HRC bullying and intimidation… you havent seen anything yet if obama is denied this nomination…

Nothing But Bullies and Terrorists making threats to ruin the party!

This woman and her disillusioned supporters never fail to amuse me.

I really feel sorry for Bill Clinton. Being married to Hillary is probably a horrible experience for anyone to endure.

"[N]otwithstanding any math" sounds a lot like Mike Huckabee saying he didn't major in math, he majored in miracles.

Please, stop hoping for a miracle and MOVE ON!!

I think Florida should be included as Obama's name was in the ballot.

However, MI- I dont think that is fair to Obama as his name was not in the ballot

What a mess! This shows that the DNC has little control or ability to lead.

It will be all over for Hillary Clinton on May 31.

Why?

Because the Democratic National Committee is going to enforce its rules- the same rules that Hillary Clinton agreed to last fall.

She signed a pledge and stated that Florida and Michigan wouldn't count.

She was either lying then or she is lying now.

Hillary’s still in it ’cause she knows she’s gonna pull a “Vince Foster” (wink, wink-nudge,nudge) on Obama and get the nomination by default. Why else would she stay in a losing race if she didn’t have that up her pantsuit sleeve?

Either that, or she'll accept the VP nomination and THEN pull a "Vince Foster". She can't lose (in her own mind, that is).

To late. You already have divided the party.

Give it up people. Its over. Let it go.

This is outside the rules. Super delegates and commiitee members better think long and hard before taking Obama's win away on the basis of Clinton's blind ambition and specious legal arguments. Is it more important for her to have her own way or for the party to win. Paradise Lost? Swim, creep, crawl fly , I believe, is the progression.

It would be nice if the supers would come out and make there pledges now. That would cut down the hoopla!!!!

I wonder how many people who have decided they need to rally now, would be there if the tables were turned and it was Barak Obama who won those states? I can tell you one thing for SURE Hillary Clinton would not be one of them. She would be holding rallies about the importance of rules and such . . .

cryin shame . . . .

They can swarm all they want. It's a definite waste of time though. The truth of the matter is Florida and Michigan WILL be seated at the convention. There is NO doubt about that. BUT, they will NOT be seated according to how they carried out their primaries in January. That's all.

If Hilary felt this strongly about every vote counting - why did she sign the agreement stripping Florida and Michigan of their delegates in the first place? If it was so important to her then she should should have fought for their votes to count when she was the front runner and not waited until she was behind.
I want to respect Hilary, I want to support her, but I want her to play fair. To try and include these delegates now, after the fact, is simply unfair.

Ho Boy !! A good idea to picket the May 31st DNC meetings in Washington…. for those who are going my best wishes for success.
Mary from Sarasota, FL and we Floridians thank you too…

Are they all out of their minds?

Hillary is willing to destroy the DNC to get what she wants…..

Hey what about McCain's pastor?

I hear he thinks Islam is not a religion.

Hillary is turning this into a civil right issue. Still tearing the dem apart. This is ridiculous.

guess who is behind these efforts??? none the less than Limbaugh he is encouraging all women to come out and also he is also providing emotional counseling and support in his radio..

he continues to laugh at the DNC and he loves it as Hillary is his ticket to destroy the democratic party , but specially to get McCain to power..

billarys think they can take over no matter what..

we will see then………….I feel that she has paved the road for McCain,.. and she does not care, she is now paving the road for her princess since the queen and king are becoming old and their lies starting to catch up with them……

This is unbelievable! This is the kind of crunk that is dividing the party. She voted for their votes not to be counted in the first place. I really believe that she is crazy. Obama supporters should show up there too. If she want to start a war, so be it. Be careful what you wish for.

how can FL and MI be seated without penalty

So Mrs. Clinton is attempting to strongarm the Democratic Party into doing something she personally agreed not to do, seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan. How can we trust her to ever keep her word should she become President, if she lies about elections issues? This is a woman who can't keep her word. Enough Said?

Wow! They really don't feel the rules should apply to them do they?

Why shouldn't they get mad, it was Senator Clinton who first agreed with the rules then broke them? Implemented by her campaign manager, previous years ago.

Now, there should be a RE VOTE for both States and Senator Clinton should pick up the TAB — In by having a TRUTHFUL, DEMACRATIC, HONEST, AND RESPECTFUL Re Vote, for all eligible voters.

This way all votes and be casted and counted, just like Senator Clinton wanted them to be.

Also, all those backers of Senator Clinton can Finance the RE VOTE!

Its funny how Clinton once said they should not count, Florida and Michigan, yet now she wants it because she is losing. This spits in the face of the process and says you can break the rules and eventually its ok.

You know, they're right. The only way to have a fair result is to change the rules that everyone agreed to at the beginning.

In more reasonable news, how about agreeing to the half-delegate thing? Oh wait, you don't care about people's votes, you care about your candidate winning.

I cannot believe the Clintons!!!
what sore losers!!!
Just go ahead and change the rules in the middle of the game!!
What *pathetic examples* they are to the young
The Democratic leaders need to stop this madness NOW

She agreed to the rules, now that things are not going her way, wants to change them. She makes me ill. NO MORE CLINTONS. OBAMA 08′

This is absolutely deplorable.

Where were these people when Florida and Michigan decided to violate Party rules and move their elections up?

Where were they when the DNC punished them for that very same behavior?

Where were they when the Democratic candidates (inlcuding their candidate) signed off on the punishment?

This is self-serving behavior at its worst and this will undoubtedly hurt the Democrats chances in November.

These Hillary supporters are doing themselves, and their party, no favors by resorting to such absurd tactics.

It's sad that people can aggressively justify that Hillary is fighting for MI and FL but they somehow overlook the fact that she signed against counting the votes. I mean, this fight would have been much easier before MI and FL were penalized but I didn't see her fighting then.

not suprizing lobbying is her place of stregth, but guess what the American people have spoken come again next election time, we lost this time.

AWESOME!!!!!!

If the DNC doesn't hear us on May 31, they'll hear us in November - count on it!

NOBAMA!!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER - we will NEVER unify under the Great Divider

Choice #1 - Hillary

Choice #2 - McCain

Obama can go organize a community somewhere……it's all he's experienced at….

Let them swarm, WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Bunch of freakin nut jobs!!!!!

please please PLEASE follow up on this story throughout the week. So that we can all get a good laugh with they pull together 3 dozen people to demonstrate like they did last time.

Desperation: signs of a dying campaign…

HEY COULD SOMEONE TELL US IN GA WHO TO CONTAC ALOT OF US HERE WANT TO GO TO THIS RALLY BUT DONT KNOW WHO TO CONTAC ABOUT IT THANKS

I just did a little math. I took the difference of each state primary AND Caucus and this is the totals I got from this tally. Obama had a difference over Clinton of 2,755,439 and Clinton had a divfference over Obama of 2,755,448, come on now, have you ever seen a primary or for that matter a general election with the difference being only 9 - did anyone know that these totals were this close????? Figure it yourself, for each state I took the winner & deducted the loser (for want of a better word) and wrote it down under the winners name. In TX it was really weird, it says Obama won the state and more delegates BUT he was 5298 higher in the Caucus BUT Clinton was 101,029 higher in the primary. I had no idea the popular vote was this close and we've still got a few states to go. Delegates don't mean all, if you really want what the PEOPLE who voted want, then add them up. OH YEA, I counted MI & FL. I gave all of the OTHER in MI to Obama and he had a total in FL>

This the funniest one. If you count all 50 states fo the union hillary is behind in the popular vote. However if you include PR which she is hoping will go her her way. Then she will be ahead. And as we all no PR is more important than any state that voted for Obama because like FL WV OH PE in is a pivotal swing state.

How do you explain to your children that if you agree to the rules in the beginning of a contest it is alright to change them if you are not winning.

HAHAHAHA…THEY MEAN BUSINESS…HUH?

Where was the swarm at when the decision was made by FL and MI goverment officials months ago?

The biiter tone of this race is neither the fault of Obama or Clinton, it rests squarely on the shoulders of two entites, which should have allowed the race to thrive, but have instead turned it into an ugly spectacle.
1. The DNC is to blame for this drawn out race, shooting both candidates in the foot by denying a compromise with regards to FL and MI a long time ago.
2. The media is to blame for biased reporting rather than simply giving us facts. Sometimes the bias has swung one way, sometimes the other, but rather than giving people the information they need to make informed decisions, it has simply fanned the flames which keep the party divided and accusatory of the other side. This is a sad state of affairs, indeed.

Every votes should count, every party members should be equal.

Hasn't this gone on long enough? "We are not attempting to rip apart the party, but hey if that's what happens in order to get Senator Clinton the nomination - so be it?"

If the rules committee does not take a hard line, they are shooting themselves, the party and America in the foot, by giving Hillary's campaign more life.

Rules are rules. All candidates agreed to follow them and now that Hillary is running out of time, and potential, they should be changed.? It's time to stop this.

Great…the red hat society is coming to Florida.

Sure Hillary sure. Even with Florida and Michigan, you will not win.

*yawn*

What's ol' McBush doing today?

OK. so what about all the voices of the people that didn't vote and followed the rules?

This is too funny and it is starting to look like the 2000 general election!

Like every thing else Hillary has done… this too will back fire!

You got Bill Clinton and Hill's supporters behind the scenes demanding that Hillary be placed on Obama ticket for VP because she worked hard for the position…and that she earned the position as 2nd place…

Nice way to see the once powerful Clintons dragged thru the mud that they created! Good luck on the bus ride to DC next week!

This lady knew this would happen. She has stated before that Florida and Michigan votes would not count. They count now because she is behind. If this situation was vice versa you can bet she would do everything in her power to keep the votes from being counted. If it wasanybody other than Senator Obama she would have been gone.

Wish I could be there!! I will be there in my thought…and watching on the TV and what CNN will broadcast???

GO HILLARY!!

COUNT THE VOTES!!!

GO TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM……..SEND E-MAIL TO RULES COMMITTEE ALL VOTES SHOULD COUNT

This is yet another divisive, desperate move on the part of the Clinton's to pressure the DNC into making her the nominee instead of Obama. She actually thinks that he should not be the nominee and she should, here we go again with the entitlement mentality.

I agree Florida should be seated in full, Michigan will have to come through a deal. You can't say (Like Clinton aides do) that Obama should be 0 (zero, zip, none) votes in Michigan, but they want to 'count' every vote. Michigan will have to come through a deal; Florida can just be given as is. Obama is willing to give in more than half when it comes to Michigan, so let's all work together to make sure every voice is heard.

Let's come together and solve this and move to the General Election, my fellow awesome Democrats.

Unity '08

And Harold Ickes came out today and stated they want to Uncommitted portion to stay uncommitted in Michigan. Florida will be easy to seat, they'll probably just make each delegate worth .5 of the delegates and seat them as is.

The MI is going to be the tricky one though. If they stay uncommitted, that means they can vote however they want. We know those uncommitted were Obama and Edwards supporters, do we disenfranchise those voters if their pledged delegates move to Clinton?

They'll probably give .5 to Michigan as well. Even if that happens and half of those uncommitted delegates go with Clinton, Obama will still have won the pledged delegate majority though and Clinton would still need 70+ % of the remaining delegates.

She is grasping at straws because she still can't be him. He offered her a compromise with her getting the majority of the delegates from both Michigan and Florida but she won't take it. She wants it all because it is all about her! What mean, selfish woman.

She will not stop until ahe gets what she wants. It is very clear. Its all about her and not the party. Thanks HRC!!!

And what are they going to do about the delegate count since that will be the deciding factor. Obama needs 61 and Hillary needs 247.

I think you are all desperate. She is not winning the Popular vote as she claims, not the superdelegates nor the electro's. If she cannot even beat him in the primary, "What in the world do you think she would do in the general election?"

Hillary is determined to win the nomination by whatever means possible, no matter who it hurts, no matter what it does to the party. She is, was and always has been in it for Hillary, not the good of the nation, the party or the people.
If we get stuck with 4 more years of a George Bush aka Mccain presidency, we'll have no-one to blame but her. The Clintons will be so DONE.

Senator Clinton camp has been a great arena for entertainment!. There is no shame, and that's hilarious to watch!.

Now if Clinton cannot win by the rules she agreed to at the start of the campaign, she is going ot get her supporters to protest the DNC meetings. She is trying to hijack the nomination or do as much damage as she can so that Obama loses and she can try again in 2012. Clinton will stoop to any method and destroy anyone in her way to get the nomination. The DNC and the superdelegates should end this now.

Swarm away…far far away….

I am a BAMA supporter!

DNC - Please go ahead and give Hillary Clinton what she wants! I am
sick and tired of all of the WHINNING! Give her all of the votes in Florida. I do not know if any one voted in Michigan, but for those people, if any voted for Hillary in Michigan, please give those to her too.

Hillary - God bless you! I pray that you have wisdom! I pray that you are honest with yourself and the American people!

DEMOCRATS - Lets all pull together and take the white house back! There are so many people losing their homes, unable to go to work due to high gas prices, high food prices, and a soaring economy!

Signed,
Lisa in Chula Vista California

I am for the Hillary democratic party

I am against the far-left radical obama party.

“It is essential that everyone who can meets in Washington that day to rally for our cherished democratic principles, "

HOW ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRICIPLES OF THE RULES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE PRIMARY, AND THAT ALL CANDIDATES PROMISED TO ADHERE TO?
I THINK OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS SHOULD HOLD THEIR OWN PROTEST, AND DEMAND THAT THE PARTY SET RULES BE ADHERED TO.

Please. HRC and her supporters were the ones who agreed to stripping the delegates from these states. If one HRC supporter can provide a logic to seat the delegates as they are please do. As an Obama supporter my argument goes like this; Count Florida with one half the delegates as a penalty for moving up the primary. Then give them to Hillary as voted (purely to appease her voters because we all know she can't win in the delegate race) in the name recognition primary. I would then agree with the DNC to seat half of Michigan at the numbers for Hillary and uncommitted for Obama. This is more than fair for Hillary and Obama still wins. To give Obama no delegates from Michigan is a travesty, any HRC supporters explain how that would be fair and the excuse he chose to take his name off the ballot holds little water.

This is absolutely pathetic!!!!

Shame on you, Clinton, shame on you!
You do not care about party or people.

Supporters of HRC, please, open your eyes. Clinton is using you. Do not be fool!

A Clinton will never get a vote from my family.She has behaved in the worst possible manner.They should not allow her to continue.She is the most self serving person I've ever seen.Richardson was so correct that it's a feeling of entitlement with this family.They don't care about the people at all.They just want to protect their interest.She has ruined the chances of any female ever holding this office.It's pathetic and so are her supporters.

Hillary is trying to intimidate the DNC. She is going to destroy this Party's chances of winning in November. She is the Democratic Party's worst nightmare come true.

Hopefully they'll get their names and addresses, I'm looking to start an idiot newsletter and I'm pretty sure they'd subscribe.

Super delegates, PLEASE, rally to Sen. Obama and give him the necessary 2026 delegates required, at that point the Dem Party can give that madwoman Florida & Michigan. She is going to damage the party and hand the general election to Sen. McCain if it isn't brought to a standstill soon. In my opinion she is the strongest Republican in the race!!!!

Absolutely incredible. This woman has such a scorched earth mentality. Rules don't apply to her, after all, she is OWED this nomination! I didn't think I could be more disgusted then I already was but my hats are off to you Hill, you've managed to reach a new low.

Do you mean Pennsylvania 13 pts? (50 to 37%)

Idiots

I hope that all Americans realize that there is evil in the pursuit of power and idolatry and Hillary is that pure evil. WE DON'T WANT YOU AND YOUR CIRCUS.

Clinton says she has won maximum number of popular votes.But,….how?She probably can satisfy her uneducated voters with that.To any sane voter she exposes her charecter as a big liar.

It's wrong. Absolutely wrong. Florida and Michigan cheated. They should be punished. Anything other than that is giving other states permission to cheat in the future…and it strips authority and power away from the DNC.
But Hillary has never cared about anyone but herself. She's a leech who will suck the blood out of the party and leave it desecrated for her own goals. It's time the party…and voters got rid of the cancer that is Hillary Clinton.

Who knew Hillary is a soothsayer………who knew that. I've already moved on….

Come on Obama supporters, let's go too!

Just let the DNC do its job without the drama of Hillary-supporter "activists". That's right, I said "activists".

Hillary and surrogates have made themselves seem like the guardians of democracy, but when the DNC proposed penalizing Florida and Michigan back in August 2007, Hillary was okay with it, and is quoted as saying "Michigan's primary doesn't matter".

Another Hillary campaign flip-flop. Superdelegates who blindly support Hillary at this point are traitors to the Democratic Party.

This is just prolonging a process that has already been decided. The math doesn't work in Clintons favor. Obama has the majority of pledged delegates and will have the majority whether Florida & Michigan are counted as is or not. Florida & Michigan should be penalized in some way for violating the rules. By just letting things stand as is, it pretty signals every state that the rules do matter and penalties will not be upheld when rules are violated. I am losing more and more respect for the Clintons every day, not that I had much respect for them to begin with but this win at any cost politics the Clintons are engaging in is going to hurt the Democrats in the fall. As an independent voter, I am appalled at the lack of leadership withint the party. It's no wonder the Republicans win and in a down year for them, I won't be surprised to see them organize and win the presidency.

Read a blog from FL. People said the Obama campaign is very controlled and there are Obama's people in the crowd that que te public when to clap and chant. One of the blogs said they have on tape Michele Obama saying 'we need more WHITE people back here (behind the podium so the camera would show them). HA - but not surprised - Thiis ellection mess is the best real drama TV series!

Bunch of rule breakers. What great role models for our children!!!

The Committee to Count Every Vote…"believe fervently, *notwithstanding any math*, that she will the better general election candidate and best president."

What's the point of counting every vote if you don't believe the results should matter?

Where are the superdelegates to end this mess!!! Tell Clinton to STOP this insanity NOW. SHE said, "EVERYONE knows these votes WILL NOT count!!"

"I'm very upset with Sen Obama with some of the things he's been saying, and I can't get into the psychoanalysis of it. But I believe that Sen Obama is smarter than some of the things he is saying. He is, he understands it more. Sen Obama is a man who reads a lot, he's been around the world. I want him to get above that and maybe when Sen Clinton gets into the general election, and becomes the general election candidate he will have a higher-level discourse on these things." It is very sad when America's Leaders like Sen Obama does not want every vote to be counted.

so, let me get this straight… you seek to unify the party by stealing the election from Obama?

yeah… that'll surely win the support of the Obama supporters…

Those vote at one time did not matter to Hillary, she stated no concern about them. Now that she is not the leader she is attempting to make it everyone fault.

Yes, every vote should be counted, be not deceive people this is really all about Clinton, because things are not going in her favor.

Clinton is attempting to control the DNC, having the attitude Oh make rule and then break them. I believe the FL and MI will be counted but done fairly. Clinton is so self indulge with herself and not caring about the party.

Superdelegates need to move and give Obama the nomination before May 31. Hillary is totally out of line and this is divisive and she knows it. She is acting like a spoiled child. The thought of her as President is scary. If the DNC can't stand up to this spoiled bully/victim I will change to Independent. This is just too much.

Nice to see Hillary supporters uniting in protest. We have our own movement!

The DNC Rules Committee is meeting on May 31st to seat the delegates in a fair manner for both candidates. So, what's the problem.

These people must be proud to be such great role models for our children. They are supporters of breaking the rules.

I AM SO UPSET ABOUT THIS!!!! SOME ONE IN THE DNC SHOULD BUT A STOP TO THIS! IF WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE HOUSE IN NOVEMBER WE NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AND NOT TEAR APART! THIS RALLY IS GOING TO TEAR THE PARTY APART! THIS MEETING NEEDS TO BE HELD IN A QUITE GENTLE MANNER, NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CAUSING FRENZY AT THE CAPITAL! I AM ASHAMED AT HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS!

Superdelegates where are you? Stop being cowards and start coming out!!!!!

Swarm the Capital? At the same time, please keep making women look bad. That way we can wait another 200 years to have a woman president. Does Hillary actually believe that not playing by the rules actually makes her a more desirable candidate? Do women who cannot accept the fact that her poorly run and divisive campaign was not accepted by the majority of people in this country really believe we should have 4 more years of Bush?

I have to hand it to Obama. He has really played so cool throughout all of this. His level head is definitely much needed around these parts.

To the media! Why don't you try to report the news for once. Let's go back and acutally look at Hillary's insistence that Florida & Michigan shouldn't count. She originally believe that after Super Tuesday she would be the nominee. Do some investigative work will you?

John McCain = Luckiest Man on Earth

Hillary, keep fighting, we have your back! The superdelegates have to realize whether they count FL or MI, those people voted for you and those people will vote in Nov. and to not count their votes will only send them to McCain side.

What is the world is HRC thinking about? The DNC doesn't need to be distracted by all these "groupies" for her. This will definitely divide the party - someone needs to stop this RIGHT NOW….. ENOUGH….

The DNC has been saying for months that they are going to seat these delegates. Obama has agreed to offers, and been turned down. And, he's offering even more negotiations and concessions.

What is up with these crazy people. They broke the rules, and now they think they should get to call all of the shots - they have drank the Hillary koolaide and think they are way more important than the rest of the nation.

Well she's done it. Now kick her out of the Party.

Where was this outrage when Clinton agreed to boycott Florida and Michigan back in January? Another sign of her hypocrisy. She obvious didn't care that much about "counting all the votes" back then.

Count the votes.
Seat the Florida and Michigan delegates.
Lets have real democracy (secret ballot)not Obamacracy where voters are hurded in the corners and told how to vote under threat of exposure of real or imagined prejudices.

now that's a good message; if you don't get what you want, protest. and while you protest, make sure that you ignore the rules, the purpose of your cause and your past statements. just make sure you get what you want.

Please, someone help me understand this:
why do clinton supporters seem to believe that the votes she recieved counts more than those of Obama?

The delegates math that favor Obama did not come from the sky. It is based on actual votes by real people!!

On the issue of Popular Votes: the statistics do not even include people from states which held Caucauses.

Everyone agrees that Fl and Mi delegates will be sitted. But that has to be done in a more reasonable and just manner.

Lie, cheat, steal, Clinton's campaign motto. OBAMA 08′

Clinton has no decency, no shame. Fl and Mi broke the rules. And she will be rewarded for it? I don't get it.
You Clinton supporters can't be serious….I

YAY, GO HILLARY !!!

ALL THE WAY LADY !!!

WOMEN WILL NOT BE IGNORED…

Clintonites-

If she doesnt get the nomination lets start an underground group to write her in on the ballot

So unreasonable. Where were these people when Clinton was trying to end this on Super Tuesday and didn’t think she’d need FL and MI? Where were they when she agreed (and signed) that they should not be counted? Hwy are they being led like dumb sheep by a lier for crying out loud!!!!

I know Waiting Moderation, but here it goes:
So now we have voters who are sore losers, can not play by the rules, and are obviously not thinking about the children of this great nation. If we allow adults to change the rules during mid stream how can we teach our children to play fair? It is like two siblings playing chess or checkers who because they are not winning folding up the game and saying since I am not winning I don't want to play anymore.

Let the delegates and supers decide who wins and be done with it. Get a clue people if you rally outside where the SD are meeting is that not pressuring them into bending to the rule breakers? What about all the Repubs in Red states who want to vote outside their party for either Obama or Hillary. We had a closed election in my state so I did not get to vote for my choice. That is the way the game is played. If your candidite does not get the nomination (either Hillary or Obama) buck up and support the other.

Even some of us REPUBLICANS do not want a Bush 3rd term!!

I wish I could be there. I believe that if the DNC fails to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations they will lose the general election this fall. Seating Florida and Michigan will ensure a Hillary nomination. I do not understand why Obama has choosen to be on the wrong side of such a dangerous democratic issue. I suppose he is still kissing Iwoa butt.

Obama will not win Colorado. Hispanics like John McCain strongly enough to keep him from winning South West states. His electoral college strategy is flawed because he cannot win Florida and Michigan if he continues to oppose their respective seating at the DNC convention.

So Hillary backers are going to storm the gates of the DNC rules meeting and "create" a protest all under the guise of ensuring FL and MI get counted all in the hopes of getting their candidate the nomination.

As I recall Hillary said the votes of FL and MI would not count. Obama was not even on the ballot in MI. Hillary held a fund raiser in Fl the weekend of the primary.

"Every Vote" is exactly the kind of political gameship we do not need. Who needs a liar in the White House. This is tactics not much different than the swift boat tactics of the last election.

We have had 8 yrs of fictional government, a war that should not have happened and economy policies that only help the rich with an energy policy directed by the oil companies.

We need change to how we run government so that it is for the people by the people - not special interests with money.

Someone needs to stop Clinton.

OK. Let's just let Hillary have her way. She can have the states that screwed up didn't get voted. That will make them happy. She can discount the caucuses, since they didn't go her way (even though that will anger a lot more people than are angry in Florida and Michigan).
Let's let her run against McCain and the Republican machine. Let's let her tell little fibs (Bonsia, duck hunting, being a "blue collar gal").

Now let's watch the Republican Machine go after her. She's got a long history of dodging legal bullets with Bill (the Rose Law Firm investigation, Whitewater, travelgate, disbarment (Bill was disbarred, and she almost was, impeachment, questionable financing practices…should I go on?) Then there is the upcoming Peter Paul case which isn't looking good for the Clintons. The Republicans will have a field day with her. Of COURSE they want her to be the Democratic nominee. After they get done with her, the dirty tricks they pulled on John Kerry will seem like a tea party. She'll go down in flames, no matter what she thinks…..

Shame on you, Clinton, shame on you!
You do not care about party or people.

Supporters of HRC, please, open your eyes. Clinton is using you. Do not be fool!

please!super-ds,put an end to this!she has no right to this nomination.these hillary people are not in their right mind.they've been brainwashed,by a master of hypnotism or something.

How can you count votes when Clinton's name was the only one of the two remaining candidates on the ballot Michigan? (Five Democrats withdraw from Michigan's January 15 primary; Sen. Clinton will not withdraw from Michigan primary, campaign says … )Clinton left her name for an against-the-rules primary and expects to be rewarded. Has this woman any principles at all? I believe I know the answer - she will do or say ANYTHING to have her way as any self-possessed person would. Bless her swelled head.

Clinton is only using the FL and MI for selfish reason, that is to feed her ego-centric self.

What if the DNC don't do what she wants, will she file charges against them. A control freak will not run this country.

Divide the party! That's real effective!

My level of disgust for Hillary is reaching historic highs. Given the numbers, even if she is awarded the delegates for both states as she wants, Barack will win the nomination!!!

I didn't want to believe it but I am really starting to feel that Hillary would rather see McCain win this election to allow herself to run in 2012. If this occurs, she will be in for a big surprise as she will gain the sheer hatred of Barack's supporters in addition to the legion of enemies and haters that she already has.

And for the record, this has NOTHING to do with the fact that she is a woman…it all about her being Hillary Clinton!

I encourage all voters who can read to please get a gaint billard which show's Hillary's signature on the agreement she signed last fall and stand next to these idiots. I also encourage voters to get a loudspeaker and play, on a loop, Hillary Clinton's interview with NPR saying that the votes won't count. Moveon.org….we need you!!!

Keep going! Our girl! Fight for us , for the country.

Hillary is the Best Candidate.

1. She can dodge sniper fire.
2. Even though more people support Obama, she got the popular vote
3. Cheating is good if it benefits her, nobody need to follow rules
4. Bill and Hillary pushed NAFTA, but she doesn't support it
5. She can balance the national budget, but she owes 20mil to her Campaign
6. Want to pull troops out of IRAQ but voted to send them there in the first place.

Vote for Hill we need to keep the status quo

This is disgrace to demoncratic party what Hillary is doing to the demoncratic party and Obama why are the higher demoncratic politician steping in to stop her for destroying the party I swear I will never vote again if Hillary is the nonimee she is disgrace

The Clinton campaign and supporters have every right to have their voices heard. That said, I trust the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee will come to a fair and final decision on May 31st. We can then look forward to June 3rd and then fully unite behind our Democratic nominee for President. Anything beyond that, including talk or threats of taking the race all the way to the convention, is absoultely unacceptable and further more will not happen.

Look at the firestorm Hillary is creating. What she is doing is counter productive to the Democratic Party. I've never seen a Presidential Candidate behave in such a manner.

All I have to say is this is out of control. Every day I lose a little more respect for her. Rules are rules… and while I agree the delegates should be seated, they should be seated fairly. I would have voted for her if she was the nominee– but now she is turning me off completely. She wants to stand up and show woman who support her what??!! Her strength? Her perseverance? This is a debacle.

This is getting more and more disgusting by the day! No rspect for Clinton at all. If she had not sign and stated that FL and MI would not count it would be different.

All she wants is chaos if things aren't going her way. How about the voices of the people who followed the rules??? Disgusting

Wow I find it amusing that all of a sudden, Florida and Michigan mean so much to the Clinton Campaign. Where was Hillary when the leadership in Michigan and Florida decided to play by thier own rules? Do you want to know where? She was too busy blowing off Iowa as a fluke win by Obama and she had it in her mind that she had the nomination in the bag, well, now she wants to do something about those delegates. I say let them scream as loud as they want, but DNC, do not let Clinton manipulate the primary process. They (Florida and Michigan) were told not to change thier dates or else and they did, well you have to pay the price. And if the people of Florida and Michigan had any commen sense, they should have protested the decision to change their primary date. Hey Florida and Michigan, here is a bit of advice, the General Election is on November 4, 2008, if you try to change that date and vote earlier, your vote will not count. Got it? Now go back to shoveling snow in Michigan or baking your skin in Florida and shut up already. Your argument is pointless.

Think about it Michigan and Florida voters. She abandoned you back in January by voting to boycott your states. And yet now you really believe she has your interests in mind? Do you really think she would have the same attitude if she were winning and Obama had won those states?

Stop and think…just for a second…just once in your life.

Are they purposely trying to ruin the chances for the democratic party this november. McCain has had since February to unify his party, raise money, have rallies in many states and search for his VP. Hillary had no problem with the invalid florida and michigan results until she started losing.

With all the building controversy over the Michigan and Florida votes, nobody has said what happened to the leaders who decided to hold their primaries early.
Weren’t they warned not to go early and the consequences if the do?
If so, aren’t they the ones responsible for knowingly trashing millions of votes?

My question is, what happened to these Michigan and Florida leaders?

I am Canadian
Calvin

Hillary , please stop it! ,is so important to you ,
you have been out
done , give it up , and pick your face up off the ground and get behind

Mr Obama and Party

This is cazy… Hillary should be stopped!!!!! She's acting like a KID!!! "If I can't have it, I will destroy it for Obama… "

I am a African American woman, and if Hillary try to do what I think she's about to do, there will be outrage….

ENOUGH ALREADY!

To Hillary, her campaign and her dillusional supporters please stop with all this nonsense. You are still behind in every category that matters most including Florida and Michigan won't help your cause. I'm sorry "sweetie" its officially over for you!

WOW SHE WILL TRY ANYTHING

I WILL BE THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure if my last comment was accepted or not, so once again, for the benefit of those who missed it:

Clinton and Lieberman should just go ahead and join the GOP instead of doing their dirty work for them. The sooner, the better.

How low will Clinton go to steal the nomination? She agreed to these rules beforehand. She even stated on NPR radio in October 2007 that MI and FL do not count. Now that she is losing it's an entirely different story. I hope not only does she lose the nomination but also her seat in the Senate.

The Superdelegates need to man-up and end this nonsense before it's President McCain.

As a Michigan Democrat, it would be nice to have my voice heard.

On the primary day here, since our votes were not going to count, and since my candidate of choice was not on the ballot, I decided against taking the time off from work to vote for no one.

How can I be heard?

What about others like me who couldn't vote for their preferred candidate and/or simply didn't vote that day?

Hill.Bill.y + Obama = a wining team

absolutely we deserve our votes to stand. Punish the idiots that changed the primary date, not the voters or the winning candidate, Senator Clinton. Obama doesn't stand a chance against McCain and they are only figuring this out now… however, Clinton supporters have been well aware all along. Overwhelming black vote doesn't carry further then the Carolinas'.

No, your purpose is to give the nomination to the whiney lady in the pant suit. What part of "didn't follow the rules" don't you idiots understand??? If there is a way for the Clinton family to just "take" the nomination, they will find it. And you can bet they will stop at nothing. Hillary and her family should be very proud of themselves. They are certainly sending Chelsea a message on fighting fairly. Obama will win the nomination and Hillary will get second or third or fourth best. Deal with it!!!!

Obama

All the votes in MI and FL should definitely be counted, but what should the penalty be for both states moving their primaries against party rules? I would like to hear suggestions for HRC supporters and I'm earnest about this. I want to know what you think is fair under the circumstances. Lets come together to resolve this issue in a way that is truly fair to both campaigns, but more so for the Dems.

If Hillary was in the lead this would never be an issue and no one can say otherwise.

The purpose of this is to ensure Barack loses the general election this year and give Hillary an opening for 2012. And I will vote against her then too!

Oh goodness. The states may be seated but not the way Hillary wants them to be. This entire situation is a mess and while I agree there needs to be a resolution, I don't agree with how Hillary is handling it. Encouraging people to "rally" really is not the right way to go. If it gets out of hand, she should be the one to blame.

Why can't she stay out of it until the committee meets on May 31st? SMH!

Oh please, more drama. All she does is whine, whine, whine. Poor little rich girl. I'm so over her.

Let's just give her the nomination!!!!! I won't vote anyway. This makes me sick!!!

I can not help but to blame it all on the superdelegates who have not endorsed Obama as yet. They could have finished this nonsense. They still could if the move fast. I see nothing but trouble from this rally and a great damage to the party. These elders of the party seem not caring about the party at all. We all know Clintons and her supporters don't.

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I’ll rise.
~Maya Angelou

HILLARY……….WAY TO GO…………NOT !!!!!! IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, ISN'T IT?? NOT THE PARTY, NOT DEFEATING MCCAIN….JUST YOU. HOW SELFISH CAN YOU BE???

THE DNC WILL SEAT FL AND MI….IN SOME FASHION….THEY HAVE ALREADY STATED THIS. SO YOUR "SHOW" IS FOR THE SUPER-DELEGATES, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

BUT DISMISSING THE "MATH", AND BY DISENFRANCHISING ALL THE VOTES CAST IN CAUCUS STATES (the places you lost don't count, but the places you won mean everything, right??) SHOW YOU FOR JUST WHO YOU ARE…..AN ARROGANT, OLD-STYLE POL, WHO WILL LIE, CHEAT, IGNORE THE RULES AND DO WHAT'S NEEDED FOR YOUR OWN POWER AND GLORY.

WE DON'T NEED MORE OF YOUR TYPE…….WE'VE MOVED TO A BETTER PLACE (and that place is MUCH better without a Clinton).

OK so it is OK to change the rules after the game is played and your losing. Sounds like another Clinton interpretation, if you don't like it outcome change the rules to your favor. Why is the DNC so afraid of the Clinton's?

It isn't going to change the numbers enough for you to take the lead. I am so sick of the Clintons right now. You are the most divisive candidate I've ever seen. Up until the past 2 weeks I was fine with you continuing the race til the end. However with the comments you and Bill continue to make there won't be a Democratic party left to vote for by the time you're done destroying it. I have to give Obama credit for not sinking down to your level. You've got plenty of baggage he could bring into this campaign to end it right now.

The only visions I see right now of you and your family:
Democratic Convention: Security pulling you off the floor in a straight jacket because you still refuse to believe you lost.
By some fluke you make it to the White House: Finding Bill in the Oval Office with an intern under the desk again.

I can't think of anything postive right now coming from your campaign.

THIS IS FOOLISH ATTEMP. Hillary is cheater and liar. You have already lost your game hillary.
Obama08.

She is crazy, so disgusting. She is playing fire which will destroy the DNC. Where is the leadership of DNC?

Well I guess this is a big group of people who:

1. Have their bills in order
2. Have no credit problems
3. Have their children raised by a family member instead of television or day care
4. Have their careers are fully in line with where they want to be in their life.
5. Have addressed all other household issues
6. And have addressed all needs, wants, and issues that their spouse or life partner need addressed.

Because I can't think of a bigger waste of time than protesting a decision that was made because those two states broke the rules. States that KNEW they weren't going to be counted, and these people went to vote anyways. Go protest at your own state lawmakers who screwed you by putting thier political agenda ahead of what they knew the consequences are, then dodged responsibility in the interest of continuing to be elected to do absolutely nothing.

HIllary needs to take Joe Lieberman with her and join the GOP. They're doing the Republicans' dirty work for them, so why not?

Ms. Clinton, Please stop. This is low even for you. You are not helping your negative rating. I am all for woman power and fighting a good fight, but how good is it if you cheat to win. You have tried everything and Obama still keeps the lead. Again, please stop this while you still have your dignity and the respect of a few of us.

Thanks to the undecided super delegates! Some of them are Clinton supporters of course, but some of them are those people who just want to see how badly Clinton can spoil this for Obama! What they don't understand is that it's only 30% of the superdelegates that are allowing the process to be compromised, the larger majority of decisive superdelegates that clearly understand their role have done the right thing, endorse the candidate of their choice. That's all it's about, endorse the candidate of your choice. Don't make it complex and pretend you're more thoughtful about it. That way it will be clear who our nominee is and this huge joke will be over….

Nonsense: I am a law maker, former first lady, presidential candidate, I create the rules that I follow because I am above every other rules even thought I attested to it and conforms with the constitution that guarantees my running as a potential presidential candidate: Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Irrespective of what Senator Clinton tactics is this race is, she will lose woefully!!

Even as we still counting votes Obama is looking for a VP… He does not seem to care that much that the votes are counted just like W.

I think he should rap this up first… Is arrogant and ignoring this will hurt him in November.

GO CLINTON GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is trying to suck up to Floridians after he blocked their opportunity
for a re-vote. He only cares about your vote if he can win in your state. Nobody's fooled. Obama would lose Florida to McCain. Not to mention Ohio and Penn.
He threw a lot of money at WV and KY, but didn't even bother to go into the states and get to know people and understand their issues. It was arrogant and insulting. Clinton campaigned hard in states she was sure to lose. As President Clinton wants to do what she has been doing for 35 years-helping all Americans. Obama just wants to be President.

What a shame!

This woman had agreed not to count the votes when she thought she was the crowned nominee! Now she is going to tear up the party just for her own benefit!

It's amazing how HRC can FOOL voters!

Shame on you Hillary!

I wish I could be there, but I have to work. I have sent my protest letter to the DNC and urge every supporter to e-mail there position to the DNC. Write Hillary Clinton on your ballot in November..

Does MAJORITY OF DELEGATES mean anything?? Come on Hillary supporters………..it's OVER.

If your purpose is to not attack the DNC or divide the party………then what the hell are you doing?

Howard Dean said the votes would be seated, so SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!

I swear, just more people whinning in "political correctness" America. What ever happened to taking a loss and moving on?

Kids don't lose anymore in games…..it's called a tie. There are last place trophies, participation awards……..There are mercy scores in games………

We have lost our competitive spirit in which there is a winner and loser. GET OVER IT, HILLARY LOST!!

Besides the obvious facts such as these, both the media and her crazy supporters push on………THANKS FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF BUSH BECAUSE YOU DIVIDED THE PARTY!!!

THAT'S THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD OF!!!

First they were so concerned that FL and MI would not be counted because they believed so strongly in democracy, now they want to pressure the DNC into that voodoo that Hill-do so well. It appears they only want the type of democracy that picks their candidate.

Democracy has spoken and it has picked Obama. Now the Clinton people are just becoming annoying

That is clearly what their intent is. To destroy the party and Obama's chance of winning the nomination. These people were well informed of the consequences of them voting early, but they yet chose to do so anyway, despite the punishment imposed.

Clinton doesn't deserve to be President, if this is allowed. She also recognized and upheld the rules of the DNC and was informed of such punishment. Now just because she sees her chance of being President slipping away.

This is nothing but an outright attempt to steal the nomination from Barak Obama. This man has withstood her "attacks", her kitchen sink strategy.

If the DNC listen to this it would be a disservice to all those who fought long and hard to support their candidates. It's not only unfair to Obama, but to Edwards as well. It's time for Hilliary to sit down and accept what she can't change.

I hope this gets slapped back in their faces. They accepted the rules and the punishment, now they want to change them.

Anyone with the name Clinton could no get elected dog catcher anymore. To bad because Chelsea might have had a future. But Hillary's selfishness has soiled the name.

They are trying to make the votes count but hillary want everything her way and and the fair and right way.

I honestly do not understand what this rally is all about, because the DNC has already agreed that the delegates from Florida and Michigan will be seated. The only point here is that they wil be seated in a way that is fair even for the other 48 states that did not break the rules. Hilarys argument is that they should be seated as is…honestly…..America, Lets be sensible. Apart from the fact that Bill was in Florida fund raisng , when the primaries were taking place…which obviuosly boosted Hilarys numbers, because Obama was not well known then, this was January……Peiople in Florida and Michigan knew that the delegates would not count. How can we reward breaking rules just to favor Hilary,, when she knows really well that her argument is realy not coming from a point of integrity?

If Hilary had won Iowa, or currently ahd the most ledged delegates , this would obviuosly not be the case…as a leader, she should accept the results of the election, she accepted and signed to the rules before she begun this race, she has lost but now wants to win no matter what way…in a way this reallt is dividing the party…..
mccain 08/12.

all this is doing is creating a rift in the party. she has lost the nomination, its time for the healing process of the party to begin. she needs to set her ego aside and back out. even with florida and michigan she doesn't pull ahead of obama in pledge delegates, superdelegates, or popular vote (she isn't counting 13 of 14 caucus states obama won when she lays claim to the popular vote)

Along with helping "enfranchise" Florida and Michigan Democratic voters (I voted in the Florida primary so I don't feel I was disenfranchised), I hope Senator Clinton will also repudiate racism in the President primary, as well as sexism.

Oh for God's sake just give her those delegates, let her play dirty, she still won't win the nomination. God I feel sorry for Bill, the nagging she must do at home.

I've been cheated, been mistreated
When will I……..find love?

While she's there could she explain why she wants all the delegates when Barack's name wasn't even on the ballot. Oh, I forget, that means she has to think of someone other than herself. Whatever.

Bill, just hug your wife and take her home….it's over.

O/08

Great! a bunch of feminist losers in one spot. No place in the world I'd rather be; except of course in the fiery pits of hell being forced to eat tack nails.

Really Ridiculous
Hillary is pathetic….Be the nominee or damage the party…I'am pretty sure the superdelegates will not let her pursue her fool ambition…the vote has bennorganised in 47 states and Obama has won…Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan.How can the dcn count that vote ? Even if dnc gives her 60 % of both Mi and FL,she will be behind obama in the number of delegates and popular vote..

Hillary ,please drop..you are just helping MCCain…hillary cannot win..
Ridiculous…
Superdelagates are watching this crazyness …they have to make up their mind right now and endorse the candidate who got the majority of delegates..that is what the rukes said…

oh this should be fun to watch!

OBAMA 08!

Hillary Clinton and her supporters are making a laughing stock out of the democratic process in the US. Is this the message you want to send to the world? Democracy is only democracy when it achieves a pre-determined outcome?
The entire world knows that Hillary Clinton signed an agreement regarding the illegitimacy of the FL and MI votes prior to the primaries. Would you or any world leader ever enter into an agreement with Hillary Clinton as President, knowing full well that she will abrogate any agreement if it suits her twisted sense of morality or fairness?
Hillary Clinton is divisive, polarizing, a liar and untrustworthy, plain and simple!
The US (and I do indeed admire many in the US greatly) is coming out looking like idiots in this whole process. The people of Florida are coming out looking particularly like a bunch of raving lunatics who do not have any conception of fairness, justice, democracy, the law or legal agreements!

Take this away from Obama and there will be civil war. We DON'T want you Hillary. She wouldn't win MI if the vote was today. That is why she wants it so bad. It was not a fair vote and she knows it. She knows she couldn't carry MI today. Please God!! Make her go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're playing right? You can't possibly be reporting the truth. A rally?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Since when has picketing or "swarming" ever worked? People, whether she is the better "general election" candidate or not, Barack Obama has won the most pledged delegates, the most states, the most superdelegates, and yes (going by the rules) the most overall votes. How can you not say he is our candidate? You claim that your intentions are true democracy in having the people of Michigan and Florida heard, but yet you also want the poeple's choice to be overturned by party officials (who, by the way, aren't buying into this crazy concept). This is hypocracy at its finest, ladies and gentlemen. Hillary was a strong candidate, but she underestimated Barack Obama and really shot herself in the foot by not having a strategy past Feb. 5, which lead to all the spontaneous negativity. Sorry, Clinton supporters, but Obama is going to be our nominee, and with your help, the next president of the United States. Lets get past this pety issue and come together to re-focus on the real goal: taking back the White House in november!

Five Democrats withdraw from Michigan's January 15 primary; Sen. Clinton will not withdraw from Michigan primary, campaign says …

Since Clinton would NOT remove her name from the ballot when five others removed theirs from the against-the-rules primary, it is not clear to me how she expects to have any of the votes count. This woman would do or say ANYTHING to have her way or to create the 'popular vote'. Does she have any principles at all? I didn't think so……..

Say one thing… "this is not to tear the party apart"

Do another… get your way .. or… TEAR THE PARTY APART

Clinton, Lieberman, Republicans………..

she is LITERALLY holding the party hostage….

Since the DNC acted against FL and MI, Sen. Clinton has stated that she would do all she could to see those delegates seated–this is before 2008. Why was Obama's name still on the Florida ballot even though he asked for his name not to appear on the Michigan ballot?

She is a crude deceptive liar. The lowest form of a human being. Self serving and willing to destroy her party if she can't get what she wants. LIAR LIAR LIAR>

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