, and signed, a statement saying neither state should bd acknowledged in this election because they broke the rules..

Unlike the 48 other U.S. states who were content to oblige by
the rules set out by the DNC.

It would not be very democratic if FL and MI were included!!

I wonder if he got some slack today in Florida thats why they are doing this. hmmmmmmmm

As an independent in Florida, I chose not to register as a democrat to vote in the primary because it was not going to count under the rules. I did however vote that day because there was a significant property tax amendment on the ballot. The voter turnout in Florida was not historic because of the primaries but largely because of the constitutional amendment on the ballot. My vote counted that day as did everyone who voted that day on the amendment to reduce their property taxes. This dynamic has not been accounted for in any discussion on the issue.

DGH and Sharon Minnesota – you both sound really sad.

It's no secret that the actual election from Michigan and FLorida results are flawed for a number of reasons.

This is a American … not Bosnia … our code of ethics and integrity don't honor election results that are tainted in any way.

Let all 50 states' delegates be seated in Denver …. translation …. let them all vote on the Democratic Party Platform.

Let those primaries held lawfully, contribute to the selection of the nominee.

This preserves representation for Michigan and Florida while giving credence to the nominating process per the pre-agreed upon rules.

DEAL -or No DEAL?

THE DNC MADE THE RULES NOT OBAMA
Its true there is an education gap between Obama and Clinton supporters but why something this simple is so hard to understand? Thats a question directed to the Clinton supporters.

Please don't gave her one inch, I don't trust her at all. By the way she is trying to escape a trial schedule in november Paul vs Clinton…

THIS IS NOT OBAMA'S FAULT! Michigan proposed a compromise and Clinton opposed it! Didn't know that, did you? I hear people saying that Obama fought a re-vote in Michigan. He didn't fight a re-vote. He fought a re-vote privately funded by Clinton supporters. No candidate would agree to that. Obama has been very gracious to Hillary, which is now more evident when you see how he is slamming McCain. He's supposed to slam McCain-he's the opposition.

As far as Florida and Michigan getting 1/2 delegates, that's what the RNC gave them! No one is complaining about that, though. Stop blaming Obama and blame those trifling politicians in Florida and Michigan, and Harold Ickes, who sit on the by-laws committee.

since when America has become dynasty Clinton/Bush pleas wake up

Hillary just don't know what she is doing to herself. When does she run for senate again? I'm from New YOrk and she definately will not have my vote.

So, let me get this straight… the folks who are supporting Obama in Michigan will get no say because HRC wants that state to give Obama zero delegates because his name wasn't on the ballot? And the Clinton supporters are asking why not?? Heck, why not just give her all the delegates in every state… who care what those silly voters have to say anyway? SNL has absolutely nailed her "I deserve it" agenda.

I'M SO TIRED OF THIS…OBAMA, DO YOUR THING AND DO IT WELL. SPOILED PEOPLE ALWAYS TRY MANIPULATE OTHERS INCLUDING HILLARY THE DESPERATE. OBAMA SUPPORTERS DON'T GIVE UP HOPE FOR CHANGE, JUST CLAIM IT!

Uh oh!

Has the Obama campaign finally figured out that they have alienated two states that will be critical in the November election? (In addition to the way the Obama elites have just alienated the "backwoods, racist, redneck, uneducated" states that just voted overwhelmingly for Clinton)

This half-hearted, and late realization will be part of Obama's downfall when McCain wins both states and the presidency.

To Sharon.
Hillary does not care about you or your comments trust me, and she knew the rules from the start, she is a donkey and can't win either way!!
So vote for McSame and I hope there will be a draft to send your loved ones to war because with Mcsame we will have a war with a lot of countries and not win. So with that in mind get ready, if you are lucky enough to move.

Someone send if Obama wins get ready for a bad 4 years, are you dumb, did you not just see the last 8 years moron.

Shane,
Michigan and Florida are part of the USA, that's why they should have followed the rules that applied to all the other states.

This means Michigan and Florida will be rewarded for having broken the rules. They broke them so they should go first, thinking it would matter. Now they're going last and that's why Hillary suddenly discovered they might matter.

Should those two states be allowed to flaunt the rules that applied to the other states? I think not. Precisely because they are part of the United States and not two break-away rogue states.

No to compromise. Florida and Michigan went out and voted for Hillary because she cared enough to leave her name on the ballot. The votes belong to her. She is ahead in the popular vote.
So guys, stop holding up those cards with those incorrect math figures, You all might wish this was all over but it is not. Looks like we will be going to the convention. Never under estimate the power of a woman.

I just realized that Hillary is ALSO running on a CHANGE platform:

CHANGE the rules
CHANGE the process
CHANGE the numbers
CHANGE the metrics
CHANGE the goalposts

…… I think you see where I'm headed here…….

Hillary Clinton deserves a spot on this ticket. Obama supporters and the media need to stop trying to push her out. Instead focus on the fact that Obama only becomes President if Clinton's on the ticket!! All of those states that he has won in caucuses, etc, will still be RED after November. Time to go after the combination that can put together an electoral college victory. That's Obama-Clinton.

Why does Hillary keep getting away with this crap. if this was Obama acting in this way, there would be a national outcry about him destroying the party and he's sexist and he doesn't know when to quit, etc,etc,etc.

Hillary lost fair and square. Settle up

Obama is so smooth, he's even got his supporters fooled. Can't wait to see their faces if he does get the nomination… and this country goes under because they were so determined to have him and his "change". Funny….that is all his supporters and him say…we want change, but they never say what that is! Because everything he talks on is what he's already heard Hillary talk about. Since the majority of his supporters say they would vote for Hillary if he's not the nominee just further supports the reasoning that she IS more electable because most of her supporters will NEVER vote for him. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

My issue is why wasn't this a big issue when she agreed to this in the start of the campaign? Why is she now pressing this issue now that she is getting beat by Obama? It just doesn't make sense and makes her look like a true sore loser. This should have been addressed the DAY THEY VOTED or BEFORE not AFTER WE ARE MONTHS AWAY FROM VOTING IN NOVEMBER?!!

Respect for her has vanished…

Hillays plan to revote michigan included voting for only those who voted uncommited in january election.

No person with IQ over 100 could agree to this ridiculous plan..and now she goes around saying obama blocked revote…

disgusting is a very small word!!!!

As a Floridian, I would prefere a do-over. Let them campaign in the state. Hillary can say whatever she wants and I will still VOTE OBAMA!!!!

Good day. I said Good Day!

Hillary has set women back.
The Clintons are a disgrace.
Obama 08

Florida and Michigan broke the DNC rules. These states don't count. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 48 STATES THAT FOLLOWED THE RULES???

Yep — the man is taking the high road, as I would expect him to do. THIS is what we need in a leader — and just one reason he will take this country back to its position of respect worldwide.

It should be remembered that when the DNC made the decision not to count Florida or MIchigan, Obama appears not to have been a factor. At that time the DNC was under the political influence of the Clintons more than an other candidate. If all the candidates agreed to follow the DNC ruling, then this should be documented and presented to the voters. If any candidate broke the rules then this should be determined and made public. This is true for Obama as well as Clinton.

Once that is clarified, then a meaningful compromise can be develop. Otherwise the residual emotion concerning blame over the initial decision would leave unpredictable residuals.

However Hillary Clinton talks now like she is blameless or did nothing wrong and suggest that Obama is stopping Florida and Michigan from being seated at the convention. The voters need clarification NOW NOT 2 WEEKS FROM NOW.

GO CLINTON!!!! Wow, Obama, can not face the fact she is the only one whom can defeat McCain, The democrats need Florida and Michigan And Ohio, and not to forget Pennsylvania! HILLARY WON THEM ALL!!!!!!!

If George Bush didnt win Florida then Kerry would of been President. You see how important it and Michigan are to the democrats, if there votes don't count, they WILL support McCain, plain and simple. Wise up Gov. Howard Dean

They've got to do something that doesn't disenfranchise the voters while at the same time penalizing Florida & Michigan for breaking the rules. Clinton is being unreasonable if she expects to seat the delegates without a penalty or compromise.

All these attacks from Senator Clinton make no sense regarding Florida and Michigan. Senator Clinton was fully supportive of the DNC's decision when it was first made to strip them of their seats and going into the first primary stated so.
Once Senator Clinton found herself behind in February, then she suddenly became the voice of these lost voters in Florida and Michigan. For whatever reason, everyone seems to have forgotten her previous position which makes her current stance nothing more than self-serving.
Florida and Michigan knew the rules and have been made to pay the price by both the DNC and RNC. All the presidential candidates knew this as well and agreed to those rules. Because of this, I would be hard pressed to continue to support the DNC if they reversed or partially changed their decision to appease a candidate that wasn't winning. If this has been some forth or fifth tier candidate, it would not have even made the news much less a special session of the DNC's rules committee.

You have to question Hillary's priorities at this point, and it certainly appears that ethics doesn't count for much with her. The lies, the say anything to win mentality, and her race-baiting comments disgust me.. It's inconceivable to me that she could agree to a set of rules before the primaries, publicly flip-flop the way she has, and still retain one ounce of credibility.

Both candidates agreed with the rules before the primaries. I agree some representation should be made for delegates of Florida and Michigan, but they should be split equally between Obama and Clinton. It's unfair to the rest of the states to give these renegade states' primaries equal footing with the rest of Americans who played by the rules. And tell Hillary the Spoiler to just SHUT UP before she ensures another Republican occupant in the White House this November.

Sen Obama's campaign lackeys like Axelrod are wrong. This is the campaign that would not earliler compromise and his patronizing comments will drive Clinton supporters away from Obama.

Darn Hillary you make me sick.

Can't you go gracefully? You lost and you agreed to the rules.

Superdelegates wake up and put Obama over the hill, that this mess comes to an end.

GO Obama

These are the little half, well not even half, maybe miniscule-truths that Hillary tells in order to swing an election that is clearly over her way, or at least to sabotage Obama so she can try (and lose) again in 2012. You have to question the reasoning behind Hillary supporters at this point still saying she should be the nominee. Is she a better candidate in the fall? Maybe, I don't think so, but who knows. But did she win the democratic primary? No. By no metric. And if you choose to vote for McCain over Obama solely because he beat your favorite candidate while ignoring all of their similarities on policy, you are doing your country a great disservice.

Obama '08

So – Due to the DNC who made the rules – Obama could have put his name on the Florida/Michigan Ballot but CHoose not to. Clinton CHoose to. A choice open to both of them. Floridians wanted a vote…..so Clinton received the votes because Obama was not on the ballot. Apparently Michigan decided not to have a ballot. No votes for either in Michigan.

Now Floridians want their voices heard. Could you blame them? They did take the time to vote! BUT the DNC and Florida do not want their votes to count !? How is this Fair? How can any Committe or State willfully keep their constituents' votes out of contest and call it fair or Demoncratic? If I was a Floridian I'd be Fuming Also! It's like all other votes are important except theirs! Aren't all equal in a Democracy?

And Why is it that in the last two elections at least the State of Florida has pulled a "Let's Rock the Boat" and Churn up the Election Waters Theme? Why did they have to change their date? No other State had to. What's with the State Government in Florida? (Excluding Chads of course.)

But…but…wait…I thought this was all Obama's fault? Why is he trying to compromise? THis makes no sense! Didn't he write the DNC rules AND change Florida and Michigan's primary dates? Whoa, I can't comprehend this move.

So – Due to the DNC who made the rules – Obama could have put his name on the Florida/Michigan Ballot but CHoose not to. Clinton CHoose to. A choice open to both of them. Floridians wanted a vote…..so Clinton received the votes because Obama was not on the ballot. Apparently Michigan decided not to have a ballot. No votes for either in Michigan.

Now Floridians want their voices heard. Could you blame them? They did take the time to vote! BUT the DNC and Florida do not want their votes to count !? How is this Fair? How can any Committe or State willfully keep their constituents' votes out of contest and call it fair or Demoncratic? If I was a Floridian I'd be Fuming Also! It's like all other votes are important except theirs! Aren't all equal in a Democracy?

And Why is it that in the last two elections at least the State of Florida has pulled a "Let's Rock the Boat" and Churn up the Election Waters Theme? Why did they have to change their date? No other State had to. What's with the State Government in Florida? (Excluding Chads of course.)

Hillary supporters are just "bitter" and clinging to their queen.

They broke the rules, that's why they DO NOT COUNT. The DNC made the decision, they were warned, the parties agreed to it, then AFTER THE FACT… Clinton decides that she needs those people and it becomes an issue. Same with Hispanics, same with White, Blue Collar Americans…. same as she tried with African-Americans.

No Mr. Axelrod does not want a compromise. He wants something that will not compromise his campaigns supposed victory. He does not want a morale compromise.

A re-vote was ready to be paid for and done and Obama's campaign said no thank you.
Why should anyone compromise for Mr. Obama after that?

Funny how this was NEVER an issue when Hillary was winning…..

JUST READ……..Clinton taking the vote count to the convention…..This is not good

Dear Hillary supporters:

So you are pushing for Florida and Michigan to be counted, because it is only fair that every vote be counted. I agree.

Unfortunately, as a Michigan resident, I was told prior to the primary that my vote would not count whatsoever. I am a Barack Obama supporter with a polling place literally two blocks down the road. I stayed home after work and did not go vote because I was told my vote would not count. Now she wants to say that unless the votes are counted the entire primary is illegitimate? Really? Obama was not EVEN ON THE BALLOT in MI. And it wasn't as though he was the only one. Richardson, Dowd, Biden, Edwards….None of them were on the ballot. The only two that were were Hillary and Kucinich.

BHO has the AUDACITY to step foot in Florida/Michigan? He thinks he is something special. Well, I am one of those female democrats who will NOT vote for him period. He is a hypocrit, CON-ARTIST, arrogant, race-hustler who now wants the voters in FL/MI to vote for him after he fought against their votes being counted. Sounds like baby Bush 2000 all over agains

Yes, Shelly; all Hillary supporters are racist. That's why they're voting for her. It couldn't be because they feel she's the better candidate, right? For someone to not worship the ground Obama walks on, it has to be because of the color of his skin, not because they feel he's unqualified, right?

Go Ralph Nader!

Let all votes count, thats the( American Way ) Remember the world is watching

Enough with Roe V Wade. Do you people really believe we are going to vote for someone untrustworthy because of Roe V Wade? I have never known anyone who has taken advantage of that right. Why on gods green earth whould I vote for someone based SOLEY on that.

Sharon in Minnesota….do you READ? Everyone knows this was not a candidate decision; Fl & MI didn't follow the rules. Are you so silly that you don't get that? HRC tells you something untrue because she knows her people are too lazy to learn the truth and you'd rather someone else do your thinking for you. Obama is not the reason they don't count. And HRC is the one who rejected the last deal by MI to seat their delegates.

It is frustrating to see how utterly ridiculous some of you are. I can't believe people old enough to vote are not smart enough to seek answers beyond what they are told.

Many here in Tampa did not vote, especially those not affected by the property tax issue that was on the same ballot. My sister and I both voted for Obama. How dare Hillary imply that she wants our votes "to count."

The rule of law must apply ….

Let's all be clear here that any resolution of the FLorida and Michigan disputes WILL NOT be allowed to alter the outcome of the contest.

This primary ( in 2008) is not the 1st time the DNC has contemplated this scenario and established some prior recommendations for how to treat it.

They don't include applying majority of the the offending state's delegates to determine the nomination.

It could and SHOULD however include allowing ALL DELEGATES to vote on the PARTY's PLATFORM.

According to Hillary:

Only big states matter–unless you are a small state with mostly white, high school only educated voters

The pledged delegates decide on the nominee–unless you don't have the majority.

It's up to the super delegates–unless you can't get them behind you then…

It's up to the popular vote–as long as you don't give any Michigan votes to Obama and don't count the states that have caucusses

You can't disenfranchise voters–unless they are the ones who stayed home because they thought their vote wouldn't count.

She welcomes your vote if your a racist but shames those she thinks are sexist

Wake up democrats….it's not about you….it's all about her.

Obama should get all the uncommitted in MI and his and all his supporters votes in Florida. That is as far as he should go. Who cares if she gets the popular vote then. She's been claiming it since the delegates looked out of reach in early April anyway. I don't really understand how Hillary supporters think this is fair play. Would they be this vocal if the roles were reversed. Of course not. Fighting for the case of the fight when your on the same team is just stupid. Hillary should just keep her poise, see her way to June 3rd, then graciously drop out.

OH….

SO MISTER OBAMA "UNITY & CHANGE"
ONLY WANTS TO DISENFRANCHISE HALF THE VOTERS ???

First HE THREW WEST VIRGINIA & KENTUCKY Under the Bus

…Now this…

So much for "Hope & Change"

….a facade

Big mistake to give in anything to the Clintons! They will eat you alive if they could! Never trust any Clintons!

Smooth!….

I think that it is unfair and that all of the votes should be counted. I also think that if there was a move that the super delegates should make ,they should have a ticket with both Obama and Hillary, Wake
Up America, The best Woman for the job is Hillary and if you put another woman inher place it would be a slap in the face. I will hope that all woman would march on the DNC and the White House in Protest!!! All Women Groups should be standing up united against the gender basis in this election, it is not sore losser it is just so true. The John on CNN is os bitter and his hate for Hillary is just wrong.

Revote! It's the only thing that is fair to both candidates and states, and the Democratic Party needs these two states in November.

We wouldn't be in this mess if the DNC had followed the rules and only stripped them of half of their delegates. It makes me doubt Howard Dean and the rest of the leadership's impartiality, because these states favored Clinton.

Go Hillary!

P.S. It's a little late Obama, once again you're all talk. Hillary has been proposing solutions for a long time now. And to those who are too short sighted and see this as only a political move by Clinton, I hope you remember this when McCain is elected in November.

Hillary is up to something but it will not work for her. the MI and FL votes that hillary wants counted is not for MI and FL, is for Hillary and Hillary alone. She's a fool, a big fat fool. She wants to damage the only visible chances of Democrats taking over the white hse. she knows that she will not get the nomination, but her pride and ego will not let her. shame on you hillary, shame on you bill, shame on you little miss wana be president in 10yrs

What is Hillary's goal???????????????

Stop whinning – I am a 69 year old woman and I am tired of listening to these arguments. Isn't the ultimate goal of the Democratic Party to win the White House??????????????

REAL ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT OUR FUTURE AS A WOMAN IN AMERICA IS NOT ONLY IN OCCUPYING THE wHITE hOUSE AT ANY COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sen. Clinton needs to go and set down. She still want win, it not part of God's plan for her. Do she not no.

I am for counting all the votes…all the ones casted even in the Caucus States…so lets start counting.

COUNT THE VOTES
IDAHO
MONTANA
NEVADA
IOWA
NEBRASKA
SOUTH DAKOTA
NORTH DAKOTA
ETC.
ETC.

Florida & Michigan knew what they were doing when they did it!! Someone please help me understand why folks are so upset w/Sen Obama about it ??!!! He didn't make the rule & he's NOT the one that broke it……If Sen Clinton felt so strongly about it, why not say something right from the giddy-up?? Not just a few months back when she realized she'd be needing those votes but I mean WAY back, right when they decided to hold their primaries early???
She's not to be trusted….

Wow, What a guy. After the race he is willing to give the delegates she should have had months ago when the race was still in doubt. How do you give her back any momentum she may have had after these big wins? Florida would have been a stomping. This guy is such a doofus. On the bright side it used to make my stomach turn on election day when all those states turned red. This year I can say " I knew it". He has no shot. Most Obama supporters know it. That's why they are already blaming Hillary.

Of course he's willing to go more than halfway. He knows, by all rights, she should be the nominee. He also knows that the DNC knows she's more electable against McCain. Most Hillary supporters will NOT vote for Obama,,,he isn't intelligent, experienced, or has the integrity that Hillary has to run this country. It would be sad to see him as nominee. It is hilarious that someone said Obama is so much like Bill Clinton….WRONG…Bill is a Rhode scholar. There is NO comparison!

Yes, we understand that you want us to hand this to HRC to satisfy you, even though you're a minority. Guess what? We won't. Obama is in it, we're not going away, he's winning it. I'm sorry you're disappointed, but we won't let your sour grapes ruin the event of a lifetime.

Something tells me that isn't going to be enough for Hillary or her feminist friends.

Florida has already screwed up Two elections. (hanging chads lol). They have had eight George Bush years to get their act together. It may be best to just let this state gain a little more education on how the
electorial process works before they can be trusted to make any decisions regarding the country.

Yes We Can.

That woman is a real piece of work. makes me want to vomit. No wonder some of her supporters are jumping ship and joining THE CHANGE EXPRESS.

Superdelegates please show some balls and stop this nonsense now!!!
Sillary is so self centered and selfish that she will not stop until she has shattered the Democratic Party..

Please Superdelegates help your party and put this Idiot in her place!!!!!!!!!!

Tell her to go back to Arkansas where she belongs how soon we all forget how she changed the rules when she moved to New York so she could become Senator and feed her Lust for Power
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Count all the votes or forget democracy. Hillary is right and should get all the votes cast for her. Obama doesn't deserve to have votes that were not cast for him. It's the American way one person, one vote. No one should be able to twist that around to suit themselves. (like BO).

Great comment Woody

Hilary only cares about Florida and Michigan because that is the only way she even has a remote chance of stealing the election. If she can't win she is going to do her best to destroy the party, but its not going to work.

Obama 08, 12

Obama is a honest fair politician. He will do the right thing when it comes to florida and michigan.

Obama 2008-2017

No campaigning in the states and not even having his name on one ballot, and many Obama voters staying home knowing that their votes wouldn't be counted (as they were forewarned). . . .

It isn't about Hillary, you know. He wants to give a voice to those who DID come out to vote in Michigan and Florida. Because while it may not feel fair to them, it certainly can't feel fair to him, either. And, in many ways, he was also disenfranchised by those processes. So, he can relate.

Let us review:
All parties knew the penalty before the primaries
all parities agreed to the punishment and consequences (including Hillary)
now that her best chance depends on the votes of 2 states where not all candidates were on the ticket, she is demanding them to be counted exactly as voted (Obama getting 'undecided' vote in MI).
How is this fair? Really, how is this fair?

The good news is that it doesn't matter. Hillary is going to lose the nomination and she is being a sore loser. She is splitting the party with this racism and sexism crap. She may have a political career in the northeast US after this, but she has certainly lost her fame in the rest of America. I was a huge Clinton fan but am sick to my stomach of what she has done during this election. What a mess she has made for the party…..they (I) will never support her again.

Obama is willing to compromise a better than 50/50 split w/ Hillary. What's Hillary's offer going to be? She'll offer him the VP spot?

I don't see any resolution here. One side compromises, the other cannot come to grips that the nomination slipped thru her fingers. And the Democratic Party goes down in flames. Thanks a bunch, Hillary.

…Now can all the Hillaryiates stop making this Obama's fault, when they should look to the DNC and FL, MI state reps.

As a female, I was torn between voting for Barack and voting for Hillary. But as this race has gone on, Hillary has disappointed me. She thought that she deserved the Presidency just because her last name was Clinton. I give her all the credit with seeing the process thru, but when she starts using the "new math" and including 2 states that disregarded the primary rules, then she is no longer a role model. She has just proven, that nobody bows out gracefully. You stay in the race when the chips are down and do whatever you have to, to make sure you win. I for one don't want to see her on the ticket in any capacity. If Sen. Clinton persuades superdelegates to play her type of campaign, that I will for the first time in 30 years, NOT VOTE.

The nation cannot afford not to wake up from this Clintonian nightmare.

I hoped Hillary goes all the way to the convention to screw both of these fools over! They both suck and both McCain and Obama would be disaster for the U.S.!

Be careful, Barry – its a trap !

Hillary sees this as the beginning of the process, not the end. Once FL and MI get seated, she will rile up her supporters by: 1) moving the goalposts (2210 instead of 2026 delegated for the nomination), 2)counting the popular vote in FL and MI (even though Obama was not on the ballot) but not in caucus states, and 3) using that as a basis to claim she got screwed by the "party" if Obama is the nominee because she got the popular vote.

This will make her supporters LESS likely to support Obama in the Fall, not more likely.

Mission accomplished. He'll lose to McCain and she'll run in 2012.

I don't agree with the "Give the ball to the bully, this way she will stop bullying us", even if it is half ball….

On the old times she would be consider a very bad person for not keeping her word (she agreed with all the rules beforehand), but in our cheating world it seems to be an option…..

That is why we are getting in so much trouble…..

Did anyone who is an Obama fan hear or read anything about the internal memo distributed by the Obama campaign after the New Hampshire primaries in which his followers were urged to take any
comments by the Clinton's and push it as a racist statement and
push that spin on the media and in other words hype it up. This
guy Obama has a reputation as a back stabber from way back and
he does it all with that big smile all the time saying up yours and just
wait until the country gets a load of where the money trail from his
slum landlord friend goes to during the general election. The guy
is dirty politics personified.

I AM AN OBAMA SUPPORTER
BUT IM GETTING A BIT TIRED OF THIS DEMOCRATIC RACE
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

The people have a right to have their voices heard – Obama is not the gift giver. Every other state has had their vote count – normally – which is the way it is supposed to be. She is not stealing anything you idiots. Also, she has the popular vote, not YOUR SWEETIE.

I hope she does get the nomination – she would have worked hard for it and earned it – more than I can say for Obama.

"Oh, now that he wants their money he's getting more cooperative. What a guy!! Please Florida & Michigan don't give him any credit, he's the one who wouldn't allow your vote way back when." – Sharon

Interesting theory, Sharon. Yes, Obama single-handedly blocked people from Michigan and Florida from voting in a primary! It was not, after all, agreed to by all the democratic candidates (including Hillary). It was not, after all, legislatures in each state that refused the recount a few months ago.

I love the Clinton people's talk of "disenfranchisement." First of all, a party primary vote is not an election, and has nothing to do with enfranchisement (otherwise, you could say that Republicans were disenfranchised for not being allowed to vote for Democrats).

Yes, Hillary is truly a crusader for voting rights, a tireless defender of the disenfranchised (puke!)

I believe Obama will let Hillary have the wins in Michigan and Florida. He most likely will agree to a compromise that lets her get a little more than 50% of the delegates. The Michigan and Florida delegations will be seated. By agreeing to a compromise, Obama will not agree to let Clinton use especially the Michigan popular vote to further her false statement that she is leading in the popular vote. The votes in Michigan and Florida should not be allowed to count as part of the popular vote.

Some form of punishment needs to happen. I believe Florida and Michigan elected officials were reckless and stupid. There should be consequences for not following the rules!!!!

Shane May 21st, 2008 6:36 pm ET

WHY NOT ALL THE WAY? THEY VOTED AND THEY ALL ARE PART OF THE USA NOT HALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because if a state (not the voters) breaks the rules, then we can't just turn our head like they didn't. Remember CLinton agreed to these rules too, genius…

every vote must be counted, period.

I will NEVER vote for Obama…

I was a Democrat my whole life, I have now changed to Independent… The Democratic party should be ashamed of how they have treated us…

Clinton 2008!!!

Obama is so arrogant and he is trying to hoodwink the voters in Michigan and Florida. He never acknowledged trying to seat the delegates and he had the nerve to go and campaign in Florida. I think Hillary is the best person for this job and she should be the Dems nominee. He is talking to the voters about change and at the same time he is just being arrogant and he has no respect for Mrs. Clinton. The superdelegates who switched from Hillary to Obama and his supporters are ruining the Democratic Party. Howard Dean and the rest of the superdelegates know that Hillary has won the most important swing states for the general election. They need to do what is right and nominate Clinton as the party nominee. Oh and by the way, I will not vote for Obama in the fall. When I go to the booth to vote, I will skip over his name and vote in the rest of the elections.

Hillary Clinton 08

Obama is such a stand up guy! He looks more and more experienced and presidential each day. He is truly showing the spirit of compromise. He appears to be the bigger person in this issue. So many people missed the opportunity to vote for Obama and Edwards as they were told that their vote wouldn't count. I hope that Edwards stand behind Obama on this point as this is an issue that needs correcting immediately.

Ok .. Wait… which front is her augment now? Is she arguing that she has the popular vote and deserves the nomination? Or she has the most of the total delegate count (regardless of the party rules) and deserves to be nominated?
All well meaning Democrats and super delegates for that matter should show that they are Democrats first and will not let our party be reduced to ridicule by anyone…I mean NO ONE before casting their vote for someone who is more that willing to totally ignore the party's rule (to its detriment) to achieve her own political ambitions.

If the shoe was on the other foot and it was Obama that was trailing in the delegate count and was saying and doing anything he could to get the delegates in Florida and Michigan seated, couldn't you just hear Hillary saying something like "Oh sure, my opponent agreed to not count the delegates or campaign in those states if they held their primaries early, but now that he's behind he wants to change the rules!" ??

Maybe a re-vote is necessary. But I have a feeling that if there was one, Obama would garner a lot more delegates this time around than he would have in January. Hillary might want to re-think this, but we all know she won't. She'll keep on fighting even after Obama gets past the 2,026 mark.

Go Obama !!

You Hillary supports are PATHETIC!!!!! You don't have a clue. Idiots!

"…simply on the basis of the rules."

Well, that's big of him. ( : -P)

Clinton will look horrible if she is unwilling to compromise on anything with MI and FL after all of this talk she has been doing about counting their votes. What about the votes of those that stayed home because they knew it wasn't going to count and those who could not vote for Obama in MI because his name was not on the ballot. If Clinton refuses to give Obama a single delegate in MI, I hope her supporters start to open their eyes and see that she really doesn't want every vote to count, just the ones for her. In her popular vote count that she refers to, she makes sure to discount 4 states! How is that counting every vote?

Would Hillary be asking MI and FL votes to be counted if she was winning right now? I think not.

At this rate, it'll be October and the Democrats will still be trying to determine who the candidate will be, effectively giving the election to the Republicans.

Shane, don't be so shortsighted. Or probably you don't know the word RULES. Voters in FL,MI voted knowing full well that they won't be counted towards delegates.

Were they spineless not to address that with their state party bosses. Why cry now. Just be grateful that DNC and Obama are trying to accomodate in some way.

Counting them 'AS IS' is BS…Not gonna happen..Stop dreaming and though HRC knows that she's just demanding so, so that she has a case (false) to stay in the race.. Belony !!

YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK! FLORIDA AND MICH. WERE TOLD THEIR DEL. WOULDN'T COUNT AND THEY STILL WENT AND VOTED. GOSH NOW YOU PEOPLE WANT TO BEND THE RULES. THAT IS NOT THE DEM. WAY MY FRIENDS. HIL KNOWS THAT BY COUNTING THOSE 2 STATES IS THE ONLY WAY SHE CAN WIN.

Senator Clinton is right; we all know her baggage and, that is why she can't win.

This election, P.T. Barnum is wrong. There isn't a fool born every day.

Who wants another liar like President Bush for Commander-in-chief.

It's astonishing that HRC wants all votes to count equally, but according to her "new metric", caucus votes would not be counted. Amazing!

American '08

So he gains even though he was NOT someone that the state supported?

You know, if we are stupid enough to give this guy the nomination then we deserve the pain that we are going to experience for the next four year because it will be either four more years of Republicans or four years of speeches diverting us from all of the mistakes that will be made…

He has NO experience people…

Hillary Knows, she's the right one for the job. She can't give up. Obama just sounds like a Hallmark Card. Hillary has more substance.

THIS IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION. OBAMA IS NOT HONEST AND KARMA IS COMMING FOR THIS ARROGANT EGO OF HIS. HILLARY SUPPORTERS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO TRIED TO DISENFRANCHISE MILLIONS OF VOTERS AND NOW HE'S PLAYING NICE SO HE CAN BAMBOOZIE CLINTON SUPPORTERS, EXCEPT NOW WE KNOW WHO HE IS, A HYPPOCRITE. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE.

It is good the Obama Team is willing to compromise, however, they should not be pressured into something that will hurt Senator Obama. Who is to know what would have happened if Sen Obama had campaigned in FL & MI. .

Clinton is waiting for a chance, that chance is if Obama sleep with a lady rather than his wife, then and only then, she will win.

The longer Clinton fights to stay in, the more she hurts the Dems and her chances in 2012, if she ever had a chance. She looks out for herself and no one else. Can't voters see through her phoney desperation? Go away, Hillary!

Look! The reason President Bush won a second term in the White House is because American people were afraid to put a new President into office during the war. President Bush is now talking about bombing Iran. This is a way to scare the American people into leaving a Republican in office. Hillary and Obama need to come together or neither one will become president. People are afraid to change presidents during a war, watch and see if the Bush administration don't try this again to hand the election to McCain because " he is experienced."

This is why the youth are voting for Obama so overwhelmingly because Clinton will do anything to win. Florida and Michigan both knew the consequences of their actions before they decided not to abide by the rules. Furthermore, the ones that are pushing for the Florida and Michigan vote to count, what example are you setting for the youth of America. You are telling the youth that it is OK to break the rules if it is to your advantage. The youth of this nation are smarter than most adults realize. They (the youth) can tell when you are being hypocritical, or truthful. The youth of America seems to be more honest than the adults. The adults can learn from the youth and stick to what was established and agreed to before hand. If you show the youth how to circumvent the rules and laws than you cannot become angry when they (the youth) do so because they are only learning from the adults’ example.

I can't believe this is even an issue, they both agreed the results wouldn't count… now she is in dire need of delegates and she demands they do count? I am from Florida and I did not bother to vote because I was told it wouldn't count. My parents did the same thing. To treat this the same as other primarys is an insult to everyone across America.

to the fools who still think that Obama controls Florida and Michigan seating delegation let's go over some facts

Michigan and Florida were told last year they they would have their delegates stripped if they moved their primaries before Feb 5th

They did and their delegates were stripped

what's important is two things

Inside the state many people that would have voted didn't because it didn't count.

second and most importantly the candidates pledged not to campaign
there.

why to cury favor with Iowa and New Hampshire

do you think Hillary would have one New Hampshire if they knew she was go back on her word.

Seat the delegation and give them half a vote for breaking the rules

Michigan should use the 69-59 comprimise that Michigan is requesting.

and now that Edwards has endorsed Obama there should be a 51% -49% Clinton's favor adding Edwards and Obama's return

If Florida and Michigan had decided to formally have a revote Obama would have had no choice but to participate – in his defense that would
cost another 25mm for him to mount campaign there and not change the results.

Did anyone think that the white woman doesn't want to concede to a person of color? Could it be that she is just as racist as some of her followers?

Hilary’s behavior is adolescent. She should call her losses, help the Party, and run again in 2012.

Trust me, if she was winning she would not have any regards to including FL and MI. And for those of you wondering, yes, Obama would drop out. Look how far he’s been leaning to accommodate her tired campaign: willing to help settle her debts if he’s nominated, come to an agreement regarding FL and MI.

Look, she’s a big cry baby and we don’t need some one of the demenor as presdient. Bush asked the folks in ME for gas; well she would CRY for it.

OBAMA 2008!!!!

I just want Hillary to disappear.

Clinton wants to win by any means necessary. Any work towards a solution that FL and MI created by the way by not following the rules, is Clinton's realization that she's done. She still has bills to pay and people to alienate.

"She is jeopardizing Roe v Wade" – No She is not doing anything, the Obama supporters are turning Hillary Supporters away its as simple as that, I'm not going to vote McCane though.. I going to vote Nader or write in Hillary, just never Obama!

(And what is funny is my family that has voted for dems for there entire life is going to do the same thing… I would never think my parents would do this…)

Hillary, McCane or Nader… just Never Obama

i thought hillary said she is a fighter now she is winning and all this election she was acting like a man and now with florida she is winning do you think she can run the white with the she is i dont think because the problem is they are a lot of different hillary on her last nignt after kentucky she was calm and different and today she is this person you dont know i dont think she will do well in the white house, i am a women and i would love a women president but not this one thank god she doesnt have enough delegates i am telling the truth she not the same person all the time, i think this is nobodys fault its the rules i mean if we look at it that means edward, dodd, richardson have to comeback because they were also on the ballots come on lets just use common sense now she is letting down all the women who thought she was a fighter by winning over florida get over it and be a men stop wining

Sharon in Minnesota,
Its Hillary that is in debt, not Obama.
He has plenty of money.
Why don't you leave the dark side and come into the light.
It feels great and you sound so angry and unhappy.

also, she is only going to net a couple of delagates anyways, becasue Sen. Edwards is going to throw his support to Sen. Obama. Check mate. He still wins.

I am done with this woman. I have been on her side from day one and as a woman I am ashamed. I live in FL and we were told our votes were not going to count that why I did not vote. I know other did but there were issues on that people needed to address. I have raised money for this woman and phone banked for her but this is going too far and too long. I will be the first to say I had an issue with having a Black president but I have to come out of the dark ages. I am a middle aged white woman who will be voting for Obama come Nov. This is no longer about me but it's for my children and grand children.

YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL

Obama should not give any thing to sen. Clinton. Obama and sen. Clinton both agrred to abide by the rule set by DNC. Why she wants to change the rule now. This is the issue of trust, yesterday she agrred and accepted the rules now she is against. How some one can trust her,

Even with florida and michigan counted the way they were .obama is still the winner is what john king said.before oregon and kentucky she would nead 6 out of 10 delegates for rest of contests and with him winning oregon and soon montana and south dakota more then likely she won't be able to win anyway

Axelrod is flip flopping just like his candidate Barack.
Count the votes in FL & MI bottom line..
"Were willing to go halfway" What is that? Be a man ans stop changing your views every 5 minutes to benefit your campaign.

Go Hillary, if not Hillary Go McCain

To every super delegate of the Democratic Party,

Please think long and hard about the simple choice you now have to make:

1) Choose to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Party’s nominee and watch her become the first woman to be elected President of the United States.

or

2) Choose to endorse Barack Obama and watch the first African American nominee of the Democratic Party lose in the general election.

Hillary Clinton will win against John McCain in the states that the Democratic Party needs to win in order to reach 270 electoral votes in the general election.

Obama won’t.

It’s that simple.

Hillary Clinton has been the best candidate in this long primary election, is by far more competent to run against the Republicans in the general election, and is infinitely more qualified to be President of the United States than is Barack Obama.

Endorsing Barack Obama, a relatively unknown candidate with a thin resume who has lost nearly every large state and swing state to Hillary Clinton in the primaries by large margins, is a huge gamble at best.

Please don’t gamble with our futures.

HILLARY CLINTON ’08

Wow I don't think anything can satisfy some people, they are just so full of hate. I feel sorry for anyone with that much hate for one person because of the color of their skin. Can't we for once just put our differences aside for the betterment of our country and our future generations, because at the end of the day that is what is important showing our children and grandchildren that we all count and matter in this great nation.

Sharon from Minnesota:

You really should read up on current events before saying something that makes you look uneducated. Obama has no control over whether FL or MI delegates get counted. Hillary agreed to not seat the delegates way back when she thought she was a shoe-in for the nomination. Now grow up.

This could have been a wonderful and uplifting process for women. Instead, with her disgusting flip-flopping and deceptive tactics, Hillary is giving women everywhere an AWFUL name. How is she a role model for our daughters?

Hillary won't rest until she wins. If she gets Florida and Michigan she'll want something else because those two states aren't enough to cement her nomination.

This campaign is becoming exhausting… who knows what HIllary will come up with next.

Shane, because the rules were broken!!! Is Obama supposed to be held responsible for Floraida and Michigan breaking the DNC's rules?

Grow up Clinton supporters! It's over.

Obama has played by the rules the entire time.

Clinton has sought to change the rules whenever it suits her personally.

It says all you need to know.

WHY ARE YOU SCARED SO MUCH TO GO ALL THE WAY. FEAR FACTOR?

No Sir! Rules are Rules… no one is above the law, but perhaps 'Clinton' think they are above all rules and regulations. They can say and they can do whatever pleases them.

Obama and Obama's team should not give in anything for no one… strictly follow DNC guidelines and accept the outcome of 'DNC' decisions, PERIOD.

A.M. Saqib
Houston, Texas

Obama already won.

Obama/Sebelius '08

Both Clinton and Obama agreed last year that these votes would not count. The voters in both states knew that they wouldn't count. Stop it already! Clearly Hillary needs a time out because she's not getting her way. She's throwing herself on the floor, kicking, screaming, and having a temper tantrum!

To Shane:

The GOP cut these states delagtes in half. WHy isn't anyone complaing about that. Sen. Obama is being more than Generous about this. He could say they broke the rules, let them take this matter up with their elected officals.

Also, Hiliary signd contract, and if she fights to overturn those votes in FL. Somebody should sue the S**T out of here for not up holding to that agreement

It appears experience is not the best teacher. Otherwise, it would seem experienced politicians would know that bashing your front runner hurts the party.

I hope the Clinton response to the consideration is to stop bashing Obama.

Be careful, Barack. She is sneaky and dirty. If you give an inch….

Now that she's through with the "blue collar Americans" in the states that had the most of "them", she's trying to stir up sexism charges. Well, I think she has been exposed to sexism only to the point that lying, cheating, stealing, and taking advantage of people are things that only women do.

She's ruined forever. She never win another election and she knows it. Her silly little "yes" men/women in congress had better read the tea leaves before she rubs off on their careers. Don't they know that after she divides the party, their opponents will point to their affiliation with clinton? Wise up folks.

The only fair way to solve the issue would be to have a revote and I am not altogether sure that Hillary Clinton would like the results. Of course she wants for the outcome of the "sham" primaries to stick as they are now because it benefits her especially with Obama's name off the ballot. Although, she should take into consideration that a 55% win in Michigan WITHOUT Obama and Edwards names on the ballot is hardly a win! Shame on her and her supporters. They just want to run this election and this country into the ground!

No Compromose!!!!!!!!!!!

1) 1/3 of the delegates should not be seated (punishing teh states for not following party rules)
2) 1/3 of the delegates should be seated based on the voting that took place
3) 1/3 of the delegates should be given to each candidate 50% each

There is an SNL skit in the making here…

During Obama's or McCain's inauguration day speech, Hillary will push the president elect out of the way, take the microphone, and say the following:

"I'm not giving up! If you count all of the states where I won the democratic primary, I have the most votes. It doesn't matter that Obama/McCain was elected in the general election, I'm the best person to run this country… and besides, I already wrote a book about myself being in charge!"

She will sue the DNC, 'on behalf of the voters'…not for herself. And all this talk of sexism she's bared the brunt of? Hank Aaron received daily death threats when he came close to being the Home Run King, breaking a white man's record. What do you think the potential, first President of color has endured?

Jack Hillary is going to put McCain in office. It just amazes me that when she thought she had it , all the rules were just fine. Now, that she is beat by the rules, fair, she want to change them. Now, let me give the Demo Party something to think about, don’t worry about the blue collar workers that she says will not vote for Obama. Let me give you the real facts. If the Demo Party overrules the will of the people all of us, the millions that voted for Obama, and this includes the young, Africian-American and everyone else. You talk about a slap in the face and vote didn’t count. For you Clinton voters, you got beat fair and square. All you are doing is destroying the Party and be asured that John McCain will be the next President. I didn’t vote for Hillary but if she beats Obama in a fair contest, follows the rules ,you will beat I would vote for her. So here it is, if Hillary voters that got beat fair & square, and can not support Obama because he won by following the rules, then ya’ll have succeeded and destroyed the Demo Party and John will be the next President. Sad situation isn’t it!???!!!

They both agreed to these rules long ago.

By the way, the vote should NOT be counted as is. I didn't even go out and vote, knowing mine wouldn't count anyway. So how is it fair to just count the votes as is? Many people probably stayed in that day and never voted. The existing results are invalid.

Hillary is underhanded and I'm not trusting this at all. The DNC made the rules and now Clinton is trying to break them. Let them just revote and get it over with. Have Hillary pay for it – oh wait – she's broke!!!

DGH,

"I'm so tired of Obama's campaign trying to sound moderate, inclusionary and reasonable when they are constantly attacking Clinton backhandedly or just without actual 'heat' in the message."

WELCOME TO POLITICS AND GOVERNMENT!!! At least, Obama is doing it professionally while McCain and Clinton continue to behave like children.

Why give in to Hillary? The only thing wrong and if she was a honest person she would admit it. she cannot accept the fact that a black man defeated her. She will do whatever she can to keep him out of the White House. I would not give in to her. She knew what would happen if they didn't obey the rules.

Some of you Billary supporters are so PATHETIC!

They will lie, cheat and steal there way into the Whitehouse.

They are well dressed THUGS!

McCain in 08′

Wow, give the poor woman a little more credit, I think she is smarter than that. She is staying in it not because of ego, money, or entitlement, but she really feels an obligation to her supporters. If she quits she will always be viewed by her supporters as a person that quit on them when they were counting on her to hang tough and they will never support her again. She wants to be bailed out and contrary to what she is leading the media to believe, she wants nothing more than to have the super delegates back Obama so she will have a good reason (excuse) for dropping out or the race.

For Anyone Here- There have been countless people on here saying obama has ridiculed clinton and made sexist comments directed toward her. I have yet to hear any specific comment he has made.

Can anyone name one?

Ok America, it's time to stand up. Does anyone really want a shrieking, kicking, screaimng, bipolar, delusional woman for President? If not I urge you to go on the DNC's website and let them know it. Otherwise she will kick and scream her way into something in Obama's administration.

Think about it. All the Hillary bloggers absolutely cannot stand Obama BUT they want Hilldog to be his VP. They want her to WORK FOR HIM? I don't think so…they want her to stab him in the back at every twist and turn and Bill will be running interference all the way.

I just want democracy to work and that doesn't include changing the rules after the game starts.

I am a republican and I am voting for Ron Paul, but I love how the HIllary Clinton fanactics are so determined to get their way that they will bash Obama on this and not vote for him. Wake up!!! Hillary did not care that Michigan and Florida would not be counted, because she signed the agreement too. Now all the sudden, because it benefits her she is all the sudden worried about people's votes counting. Thats bull and everyone knows it. It was the DNC who was responsible, and what would you have them do? If they just allowed everyone to do what they wanted the process would not be fair. Sorry!!

I think by clutching at the straws desperately Clinton campaign is only prolonging the inevitable. If she is really serious about working for American people, she can still do lot of good work by taking a senior position in Obama administration. I also think after such a bitter and vitriolic campaign, she should not seek the VP position.

It would be absolute travesty of justice if somehow she is able to steal the nomination by her lopsided arguments based on weird calculations. If that happens, common people will lose faith in democracy and the whole political process.

Please do not forget !!!!! Adam & Eve Story…. Do not accept the Apple.

Raz

The first FEMALE president of the United States

Michelle Obama

obama is a nobody. always has been and always will be. everyone else has put him where he is. he has done nothing to earn it. he will never be the legal president of the United States. obama has not won anything. he has won nothing. everything has been given to him as long as he plays his role. he will be unmasked.

Dont go even quarter the way Mr. Obama.
Hillary cheated on all her running mates and sneaked into MI and FL.
The only real solution to this problem is to re-do the election in these 2 states (or) dont count them
This is B.S. if she wants to include MI, where she was the only one playing the match..(still managed only 50%).
Go Home Hillary

This is really generous of Obama – but I doubt Hillary will accept it. She's so intent on getting all or nothing (she counts 0 for Obama in Michigan). Remember that SHE TURNED DOWN a similar offer in MI go split the difference. It would be great if they could reach an agreement on this, Obama still wins, and we can finally be done with this primary season.
O '08

Please superdelegates come on, hurry up and vote for Obama so he can win this primary before the witch pull some kind of trick out of her bag. She has already warning everbody that she looking for a three pointer at the end of this game……

DGH,

"I'm so tired of Obama's campaign trying to sound moderate, inclusionary and reasonable when they are constantly attacking Clinton backhandedly or just without actual 'heat' in the message."

WELCOME TO POLITICS AND GOVERNMENT!!! At least Obama is doing it professionally, while mccain and clinton continue to act like children.

Sharon in Minnesota:

Obama raked in 31million in April, more than any one else out there. He doesn't need money from Florida or Michigan to win, though I suspect he has donors in both locations. I donated twice that month and again in May. Everytime I read one of your ridiculous posts, I go make another donation to Obama's campaign – just to be sure people like you don't run our country.

I've seen your posts every day and they are all always mean, rude, racist and offensive.

Go ahead and vote for McCain…that will fix it, eh ladies? You going to teach Obama a lesson? Blame the MEDIA for sniper gate? Gaurentee a right wing Supreme Court for the next 40 years?

GET OVER YOURSELVES

What about all the voters who did not vote in these states because of the rules which said that their votes would not count?

Hill-Billy is such a cheater.

Dean should not give in to her and Florida/Michigan strong arming. Stand strong.

Shane:

The reason they are not going to seat them all is because not all votes were cast because many voters did not vote because they were told they would not count. Also, in an effort to follow the rules, Obama's name was not on the ballot so his voters did not get to vote for him so therefore, they will be disenfranchised if you only count the votes for HIllary.

I am not sure why you are not getting this but if I have to keep posting this for you to understand that, I will.

It's most likely the Clinton campaign that's keeping anything from happening because the simple fact is, even if the delegates are seated from the results in FL and MI, Obama still will be ahead in delegates. And to keep this non-issue as an "issue" is just a political smoke screen.

Seriously some Clinton supporters need to go back and learn a little math… some simple addition, subtraction, and an understanding of percentages will show them that Hillary has no chance. Only way she could win is by getting an unrealistic amount of super delegates and pledged delegates and at this point in the race, it won't happen. Delegate-wise FL and MI will not make a difference now. There's been article after article with analysis of this, pointing it out… but again I'm sure people will accuse mathematics of being baised for Obama…

Thank God it is almost going to be OVER! In order to negotiate with the Clinton camp I would only cede (the dubious) vote in Florida where all the names were on the ballot. Michigan should go 50-50 and nothing more. PLEASE Idaho, Montana, Puerto Rico, and South Dakota we look forward to hearing from you and ask you to do the right thing now. We just did in Oregon and we need you to finish this off!

Fabulous speech by Clinton today. She needs to give it her all and get tough. Don't fall for all the accusations and intimidation from the DNC and Obama supporters. It's all a big act. Nothing to lose now, so go for it.

Obama we want all the votes counted in Florida and Michigan.

Hillary Clinton wants one thing and one thing only; that is the Presidency.

It does not matter the math, delegates or votes cast. She is hell on creating history for herself and it does not matter how she gets there.

If Barack Obama gives her all his delegates; she'll still say she won fear and square.

The bottom line is she intends to win the nomination even if she loose the Presidency.

I know one thing at this point; if she gets the nomination as the math states right now; she will loose in a landslide in November because most young people, educated people and all the black voters who back her husband will stay home. I for one will not vote for McSame but will not vote at all.
Bank on that.

Florida already screwed up Two elections. (hanging chads lol). They have had eight George Bush years to get their act together. It may be best to just let this state sit out of the election until they gain a little more education on how the electorial process works before we can trust them to make any decisions regarding the country. Let's hope that a good education is a staple in this state.

Yes We Can.

That's because Obama is 60 delegates away from getting the nomination, he doesn't care. with SDs and Florida, he will get the nomination right there!

Great for the people of Florida, Michigan and the Senator Clinton supporters. So, when the finally tally is done of the pledged delegates, votes, etc. – then we will have a nominee. I hope then that the Democratic party can come together and take care of the Republicans.

Does anyone think for a second that Hillary would push so hard to have ALL the delegate from FL and MI counted, if it didn't just happen to benefit her? I admire her fighting strength – but wow, it would be great if she fought so hard for something that wasn't so blatantly for her own personal gain. I hope she agrees to Obama's generous offer, and we can finally get this primary season over with.
O '08

I do not trust Hillary At All! She agreed to the rules, now she wants the DNC to change the rules just to accomodate her. WHY should Obama have to do this? He played by the rules only to hear now he has to compromise his victory to keep Hillary happy. Doesn't sound good to me. I just hope DNC does what is RIGHT & FAIR. If not, well, I guess the American people will see what we will see.

The reason that they will not concede all delegates is because she agreed to not have them seated just like obama. Matter of fact they both signed a agreement not to have them seated, but now that she is losing she is making sound like Obama is cheating or something. If you possibly think that michigan should count it is ludicrious. My solution is florida should be seated as is, but Obama gets the 40 percent of uncommited votes in Michigan while she gets 55. It is only fair being that both primaries should not count. I guess I can get out of contractual agreements too if I am in the government.

I don't get it!, what is so special about Hillary Clinton. She goes into Florida and Michigan knowing full well that the votes won't count, but now she wants to make them count because she thinks the will help her win. Can you image the things that will happen if she gets into the White House! Can you say SPOILED BRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is not Obama problem. Why should he concede to her. That is what she is counting on. Watch your back Obama. She has proven she is not to be trusted.

Biff Biffington!!! Griff, told you long ago…. There is no Party…
The Democrat's have destroyed that Label…. Just Hillary and the Women who believe in her…..

No matter how magnanimous Obama is with this, Hillary won't agree unless it somehow makes it impossible for either to actually reach the magic number and win. That's the point – tie it up so that she can then argue that she should be the winner.

The whole argument that somehow not counting these states when they knowingly defied the DNC and all candidates agreed to the rules is somehow "disenfranchisement" is ludicrous. This is a PRIMARY and not the GENERAL election, where everyone is entitled to vote. If everyone were entitled to vote in primaries (or in a caucus) then Republicans everywhere could vote in Democratic primaries and vice versa. That's not the case, though in some states, you can. So no one is disenfranchised and they WILL be able to vote in November.

It should be 50/50 and seat all the delegates. The popular vote argument that HRC makes is also specious — we don't elect the President by popular vote. The electoral college is what we use, however lame it is. Of course, we could change the rules, but NOT in the middle of a contest, Hillary.

Isn't that the lesson we all learn when we are 5 years old?

I look forward to President Obama's term and a great new era for the USA.

YES WE CAN.

FL: 60% to Hillary and 40% to Obama
MI: 80% to Hillary and 20% to Obama

That works for me!

Silly Obama, you know Hillary and Hillary alone won both of those states and deserves all of the votes and all of the delegates. You know you don't deserve ANY, because silly you, you took your name off in Michigan. You know she was tired when she signed that pledge and it was just a mis-speak when she said they wouldn't count. Silly you!

Show her door immediately.

Obama – Don't concede more than 50 / 50 split. You can win MI and with Edwards support, you would come close to 50% vote

A 50 – 50 split is only fair.

Don't yield her 1 delegate. She does not deserve

Also, don't be soft on her. Don't start praising her. She is a Fox/Jackel and there is no need to be graceful to such SHAMELESS person.

Go aggressive and beat her up badly. Crucify her. May she be asked to quit her SENATE seat too. She is a disgrace to womanhood and the NY senate seat

My problem with Hillary is that she does not want to recognize that she is dividing this party.

hillary doesnt want to meet half way– she wants 100% for her and 0% for Obama

Everybody needs to remember that:
1. A lot of people in Florida and Michigan DIDN'T VOTE. How can anybody think the primary was a real "vote"?

2. The DNC has to make sure that states don't up and decide to do this again 4 years from now. Life has consequences when you break the rules.

Emma from Florida

She signed the dotted line before the race started with MI and FL. DNC you need to set it straight and tell her to sit down and remind her of the contract. Why is she even getting floor time?
I do not want a president like her, nor see he anywhere near a ticket.

PS
Quit asking for Clinton to quit. She won't. Obama does NOT have the delegates to win, Neither does Clinton. She is in this race until the nominee is decided…AS OBAMA WOULD BE IF CLINTON LED.

No one asked Obama to quit after Super Tuesday….But he should BE GRACEFUL and quit now. He is NOT the candidate to win in November.

My goodness. What does she want ? she wouldn't even win if it's all given to her. I mean c'mon this race is over ! Why is she putting herself so low ?

WHY WON'T OBAMA COUNT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN??!!

Oh wait, he is. It's the DNC that's keeping the delegates from counting. Who knew? Oh, that's right, everyone knew except the Hillary supporters.

DGH, plz take your meds. Is there anything he could have said that would satisfy you?

Clinton has her followers so wound up, they forget we're all democrats. She is jeopardizing Roe v Wade.

The seating is irrelevant because Obama has won the delegate race.

The question is, what does Clinton hope to gain by making this an issue?

Oh, now that he wants their money he's getting more cooperative. What a guy!! Please Florida & Michigan don't give him any credit, he's the one who wouldn't allow your vote way back when.

They're not going to give the nomination to Clinton. They are aware that it would destroy the party.

The delegates will be seated, Obama will still be in the lead (even with Florida and Michigan fully counting) in delegates. The RECORDED popular vote will be in Clinton's favor, but that is because they don't take a tally on the caucus state votes, which Obama won by large margins.

Either way, by the rules, Obama will be the nominee. Clinton endorses him, and the general (officially) begins.

All Democrats should then fall in line behind the nominee, because a vote for McCain is harmful to women's rights, our armed forces, our economy, and our security. Any self-proclaimed Democrat that votes for McCain has lost touch with reality and is doing so for selfish, ignorant reasons.

Democrats '08. Don't blow this.

Can someone please tell me why everyone is afraid of the Clintons? How is it she can say all the garbage she is saying and get all this free press when all she is doing is making up lies everyday?

If this table was reversed, I believe Obama would have gotten out of the race with dignity. She can't for the life of her and now she is saying she will take this to the convention.

Well, let me share a word for you Hillary Clinton….
1) if you steal this election, we will not vote for you either.
2) if you cost Obama the election in the fall so that you can run again in 2012, we will not vote for you then either.

You have a major problem with the black vote despite the fact that none of the pundits are addressing the issue.

AND FOR THE RECORD, OBAMA owes you NOTHING. NO VP, No nothing. The people who support you who say they will not vote for Obama were never going to vote for them in the first place.

SMart move obama…. I love u

Obama followed the rules and Hillary didn't. And all she does is whine because it's not in her favor anymore. Hillary you really need to exit out of the race and retire. You're making a fool out of yourself and out of our country. The whole world is watching and laughing at you, not with you.

This is the high road?

Please.

The Obama campaign knows that they're in trouble in MI and FL…and this disingenuous effort at compromise will be seen for what it is.

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But I'm 'Number One'….. You're number Zero!!! Obama… Zero!!!
You blew it in you're own State…. Then Iowa??? Dream again next year… But Why???? But Why??? You know…… Good for Humble Life style…. You don't get what you want for Christmas…..

"We're willing to work to make sure that we can achieve a compromise" Lies and hypocracy.

That's preppy lawyer Obama speak for "I will stonewall and delay until it is too late". He tried that trick already. Is he really fooling people with that? Sounds like he fits in real nice in politics as it is! He was the "change" candidate, right?

Hillary hit a new low when she likened her struggle to have the votes counted to the struggle of AA to free themselves from slavery and of women to get the vote. Unbelievable.

Who does the Democratic Party think they are to make such stupid decisions. They sound like a bunch of teenagers. Of course, Florida and Michigan should have their delegates seated and all the primary votes counted. How dare this party make such an absurd rule.

Any compromise is a good compromise. It's better than not counting at all, which is what the rules say and what BOTH candidates agreed to, until Clinton needed the votes.

Obama's supposed "High Road" ONLY occurred once he felt Clinton would not catch him in delegates….that is NOT a high road…it is a LOW ROAD.

One more reason NOT to vote for Obama.

Now he is "Pandering" because he NEEDS MI AND FL to win….

FL & Michigan hopefully will vote for Hillary Clinton.

Let get this right both Clinton and Obama agree to the sets of rules
but of a sudden say is saying that Obama camp is the one standing in the way of a compromise on FLORIDA and MICHIGAN . When it was her saying that she should get all of the votes in FL. he should get none of the votes in MI. I have a Question ? if she was ahead and he was behind would she be fighting as hard to seat both states.

they should be split 50-50 or dont count them at all hillary just wont quit pandering like civil right s you have to be kiddiding she just set civil right s and women s right s back a 100 year s she would pander anyway she can to cheat

At this point it doesn't matter. Except for the fact that those states defiantly and willingly broke the rules. We should not consider those votes at all. Maybe a revote would be most appropriate, but even then, we would be ultimately giving those states what they originally broke the rules for…..a greater influence on the outcome of the nomination process than they deserved.

Once they settle on this she will find another issue to complain about.
That must be the campaign motto complain,cheat,lie and steal.

Once again Senator Clinton wants more than what is fair, she is offered it; and it is still not good enough. When do we say enough is enough?

I have lived in this country for the last 16 years and could not wait to become a citizen so I can vote for a democratic presidential candidate. Today, when I finally have a voice and support Senator Obama's bid for presidency I am shocked at the treatment he is receiving from the democratic party. While senator Clinton is picking up racist votes and openly plans to change the rules for choosing the presidential nominee the prominent democratic figures are just standing on sidelines letting senator Obama fight at the same time Senator McCain and the destructive campaign of Senator Clinton.
After 16 years of excitement and desire to become a democrat with a right to vote now that I am finally there I am becoming discouraged, disillusioned and disappointed with the democratic party.

COUNT OUR FLORIDA VOTES ASAP ! CARAJO !

GO HILLARY !

This campaign seems to impress me more each day. I must admit this is calculated politics but the intelligence of this campaign cannot be beat. Since MI and FL votes weren't completely fair push it out until every other state has had a chance to vote. This way supers will make their decision based on the complete fair votes. At this point adding MI and FL will not make much of a difference.

This is like watching the BAD NEWS BEARS…… just settle on a number – split the delegate on some algorthim and move on…

Bararck – put her on the ticket and then get a food tester for 8 years!!!

It won't be good enough. If you listen between the lines of her speeches and her surrogates…they are going to convention.

I read that Obama paid off Bill Richardson's campaign debt, i. e,
apprx 12 million, is this true?

Now I may be getting old but didn't Ms. Clinton, JUST LAST WEEK, refuse to accept a compromise in Michigan? One where she got a 10 delegate advantage? But I guess that was, in Clinton thought, Mr. Obama refusing to compromise and give her ALL the delegates because he followed the rules and, as REQUESTED by the DNC, removed his name from the ballot. It is called doing the honorable thing which explains why Ms. clinton does not understand why he did it.

Only good thing come June 3, when this has all been sorted out and the last SELECTION (these are NOT Constitutional elections folks but simply the parties way of deciding who will be the candidate hence no RIGHTS were taken if Fl and MI are not counted) is completed she will have lost. I do not expect the superdelegates to give Mr. obama the election until then, to do so would destroy the party by waiting they can show that he won fair and square even after the counted the (whining cheaters) of Florida and Michigan (the whining and cheating part does not apply to those who reside in those two states and followed the rules of the DNC those are the ones I feel have been really truely disenfranchised not the whining cheaters who voted)

Hillary is trying to take ALL of the delegates… This shows SMART voters her TRUE character (even though she AGREED they would NOT count when she did NOT NEED them)
Obama/Hagel ( I want Chuck Hagel to be VP)

This will not be good enough for Hillary. She needs the math to go exactly the way she spelled it out in her speech in Boca Raton today. A compromise is not going to get her the White House, so no, she will not be willing to budge from her ridiculous stand-point on Florida and Michigan.

well why is everyone else always giving in , and while she just takes and takes..

she is the one that broke the rules.. i know Obama wants to be fair, but what is her deal………

i can not stand this woman… she is cruella devil the worst in all of the fairy and scary tales…

she is so divisive…
and so racist, using fear, and other tactics,
I know that we must unify before November but please someone stand to this monster…………………..she does not care about anyone but her self, billy boo and her daughter and that is the only reason why she is still here, she is paving the road for the princess so that they can continue with the dynasty..

i am sick of the clintons, with etheir affairs, lies, and money..
and lies over all…………

Yes. Let's all bend low to the lowly.

Dammit! She signed a pledge agreeing that the FL and MI election would NOT count, and admitted it on Meet the Press in October!

That means, folks, no matter how bad the decision by the DNC…those were, and ARE, the freakin' RULES.

Now you've got her CHANGING the number from 2025 to 2211….when not TWO MONTHS ago she crowed that 2025 was the number they were shooting for before Super Tuesday.

Enough of this crap. Enough of the "new Clinton math" and "moving the goalposts" every time the end is near.

Superdelegates. Grow a pair, do what must be done, and lets get on with the business of changing this country already!

Give her Florida the way it was voted and split Michigan. Sound fair?

A few more historical references for your viewing pleasure:

1/9/08: Howard Wolfson: I guess one other thing I'd add is that, as you know, this is a race for delegates.

1/25/08: Howard Wolfson: And we have said since Iowa that this is a race for delegates.

2/1/08 "It's useful to win states, but states don't vote — delegates do," said Harold Ickes, who is heading up the delegate operation for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.

2/6/08 Wolfson again: And overall, we have a significant lead among delegates, overall, which, OBVIOUSLY, at the end of the day is what is going to positively determine which Democrat is our party's nominee

Just END this already!!!!!

Way to go Mr. Axelrod – just keep playing along!

Go Bam!

Well Hillary….ball is in your whiney court now. The math is sooooo NOT in your favor, that Obama can and will allow you to save face if you accept graciously.

Of course, if you insist on the bogus and irrellevant "popular vote" arguement which has NEVER been the basis of electing a Democratic nominee, then I hope the supers body slam you and show you the door in about 10 seconds.

Please, end this with dignity and with you and your husband's legacy in tact and not tatters. For once, do what is right for the party, not yourself.

Women for Obama

Game. Set. Match.

Obama takes the high road even when he doesn't need to take the high road. This was never Obama's problem, nor was it his fault, but now his campaign is doing what they can to provide validation to the voters of Michigan and Florida. And he will still win this primary… handily. Thank you, Barack. You are a politician that makes me proud to believe in the America of King, Lincoln, and Kennedy.

i do hope you know what you are doing
do not trust her

All I can say is watch out ladies and gentlemen, Sen Clinton is getting ready to steal the race. I feel something underhanded and foul in the air today, and it has to do with all this mess with FL and MI.

Hil and at least her supporters are going to want it all. But what about the people who stayed home because they were told it wasn't going to count? What about the number of uncommitted and those that voted for the other cantididates? Can we give those voted for the other candidates to Barack of those that have endorsed him?

It's almost over. Then we can get to the other part of this process. Beating McCan't.

I'm so tired of Obama's campaign trying to sound moderate, inclusionary and reasonable when they are constantly attacking Clinton backhandedly or just without actual 'heat' in the message. Just because someone says something with a smile, a casual, slow drawl, leaning back on a stool with his hands in his pockets, as if we're all buddies at a local barbeque, doesn't mean he's not attacking. Just the contrary. He's ridiculed Hillary, has sidestepped substantive issues and manages to follow in his idol Ronald Reagan's footsteps by being the second "teflon" Presidential candidate.

Congratulations Obama! You've just successfully pulled the wool over the American people's eyes. God help us over the next four years.

Hillary makes me sick !!
She agreed to the rules in the beginning. She's Pathetic !

If Hillary is anywhere on the ticket in November, I will vote for McCain.

Hillary has really shamed all women.

WHY NOT ALL THE WAY? THEY VOTED AND THEY ALL ARE PART OF THE USA NOT HALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, while I don't think he should, he is so gracious — Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve such a graceful manner from her opponent, though. She agreed to all rules and now as she is losing, she wants to change the rules. That's not acceptable!

It is funny that Obama, whom others criticize for his "inexperience," behaves in the most civilized and mature manner among all candidates after all. We need the most mature and respected person for our president, since the current one is not and he's destroyed our nation's image. That's why I am supporting Barack!

She's not gonna stop until either she is the nominee, or the party is in ruin.

you read it here first.