May 22nd, 2008
03:00 PM ET
7 years ago

Florida delegates file lawsuit to get delegation seated

A DNC official addressed a crowd gathered at DNC headquarters in later April protesting Florida's situation.
A DNC official addressed a crowd gathered at DNC headquarters in later April protesting Florida's situation.

(CNN) – Three of Florida’s Democratic delegates filed a federal lawsuit Thursday in an attempt to force the Democratic National Committee to seat Florida’s delegation at the convention.

Steven Geller, an uncommitted Florida superdelegate and a Florida state senator; Barbara Effman, a pledged delegate for Sen. Hillary Clinton; and Percy Johnson, a pledged delegate for Sen. Barack Obama, have alleged that the DNC violated their constitutional rights to equal treatment and a fair process by stripping Florida of all of its delegates to the nominating convention because the state held its presidential primary prior to a date specified by the national party.

“This litigation addresses the view of Howard Dean and the Democratic National Committee that 1.75 million Democrats can be ignored at will,” Geller said in a statement released Thursday.

The DNC said the lawsuit had little chance of success. "In two other cases so far, the courts have upheld the Democratic National Committee's right to establish and enforce its own rules regarding the selection of delegates to the Democratic Convention,” said DNC spokesman Dag Vega.

In late March, the federal appeals court in Florida upheld the dismissal of another lawsuit filed in an attempt to force the DNC to seat the Florida delegation.

The Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC is set to meet May 31 to hear appeals from Florida and Michigan Democrats to allow the seating of both states’ delegations at the summer convention in Denver.

soundoff (225 Responses)
  1. Richard T. Brady

    That's what we get for thinking that a frustrated cookie baker can do any thing in a civil manner without making an extreme mess of any thing she touches.

    May 22, 2008 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  2. jake

    I just did a little math. I took the difference of each state primary AND Caucus and this is the totals I got from this tally. Obama had a difference over Clinton of 2,755,439 and Clinton had a divfference over Obama of 2,755,448, come on now, have you ever seen a primary or for that matter a general election with the difference being only 9 – did anyone know that these totals were this close????? Figure it yourself, for each state I took the winner & deducted the loser (for want of a better word) and wrote it down under the winners name. In TX it was really weird, it says Obama won the state and more delegates BUT he was 5298 higher in the Caucus BUT Clinton was 101,029 higher in the primary. I had no idea the popular vote was this close and we've still got a few states to go. Delegates don't mean all, if you really want what the PEOPLE who voted want, then add them up. OH YEA, I counted MI & FL. I gave all of the OTHER in MI to Obama and he had a total in FL>

    May 22, 2008 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  3. John San Francisco

    I said this along time ago. The Clintons were up to something. it is not just the Clintons. It is also the Undecided Delegates who have allowed Hillary to act like a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum in the middle of a super market.

    Everyone is going out thier way to please her, and now she is manipulating the whole process.

    Well guess what? There will be no Democrat to take the White House for the next 8 years. This Schandal is anothe one of the Clintons cooked up schemes to get what they want. It does not matter if its furniture, realestate, women, or a Powerful position as President.

    The Clinton supporters are so blind to how deep the Clintons are tied to Special Interest Groups around the world. They have fooled millions of Americans to believe they are standing up for them.

    Like Sheep headed to the Slaughter

    May 22, 2008 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  4. ???

    The Dems need to change their rules, that's true, but they've already decided on them (BOTH candidates that is) and now they have to deal with the consequences. What kind of example is Hillary setting? "Let's be good on our word unless I can benefit from betraying my opponent?". She reminds me of the kid everyone knew in their childhood that would play tag and suddenly declare new safety zones when they were almost caught.

    May 22, 2008 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  5. rumpusgoopus

    This is sickening.

    May 22, 2008 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  6. lol

    count the votes hillary doesn't have the number of delegates, and neither does obama. it doesn't go by who has more delegates, obama and clinton both will not have enough. then let's evaluate electability, which hillary will have the majority of the popular vote, and is ahead of mccain on the electoral map, obama is behind mccain. superdelegates if you want to win go with hillary, if you vote obama, you can add him to the loser list of mondale, dukakis,gore, kerry, than obama!

    May 22, 2008 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  7. Count Votes

    I am Hillary supporter and I realize Obama has more delegates and will therefore get the nomination. If you exclude Forida now then the Democratic party should not be surprised if they lose this state in November. You Obama supporters should really try hard to tone it down and be more respectful. Most of you probably do not even know why you hate Hillary. Is it because she is a smart, intelligent, confident, and ambitious female. I respect any person that is able to achieve the things she and Obama have done. As an African-American who will not be voting for Obama, I do respect him.

    May 22, 2008 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  8. Chicago's Own

    Hillary had no problem with FL and MI not being counted when she thought she would win. Funny thing is shes so concerned about every vote being counted....oops except the caucus states! HA HA! Then she wants the superdelegates to overturn all the votes for Obama and select her as the nomonee. Wow...Democracy at its finest!

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  9. Cindi South Carolina

    I think is unfair that the Clinton's is starting a war against the American People. What if Hillary was the front runner and Obama was so pushy about seating the delegates? Now, how does this set with the rest of the American People in other states that voted not for Clinton but Obama. What we fail to realize is that Hillary Clinton in not the one to call the shots. If this is the case then this country is better off with McCain for President. Clinton will only hurt the democratic party and this is evidents that she is and succeeding. This is why we as American People don't have a voice in our government because people like the Clinton's. Wake up people.

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  10. Dina Phila., Pa

    Keep on filing FL. Your leadership broke the rules and they will not be seated the way Hillary Clinton wants it to. The rules are in place for a reason, just like any other rules, they must be followed. You cannot turn around when things are not going your way trying to demand that the rules change to accommodate you. That Crazy!!! This new it before they moved the dates, they were warned and told what actions would be taken!! They accepted this and told the people in FL and MI that their votes would not count. These people knew it, that's why everyone did not go out to vote!

    WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS!

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  11. Proud1of 26% in WV

    What message does this send?It's ok not to follow any rules.I think that WV should go ahead and have and have their 2012 primaries now ,that would be another big win for Hillary.The DNC is supposed to wait til may 31 to have the meeting.This smells like another Clinton extortion act.

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  12. DB

    The delegates need to be seated. DNC are idiotics not to seat it. if not it will be like the 2000 election. They are afraid of Obama campaign. Everyone is afraid that Obama calls foul. He is such a fraud. His lawyer block the redo election and now he want to act like he wants to resolve it. This guy is a joke. His support are all dumb college students that don't know who or what they voting for. Just want to jump on the band wagon because a few cele brities endorsed him. If you endorse someone read on the policy and credentials and over a good speech that his speech writer writes. For heaven sake. Bunch Obama supporters are losers!!!!

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  13. Les-Wa

    What 50-50? This country do NOT reward MALFEASANCE which Obama have been practicing from Chicago all the way to primary. Obama withdrew his name from Michigan ballot due to the fact he was told by democrats in Iowa if he leave his name in the ballot he'd lose Iowa; Edwards have done the same thing. Only Hillary was gutsy to leave her name in the ballot in Michigan(she lost in Iowa), also Kucinich and others left their name in the ballot. In Florida, Obama BROKE the rule of NO CAMPAIGN and that includes ELECTRONIC CAMPAIGN ADS, he was running campaign ads in Florida.

    There you have it as none of you Obama followers and MSM will talk about it.

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  14. No Hillary

    Here you are.... Hillary combines her efforts with Republicans to even destroy the democratic party even further..... REAL FACE OF HILLARY!!!

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  15. And this is news???

    The entire process was un-democratic to begin with. Camp Obama has been against this from the beginning and so now a lawsuit – of course – but it is Obama who did not want their votes to count and still doesn't......only reason he says so now is for your money!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It was illegal from the onset and the DNC and Obama knew it – it was the only way to keep Clinton from getting the nomination. Other states that moved their primaries up were not stripped of voters or delegates...those were Obama favored states. No coincidence for sure!!!

    May 22, 2008 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  16. Mar

    ALL YOU NASTY PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE COMMENTS HERE, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR VOTE???

    May 22, 2008 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  17. Shane

    EVERYONE CHILL. WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE HAVE 50 STATES IN OUR NATION, NOT 48. THEY HAVE TO BE COUNTED AND SEATED, IF NOT YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY WILL VOTE FOR MC CAIN. LET THE PROCESS
    RUN THRU

    May 22, 2008 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  18. Festus, Montana

    Florida already screwed up Two elections. (hanging chads lol). They have had eight George Bush years to get their act together. It may be best to just let this state sit out of the election until they gain a little more education on how the electorial process works before we can trust them to make any decisions regarding the country. Let's hope that a good education is a staple in this state.

    Yes We Can.

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  19. rumpusgoopus

    I will now be happy to vote against Hillary Clinton every chance I get. 2012? No way. 2018? Absolutely not. When someone like this tears apart the Democratic Party solely for their own benefit, they are not worthy to hold office.

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  20. USAF Sr. Airman

    Florida decided to move up their primary even though they were told their votes wouldn't count. Case closed.

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  21. T-rel

    It's time to become an Independent . The DNC powers to be have no control over this? Dean and EVERY other uncommitted Super should be ashamed of thEmselves for allowing the Clintons to run the party. I'm seriously considering changing parties.................neva a Repub though!

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  22. Daavon in NC

    Florida and Michigan broke the RULES... they were told ahead of time not to... they voted anyway... so now deal with the consiquences

    its not the DNC's fault.... its your state officials fault... where is your outcry against them???? where are your signs againts your state leaders who decided they were above the law??? where is the accountability for the people in YOUR states who put YOU in this delimma

    news flash to the idiots in Florida who are up in arms... you're up in arms against the wrong people.... get a clue

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  23. auntie k this is for you from qui

    THIS IS THE FUNNY PART THE DELEGATES DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT RULES WERE VIOLATED AND NOW THEY MUST DO DAMAGE CONTROL. THEY SHOULD JUST SPLIT THE DELEGATES AND BE HAPPY WITH THAT. A LAWSUIT ISN'T GOING TO HELP OUT NOW. THEY HOLD A MEETING ON THE 30TH JUST WAIT IT OUT AND GET THIS THING OVER WITH.

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  24. Not McBush

    I live in Michigan and I want to be able to vote. Michigan did not have campaigning nor did it have all the candidates on the ballot. I am sure that Michigan results are not valid.

    As far as Florida goes, they should also be allowed to vote but nobody in their right mind can view the election that was done as valid. People didn't vote because they were told their votes wouldn't count. Candidates were not allowed to campaign.

    I realize that this is a great mess and both states are being punished for violating the rules but there does not seem to be a fair resolution.

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  25. Anyone but H

    This is like moving the goalpost during a football game in the last quarter.

    May 22, 2008 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
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