May 22, 2008
Posted: 01:00 PM ET

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Protestors picketed the DNC last month to push for full delegate slates for Florida and Michigan.
Protestors picketed the DNC last month to push for full delegate slates for Florida and Michigan.

(CNN) — Supporters of Hillary Clinton are planning to swarm the capital in a little over a week to pressure Democratic Party leaders as they gather to decide the fate of the Florida and Michigan delegations.

The Committee to Count Every Vote – a project of Hillary Responders – said Thursday it was organizing a day-long May 31 rally outside the hotel where members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee are planning to meet that day.

“It is essential that everyone who can meets in Washington that day to rally for our cherished democratic principles, help enfranchise MI and FL and to show that Hillary has equal numbers of passionate, devoted supporters who believe fervently, notwithstanding any math, that she will the better general election candidate and best president,” they wrote in a message posted on the group’s Web site.

“Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama. Michigan and Florida, however, in addition to Hillary's strong support nationwide, cannot and must not be dismissed in DNC efforts to unify the party.”

The group said it was organizing buses to carry protestors to the meeting site, and could offer some overnight housing for those who could not afford to pay for accommodations.

Over the weekend, Clinton told a group of bloggers who support her candidacy that she encouraged efforts to lobby the committee on that day.

“I thank you for zeroing in on the May 31 meeting. There will be a lot of activity around that meeting,” she said on a conference call, adding that it was “important your voices are heard” by DNC members.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton


KiloWhiskey   May 22nd, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Get it out of your mind that she's willing to be vice-president, not a chance. She wants it all, and in true Clinton fashion she doesn't care what it take to get it!

bill in pa   May 22nd, 2008 2:31 pm ET

With any luck this will successfully run the Clintons out of national politics forever. I rarely agree with Republicans but it seems they had it right with these two egomaniacs.

CW in DC   May 22nd, 2008 2:31 pm ET

The DNC needs to release the paperwork that has Hillary Clinton's signature on it saying that Michigan and Florida would not be seated. That will kill all this noise real quick!!

Debby   May 22nd, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Did you ever think Clinton didn't think so many voters were going to turn out to vote. She isn't fighting for thousands she is fighting for millions. She still loses because Dean wants Obama in and he is pressing and swaying the stupids for his nomination. Dean is the reason for the division not Clinton. The diehard Clinton supporters aren't going to vote Obama in Nov. anyway so let them swarm Washington to make 50 states count. In this case rules should be broken when you had millions of voters at the polls.

libby   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Ok where do I get on the bus??? Orlando, FL??

Francesca   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

To every super delegate of the Democratic Party,

Please think long and hard about the simple choice you now have to make:

1) Choose to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Party’s nominee and watch her become the first woman to be elected President of the United States.

or

2) Choose to endorse Barack Obama and watch the first African American nominee of the Democratic Party lose in the general election.

Hillary Clinton will win against John McCain in the states that the Democratic Party needs to win in order to reach 270 electoral votes in the general election.

Obama won’t.

It’s that simple.

Hillary Clinton has been the best candidate in this long primary election, is by far more competent to run against the Republicans in the general election, and is infinitely more qualified to be President of the United States than is Barack Obama.

Endorsing Barack Obama, a relatively unknown candidate with a thin resume who has lost nearly every large state and swing state to Hillary Clinton in the primaries by large margins, is a huge gamble at best.

Please don’t gamble with our futures.

HILLARY CLINTON ’08

Zoey   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

I just can't believe Clinton is bringing down the entire democratic party. She is going to cry, kick, and scream until she gets her way. I'm sure if the roles were reversed, she wouldn't care about Florida.

Oh I forgot, that already happened. Last year when she was well in the lead, she didn't even care about MI and Florida. She is a liar and a flip-flopping nutcase. I would NEVER vote for Hiliary. If she steals this election, I swear I will vote for Ralph Nader.

Hawaii Bob   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

As usual, Hillary thinks that she is so entitled that the rules only apply to other people.

I'm sorry, but I am just so sick of this egotistic, self-involved woman who really doesn't give a rat's behind about the democratic party. It's her or nothing.

It's enough to make me want to lose my lunch.

Go anybody BUT Hillary.

GW   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Parental sage wisdom comes to mind, "Figures Don't Lie But
Liars Do Figure." Agreed upon rules must stay in place.

Ron, LV   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

This sounds just like what the Republicans did in FL. to stop the recount. This just sends the message that rules people agree to do not matter when it comes to political ambition. How can you count votes where only one candidate was on the ballot and that candidate stated publicly that the votes in that state would not count? This is the same old politics and smacks of dictatorship.Hillary and some of her supporters will bring the party down to try and meet their own needs instead of that of the nation.

SayNOtoHillary   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

The DNC should kick out this Evil woman from the Democratic Party Karl Rove is working for her why does's she switch to the Republican party we sure don't want her. She is Evil and cursed by God.

Everett Alexander   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Michigan and Florida defied the DNC and held their primaries earlier than allowed. They have to accept the consequences. Other than Clinton, the other candidates did not include their names on the ballot in deference to the DNC's ruling. For Clinton to claim victory in a race where she was the only horse running is ridiculous.

To Michigan, Florida and Clinton: suck it up! You thumbed the DNC and now want to be rewarded for it. Grow up and move on.

golden boy   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

OBAMA+WRIGHT+FARRAHKAN = CHANGE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
Obama even can't speak English properly. For instance, he keeps saying " John McCain don't vote for that" , and what is wrong with this sentence? The proper English should state like this" John McCain DOESN'T vote for that".
The black people always use the race card for their advantage in any scenario. Therefore, all people in USA should kowtow to them. For instance, if Mr. NOTHING SENATOR OBAMA isn't elected as President of USA, every stupid American will be saying that he is discreminated. So, why should we have the election to seek for the best candidate? Just make Mr. OBAMA the President of USA. He is qualified or not. It doesn't matter because if he is not elected everybody will be blamed for discrimination. Such idiot country and idiot citizens.
USA is a sinful country.

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

It's called the "Million White Women March."

That's OK. Obama is ready to play "Let's Make A Deal."

Unfortunately, Hillary will be hiding behind door number 1.

Dayzed and Confused for you   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Will you people just give up. The only way she will win is if she pulls a GWB and steals this election. I am tired of the white voters denouncing Barack as the frontrunner. You are all pathetic. We are still living in the days of 20th century where whites believed they were better then blacks and it is proof that it still goes on. Hillary and Bill were very important in the 90's with civil rights but now they are seeking the otherside because they have that luxury to be white. Look at W.V. How can you still be a bigot in this day and age. You white Americans need to figure out who you are and live with it instead of plaguing us all with your hatred.

John Doe   May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm ET

I don't think Hillary and her supporters are true Democrats they are behaving like a third world country electing a president.SHAME SHAME SHAME.

Bag Lady   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

I'll be so happy when the superdelegates get off their bums and end this madness!! They keep pacifying Hillary and I'm not understanding it. It's so obvious and sickening!

FL/MI shouldn't have broken the rules. In 2012, if other states decide to move their dates, then what? You cannot reward breaking the rules. That's what's wrong with our society now. Goodness!

QuietStormX   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Sounds like sore losers to me. Hillary Clinton is losing the race because she ran a dysfunctional campaign. There are rules Hillary agreed to. Now she is begging hook & crook for Michigan and Florida that were disqualified. There are DNC Rules to follow not Hillary Clinton rules and math…. I will never think of the Clinton's fondly again after this nomination.

I don't care what Hillary supports want. She better not be on Barack's ticket for the General Election. Plus some Hillary supporter is out of the question!

Just get out and go away….

Washington, D.C.

FEDUP   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Mike D.. Are you threating to riot if Obama is not the nominee? Either way, there will be riots. Look at the Cowboy celebration that turned to looting. It is to be expected. Why does it always turn to breaking windows and looting? Please explain that to me?

GERIATIC   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

WOW!!! NOW HILLARY IS ENDORSING RADICAL ACTION, SWARMING?
THIS CRAZED WOMAN WOULD LEAD THE COUNTRY INTO A CIVIL WAR, JUST TO GET HER WAY. CRAZY, LOCO CUCKOO, PAZZA, FOLLE,VERRUCKT, BATTY,MESHUGENEH.

Mark Arnone   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

The voters in Michigan and Florida have the American right to be heard! Has the Democratic Party forgot how to win a Presidential election?

Count the votes! People voted!

Anonymous   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

The devisiveness is hurting the party. Reach a compromise of MI and FL and end this thing ASAP. The party needs to pull itself together behind our nominee for the fight against John McCain.

Amal Gabriel   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Please don't punish the Florida and Michigan voters by not counting their votes. The MI and FL voters had nothing to do with changing the rules, they did not vote for these rules.

We strongly believe that all votes must be counted in FL and MI.

Also, we can't also believe that the super delegtes are supporting Obama.

Obama is a great speaker but he does not have the experience to handle the toughest job in the world. This position is a very critical job to all Americans.

Please talk to the remaining super delegates and hopefully they will come to their senses and make the right decision for the American people. This position is not about how good you speak but what kind of actions you can take to improve the mess that Bush left for all of us.

If Obama had Hillary' s experiences we will have no problem voting for him. At this point we rather vote for McCain than vote for Obama.

lucy A.Brister   May 22nd, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Rules are rules. To change them now shows dishonesty. Something America doesnt need.It also shows favoritism.America and the world are watching.

Dennis in IA   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Criminals always try break the rules and try to get away with it and plead innoncent! They agreed to the rules and now say they did not fully understand them – just like voting for authorization of the war but saying that she didn't fully read the document. What goes around comes around Hillary. I was once a loyal support of you and Bill but no longer! We need truth and honesty in out President and you do not possess either! The candidate with the most delegates win right? Well you certainly are far behind in that! Only those people that are still stuck in Hillaryland only vote for you! No 2 Clinton for 1. Time for Change. Barack does not need to be worrying about what you and Bill are doing everday! Go back to Arkansas, New York or wherever you claim residency and live out our lifes in quiet peace!

ES NYC   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Hillary is staging a political 'revolt' and expects with the help of the media to reflect the image in America's mind of a fighting force willing to take the streets…Dangerous and inconsiderate.
The Clinton camp is now arguing now that Michigan votes toward Clinton should count and Obama should get 0 or none of the uncommited votes.

Fighting to steal the nomination is the new Clinton 'moral' stand…Disgusting !

Davind King   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

These are the craziest fools in the world. Hillary has some kinda hold on a person that will storm Washington on their holiday weekend. And for what? If we count all the votes, of all the states, including cacus states, HILLARY STILL LOST! This is a hypocritical gesture of HRC and the brat pack.

Hillary and her stupid, dumb, uneducated, racist pack….

I HATE THAT *#)%^!!!!!!!

sh   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Nothing surprises me anymore. Where are the party elders and supers, why don's they step in and stop the splitting of Dems. Plain desaster for Dems in Novvember. Republicans will be lauging to the White house. No wonder Dems have lost the White house to Bush because they have made sure they run a smart campaign and get on with General elections. I will be another Dem staying home if this goes on because it is hopeless to see Dems making sure they give away the white house again to republicans. WHERE ARE THE SUPERS, WAKEUP AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE PARTY. DON GO ON THE TV SHOWS AND SAY EVERYTHING IS HUNCKY DORY BECAUSE COME ELCTION TIMES SUPERS WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS IF WE DEMS DONOT WIN IN NOV.

jim t   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

the voters of both states KNEW that their votes wouldnt count, typical clinton supporters to whine and complain just like their candidate, all of em are republicans

jt   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Hillary has been fighting the media, the DNC and the Obama people at the same time.

With all the help that Obama is getting, Hillary still beat him on the popular votes. How is that? Well people does not really want Obama shove to their throat.

Hillary is not a bully, she is just fighting back.

Hillary is the best candidate.

ShirleyY - Seattle   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

HOW SHAMEFUL OF HILLARY AND HER SUPPORTERS, KNOWING BOTH STATES AND HILLARY KNEW THE PENALTY OF THIS SITUATION. THE PLAN IS TO TAKE THE NOMINEE FROM OBAMA. I AM A BLACK WOMAN, IF THIS HAPPENS, YOU WILL START A RACE WAR AND MCCAIN WILL END UP BEING PRESIDENT. SORRY TO SOUND RACIAL,BUT HILLARY AND HER SUPPORTERS ACTIONS ARE NOT ABOUT COUNTING VOTES, IT'S ABOUT RACE, HILLARY DO NOT WANT TO CONCEDE BECAUSE OBAMA IS BLACK AND HER SUPPORTERS DO NOT WANT A BLACK MAN FOR PRESIDENT. I AM SURE IT'S HARD FOR YOU ALL TO SLEEP AT NIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE EVIL IN YOUR HEART, PRAY FOR REPENTANCE ASK GOD TO HELP YOU TO OVERCOME YOUR RACIAL BARRIER.

AZM   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

The party is very polarized at this point.
It's visible on the boards… people are so upset with the other side it will effect the general election. This is true on both sides although I must admit the Obama side has become more and more venomous. I can truely see many democrats refusing to vote, voting for McCain or writting in Hillarys name simply out of anger at the other side.

This could be bad for the party… I see no positive that can come from this primary.

Anna   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

She is inciting this, blaming Obama for something he had nothing to do with. She is using these poor people.
This should send a signal to all the Obama supporters that it is time to fight back.

Adam, Los Angeles   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Go ahead, count the votes. She still won't win. And if you indeed, "count all the people" make sure you include all the caucus states too; you would want to be hypocritical and disenfranchise those states, would you?

Cody -- Illinois   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

They asked Hillary not to accept racists votes. Did they ask Obama not to accept votes from sexists and misogynists?

Obama pulled out of MI by his own free will-a mistake that shows how unprepared he is to run a country.

Dave   May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm ET

wow, ridiculous. The lady agreed to the rules and wants them to be bent/broken for her when before she cared nothing about these peoples votes being counted. Only when she got her tail kicked by Obama did she suddenly care about this issue. We just don't need any more Clintons or any more of the Bush family in the white house. these globalists have done enough damage as it is.

ALL THE WAY TO DENVER   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

No Judi from Minnesota…

Get off the Cool-Aid…

Obama and the all boys club from the DNC will be the ones to blame. Obama should have never blocked the revotes in MI and FL.

WE LIVE IN AMERICA (STILL A DEMOCRACY?) EVERY VOTE COUNTS!

IF OBAMA DOES NOT BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY, THEN HE DOES NOT NEED TO BE PRESIDENT. GOD HELP US!

Hillary 08… Take it to the convention baby!

Rick in Florida   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Debra1953……..the first person to "contac" is an educator to teach you (and most of Hillary's supporters) how to SPELL. After that, you can learn to READ. Then after that maybe you can begin to UNDERSTAND how deceitful and manipulative your wonderful Hillary really is.

Sherri   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

For me Hillary Clinton's integrity is at stake. She agreed to abide by the rules of the DNC that were established in August of 2006. Florida and Michigan decided to go against the rules, with full knowlege of the consequences. Now we have Clinton and her supporters rallying around not in defense of FL and MI, but in their own interest, demonstrating a tremendous lack of moral fiber. Barack Obama and John Edwards did not appear on the Michigan ballot. Hillary set this scenario up from the beginning.

Voters of MI and FL should take it up with their local officials. That is where their beef lies. Why do we have rules if they are manipulated to suit the wind direction of the day. I don't want a leader like this in the White House. Shame on Hillary Clinton.

Caryn, Washington DC   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Hillary Clinton agreed to the terms set by the DNC concerning Michigan and Florida when she thought that the votes there didn't matter. Now that she's losing, she wants to stand up for the disenfranchised…PLEASE!

Hillary Clinton agreed to the terms…be a woman of your word.

HSNP   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Hillary has been railroaded enough by Obama and his supporters. It's time to push back!!!!!!

tony, Mount Vernon, NY   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

It's about time Hillary supporters start to stand up. Counting FL and MI Hillary has the popular vote according to ABC. It's a shame the way the media, including CNN, are treating her. CNN should have their own tally of the popular vote in their Election Center. Also, today Sen. Clinton got another super delegate and there's no mention of it on this toicker, yet almost every new super delegate for Obama over the past few weeks has gotten an individual item here and sometimes even their picture is posted. Everyone should watch HBO's Original Movie Recount this weekend and know that the same thing is happening again today, only this time the DNC is doing it to one of their own. America won't stand for it! If the DNC truly wants to unite the party here's a novel idea, why not listen to the people who voted and let us pick our own nominee. Face it, more of us voted for Hillary yet the so-called candidate of change is using the system and the support of politicians to be the nominee. How is that change?

Stevo   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

I could see the Clinton's attempting to steal the election.

Count Fl and MI and the Caucuses voters as well.

Dawn, give Hill/Bill the VP slot.

Hiilary may win the Hillbillies and some white votes but she would be

terrible to unite the party and the global world as a whole.

She would be disrespected.

Toni - Atlanta   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

I say go for it — Hillary supporters have that right. However, I guarantee you this will not win Hillary the nomination. If anything, it makes her chances of ever becoming President this year, 2012 or beyond slim to nil!

Morgan, Canada   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Obama supporters, who didn't vote because they were told that THEIR VOTES WON'T COUNT, should do the same thing.

Heavens, those Clintons are just aweful people! And their supporters, SERIOUSLY? Do you NOT see how this is unethical?

SLO Bear   May 22nd, 2008 2:27 pm ET

This Clintonian hideousness is far more Bush in 2000 than Gore.

kwesi   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Rules are rule, this is nonsense.I hope DNC is not Clinton's property.
Where in the world that Clinton have to equate our election to that of Zimbabue.Can those critizing Michelle Obama see something patriotic here? Yes! That was the question .May God bless America.

Diane Keichinger   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

HILLARY IS A FRAUD, WHERE WAS SHE WHEN THEY WERE STOPPING BLACK FROM VOTING IN INDIANA BECAUSE OF THE ID
THING, SHE SAID NOTHING. SHE DID WORRY ABOUT FLORIDA UNTIL SHE GOT BEHIND. SHES WINNING IN SWING STATES BECAUSE SHE INSIGHTING RACE INTO THE CAMPAGINE, AND
SEXISM. SHE A VERY POWERFUL WOMEN AND THERE ARE MANY POWERFUL WOMEN SO GET OF THE WOMEN THING BECAUSE BEFORE TO ONG WHITE ARE COING TO CATCH ON AND SHES
GOING TO OSE THEM THEN WHAT. SHE IS ASO GOT WOMEN GOING AROUND ACTING LIKE FOOL FIGHTING WITH THEIR HUSBANDS OVER HER, I KNOW 10 COUPLES ON THE BRINK OF DIVORCE BECAUSE OF THIS EECTION. HIIARY A FRAUD AND SHE IS HURTING AMERICA.

Argentine_Holdout   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

The best solution would be a revote in Michigan & Florida. Then we would see, who is the best candidate.

GERALD STROTHER   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

For you Clinton voters, you got beat fair and square. All you are doing is destroying the Party and be asured that John McCain will be the next President. I didn’t vote for Hillary but if she beats Obama in a fair contest, follows the rules ,you can beat I would vote for her. So here it is, if Hillary voters that got beat fair & square, and can not support Obama because he won by following the rules, then ya’ll have succeeded and destroyed the Demo Party and John will be the next President. Sad situation isn’t it!???!!!you havent seen anything yet if obama is denied this nomination…AND SHE She signed a pledge and stated that Florida and Michigan wouldn't count AGAIN NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SZ   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

I love how the Obama supporters are now all about "the rules" and "the math." Before, it was about "hope," "change," and some kind of "movement" that would sweep the country and convert all the nay-sayers. These are two very different types of "victory"–and you can't spin it both ways.

If Obama wins now, it will be because of rules and math, *not* because he's some kind of visionary leader. His candidacy has been dramatically re-defined. Interesting.

Alice in Florida May 22nd, 2008 2:06 pm ET   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Shame on you

Sheena - Kingston   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

This woman cares nothing for her party, her country or her supporters.
As a white woman I am embarrased and disgusted by her actions and her attitude.
She SIGNED a declaration under no pressure stating M and F would not count – she also said they made no difference—-right up until she realized she may well loose the nomination!!!
I cannot believe that her supporters are so easily manipulated and are so gullible. If she cannot run her campaign without running up 20million in debt, how can you expect financial responsibility when she runs the countries economy.
And if she is so willing to manipulate and use you now – just wait if she becomes President.

The whole thing is digusting.

George   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

I can see a repeat of 2000 GE, the decisions are still being cocerning FL and MI. Obama is already searching for a running mate, just like Bush was selecting his cabinet while the votes were still being counted in FL. SHAME.

Jana Delray Bch, Fl   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

There is a full page ad in the Boca Raton News in Boca Raton, Fla.

It was put in by "The National Women's Committee of The Republican
Jewish Coalition" In Today news

The Ad that was put in reads as follows

1. In an interview Obama called for a summit of Muslim nations, including Iran and Syria, but excluding Israel.

2. One of Obama's top advisors, Tony McPeak, plcaed blame on Miami and NY Jews for the failure of the Middle East peace process,
yet he still remains with Obama as a top advisor.

3. Obama was a board member of a foundation that funded, during his tenure, the Arab American Action Network, a pro-Palestinian
organization.

The Jewish people, republician or democratic are never going to support Obama, if Clinton is not on the ticket they will vote for McCain.

Jack Cafferty may not accept this as fact, but wait until the republicians
win Florida.

CNN I HOPE YOU PRINT THIS

Really Hillary?   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Heck, Puerto Rico can't even vote in the presidential election.

Hillary is off her rocker, and I think she and McCain should go to a retirement home and get some rest.

It's just years of living with a lying, cheatin' husband. Her brain cells just don't work the same.

Oh well….fasten your seatbelts folks, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Ernesto Lopez   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Now I have no doubt, the best choice for America is The Republican nominee, Democrats seem to have no values nor respect for rules and they are getting more divisive than ever.

GL   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

What's the point? Even counting them, the end result will be the same- President Obama.

This is not pee-wee soccer where everyone gets a trophy for participating. This is real life with winners and losers. You don't get to change the rules as we go along just because you don't like the current results.

Hillary, you lost. Stop wasting everybody's time and money on this futile endeavor. If you really want to teach my daughter something important- concede with dignity and be a lady for once.

kcinferndale   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Who would have won Iowa if the candidates had not campaigned there? (Hillary)
Who would have won Iowa if the only Democratic candidate that appeared on the ballot was Hillary? (HIllary)
Campaigning could have made huge differences in Florida and Michigan. The 'results' that exist now are drastically flawed. I am from Michigan and did vote uncommitted to express my endorsement of Obama but my 'Obama' vote will not count.
What a mess. The only real way to settle this is to hold primaries after the candidates have campaigned in each state and have their names appear on the ballot (not gonna' happen). So FL and MI should remain without influence as originally agreed upon by all candidates (Hillary included). Give each candidate 50% of the delegates.
Hillary or Obama deserve no more and no less. The effect of being able to campaign could change EVERYTHING as it did in Iowa!

Jan   May 22nd, 2008 2:26 pm ET

This is getting a little wierd!!! Be careful, If Barack Obama is denied the nomination …at this point, the Dems could be in big trouble. Be very careful!!

pittsburgh bob   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

it is ridiculous that this movement has come this far and even been given consideration. Fl and MI were out from the start, period. everyone giving the impression that changing the rules now is ok need to wake up. while you're at it why not count arkansas and new york a few more times. this is just as wrong as seating Fl and MI.

Tammy - KCMO   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

DNC – it is time to do your job to end this nightmare. Count the votes but make it fair to both parties.

Next job: Shut Clinton up! I'm tired of hearing about her and her fuzzy math. A 4 year old could do a better job of counting. You've lost, GET OVER IT!! No matter how many times you change the way you count and which states you include/exclude and how many times you move the goal posts – YOU'VE STILL LOST!!!

DNC – STOP THE MADNESS BEFORE NO ONE WILL VOTE FOR EITHER NOMINEE!

Matt   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

I am an avid Democrat and an Obama supporter in this election..however I would definitely support Hillary Clinton if, by the small chance, she was granted the nomination. If Hillary would like to see "the country that she loves so much" spiral further out of control under the ridiculous foreign and domestic debauchery that has been the Bush Administration and will be that of Bush 3.0, Sen. McSame…She has to stop this. She is dividing a party that is poised for capturing the White House…and driving voters into the arms of the GOP. This has to stop. GIVE UP to save us from 4-8 years of the same old crap….the same crap that has destroyed our standing in the world over the past 50 years.

Zion   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

If Hillary wins the nomination, as a young democrat president, I will make sure that the Democratic Party becomes a minor party by leading the African American voting block to the Republican Party.

Chris   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Obama and his cult are running scared. Read these comments.

Like polls have been saying Obama can not win the General Election.

Without Hillary, Obama nuts are going to destroy our party!

Oh my God   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Shame on you, Clinton, shame on you!
You do not care about the party or people.

Supporters of HRC, please, open your eyes. Clinton is using you. Do not be fool!

raf   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

I think the "notwithstanding any math" clause is especially funny and appropriate.

I'm an Obama supporter, and I still think the best way would be for a revote in both states, with Michigan paying for theirs (since it was the state party's fault) and maybe private funding for Florida's (since it was the Republican-controlled Legislature's fault).

But I have to ask: When Hillary and her supporters say they should count every vote, why doesn't that include the caucus states when she's tallying up the popular votes? And why is it okay for supers to overturn the will of those same voters?

These two incredibly obvious questions have yet to be asked or answered.

lucy A.Brister   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Rules are rules. To change them in the middle of the race is dishonest. And America doesnt need that.

Terry   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is running around killing the chances for a democrat to be the next president while Barack Obama has to sit on his hands and send glowing compliments her way. This is absolutely rediculous and the fact that the party is letting her get away with this garbage is unbelievable on so many levels. Where is the backbone of the party?

Was Dem, Now Independent in Oregon   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

STATE OF TEXAS has the highest rate of state-sponsored executions.

Now they will be known for returning abused children to their "parents."

That abuse is RAPE, in case you don't know. State-sponsored RAPE of little kids, both girls and boys, made possible by the Texas Appeals Court in Austin, TX and carried out by these kids' own famiy members, including women.

linda   May 22nd, 2008 2:25 pm ET

This is a very, very sick woman. She has divided the Democratic party and someone should put a stop to her unethical ways. She is a terrible example to our young people.

steve dumford, Scotts valley ca.   May 22nd, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Maybe I can get something in here before all the Obama supporters start their vile, nasty, disrepectful rants towards Hillary. Why is it that you rarely see Hillary' supporters personally trashing Obama in these comment sections. I can't even repeat some of the names that she has been called and don't know how these comments get by the CNN
"moderaters" who are supposedly policing these sections. How sad. Everytime I read another vile comment like these it just furthers my resolve never to vote for Obama. Michigan and Florida should be counted. Even the screwed up DNC knows that. If they alienate the voters of these States, they may well loose them in November. Oh, and by the way, all you people who rant on calling Hillary a liar are convienently forgetting how when the Rev. Wright thing hit, Obama got out there and said he "Wasn't in the pews" trying to put across that he never heard these statements. I guess that's not a lie.

Mike from Westchester   May 22nd, 2008 2:24 pm ET

I believe that most everyone wants to allow the Michigan and Florida delegations to participate at the convention. However, it is pretty obvious that the goal of the Clinton supporters is to win the nomination, and this is an avenue toward that end. The solution must not unfairly advantage either candidate.

How do we know how many people would have come out and voted if they knew the results would be counted? What would the results have been had there been campaigning (Obama has closed gaps in every state he campaigned in)? How would Michigan have turned out if Obama's and Edwards' names were on the ballot (and don't say they pulled their names off – Hillary was supposed to and reneged on her pledge)? You can't use the votes as is – simply not a fair solution.

Florida and Michigan voters, you should know who stripped your delegates. The 29 – 1 vote included 12 key Clinton supporters, including Harold Ickes. The lone dissenting vote – by an Obama supporter.

Terry McAuliffe to Carl Levin when Levin said that Michigan was going to violate the DNC rules and move its convention. Levin had said, "You won't deny us seats at the convention."

McAuliffe, "Carl, take it to the bank. The will not get a credential. The closest they'll get will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules. If you want to call my bluff, Carl, you go ahead and do it."

From the book, "What a Party" by Terry McAuliffe

Nicole, Atlanta   May 22nd, 2008 2:24 pm ET

This is really a shame that this has gone so far. It is just beyond my comprehension how this woman can be trusted when she agreed that both of these states should be stripped of their delegates in the beginning when she thought that she didn't need them (because she was believed to be the front runner) and now that she is so far behind and needs them, she wants to feign like she is so concerned about their democratic rights. She thinks it's okay to just change the rules as you go along so long as it benefits her. I want to be optimistic that the Democratic party will unite after this is all over, but sometimes it seems like that just might not happen. Something tells me that after the conference on May 31 that Hilary and her supporters will still not be satisfied with the outcome and that we will not have a nominee until August which is entirely too late. There are two many things at stake here and this is just unfortunate.

Obama all the way..   May 22nd, 2008 2:24 pm ET

It would be fine to have a protest, without her involvement. But the sheer fact that she made contact with this group and encouraged it, shows yet again, that she will stop at nothing until the party is torn to shreds, whether she gets the nomination or not!!

This women is a lunatic!!!

SHE knew the consequences of Michigan and Florida moving the Primaries before, but she didn't think it was a problem…cause Super Tuesday was gonna gift wrap the nom for her!!

But now, she cares. Cares so much about the voice of the people!! What a bunch of bullsh@t!!

I never saw her out stumping, picketing or protesting about Florida votes being counted when Gore lost the election!!

She is not fooling anyone. She is going all the way to the convention with this. She won't compromise either. Oh, there will be compromises offered, but she won't be happy till she gets her way…..which is that she wants every vote to count FOR HER, even though Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan!!

Congrat's Hillary…you are about to make history!! You will make it impossible for the Democrats to win this November, even though with the current situation and the low approval rating of Dubya…it would otherwise have been a shoe-in for a Dem in November.!!

Great job. You should be proud!!

I live in and was born in the great state of NY…and I don't even want you back here representing me in NY when you are done. I never wanted you here to being with.

Pack your *carpetbag* and go back to Arkansas!!!

CHANGE= Future Generation   May 22nd, 2008 2:24 pm ET

THIS IS SUCH MESS I WISH HILLIARY WOULD STOP

Swiss in Canada   May 22nd, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Mollygonz:
No, Obama supporters should stay away! They have more stile and niveau….

JA Cook   May 22nd, 2008 2:24 pm ET

WHY SOME PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN DID NOT VOTE IN THE PRIMARY

CNN
October 9, 2007
"Five Democratic presidential candidates Tuesday sought to officially withdraw from Michigan's January 15 primary, rendering the event virtually insignificant."

We were told repeatedly that our votes would not count. How can they be counted now in any sort of fair and accurate manner?

If my voice is to be heard, if my vote is to be counted, HOW can it be done fairly?

LDAZ   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

I don't understand the Clinton supporters right now. I am so disappointed right now, because they really sound like ticked off Republicans. They seem to be taking this really personal. Is it worth dividing the party? My question is do any of these people have children? Have you thought about what their future will be like if we continue to act silly and lose to John McCain? It's really sad. Obama will win the swing states once they get to know him a little better.

HRC Supporter   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

THE PEOPLE didn't make the rules for Florida and Michigan, the legislators did~ IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT~ All those poor people did was go out and vote which is their constitutional RIGHT! Hillary and Obama may have agreed but the people didn't have a CHOICE!

Peter   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

TO THE SUPER DELEGATES PLEASE OPEN YOUR MIND; IF OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE DO NOT TAKE FOR GRANTED THE BLUE STATES AND THAT ALL THE DEMOCRATIC WILL VOTE DEMOCRATIC. MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHO IS THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE, THINK ABOUT WHO CAN WIN THE BIG SWING STATES.
HIILLARY IS THE MOST PREPARED AND QUALIFIED CANDIDATE, SHE IS A FIGHTER AND WE WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER.
HILLARY 08

Hillary Huckabee Romney McCain Rodham Clinton   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

And Obama's supporters are accused of drinking the koolaid? I think Hillary's supporters are much more cult-like than any I've ever witnessed in history; especially their adamant refusal to support the other Democratic candidate with very similar and sometimes identical policies and positions. I hope they are all ready to send their loved ones into battle in the Middle East and are willing support or have their remaining loved ones move in with them due to economic hardship. Oh well, amnesic Clinton cocktail drinkers are in a league of their own!

sheryl   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

Alice in Florida go suck an egg you have no common sense!!!!!

Obama 08/12!!

Act III, Scene V   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

This is not the election of 2000, no matter how much Hillary wants it to be. This is a contest about delegates, and she knows that.

Have you ever seen a play that would never end?

Bill   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

Hillary can't win she has too high a C factor.

John   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

This sounds like a Hillary Clinton version of the famous "Brooks Brothers riot" that the Republicans put on in 2000

Ken   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

What truly bothers me about this last-ditch effort on Clinton's part is that she and her campaign agreed to the DNC rules BEFORE the primary season began, when she presumed that she would coast the the nomination without any serious threat. Stated another way, she AGREED to disenfranchise the voters of Michigan and Florida when she didn't think their votes would matter anyways. both state parties knew exactly what the rules were, and what the consequences would be for breaking those rules, and they went ahead and broke rules anyways. Now that her campaign is dying a slow, agonizing death, she and her surrogates all cry foul, and are all of a sudden champions of the disenfranchised voters. We teach our children that you must play by the rules, and you can't change the rules as you go along simply to suit your needs at the time. If she can't play simple, clearly laid out rules in the primary season, how can we ever trust her or her campaign surrogates to run this country in a fair minded way, and not change the rules as they go along simply to get their way? What a shame that an adult would behave in such a childish manner. Shame on her and everyone who claims to be shocked at the disenfranchisement of the Michigan and Florida voters.

a german roman   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

hi folks,

greetings from germany.

if you can count, count!

what will the DNC-leaders do with the 237,762 uncommited votes =

40% (these are not for HRC) and the 5 % votes for outgoing candidates?

a question to HRC:

two candidates at least. one have in michigan 55 % for itselfs, and 45 % against them. What will you do with the 45 %, may you are the candidate that´s wasn't on the ballot?

give HRC the delegates: 86 (nearly 55 % of 157 delegates)
and give the other candidate 71 delegates (nearly 45 % of the votes against HRC) and let them free to decide over the nomination.

Do also in FL, and take the results. Both candidates was on the ballots.

If so, B.O. will winn the pledged delegates, the superdelegates, the states and the popular vote.

you will see, B.O. will catch the nomination.

Thats the way to count every vote.

good luck USA!

do us a favor for the people in europe and the entire world: let the bushes go out of here…. :-) thanks.

sb   May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm ET

She is a crude deceptive liar. The lowest form of a human being. Self serving and willing to destroy her party if she can't get what she wants. LIAR LIAR LIAR>

John in VA   May 22nd, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Since the DNC acted against FL and MI, Sen. Clinton has stated that she would do all she could to see those delegates seated–this is before 2008. Why was Obama's name still on the Florida ballot even though he asked for his name not to appear on the Michigan ballot?

BIFF, BIFFINGTON...   May 22nd, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Say one thing… "this is not to tear the party apart"

Do another… get your way .. or… TEAR THE PARTY APART

Clinton, Lieberman, Republicans………..

she is LITERALLY holding the party hostage….

Jeni   May 22nd, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Five Democrats withdraw from Michigan's January 15 primary; Sen. Clinton will not withdraw from Michigan primary, campaign says …

Since Clinton would NOT remove her name from the ballot when five others removed theirs from the against-the-rules primary, it is not clear to me how she expects to have any of the votes count. This woman would do or say ANYTHING to have her way or to create the 'popular vote'. Does she have any principles at all? I didn't think so……..

Drew   May 22nd, 2008 2:22 pm ET

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Since when has picketing or "swarming" ever worked? People, whether she is the better "general election" candidate or not, Barack Obama has won the most pledged delegates, the most states, the most superdelegates, and yes (going by the rules) the most overall votes. How can you not say he is our candidate? You claim that your intentions are true democracy in having the people of Michigan and Florida heard, but yet you also want the poeple's choice to be overturned by party officials (who, by the way, aren't buying into this crazy concept). This is hypocracy at its finest, ladies and gentlemen. Hillary was a strong candidate, but she underestimated Barack Obama and really shot herself in the foot by not having a strategy past Feb. 5, which lead to all the spontaneous negativity. Sorry, Clinton supporters, but Obama is going to be our nominee, and with your help, the next president of the United States. Lets get past this pety issue and come together to re-focus on the real goal: taking back the White House in november!

Miss Mary Mack   May 22nd, 2008 2:22 pm ET

You're playing right? You can't possibly be reporting the truth. A rally?

Ilene MI   May 22nd, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Take this away from Obama and there will be civil war. We DON'T want you Hillary. She wouldn't win MI if the vote was today. That is why she wants it so bad. It was not a fair vote and she knows it. She knows she couldn't carry MI today. Please God!! Make her go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter in Canada   May 22nd, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Hillary Clinton and her supporters are making a laughing stock out of the democratic process in the US. Is this the message you want to send to the world? Democracy is only democracy when it achieves a pre-determined outcome?
The entire world knows that Hillary Clinton signed an agreement regarding the illegitimacy of the FL and MI votes prior to the primaries. Would you or any world leader ever enter into an agreement with Hillary Clinton as President, knowing full well that she will abrogate any agreement if it suits her twisted sense of morality or fairness?
Hillary Clinton is divisive, polarizing, a liar and untrustworthy, plain and simple!
The US (and I do indeed admire many in the US greatly) is coming out looking like idiots in this whole process. The people of Florida are coming out looking particularly like a bunch of raving lunatics who do not have any conception of fairness, justice, democracy, the law or legal agreements!

Sly in Seattle   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

oh this should be fun to watch!

OBAMA 08!

josbam   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Really Ridiculous
Hillary is pathetic….Be the nominee or damage the party…I'am pretty sure the superdelegates will not let her pursue her fool ambition…the vote has bennorganised in 47 states and Obama has won…Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan.How can the dcn count that vote ? Even if dnc gives her 60 % of both Mi and FL,she will be behind obama in the number of delegates and popular vote..

Hillary ,please drop..you are just helping MCCain…hillary cannot win..
Ridiculous…
Superdelagates are watching this crazyness …they have to make up their mind right now and endorse the candidate who got the majority of delegates..that is what the rukes said…

Joe from PA   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Great! a bunch of feminist losers in one spot. No place in the world I'd rather be; except of course in the fiery pits of hell being forced to eat tack nails.

I've Been Cheated, Been Mistreated...   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

I've been cheated, been mistreated
When will I……..find love?

While she's there could she explain why she wants all the delegates when Barack's name wasn't even on the ballot. Oh, I forget, that means she has to think of someone other than herself. Whatever.

Bill, just hug your wife and take her home….it's over.

O/08

Darth Vadik, CA   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Oh for God's sake just give her those delegates, let her play dirty, she still won't win the nomination. God I feel sorry for Bill, the nagging she must do at home.

Diane Panama City Fl   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Along with helping "enfranchise" Florida and Michigan Democratic voters (I voted in the Florida primary so I don't feel I was disenfranchised), I hope Senator Clinton will also repudiate racism in the President primary, as well as sexism.

wsu for obama   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

all this is doing is creating a rift in the party. she has lost the nomination, its time for the healing process of the party to begin. she needs to set her ego aside and back out. even with florida and michigan she doesn't pull ahead of obama in pledge delegates, superdelegates, or popular vote (she isn't counting 13 of 14 caucus states obama won when she lays claim to the popular vote)

divide and conquer   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

I honestly do not understand what this rally is all about, because the DNC has already agreed that the delegates from Florida and Michigan will be seated. The only point here is that they wil be seated in a way that is fair even for the other 48 states that did not break the rules. Hilarys argument is that they should be seated as is…honestly…..America, Lets be sensible. Apart from the fact that Bill was in Florida fund raisng , when the primaries were taking place…which obviuosly boosted Hilarys numbers, because Obama was not well known then, this was January……Peiople in Florida and Michigan knew that the delegates would not count. How can we reward breaking rules just to favor Hilary,, when she knows really well that her argument is realy not coming from a point of integrity?

If Hilary had won Iowa, or currently ahd the most ledged delegates , this would obviuosly not be the case…as a leader, she should accept the results of the election, she accepted and signed to the rules before she begun this race, she has lost but now wants to win no matter what way…in a way this reallt is dividing the party…..
mccain 08/12.

Karen   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

They are trying to make the votes count but hillary want everything her way and and the fair and right way.

Joel King   May 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Anyone with the name Clinton could no get elected dog catcher anymore. To bad because Chelsea might have had a future. But Hillary's selfishness has soiled the name.

WArt   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

That is clearly what their intent is. To destroy the party and Obama's chance of winning the nomination. These people were well informed of the consequences of them voting early, but they yet chose to do so anyway, despite the punishment imposed.

Clinton doesn't deserve to be President, if this is allowed. She also recognized and upheld the rules of the DNC and was informed of such punishment. Now just because she sees her chance of being President slipping away.

This is nothing but an outright attempt to steal the nomination from Barak Obama. This man has withstood her "attacks", her kitchen sink strategy.

If the DNC listen to this it would be a disservice to all those who fought long and hard to support their candidates. It's not only unfair to Obama, but to Edwards as well. It's time for Hilliary to sit down and accept what she can't change.

I hope this gets slapped back in their faces. They accepted the rules and the punishment, now they want to change them.

Unshrub   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

First they were so concerned that FL and MI would not be counted because they believed so strongly in democracy, now they want to pressure the DNC into that voodoo that Hill-do so well. It appears they only want the type of democracy that picks their candidate.

Democracy has spoken and it has picked Obama. Now the Clinton people are just becoming annoying

LYNETTE IN CA   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

THAT'S THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD OF!!!

Brendose, Oceanside, CA   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Does MAJORITY OF DELEGATES mean anything?? Come on Hillary supporters………..it's OVER.

If your purpose is to not attack the DNC or divide the party………then what the hell are you doing?

Howard Dean said the votes would be seated, so SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!

I swear, just more people whinning in "political correctness" America. What ever happened to taking a loss and moving on?

Kids don't lose anymore in games…..it's called a tie. There are last place trophies, participation awards……..There are mercy scores in games………

We have lost our competitive spirit in which there is a winner and loser. GET OVER IT, HILLARY LOST!!

Besides the obvious facts such as these, both the media and her crazy supporters push on………THANKS FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF BUSH BECAUSE YOU DIVIDED THE PARTY!!!

Charlotte   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

I wish I could be there, but I have to work. I have sent my protest letter to the DNC and urge every supporter to e-mail there position to the DNC. Write Hillary Clinton on your ballot in November..

Shirley, Silicon Valley, CA   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

What a shame!

This woman had agreed not to count the votes when she thought she was the crowned nominee! Now she is going to tear up the party just for her own benefit!

It's amazing how HRC can FOOL voters!

Shame on you Hillary!

jaylo   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

GO CLINTON GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is trying to suck up to Floridians after he blocked their opportunity
for a re-vote. He only cares about your vote if he can win in your state. Nobody's fooled. Obama would lose Florida to McCain. Not to mention Ohio and Penn.
He threw a lot of money at WV and KY, but didn't even bother to go into the states and get to know people and understand their issues. It was arrogant and insulting. Clinton campaigned hard in states she was sure to lose. As President Clinton wants to do what she has been doing for 35 years-helping all Americans. Obama just wants to be President.

Hillary   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Even as we still counting votes Obama is looking for a VP… He does not seem to care that much that the votes are counted just like W.

I think he should rap this up first… Is arrogant and ignoring this will hurt him in November.

Jawborne   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Nonsense: I am a law maker, former first lady, presidential candidate, I create the rules that I follow because I am above every other rules even thought I attested to it and conforms with the constitution that guarantees my running as a potential presidential candidate: Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Irrespective of what Senator Clinton tactics is this race is, she will lose woefully!!

Sam   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Thanks to the undecided super delegates! Some of them are Clinton supporters of course, but some of them are those people who just want to see how badly Clinton can spoil this for Obama! What they don't understand is that it's only 30% of the superdelegates that are allowing the process to be compromised, the larger majority of decisive superdelegates that clearly understand their role have done the right thing, endorse the candidate of their choice. That's all it's about, endorse the candidate of your choice. Don't make it complex and pretend you're more thoughtful about it. That way it will be clear who our nominee is and this huge joke will be over….

lynette   May 22nd, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Ms. Clinton, Please stop. This is low even for you. You are not helping your negative rating. I am all for woman power and fighting a good fight, but how good is it if you cheat to win. You have tried everything and Obama still keeps the lead. Again, please stop this while you still have your dignity and the respect of a few of us.

Fed up with Republicans in Disguise   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

HIllary needs to take Joe Lieberman with her and join the GOP. They're doing the Republicans' dirty work for them, so why not?

Independent   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Well I guess this is a big group of people who:

1. Have their bills in order
2. Have no credit problems
3. Have their children raised by a family member instead of television or day care
4. Have their careers are fully in line with where they want to be in their life.
5. Have addressed all other household issues
6. And have addressed all needs, wants, and issues that their spouse or life partner need addressed.

Because I can't think of a bigger waste of time than protesting a decision that was made because those two states broke the rules. States that KNEW they weren't going to be counted, and these people went to vote anyways. Go protest at your own state lawmakers who screwed you by putting thier political agenda ahead of what they knew the consequences are, then dodged responsibility in the interest of continuing to be elected to do absolutely nothing.

MC, Pa   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

She is crazy, so disgusting. She is playing fire which will destroy the DNC. Where is the leadership of DNC?

john   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

THIS IS FOOLISH ATTEMP. Hillary is cheater and liar. You have already lost your game hillary.
Obama08.

Tammy - KCMO   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

It isn't going to change the numbers enough for you to take the lead. I am so sick of the Clintons right now. You are the most divisive candidate I've ever seen. Up until the past 2 weeks I was fine with you continuing the race til the end. However with the comments you and Bill continue to make there won't be a Democratic party left to vote for by the time you're done destroying it. I have to give Obama credit for not sinking down to your level. You've got plenty of baggage he could bring into this campaign to end it right now.

The only visions I see right now of you and your family:
Democratic Convention: Security pulling you off the floor in a straight jacket because you still refuse to believe you lost.
By some fluke you make it to the White House: Finding Bill in the Oval Office with an intern under the desk again.

I can't think of anything postive right now coming from your campaign.

GARY   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

OK so it is OK to change the rules after the game is played and your losing. Sounds like another Clinton interpretation, if you don't like it outcome change the rules to your favor. Why is the DNC so afraid of the Clinton's?

Rick in Florida   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

HILLARY……….WAY TO GO…………NOT !!!!!! IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, ISN'T IT?? NOT THE PARTY, NOT DEFEATING MCCAIN….JUST YOU. HOW SELFISH CAN YOU BE???

THE DNC WILL SEAT FL AND MI….IN SOME FASHION….THEY HAVE ALREADY STATED THIS. SO YOUR "SHOW" IS FOR THE SUPER-DELEGATES, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

BUT DISMISSING THE "MATH", AND BY DISENFRANCHISING ALL THE VOTES CAST IN CAUCUS STATES (the places you lost don't count, but the places you won mean everything, right??) SHOW YOU FOR JUST WHO YOU ARE…..AN ARROGANT, OLD-STYLE POL, WHO WILL LIE, CHEAT, IGNORE THE RULES AND DO WHAT'S NEEDED FOR YOUR OWN POWER AND GLORY.

WE DON'T NEED MORE OF YOUR TYPE…….WE'VE MOVED TO A BETTER PLACE (and that place is MUCH better without a Clinton).

HRC Supporter   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I’ll rise.
~Maya Angelou

Michael   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

I can not help but to blame it all on the superdelegates who have not endorsed Obama as yet. They could have finished this nonsense. They still could if the move fast. I see nothing but trouble from this rally and a great damage to the party. These elders of the party seem not caring about the party at all. We all know Clintons and her supporters don't.

Maggie VT   May 22nd, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Let's just give her the nomination!!!!! I won't vote anyway. This makes me sick!!!

Whining Again   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Oh please, more drama. All she does is whine, whine, whine. Poor little rich girl. I'm so over her.

JJ   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Oh goodness. The states may be seated but not the way Hillary wants them to be. This entire situation is a mess and while I agree there needs to be a resolution, I don't agree with how Hillary is handling it. Encouraging people to "rally" really is not the right way to go. If it gets out of hand, she should be the one to blame.

Why can't she stay out of it until the committee meets on May 31st? SMH!

HillarySkank on myspace   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

If Hillary was in the lead this would never be an issue and no one can say otherwise.

The purpose of this is to ensure Barack loses the general election this year and give Hillary an opening for 2012. And I will vote against her then too!

Stephen H   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

All the votes in MI and FL should definitely be counted, but what should the penalty be for both states moving their primaries against party rules? I would like to hear suggestions for HRC supporters and I'm earnest about this. I want to know what you think is fair under the circumstances. Lets come together to resolve this issue in a way that is truly fair to both campaigns, but more so for the Dems.

Nancy   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

No, your purpose is to give the nomination to the whiney lady in the pant suit. What part of "didn't follow the rules" don't you idiots understand??? If there is a way for the Clinton family to just "take" the nomination, they will find it. And you can bet they will stop at nothing. Hillary and her family should be very proud of themselves. They are certainly sending Chelsea a message on fighting fairly. Obama will win the nomination and Hillary will get second or third or fourth best. Deal with it!!!!

Obama

lenny   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

absolutely we deserve our votes to stand. Punish the idiots that changed the primary date, not the voters or the winning candidate, Senator Clinton. Obama doesn't stand a chance against McCain and they are only figuring this out now… however, Clinton supporters have been well aware all along. Overwhelming black vote doesn't carry further then the Carolinas'.

Hill.Bill.y   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Hill.Bill.y + Obama = a wining team

JA Cook   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

As a Michigan Democrat, it would be nice to have my voice heard.

On the primary day here, since our votes were not going to count, and since my candidate of choice was not on the ballot, I decided against taking the time off from work to vote for no one.

How can I be heard?

What about others like me who couldn't vote for their preferred candidate and/or simply didn't vote that day?

bill in pa   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

How low will Clinton go to steal the nomination? She agreed to these rules beforehand. She even stated on NPR radio in October 2007 that MI and FL do not count. Now that she is losing it's an entirely different story. I hope not only does she lose the nomination but also her seat in the Senate.

The Superdelegates need to man-up and end this nonsense before it's President McCain.

PA for Obama   May 22nd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Not sure if my last comment was accepted or not, so once again, for the benefit of those who missed it:

Clinton and Lieberman should just go ahead and join the GOP instead of doing their dirty work for them. The sooner, the better.

NC voter   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

I WILL BE THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

BRENDA   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

WOW SHE WILL TRY ANYTHING

Mike   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

ENOUGH ALREADY!

To Hillary, her campaign and her dillusional supporters please stop with all this nonsense. You are still behind in every category that matters most including Florida and Michigan won't help your cause. I'm sorry "sweetie" its officially over for you!

lperkins/Sick of Hillary   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

This is cazy… Hillary should be stopped!!!!! She's acting like a KID!!! "If I can't have it, I will destroy it for Obama… "

I am a African American woman, and if Hillary try to do what I think she's about to do, there will be outrage….

denisemw1@sbcglobal.net   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Hillary , please stop it! ,is so important to you ,
you have been out
done , give it up , and pick your face up off the ground and get behind

Mr Obama and Party

Calvin   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

With all the building controversy over the Michigan and Florida votes, nobody has said what happened to the leaders who decided to hold their primaries early.
Weren’t they warned not to go early and the consequences if the do?
If so, aren’t they the ones responsible for knowingly trashing millions of votes?

My question is, what happened to these Michigan and Florida leaders?

I am Canadian
Calvin

Anonymous   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Are they purposely trying to ruin the chances for the democratic party this november. McCain has had since February to unify his party, raise money, have rallies in many states and search for his VP. Hillary had no problem with the invalid florida and michigan results until she started losing.

Moe   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Think about it Michigan and Florida voters. She abandoned you back in January by voting to boycott your states. And yet now you really believe she has your interests in mind? Do you really think she would have the same attitude if she were winning and Obama had won those states?

Stop and think…just for a second…just once in your life.

MIchael in Houston   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Wow I find it amusing that all of a sudden, Florida and Michigan mean so much to the Clinton Campaign. Where was Hillary when the leadership in Michigan and Florida decided to play by thier own rules? Do you want to know where? She was too busy blowing off Iowa as a fluke win by Obama and she had it in her mind that she had the nomination in the bag, well, now she wants to do something about those delegates. I say let them scream as loud as they want, but DNC, do not let Clinton manipulate the primary process. They (Florida and Michigan) were told not to change thier dates or else and they did, well you have to pay the price. And if the people of Florida and Michigan had any commen sense, they should have protested the decision to change their primary date. Hey Florida and Michigan, here is a bit of advice, the General Election is on November 4, 2008, if you try to change that date and vote earlier, your vote will not count. Got it? Now go back to shoveling snow in Michigan or baking your skin in Florida and shut up already. Your argument is pointless.

Linda31   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

This is getting more and more disgusting by the day! No rspect for Clinton at all. If she had not sign and stated that FL and MI would not count it would be different.

All she wants is chaos if things aren't going her way. How about the voices of the people who followed the rules??? Disgusting

Desperation   May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm ET

All I have to say is this is out of control. Every day I lose a little more respect for her. Rules are rules… and while I agree the delegates should be seated, they should be seated fairly. I would have voted for her if she was the nominee– but now she is turning me off completely. She wants to stand up and show woman who support her what??!! Her strength? Her perseverance? This is a debacle.

Edward-Chicago   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Look at the firestorm Hillary is creating. What she is doing is counter productive to the Democratic Party. I've never seen a Presidential Candidate behave in such a manner.

Tyrone Brown, Seattle, WA   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

The Clinton campaign and supporters have every right to have their voices heard. That said, I trust the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee will come to a fair and final decision on May 31st. We can then look forward to June 3rd and then fully unite behind our Democratic nominee for President. Anything beyond that, including talk or threats of taking the race all the way to the convention, is absoultely unacceptable and further more will not happen.

Jerry   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

This is disgrace to demoncratic party what Hillary is doing to the demoncratic party and Obama why are the higher demoncratic politician steping in to stop her for destroying the party I swear I will never vote again if Hillary is the nonimee she is disgrace

Everyone vote is for Hillary   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Hillary is the Best Candidate.

1. She can dodge sniper fire.
2. Even though more people support Obama, she got the popular vote
3. Cheating is good if it benefits her, nobody need to follow rules
4. Bill and Hillary pushed NAFTA, but she doesn't support it
5. She can balance the national budget, but she owes 20mil to her Campaign
6. Want to pull troops out of IRAQ but voted to send them there in the first place.

Vote for Hill we need to keep the status quo

John, OR   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Keep going! Our girl! Fight for us , for the country.

R.I.F.   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

I encourage all voters who can read to please get a gaint billard which show's Hillary's signature on the agreement she signed last fall and stand next to these idiots. I also encourage voters to get a loudspeaker and play, on a loop, Hillary Clinton's interview with NPR saying that the votes won't count. Moveon.org….we need you!!!

Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

My level of disgust for Hillary is reaching historic highs. Given the numbers, even if she is awarded the delegates for both states as she wants, Barack will win the nomination!!!

I didn't want to believe it but I am really starting to feel that Hillary would rather see McCain win this election to allow herself to run in 2012. If this occurs, she will be in for a big surprise as she will gain the sheer hatred of Barack's supporters in addition to the legion of enemies and haters that she already has.

And for the record, this has NOTHING to do with the fact that she is a woman…it all about her being Hillary Clinton!

bp   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Divide the party! That's real effective!

faye, NV   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Clinton is only using the FL and MI for selfish reason, that is to feed her ego-centric self.

What if the DNC don't do what she wants, will she file charges against them. A control freak will not run this country.

Anonymous   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

How can you count votes when Clinton's name was the only one of the two remaining candidates on the ballot Michigan? (Five Democrats withdraw from Michigan's January 15 primary; Sen. Clinton will not withdraw from Michigan primary, campaign says … )Clinton left her name for an against-the-rules primary and expects to be rewarded. Has this woman any principles at all? I believe I know the answer – she will do or say ANYTHING to have her way as any self-possessed person would. Bless her swelled head.

martin   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

please!super-ds,put an end to this!she has no right to this nomination.these hillary people are not in their right mind.they've been brainwashed,by a master of hypnotism or something.

Oh my God   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Shame on you, Clinton, shame on you!
You do not care about party or people.

Supporters of HRC, please, open your eyes. Clinton is using you. Do not be fool!

OK Works for me   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

OK. Let's just let Hillary have her way. She can have the states that screwed up didn't get voted. That will make them happy. She can discount the caucuses, since they didn't go her way (even though that will anger a lot more people than are angry in Florida and Michigan).
Let's let her run against McCain and the Republican machine. Let's let her tell little fibs (Bonsia, duck hunting, being a "blue collar gal").

Now let's watch the Republican Machine go after her. She's got a long history of dodging legal bullets with Bill (the Rose Law Firm investigation, Whitewater, travelgate, disbarment (Bill was disbarred, and she almost was, impeachment, questionable financing practices…should I go on?) Then there is the upcoming Peter Paul case which isn't looking good for the Clintons. The Republicans will have a field day with her. Of COURSE they want her to be the Democratic nominee. After they get done with her, the dirty tricks they pulled on John Kerry will seem like a tea party. She'll go down in flames, no matter what she thinks…..

Beverly, Houston   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Someone needs to stop Clinton.

james   May 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm ET

So Hillary backers are going to storm the gates of the DNC rules meeting and "create" a protest all under the guise of ensuring FL and MI get counted all in the hopes of getting their candidate the nomination.

As I recall Hillary said the votes of FL and MI would not count. Obama was not even on the ballot in MI. Hillary held a fund raiser in Fl the weekend of the primary.

"Every Vote" is exactly the kind of political gameship we do not need. Who needs a liar in the White House. This is tactics not much different than the swift boat tactics of the last election.

We have had 8 yrs of fictional government, a war that should not have happened and economy policies that only help the rich with an energy policy directed by the oil companies.

We need change to how we run government so that it is for the people by the people – not special interests with money.

CHICANO ART, ARIZONA   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I wish I could be there. I believe that if the DNC fails to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations they will lose the general election this fall. Seating Florida and Michigan will ensure a Hillary nomination. I do not understand why Obama has choosen to be on the wrong side of such a dangerous democratic issue. I suppose he is still kissing Iwoa butt.

Obama will not win Colorado. Hispanics like John McCain strongly enough to keep him from winning South West states. His electoral college strategy is flawed because he cannot win Florida and Michigan if he continues to oppose their respective seating at the DNC convention.

H Martin   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I know Waiting Moderation, but here it goes:
So now we have voters who are sore losers, can not play by the rules, and are obviously not thinking about the children of this great nation. If we allow adults to change the rules during mid stream how can we teach our children to play fair? It is like two siblings playing chess or checkers who because they are not winning folding up the game and saying since I am not winning I don't want to play anymore.

Let the delegates and supers decide who wins and be done with it. Get a clue people if you rally outside where the SD are meeting is that not pressuring them into bending to the rule breakers? What about all the Repubs in Red states who want to vote outside their party for either Obama or Hillary. We had a closed election in my state so I did not get to vote for my choice. That is the way the game is played. If your candidite does not get the nomination (either Hillary or Obama) buck up and support the other.

Even some of us REPUBLICANS do not want a Bush 3rd term!!

Abby   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

So unreasonable. Where were these people when Clinton was trying to end this on Super Tuesday and didn’t think she’d need FL and MI? Where were they when she agreed (and signed) that they should not be counted? Hwy are they being led like dumb sheep by a lier for crying out loud!!!!

Lisa, Ohio   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

YAY, GO HILLARY !!!

ALL THE WAY LADY !!!

WOMEN WILL NOT BE IGNORED…

Clintonites-

If she doesnt get the nomination lets start an underground group to write her in on the ballot

Swiss in Canada   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

Clinton has no decency, no shame. Fl and Mi broke the rules. And she will be rewarded for it? I don't get it.
You Clinton supporters can't be serious….I

Sara   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

Lie, cheat, steal, Clinton's campaign motto. OBAMA 08′

Jeremy   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

Please, someone help me understand this:
why do clinton supporters seem to believe that the votes she recieved counts more than those of Obama?

The delegates math that favor Obama did not come from the sky. It is based on actual votes by real people!!

On the issue of Popular Votes: the statistics do not even include people from states which held Caucauses.

Everyone agrees that Fl and Mi delegates will be sitted. But that has to be done in a more reasonable and just manner.

bini   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

now that's a good message; if you don't get what you want, protest. and while you protest, make sure that you ignore the rules, the purpose of your cause and your past statements. just make sure you get what you want.

Jack   May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm ET

Count the votes.
Seat the Florida and Michigan delegates.
Lets have real democracy (secret ballot)not Obamacracy where voters are hurded in the corners and told how to vote under threat of exposure of real or imagined prejudices.

Moe   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Where was this outrage when Clinton agreed to boycott Florida and Michigan back in January? Another sign of her hypocrisy. She obvious didn't care that much about "counting all the votes" back then.

sb   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Well she's done it. Now kick her out of the Party.

Kate, Atlanta   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

The DNC has been saying for months that they are going to seat these delegates. Obama has agreed to offers, and been turned down. And, he's offering even more negotiations and concessions.

What is up with these crazy people. They broke the rules, and now they think they should get to call all of the shots – they have drank the Hillary koolaide and think they are way more important than the rest of the nation.

Elisa   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

What is the world is HRC thinking about? The DNC doesn't need to be distracted by all these "groupies" for her. This will definitely divide the party – someone needs to stop this RIGHT NOW….. ENOUGH….

DROLLINS   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Hillary, keep fighting, we have your back! The superdelegates have to realize whether they count FL or MI, those people voted for you and those people will vote in Nov. and to not count their votes will only send them to McCain side.

obamacrat   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

John McCain = Luckiest Man on Earth

Marie   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Swarm the Capital? At the same time, please keep making women look bad. That way we can wait another 200 years to have a woman president. Does Hillary actually believe that not playing by the rules actually makes her a more desirable candidate? Do women who cannot accept the fact that her poorly run and divisive campaign was not accepted by the majority of people in this country really believe we should have 4 more years of Bush?

I have to hand it to Obama. He has really played so cool throughout all of this. His level head is definitely much needed around these parts.

To the media! Why don't you try to report the news for once. Let's go back and acutally look at Hillary's insistence that Florida & Michigan shouldn't count. She originally believe that after Super Tuesday she would be the nominee. Do some investigative work will you?

sheryl   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Superdelegates where are you? Stop being cowards and start coming out!!!!!

Candace from Texas   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

I AM SO UPSET ABOUT THIS!!!! SOME ONE IN THE DNC SHOULD BUT A STOP TO THIS! IF WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE HOUSE IN NOVEMBER WE NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AND NOT TEAR APART! THIS RALLY IS GOING TO TEAR THE PARTY APART! THIS MEETING NEEDS TO BE HELD IN A QUITE GENTLE MANNER, NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CAUSING FRENZY AT THE CAPITAL! I AM ASHAMED AT HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS!

Rebecca   May 22nd, 2008 2:14 pm ET

These people must be proud to be such great role models for our children. They are supporters of breaking the rules.

Linned   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

The DNC Rules Committee is meeting on May 31st to seat the delegates in a fair manner for both candidates. So, what's the problem.

Go Hillary   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Nice to see Hillary supporters uniting in protest. We have our own movement!

Dilly WA   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Superdelegates need to move and give Obama the nomination before May 31. Hillary is totally out of line and this is divisive and she knows it. She is acting like a spoiled child. The thought of her as President is scary. If the DNC can't stand up to this spoiled bully/victim I will change to Independent. This is just too much.

faye, NV   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Those vote at one time did not matter to Hillary, she stated no concern about them. Now that she is not the leader she is attempting to make it everyone fault.

Yes, every vote should be counted, be not deceive people this is really all about Clinton, because things are not going in her favor.

Clinton is attempting to control the DNC, having the attitude Oh make rule and then break them. I believe the FL and MI will be counted but done fairly. Clinton is so self indulge with herself and not caring about the party.

jason   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

so, let me get this straight… you seek to unify the party by stealing the election from Obama?

yeah… that'll surely win the support of the Obama supporters…

Jim   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

"I'm very upset with Sen Obama with some of the things he's been saying, and I can't get into the psychoanalysis of it. But I believe that Sen Obama is smarter than some of the things he is saying. He is, he understands it more. Sen Obama is a man who reads a lot, he's been around the world. I want him to get above that and maybe when Sen Clinton gets into the general election, and becomes the general election candidate he will have a higher-level discourse on these things." It is very sad when America's Leaders like Sen Obama does not want every vote to be counted.

Teri from Ohio   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Where are the superdelegates to end this mess!!! Tell Clinton to STOP this insanity NOW. SHE said, "EVERYONE knows these votes WILL NOT count!!"

Grady - Portland, OR   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

The Committee to Count Every Vote…"believe fervently, *notwithstanding any math*, that she will the better general election candidate and best president."

What's the point of counting every vote if you don't believe the results should matter?

Rebecca   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Bunch of rule breakers. What great role models for our children!!!

OLga - MA   May 22nd, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Read a blog from FL. People said the Obama campaign is very controlled and there are Obama's people in the crowd that que te public when to clap and chant. One of the blogs said they have on tape Michele Obama saying 'we need more WHITE people back here (behind the podium so the camera would show them). HA – but not surprised – Thiis ellection mess is the best real drama TV series!

Jeanne, San Diego   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

This is just prolonging a process that has already been decided. The math doesn't work in Clintons favor. Obama has the majority of pledged delegates and will have the majority whether Florida & Michigan are counted as is or not. Florida & Michigan should be penalized in some way for violating the rules. By just letting things stand as is, it pretty signals every state that the rules do matter and penalties will not be upheld when rules are violated. I am losing more and more respect for the Clintons every day, not that I had much respect for them to begin with but this win at any cost politics the Clintons are engaging in is going to hurt the Democrats in the fall. As an independent voter, I am appalled at the lack of leadership withint the party. It's no wonder the Republicans win and in a down year for them, I won't be surprised to see them organize and win the presidency.

AJ, IL   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Just let the DNC do its job without the drama of Hillary-supporter "activists". That's right, I said "activists".

Hillary and surrogates have made themselves seem like the guardians of democracy, but when the DNC proposed penalizing Florida and Michigan back in August 2007, Hillary was okay with it, and is quoted as saying "Michigan's primary doesn't matter".

Another Hillary campaign flip-flop. Superdelegates who blindly support Hillary at this point are traitors to the Democratic Party.

Mary in AL   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Come on Obama supporters, let's go too!

Franky   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Who knew Hillary is a soothsayer………who knew that. I've already moved on….

Tim   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

It's wrong. Absolutely wrong. Florida and Michigan cheated. They should be punished. Anything other than that is giving other states permission to cheat in the future…and it strips authority and power away from the DNC.
But Hillary has never cared about anyone but herself. She's a leech who will suck the blood out of the party and leave it desecrated for her own goals. It's time the party…and voters got rid of the cancer that is Hillary Clinton.

George James   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Clinton says she has won maximum number of popular votes.But,….how?She probably can satisfy her uneducated voters with that.To any sane voter she exposes her charecter as a big liar.

john williams san diego, ca.   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

I hope that all Americans realize that there is evil in the pursuit of power and idolatry and Hillary is that pure evil. WE DON'T WANT YOU AND YOUR CIRCUS.

Rebecca   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Idiots

Ian the Human Bein'   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Do you mean Pennsylvania 13 pts? (50 to 37%)

Mary-PA   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Absolutely incredible. This woman has such a scorched earth mentality. Rules don't apply to her, after all, she is OWED this nomination! I didn't think I could be more disgusted then I already was but my hats are off to you Hill, you've managed to reach a new low.

Chris - Hemet, Ca.   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Super delegates, PLEASE, rally to Sen. Obama and give him the necessary 2026 delegates required, at that point the Dem Party can give that madwoman Florida & Michigan. She is going to damage the party and hand the general election to Sen. McCain if it isn't brought to a standstill soon. In my opinion she is the strongest Republican in the race!!!!

Marc in DeKalb, IL   May 22nd, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Hopefully they'll get their names and addresses, I'm looking to start an idiot newsletter and I'm pretty sure they'd subscribe.

Dave   May 22nd, 2008 2:11 pm ET

Hillary is trying to intimidate the DNC. She is going to destroy this Party's chances of winning in November. She is the Democratic Party's worst nightmare come true.

Paula in WI   May 22nd, 2008 2:11 pm ET

A Clinton will never get a vote from my family.She has behaved in the worst possible manner.They should not allow her to continue.She is the most self serving person I've ever seen.Richardson was so correct that it's a feeling of entitlement with this family.They don't care about the people at all.They just want to protect their interest.She has ruined the chances of any female ever holding this office.It's pathetic and so are her supporters.

SHAME   May 22nd, 2008 2:11 pm ET

Shame on you, Clinton, shame on you!
You do not care about party or people.

Supporters of HRC, please, open your eyes. Clinton is using you. Do not be fool!

liz   May 22nd, 2008 2:11 pm ET

This is absolutely pathetic!!!!

Dan from california   May 22nd, 2008 2:11 pm ET

Please. HRC and her supporters were the ones who agreed to stripping the delegates from these states. If one HRC supporter can provide a logic to seat the delegates as they are please do. As an Obama supporter my argument goes like this; Count Florida with one half the delegates as a penalty for moving up the primary. Then give them to Hillary as voted (purely to appease her voters because we all know she can't win in the delegate race) in the name recognition primary. I would then agree with the DNC to seat half of Michigan at the numbers for Hillary and uncommitted for Obama. This is more than fair for Hillary and Obama still wins. To give Obama no delegates from Michigan is a travesty, any HRC supporters explain how that would be fair and the excuse he chose to take his name off the ballot holds little water.

THE LONE RANGER   May 22nd, 2008 2:10 pm ET

“It is essential that everyone who can meets in Washington that day to rally for our cherished democratic principles, "

HOW ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRICIPLES OF THE RULES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE PRIMARY, AND THAT ALL CANDIDATES PROMISED TO ADHERE TO?
I THINK OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS SHOULD HOLD THEIR OWN PROTEST, AND DEMAND THAT THE PARTY SET RULES BE ADHERED TO.

Juliemn   May 22nd, 2008 2:10 pm ET

I am for the Hillary democratic party

I am against the far-left radical obama party.

Lisa   May 22nd, 2008 2:10 pm ET

I am a BAMA supporter!

DNC – Please go ahead and give Hillary Clinton what she wants! I am
sick and tired of all of the WHINNING! Give her all of the votes in Florida. I do not know if any one voted in Michigan, but for those people, if any voted for Hillary in Michigan, please give those to her too.

Hillary – God bless you! I pray that you have wisdom! I pray that you are honest with yourself and the American people!

DEMOCRATS – Lets all pull together and take the white house back! There are so many people losing their homes, unable to go to work due to high gas prices, high food prices, and a soaring economy!

Signed,
Lisa in Chula Vista California

Justme WV   May 22nd, 2008 2:10 pm ET

Swarm away…far far away….

Dave W.   May 22nd, 2008 2:10 pm ET

Now if Clinton cannot win by the rules she agreed to at the start of the campaign, she is going ot get her supporters to protest the DNC meetings. She is trying to hijack the nomination or do as much damage as she can so that Obama loses and she can try again in 2012. Clinton will stoop to any method and destroy anyone in her way to get the nomination. The DNC and the superdelegates should end this now.

Ding, Washington, DC   May 22nd, 2008 2:10 pm ET

Senator Clinton camp has been a great arena for entertainment!. There is no shame, and that's hilarious to watch!.

judi in minnesota   May 22nd, 2008 2:09 pm ET

Hillary is determined to win the nomination by whatever means possible, no matter who it hurts, no matter what it does to the party. She is, was and always has been in it for Hillary, not the good of the nation, the party or the people.
If we get stuck with 4 more years of a George Bush aka Mccain presidency, we'll have no-one to blame but her. The Clintons will be so DONE.

Joe   May 22nd, 2008 2:09 pm ET

I think you are all desperate. She is not winning the Popular vote as she claims, not the superdelegates nor the electro's. If she cannot even beat him in the primary, "What in the world do you think she would do in the general election?"

The Lady   May 22nd, 2008 2:09 pm ET

And what are they going to do about the delegate count since that will be the deciding factor. Obama needs 61 and Hillary needs 247.

Frank   May 22nd, 2008 2:09 pm ET

She will not stop until ahe gets what she wants. It is very clear. Its all about her and not the party. Thanks HRC!!!

Valerie - St. Louis, MO   May 22nd, 2008 2:09 pm ET

She is grasping at straws because she still can't be him. He offered her a compromise with her getting the majority of the delegates from both Michigan and Florida but she won't take it. She wants it all because it is all about her! What mean, selfish woman.

Rus in St. Paul, MN   May 22nd, 2008 2:09 pm ET

And Harold Ickes came out today and stated they want to Uncommitted portion to stay uncommitted in Michigan. Florida will be easy to seat, they'll probably just make each delegate worth .5 of the delegates and seat them as is.

The MI is going to be the tricky one though. If they stay uncommitted, that means they can vote however they want. We know those uncommitted were Obama and Edwards supporters, do we disenfranchise those voters if their pledged delegates move to Clinton?

They'll probably give .5 to Michigan as well. Even if that happens and half of those uncommitted delegates go with Clinton, Obama will still have won the pledged delegate majority though and Clinton would still need 70+ % of the remaining delegates.

Compromise   May 22nd, 2008 2:08 pm ET

I agree Florida should be seated in full, Michigan will have to come through a deal. You can't say (Like Clinton aides do) that Obama should be 0 (zero, zip, none) votes in Michigan, but they want to 'count' every vote. Michigan will have to come through a deal; Florida can just be given as is. Obama is willing to give in more than half when it comes to Michigan, so let's all work together to make sure every voice is heard.

Let's come together and solve this and move to the General Election, my fellow awesome Democrats.

Unity '08

Cindy in California   May 22nd, 2008 2:08 pm ET

This is yet another divisive, desperate move on the part of the Clinton's to pressure the DNC into making her the nominee instead of Obama. She actually thinks that he should not be the nominee and she should, here we go again with the entitlement mentality.

fred   May 22nd, 2008 2:08 pm ET

Wish I could be there!! I will be there in my thought…and watching on the TV and what CNN will broadcast???

GO HILLARY!!

COUNT THE VOTES!!!

GO TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM……..SEND E-MAIL TO RULES COMMITTEE ALL VOTES SHOULD COUNT

Mary   May 22nd, 2008 2:08 pm ET

This lady knew this would happen. She has stated before that Florida and Michigan votes would not count. They count now because she is behind. If this situation was vice versa you can bet she would do everything in her power to keep the votes from being counted. If it wasanybody other than Senator Obama she would have been gone.

Venus   May 22nd, 2008 2:08 pm ET

OK. so what about all the voices of the people that didn't vote and followed the rules?

This is too funny and it is starting to look like the 2000 general election!

Like every thing else Hillary has done… this too will back fire!

You got Bill Clinton and Hill's supporters behind the scenes demanding that Hillary be placed on Obama ticket for VP because she worked hard for the position…and that she earned the position as 2nd place…

Nice way to see the once powerful Clintons dragged thru the mud that they created! Good luck on the bus ride to DC next week!

Susan   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Sure Hillary sure. Even with Florida and Michigan, you will not win.

*yawn*

What's ol' McBush doing today?

km   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Great…the red hat society is coming to Florida.

Mike from Florida   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Hasn't this gone on long enough? "We are not attempting to rip apart the party, but hey if that's what happens in order to get Senator Clinton the nomination – so be it?"

If the rules committee does not take a hard line, they are shooting themselves, the party and America in the foot, by giving Hillary's campaign more life.

Rules are rules. All candidates agreed to follow them and now that Hillary is running out of time, and potential, they should be changed.? It's time to stop this.

brian.soe   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Every votes should count, every party members should be equal.

NC Voter   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

The biiter tone of this race is neither the fault of Obama or Clinton, it rests squarely on the shoulders of two entites, which should have allowed the race to thrive, but have instead turned it into an ugly spectacle.
1. The DNC is to blame for this drawn out race, shooting both candidates in the foot by denying a compromise with regards to FL and MI a long time ago.
2. The media is to blame for biased reporting rather than simply giving us facts. Sometimes the bias has swung one way, sometimes the other, but rather than giving people the information they need to make informed decisions, it has simply fanned the flames which keep the party divided and accusatory of the other side. This is a sad state of affairs, indeed.

Mike G   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Where was the swarm at when the decision was made by FL and MI goverment officials months ago?

trellskig   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

HAHAHAHA…THEY MEAN BUSINESS…HUH?

People are you listening   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

This the funniest one. If you count all 50 states fo the union hillary is behind in the popular vote. However if you include PR which she is hoping will go her her way. Then she will be ahead. And as we all no PR is more important than any state that voted for Obama because like FL WV OH PE in is a pivotal swing state.

How do you explain to your children that if you agree to the rules in the beginning of a contest it is alright to change them if you are not winning.

jake   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

I just did a little math. I took the difference of each state primary AND Caucus and this is the totals I got from this tally. Obama had a difference over Clinton of 2,755,439 and Clinton had a divfference over Obama of 2,755,448, come on now, have you ever seen a primary or for that matter a general election with the difference being only 9 – did anyone know that these totals were this close????? Figure it yourself, for each state I took the winner & deducted the loser (for want of a better word) and wrote it down under the winners name. In TX it was really weird, it says Obama won the state and more delegates BUT he was 5298 higher in the Caucus BUT Clinton was 101,029 higher in the primary. I had no idea the popular vote was this close and we've still got a few states to go. Delegates don't mean all, if you really want what the PEOPLE who voted want, then add them up. OH YEA, I counted MI & FL. I gave all of the OTHER in MI to Obama and he had a total in FL>

debra1953   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

HEY COULD SOMEONE TELL US IN GA WHO TO CONTAC ALOT OF US HERE WANT TO GO TO THIS RALLY BUT DONT KNOW WHO TO CONTAC ABOUT IT THANKS

sean   May 22nd, 2008 2:07 pm ET

please please PLEASE follow up on this story throughout the week. So that we can all get a good laugh with they pull together 3 dozen people to demonstrate like they did last time.

Desperation: signs of a dying campaign…

Jeanie in Oregon has Hope and wants change   May 22nd, 2008 2:06 pm ET

A Bunch of freakin nut jobs!!!!!

Ted G   May 22nd, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Let them swarm, WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alice in Florida   May 22nd, 2008 2:06 pm ET

AWESOME!!!!!!

If the DNC doesn't hear us on May 31, they'll hear us in November – count on it!

NOBAMA!!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER – we will NEVER unify under the Great Divider

Choice #1 – Hillary

Choice #2 – McCain

Obama can go organize a community somewhere……it's all he's experienced at….

We love you Good bye   May 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm ET

not suprizing lobbying is her place of stregth, but guess what the American people have spoken come again next election time, we lost this time.

Boye   May 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm ET

It's sad that people can aggressively justify that Hillary is fighting for MI and FL but they somehow overlook the fact that she signed against counting the votes. I mean, this fight would have been much easier before MI and FL were penalized but I didn't see her fighting then.

Greg   May 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm ET

This is absolutely deplorable.

Where were these people when Florida and Michigan decided to violate Party rules and move their elections up?

Where were they when the DNC punished them for that very same behavior?

Where were they when the Democratic candidates (inlcuding their candidate) signed off on the punishment?

This is self-serving behavior at its worst and this will undoubtedly hurt the Democrats chances in November.

These Hillary supporters are doing themselves, and their party, no favors by resorting to such absurd tactics.

Sara   May 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm ET

She agreed to the rules, now that things are not going her way, wants to change them. She makes me ill. NO MORE CLINTONS. OBAMA 08′

Mish   May 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm ET

I cannot believe the Clintons!!!
what sore losers!!!
Just go ahead and change the rules in the middle of the game!!
What *pathetic examples* they are to the young
The Democratic leaders need to stop this madness NOW

rumpusgoopus   May 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm ET

You know, they're right. The only way to have a fair result is to change the rules that everyone agreed to at the beginning.

In more reasonable news, how about agreeing to the half-delegate thing? Oh wait, you don't care about people's votes, you care about your candidate winning.

Wil B   May 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm ET

Its funny how Clinton once said they should not count, Florida and Michigan, yet now she wants it because she is losing. This spits in the face of the process and says you can break the rules and eventually its ok.

Janet, American via Canada   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Why shouldn't they get mad, it was Senator Clinton who first agreed with the rules then broke them? Implemented by her campaign manager, previous years ago.

Now, there should be a RE VOTE for both States and Senator Clinton should pick up the TAB — In by having a TRUTHFUL, DEMACRATIC, HONEST, AND RESPECTFUL Re Vote, for all eligible voters.

This way all votes and be casted and counted, just like Senator Clinton wanted them to be.

Also, all those backers of Senator Clinton can Finance the RE VOTE!

Proud Woman/Nothing like the HRC Whiners!   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Wow! They really don't feel the rules should apply to them do they?

Dan Huff   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

So Mrs. Clinton is attempting to strongarm the Democratic Party into doing something she personally agreed not to do, seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan. How can we trust her to ever keep her word should she become President, if she lies about elections issues? This is a woman who can't keep her word. Enough Said?

clinton to try and steal the nomination   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

how can FL and MI be seated without penalty

mollygonz   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

This is unbelievable! This is the kind of crunk that is dividing the party. She voted for their votes not to be counted in the first place. I really believe that she is crazy. Obama supporters should show up there too. If she want to start a war, so be it. Be careful what you wish for.

Xango 4   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

guess who is behind these efforts??? none the less than Limbaugh he is encouraging all women to come out and also he is also providing emotional counseling and support in his radio..

he continues to laugh at the DNC and he loves it as Hillary is his ticket to destroy the democratic party , but specially to get McCain to power..

billarys think they can take over no matter what..

we will see then………….I feel that she has paved the road for McCain,.. and she does not care, she is now paving the road for her princess since the queen and king are becoming old and their lies starting to catch up with them……

James, CA   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Hillary is turning this into a civil right issue. Still tearing the dem apart. This is ridiculous.

Lana   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Hey what about McCain's pastor?

I hear he thinks Islam is not a religion.

Steve   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Hillary is willing to destroy the DNC to get what she wants…..

andrea, Illinois   May 22nd, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Are they all out of their minds?

Mary from Sarasota FL   May 22nd, 2008 2:03 pm ET

Ho Boy !! A good idea to picket the May 31st DNC meetings in Washington…. for those who are going my best wishes for success.
Mary from Sarasota, FL and we Floridians thank you too…

Selah Brown   May 22nd, 2008 2:03 pm ET

If Hilary felt this strongly about every vote counting – why did she sign the agreement stripping Florida and Michigan of their delegates in the first place? If it was so important to her then she should should have fought for their votes to count when she was the front runner and not waited until she was behind.
I want to respect Hilary, I want to support her, but I want her to play fair. To try and include these delegates now, after the fact, is simply unfair.

Ken Mitchell - Miami FL   May 22nd, 2008 2:03 pm ET

They can swarm all they want. It's a definite waste of time though. The truth of the matter is Florida and Michigan WILL be seated at the convention. There is NO doubt about that. BUT, they will NOT be seated according to how they carried out their primaries in January. That's all.

Just wondering . .   May 22nd, 2008 2:03 pm ET

I wonder how many people who have decided they need to rally now, would be there if the tables were turned and it was Barak Obama who won those states? I can tell you one thing for SURE Hillary Clinton would not be one of them. She would be holding rallies about the importance of rules and such . . .

cryin shame . . . .

ALEXANDRIA VA   May 22nd, 2008 2:02 pm ET

It would be nice if the supers would come out and make there pledges now. That would cut down the hoopla!!!!

M Philllips   May 22nd, 2008 2:02 pm ET

This is outside the rules. Super delegates and commiitee members better think long and hard before taking Obama's win away on the basis of Clinton's blind ambition and specious legal arguments. Is it more important for her to have her own way or for the party to win. Paradise Lost? Swim, creep, crawl fly , I believe, is the progression.

Lana   May 22nd, 2008 2:02 pm ET

To late. You already have divided the party.

Give it up people. Its over. Let it go.

Eric   May 22nd, 2008 2:02 pm ET

Hillary’s still in it ’cause she knows she’s gonna pull a “Vince Foster” (wink, wink-nudge,nudge) on Obama and get the nomination by default. Why else would she stay in a losing race if she didn’t have that up her pantsuit sleeve?

Either that, or she'll accept the VP nomination and THEN pull a "Vince Foster". She can't lose (in her own mind, that is).

real dem   May 22nd, 2008 2:01 pm ET

It will be all over for Hillary Clinton on May 31.

Why?

Because the Democratic National Committee is going to enforce its rules- the same rules that Hillary Clinton agreed to last fall.

She signed a pledge and stated that Florida and Michigan wouldn't count.

She was either lying then or she is lying now.

Angus McDugan   May 22nd, 2008 2:01 pm ET

What a mess! This shows that the DNC has little control or ability to lead.

Jack   May 22nd, 2008 2:01 pm ET

I think Florida should be included as Obama's name was in the ballot.

However, MI- I dont think that is fair to Obama as his name was not in the ballot

Independent for Obama   May 22nd, 2008 2:00 pm ET

"[N]otwithstanding any math" sounds a lot like Mike Huckabee saying he didn't major in math, he majored in miracles.

Please, stop hoping for a miracle and MOVE ON!!

Bob Stephens   May 22nd, 2008 2:00 pm ET

I really feel sorry for Bill Clinton. Being married to Hillary is probably a horrible experience for anyone to endure.

Chris from NC   May 22nd, 2008 2:00 pm ET

This woman and her disillusioned supporters never fail to amuse me.

Matt   May 22nd, 2008 1:59 pm ET

Nothing But Bullies and Terrorists making threats to ruin the party!

Mike D   May 22nd, 2008 1:59 pm ET

HRC bullying and intimidation… you havent seen anything yet if obama is denied this nomination…

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