Comments on: Ellen asks McCain to walk her down the aisle http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: sig http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126276 sig Thu, 22 May 2008 19:16:51 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126276 Hey Eugenio (and everyone else who holds your opinion) The gay marriage movement has NO business being compared to the civil rights movement concerning African Americans. For starters, AAs were seeking equal access to voting rights in the same manner to which other Americans were currently entitled (one person, one vote). The were not seeking a new or special "black right to vote." Today, all Americans have the equal right to marry one person of the opposite sex. Gay marriage advocates want access to a special (new) right of marriage just for gays (one person of the same sex). Whatever your thoughts about gay marriage being right or wrong, you must acknowledge this fact. One other thing, racism against AAs was/is based on nothing more than skin color and stereotypes. A black man's behavior didn't prevent racism, he was still hated because of his color. Gays are opposed mainly due to what is widely perceived as socially deviant behavior (sex w/ same gender), not because of outward appearance. If a gay man walks into a room and "acts straight", homophobic people will not attack him as there is no outward indication of his sexual orientation. If a black man walks into a room filled with racists and "acts white" (whatever that is), he's not so fortunate. Hey Eugenio (and everyone else who holds your opinion)

The gay marriage movement has NO business being compared to the civil rights movement concerning African Americans.

For starters, AAs were seeking equal access to voting rights in the same manner to which other Americans were currently entitled (one person, one vote). The were not seeking a new or special "black right to vote."

Today, all Americans have the equal right to marry one person of the opposite sex. Gay marriage advocates want access to a special (new) right of marriage just for gays (one person of the same sex). Whatever your thoughts about gay marriage being right or wrong, you must acknowledge this fact.

One other thing, racism against AAs was/is based on nothing more than skin color and stereotypes. A black man's behavior didn't prevent racism, he was still hated because of his color. Gays are opposed mainly due to what is widely perceived as socially deviant behavior (sex w/ same gender), not because of outward appearance. If a gay man walks into a room and "acts straight", homophobic people will not attack him as there is no outward indication of his sexual orientation.

If a black man walks into a room filled with racists and "acts white" (whatever that is), he's not so fortunate.

]]> By: Joshua http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126260 Joshua Thu, 22 May 2008 19:12:21 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126260 The only way that gay marriage can be compared to blacks is the right of blacks to marry blacks (denied during slavery) and miscegenation laws. I'm all for LGBT rights, but most of the black/woman issues where completely different, no one denies gays the right to vote, or the right to use the "straight" water fountain. The only way that gay marriage can be compared to blacks is the right of blacks to marry blacks (denied during slavery) and miscegenation laws. I'm all for LGBT rights, but most of the black/woman issues where completely different, no one denies gays the right to vote, or the right to use the "straight" water fountain.

]]> By: Pondering http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126255 Pondering Thu, 22 May 2008 19:10:19 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126255 So, gays haven't had it as hard as blacks? The gay rights movement is just not comparable because blacks have it so hard? What planet are you from? Yes, gays can possibly hide it, whereas blacks cannot. But gays are still killed because they are gay. Gays are still fired because they are gay, or not hired. Large numbers of voters want to ban gays from marrying, and even to ban laws that give some civil rights protections to gays. We have a black man as the presumptive presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. Gays in politics? Sure, a few. But most are in the closet, pretend to be rabidly anti-gay, and have sham marriages - then, when they are caught, they have to resign from office. We are very, very far from having an openly gay president. So, gays haven't had it as hard as blacks? The gay rights movement is just not comparable because blacks have it so hard? What planet are you from? Yes, gays can possibly hide it, whereas blacks cannot.

But gays are still killed because they are gay. Gays are still fired because they are gay, or not hired. Large numbers of voters want to ban gays from marrying, and even to ban laws that give some civil rights protections to gays. We have a black man as the presumptive presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. Gays in politics? Sure, a few. But most are in the closet, pretend to be rabidly anti-gay, and have sham marriages – then, when they are caught, they have to resign from office. We are very, very far from having an openly gay president.

]]> By: People of America - Unite http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126241 People of America - Unite Thu, 22 May 2008 19:05:46 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126241 I am a black person and I believe that the struggle for gay people IS the same as what blacks went through. The problem is people just found another group of people that are different. And because they are different we try to say somehow they are not worthy of what things "normal" people enjoy. I know that some black people don't see the connection. But it is very real. To deny any person, ANY right is WRONG. And black people have not been given everything (to the ignorant commentator above) If all the people in this country who are discrimminated against for what ever reason, (blacks, poor white people, gays, hispanics, asians, native americans) would get together, find our common ground to make our goals reality, we would be the majority and improve this country. That is at the core of Obama's message. We need to work together on our commonalities. Why are we so divided, when it doesn't help any of us. I am a black person and I believe that the struggle for gay people IS the same as what blacks went through.

The problem is people just found another group of people that are different. And because they are different we try to say somehow they are not worthy of what things "normal" people enjoy. I know that some black people don't see the connection. But it is very real. To deny any person, ANY right is WRONG.

And black people have not been given everything (to the ignorant commentator above)

If all the people in this country who are discrimminated against for what ever reason, (blacks, poor white people, gays, hispanics, asians, native americans) would get together, find our common ground to make our goals reality, we would be the majority and improve this country.

That is at the core of Obama's message. We need to work together on our commonalities. Why are we so divided, when it doesn't help any of us.

]]> By: JC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126233 JC Thu, 22 May 2008 19:03:55 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126233 Eugenio, while I am not African American myself the struggles are not the same and are in no way similar to each other. The majority of African Americans will tell you that. There is no good reason to allow gay marriage and if they kept it their own business as they should few people would bother them. Instead they insist on having their childish "gay pride" parades and insist the definition of marriage be changed to suit their needs. Eugenio, while I am not African American myself the struggles are not the same and are in no way similar to each other. The majority of African Americans will tell you that. There is no good reason to allow gay marriage and if they kept it their own business as they should few people would bother them. Instead they insist on having their childish "gay pride" parades and insist the definition of marriage be changed to suit their needs.

]]> By: K of TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126231 K of TX Thu, 22 May 2008 19:03:36 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126231 While I appreciate McCain's "eloquent defense" of his argument, I am staunchly against religion imposing itself in the form of government policy. I myself do not favor marriage between te same sex for personal reasons, but DO NOT SUPPORT GIVING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE POWER TO DECIDE THOSE LIFESTYLE ISSUES FOR ITS CITIZENS. While I appreciate McCain's "eloquent defense" of his argument, I am staunchly against religion imposing itself in the form of government policy. I myself do not favor marriage between te same sex for personal reasons, but DO NOT SUPPORT GIVING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE POWER TO DECIDE THOSE LIFESTYLE ISSUES FOR ITS CITIZENS.

]]> By: Raffi http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126225 Raffi Thu, 22 May 2008 19:01:19 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126225 Equal Right=Equal Rights and that is what this country is founded on, our civil liberties. The ban on gay marriage is a religous influenced law which should be trashed. Religion should play no part in politics. If you want religion in your government, there are plenty of countries out there that may suit you better (i.e. Iran, Suadi Arabia, ect..). Having religion play a part in modern American government is an oxymoron and goes against the foundation in which this country has been built on. Equal Right=Equal Rights and that is what this country is founded on, our civil liberties. The ban on gay marriage is a religous influenced law which should be trashed. Religion should play no part in politics. If you want religion in your government, there are plenty of countries out there that may suit you better (i.e. Iran, Suadi Arabia, ect..). Having religion play a part in modern American government is an oxymoron and goes against the foundation in which this country has been built on.

]]> By: Ann http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126223 Ann Thu, 22 May 2008 19:01:13 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126223 So unbiblical! I love Ellen..she's great...but the bible is very clear on this issue (1 Corinthians) and we will all stand before God one day. But it is His judgement call so we have to let Him be the one to judge. All we can do is try to live our lives according to His will and answer for ourselves. But, try as they might, gays can not change what the bible says. You can not put a question mark where God has put a period. So unbiblical! I love Ellen..she's great...but the bible is very clear on this issue (1 Corinthians) and we will all stand before God one day. But it is His judgement call so we have to let Him be the one to judge. All we can do is try to live our lives according to His will and answer for ourselves. But, try as they might, gays can not change what the bible says. You can not put a question mark where God has put a period.

]]> By: Bob, Hamilton http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126217 Bob, Hamilton Thu, 22 May 2008 19:00:03 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126217 The Funny thing here is comparing Gay marriages right to African Americans Suffrage right or Womens right. These things are not related at all if you look at it from the learned point of view. This shows how illiterate so many people are including Ellen. The Funny thing here is comparing Gay marriages right to African Americans Suffrage right or Womens right. These things are not related at all if you look at it from the learned point of view.

This shows how illiterate so many people are including Ellen.

]]> By: Vern http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126215 Vern Thu, 22 May 2008 18:59:27 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126215 To the comment made by "no Obama never" that black people get everything! Tell that to the black slaves that help build this country or the the blacks in the 60's that ware lynched, beaten & had no rights..or even today to the blacks who are first judgeed by their skin color & not their character. To the comment made by "no Obama never" that black people get everything! Tell that to the black slaves that help build this country or the the blacks in the 60's that ware lynched, beaten & had no rights..or even today to the blacks who are first judgeed by their skin color & not their character.

]]> By: SF Christo http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126214 SF Christo Thu, 22 May 2008 18:59:06 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126214 yardstylze wrote: "Gays are not in the same situation on Black…they were not lynched, rape, enslaved, treated as less than human, could not be with a white man or woman that they loved…had churches burned to the ground, had dogs set on them…got bomb threats…." Wow, yardstylze, you don't know much gay history. The Nazis executed over 600,000 gays and lesbians. Gays still have businesses and homes burned down. There are a lot of threats, stabbings, and beatings (I myself was a victim of a beating in Washington, DC). We live in fear a good bit of the time. And we also "could not be with a white man or woman" we love! Think about it. I can't get married to my male partner so I also can't be with the man I love! And we have to hide our relationship when we travel to be sure we are in safe company first. You aren't the only oppressed minority group. Every minority needs help from other people to secure their rights. There weren't enough African Americans to do it (12%) alone. You needed some white help in the 40's-->60's. Guess what, a lot of my gay friends were out there with blacks protesting on school campuses and in front of state houses. How about seeing the similarities and offering help instead of looking for differences. Or is it just going to be a case of you saying, "We've got ours now (black acceptance), so screw you"? . yardstylze wrote: "Gays are not in the same situation on Black…they were not lynched, rape, enslaved, treated as less than human, could not be with a white man or woman that they loved…had churches burned to the ground, had dogs set on them…got bomb threats…."

Wow, yardstylze, you don't know much gay history. The Nazis executed over 600,000 gays and lesbians. Gays still have businesses and homes burned down. There are a lot of threats, stabbings, and beatings (I myself was a victim of a beating in Washington, DC). We live in fear a good bit of the time.

And we also "could not be with a white man or woman" we love! Think about it. I can't get married to my male partner so I also can't be with the man I love! And we have to hide our relationship when we travel to be sure we are in safe company first.

You aren't the only oppressed minority group. Every minority needs help from other people to secure their rights. There weren't enough African Americans to do it (12%) alone. You needed some white help in the 40's–>60's. Guess what, a lot of my gay friends were out there with blacks protesting on school campuses and in front of state houses.

How about seeing the similarities and offering help instead of looking for differences. Or is it just going to be a case of you saying, "We've got ours now (black acceptance), so screw you"?
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]]> By: What?? http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126199 What?? Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:26 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126199 Should each state decide?? What if each state were allowed to decide to free slaves or not. We would still have a divided nation. McCrazy is saying that states have a right to decide to give a civil right on the basis of what?? Civil rights should be inforced by the national government. When is our country going to stop marginalizing different groups of people?? Should each state decide?? What if each state were allowed to decide to free slaves or not. We would still have a divided nation.

McCrazy is saying that states have a right to decide to give a civil right on the basis of what?? Civil rights should be inforced by the national government.

When is our country going to stop marginalizing different groups of people??

]]> By: Tonya J. White http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126197 Tonya J. White Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:01 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126197 Being browned skinned is not something I can change. It is a decision God made when I was formed. However, being gay is a choice one makes each day. I don't see the comparison and people who do are ignorant not the ones who don't. One is a choice and one isn't. Being browned skinned is not something I can change. It is a decision God made when I was formed. However, being gay is a choice one makes each day. I don't see the comparison and people who do are ignorant not the ones who don't. One is a choice and one isn't.

]]> By: Ann Brown http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126188 Ann Brown Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:02 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126188 Considering more than 99% of the people are gay or support gay rights, McCain has just handed the presidency to Obama. McCain should just withdraw now and let us stop wasting time on this election. Let's talk about high gas prices and what the old farts in congress haven't done about it. It's time for progressive thinking. It's time to stop the destruction of the poor. It's time to stop the rich from stuffing their pockets with more, more, more money. It's time for Obama to be president NOW. Considering more than 99% of the people are gay or support gay rights, McCain has just handed the presidency to Obama. McCain should just withdraw now and let us stop wasting time on this election. Let's talk about high gas prices and what the old farts in congress haven't done about it. It's time for progressive thinking. It's time to stop the destruction of the poor. It's time to stop the rich from stuffing their pockets with more, more, more money. It's time for Obama to be president NOW.

]]> By: AZM http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126185 AZM Thu, 22 May 2008 18:53:51 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126185 I'd be he'd do it if she would be his escort at a NRA convention... I like Ellen... she's pretty cool... and I think McCain handled himself very well on an issue he didn't support... well done.... agree or not! I'd be he'd do it if she would be his escort at a NRA convention...

I like Ellen... she's pretty cool... and I think McCain handled himself very well on an issue he didn't support... well done.... agree or not!

]]> By: Linned http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126184 Linned Thu, 22 May 2008 18:53:44 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126184 I believe in judge ye not less ye be judged. But, the civil rights comparison to me is different - unless you have walked a mile in an African American persons shoe you have no idea. I believe in judge ye not less ye be judged. But, the civil rights comparison to me is different – unless you have walked a mile in an African American persons shoe you have no idea.

]]> By: Terrence (Winston Salem, NC) http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126158 Terrence (Winston Salem, NC) Thu, 22 May 2008 18:49:31 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126158 Gay rights is not to be equated to Civil Rights... Gay rights is not to be equated to Civil Rights...

]]> By: kam http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126156 kam Thu, 22 May 2008 18:49:09 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126156 Marriage is not a right. It's a legal contract. The government — by extension, the people — have the authority to set limits and eligibility for such contracts. Therefore, if the people do not want same-sex couples to marry, that is within their "right." Ellen — have sex with whomever you want. But please don't correlate sex to marriage. Marriage is not a right. It's a legal contract. The government — by extension, the people — have the authority to set limits and eligibility for such contracts. Therefore, if the people do not want same-sex couples to marry, that is within their "right." Ellen — have sex with whomever you want. But please don't correlate sex to marriage.

]]> By: julie - oakland, ca http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126155 julie - oakland, ca Thu, 22 May 2008 18:48:54 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126155 SHE DIDN'T COMPARE THE 'GAY MOVEMENT' TO THE STRUGGLES OF BLACK AMERICA...SHE COMPARED IT TO THE SUFFRAGETTE MOVEMENT AFFECTING WOMEN AND AFRICAN AMERICANS.....READ THE ARTICLE PEOPLE...............UGH........................................I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I COME HERE AND PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS THAT DO NOT EVEN PERTAIN TO THE STORY AT HAND! PS OBAMA WILL NOT BEAT MCAIN. GET YER HEDS OUT YER ARSES....TALK ABOUT EGO....DO YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT IN OFFICE OR AN AFRICAN AMERICAN AS THE NOMINEE? BECAUSE THERE WILL NOT BE BOTH. WHO HAS THE EGO? HILLARY 08 (BESIDE SHE WILL DO MORE AS A SENATOR THAN OBAMA EVER WILL AS PRESIDENT....WOULD HE EVEN BE AROUND...OR WOULD HE CONTINUE TO VOTE 'NOT PRESENT'?) SHE DIDN'T COMPARE THE 'GAY MOVEMENT' TO THE STRUGGLES OF BLACK AMERICA...SHE COMPARED IT TO THE SUFFRAGETTE MOVEMENT AFFECTING WOMEN AND AFRICAN AMERICANS.....READ THE ARTICLE PEOPLE...............UGH........................................I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I COME HERE AND PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS THAT DO NOT EVEN PERTAIN TO THE STORY AT HAND!

PS
OBAMA WILL NOT BEAT MCAIN. GET YER HEDS OUT YER ARSES....TALK ABOUT EGO....DO YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT IN OFFICE OR AN AFRICAN AMERICAN AS THE NOMINEE? BECAUSE THERE WILL NOT BE BOTH.

WHO HAS THE EGO?

HILLARY 08

(BESIDE SHE WILL DO MORE AS A SENATOR THAN OBAMA EVER WILL AS PRESIDENT....WOULD HE EVEN BE AROUND...OR WOULD HE CONTINUE TO VOTE 'NOT PRESENT'?)

]]> By: Richard http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126148 Richard Thu, 22 May 2008 18:46:58 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126148 That is such an odd combination.. Why is McCain on that show? That is such an odd combination.. Why is McCain on that show?

]]> By: Jill http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126144 Jill Thu, 22 May 2008 18:46:19 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126144 I really liked Obama until I saw Bobby Jindal. Jindal is a reformer who has the accomplishments you would expect out of Obama at 46, while Obama has the accomplishments you would expect out of a man at 36. If Jindal gets the VP nod, McCain gets my vote. Democrat voting Republican in '08 I really liked Obama until I saw Bobby Jindal. Jindal is a reformer who has the accomplishments you would expect out of Obama at 46, while Obama has the accomplishments you would expect out of a man at 36.

If Jindal gets the VP nod, McCain gets my vote.

Democrat voting Republican in '08

]]> By: Justme WV http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126134 Justme WV Thu, 22 May 2008 18:43:24 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126134 As much as I love Ellen, her lifestyle is an abomination against my God. Its hers to choose, but marriage is between man and woman and only man and woman. Then to group Gay rights with Civil Rights is a slap in the face of all who suffered and still suffer because of the color of their skin. McCain was right to be a little squeamish in that situation..so would I. OBAMA 08 As much as I love Ellen, her lifestyle is an abomination against my God. Its hers to choose, but marriage is between man and woman and only man and woman. Then to group Gay rights with Civil Rights is a slap in the face of all who suffered and still suffer because of the color of their skin. McCain was right to be a little squeamish in that situation..so would I.

OBAMA 08

]]> By: TMY714 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126113 TMY714 Thu, 22 May 2008 18:40:29 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126113 Marriage is a result of 2 things : 1) acknowledgment 2) tax benefits. If it was considered sacred, there should be severe punishment for divorce. I've known couples who've lived together far longer than the length of marriages. As for comparing gay marriages to the civil rights movement. Yes things were unfair for the blacks back then. Now, the blacks like to complain about EVERYTHING. They still complain about slavery as if they're EXPERIENCING slavery for god sakes! Marriage is a result of 2 things : 1) acknowledgment 2) tax benefits.

If it was considered sacred, there should be severe punishment for divorce. I've known couples who've lived together far longer than the length of marriages.

As for comparing gay marriages to the civil rights movement. Yes things were unfair for the blacks back then. Now, the blacks like to complain about EVERYTHING. They still complain about slavery as if they're EXPERIENCING slavery for god sakes!

]]> By: Hillary Huckabee Romney McCain Rodham Clinton http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126106 Hillary Huckabee Romney McCain Rodham Clinton Thu, 22 May 2008 18:39:15 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126106 Just proves one thing: He's a bigger panderer than Hil-lie-ary Clinton! Say anything, do anything and deny everything ... even when it's on audio or video to prove otherwise. Just proves one thing: He's a bigger panderer than Hil-lie-ary Clinton! Say anything, do anything and deny everything ... even when it's on audio or video to prove otherwise.

]]> By: HIllary Delegate-Alternate http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126085 HIllary Delegate-Alternate Thu, 22 May 2008 18:34:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126085 If Obama is handed the nomination by the Super Delegates, start getting used to saying "Presdient McCain." Obama can't carry most of the states that HIllary carried, and those are the big ones... the ones needed to win in November. Look at the states he has won -- most are either caucus states, where there was no popular vote taken and only a small percentage of voters participate, or states with large numbers of black voters. Caucusus are not democratic (no vote by mail and are held over just a couple hours, not a whole day) and they are run by the parties with volunteers, so there are few controls in place and no government oversight. The votes are public, too, so people are vulnerable to threat and intimidation, like the restaurant workers in Nevada who were thereatened with being docked a full day if they voted for Clinton. They are ripe for abuse. I know -- I was there. I saw what went on in Nevada. It was only their courage -- pulling on Hillary shirts and walking into the casino caucuses -- that saved the day for Hillary in that caucus state in defiance of their union bosses. There are no caucuses in November -- how is he going to win the swing states where Hillary has been strong? If Obama is handed the nomination by the Super Delegates, start getting used to saying "Presdient McCain." Obama can't carry most of the states that HIllary carried, and those are the big ones... the ones needed to win in November.

Look at the states he has won - most are either caucus states, where there was no popular vote taken and only a small percentage of voters participate, or states with large numbers of black voters. Caucusus are not democratic (no vote by mail and are held over just a couple hours, not a whole day) and they are run by the parties with volunteers, so there are few controls in place and no government oversight. The votes are public, too, so people are vulnerable to threat and intimidation, like the restaurant workers in Nevada who were thereatened with being docked a full day if they voted for Clinton. They are ripe for abuse. I know - I was there. I saw what went on in Nevada. It was only their courage - pulling on Hillary shirts and walking into the casino caucuses - that saved the day for Hillary in that caucus state in defiance of their union bosses.

There are no caucuses in November - how is he going to win the swing states where Hillary has been strong?

]]> By: What's Obama's Position? http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126084 What's Obama's Position? Thu, 22 May 2008 18:33:57 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126084 It's a bit of a cliche to suggest that Obama supporters don't even know his positions of the issues, but the "Hillary voters shouldn't vote for McCain because he opposes gay marriage" posts are hillarious. Do you guys even realize that McCain, Obama, and Hillary pretty much all have the same position on gay marriage? It's a bit of a cliche to suggest that Obama supporters don't even know his positions of the issues, but the "Hillary voters shouldn't vote for McCain because he opposes gay marriage" posts are hillarious. Do you guys even realize that McCain, Obama, and Hillary pretty much all have the same position on gay marriage?

]]> By: H-ROD http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126080 H-ROD Thu, 22 May 2008 18:33:26 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126080 Mccain could have been playing flippy-floppy with his cellmates,one thing is for sure, he is a flip-floper I just wonder where he learn it Hmm .! not to close (Yes Obama can)!!!!!! Mccain could have been playing flippy-floppy with his cellmates,one thing is for sure, he is a flip-floper I just wonder where he learn it Hmm .! not to close (Yes Obama can)!!!!!!

]]> By: Matt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126079 Matt Thu, 22 May 2008 18:32:43 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126079 Black people are given everything? Do you know how rediculous you sound? And Clinton says racism did not play a roll in this Black people are given everything? Do you know how rediculous you sound? And Clinton says racism did not play a roll in this

]]> By: Greg Pottstown, Pa. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126075 Greg Pottstown, Pa. Thu, 22 May 2008 18:32:15 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126075 I find it disturbing how easy it is for some people to make generalizations about a group of people. EXAMPLE : Soma people from WV are racist so the hole state is racist. It is all over the place , and not just on one side of the fence. I find it disturbing how easy it is for some people to make generalizations about a group of people.

EXAMPLE :
Soma people from WV are racist so the hole state is racist. It is all over the place , and not just on one side of the fence.

]]> By: Ed Foy http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1126043 Ed Foy Thu, 22 May 2008 18:29:22 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1126043 I will give john McCain credit for sitting down with Ellen. I dont think Curious George or the V.P. ( Ventriliquist President ) would have the guts or the ability to handle the issue so diplomatically. I disaree with John McCain completely and believe he is wrong. ALL men (and women) are created equal. We ALL deserve the same rights and benefits he has. But at least he is willing to talk in a reasonable and courteous manner. I will give john McCain credit for sitting down with Ellen. I dont think Curious George or the V.P. ( Ventriliquist President ) would have the guts or the ability to handle the issue so diplomatically. I disaree with John McCain completely and believe he is wrong. ALL men (and women) are created equal. We ALL deserve the same rights and benefits he has. But at least he is willing to talk in a reasonable and courteous manner.

]]> By: Tyrone Brown, Seattle, WA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125979 Tyrone Brown, Seattle, WA Thu, 22 May 2008 18:25:10 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125979 Sometimes I think the issue of gay marriage comes down to semantics. Maybe we need to stop fighting over the word "marriage." In other words let straight couples have the word "marriage" and let us focus our arguments, energy and efforts on the underlining issues of equal protection of our rights and privileges under the law. Sometimes I think the issue of gay marriage comes down to semantics. Maybe we need to stop fighting over the word "marriage." In other words let straight couples have the word "marriage" and let us focus our arguments, energy and efforts on the underlining issues of equal protection of our rights and privileges under the law.

]]> By: Les-Wa http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125973 Les-Wa Thu, 22 May 2008 18:24:18 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125973 Terrific answer Senator McCain <b>"touche'"</b>. I would have voted for you in 2004 if you were the nominee instead of Bush. I'm a <b>Clinton Democrat</b>, I'm very grateful for your service to our country from Vietnam all the way to the senate. Hillary will be the nominee for my party, my apologize Senator I can't give you my vote this November. Terrific answer Senator McCain "touche'". I would have voted for you in 2004 if you were the nominee instead of Bush. I'm a Clinton Democrat, I'm very grateful for your service to our country from Vietnam all the way to the senate. Hillary will be the nominee for my party, my apologize Senator I can't give you my vote this November.

]]> By: Adam, Los Angeles http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125971 Adam, Los Angeles Thu, 22 May 2008 18:24:16 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125971 One more note, Throughout history and still in present day, gay people have been burned alive, staked, crucified, hung upside, tortured, castrated, raped, beaten to death, deleted from history, endured electroshock "therapy", exiled, denied the right to inherit property, serve their country, or wed their loved ones. i can go on and on -- so don't tell me that Gays and Blacks are nothing alike. One more note,

Throughout history and still in present day, gay people have been burned alive, staked, crucified, hung upside, tortured, castrated, raped, beaten to death, deleted from history, endured electroshock "therapy", exiled, denied the right to inherit property, serve their country, or wed their loved ones. i can go on and on - so don't tell me that Gays and Blacks are nothing alike.

]]> By: john williams san diego, ca. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125946 john williams san diego, ca. Thu, 22 May 2008 18:21:53 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125946 gays have the right to marry, but they don't have the right to marry the same sex that is not marriage, that is perversion. the poor 8 year old kid that is a product of a gay marriage that ends in divorce who later remarry and that child has to say 'i have 4 mommies or 4 daddys..indoctrination starts by activist judges and then nurtured by liberal school teachers. gays have the right to marry, but they don't have the right to marry the same sex that is not marriage, that is perversion. the poor 8 year old kid that is a product of a gay marriage that ends in divorce who later remarry and that child has to say 'i have 4 mommies or 4 daddys..indoctrination starts by activist judges and then nurtured by liberal school teachers.

]]> By: CW in DC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125939 CW in DC Thu, 22 May 2008 18:21:34 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125939 I cannot believe I'm not sitting here reading people trying to compare the African American struggle of the 60s to the gay struggle of today. Have you all lost your minds?!?! -Show me a restaurant WITH A SIGN that says we don't serve gays. -Show me public areas with signs depicting "White Only" and "Colored Only" -Show me the last time a gay person was hanged -Show me gays being denied the right to vote -Show me gays being told that they only count as 1/3 of a human being.... -Show me gays that have had dogs attacking them -Show me gays that have been hosed by fire hoses I could go on all day! Yes, I am an educated black man and I do not live in the past. I respect every person regardless of their race and I harbor no ill will toward any person because I know people of today had nothing to do with what happened then, but I refuse to sit here and read this garbage and watch these idiotic comparisons take place. I cannot believe I'm not sitting here reading people trying to compare the African American struggle of the 60s to the gay struggle of today. Have you all lost your minds?!?!

-Show me a restaurant WITH A SIGN that says we don't serve gays.
-Show me public areas with signs depicting "White Only" and "Colored Only"
-Show me the last time a gay person was hanged
-Show me gays being denied the right to vote
-Show me gays being told that they only count as 1/3 of a human being....
-Show me gays that have had dogs attacking them
-Show me gays that have been hosed by fire hoses

I could go on all day!

Yes, I am an educated black man and I do not live in the past. I respect every person regardless of their race and I harbor no ill will toward any person because I know people of today had nothing to do with what happened then, but I refuse to sit here and read this garbage and watch these idiotic comparisons take place.

]]> By: Praetorian, Fort Myers http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125921 Praetorian, Fort Myers Thu, 22 May 2008 18:20:01 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125921 Ellen says: we're the same. I have to disagree...marriage is a sacrement of religious faith. Partnerships, Gay Unions...etc....are terms effectively used by the states/governements if defining the legal relationships, etc.... This is really sick...I applaud him for having the coconuts to go on there knowing she was going after him with both liberal barrels. Next liberal special interest group--please stand up. Ellen says: we're the same.
I have to disagree...marriage is a sacrement of religious faith. Partnerships, Gay Unions...etc....are terms effectively used by the states/governements if defining the legal relationships, etc....

This is really sick...I applaud him for having the coconuts to go on there knowing she was going after him with both liberal barrels.
Next liberal special interest group–please stand up.

]]> By: kristianjl http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125896 kristianjl Thu, 22 May 2008 18:18:03 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125896 Well now, you CAN compare the experience of gays to African Americans... Matthew Shepherd anyone? Gays have been beaten to death and discriminated against because of their sexual orientation the world over (and they hang them in Iran). Its easier to hide your sexuality than your skin color, I'll grant you that. Anyways, I have African Americans, gays and women in my family so I firmly support equal rights and a level playing field for all. -A white married middle-aged male hunter / fisherman from Minnesota for Obama Well now, you CAN compare the experience of gays to African Americans... Matthew Shepherd anyone? Gays have been beaten to death and discriminated against because of their sexual orientation the world over (and they hang them in Iran). Its easier to hide your sexuality than your skin color, I'll grant you that. Anyways, I have African Americans, gays and women in my family so I firmly support equal rights and a level playing field for all.

-A white married middle-aged male hunter / fisherman from Minnesota for Obama

]]> By: martin http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125892 martin Thu, 22 May 2008 18:17:52 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125892 ellen would probably have to walk him down the aisle.he could use a walker,i guess. ellen would probably have to walk him down the aisle.he could use a walker,i guess.

]]> By: Brian http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125877 Brian Thu, 22 May 2008 18:16:59 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125877 Gays should be allowed to marry people, come on. Call it whatever you want, they should have the same rights if they want to, how can we not allow them to it seems so wrong to do so. Regardless of a persons belief systems we should not go around telling those who wish to be together that they can not marry. As for Mccain, if he wins, I'm moving to Holland. I can't take another 2000 election Republican evil slick deal again. If Hillary win the Nomination by some back room deal I will no longer vote again. Obama 08 Gays should be allowed to marry people, come on. Call it whatever you want, they should have the same rights if they want to, how can we not allow them to it seems so wrong to do so. Regardless of a persons belief systems we should not go around telling those who wish to be together that they can not marry.

As for Mccain, if he wins, I'm moving to Holland. I can't take another 2000 election Republican evil slick deal again.
If Hillary win the Nomination by some back room deal I will no longer vote again.

Obama 08

]]> By: raf http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125870 raf Thu, 22 May 2008 18:16:37 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125870 Michael A: As a gay guy, I hate it when people dismiss the right to marry as something insignificant. African-Americans weren't denied that right, were they? Or the right to foster children and raise a family? Or, until FIVE YEARS ago, the right to even have sex? And let's also not forget that there's no federal protection against hiring/firing discrimination against gays, nor anything guaranteeing inheritance or hospital rights. Until you personally are okay not having any of those rights, please don't pretend they're insignificant. But to more directly respond to your post: Read more closely. No one is saying gays have it harder now than blacks did in the 60s. That's not the comparison being made. The analogy is the simple fact that one minority is being denied equal protection by the majority -- period. The comparison is that after we learned those lessons with blacks, and then with women, and then with blacks again, this nation is still doing it. I have a hard time understanding how any minority, having lived through it, is okay with it being done to another minority -- even if it's on a smaller scale. Michael A:

As a gay guy, I hate it when people dismiss the right to marry as something insignificant.

African-Americans weren't denied that right, were they? Or the right to foster children and raise a family? Or, until FIVE YEARS ago, the right to even have sex?

And let's also not forget that there's no federal protection against hiring/firing discrimination against gays, nor anything guaranteeing inheritance or hospital rights.

Until you personally are okay not having any of those rights, please don't pretend they're insignificant.

But to more directly respond to your post: Read more closely. No one is saying gays have it harder now than blacks did in the 60s. That's not the comparison being made. The analogy is the simple fact that one minority is being denied equal protection by the majority - period. The comparison is that after we learned those lessons with blacks, and then with women, and then with blacks again, this nation is still doing it.

I have a hard time understanding how any minority, having lived through it, is okay with it being done to another minority - even if it's on a smaller scale.

]]> By: Adam, Los Angeles http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125842 Adam, Los Angeles Thu, 22 May 2008 18:14:48 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125842 yardstylze May 22nd, 2008 1:56 pm ET Gays are not in the same situation on Black…they were not lynched, rape, enslaved, treated as less than human, could not be with a white man or woman that they loved…had churches burned to the ground, had dogs set on them…got bomb threats….I could go on and on. You cannot compare Gays to Blacks….at least you can hid being Gay..you cannot hide the fact that you are black As both a gay and black man, i find stuff like this particularly offensive and extremely ignorant and naive. Gay people are still being treating that way all across the world including here in the US. The plight of the black community is no more noble, honorable, or noteworthy than the plight of gays. And as far as the comment, "you can hide the fact that you're gay"...try hiding the fact that your heterosexual for 80 years of your life and let me know you feel about that then. All we're asking for is equal rights and protection under the law, the same as the black community. WAKE UP AMERICA! yardstylze May 22nd, 2008 1:56 pm ET

Gays are not in the same situation on Black…they were not lynched, rape, enslaved, treated as less than human, could not be with a white man or woman that they loved…had churches burned to the ground, had dogs set on them…got bomb threats….I could go on and on. You cannot compare Gays to Blacks….at least you can hid being Gay..you cannot hide the fact that you are black

As both a gay and black man, i find stuff like this particularly offensive and extremely ignorant and naive. Gay people are still being treating that way all across the world including here in the US. The plight of the black community is no more noble, honorable, or noteworthy than the plight of gays.

And as far as the comment, "you can hide the fact that you're gay"...try hiding the fact that your heterosexual for 80 years of your life and let me know you feel about that then.

All we're asking for is equal rights and protection under the law, the same as the black community.

WAKE UP AMERICA!

]]> By: trellskig http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125821 trellskig Thu, 22 May 2008 18:13:27 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125821 The Obama Republicans are speaking up! The Obama Republicans are speaking up!

]]> By: Chris, Middletown, CT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125780 Chris, Middletown, CT Thu, 22 May 2008 18:10:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125780 I think CNN needs to turn on the dope filter - and all the "if not Hillary then McCain" blogs....hey dopes...they don't even have similar positions...(not that any of you seemed to care...as Hillarys "positions" changed state to state...in between sniper fire) ANYONE who says this ....complete moron....no excuses...Hillary has lost this....thats it....stop it...vote on positions...not hurt feelings... I think CNN needs to turn on the dope filter – and all the "if not Hillary then McCain" blogs....hey dopes...they don't even have similar positions...(not that any of you seemed to care...as Hillarys "positions" changed state to state...in between sniper fire)

ANYONE who says this ....complete moron....no excuses...Hillary has lost this....thats it....stop it...vote on positions...not hurt feelings...

]]> By: ALL THE WAY TO DENVER http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125776 ALL THE WAY TO DENVER Thu, 22 May 2008 18:09:42 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125776 Hey, I'm gay and will vote McCain. For all of us Democrats that have voted before and follow politics, we have a lot of respect for John McCain. He has gone against the Bush machine and we can all respect that. Anyway, John McCain is a moderate Republican and he believes that gays should have rights and opposes a constitutional amendment against gay marriage. Good Enough. Pretty much sounds like John will leave gay marriage as a "states rights" decision. That is cool with me. I am from AR, and they have already banned gay marriage, and I respect that. However, California is more liberal and they have made it legal. The older I get, it seems the more tolerant people are becoming. I'll break my thoughts down for you. Obama has no experience. If I volunteer for Habit for Humanity, would that make me qualified for President? I think not. Obama is a former "Community Organizer" in Chicago, and the last I heard is that school kids can't even ride the school bus or walk to school without being shot. If Obama is the great uniter, he should unite inner city Chicago first. Hillary 08 or McCain if necessary (no more on the job training for President) Hey, I'm gay and will vote McCain.

For all of us Democrats that have voted before and follow politics, we have a lot of respect for John McCain. He has gone against the Bush machine and we can all respect that. Anyway, John McCain is a moderate Republican and he believes that gays should have rights and opposes a constitutional amendment against gay marriage. Good Enough.

Pretty much sounds like John will leave gay marriage as a "states rights" decision. That is cool with me. I am from AR, and they have already banned gay marriage, and I respect that. However, California is more liberal and they have made it legal. The older I get, it seems the more tolerant people are becoming.

I'll break my thoughts down for you. Obama has no experience. If I volunteer for Habit for Humanity, would that make me qualified for President? I think not.

Obama is a former "Community Organizer" in Chicago, and the last I heard is that school kids can't even ride the school bus or walk to school without being shot. If Obama is the great uniter, he should unite inner city Chicago first.

Hillary 08 or McCain if necessary (no more on the job training for President)

]]> By: gay and black =Different ! http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125774 gay and black =Different ! Thu, 22 May 2008 18:09:38 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125774 The battle of gay people and the black people is FONDAMENTALY DIFFERENT. based on one single thing: Gay people have the oportunity to hide and live a "normal" life Black people cant hide their color, they dont even have that choice ! Now i know that this is not suposed to be an option. Nobody should have to hide what they are in order to have the right to have a normal life ! BUT EVEN THAT black people dont have. all you have is a world, were at best, you have to consider yourself satisfied to be given the chance to attend college, even if you must give twice the efforts of a white person to get there ! that is why most people are trippin about Michelle OBama's comments. At if she should consider herself happy to go to college and have a profession when " she belongs to a cotton plantation " God help america ! The battle of gay people and the black people is FONDAMENTALY DIFFERENT.

based on one single thing:

Gay people have the oportunity to hide and live a "normal" life

Black people cant hide their color, they dont even have that choice !

Now i know that this is not suposed to be an option. Nobody should have to hide what they are in order to have the right to have a normal life !

BUT EVEN THAT black people dont have.

all you have is a world, were at best, you have to consider yourself satisfied to be given the chance to attend college, even if you must give twice the efforts of a white person to get there !

that is why most people are trippin about Michelle OBama's comments. At if she should consider herself happy to go to college and have a profession when " she belongs to a cotton plantation "

God help america !

]]> By: Proud Woman/Nothing like the HRC Whiners! http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125773 Proud Woman/Nothing like the HRC Whiners! Thu, 22 May 2008 18:09:34 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125773 NO OBAMA,NEVER May 22nd, 2008 1:50 pm ET WRONG…..black people ARE GIVEN EVERYTHING ! *********************************************************** ROFLMAO!! You are clearly in a rural area with no access to books, newspapers or reality checks. I'm sure you are voting for Hillary - can't have an uppity one in the White House, huh? Obama O-8!! Deal with Baby!!! NO OBAMA,NEVER May 22nd, 2008 1:50 pm ET

WRONG…..black people ARE GIVEN EVERYTHING !
***********************************************************

ROFLMAO!! You are clearly in a rural area with no access to books, newspapers or reality checks. I'm sure you are voting for Hillary – can't have an uppity one in the White House, huh?

Obama O-8!! Deal with Baby!!!

]]> By: Joe http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125765 Joe Thu, 22 May 2008 18:08:18 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125765 Jeanne in San Diego, where do you see an "equal protection" argument? Applying that 14th Amendment principal, gay people have just as much right as non-gay people to marry a person of the opposite sex. Gays may not wish to do so, and that's their choice. "Marrying" a person of the same sex in not a right currently enjoyed by non-gays, so there's no merit to any equal protection argument. What gays want is more than the law allows anyone ! Jeanne in San Diego, where do you see an "equal protection" argument? Applying that 14th Amendment principal, gay people have just as much right as non-gay people to marry a person of the opposite sex. Gays may not wish to do so, and that's their choice. "Marrying" a person of the same sex in not a right currently enjoyed by non-gays, so there's no merit to any equal protection argument. What gays want is more than the law allows anyone !

]]> By: Gay Struggle not a Black Issue http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125762 Gay Struggle not a Black Issue Thu, 22 May 2008 18:08:04 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125762 Everytime a gay person says that their struggle is the same as the black person is funny. A black person didn' have to be asked if they were black or not to be discriminitated against. A gay person was never a slave. A gay person never was paid a lower wage or had to sit in the back of the bus cause they were gay. A gay person never had beg to vote cause they were gay. A gay person didn't have to make a choice over what bathroom to use ( if they were white). A gay person never was denied food at a restaurant if they were gay. A gay person never had to boycott the education system to get an education. SO please stop comparing it to the black experience. I hate that comparison...but I love the fact that I am gay!!!!!! Everytime a gay person says that their struggle is the same as the black person is funny. A black person didn' have to be asked if they were black or not to be discriminitated against. A gay person was never a slave. A gay person never was paid a lower wage or had to sit in the back of the bus cause they were gay. A gay person never had beg to vote cause they were gay. A gay person didn't have to make a choice over what bathroom to use ( if they were white). A gay person never was denied food at a restaurant if they were gay. A gay person never had to boycott the education system to get an education.

SO please stop comparing it to the black experience. I hate that comparison...but I love the fact that I am gay!!!!!!

]]> By: Jeanne, San Diego http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125743 Jeanne, San Diego Thu, 22 May 2008 18:06:38 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125743 Actually there are a couple of points on which McCain and I agree. There should not be a constitutional amendment and states should be allowed to decide on their own. However, I do hope that eventually all 50 states will recognize gay marriages, civil unions, or something to that affect, eventually. Actually there are a couple of points on which McCain and I agree. There should not be a constitutional amendment and states should be allowed to decide on their own. However, I do hope that eventually all 50 states will recognize gay marriages, civil unions, or something to that affect, eventually.

]]> By: Peter http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/22/ellen-asks-mccain-to-walk-her-down-the-aisle/#comment-1125740 Peter Thu, 22 May 2008 18:05:52 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7290#comment-1125740 McCain is right on this one 100%. Ellen makes some fundamentally flawed arguments about "all the same" and "same love" that are basically not true in a pluralistic society. Religious folks are called to love God 1st, before their neighbor and therefore their views in this regard may differ substantially from hers in this regard. Civil unions are fine and are indeed a right, but for those like myself, marriage is a purely religious institution involving a unique perception of God in that process. McCain is right on this one 100%. Ellen makes some fundamentally flawed arguments about "all the same" and "same love" that are basically not true in a pluralistic society. Religious folks are called to love God 1st, before their neighbor and therefore their views in this regard may differ substantially from hers in this regard. Civil unions are fine and are indeed a right, but for those like myself, marriage is a purely religious institution involving a unique perception of God in that process.

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