May 22, 2008
Posted: 03:35 PM ET

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Blitzer: Democrats are already starting to look past 2008.
Blitzer: Democrats are already starting to look past 2008.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Democratic presidential nominating process is still being played out. It certainly looks like Barack Obama is very close to wrapping it up, but Hillary Clinton is not yet giving up.

There are still three more contests left, on June 1 in Puerto Rico, and on June 3 in Montana and South Dakota. And now, Senator Clinton and her advisers are even leaving open the possibility that this process could drag on to the Democratic convention in Denver at the end of August, especially if there is no change in the party’s refusal to seat the full Michigan and Florida delegations.

Back in early January, just before the first caucuses in Iowa, few would have thought that this process could continue into June. Many pundits actually predicted the Republican nominating process could drag on. But the widely-held assumption then was that the Democrats would wrap it up quickly, probably with Hillary Clinton winning the nomination. All of this goes to show that making political predictions can be a risky business.

Now, Democratic insiders are already starting to look beyond this year. Some are questioning the entire nominating process.

For example, should the party do away with its superdelegates. “I never supported superdelegates to begin with – 25 years ago,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, herself a superdelegate, said today. “I ran for the Chair of the National Committee opposed to superdelegates. You can imagine what a winning platform that was.”

She wants the Democratic Party to reconsider its rules. “There should be some representation of that leadership of the party and the congressional, gubernatorial and other manifestations of the party, but I think 800 is far too many.”

Is it too early for the Democrats to rethink their rules for 2012 based on what has happened this year?

Filed under: Wolf Blitzer


rice, bryan   May 22nd, 2008 4:44 pm ET

this has actually been the best election year that i can remember. people are excited for once.

Ray jay   May 22nd, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Wolf…….Give your head a shake… You sound like your writing her position speaches and are sucked in

David, Santa Rosa, CA   May 22nd, 2008 4:46 pm ET

The question shouldn't be "could they" rather, "when they scrap the system, what might it be replaced with?"

Tina   May 22nd, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Wolf…let's get real here.

NO-BAMA   May 22nd, 2008 4:47 pm ET

TOO LATE WOLF….

I AM FINISHED WITH THE DEMOCRATS!

Why would they implore a system that gives MORE delegates to the candidate with LESS votes (example: obama in nevada)…

You call that democratic ?

Not to mention, they allow Clinton to be SWIFT-BOATED !

And they can't even reign-in George Bush?

It's over for the DEMS

cnn loves hillary   May 22nd, 2008 4:47 pm ET

really, i'm not gonna visit you site, and you tv stations any more,

you truly are Worst than fox new.

its a well known fact that CNN is on hillary's pay roll.

Donna Canadian Observer   May 22nd, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Hell yeah,
Up here in the great white north it's the votes that count you get the majority your the winner case closed.
While your at it get rid of the electoral colledge too.
Go by the popular vote, this would have saved your bacon in 2000 and Gore would have been your Prez for the last 8 years!

Venus   May 22nd, 2008 4:47 pm ET

The race is over June 3, 2008! Hillary doesn't have to get out - but after that———- she needs to pack it up- she didn't and I know it's killing her and Bill - since they didn't plan on having to beat anyone!

Well… no doubt - they are the joke of their party now - now that a rookie from no where is ahead and winning!

Our system is fine ————– it's the losers that are having a problem with our system!

Go Bam!

Proud1of 26% in WV   May 22nd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Scrap it ,go to winner take all states without any superdelegate mess.Let the voters decide.

Denise   May 22nd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Wolf - get real. This is just a game Hillary is playing. She couldn't care less about Michigan and Florida. If she did, she'd have come out fighting for them back in February. I guess you don't read the blogosphere much. Wake up call: Democrats are turning against her fast. I don't understand why the media acts like she's still in this and feels she deserves a consolation prize. She lost! Just as many other candidates lost. She's no champion for women. In fact, she giving us all a bad name.

DAN   May 22nd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Wow John McCain is on Ellen and he's good and connecting with the audience. He will be hard to beat in November, he's for real check it out.

TJ Johnson   May 22nd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

It would be typical of democrats' knee-jerk reaction to everything to now change a process that has been successful, this cycle an exception.

Scott   May 22nd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

I think DNC is doing they Job RIGHT I cant say that about "Hillary. She is a JOKE of all JOKE's . She sign NOT to Rally there FL and MI NOW that she is losing she feel that she have change it. the people better open there eyes and see what Hillary is up to. It's all about helping the company's they are getting money from. she was the only one campaigned in Florida or Michigan, Look at this pic what do you see. Hillary wont's to steal this incrementally. if she do I will not vote for her or the Democratic party any more.

Gayle   May 22nd, 2008 4:49 pm ET

There is nothing democratic in the way the Democratic party manipulates the timing of the votes and the use of superdelegates. If they want to know who the people of the democratic party want they should have a popular vote and let the person the people of the party, not just the leaders, want as the Democratic nominee.

FOR HILLARY   May 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Something will definitely be changed for the years to come. This whole superdelegates made this process a big mess only becasue they never thought it would come to this point. I'm not shure what needs to be done, but something will need to be changed so that we will NEVER have to go through this again.

I say do winner takes all

Donna, NY   May 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Don't worry Wolf, any system that doesn't benefit the Clintons WILL be scrapped. I think there are some changes that should be made with the superdelegates, but I like the caucuses.

Hillary did not do well with the caucuses, so that will be scrapped, because the Clintons run the DNC. They are the most selfish, self-centered people on the planet.

Obama 08

JJ   May 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

No I don't think it's too early to rethink the process. Actually, all processes need to be looked at and reviewed periodcally to see where improvements can be made.

I think they should re-think and revamp the process primarily because of the superdelegates. I can't imagine being in a system where the majority of the nommination rests on the hands of politicans. What about the common people who cast their vote. I don't think it's hardly fair for a bunch of people could have so much power that they can overturn the will of the people.

No one should have that much power

Arin   May 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Clinton is already applying the "scrap the current delegate system". She wants all the delegates in Michigan, and wants Obama to get ZERO.
Get it… she wins Michigan by acclimation. Come on Wolf, call out the absurdity that is the idea that Clinton is winning the 'popular vote'. There was no primary in Michigan and Florida. People were told it wouldn't count so stay home, and many did. Talk about disenfranchisement!

ALL THE WAY TO DENVER   May 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Hmmm…. You think that the Democrats would have decided on this after the 2000 election when every Democrat felt the election should have gone to Gore b/c he won the popular vote.

NO MORE RIGGED ELECTIONS IN AMERICA!

1 VOTE = 1 VOTE

THIS IS NOT A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. WE SPEND MILLIONS ON ELECTIONS AND EVERY VOTE SHOULD BE COUNTED AND HOLD EQUAL WEIGHT!

Seat FL and MI the way they voted if Obama will not allow them to revote.

Hillary 08

tony, Mount Vernon, NY   May 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Personally I think we should have a national primary day similar to Election Day. Also, I don't see the need for caucuses even if they do build up a party. Just because you caucus with a party doesn't mean you'll vote for that party in November anyway. Further, the traditional system gives too much power to obscure states like Iowa and New Hampshire. After Hillary lost Iowa everyone said she was done even though just one state voted. Then when she won the second state, New Hampshire, it was hailed as a big comeback. Why all the fuss? It was just 2 states out of 50 that got to vote. Lastly, the process is too long. Let's have all Democrats and Republicans vote in their party primary in June, hold the conventions in August and have the general election in November. Simple fix I think.

Romulus, Michigan   May 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

When thing don’t go the way (white people) want it to go; in their favor. It is time to change the system. When Tiger Woods was winning every tenement it was time to change the rules.

truthurts   May 22nd, 2008 4:51 pm ET

She should call her girlfriend Geraldine since she is the one responsible for the supers….

White Grandma for Obama   May 22nd, 2008 4:51 pm ET

We should definitely keep the proportional delegate system. That seems much more "democratic." I would be in favor, though, of scrapping the superdelegate count, or at least changing it as Nancy Pelosi says.

Bob in Des Moines   May 22nd, 2008 4:51 pm ET

WE NEED CHANGE on this process. I was in the Iowa Caucuses and they are very manual and disorganized. It was really quite a nightmare.

For now, we should have our process mirror that of the Electoral College for winning states. This would help to ensure victories for the general election.

Bigger picture: I think our overall election system needs overhauled. The people's voices should put a candidate in office if this is a true democracy. I think all delegates and the electoral college should be scraped. They give members of our government too much power to overturn the popular vote. This is why we were stuck with Bush for the last 4 years where the people did not want him.

Charlie   May 22nd, 2008 4:51 pm ET

We were so blind in 2000 and 2004, but our eyes are open now. Americans want the truth. We don't want one more soldier to die for oil or the other lies we've been told.

It's a new day and we are smarter than a fifth grader.

Obama 08

Jeff   May 22nd, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Yes, I think the only reliable metric should be the elected delegates awarded proportionately so that the candidate with majority delegates wins the nomination. That is democracy in action, not this crap that we are now witnessing. I am losing interest in this kind of politics.

Deb   May 22nd, 2008 4:52 pm ET

I know that what I witnessed in our "Texas Two Step" was horrifying!

What happened wasn't close to meeting election laws and it was not democratic!

It is why I know that Obama and his thugs have stolen this Primary season.

The fact that they ended up with more delegates then possible is the sure proof of "Funny" business.

I will never vote for a cheater!

Chuck R   May 22nd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

If it was winner take all like the GOP Clinton would have had the election wrapped up after Pennsylvania.

Terrence (Winston Salem, NC)   May 22nd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Yes, but no MID election…

Ricky the Rocket, Dallas   May 22nd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Forget the super delegates—forget the pledged delegates—they are now irrelevant.

Hillary is going to run as an Independent, so you can stick all your delegates where the sun doesn't shine.

Obamarites, start planning for 2016′. Your'e locked out until then.

Diane, MT   May 22nd, 2008 4:54 pm ET

No superdelegates. Nancy said eight hundred is far too many, but I think one is too many. Let the people vote, and let their votes be the last word.

Jaun   May 22nd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

This is indeed one of the best election year, but I don't think the domocrats should rethink the rules. THE SUPERDELEGATES SHOULD OF DELIVERED BY NOW.
Hillary needs a strong message telling her its over…NOW.
OBAMA 08

Justin, Austin TX   May 22nd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

I honestly think 2012 should be entirely different.

Starting with winner-take-all, regional primaries, and the only superdelegates are governors, senators, and representatives with 1/2 vote each.

Let the popular vote decide the nomination - i.e. winner-take-all - and make the whole thing more efficient.

bili   May 22nd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

the bad thing is hilary is making the whole issue a do or die affair.in the first place she agreed to that rule and just because she is not winning she wants the whole thing turn around.be careful of what you wish.do to others what you will want them to do unto you.i don't belief that woman have any consceince.

Deezy   May 22nd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Wolf i'm sorry to say but it looks like you are giving Hillary some nasty ideas. Soon she'll start insisting that she is the nominee by virtue of popular vote inclusive of MI and FL. In any contest rules are set before start of play and players agree to abide by them and no player is allowed to bend the rules towards the end of the game when he/she is down so as to win. I think this MI, FL twister and the popular vote "lie" is total BS!

Bridgette-PA   May 22nd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

If this is the way it's always been, why change it now….because Hillary and her supporters say so?

mankopi   May 22nd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Hillary:
Change the rules so I can win!
A good president is one who knows when to quit but obviously Hillary doesnt know when to stop. Imagine if she started a real war [eg with Iran], do you think she will know when to end it?

Chuck R   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Clinton leads Obama in delegates elected by the voters in Primary Election states. Obama's entire lead in pledged delgates comes from the caucus states. Clinton has had more people vote for her in Primary Elections. …and yet it looks like that candidate that lost 7 of the last 11 primaries, got less votes and would have lost in a winner take all system may still get the nomination.

steveg   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Sure, let's change it now since it doesn't suit the whims of your royal highness (intentional "misspelling") Herr Clinton.

Why is nooone asking her why she has a problem with it only now, when it was what all the candidates agreed to before the primary season.

She was offered a more than fair percentage of Michigan given noone else was on the ballot (yet another issue she's not being questioned on with any vigor) but refused it. Why? To keep dragging on this artificially inflated issue untl she's given the nomination because of who she is, or thinks she is? It could be argued that Florida's delegates could be seated proportionally to the votes cast but with fewer delegates as some level of punishment for electing stupid representatives who violated the AGREED TO rules. It's harder to argue Michigan since she renegged on taking her name off the ballot as the candidates agreed to, and her refusal to compromise calls into question her sincerity - not that she's ever ever given cause to question her on this before *cough* Bosnia *cough* NAFTA *cough*

This is getting real old real fast.

Independent for Obama   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

I agree that there is no need for 800 superdelegates. Let the people vote, have them elect the delegates, and no more of this messy, drawn out who-endorses-who-today game!!

Boye   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Well, If they change the nomination system and Hillary runs and loses in 2012; they system will have to be changed once again. We can all complain about the rules when the game is over but the fact is people develop their strategies based on the rules. You can't start a basketball game and at the end say the team with the least number of fouls win the game.
Yes, the current system has flaws but don't try to use a different yardstick to determine the winner.

Victory for Hillary   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

The FACT is, Wolf, had the democrats used the same model as the GOP in their nomination process - Hillary Clinton would be the nominee. The flaws with the caucusing only further divides the party and should be stopped.

bringin the pain   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

NOBAMA ever

AK   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Only supedelegates will be left and democratic party will disappear.

Ann   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Hillary is the only democrat deserving of the nomination…we do not need someone who has sat under Wright all these years. If he gets the nomination, after it's proven that she's the most electable, I will give up on this system of ours. It doesn't work….

Melinda Charlotte, NC   May 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Wolf,
This race has been the most exciting race of my lifetime. The delegate allocation would be fine with the exception of the caucuses. The caucus system needs to be scrapped entirely. The United States is actually a republic with proportional representation, so it is fine to award delegates based on actual votes. The problem with caucuses is that they are inherenly unfair and are discriminatory. They are also not weighted the same way as primary delegates. The primary delegates represent a much larger swath of people than the caucus delegates do. The superdelegates also need to be scrapped. The United States, I would hope, would be able to choose a president without some other entity overriding the will of the people. In short, make each delegate count for the exact same number of people as any other delegate. Each delegate equals 1,000 people for instance. That is the only democratic solution to proportional representation.

Dennis   May 22nd, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Wolf, would you please stop encouraging Hillary? If this goes all the way to the convention, you'll be partly responsible for us having to endure a President McTwoface and even worse a Vice President wanna be Reagan Romney.

Just Say...   May 22nd, 2008 4:59 pm ET

The word is no.

I hope someone will be brave enough to tell Hillary no. Just say no.

No, Hillary you can't have America. No Hillary the presidency is not yours, so play nice. No Hillary, we know the "hard working whites" voted for you in Kentucky, and West Virginia, but there are other hard working people of all races who voted for Barack. No Hillary, this contest is about the delegates, not the populous vote. And no Hillary, you can't change the rules for Florida and Michigan just because you are losing and those states favor you. You shouldn't have broken the rules by keeping your name on the Michigan ballot.

Just say no folks. No, no, and no to you Hillary.

Edison from Strubolt County   May 22nd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

The Democrats should put Hillary in an airtight box and jettison her into a black hole. That way it'd be impossible to hear her moaning and groaning ever again.

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah   May 22nd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Wolf ,you are so one-sided towards Hillary, so lets change it right now for her Wolf. Give me a break Wolf!

Anonymous   May 22nd, 2008 5:01 pm ET

The whole delegate system is flawed. The "super delegates" need to be completely removed from the process, they are not (for the most part) representative of their constituents, which are the people who are supposed to matter! Also, they need to move to a more Republican system of winner take all. In the general election the electoral votes are not split up, why should they be here? The whole delegate system is going to greatly hurt the Democrats in 2008, they are most likely going to nominate a canidate (Obama) who can not win the all important states because some "superdelegates" votes matter more so than the peoples. This needs to be fixed as soon as possible if they want any chance at the White House in 2012.

CNN - but not for long......   May 22nd, 2008 5:01 pm ET

These rules and Howard Dean are just un-Democratic at times. The 'making up the rules as he goes' Dean will be the undoing of the Democratic Party as we know it. Since when do Democrats willingly and willfully disenfranchise millions of votes - especially since Florida in particular was as a result of Republicans??????? Only with Howard Dean could such a travesty occur! Watch out for the number of Democrats who leave the party and re-register as Independents.

Rave   May 22nd, 2008 5:01 pm ET

No matter what they do, Delegates , Superdelegates - it is very fair to nominate Mr. Barack Obama. He is clearly the winner by people's decision.
Why is the entire country revolving around Hillary's idea of changing rules every time she gets closer to loosing this nomination?
Just watch her closely from the begining.. Pledged delegates, Superdelegates, FL / MI, Popular vote and what else??
Why is the Media giving so much weight to her clear nonsense???
I think CNN is playing very unfair towards Obama and towards Democrats. CNN is motivated to seat a Republican in white house again like 2004. Hillary Vs McCain is clear McCain win - even my dog knows it.

Gringo   May 22nd, 2008 5:03 pm ET

ABSOLUTELY…change the rules to make it a majority rules election. Too bad they didn't think of that before a string of stupid unfair caucuses and the debacle in Texas.
Now they have saddled themselves with a no-win no-experience candidate that will get blown out in November. Dems have done it again a la McGovern, etc.

FrankSmith   May 22nd, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Why do the Clintons always "crew up" whatever they touch, including Paula, Monica, Whitewater, White House items…. and the list goes on!

When will the Dems find the time to uplift their nominee for the general election?

What are the Dems interested in: a fair nominating process OR a dynasty of families?

Eduardo   May 22nd, 2008 5:03 pm ET

This nominating process is a terribel system. Some states choose delegates based on primaries, others on caucases and then some based on both. Whatever happened to a true democracy where the winner of the popular vote actually wins! Gore lost becuase of a faulty system and now we are seeing the repeat of 2000 all over again.
I have to hand it to the Democrats to figuring out ways to lose once more.

Marilyn   May 22nd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

The popular vote is the ONLY thing that should count in any election? After all, aren't we supposed to be a country governed BY the people?

Chris   May 22nd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

The process shouldn't be scrapped just because a particular candidate loses (you don't change the rules of Football or our legal system because someone loses). "If" it is reviewed/scrapped, it needs to be done with respect to fairness, equality, consistency (caucus or votes - maybe not a mixture?) and democracy.

There also must be pre-defined rules and consiquences… what's going on is divisive for both the country and MI/FL. Most of the country feels what Hillary is doing is out of greed, desperation and flip-flopping - FL/MI voters feel left out (both those that voted and those that didn't head out to vote).

The system worked for Bill and past candidates, why is this year "different"?

Real Change   May 22nd, 2008 5:05 pm ET

SCRAP IT!!!!!!!!!! SCRAP IT!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE PRECIOUS SAKE OF GOD SCRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP IIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alex in TX   May 22nd, 2008 5:05 pm ET

The delegate system is archaic. It was created back when people had to vote locally and jum on a horse and buggy to go to Washington to let people know who each "locale" was voting for. We have moder communication system that renders the delegate system useless.

Had the electoral college been scrapped long ago like it should have been, our President right now would be Al Gore and the world would be a better place.

RB   May 22nd, 2008 5:06 pm ET

It's about the number of DELEGATES! Would someone please shake Hillary awake. Popular vote (which you aren't winning anyway, sweetie) and five dollars will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Don't worry, they'll pour it for you!

YOU'VE LOST! TAKE YOUR LICKINGS LIKE A WOMAN AND MOVE ON!!!

vic nashville,Tn   May 22nd, 2008 5:08 pm ET

The new polls shows that DNC have problems with their primary elections process
I hope by 2012 they will fix it
There is no clear winner in Democratic party
I am life long Democrat this time me, my friends and my family members may vote for Mc Cain in November
This is nothing do with Obama we are mad at DNC and some Media

Rosalind   May 22nd, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Hillary should get a life. She is only pushing this issue because she is behind and not likely to be the nominee.
She agreed to the original plan and decision to not count the votes in Michigan and Florida. Now she wants them to count.
What about all the people who did not vote because they knew their votes would not count? What happens to thier non voice?

The rules committee should not give all these delegates to Hillary just to change the outcome of the campaign. Obama is the winner and should rightfully be the nominee.

gerard morei   May 22nd, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Hillary for President and second choice Hillary for President again!!!

Jeanne, San Diego   May 22nd, 2008 5:09 pm ET

I think they should get rid of the superdelegates and adjust the rules for penalizing states that don't follow the rules so that they don't end up in the same mess again but otherwise, I think this system is more democratic than what the Republicans have and so the Democrats should find a way to make it work.

Sherri   May 22nd, 2008 5:10 pm ET

People are excited, committed and ready for change. That is extraordinarily good for the Democratic Party and for the country.

There do need to be some changes. There also should be a provision where each candidate must personally sign under oath a statement to abide by the rules or be disqualified to run…simple as that.

for realsies   May 22nd, 2008 5:10 pm ET

superdelegates need to go. in fact, delegates need to go. have primaries. popular vote at primaries decides the candidate. that way, we can't have a losing candidate claim to have the popular vote when they obviously don't because there will be a clear count.

on top of that, no more electoral college. just let the people choose for god's sake. the electoral college made sense forever and a day ago, but we are now in the (mis)information age, and people have access to a whole world of data that didnt even exist before. there is no longer a need for educated elitists to over rule the decision of the people, because the people are (mostly) not in the dark.

Angus McDugan   May 22nd, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Only if Hillary thinks it will get her the nomination. Then you will see her 100% behind changing everything.

Kumar   May 22nd, 2008 5:11 pm ET

I totally agree with the idea of scrapping the superdelegates. I have more suggestions. They should also add a provision which clarifies that it is only the pledged delegates not the pupular vote which qualifies for election. It should also be clearly stated that popular vote arguement can not be contested.

jenkins   May 22nd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

They should copy the republican approach.

stacy   May 22nd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

I agree with Bryan Rice, let it continue on all the way to the convention
for the nominee, It is something to be interested in rather than rising
food, gas, utilities that is eating away at our pocketbooks. May the
best candidate win.

Val!   May 22nd, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Democrats' chances to win in November are shrinking by the minute. It will be halluva victory for Republicans come general election, despite the fact that Democrats had everything in their advantage to win this election.

Vincent   May 22nd, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Clinton cannot change the rules in the middle of the game!

Sam   May 22nd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

there's nothing wrong with the process. Obama will get the required number of delegates, like all nominees are supposed to. Wolf, you give too much credibility to the Clinton way of thinking. If you don't, you'll realise that the process is still going on as designed and it's working well

Elisabeth   May 22nd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

They should consider the entire nominating process. The caucuses were all frauds.

MM   May 22nd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

I don't think it is too soon for them to talk about what it should be like in the next election. I would like it to be based totally on popular vote. I don't want it to see it to reflect the Republican's method of "winner takes all". Yes, I know that is how it is in the general but I think the primary is about chosing a candidate that will represent the the majority. I think that all primaries should be a closed primaries — meaning you must be registered as a Democrat in order to vote. I realize that independents will be left out but guess what, you are not a member of the party, why should you be given input as to the nominee - and btw I am an independent.

fairandstraight   May 22nd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

If this was the same process that elected the last Democratic nominee they should keep it the same. Rather than scrap the process, they should scrap the intent of the superdelegates. If one candidate has the majority of the elected delegates and the other one is trying to find a way to destroy the party rather than concede, then the superdelegates end the process. I think they are holding out for personal gain rather than waiting for all states to vote.

Patrick, Lake Stevens, WA   May 22nd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

The Democrats should revise or scrap the process entirely as it is too complicated right now. Clinton, however, is using it for all it's worth when you consider a few weeks ago she was spouting how she had the lead in Superdelegates despite being down in pledged delegates - when she fell behind in superdelegates over a week ago, she insisted, if not, demanded that Michigan and Florida’s votes be counted because she was ahead in the popular vote, according to her. Please, scrap this process and come up with something new so we don't get people like Hillary dragging out a process that could ultimately hurt the Democratic Party nominee!

sb   May 22nd, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Just give it to Clinton. That crazy, insane woman might hurt the poor man if she doesn't win.

Lynnette   May 22nd, 2008 5:18 pm ET

No, I don't want the Democratic Party to scrap the rules for deciding the presidential nominee. Why should we? Just because Hillary doesn't like it this year?

I don't understand why people are blaming the DNC and Barack Obama for Florida and Michigan breaking the rules of the club. They knew the rules, the knew the penalties, and they did it anyway. All of those politicians in both of those states should be without jobs when election time comes around.

James Nelson   May 22nd, 2008 5:19 pm ET

I don't know why you'd want to scrap something that has given us the most exciting, invigorating and historic political race in recent memory.

It ain't broke, don't fix it.

Concerned   May 22nd, 2008 5:19 pm ET

As DNC chairman, McAuliffe wrote about threatening to strip Michigan of 50% of its delegates if it moved up its date. Bill Clinton has also called a 50% penalty “appropriate.”

Ickes sits on the committee and last year voted to strip Florida of its delegates.

fred   May 22nd, 2008 5:20 pm ET

They should have re-thought them before this election. The DNC is a disgrace to the Democratic Party. I am ashamed at the way this primary. Do away with the caucus, they are a joke. We had one where I live and they totally disenfranchise the voters.

GO HIllary!!

Ill voter   May 22nd, 2008 5:20 pm ET

They NEED to do away with the current process, as does the national electoral college.

Voters are better informed than ever before and can make their own decisions.

I voted for Obama, and if he loses from superdelegate vote there is NO WAY I will vote for Hillary. If the race was tight in the popular state-by-state vote (pladged delegates) I could accept superdelegates making the choice.

Obama has a huge lead in pledged delegates and any other Democratic nominee goes against the will of the voters.

Adedokun from Atlanta   May 22nd, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Nothing is wrong with the Democratic primary process.It is the Clinton campaign that wants to change the rules in the middle of the game to suite their purpose.She has forgotten that the same process produced her Husband 16 years ago .

s.b.   May 22nd, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Take it to the floor Hill!

You're the only one who can win in Nov. polls will show that more and more up until Denver. Dems either want the white house or they don't.

MonaP   May 22nd, 2008 5:21 pm ET

This delegate idea is idiotic - let the voters decide who should be the nominee. And while we're at it - let's get rid of the Electoral College. The popular vote of the people directly should be the determination of who are leader is.

Under this current system votes in some places count heavily while other votes hardly count at all - how is that fair?

lugina   May 22nd, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Wolf , Donna Brazile–Dean… INSIDE JOB , great job DNC…!!!!

Hillary 08!!!

Jonathan   May 22nd, 2008 5:22 pm ET

I say keep the Super Delegates, but make it a winner take all system as opposed to a proportional system. THAT is the reason this is taking so long.

Juliet/55 YEAR OLD WHITE LADY FOR OBAMA   May 22nd, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Hillary needs to drop out now. She is damaging this party and it doesn't seem like she gives two sheet to the wind about the american people

Chris In California   May 22nd, 2008 5:23 pm ET

I hope so! This has been nothing but a fiasco and I think the responsibility for it lies squarely on the shoulders of Howard Dean and the members of the Rules and Bylaws Committee. What a mess they have created!

Paul from Boston   May 22nd, 2008 5:23 pm ET

Every candidate agreed to the rules this year. If they change them for the next election, great, whatever. Just don't act like changing the rules in the middle of the game is acceptable and fair simply because it benefits you. If you agree to the rules at the start of the game, you agree to them at the end. Only a fool serves their own self interests so blatantly otherwise…

Ryan   May 22nd, 2008 5:23 pm ET

The worst part of the superdelegate system is that in 1996, everyone in Congress automatically was made a superdelegate for holding the position.

I do find it tragically funny that Hillary's supporters now are even complaining about the superdelegates, as though 150 of the 700+ didn't come out for her at the outset of the process.

Accept it, Hillary wasn't "likeable enough." The dishonesty being shown by her campaign right now is the reason that many of us didn't want her in the first place. I've been lied to enough by politicians lately.

matthew   May 22nd, 2008 5:23 pm ET

the winner should be determined on popular vote. it's a simple concept. and it makes sense.

why should 800 people get to choose the fate of the country?

LET THE PEOPLE VOTE!

Jim   May 22nd, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Why should they? This is how elections are won; vote by vote

Linned   May 22nd, 2008 5:24 pm ET

You have to take into consideration who the candidates are. This is a once (or a first, however you would say it) in a lifetime chance for an African American or a woman to be President.

Tex   May 22nd, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Wolf, your are right. Few thought it would go to June 3 and that includes Hillary, Bill, James Carvile and most especially Clinton News Network. Then Obama came as the underdog and blew right past her and hasn't stopped extending his lead after she was going to wrap it up on Super Tuesday.

hmmmmm.....sounds fishy   May 22nd, 2008 5:25 pm ET

yeah…..Hillary would like it scrapped on May 31st….if possible
Go Hillary
08

James   May 22nd, 2008 5:26 pm ET

First, caucuses should be done away with the same way the electoral college should be. They are not democratic nor are they logical.
Perhaps it's best to have the winner take all like the Republicans and then you have a winner more quickly.

Zach   May 22nd, 2008 5:27 pm ET

They will definitely rethink the rules for 2012. It's not too early because they are already in the process of rethinking the rules for 2008 (possibly considering seating the delegates from Michigan and Florida, that were excluded by the current set of rules).
If they weren't rethinking the rules, those delegates would not be considered and there would not be a special meeting on May 31 to decide.

James B.   May 22nd, 2008 5:27 pm ET

I don't think it's too many. Party elders and office holders are important to the process. If I was king for a day, I'd bunch the primaries closer together and get them (and the convention) over with sooner. That way, candidates wouldn't have to raise these obscene amounts of money to end up not getting nominated.

Terry, Butte, Montana   May 22nd, 2008 5:28 pm ET

June 4th is when all the remaining super delegates need to endorse.

I would hope that CNN or another news agency would get both Obama and Clinton to say they will stand by whatever decision is made in regard to Florida and Michigan.

This needs to end on June 4th. If the losing candidate tries to continue on to the convention then I would hope that ALL the super delegates vote for the winning candidate.

FEDUP   May 22nd, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Redo the whole system. Straight state votes, no caucuses, no splitting delegates.

Concerned   May 22nd, 2008 5:29 pm ET

It's not the voters fault but the rules are the rules and Fl and MI should turn their anger toward the GOP who mislead them.
______________________________________________________
As DNC chairman, McAuliffe wrote about threatening to strip Michigan of 50% of its delegates if it moved up its date. Bill Clinton has also called a 50% penalty “appropriate.”

Ickes sits on the committee and last year voted to strip Florida of its delegates.

Mary K   May 22nd, 2008 5:29 pm ET

In an weird way, it may be working for the Democrats. McCain has been completely marginalized in the press. Though Clinton is starting to look like a crazy person, Obama has had time to make himself a known entity to the American people. Provided that Clinton doesn't totally implode and try to destroy the process (and who knows given her recent racist comments) it's actually been positive for Obama.

Rose - Baltimore, MD   May 22nd, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Blitzer,

This is why it is called a democratic party. There is democracy, everyone gets a fair share of delegets, so that people don't go to vote for a candidate and their candidate comes out with zero delegates. If you don't like it you have the choice of being a republican or independent.

JB   May 22nd, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Its not whether they could, its whether they should and the answer is yes.

Being from NH, I can tell you that having small primaries first allows the candidates to get in touch with people, not 30,000 at a time.

Consolidate the dates, unify the procedures and REMOVE FLORIDA PERMANENTLY!!!!

ricoman   May 22nd, 2008 5:30 pm ET

People are excited, but only those that believe there is a chance for Clinton to win based on the possible reversal of the popular vote by the Superdelegates. But if we start with the elimination of the Superdelegates, we shouldn't stop there. We should get rid of the Caucus system as well. It's antiquated and not transparent. Not very democratic, even though it helped boost Obama, whom I support.

ham   May 22nd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

I like Hillary Clinton, but she is looking really desperate and pathetic. For the sake of her own dignity she should stop.

Sarah   May 22nd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

All this because Clinton is losing. OBAMA 08′

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   May 22nd, 2008 5:33 pm ET

The DNC needs to do it the way the Republicans. Half the states should be winner-take-all, and if one of the states disobeys the rules, only take HALF of the delegates.

And most of all, get rid of the superdelegates! The only reason they're needed is because there were no winner-take-all states!

Ellie in Aurora, CO   May 22nd, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Good point, Bryan. It would be good, though, to have a contest in which there couldn't be a disparity, or claim of disparity, between the popular votes and the delegates. If we could just do straight popular vote in both primaries and general elections. Isn't that a true democracy? As it is, we have some people or states count for more than others. Let's hope the Dems and all change the process.

54-year-old white woman with MBA proud to be an Obamabot!

susants   May 22nd, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Proportional representation is the closest we can get to democracy in a republic.
The process has worked well in letting us get acquainted with states and constituencies we would not know.
Democrats have been diligent and responsible in carrying out their responsibilities.
The process has thrown up an exciting winner who has 'earned' the nomination by winning more states, more pledged and super delegates and the popular vote.
What has been unpleasant is that the loser is trying to overturn the results by whatever means.

Nina B.   May 22nd, 2008 5:34 pm ET

It should be "winner take all", as in the Republican Party. What a mess! Hillary shoud have been the nominee a long time ago. I guess it's just tough luck, Hillary, right? This is a travesty.

N. Brown

Blabberwitz   May 22nd, 2008 5:35 pm ET

What should be scrapped is this hysterical woman unable to come to grips with her pathetic situation. Clinton really needs to be institutionalized.

avoter   May 22nd, 2008 5:35 pm ET

They need to do away with superdelegates and the whole electoral vote altogether. One person; one vote - let the individuals tell the story — popular vote only.

Allan   May 22nd, 2008 5:35 pm ET

NO. The current system stinks.

I think that they should do away with the caucuses, with those that have been in place for over 20 years being excepted (i.e. Iowa, etc). The newer caucuses in the larger states seem to be great for highly motivated followers, but not so good for the general population, who may not have the time (or stamina) needed to be at a caucus. Also, the caucus rarely reflects the general election voting, or even the process.

I think they should have all of the primaries within 2 months of each other, split into 4 batches (i.e. 2nd Tuesday of April, then the 4th Tuesday of April, then the 2nd Tuesday of May, and finally, the 4th Tuesday of May). I don't know how to divy them up, off hand.

They could experiment with giving the winners of a state ALL of the delegates (similar to the Electoral College), however, this would tend to favor early winners. Or it could go the other way, and leave the party even more split.

I'm debating whether the superdelegates would be needed at all (especially, if all they do is reflect the vote in their state), or whether they're a great idea that has been held back by the current circumstances.

The only good thing about this year's primary season, is that it has been a rollercoaster ride, and also interesting. More people are paying attention, more are registered, and more are voting. And, it still going on!

CHICANO ART, ARIZONA   May 22nd, 2008 5:35 pm ET

The DNC is incredibly complicated and is at times undemocratic in how it allocates delegates. The super delegates further complicate the issue. They are supposed to be safeguards against the far left's radical, unelectable choice, but are being bullied into simply validating the radicals choice. Believe me Obama is radical.

The far left feels it is necessary to cram their radical agendas down democrats throuts just because we want better health care. Some feel that we can only live up to ideals by nominating Obama because he is black. This is the worst kind of affirmitive action because it is going to cost the Democrates many votes, including mine, and will certainly lose the general election.

scrapit   May 22nd, 2008 5:36 pm ET

Obviously the democratic system is bad. The especially need to clean out the DNC.

HSNP   May 22nd, 2008 5:36 pm ET

Yes. Scrap it.

Tom   May 22nd, 2008 5:37 pm ET

I don't think it is a matter of changing the system… It is a matter of wanting to change the rules, in the middle of the game just because you are losing.

David D Kollie   May 22nd, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Barack Obama is BOXER.
B–body shattering
O–Outstanding
X–Xterminator
E–enegitic
R–Remarkable

He was overlooked by the so-called pundits. But he proves to be a well known BOXER. Let HRC give it up.

Allan   May 22nd, 2008 5:37 pm ET

My "NO" in my previous posting (if it makes it) was in regards to Wolf's last question, as to whether it was too early to start thinking about changing the system.

taylor richmond virginia   May 22nd, 2008 5:37 pm ET

question? if Puerto Rico has no delegates in the general, why do they have 55 in the primary?

Mike in Calgary   May 22nd, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Clinton does not do her homework (didn't read intelligence report before voting to start War in Iraq). She lies (about Bosnia). And now she RENEGES on her agreement that the Controverted Elections to be held in Florida and Michigan would not count.

IS THERE ANY GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR THE CLINTONS OTHER THAN SELF-INTEREST?

The Lady who brought self-service to the Public Service squandered her lead with her own incompetence.

Mike

Independent99999   May 22nd, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Yes.
No super delegates.
No RULE CHANGES .. If someone like Hillary talks of rules for political advantage, that PERSON should be DISQUALIFIED from running any further from destroying American Values
Majority of Elected Delegates should decide the outcome. No twists
Proportional allocation of Delegates should continue as it is now

Dustin   May 22nd, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Dems. definately need to figure this out. In winner-take-all Hillary would have the nomination. Their process for "fairness" turned out to be too complicated and just plain causes problems.

Superdelegates have enough sway by making endorsements if they so choose, their vote should not count any more than anyone elses.

I say for 2012 they do something a little more clear-cut like the Republicans or at least figure out something a little more realistic.

Sarah   May 22nd, 2008 5:40 pm ET

How about one person one vote? This delegate system is very messed up. To think that certain regions can have different weight based on how many people voted last time and not based on population.

km   May 22nd, 2008 5:40 pm ET

I think they need to have some sort of system that allows for the party to step in if a likely to lose candidate is nominated. With this youtube generation…we could be looking at Leroy Jenkins getting the nomination. If you don't think it can happen, ask Minnesota how they liked Jesse Ventura as Gov.

Seminole3232 - Atlanta   May 22nd, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Since CNN NEVER posts my responses-Name Change.

Sure, scrap the delegates. How then to decide? Let's face it. Voting in a primary or caucus for any party is SUBJECT to party rules and is not subject to the RIGHT TO VOTE in this country. Our parties are like fraternities. If you don't like the rules, leave.

Personally I think that all elections whether for a party or a general election should be 100% based on the popular vote. Oh yes, that mean to hell with the electoral college as well.

Ben   May 22nd, 2008 5:40 pm ET

I have one more comment. You probably won't print it.
I only want the people to vote for someone they truly think would be the best president. Don't vote out of predjudice. I don't see what color or what sex has to do with anything except to prove you are still living in an America that has left predjudice behind.Your old America has grown up and must have to drag you kicking and screaming into the new age where we actually vote for the candidates merits NOT because of age sex or color.

Black Veteran For Obama   May 22nd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

WE ARE ALL WITNESSING THE DEATH OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!

Joseph Adewole   May 22nd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

You are correct; we all thought this would be over some months back but then God turnred the wisdom of Hillary to foolishness. She came in with PRIDE………….'I AM IN IT TO WIN IT'…God looked down from Heaven and said to her………….like King Nebucadnezer.
In everything one tries to do, one should always think of his or her Creator. The pride is so obvious that even Bill called it a 'fairy tale' then and now he calls it 'house of fun'. Is anything too difficult for HIM?

Charlotte   May 22nd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Scrap the whole system. Superdelegates are supposed to insure the right person get the nomination. It is so screwed up, republicans, independents being allowed to vote in the democrats primary is totaly misleading as far as November goes. Caucuses which dis-infranchise people who are physically unable to stand around for perhaps hours to vote or for other reasons cannot spend the time.

Seminole3232 - Atlanta   May 22nd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Winner take all isn't the way to go either. Count the votes and who ever has more wins, even if the margin is 1.

jannie   May 22nd, 2008 5:42 pm ET

mcclain stevenson from mash had more of a coherent plan for our contry than MCBUSH does. People, read the mccain FINE PRINT. It is Bush third term stuff….

Seminole3232 - Atlanta   May 22nd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

It's awesome that all the Hillary supporters NOW have a problem with the system. No one complained when they thought Queen Hillary would win the nomination by a landslide. But not the system is broken. Shesh.

Gringo   May 22nd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

ABSOLUTELY…change the rules to make it a majority rules election. Too bad they didn't think of that before a string of stupid unfair caucuses and the debacle in Texas.
Now they have saddled themselves with a no-win no-experience candidate that will get blown out in November. Dems have done it again a la McGovern, etc.

ap   May 22nd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Hillary should be ashamed of herself. Heer bid to continue on is splitting the party just as she wants, all the while denying it. She and Bill have shown little regard for the "American People" they profess to love by continuing this non-fight.

Bud Curtis   May 22nd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Gee, Wolf, if the Democratic party insiders are questioning the nominating process, which everyone believes has been a failure this election cycle, do you suppose there may be something wrong with the process? I am sure glad these geniuses are at the helm.
Bud Curtis
Miami, OK
Democrat

Chris   May 22nd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Wolf,

Can you believe FoxNews stole your idea of "The Situation Room" with now there version called "The Strategy Room." It's unbelievable how closely the copied you guys, even the music to the show sounds nearly identical. They even stole the idea of the electronic map that John King uses all the time.

Randy - Denver   May 22nd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Wolf can you PLEASE STOP CAMPAIGNING FOR MS. CLINTON and try, just for once to report news?

While it may be a legitimate question for the DNC to discuss INTERNALLY it is NOT your place to have this discussion how the DNC choses to pick its candidate is up to them and them alone! This type of "News/Reporting" is nothing more than your attempt to keep Ms. Clinton and her lies front and center so those who do not understand the system will be able to cry that she was cheated

obama played by the rules   May 22nd, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Hillary is so desperate she is making a fool out of herself every single day..Obama has did everything that has been asked of him.He played by the rules ,he followed the rules and according to the rules he will and should be the nominee..Hillary is so vocal about florida and michigan now because she is losing.Why wasn't she so vocal when they had their primaries.The bottom line is she wasn't vocal then is because she thought this nomination was her back then and she underestimated Barack Obama and now she is desperate..Nobody gave Obama this nomination he earned it and if Hilary is the nominee she didn't earn it she stoled it

Jeff in Illinois   May 22nd, 2008 5:44 pm ET

The DNC can start with making sure that everyone's vote will count BEFORE we begin a nomination process and by getting rid of the caucus system. Unfortunately, states make up their own minds.

Pam   May 22nd, 2008 5:44 pm ET

What they really do need to scrap is Hillary's speeches, they are putting people to sleep amongst other things :)

Tony Rogers   May 22nd, 2008 5:45 pm ET

I guess we should change the system since the person that was suspose to win is losing. That want change anything. It will happen again with different rules. Why? Because a sore loser is born every day.

Peace

Desmond   May 22nd, 2008 5:45 pm ET

I like how people want to change things when thing don't go their way. I quess the most people don't remember that they validated Bush for a second term. So, now because things are close people want change.

Jack Colson   May 22nd, 2008 5:45 pm ET

I"ve always said:
THE PEOPLE DON'T ELECT THE PRESIDENT
It's true folks.
Jack
Oregon

No Way   May 22nd, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Yes, they should go the way of the Republicans and the GE…winner take all.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   May 22nd, 2008 5:46 pm ET

This sounds totally stupid at this time. Democrats need to fix what we've got at this time, scrap Hillary, and then consider changing the process.

noemi in los angeles   May 22nd, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Rules are the rules.

Hillary agreed to the rule that disenfranchised FL and MI voters.

She is only trying to break them for her own political gain.

If this is what she does in the open, it makes me wonder what rules she breaks behind closed doors. No wonder she takes lobbyists money. She's not for the People, by the People……. she's for the Clintons, by the Clintons.

Ron   May 22nd, 2008 5:48 pm ET

There is nothing wrong with the current system. This is simply an unusual year as there are two strong contenders. What I can't stomach is the fact that HillDog wants to stir the pot to change something she originally agreed to. She will continue with her self-serving efforts and the outcome will be severe damage to the DEM party. The party won't be pulled back together will a couple of months to the general election. She should be held accountable..the party is over for her.

Mary WA   May 22nd, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Definately need a new system. The DNC has really screwed this up and Clinton has been taking advantage of it all the way. She baited FL and MI into voting knowing she'd use it to upset the process if things didn't go her way.

David from Whittier, CA   May 22nd, 2008 5:49 pm ET

I totally agree. They should start with the caucuses, though — get rid of them and put back plain simple primaries. Then it would be a cinch to just record the popular vote tallies every primary season. They don't have to worry about ANY delegates, pledged or super!

Tyler   May 22nd, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Everyone wants to scrap the electoral college system, why would we change the primary system to something that no one likes?

George   May 22nd, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Not only the delegate system, but they should also revamp the entire primary system. All nomination contest should be caucus only and limited to registered Democrats. This would prevent the Republicans from crossing over in an attempt to influence the outcome of the Democratic contest. The Primary is an intramural contest and does not disenfrnchise anyone being excluded by party affiliation. The current process is unnecessarily long and far too expensive. It should never take in excess of $500 million to select the nominees for president.

Steven Dison   May 22nd, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Ann, I can't believe that you've fallen into clinton's rhetoric. First off, she's not "more electable." He'll win those "swing states" that she keeps boasting. And if you're fine with Hillary winning because of racist voters and Operation Chaos republicans than I don't think the democratic party wants your vote anyway.

So, I find it hard to believe that she's deserving of the nomination.

GOOGLE PAUL V. CLINTON

FLIP-FLOPPING ON NAFTA

LYING ABOUT THE POPULAR VOTE

KEEPING HER NAME ON THE BALLOT IN MI

20+ MILLION IN DEBT

Obama has at least spoken about his scandals, but clinton just acts as if they never happened. But I urge you, please google "Paul v. Clinton"

It's very interesting that she might go to jail and that no news sites have ever mentioned it. That's partially due to the clinton's keeping it low.

A Latte Lover, Seattle, WA   May 22nd, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Ann - Hillary is the only democrat deserving of the nomination…

Now that is one of the funniest statements I have read yet. Hillary should win the nomination because she deserves it???? UGH

I do think this whole delegate thing should be changed before 2012.

NOBILLARY ever

Justice   May 22nd, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Who cares?

Obama is a legend in his own mind. I'm not worried, he's not going to win in November anyway.

Lisa   May 22nd, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Who's idea was it to have a primary season that runs through June if all they are going to do is complain that it ends too close to the August convention? I think all states should have the opportunity to weigh in. I don't think any candidate should be bullied into dropping out of the race until the last vote is counted. With that being said, move the end of the primary season up to the end of April if it's such a problem, but for this year and this election - quit whining about it or blaming one candidate for hanging on until the end of the primary period.

kelly WI   May 22nd, 2008 5:53 pm ET

The system is something out of the 1800s. We have communications now days. Don't need delegates to choose the nominee.
This has been a farce from the beginning. The dem. establishment is tired of the Clintons and want them gone. They have been grooming obamma since 04.
The left stream media has been gushing and pushing Obama at us for months.
The Supers were invented to make sure "the right" person got the nom.

Chris _ Hemet, Ca.   May 22nd, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Scrap the superdelegates, keep the pledged delegates won and shorten the primary season.

noemi in los angeles   May 22nd, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Listen, ALL THE WAY TO DENVER, Obama is not against them re-voting, it's the party rules and the leaders. It's the FL and MI state election officials who are to blame for this mess. If you think that Hillary REALLY cares about "counting every single vote", she would not have signed the agreement to rule out FL and MI votes and now to want to rule out the caucus votes.

She's not for the People, by the People…..
She's for the Clintons, by the Clintons.

Let's face it.

Ben   May 22nd, 2008 5:55 pm ET

I write this stuff because its kind of therapy even if you do not print it.
I have been a republican all my life. I even voted for Bush the first time. I did not vote for him the second time.The democrats nominated the only man on the planet who could not beat bush. So four years more of destucting my country.
This time the democrats have an exiting inspiring candidate in Obama. What will this stupid party do? They will screw their chances up again. They seem to revel in defeat!

mt   May 22nd, 2008 5:56 pm ET

the entire nomination system is no good, the entire voting system is not good. Please, come up with something better, effective and fair to all - candidates and voters. What is going on now is very discouraging, disturbing.
One feels like no fairness is out there, that our voices are being twisted, that there are intrigues etc. Feels foul as of now. Whom can we trust?

I do purely hate all this humbuk around, all this forcing, speeches, hype, shows, money wasting, people's minds brainwashed, dirt being thrown to opposition, no respect for older, wiser, for anyone …….
it is a mess, chaos! How can we trust? Whom to trust? The media is making a soap opera, reality show from elections.

It is not good for anyone. Everyone from the supporters thinks he/she has the right to criticize others, that their opinions are the right ones, Oh, my, how to get out of this mess?

Let everyone vote, then count the votes. Forget superdelegates and all those complicated ways - they make it worse and not accurate.
Bye bye politics. I - we want to live our lives the best we can.

I am so tired and repulsed by this whole process, by the mean, nasty words I read in blogs. I am tired of brainwashed people.

Donna   May 22nd, 2008 5:56 pm ET

What a farce and shame the DNC is. I am mad as you know what that Mi and Fl was ever told that their votes would not count in the primary if they did not go by the DNC rules. What kind of country are we living in anyway??? I should not matter who goes first just so long as all states vote prior to convention. If all votes are not counted in MI and Fl I will not vote Democratic ticket in November and I am not alone. I does not matter who the nominee is it does matter if the votes are counted.

Jonf   May 22nd, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has made politics a more disgusting process that I have ever seen before. I cannot believe the people of this country even come close to buying the garbage she spews at the press and the electorate.

She has probably accomplished the unthinkable - to run the election, to ruin the part, to ruin all of it.

EC   May 22nd, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Wolf -

I think the Super Delegates are a waste of time and energy. When you give people any level of power, their egos get in the way of their basic common sense.

These Super Dummies are acting like they are GOD right now, they are holding out for what? What?

Sen. Obama only needs 61 more pledged delegates and he's going to get that easily from the next primary. So why would the Super Delegates even matter at that point?

Cut them loose, I say GET RID OF THESE FOOLS and LET'S GET BACK TO A SIMPLE "LET THE PEOPLE VOTE" BASIS!!!

We're giving the Super Delegates too much credit, much more than they deserve. Jesus enough already.

OGirl   May 22nd, 2008 5:57 pm ET

How can any Democrat argue for "Rules" that disenfranchise any voter? Didn't we fight long and hard enough to make sure African_Americans and others had the right to vote? How can we now say that people in Florida and Michigan can't have their votes counted. Just because they were "rules? Isn't the right answer to change "rules" that disenfranchise any voter. I can understand that maybe the primaries that were held in January were not fair (with Obama not even being on the ballot in Michigan), but isn't the Democratic (and right) response to hold new primaries, Obama vs. Clinton, head to head? EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND TO HAVE THEIR VOTE COUNTED!!! If the rules say no, change the rules!!!

Ed   May 22nd, 2008 5:58 pm ET

As an Independent - I was leaning away from the GOP this year and toward the Democrats - but the perception I have now is of a party that can not even establish and follow a set of rules for selecting a delegate.

The farm bill fiasco of the past couple days hasn't helped that image.

How can changing the rules in the middle of the game be justified? Why couldn't these "bright folks" establish a workable set of rules up front? The only justification I can see for changing the rules now is purely political. The people who are Democrats in Michigan and Florida should be axing their party leaders for the poor judgement that has kept their votes from counting. Instead there is a wimpy tiptoeing around the fairness issue for fear of alienating the rule breakers in these states.

In my opinion, it will be Independents who decide who the next president will be. Most of us will vote for a Democrat or Republican for lack of a viable alternate choice. In my opinion, the Democrats may do more to win the election in November by growing some backbone and standing up to the rule breakers in their own party then by pandering. This independent is frustrated with the softness of the Democratic party.

Scott Glenn in Wa   May 22nd, 2008 5:58 pm ET

I have taught my children that they cannot just change the rules of a game just to please themselves, and they understand that it is their integrity that is at stake (they are 9 and 11 years old). Lets all hold HRC and McCrutch to the same standard! For our country's sake, for our children’s sake, for our sake, for gods sake, stand up for what’s right and vote for a president who will do the same!
Barack Obama

Chris in Va.   May 22nd, 2008 5:59 pm ET

The media is responsible for continuing to give coverage to this insane woman. By giving her coverage you are just promoting her insanity. Wouldn't air time be best used by not covering her irrelevant campaign and covering canidates of other parties and their positions?

Cindi South Carolina   May 22nd, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Not until this election is over, then they can go back and revisit the idea. This is a way for the Clinton's to have their way.

Tony   May 22nd, 2008 6:00 pm ET

If you win the state, you should receive all the delegates. Anything else is crazy.

I did not get a chance to vote. My state is a caucus state and I HAD TO WORK. My party took away my chance to vote.

marldeml   May 22nd, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Yes, superdelagates needs to go. Replace the stupid caucuses with Winner Take All primaries. After all life is Winner Take All not awarding trophies to runner ups.

Elisabeth   May 22nd, 2008 6:01 pm ET

DNC = DON´T KNOW CLINTON?

Nando, Florida   May 22nd, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Its funny how when we started last year none of this bullcrap was of Concern??? BUT NOW THAT HILLARY AND PYSCO ARE LOOSING WE ALL HAVE TO HEAR THIS NAGGING CRYING GAME>

HILLARY YOU LOST BE A BIG GIRL AND SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stephanie, Washington   May 22nd, 2008 6:02 pm ET

Yes, they should get rid off superdelegate, winner-take call , no caucus only primaries or popular votes.

Kristian   May 22nd, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Notice how Wolfie never bought this up when Clinton was ahead in the superdelegate count? Now that Obama has close to 30 more than Clinton he's suddenly crying out wolf (sorry for the bad pun).

YES WE CAN ! (Kissimmee, FL)   May 22nd, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Stop being so Spiteful, Hillary !!!!

CONCEDE ALREADY !!!

another senerio   May 22nd, 2008 6:05 pm ET

you do know that it is totaly possible that the dnc could decide in the convention that neither of the 2 are electable, and nominate someone like Edwards to run in the general election.

A Girl from SC   May 22nd, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Superdelegates were to support the best candidate.

Personally if they did independent thinking and not be swayed by their state, this might work.

Judy   May 22nd, 2008 6:05 pm ET

The system is flawed and I don't know whose fault it is, but seriously when you have 4000 votes cast in Maine with a popualtion of 1.3 million it's a joke. I 've seen Homecoming Queen contests with more voter participation.

linda-Texas   May 22nd, 2008 6:06 pm ET

The DNC's primary election process is incredibly flawed and has made a complete mess of this primary election.

mt   May 2