(CNN) - Hours after his rejection of Pastor John Hagee’s endorsement, John McCain rejected the backing of Pastor Rod Parsley, who said that Islam was a “conspiracy of spiritual evil.”
"I believe there is no place for that kind of dialogue in America,” he told the Associated Press. “And I believe that even though he endorsed me, and I didn't endorse him, the fact is that I repudiate such talk, and I reject his endorsement."
The decision to cut off Parsley could have the bigger impact on the presidential race: in 2004, the Ohio pastor was a major figure in an unprecedented evangelical turnout operation that helped an anti-gay marriage ballot initiative pass overwhelmingly, and which was widely believed to have helped President Bush carry the critical swing state state – and the presidency - by a slimmer one.
The leader of the World Harvest Church in Columbus also founded the Center for Moral Clarity - an organization which has held that adultery should be treated as a crime – during the last presidential cycle.
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I wonder if Obummer is going to ever get around to rejecting all those Hamas ties and his terrorist friends like Bill Ayres.
Barely a mention.
Hillary Supporters:
Let's get out and support MI and FL on May 31st. If you can't make it to DC, then get out in your own towns and pickett.
I'm going down to the busiest intersection in town and will protest for either a revote or to count the delegates as is.
Everyone should get out and support Hillary on this day! I'm taking all four of my nieces, who are so cute and so excited to see the first woman as President of the United States.
Get out and show Hillary and the rest of the country that we, as Americans, will not stand for rigged elections.
Hillary 08 or McCain if necessary!
Interestingly enough, the Obummer supporters showed uss all that they put Candidate above Party. And we (the Clinton and/or McCain supporters can show them that we put Country above Party or Candidate.
Wow he is really taking a risk as most of the radical right in this country supportr these two pastors. Maybe he does have a set.. small though they have grown!
As much as I love Obama, and as much as I detest the Bush administration... it's moments like these when I can't help but sincerely thank and respect Senator McCain.
Thank you for doing the right thing!
This is interesting......Why are these Pastors preaching hate messages? There are so many issues they can address that are more in line with God's message of love and care. It will be interesting to see if in the interest of being fair and balanced– CNN plays Pastor Hagee's sermon ad nauseum as they did Pastor Wright's sermon.
I think this will show us something. Pastor Hagee is a man that McCain said was an amazing human being and that he actively seeked the endorsement of. This was after Hagee said terrible things about Catholics and Jews. If people brush this off as no big deal after the Wright issue with Obama, it will show that they were looking for an excuse not to vote for Obama because of a reason I don't think I need to mention. This is not much different and should be treated like the Wright issue was for Obama.
Hey, I like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. If McCain has rejected their endorsement, I guess he doesn't want mine either, huh? I guess I will have to vote for a Democrat in November.
Adultry as a crime, no wonder McCain rejected his endorsement.
Considering McCain left his disabled wife (she had a car accident while he was a prisoner of war) and had many affairs while still married to her, including one that lead to his current wife, Cindy.
You are being smart. RUn a clean campaign this fall.
The difference is Hagee was not McCain's personal pastor of 20 YEARS!!!! He did not sit down and listen to the extreme rhetoric for years and then choose him to be his spiritual advisor during his campaign. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!
This speaks to Johnny come lately reckless and poor judgement that he often accused Obama of. I suppose Johnny Mac Flop will not be able to use this issue in the General Election debate because Obama has something equally of the same nature to hit MacBush with.
This of course will get no air time on Fox News, however they will continue to bring up Rev. Wright whom Obama has repudiated. The fact is McCain actually courted these endorsements and said he was proud of them – only now he rejects them. That is worse than Obama who was never endorsed by, nor did he seek, Rev. Wright's endorsement.
Not to mention that this is just another McCain "flip-flop"!!!
Now all he has to do is reject and denounce George W. Bush . . .
I don't think america, should sink this low. We can't reject the amn who has helpped millions of people all over the world because of one sentence.
Pause and think.
i like ROD... PARSLEY
John Mccain is a scum.....thats why they wanted seperation of church and state.... for that reason Obama and everyone has to denounce any precher that has endorced them....
Democrates for 08
Dont be a fool and vote Republican just because your candidate didnt make it. We all lose if that happens.
Democrates for 08
Either Obama or Hillery
NO MCBUSH
For a guy who claims to be a reformer and an independent maverick, McSame employs too much of the same type of doublespeak Bush has used for the past 8 years, and he spends an awfully large amount of time courting the same far-right wacko extremists. I'm glad to hear that McSame is cancer-free, but face it, America: Electing this old man will amount to a third Bush term, and that would be a cancer our country couldn't possibly survive!
OBAMA '08!
Not even close to Obama and Wright... not even close.
I say that because i know you liberal nut-bags are going to go off and cry racism. Open your eyes, and maybe use your brains and some reasoning skills.
NOT EVEN CLOSE to the Obama and Rev. Wright situation.
Actually Islam is not a conspiracy of evil, it's imply a false religion that rejects the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The history of Islam and the present conflicts in the world can be tied directly to this satanic heresy. ItMhammed advocated and promulgated violence acquiesence to it doctrines. Worship like we do, or we will not hesitate to rape, killtorture you. Now not all leaders or adherents follow that edict, but it's viloent adherents are icreasing, not because of the Bush Administrations policies, but because the most vocal of it's leadership beleives falsely that they are doing Allah's will by doing so.
btw – McCain's medical records EXPLICITLY STATE that he IS NOT CURED FROM HIS INVASIVE MELANOMA!!! Why did his campaign refuse to let independent physicians read the records? – cause they would have clearly pointed that out!!!
wow
McCain did the right thing, although late, after rigorously seeking both these pastors' endorsements. With McCain's rejection of the evangelical community, he has lost the presidency by a bigger margin. Either the evangelical community will sit at home on Nov. 4th or vote for Bob Barr!
Either way, advantage Obama!
Not quite the same thing as sitting in a pew for 20 years as a member of the church. Even CNN should be able to figure out the difference between this and Wright issue. Obama is not electable. Sounds like the democrats are going to steel defeat from the jaws of victory with an Obama led ticket.
How convenient: they endorsed him; he didn't endorse them. McCain specifically went out to seek Pastor Hagee's endorsement! Is this the straight talk we are expected to believe? Go figure.
McCain sought out these peoples endorsement. Now McCain is saying “He endorsed me and I didn't endorse his views". He's making it seem like he didn't ask for his endorsement. The news should call him on this more. This is not like what happen to Obama with Hamas or Farrakhan. This people endorsed him without his knowledge. McCain’s words are trying to blur reality.
I am sure these two controversial pastors will not receive as much airtime as pastor Wright.
If Mccain denounces this pastor, there is no difference between Obama and Mccain. I will vote for Obama. I believe that Mccain respects his voters' sentiment.
He says his situation is better than Obama's.
CANADIANS FOR OBAMA
CANADIANS FOR OBAMA
CANADIANS FOR OBAMA
CANADIANS FOR OBAMA
CANADIANS FOR OBAMA
CANADIANS FOR OBAMA
You gotta love him! He is so sincere WOW!!!!
TO ALL FIRST TIME VOTERS (OBAMA SUPPORTERS):
You are so naive not to look at History (obviously not a college major these days). Obama's arguments for winning in Nov are weak.
Facts:
1. Extreme liberals have a history of losing the general election
2. Some states always vote Republican
3. Moderate Democrats (swing voters) are voting for Hillary. These are the voters that have a history of voting for a moderate Republican over a Liberal Democrat. These are the so called Reagan/Democrats.
Don't be naive to the facts. Obama will not re-write the electoral map. Most educated people learn from history.
I guess if the DNC forces Obama on us, they will learn that history repeats itself.
Good Luck Dems....
McCain did not sit in church and listen to these crazy rantings and subject his children to them like Obama did.
These pastors only endorsed McCain – they did not marry him and baptize his children, and they were not his "spiritual advisors" like Wright was to Obama or inspire McCain to write a book like Wright did for Obama. Also, McCain did not make excuses for them like Obama did in the beginning for Wright.
I think Obama should not want to make an issue of this, since all it does is invite comparisons against his long relationship with his formerly beloved uncle Reverend Wright.
Oh boy.......2 pastors....where in the heck is THAT coverage CNN??
Now I am also hearing that here are INFORMAL talks for HRC to exit the race....As an Obama supporter, this is a good day!!!
Mummmmmm...
Got a little pastor problem huh?
This is the leveage cards Obama needs against Mc Sane!
I guess Mc Sane and the Repubs thought they have an easy win to the white house...
McCain should have no problem rejecting the votes of the 12 million americans that will actually vote for him then, cause they are all close followers of these types of "pastors" He's playing with a double edged sword and doesn't know what to do with it. He jsut doesn't realize that he is going to be hurt either ways by these loons coming forward for him. Besides, you'd have to be dumb to think he doesn't secretly support these ideas behind closed doors.
These pastors have been saying these thing for years, McCain took his endorsement anyway so he must share his views as well, how could McCain not have rejected him for the past 20 years.
Sound Familiar?
I don't see how this is any trouble for McCain's campaign. It only helps him with independents. Regardless of what anyone feels about Islam, they would agree with McCain to not talk like that.
What is most troubling to me is, how few pastors who have been studying the Bible for decades know the heart of God or understand the Love, Grace and Mercy that came through Jesus Christ.
Dont be a fool and vote Republican just because your candidate didnt make it. We all lose if that happens.
Democrates for 08
Democrates for 08
Either Obama or Hillery
NO MCBUSH
Isn't McCain coming a little late to the denouncment party? Didn't we tell him a couple months ago he should distance himself from this pastor, after the Katrina comments?
Political expediency doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
This will never spin the way Rev. Wright did, it's not that PROVOCATIVE when caucasions speak ill of America and others.
OBAMA 08
This is odd when you consider that McBush actually sought and coveted these two endorsements to get himself in with the religious right. It's been several months since he had these endorsements and people both within his campaign and outside have been telling McBush about the radical views of these two pastors. Why did he wait so long? I think politics was one factor: to get the votes of the Republican religious right. The second reason is the problem of age, senility and health of McBush. He is only presenting part of his health records. He is still hiding the damaging information. His greatest problem along with his flip flopping is the past personal problems of Cindy.
I don't hold you (McCain) responsible for these two Reverends words, just as I don't hold Senator Obama responsible for Rev. Wright's words. But, to say "Hitler was sent to exterminate the Jews"! Is this guy MAD? No person on this earth deserves the treatment these and other people (in these kinds of situations) have endured.
I wonder sometimes why certain people think the way they do and what kind of person you are to spew this kind of nonsense and hate!
And they call themselves Pasters, Reverends, etc...
U know what I don't like about this whole mess, is that when Obama had the Pastor problem there was so much light shed on him and his pastor. Now McShame can repudiate and denounce this endorsement enough said. But what really is unkind McShame only repudiated and denounced these pastors when the said negative comments about the Jewish religion. What this says to me, is that McShame is not really religious. He is trying to win Florida, which has a large Jewish community, and he is trying to save face. This candidate is fraud. He and Hillary are both cut from the same cloth.
Who Cares? McCain is not going to win anyway!
Too late McCain, what happened to the pot will happen to the kettle.... check on someone's record before seeking his endorsement!
let the people have their say on this issue.
We need changes, n real changes!!
Please, you guiys want to be foxnews you are trying to stirr controversy on something that the public doen't care.
Obama pastor now thast controversy.
Bias!!
Do you really think this minister is anything close to Rev. Wright, Obama's noted pastor that married and guided the future President. This is the lowest from of tit-for-tat that I have seen in the media and it is disgraceful.
i just heard that charles manson just endorsed barak obama for president. hmmm i wonder what this means.
The age of rejecting Pastors.....
I hope this campaign does not focus on why, whom and when to reject pastors, instead focus on the real issues for the American people: Economy, Energy crisis and War.
Barack Obama's support for Rev. Wright was an example of a long time friendship that was becoming increasingly strained by Wright's belligerence. McCain's decision to seek out the endorsements of Hagee and Parsley were merely political. An ability to make wise political decisions is what determines a president's worth. It is disconcerting that McCain did so little research before courting bigots.
But the comment Pastor Rod made about Islam is true and an overwhelming majority of Americans, Europeans, Canadians and Austrailians agree.
Thank you, McCain, for rejecting the former used car salesman's endorsement.
It's a little too late, you have shown that Republicans truly do not care about religious values, unless they can take advantage of it to get elected.
I for one think that church leaders ought not endorse and candidate, else they be stripped of their tax exempt status.
This is a good thing that McCain has done, it separates him from Bush a little bit. It's also plainly obvious theater. I have little doubt that McCain shares the views of these idiots and would gladly say so if he thought it would help him get votes. Rational voters need to ask themselves why these backward thinking types of people endorse McCain. It's because they know he will be their man, regardless of what he says about them now.
McSame sought the endorsement of these religous figures thinking it would not come back and bite. Just like he sought the funding from people whom sponsored terror aroung the world. MCCAIN JUST WANTS TO PUT LIMITS ON CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS (FREEDOM OF SPEECH, Religion, PRESS ECT). NO MORE BUSH POLITICS.....
OBAMA 08.....
But, didn't he check these men out BEFORE SEEKING out their endorsement? And at least the stuff Rev. Wright said is historically true. We did bomb Hiroshima, the Tuskegee experiment did happen and West Virginia and Kentucky have shown that Blacks still have to overcome simply being born Black in this country to many whites who are as stuck in the past as Rev. Wright is. But the stuff Pastor Hagee said about Catholics was just nasty and untrue and Rev. Parsley's comments about Islam are untrue and vile. They really are teaching hate. And he was so anxious to get endorsements from Evangelists that he didn't even bother to research these men and their teachings. Or did he??
Conservaties started this line of attacks, and now they have to deal with the consequences. Going into people personal lives interjecting their pastors and spiritual advisors was wrong. Typically republicans win using religous speech...NOW it is going to bury them.
while most of the channels did talk abt this issue, I could not see any discussion abt this on Fox News.
Media is afraid of GOP.
even cnn.com put it on a ticker, not main news. What a shame!!
I don't see the connection to a "pastor problem" for McCain like Obama. Obama has openly credited and indded exhaulted Wright as "his pastor". He married Obama and his wife and Obama has been a MEMBER of his chruch for something like 20 years. Obama didn't disagree or decry any of Wright's sermons until it became politically neccessary for him to do so, leading many of us to believe that he really believes and thinks like HIS pastor, the "reverend" Wright. McCain, on the other hand is NOT a member of either one of these chruches, and has not lauded either one of these pastors as his mentor or as is "guide" in spiritual thinking. So, to say he has a "pastor problem" like Obama is really stupid. You simply cannot compare the two situations.
Figures Bombs and Bible Neo-Conservitives pretending to be chrisitian.
Not quite the same thing as sitting in a pew for 20 years as a member of the church. Even CNN should be able to figure out the difference between this and Wright issue. Obama is not electable. Sounds like the democrats are going to steal defeat from the jaws of victory with an Obama led ticket.
OK, now let's have Obama medical records, form past 10 years. Also his current physical and pee test and hair frolical test to screen for controlled substance. Also first and foremost we want his FULL LIFE'S FBI FILE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC, NOW !!! Oh yes, and don't forget Michelle's file too.
How about spending 24/7 for the next 8 weeks endlessly discussing McCain's problem with seeking out and actively courting endorsements from religious radicals? What draws him to these wackos? Is he a closet fundamentalist? Does he share their bizarre and divisive viewpoints? If not, why does he try so hard to win them over? Does he not do any research into their backgrounds and positions? Is he careless in that regard or just stupid? Why did it take him so long to repudiate these nut jobs?
I mean, if it's good for Obama– and you knuckleheads debated THAT whole ridiculous Rev. Wright "issue" for weeks (and Obama neither sought nor obtained his endorsement)– then it's only fair to ask these questions of McCain.
C'mon, mainstream media! Show us you're not the shameless rightwing shills and dupes that we think you are!
Wonder if they will go after McCain like they did Obama
How come the rest of American knew about this "reverend" but McCain and his elate staff of adisors didn't have a clue. Or, maybe they didn't want to admit it.
What goes around comes around.
I do not know how the American public, media and most ashamedly Christians buying into this crap by McCain. You crucify for going to church in search for Christ and glorify the other who seeks to use Christianity for political gain. I was up watching CNN last night and some of those who demonized Rev. Wright were the same people making excuses for Pastor Hagee.
While Rev. Wright preached social justices, Pastors Hagee $ Presley preached about the religion of Catholics, Jews and Muslims and even the misfortune of fellow American but the public and media where quick to demonize Wright and give McCain & co as easy ride.
My advice to McCain, Hagee & Co is that Jesus Christ is not up for sale and Jesus is not choosing your side because claim to be right, Jesus is looking for those to tell the truth.
My advice to Christians is that they should look at what transpired so far with regards to character and behavior of all who are involved in the political process and decide for themselves who is behaving like a Christian.
MR MCCAIN, TRULY IS A MAN TRULY IS A MAN WITH A GOOD HEART
HE SHOWED THIS BY GOING BACK TO VIETNAM WHEREHE WAS A PRISONER AT OF WAR TO SHOW THAT HE HAS PUT THE PAST BEHIND HIM, AND FOR GAVE THOSE THAT TREATED HIM SOO BADLY WHILE HE WAS A PRISONER, I AM NOT A MCCAIN SUPPORTER BECAUSE OF HIS STAND ON CONTINUING THE WAR
BUT I HAVE ALL WAS LOVED HIM AND SEEN HIM AS TRULY A GREAT LEADER, AND ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WOULD MAKE A WONDERFUL PRESIDENT! UNTIL HIS RECENT CHANGE!
Biased Fox News has nothing about McCain's "pastor problems" but when Obama had it, they were all over it. Talk about hypocritical. Let's see how long the media will talk about this charade.
It is amazing how the far left radical fools state that this is McCains' pastor,WHEN HE IS NOT!! Liars on the looney left lie so blasted easy ,it is incedible.McCain lives in Arizona.The'pastor' in question resides in Columbus,Ohio.Apparently,a 1700 mile commute to church every Sunday is not something the lying leftists took into consideration when they dreamed up this blatant fib! But,when you consider the average IQ of your typical American hating socialist,it is not all that incredible.Nice try to compare McCains so called 'pastor' withB.O. Husseins, Rev Wright,a real ,American hating,racist,buffoon he has seen for 20 years!!
I could understand the rejection of Hagee for his Hitler comments, but now Parsley for stating something that polls show a majority of American's agree with; and a vast majority of Republican agree with. That settles it, I won't be voting at all this November.
Pastor Rudy Garza
Since McCain thinks that just because a person from Hamas thinks Obama would be a good President, that Obama should be branded with that as though he sought it, then McCain in turn needs to be branded with these endorsements that he actually sought.
I urge anyone who wants to know the truth about this "war hero" to google the phrase "songbird McCain" to see what his fellow POW's have to say about McCains time in captivity.
Look who got caught trying to play the pastor-card.
Aside from his insane temper, frightening old age, questionable health, lack of economic or domestic policy understanding, now there's this too.
No McBush in '08
Use them....then lose them....typical McCain M.O.
McCain needs to be careful. Many endorsers are going to have some extreme positions that he (McCain) doesn't need to agree with. He needs to be careful and not alienate himself from his base.
Unlike Obama who gave money to, and attended Wright's church for some 20 years is one thing. But McCain does not nor has he gave money to those pastors with extreme views.
Hey,
Not the same. Wright- an Uncle of Obama, 20 years in church, Married him, childrens baptism , close family relationship.
Obama campaign should not use the comparison. It only keeps the issue around that will hurt in the general election.
No matter. Evangelicals will not support Obama so they will come around to McCain at the voting booth. In this year's election, we have to select from the lesser of evils, we all know that the worse of the evils is Obama.
Wait a minute, I thought McCain claimed both were great men of God. Now it seems that all of these men of God–Hagee, Wright, Parsley–all have some types of hatred for one groud or another. I am a follower of Christ, and I am ashamed to have any of these of these talk on his behalf.
They are no different than a blind a man claiming to have seen another man steal a purse.
It is amazing how the far left radical fools state that this is McCains' pastor,WHEN HE IS NOT!! Liars on the looney left lie so blasted easy ,it is incredible.McCain lives in Arizona.The'pastor' in question resides in Columbus,Ohio.Apparently,a 1700 mile commute to church every Sunday is not something the lying leftists took into consideration when they dreamed up this blatant fib! But,when you consider the average IQ of your typical American hating socialist,it is not all that incredible.Nice try to compare McCains so called 'pastor' withB.O. Husseins, Rev Wright,a real ,American hating,racist,buffoon he has seen for 20 years!!
Good for McCain. Good for Obama. What is scary though is that Hagee, Wright, and Parsley have a following at all.
You can't compared the pastor issue of MCCain with obama, is a huge and I mean huge difference!!! McCain didn't attend for 20 years to either of this pastors churches..........Stop being so unfair with the other candidates ...mr obama is not God...........
You go John. McCain/Lieberman/Keating 08!
at least mccain is rejecting these endorsements..now if obama would start rejecting endorsements from race baiters(sharpton, jackson, martin,his wife) we would be ok
the double talk out of the obama camp is so blatant – "the country is so racist for refusing to vote for a man just because he is black"
yet they refuse to touch the fact that obama is getting 90% of the black vote! why is this, because the media is scared of being called racist...
until obama starts sounding like the "change" candidate instead of the "divide" candidate...i will not vote for him(coming from a die hard dem)
Well its nice to see that he nipped that one in the bud real quick! Too bad Obama took FOREVER to denounce his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Looks like overall, McCain is more intelligent than Obama, so I will be voting for him if Hillary does not get the Democratic nomination! Even though I'm a strong liberal, I do not think this country can afford to go downhill any longer with an unexperienced, empty suit, all talk and no game candidate.
And the nerve of this guy to jump all over Obama about Rev. Wright.....the old saying for the OLD man "What goes around comes around"
When did it become necessary that candidates had to accept responsibility for every word/thought of supporters?
At this rate...by November, he will be both cancer-free and pastor-free.
Who's gonna drive Tales from the McCrip's so called straight talk express now that the lobbyist running his campaign are being forced or thrown off the bus at a steady pace?
Obama 08
It really makes you wonder what kind of candidate this man is, that he's getting endorsements from these racist hate-mongers. There is a difference between speaking about the plight of your own people and just slamming anyone who's different from you – supporting the policies of Hitler, for example!
A year or so ago McCain had my vote locked up, but his run to the far, far right has just disgusted me completely. This country can't handle another four years of cowboy "diplomacy" and rights suppression.
OBAMA '08
~A converted Republican single woman
I do not know how the American public, media and most ashamedly Christians buying into this crap by McCain. You crucified for going to church in search for Christ and maybe as usual hearing things you do not agree with but we glorify the other who seeks to use Christianity for political gains. I was up watching CNN last night and some of those who demonized Rev. Wright are the same people making excuses for Pastor Hagee. A man, deciding for God what is the truth? They can try.
While Rev. Wright preached social justices, Pastors Hagee $ Presley preached about the religion of Catholics, Jews and Muslims and even the misfortune of fellow American but the public and media where quick to demonize Wright and give McCain & co as easy ride.
My advice to McCain, Hagee & Co is that Jesus Christ is not up for sale and Jesus is not choosing your side because claim to be right, Jesus is looking for those to tell the truth.
My advice to Christians is that they should look at what transpired so far with regards to character and behavior of all who are involved in the political process and decide for themselves who is behaving like a Christian.
this is INSANE!!! this shouldnt even be an issue! im not even a religious person nor im a big fan of either party! Im just P***ED off when i read some people's comments. Mccain does not attend this man' services, the man is NOT someone that Mccain seeks spiritual advice from...the man was preaching to his followers about how he interprets something in the religious document they study. i grew up in a strict Christain home where John Hagee was on television frequently..his sermons were NEVER anything like ive heard from Wright..NEVER NEVER NEVER..he may be wrong but it in no way comes close to the Obama/Wright issue...ive watched extended versions of Wright's so-called sermons. he goes on and on about how bad america is, how racist america is, and how we should all be ashamed. he never once mentioned the god he was supposed to be spreading the "gospel" for, oh excuse me, he did say GOD D**N america..no way, should any man who sat throught 20 years of a church promoting this ideas, be president of the united states!
It's a good thing he's distancing himself from kooks who want to criminalize activities of those who do not agree with their own moral code.
We need a new party....I'm sick of all the entire leadership in the DEM and REP parties–including their crappy candidates for President.
Is this really the best America has to offer?
If McSame wants to say that Obama is soft of terrorism because Hamas endorsed him, then I think it's fair to say that McSame is a biggoted, out-of-touch, far-right extremist because of Hagee's and Parsley's endorsements!
Check out John McCain's new book "How to go from straight-talk to double talk when you are running for President". It should hit bookstands soon.
McCain, Obama or Clinton... US has lost its influence in the world. How exactly do all these candidates plan to bring the jobs back to US of A. Times have changed and so has the economic and military might that US once possessed. US could not win a war in a country which had nominal military presence (Iraq and Afghanistan). Yeah..OK .. Saddam Husein was brought down.. but so what... Obama said world wants to see US lead.. guess what world wants any one but US to lead.... so my dear Americans... move aside and be happy amongst your own political race..because US wont ever be what it was no matter who is elected president.
Obama should take notes!
McCain dose not belong to that church. He did not lie about what the pastors said.So why should this affect him.
I bet you liberals are willing to claim political expediency in this situation, but it couldn't be possible that your beloved Obama was doing the same thing when he "rejected" Rev. Wright... gosh, it only took Obama 20 years to realize Wright was a lunatic.
We don't have 20 years to waste while you, Obama, figure out that people like Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are bad people who want to see the American way of life destroyed.
i told you all he is senile. mccain seeked the preacher's endorsement and now says he doesn't endorsement. flip-flop
What an honorable man. He didn't try to lie to the people and brush it aside like Obama.
What is sad is how CNN continuously makes excuses for Obama/ Wright, but watch them hammer McCain over this non-issue.
What a deceiving headline. To have an unknown pastor pledge support to you, is far different from willingly choosing to seek a pastor out for 20 years that espouses bigotry, and anti american rants. Boy CNN, you show are showing your lack of ability in being nuetral in presenting the news. Your slants against Hillary, and now McCain show how far you will go to not present balanced news to get Obama elected. If Hillary had been attending such a racist church she would have been gone long ago. The fact that Obama can dance around this shows how biased the media is.
Why did McCain ask Hagee for his endorsement in the first place?
It was McCain's judgment (or lack thereof) that brought Hagee to the podium to endorse McCain in order for McCain to reach out to Hagee's followers.
This is a clear case of "Gee, I really goofed. I should never have asked this radical to endorse me."
In trying to flip-flop on Hagee's endorsement, McCain is hoping that he can use Rev. Wright against Obama without backlash of a Hagee endorsement.
Summary: McCain is flip-flopping on an endorsement that he asked for in order for the Republicans to effectively attack Obama using the race card via Rev Wright. Or, in other words, a hypocrit proving that race is still an issue.
Religion and politics don't mix..
McCain did not attend the church of Hagee for 20 years like Obama did with WRIGHT. Hagee was/is not a spiritual advisor or mentor of McCain like Obama did with Wright. Hagee did not work for McCain campaign like Obama did with Wright. McCain did not seek endorsement of Hagee, in fact he rejected such endorsement from him. Obama continue to stick with Wright, as he said Wright is like a family to him and cannot disown him.
Hillary will be the nominee for the Democratic Party, Obama cannot be trusted for our national security; he's also a flipflopper. He tell different things depending what audience he is pandering. The American people are not easily swayed by words, they want substance. Up to now Obama cannot articulate the change he keep on talking about like a rosary. He also COPY any plan of Hillary and make it his own. Why would people vote for a COPYCAT when they know its a FAKE.
I won't hold John McCain responsible for what comes out of another person's mouth, just as I didn't hold Barack Obama responsible for what came out of another person's mouth. What I am curious to see is if McCain is going to catch the same level of hatred that Obama caught behind his relationship with certain preachers. My feeling is that he won't, for obvious & various reasons. The establishment isn't looking for something to knock McCain down but they're looking to knock Obama down. Let's see, there's been Rev. Wright, using the term "bitter", his middle name being Hussein, not wearing a U.S. flag on his suit lapel, & oh yeah, SIMPLY BEING BLACK! Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't McCain the ring leader in the fight against Martin Luther King's birthday becoming a national holiday? Amazing how no one has mentioned that. Never got an explanation on why he was against it. Why would anyone be against a day off of work? I guess for the same reason people will vote for McCain knowing full & well he's going to continue down the same path this country's on now, a bad path. Because some people will never vote for a black person under any circumstances, that's why.. McCain has already committed us to 5 more years of war if he's elected president, but people still want him in the White House. And you Hillary backers that say you won't vote, don't complain when you're paying $6 at the pump in a few months. Don't complain when you can't send your children to college because of rising tuition. Don't complain when McCain reinstitutes the military draft. Remember, your racist tendencies could possibly allow all of this to take place. DON'T COMPLAIN!!
So CNN is trying to deflect the Obama pastor conflict........nothing new.
How does it feel McCain??? Finally the Republicans are having to deal with what Obama has had unfairly thrown at him in the past. Shouldn't this be about the candidate and not every person they have ever known. CNN, just keep playing those sound bites like you did with Rev. Wright. I hope John McCain's heart is strong enough to handle it. We know now that Obama can pretty much handle anything thrown at him. Unfortunately, he still has to unneccesariy contend with the lady in the pant suit.
Go Obama
McCain obviously thinks that rejecting all these people would puch OBAMA to reject rev. wright, hoping he would lose the Black support. I got something for you McCain. Even if OBAMA rejects Dr. MLK, black people are still going to overwhelmingly vote for him. You just dont have a clue about African Americans, Do You?
It's too little, too late McCain...as a Muslim American, I cannot see myself voting for someone who would not promote world peace and harmony, someone whose goal is "Bomb bomb bomb Iran", someone who said there is progress in Iraq when thousands of people are going to their graves as a result of an Oil-Thirsty war.
Nice try McCain, but your real intent is clear and your last trip to the ME as shown this....
The World needs peace and McCain cannot deliver it.
Mcwise, you may have made the right decision to be unequally yoked with your pastor. But doesn't it seem political? considering that you wouldn't want to become a subject of ridicule like Obama's past pastoral experience. I bet you will need him again by your side (someday)... perhaps when the chips are down.
I would like to personally thank Rep. Ellyn Bogdanoff (R) and Rep. David Rivera (R) of Florida for moving the Repulbican and Democratic Florida primary date up! Thanks to the Republicans and Hillary Clinton for turning this around and BLAMING OBAMA for the cause in this mess. Don't believe me....................
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/FileStores/Adhoc/MajorityWhipOffice/PolicyBriefDocuments/Archive/March%2013,%202007%20-%20HB%20537.pdf
Parsley comment on islam in which it's radical followers have commited to kill us all is correct. If Mc Cain doesn't want to hurt someones feelings he is running on the wrong ticket. In the world we live in with threats to our nation everyday be it the economy ,gas , terror from outside our borders and within illegal alliens we must stand up for our rights and fight to survive
Though McCain did not spend 20 years in Pastor Hagee's church, he sought out Hagee's endorsement for 365 days! And while I agree that he should not get the same amount of attention and the Rev. Wright issue, this story should get it's far share of attention and probing.
CNN, quit trying to fabricate a story. These Pastor's have no connection to McCain except that they have endorsed him. This is no Jeremiah Wright, pastor for 20 years story. These are independent pastors who love to get their name in print by making controversial statements but are not officially or personally connected to McCain. Quit trying to make it appear that McCain has the same pastor issues as Obama. There is nothing here so leave it alone.
Will CNN and other major news networks harp on these pastor issues as they did with Rev. Wright?? I doubt it!! This will die down in a day or two and show how bias the media really is.
With McCain's rejection of Hagee and Parsley, and Obama's of Wright, I think the day of an atheist being able to compete for the presidency may be getting closer. Not because of any rejection of religion, but because an atheist would be free from having to align him- or herself with any of the lunatic clergy that seem to attract large followings.
Except for Joel Osteen, it seems that the clergy has to be shocking and controversial to fill the pews and the coffers.
How does this equate to a minister who's church you attend and who you give money to? Is the media's view that all people who are not journalist will be too dumb to understand this difference?
I would have considered this irrelevent had McCain not made his dig at Obama. If he wants to play that way, then it's open season.
McCain YOU sought out Hagee's endorsement to pander to the Christain Right. You were so busy tripping over yourself to get his blessing that you did not vet him.
If we're going to talk about Obama's judgement and character because he was a member of Rev Wright's church, then it is just as valid to question McCain's character and judgement for seeking out the endorsement of known hate mongers.
Come on, how can anybody even begin to compare Pastor's Hagee endorsing MacCain to Obama's affiliation to his racist pastor?
MacCain NEVER attended pastor Hagee's church, much less listened to any of his sermons. On the other hand, Obama DID ATTEND Pastor Wright's church for TWENTY YEARS, he DID LISTENED to his sermons and would have continued to be affiliated to him where it not for Pastor Wright's controversial comments being made public. Obama is a hypocrite and a traitor. Even though I do not agree with Pastor Wright's views, I felt sorry for him when Obama ditched him just to get more votes. Obama betrayed the man he counted on for spiritual advise, the man that married him and his wife, the man that baptized his daughters, the man that was a close friend and almost like family. How can anybody trust him? I, along with MILLIONS of people, don't trust Obama.
NO OBAMA NO WAY NO OBAMA NEVER OBAMA
A persons preacher, priest, or rabbi and what they say should have no bearing on the candidate. How many Americans are willing to take responsability for the things that come out of their own mouth let alone someone elses? Not very many.
There has been enough said aboiut Hagge, Wright and Bill Clinton this campaign. The ones who open their mouth and spout out crap are just seeking attention. Ingore them and hopefully they will go away.
Fixing America is what everyone should be talking about, not about some old fools that can't keep their mouths shut.
The endoresement by these pastors and their relationship to McCain is no way the same as the reliationship between Obama's buddy, Rev. Wright. McCain didn't go to their churches, he didn't have his children baptized by them, he wasn't married by them, he didn't sit in their church listening and enjoying the hate for 20 years. Obama did all of these and indicates that he likely shares the view of Wright.
I'm a Democrat and was going to vote for McCain, but I've decided, after voting every presidential election, not to vote at all if Obama wins the Democratic nomination. AND, I WILL NOT vote for Obama even if Clinton would be considered as VP. I still want Clinton to get the "nod", but it looks like all the superdelegates are jumping on the political wagon of opportunity.
I will be voting for Obama now. McCain you disgust me.
After watching Mr. McCain's acceptance of the Ohio pastor's endorsement, it seems the senator from Arizona has learned all of the Bush tactics on how to get elected, i.e. Love the endorser to get campaign money, dump them when the real person is revealed. He's a Bush insider, true and true. It's high time the American public see's McCain for who and what he is ... he will do anything and say everything to get elected, After all, he's a pro who has been getting away with it for more than 30-years.
There is a huge difference between receiving the endorsement of a pastor, and going to their church for 20 years.
If we're going to play this game, don't forget to mention that Farrakhan has endorsed Obama, and so have the new black panthers and Hamas.
The difference between all of htese endorsements, and the situation with Jeremiah Wright is that Obama sat in his church every week, got mairried by the man, had his kids baptized by the man, got spiritual advice from him, and named his book after one of his sermons.
We're not talking about a casual endorsement here. We're talking about an entire adult lifetime of spiritual mentoring.
Again, as much as I hate McBush, ... er, McCain, I have to say this is in no way comparable to the Jeremiah Wrong,.... er, Jeremiah Wright controversy. McCain did not sit in Hagee's or Parsley's church for 20 years and listen to his insanity just to get credibility with their community. He did not title his book after a phrase they uttered. To make this look like a similar situation is dishonest and borders on libel.
There are plenty of real reasons to not vote for McCain – don't waste time on this one.
I'm an Obama supporter, and will be voting for him in November, but I will give credit to McCain for his rejection of these endorsements.
My question is this: What took him so long? And why did he go after Hagee's endorsement in the first place if "there is no place for that kind of dialogue in America?"
Man Hagee has been a hate monger for sometime now. I used to watch his church program daily a few years ago, but I stopped once I heard him ranting about how 'evil' Islam is. Anyone who is supposed to be a Christian should know that they are not called to bash other peoples religion. If people like Hagee back McBush, then I definitely won't vote for him.
No Repubs in '08.
lol this is a pretty stupid article just as pastor wright, get to the real issues!
Why are americans despised almost world wide?
Why is our economy falling faster then a falling star?
We have to transcend this in the box thinking, if we are to survive as a world power.
Obama will win in 08, mark my words.
"Now all he has to do is reject and denounce George W. Bush . . ."
Brilliant, Alice.
oh goodie!!!!! So, ummmmm does anyone really care, anymore? I think that both candidates know wack-job pastors. Let's move on to see if they both know any unicycle-riding, juggling malaysian sculptors, who are anti-gay marriage but, pro stem-cell research.
Moral Clarity? I don't know if he has moral clarity. How can someone be focused on gay marriage and not universal healthcare and claim moral clarity? In the NT, adultery is a heart issue not just an act. How can he focus on adultery and not poverty? As a Liberal Christian, I do believe in loving God with all your heart, mind, body and soul and love your neighbor (including the gay ones) as you love yourself. I think the bigger "sins" of this country this guy needs to focus on is greed (look at all the fat people walking around not to mention the obvious greed for money), not loving our neighbors (poverty stricken neighborhoods and schools). i think that gay marriage and adultery is the least of our worries in this county.
Maybe its time for these churchs to pay taxes since they cant seem to seperate themselves from the political pulpit.
I think its crazy that our elected officials have to reject endorsements from first any AMERICAN. If this be the case....I'm quite sure that many more rejections and repudiations are due to us "average Joe's" who may make a controversial statement or two at home.
I'm an Obama supporter and this is just STUPID on both sides of the isle. Its fine to disagree...but lets not reject the one and not the other....lets reject every single voter that has an opinion that these candidates disagree with!
This is so ridiculus... I reject this endorsement. The republicans created this problem with Wright and Hamas. So now what do we have to do? Analyze everyone who endorses us and reject or accept. Next there will be a check list if you endorse someone.
Did you ever cheat?
Did you ever say a bad word?
Did you ever say anything mean about anyone else?
Noone will be able to accept any endorsement!
Maybe this kind of stuff happens every 4 years buy why does it seem so stupid this time around. To say you don't agree with what they have said or done and reject that fine. But the media pressuring candidates to reject people and their endorsements is going a little to far.
How can the American people support this kook!? John McShame is the most pathetic creature to claim American citizenship. And to think that the American people really want him to become President of the USA. This pathetic excuse of a politician has no morals, integrity, or honesty. He chased these folks for their support; and now that he has the GOP nomination – Bam! he drops them like flies on you know what. Shameful, shameful, shameful. A most lying and sick scab of society.
I hope republicans can now point their big fingers onto themselves especially Sean Hannity. How pathetic a very little man like him causes this huge problem for all pastors.
McCain isn't wearing a flag pin. He must not support our troops.
Thank you, Senator McCain.
yeah, mike e. cooney, "the looney left liars" claimed that Hagee was his "pastor".Never saw that, never heard that, but, maybe an "intelligent right" person like you had divine inspiration. All that was said was that McCain sought his endorsement, and now is refusing it. You might want to do a little research before you engage your frothing-at-the-mouth diatribes against the so-called "looney left" fools, and I, for one, am curious about your own I.Q.
The real question is – How on earth do these churches run by Wright, Hagee, or Parsley keep their tax exempt status when they blatantly endorse candidates? I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that is illegal.
After proudly appearing with both of these hate-mongering ministers and making clear he sought their backing, he "rebukes" them ONLY after clips of him with them, and their disturbing rants made the rounds on the Internet on YouTube, etc. Principles? Why is he so often looking like a little boy with his hand caught in the cookie jar, such as the clips making the rounds now of his bald-faced lies about "The Surge" working so well that he and Patraeus can stroll in Baghdad with no armor...the look on his face when confronted with the facts says it all. Bush all over again.
I actually think it's WORSE to SEEK OUT an endorsement of people like Hagee and Pasley, then it is to disavow someone you have known and loved for 20 years. Think about it. Obama cared for Rev. Wright like a father figure, and it's very hard to just abandon a family member because of a few statements that he disagreed with. How many have fathers, or uncles that have said bad things? Did you walk out on them immediately? Can't you love someone in spite of some of their views?
John McCain sought out the endorsements of these pastors to boost his popularity among evangelicals. He knew of these statements BEFORE he went after their public support. He did it all for personal and professional gain.
Obama held onto the Wright relationship as long as he could, IN SPITE of professional destruction, because he cares about the man and doesn't want to end that relationship.
Sorry, but to me McCain's situation is worse.
Les-Wa
You are a liar. McCain actively sought out Hagee's endorsment. Stop listen to Clinton spin and get real facts for once.
Between the Lobbyist, Brokers for Terrorist Regimes and Hate Mongers , McCains not gonna have anybody left working for him or endorsing him soon!
He will have to turn away every major pastor and priest who endorses him. Almost everyone of them has said something contraversial I bet. Hillary supporters...is this who you want to vote for and lose the right to choose?
Hi,
First of all they are totally different pastors and no comparison between Obama and McCane. McCane did not attend his sermon for 20years or did not call him uncle or did not have personal relations. It is very clear that Obama knew about his pastor being Anti-American and still kept on going there and even took his family there.
Bottom line is , without the help of CNN and likes, Obama would be nowhere. How can Obama even speak something about McCane when more than Obama's age, McCane is in service of this Nation. Will Obama serve the country the way McCane did? Would he even servive the torture of more than five years where he can not even bear the attack from journalists? Again and again I am saying that without the help of media he would be nowhere.
About foreign policy Obama is trying to show the world that he is trying new ways of 21st century. But it does not work that way. McCane has seen the world leaders acting and reacting in so many different ways.And there is something like your inner inteligence which draws the line between good and bad way of dealing internationaly , which is not there in Obama. He is just trying to portray himself as Masiah which he is not.
Again, a man can only be held responsible for the words that come of his mouth and the action they performs. McCain often attempted to place fear in the hearts of man when it came to Senator Obama with is pastor problems howerver Sen. Obama in front of the Jewish leaders defended Sen. McCain against allegation that he share the views of those ministers.
Wake Up!!!!!!
We must standup for what right and good in man and hope for a better tommorrow.
Another dubious hyperlink for CNN. "McCain has some pastor problems too." This isn't exactly true, is it? I mean, McCain has been REJECTING these pastor's endorsements. McCain cannot help it that some people prefer him over other candidates. McCain hasn't been pandering to the Center for Moral Clarity. He has not attended the World Harvest Church over the past decades, choosing to participate in worship services which endorse hatred towards other peoples through the preachings of his pastor. Shame on you, CNN politicalticker Editors. People of higher integrity would take your misleading hyperlink as a lie. But you probably have no qualms about it. You disgust me.
There should be a separation of church and state. The pastor stuff should have never been brought up in any candidates campaign. The people in the news media had to find something against Senator Obama and that was all that they could find. They had to report the Hagee & Parsley comment in order to appear fair.
McCain is now in damage control. 2nd rejected endorsement? He'll have more rejected endorsments than made endorsements at this rate....
Hillary Clinton fans – you need to grow up and stop acting like babies. You don't agree even half of the policies of McCain, and Clinton and Obama have 90% of the same policies....SO IF YOU VOTE FOR HIM, YOU ARE VOTING AGAINST CLINTON.
So all this talk of states that Obama can't (or wouldn't) win wouldn't happen if people started putting their COUNTRY first before their own bruised EGOS. Where's your American pride now?
John Mcain is a stinking ******.
Sorry I repudiate my last statement.
Yes that's how silly and dumb it looks, you asked for his endorsement and now you screwed yourself.
Oh ya Bush killed our economy worse president ever....
Sorry No repudiation for this one.
It's amazing how the Obama campaign is trying to stray away from it's own guilt.
1) Pastor Hagee was not McCain's Pastor of 20 years
2) Pastor Hagee was not McCain's spiritual mentor
3) McCain didn't write a book based on his pastor
4) Mccain didn't have a personal friendship with his pastor for 20 years.
On the other hand:
1) Obama had and still has a personal relationship with his pastor for the past 20 years.
2) Obama has said in the past and in his book he shares the same values as his Pastor, (This must mean he doesn't respect or like the white man)
3) Obama's embraces the black value system, hey where's the white value sytem, maybe McCain should embrace that!
4) Obama is good friend with Dorothy Tillman who wouldn't even let a couple white wiaters work a birthday party for a former mayor of Chicago.
5) Obama went to Farrakhan's million man march even though he says he didn't.
I don't understand how so many white americans are so blind and sheepish to this racist candidate!
Roland Martin warned conservatives didnt he? This is only the beginning...
"Religious" people are some of the biggest hippocrites on earth.
Especially when it comes to politics. Just read some of the hateful blogs
or some of these characters. The american flag and cross are two of
the favorite garments that bigots use to hide themselves.
Dan B
you asked a good question I can only respond by saying that he did not know about them for the same reason that those voters in FL and MI did not know their votes would not count when I did in August of last year.. it was not important enough for them to look into things
Clinton won swing states because her scandal has not been brought into the news yet. Her supporters will be gone as soon as they learned her scandal. She had said MI,FL were not important to her when she won super Tuesday, (her says has been recorded, and been aired in CNN months ago). Keep in mind, this is her 'family business', she will do everything to save it, even goes to No.2, Clinton is counting to jump from No.2 to No.1 in few months,
FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE SEN. OBAMA SAT AND HEARD ANGRY HATE SERMONS FOR 20 YEARS....PLEASE ANSWER ME A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS:
1) If Rev. Wright spoke on the racism in America regularly for 20 years, why is it that Sean Hannity's people looked through more than 6 years of DVDs that are sold in the church bookstore and ONLY FOUND 6 MINUTES of footage with those messages to loop? Why have we not seen more sermons from different days throughout the years?
2) Aside from the AIDS was created as genocide comment....what did Rev. Wright say that was untrue?
I know none of you have the guts to actually think about these questions. You think you need an excuse to not vote for Obama, because you want to conceal the truth that you can't vote for him because you ARE the Americans that Rev. Wright was speaking about.
Margaret May 23rd, 2008 10:11 am ET
The difference is Hagee was not McCain's personal pastor of 20 YEARS!!!! He did not sit down and listen to the extreme rhetoric for years and then choose him to be his spiritual advisor during his campaign. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!
My question to you Margaret is did McCain sit in any church for any period of time. Sounds like McCain is a man who trying to please the people for the moment for whatever advantage he can gain. In other words he has no morals nor any conviction from any sermon.
Hagee and his hate filled comments have beeen all over-in books articles, interviews, video tapes, and the internet.
He has blamed the jews for the holocaust, made a contiuous line of sexist remarks, blamed gays for katrina, made deplorable comments about catholics. But hey that's all okay by the media.
Hey that is all okay by mcCain.
The excuse is that mCCain wasnt fully vetted. BS! everone knew Hagees creepy world view. McCaibn knew, the media knew.
The truth is that the media didnt care ( WASP and men in that group)
Does thast mean that the media is sexist , anti semitic, anti catholic, anti gays? Sure looks like it
No they cared about an angry black man for WEEKS on end. Does that mean that they are racist ? sure looks like it.
Hagee apparently gets his TWO minutes of fame-not even worthy of fifteen minutes.
Where is mCCain in all this? He courted this creep Hagee for a YEAR! he WANTED THIS NUT AND THIS NUTS VIEWS!
gee, MCain will be a REALLY CREEPY PRESIDENT_ one who hates women catholics, jews , and gays. Looks like he will hate almost everybody to get a vote. Another hate filled white house.
McBUSHED-the third term..
How many republicans that crucified Obama for what his pastor said are now saying, "A pastor has no bearing on the candidate?"
This is why there is suppose to be a seperation between chuch and state. There are a lot of preachers that say a lot of things that are debatable or not political correct. People talk about Wright, but Hagee has a congreation of over 17,000 members. I'm sure many have attened his church for years. We shouldn't think that the 17,000 people at the church thinks these same things that Hagee says. 17,000 haven't gotten up and walked out of his church...why? We go to church to praise God, or whomever you praise, and fellowship with fellow memebers. Pastors all over the nation, black, white, jewish, latino, etc from time to time go off on tangents and start making bold statements. No one just pops up and runs out of the church. Hillary attended a church Sunday in Kentucky. When the pastor started talking about Infidelity, I;m sure she got a little unconfortable but didn't run out. I would like to see how many people go to church on a regular basis and agree with everything that the pastor says.
Bad Move! Mcain will loos the General Election.
Maragert, read Pat's posting of 10:31 EDT.
The fact that McCain went looking for this preachers endorsement tells me that he was looking for political gain, without regard to the deeper issues. So, either he didn't look hard enough, or he didn't think that what he found was a problem. That in turn, is a problem for me.
Fortunately, there was a report two weeks ago that talked about us Christians not automatically supporting the GOP because of a series of issues – environment, poverty, Sudan, etc. And it doesn't appear the GOP is taking the biblican principles to heart in responding to some of these other issues.
But, we'll see.
Look, I don't believe Obama nor McCain supports the belief of any these preacher/pastor.
I like John Hagee and Ron Parsley but I do not agree with everything they say.
Therefore stop judging people, lest ye be judge.
Obama 08
Neither McCain nor Obama can cater to the far right on religion;theirPastors.America has religious freedom;believers;non-believers which is guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.
Kuilor2k
Obama has Hamas ties? Really? Do you have a source? If this were true Fox News would be all over it,
Stop listening to Sean Hannity and quit going to Karl Rove for your talking points.
Pastor Parsley called Islam an Anti-Christ religion. Either he is a bigot or he is ignorant, or both. Islam embraces Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad as prophets, and the Quran makes it mandatory for every muslim. A whole chapter titled Mary, is in the Quran. In Islam, Jesus is called the Sinless prophet, and according to the sayings of the prophet Muhammad, 'If there is anyone who has already found a place in Paradise, it is Mary, the mother of Jesus'.
WHAT I HOPE IS ...FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAS STATED THEY REFUSES TO VOTE FOR OBAMA AND WOULD VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF CLINTON DOESN'T STEAL THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION TO SIMPLY VOTE FOR MCCAIN. MY CHOICE WOULD BE FOR WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID OR DONE NOT BASED UPON WHAT THEIR SUPPORTERS MAY HAVE SAID OR DONE. AS THIS POLITICAL PROCESS PLAYS OUT IT IS CLEAR THAT AMERICA HAS COME A LONG WAY BUT CLEARLY STILL HAS A LONG WAY TO GO. MAKE YOU CHOICE BASED UPON THE ISSUES AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS COUNTRY... NOT BASED UPON HATE, PREJUDICE OR PURE IGNORANCE!
Dave, Osteen is folksy isn't he?
First off; it's good to hear the Senator is cancer free. Back to the subject. His actively seeking endorsements from these two nut cases shows just how uninformed and ill prepared he is in his campaign. Doesn't this give us a clue as to his ability to head this country? He is an uninspiring Senator who seems to make decisions for stupid reasons. ie: Not revamping the GI bill because he's afraid what it will do to the service retention rate. Give the military men and women their due Senator. You can always bring back the draft if you get elected.
Vote Obama, President for the next eight years!
Rev Wright did NOT preach hate for 20yrs people. Barack did NOT have a personal relationship with Jesus when he joined that church but now he does so at some point Rev Wright preached the word of God as I have heard myself from him over the years. This was his Pastor NOT policy advisor. I do NOT always agree with what my Pastor says but I have been a member for 8yrs. Now people will come out and defend Hagee and Parsley just like Rev Wright supporters came out and did. You reap what you sow as the bible clearly states. Now the shoe is on the other foot and Hagee has to defend his ministry. How does it feel???
There is difference between listening to someone for 20 years plus calling them your Mentor and someone endorsing you because they are a Republican. Any Obamabots who think otherwise are racist. Period
Looking at this from a broader perspective, it means that McCain can't hit Obama over his pastor. The only problem is the rumored video. But it probably won't materialize.
Two Controversial Pastors??? And he actively sought both of their endorsements, and now 'rejects' his own decision? This is just plain ridiculous. As soon as I get home and turn on the t.v. all I will still hear about is Obama's FORMER pastor, who's political input HE NEVER SOUGHT!!!! SSOOOO UNFAIR!!
Obama, show us your medical records, NOW!!!
No Dream Ticket
There's a list of dead people who've had ties to the Clintons or crossed them ( just google friends of clintons). I'm concerned about Sen Obama's safety, I hope he is too.
These videos of Haggee and Parsley were available at the time of the Wright blow up. Did the MSM think of being honest and fair and playing them then? OH no that would be smacking too many right wingers in the gut.
By the way there is another video of Parsley raving and ranting that AMerica has committed genocide against African Americans. Where is that video CNN?
For those who think the media has been one sided against Clinton – think again. McCain SOUGHT out these pastors – don't tell me he was not aware how radical these pastors are.
ALL THE WAY TO DENVER
You must be a member of Operation Chaos. Are you part of the "Cheetos Brigade"?
i've never seen so much ignorance on one blog. I think it's insane for those of you who think obama has ties to the hamas. i think it's silly as hell for those of you who think it's ok for the dnc to change the rules for the sake of hillary and that obama is stealing the nomination from her...it's called good judgement and management. i get so tired of hearing people be so angry about the truth, hatred filled people just because. i'm not even gonna call it a race thing anymore, i just believe that some of you wake up and take a big dose of hatred ignorant drug every morning.
dumb gullible americans
Let's remember that McCain openly accepted the endorsement of this Hagee. He was honored to get his endorsement. Then McCain tells us that he was unaware of all of the nasty things Hagee spewed out about Hitler, Jews, and Catholics. I don't believe McCain...and this is another flip flop!! It is only after this has come to light that grandpa McCain rejected the endorsement. Flip Flop.
Let's also remember that McCain is constantly talking about war and bombing other people, including civilians, to death.
OK, now let's have Obama medical records, form past 10 years. Also his current physical and pee test and hair frolic test to screen for controlled substance. Also first and foremost we want his FULL LIFE'S FBI FILE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC, NOW !!! Oh yes, and don't forget Michelle's file too. I mean you very same democrats insist on steroid screens for sports, let’s see who steps up to the plate to hide their own.
Republicans are full of religious extremest that are very dangerous to America and to the world (just like other religious extremest). It is about time a republican publicly separates themselves from these extremest.
Funny, it is exactly these people that gave Bush 8 years in office. Sometimes I wonder what Bible they are reading. Certainly not the one I read.
Good for you, Sen. McCain. You are a very honorable man. And many will agree with me.
Honest questions here.
Is it true that McCain actually sought the endorsement of these guys?
Do these pastores represent a significant or insignificant of McCains's support base?
Is McCain trying to win or not? He just doesn't get it.
McCain will get a bye on his pastors comments...and we all know why! But the ridiculous statements by Hagee are as bad if not worst than Wright's. Hagee's comments are current but not new and McCain has heard this all before. It is just now that he knows he better be politically corrct, that he denounces him now. It's a bit late. Let the media harp on this!
I really dont understand these idiots who vote republican
Once again we are listening to bits and pieces of a sermon. If all of you folks would take the time and read the bible, you would know exactly where Pastor Hagee was coming from. If you're too lazy to ready the bible, then talk to someone that knows the bible, and let them explain to you what the scriptures say. You have got to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you don't, there is no need for the commentary on Pastor Hagee, because you will never understand.
Are you seriously going to try to tell me that McCain didn't know about these radical beliefs up front? Come on McCain we're a little more intelligent than that. Lets call this what it is. You NEEDED these endorsements in order to be Republican enough to win the nomination, now that you've won it you need to move more to the center, so now it's time to throw these guys under the bus. And if you truly didn't know about their beliefs before courting them for their endorsement is this the kind of vetting we want from our President as he puts guys in high ranking positions? McCain is a Hawk, this is the the quintessential politician and not the man I want serving as President.
WE SHOULD NOT CONCERN OURSELVES WITH MCCAIN ANY LONGER. WE HAVE A BETTER VOICE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND AMERICA VIA AN INDEPENDENT TICKET. VOTE INDEPENDENT HUCKABEE IN '08. NOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Now each side is debating whose preacher or reverend is more evil. The media is leading you fools around by the nose.
There are important issues that are at stake in this election. The war in Iraq, the economy, gas prices and the mortgage crisis. McCain does not want a policy change on any of these items. He is going to continue to follow Bush's position until America is bankrupt.
Obama 08
(but would vote for Clinton if she steals the nomination, definetly not McBush)
The media needs to press Senator McCain on this. Is he not the STRAIGHT -TALK EXPRESS??
He actively pursued this EXTERMIST just to get votes from the conservative part of the Republican base.
THAT IS PURE POLITICS which is in direct conflict with Straight -Talk.
MAKE HIM EXPLAIN IT!!!
See hw people justify hate when the shoe is on the other foot, you simple minded people, I knew this day would come, and the more you say it's not the same the more your hate becomes clear.. this is great!!!!
Ya'll must not go to church...
I've never been at a church that didn't say doing the wrong thing will send you to hell... I've never had a pastor that didn't eventually have some sermon that reminded us that much of the bad things we experience are due to our devices... and sometimes they like to yell.
Who cares? Do you really think any of these candidates would have gotten as far as they did if they were terrorists or bigots?... If they didn't care about people?
They may have personal leanings but to make it to the big stage, you have to be able to connect with alot of people. None of them are polarized enough to be considered "radical".
Stop worrying about the "brand" of American... Just start thinking about America! A choose your favorite out of all these GREAT AMERICANS running to be our POTUS.
OBAMA/CLARK '08
I'm so happy I'm not voting for Pastor of the United States or I might have a real tough call here.
Good luck Hillary backers its gonna be tough swallowing that bitterness all the way to Nov.
Obama 08!
CNN you're comparing apples and oranges...why can't we turn to one single news network for unbiased reporting?! McCain has no relationship with either of these men, you and your fanatic bloggers need to stop trying to smear this man!
Wake up people, he's by no means perfect, but he is the most honorable and honest candidate in the race. Why do people boo hoo about that being what they want in a candidate and when we get one, we put treat that person as though they are non-human just because they don't belong to your respective political party; wild animals behave better than most of you hiding behind your angy blogs. I have no doubt most of you are unaware what your party's platforms are anyway, you're just voting a specific way because that's how you've been told to by family, community, and liberal media.
And why do you come up with all the annoying nicknames for Sen McCain, or any candidate for that matter? Do you think it's cute and imaginative? It's grating and immature and reflective of a bigger problem...the dumbing of America...
Though I am not in agreement with everything Parsley says and I'm not fully aware of his comments but here is the issue. Christianity and Bible – which I am a beliver and fully rely on the Bible and its authenticity and authority – are going to disagree and cause conflicts with other religions and belief systems. You either believe the Bible or you don't. If you do, I would hope that you stand by it – no matter what other people say. This is what bothers me the most with McCain and many other Christians is they are not willing to stand behind what they profess. In order not to make people upset and lose a vote, a position at work, a grade on a paper – too many Christians will not take a stand and instead cower to the populus. Christianity and Islam are different, Christianity depends upon the work and witness of Christ for eternity and no other religion does.
McCain's problem is worse, he sought their endorsements. That speaks volumes. He can not walk in another man/womans shoes. He does not even support the Vets opportunity to benefit from their service, because he wants to keep soldiers fighting. As a former soldier. why did he not look into the treatment and deplorable living conditions in hospitals and barracks that many soldiers are in. Recruitment of soldiers is down in this area, because of Bush and people like McCain.
Better then the 20 years Obama took. This guys was also not in McCains life as much as Obama and Wright were together!
Well, Well ! What hypocrisy ! They crucified Sen. Obama for the statements of his pastor, now it's Sen. McCain's turn. However, I do not believe McCain will face the scrutiny that Obama faced. McCain said that he was not aware of their religious views, where has he been for the past 5 yrs. These guys gave been speaking openly like this for a very long time. I am pretty sure if the dig up some more of their TV sermons they will find more things that appear to be anti-Semitic or inappropriate. It is evident that McCain's people drop the ball when they sought their endorsements. Roland Martin warned that this would be an issue, because of the way they handled the Rev. Wright situation. However, I do not agree with what is being said about these ministers. Ministers tend to speak from a different view than those that sit in the pew. The see the world through the pages of the Bible. The sad thing is, people in most people in America would rather believe a lie than the truth, because the truth hurt. John McCain is your basic politician who is all about political deception. Be careful America not to deal inappropriately with God's anointed!
Thank God for President Obama
GenerationX,
That has been the subject of many of my posts. The real truth is not in the media, or is being ignored. There are many facts that the public is just not aware of.
Most people do not realize that both parties, GOP and DNC, agreed to and implemented similar rules.
That the GOP penalized both states by cutting their delegate counts in half.
That the DNC gave the states 30 days to correct the primary dates, or they will loose all delegates.
That their have precedents for states loosing their delegates due to rules violations. Delaware 1996.
So a man (Sen. Obama) that has a friend (Mr. Wright) that is hateful and he TRIES to stand by his side is worse than a man (Sen. McCain) that only accepts support from a hate mongering like Hagge just to get votes from radical christains???
Mr. Obama did what he did out of personal friendship and standing by his friend, (even if this friend is a crazy man) knowing he could lose everything by doing it.
Mr. McCain did it to get elected, and only pandered to the pastors people to gain power.
I really can't see how one is better than the other. They both sound pretty wrong to me.
For all of those people who say that this situation is not the same as the Reverend Wright situation live on a whole other planet caled fantasy. The REAL fact is that the situations are exactly the same. Barack was accused of knowing that his pastor spewed hateful talk and yet he did not leave. What is Mccain's excuse?!?!? He knew full well what kind of fools he was dealing with. Yet the fact is that he did not let them go....he repeatedly went after them...courting them for YEARS for their endorsement depsite knowing what kind of messages they portrayed! IT IS THE SAME THING!!!! Parsley and Hagee have been hateful windags for YEARS yet he continued to court them. It's the same thing as Barack was accused of...if not WORSE!
the lesson this canadian viewer has learned from the media this week is that if a black preacher is angry, its news, when a white preacher is angry, its to be expected? minor news? not to be replayed at nauseum. no speech on race to come from McCain i suppose, and no hand wringing from Fox News.
what a joke.
preacher's preach, that's what they are supposed to do.
sometimes we agree with them, sometimes we don't. let the pastors alone. God will deal with them if they are wrong.
OBAMA '08-12
ALL THE WAY TO DENVER May 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET
TO ALL FIRST TIME VOTERS (OBAMA SUPPORTERS):
You are so naive not to look at History (obviously not a college major these days). Obama's arguments for winning in Nov are weak
I am college educated and have voted since turning 18 some 22 years ago.
I am looking for chnage in Washington and not the status quo or repeat of current failed economic or military policy.
Where does that leave me?
Obama or an Independent who has zero shot of winning.
Again many people blindly "support" the Clinton "brand name" or "Kennedy" brand-name without looking at the individual.
I guess it is easy to foregt that no single candidate brings everything t o the table. This is importnat when selecting a running mate and cabinet members.
What irritates me about the arguments given FOR Sen. Clinton, the same arguments are used AGAINST Sen. Obama. Meaning it seems the country is willing to elect the first woman President (long overdue), but will make all sorts of excuse not to elect the first non-white male President.
Let all the so called DEMOCRATS who are so pro-Clinton and anti-Obame get what they deserve by choosing Mc Cain in November. More soldiers losts , poor world relations, and a continued weakened economy.
Vote Obama 08 for eight years.
McCain sought out people to endorse him who holds his view. This is worst than spending time in church with someone who you chose as paster long before he expressed comments you don't agree with. Now that it's politically expedient, MCFame is now throwing these endorsers under the bus. This guy is very unstable.
Obama '08/12
5-23-08 – Added Rep. Jim Costa (CA) for Obama
Switched Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA) from Clinton to Obama
Go Obama!!!!!!
08/12!
Mc Cain is better candidate than Obama
I am Hillary supporter if she not the nominee I will support Mc Cain
Mc Cain is great American
Hillary 08 or Mc Cain 08
By the way, Parsley was indeed Mccain's spiritual guide...so PLEASE get over yourselves!
There's a big difference between someone who endorses you and a preacher who you spent your life with, baptized your children, and is your campaign's spiritual advisor. CNN is desperate to try and connect McCain to anyone controversial. It's sad that you try and give an endorsement the same coverage as the Obama/Wright relationship. Shows your bias.
I think the comments of Parsley and Hagee are taken out of context. If you follow scripture, it will be offensive to all at some point. Christian conservatives tend to vote Republican - perhaps now they'll (we'll) carefully weigh all issues and realize there's time for much needed CHANGE!
Obama '08!
McCain has been getting criticized for months about Hagee and Parsley. He needed both of them so he could look more conservative during the Republican primaries. Now that he has the nomination, he dumps them both and hopes nobody notices all the praise he heaped on them. McCain is a phoney and a double-talker who tries to be conservative and liberal, depending on who is audience is.
It's about time John 100years McCain rejected the endorsements of both these controversial pastors. I have known about these comments since January, and I am sure he knew about them too. If he didn’t, what is that to say about his judgment and so called experience? Someone with so much experience should not make a rookie mistake like this one. Furthermore, McCain said that he welcomed Parsley’s endorsement and that Parsley’s is his spiritual mentor. So why did McCain wait this long to reject these endorsements?
Please stop saying "Obama spent 20 years listening to Rev. Wright". It's ignorant as well as inaccurate.
Obama was a member of the church for 20 years. He was also active in politics. Anyone who believes he was in the pews every Sunday, waiting with baited breath for Rev. Wright to speak is an idiot.
And even if he WAS, by your reasoning, all Catholics are child molestors. They sat in the churches while children were being abused. They must have known right? How could they not know?
Dont be ignorant. I know its hard but think. This p does prove however, that Preachers need to get the Hell out of politics(pun intended). There is a reason church and state are separate.
PS. All you people pretending to be Hillary supporters claiming you will vote for McCain are very sad. If these are the kinds of tactics the GOP must use to get their people elected, what does that say about their policies?
CNN – do you have a moderator who looks at all of your posts to see if you are fair and balanced in reporting the political news?
Looks to me as though you are always attacking Clinton and McCain, yet never Obama. Be careful what you wish for. If you push too hard for Obama, you may be responsible for a backlash at the polls come November.
"ALL THE WAY TO DENVER May 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET
TO ALL FIRST TIME VOTERS (OBAMA SUPPORTERS):
You are so naive not to look at History (obviously not a college major these days). Obama's arguments for winning in Nov are weak.
Facts:
1. Extreme liberals have a history of losing the general election
2. Some states always vote Republican
3. Moderate Democrats (swing voters) are voting for Hillary. These are the voters that have a history of voting for a moderate Republican over a Liberal Democrat. These are the so called Reagan/Democrats.
Don't be naive to the facts. Obama will not re-write the electoral map. Most educated people learn from history.
I guess if the DNC forces Obama on us, they will learn that history repeats itself.
Good Luck Dems…."
Hey, ALL THE WAY TO DENVER:
This is not about the repubs, this is about the good of the country.
Go use your fear on your kids and see how it beats them down and demoralizes them. Oh and watch "zeitgeist" at http://www.zeitgeist.com for a history lesson.
True, McCain didn't attend this guy's church for 20 years.
However, to me at least, saying that "God sent Hitler to help the Jews fulfill their biblical destiny" is far more offensive than anything I've heard Rev. Wright say.
When the whole Wright controversy boiled up, one of my first thoughts was that there are right-wing fundamentalists who say crazier and more ridiculous things from the pulpit on a weekly basis. This quote from Hagee proves my point.
McCain may not have been aware of this specific quote, but Hagee is a right-wing fringe nut job however you slice it, and McCain actively solicited his support. This will help Obama neutralize the Rev. Wright factor, and may be the biggest gift the Obama campaign could ask for at this point.
Unfortunately, we as Americans has basically turned its back on Jesus the only true living God and taken up with other little gods. Its amazing that when a pastor who preaches the true gospel and tell the truth, it is a hate message. The only reason you think it is a hate message is because it forces you to be accountable for your actions, when we don't want to be. The truth hurts. We don't want to be told that we are immoral even though we kill babies, homosexuality is treated like it is a birth defect, murder ing your brother is second nature and we call it freedom of expression and wonder why God withdraws himself from us. We need to stop the madness. The truth is never popular.
If the DNC forces Obama on us, Dems will lose the general election.
With Obama as candidate, Dems are throwing away the election.
Poster named "All the Way to Denver," I agree with you. And I have been a Democrat all my life.
Obama's star is fading. And his wife has never connected with the American people. Many people think she has racist views.
Obama's bid will be John Kerry all over again. A weak candidate with a wife
that many do not want to see as First Lady. (Not because she is Black, but because she has a big mouth and ignorant views.)
What a flip flopper!!!!!
California Rep. Dennis Cardoza switches from Clinton to Obama
http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/23/fridays-super-battle-2/
Today’s net gain: Obama 2, Clinton -1
OBAMA GETS:
-Cardoza and California Rep. Jim Costa.
I am registered independent in Florida. I could not vote in the primary, but I will vote for Obama in the fall. Many of my republican and independent friends also support Obama, but none of us bothered to register as a Dem to vote in the primary since we knew our votes would not count. Florida is not so pro-hillary or pro-mccain as some people claim it to be. We are waiting for the fall to vote OBAMA! It is time to turn the page on the Bush/Clinton political dynasties. Enough already.
why are people talking as if Hagee's endorsement was 'nothing' – he and the other Republicans actively sought the endorsement to try and rally christian right behind their image... and Hagee, unlike people like say, Rev Wright, have already had their political message in the ear of presidents.
CNN never post anything I have to say. I don't know why... maybe I am not edgy enough or say things that will hurt other people. but here goes nothing.
To everyone who want to jump on Juan McSame for seeking those endorsements but didn't attend their churches should also know that. Bill and Hillary never attended a black church until either one of them are running for office. Politians to that often, so it's not surprising to see how these "fish-bone" type pastors ended stuck in McSame's throat.
On the other hand, my candidate did not have to beg for any pastor's endorsement because he was a member of the church. There are things my pastor say that I can strangle him for, but I am not leaving the church because I feel that I am not there for him and there because of my love for lord and savior. So if I were to run for office and those things he had said come back to bite me.... I would make that point clear that I did not go to church for political gains like McSame and that it was for the love of God... by the way, when was the last time McSame attended a church service PERIOD.
That's the difference, my friends.
Senator McCain will not suffer the same degree of grief as Obama did with Rev. Wright, because McCain and these pastors look very white and the Clintons are now defeated flat.
You have to give McCain credit for refusing to "forcefully", in Hillary's own word, denounce Rev. Wright. She demanded both Obama and McCain to speak the same negative language of hers, but they both refused. McCain took his stand and moved on, unlike Hillary spinning on Rev. Wright for months, because she wanted to tattoo BLACK to Obama's forehead. It is indeed "revolting" in Bill's own word.
I have a question instead of a comment. Do people really follow their pastor"s every word? Have no opinions of their own? No pray to their higher power without going through their pastor, priest, rabi, etc.? Guess it's just me...
See I think that God gives us free will. So the idea that Senator Obama or anyone else would not have a mind of his own (dispite the rantings of the pastor at his church) seems kinda ridiculous to me. We aren't supposed to be following MAN. We are supposed to be following GOD. (Or whom ever your higher power is.) So to keep suggesting that Senator Obama couldn't or didn't make a decision without Rev. Wright implies that he doesn't have the same free will as the rest of us. Hmmmm...
I think the dust up with Pastors Hagee and Parsley make the Rev. Wright issues pretty much null and void. Just not a conversation I think either candidate will want to have in the fall.
There's no longer room for anti-gay initiatives, either. This is supposed to be a free country (whether you like homosexuals or not, we are supposed to be treated equally under law).
As a gay man living in Iowa, I have to say I have a greater respect for Mr. McCain for being on Ellen Thursday. That was a risky move for a conservative.
I'm a Hillary supporter but I could vote for McCain. At least I know what he stands for.
Kudos!
I am impressed. John McCain has actually taken a stand against the evangelical zealots within his party. However, I wonder if he will have the courage to take it a step further. Will he denounce and repudiate the Confederate flag because it is divisive and represents a symbol of hate?
What goes around comes around!
This man was not McCain's pastor. I doubt if McCain has ever been in this man's church. McCain wanted to get in with conservatives and knew that Hagee could help him toward this goal. In this case it was all about getting the votes.... I agree, don't waste your time on this one. It's a dud!
Why all this discussion about pastors ? According to Article VI of the Constitution of the United States "...but no religious Test ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
You know why McCain cares less about the new GI Bill? He already draws a pention check from the Navy. So why should he care about the young servicemen/wemen.
Roger,
I could not agree more, however most people are not pure realist like you and me. I wish he did not have to go the way he did. I wish he would just say he was running a campaign I didn't sit and listen to it for 20 years.
Roger if only their were more like us.
Okay John McCain, what about giving that commencement address to Liberty University when you were courting Reverend Falwell and all of his hate-filled post 9/11 speeches among other things?
McCain = Hagee, Parsley, and Fallwell
It is logical fallacy to say Mr. McCain has a "pastor problem." These men endorsed John McCain on their own free will. Furthermore, Mr. McCain did not sit in the pews of their churches for 20 years like Mr. Obama did in his situation.
The New Black Panther Party endorsed Obama. To tie Mr. Obama to that group and somehow say he supports their message because of their endorsement would be foolish. It is unfair to Mr. McCain to act like he has some kind of a "pastor problem."
This is completely ridiculous, and the big winners here are atheists. Oh, Reverend Wright is crazy, so Obama must be crazy. Hagee and Parsley are crazy, so McCain must be crazy. They're either both bad indicators of these individuals (McCain SOUGHT the endorsements) or they're not. Atheism is the big winner! Delegitimize every individual pastor out there and all of a sudden you're left with leaders stripped of connections to their spiritual leaders and soon, their spiritual convictions. Nice work America. Now every Pastor that's ever made one off-color remark gets thrown under the bus thanks to a hounding press and carnivorous public that does opposition research on anyone, no matter how loose the connection..
RayRay -
"McCain is a man who trying to please the people for the moment for whatever advantage he can gain"
So this obviously make him a better man than Obama, right?
You have no clue about the dynamics of a church. My pastor often says things I do agree with, but he has been a solid spritual advisor. I don't go to my pastor looking for policy advice. I go to my pastor on matters of religion.
I'm sorry Repubs, but Rev. Wright did not endorse Obama. Hagee endorsed McCain. The fact still remains that both candidates rejected their pastor and we need to move on.
I got two kids that I need to feed and make sure they get a good education and have a cleaner earth to live in. Its arguments like this which causes a distraction from the real issues.
It is amazing how few Hillary supporters know how to spell. If you are going to use the word LOSER not LOOSER and STEAL not STEEL.
Just the latest example of the religious right being forced out of politics! They brought us Bush the last 8 years, and we all know where that got us. To all you hate filled bible thumpers; please stay home and go to church this election. You do not belong in politics, you have proven you do not speak for this country.
McCain criticized Obama about Rev. Wright and now he has had to reject not one but 2 pastors. I suggest both sides just leave pastors out of this. If McCain was a church goer he would realize that most church goers don't remember their pastor's sermons so there is no need to harp on it.
He didn't sit at this guy's church for almost 20 years. He never called him a mentor, a father figure, a guide. He didn't write a booke titled after one of his sermons. That's all that needs to be said.
DJ,
I really dont understand these idiots who vote Democrat.
Fact is, your party is the party of slavery, and despite the civil rights act are also the party of bigotry and anti-civil rights.
As proven by JFK himself previous to being president.
1958 when he and byrd and others said that blacks should never get full civil rights.
I don't see these as messages of hate – but of messages of reality as I read my Bible. If you truly want to see messages of hate – study Islam, especially those who support jihad. You do realize the radical muslums hate Americans, want you dead, no matter what you believe – because as they see you – you are American, an infidel and want to kill you. That my friend is hate. I don't hear Parsley saying kill people who belong to Islam – I hear him saying Islam is against God. The Bible tells us that everyone is enemies of God if there is not faith alone in Christ. Its not about hate – its about belief in the Bible and the hatred that many people in America and beyond have for Christians who will not back down from that.
McCain showed POOR Judgement when he accepted these guys into his circle of friends and MONEY.. McCain only wanted their money and followers to help him in the presidential election. McCain shows he will do anything, say anything and take anybody in to help futher his own personal goals.... NOT America...
No Country For Greedy Ole Men.. McCain..
McCain's relationship with Hagee and Parsley does not compare and does not need to be explained. Hagee's and Parsley's endorsement of McCain is the same as Hammas endorsement of Obama-unimportant.
I believe Obama agrees with Rev Wright completely. Otherwise, he would have been consistent instead of denouncing by degrees as it was politically expedient. I can understand Rev Wright's position. He grew up in a cruel world and it is no wonder that he is "bitter". I believe love and forgiveness (as taught in every church I ever attended) has a better chance of changing the world for the better, and we all know there is a lot that needs to be changed. While it is possible that Obama attended that church because of the people at the church and he was able to separate the wheat from the chaff in Rev Wright's sermons, there is no excuse for Obama taking his daughters to that church to be indoctrinated with that kind of hatred. It is just too late to explain that.
You present this as if Hagee is his pastor and that is absolute BS.
In response to Jake, Republicans seeking support of Hagee and Parsley who spread fear and hate, is very hypocritical of McCain and speaks volumes of McCain, but not in a favorable light that's for sure. Good thing many people in this country are smart enough to see through it. It's as if these type of people Hagee, Parsley, McCain have something to fear? So what are they afraid of? The truth of course.
Hagee has bad mouthed Catholics-no response from McCain. Hagee has bad mouthed gays-no response from McCain. Hagee has bad mouthed Jews-finally-McCain leaps into action. Why is it that the Jewish vote and the security of Israel are so much more important than the interests or needs of the rest of the world?
You can see the bias of the media and the democrats compairing Rev. Wright/Obama mentorship to McCain and these evangelical leaders whom he does not attend church with. Find something on McCain's Pastor and you can compare the two relationships. What needs to be compared is Obama's Liberalism (Raise taxes, spend more) and McCains Maverick (Cut spending).
It is not logical to expect the pastors to talk logical.
I disparage at the thought of dealing with news like this till November.
We’ve got a war on, kids. We’ve got leaders who couldn’t care less about the suffering they cause the people. The “American” way of life has altered so significantly in the last eight years that no one recognizes it anymore.
We need to elevate our thoughts beyond the poisonous words that some so-called men of God spew and get back to the issue at hand; finding someone who can help us rebuild the rubble of our ancestor’s great experiment.
If our country continues downhill (which is where I’m convinced it’s heading right now) my husband and I are applying for Canadian citizenship.
Of course he's going to reject this now. McCain's not a bad guy, but he's not the right guy for this country at this time. It's like hiring the villain's right hand man. Bush was a terrible president and no one will dispute that, and McCain won't be much better.
Anyone who says we're making progress in these hard times is not playing with a full deck.
Just choose wisely America.
The heat has just started. It will pile up soon and we will all see which candidate has clean hands.
For all you race baiters who claim that Hillary supporters are racists.
1. Fact one: If I were racist, I wouldn't have registered as a Democrat.
2. Fact two: I voted against the white half of Obama.
Thanks,
Hillary 08 or McCain if necessary!
The possible best thing that has come out of the Pastor Wright affair is that the so called preachings of all of similar church leaders will come under scrutiny. The press may finally examine and challange what these political charletons have been spewing out for years to the sheep that followed their evey word n order to gain power and personnel wealth.
This is insane ... McCain has to reject the "endorsement" of a couple of nut-jobs and Obama go nailed for his insane preacher. Next Obama will have to distance himself from Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Farrakan's endorsements. Let's have a real discussion about issues.
"Margaret May 23rd, 2008 10:11 am ET
The difference is Hagee was not McCain's personal pastor of 20 YEARS!!!! He did not sit down and listen to the extreme rhetoric for years and then choose him to be his spiritual advisor during his campaign. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!"
It's worse, McCain went looking for these guys to endorse him, for purely political gain.
Obviously McCain is another one that will say or do anything to get a vote. He sought them out for their endorsement to buy their followers votes. he can reject their endorsements all he wants but I don't believe him since he is the one that approached them first.
Just another Republican lie.
Here is an idea, let's debate the political issues on both sides and spend less time vetting spirtual "leaders" . I think the spirtitual messages that these pastors (particularly Hagee) are spreading are a horrible distortions of Christ's message ultimate directive to love our neighbors as ourselves, care for the poor and to be good stewards of the earth ( I know sounds like Obama doesn't it). However, I' ll let God handle the judgement part on his end and take my protest to the Church not the ballot box. In a pluralistic and tolerant democracy of Americans of great moral character in a multitude of religions (or even no religion), let's talk about the issues and not spend the summer following around these "spirtual" mouth pieces that are ultimately flawed human beings. My friends this is just the type of reason we have separations of Church and State in the first place.
Again in America we find that if you are white you are guaranteed the freedom the press will give you better treatment when you are found with your foot in your mouth. As a US Army veteran, it doesn't suprise me. As a black American, we are free to die on the battlefield, but the press gives preferential treatment because CNN, ABC, CBS and FOX controls the press battlefield. Sorry day in America...
CSF
Did you listen to the entire sermon? No, probably not.
You just want to preach to us.
Get a life
What's strange about Hagee is that he doesn't believe that Christ came as the Messiah.
The NT is clear that salvation comes only through Christ, and no exceptions are made. ("I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no man cometh unto the Father but by me.")
Hagee tries to get around this as a way of accommodating Jews politically. It's hard to be as fanatically pro-Israel as he is, while still telling the "chosen" that they've got to accept Jesus.
He's an opportunist of the first order.
Billary got her job because of Bill. She did not get it because of who or what she has done over the years but because of who she sleeps with sometimes at night. Who has ever moved to a state and lived there for less than a year and ran for U.S. Sen. and won? Let the truth be told. Now you all want to high jack the race but I say to you that it will not happen. The people will rise up like never before Black,White,Brown,Yellow,young and old to put a stop to all of you.
She said Obama just gave a speech, well it was his and it was a good one to get him where he is today. He did it himself.
No VP for Billary.
PASTOR HAGEE WAS NOT MCCAIN'S PASTOR NOR SPIRITUAL ADVISOR
MCCAIN DID NOT SIT IN THE PEWS FOR 20YRS!!!
OPRAH WINFREY LEFT THE CHURCH WHEN SHE BECAME UNCOMFORTABLE WITH REV. WRIGHT'S SERMONS WHILE OBAMA AND HIS FAMILY STAYED
At least McCain wasn't with these preacher for 20 years.
I really dont understand these idiots who vote democrat
Exit polls in recent primaries indicate that there seems to be a correlation between religion and racism and Clinton capitalised on that of course. As in W. Virginia and Kentucky.
Only in this country it seems do politicians feel obligated to drag his or her god on to the political platform. We would all benefit from freedom from religion in my view, it does nothing but promote hypocrisy and intolerance.
The people who have commented on this blog are idiots. Those who feeel that Hagee and Parsley are worth anything they preach hate and it is ok. Barack's pastor was rejected in the beginning of his presidency he asked him to not advocate for him. All of the comments I see are racially motivated. Come on CNN do you really need to keep this devisiveness out there. You are not helping. Putting these stupid comments out here. Its all about the ratings and all fall for the BS. They keep this crap going to boost ratings. Those who are going against Obama I can say were never going to vote for him in the beginning. OBAMA 08' GET OVER IT!!!!!!
For those that have been told that there is no chance to obtain their hopes or dreams and that it was useless to try look towards Hillary Clinton as a symbolic figure of hope and strength – the only experienced candidate that has solid solutions to our everyday problems.
I attended a rally by both candidates last week – Obama definitely is a speaker, orator and can move a crowd – but once you get home from the rally you wonder what DID he say – only thing I can come up with is he is going to change politics in Washington DC – yet accepts the endorsements from them.
Clinton (although the media is trying to make Obama the next President rather than letting the voters have their own say) was warm, sincere, experienced with her answers to questions and genuinely wants to help us help ourselves – she enjoyed being there with us – Obama appeared that this was a situation that he had to be there but really was looking towards the general election – so just give me my votes and I will move on – similiar to what happened in New Orleans after HE received the black communites votes – was too busy to attend a reconstruction rally later on – Hillary Clinton attended even though she had not received the votes.
I just recently found out that Obama voted for the liquified natural gas pipeline of Bush-Cheney Energy plan where Clinton opposed it – guess he doesn't have to live here with it.
Please fellow Oregonians – vote with your heart, your conscience, do some research before voting tomorrow – even if you don't like Senator Clinton – a vote for her will be a wake up call for Obama that he can not take Oregon for granted like New Orleans – and that he has to work for us if he wants our vote in November should he be the nominee.
GOD BLESS OUR AMERICA
Whatever CSF.
OBAMA 08!
B-B-BUT... REV WRIGHT..... BLAH-BLAH-BLATHER, 20 YEARS, BLATHER-BLATHER-BLAH.... BAPTISED HIS KIDS...BLUU-BLEEE-BLATHER....
AND HE HATES AMERICA!
John McCain and the Republicans have made it clear they want to attack Obama over Rev. Wright.
The reason John McCain is denouncing these pastors is because he wants the ability to criticize and attack Obama about Rev. Wright. He can't really do that if he has his own problems with his pastors as well?
It wouldn't surprise me if this is all part of elaborate strategy to make McCain look like he's the better man because he rejected his own pastors while it took Obama some time to do it.
Anything to win when you can't win on the issues.
I work with an Evangelical who does not believe in separation of church and state (which for those who do not know was established by the Catholic Church).
So for those people who are unable to distinguish between morality and ethics (no they are not the same thing and yes Christ does make the distinction several times most notably with the give to god what is god's and to ceasar what is ceasar's) congratulations. You have got what you wanted. You have misinterpreted the heart of the law by bowing to the letter of the law.
Hegeel and this other guy who said the bad things about Islam are the fruits of you. Be proud.
By the way Islam accepts Christ as one of the Five Great Prophets. So they are not anti-Christ as some people say.
What about his book "WHAT EVERY MAN WANTS IN A WOMAN" Where he says the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS is that u can negotiate with a terrorist" , He has also said that ................".there was to be a homosexual parade in New Orleans that Monday...........and that he believe hurricane Katrina was in fact, the judgment of GOD against the city of New Orleans.".......-sept.18, 2006, edition of National Public Radio's "fresh Air"
Flip-flop, flip-flop! At first he hound these pastors for their endorsement, now he rejects them. McSane also said in so many words that he would talk to our enemies, now he won't.
Maybe his doctors should run several tests and make sure his memory is in good condition, because it seem like he is having the same problem Reagan had, "I don't recall".
Both Hagee and Wright need serious help. They are relics from the past, and this is a new day. Their messages of hate have no place in America, and I'm glad the light of the national news is focusing on these pastors.
Having said that, I do think the focus on Rev. Wright was over the top. He didn't help himself by coming back out, but he definitely helped Barack.
I believe in the separation of church and state and I don't want to hear from another pastor. The only people I want to hear from are the candidates.
Thinking and actions like this show why McCain is the most qualified person to lead this country.
Forget about bringing the political parties together. That's not what it is about. It's about bringing the country together!
We are all Americans. We need to start acting that way!
McCain is not honorable, the media is finally questioning the remarks and his endorsement of those pastors.
Vote for McCain and please be responsible and have your children/grandchildren enlist in the military. Because we are tired of fighting your battles.
Agreed, McCain did not sit down in a church for 20 years and listen to these pastor's sermons (funny, does the American public really think that Pastor Wright gave sermons like the "manipulated" sound bites that have suraced in the media on every Sunday for 20 yrs??? lol not too bright) but he did sought out the endorsements of these two pastors. Doesn't take a rocket scientist dem or republican to figure out that he must agree with some of their religious/political doctrins and beliefs, and the influence these two men have in the pulpit. Quite honestly, all of the remarks I've heard from all three pastors are highly inappropriate.
I think it's cool that someone like Sen. Byrd endorsed Obama. Think about it. . . this man had very different and radical beliefs about race many years ago. . .but has since renounced and shifted his beliefs. . . to a point where he endorses an African American! My point is that none of us hold the same beliefs over time. . .we grow and change (at least we're supposed to). So it's a weak argument to say that any of these men, Revs Wright, Paisley, Hagee & Sens Obama and McCain,are somehow linked to each other in terms of thinking and beliefs. I like to think that many of the weak arguments I've read on this blog comes more from heightened emotions rather than common sense. America.....lets move on....PLEASE!
...Are all pastors crazy...Huckabee sounds good to me?
McCain is no better, he should have not even sought the endorsement of those that preach fear and hate, especially, Hagee and Parsley. McCain is supposed to be smarter and wiser for his age, and experience. This I question, because he has thus far turned out to be the biggest hypocrite. Bad move on McCain's part, and this is what his "experience," gives the American people? No thank you!!!!
To all the people saying that Obama "subjected his children" to the teaching sof Reverend Wright – have you heard of Sunday School?
OBVIOUSLY Obama's girls weren't listening to sermons, they were in Sunday School...
Who cares?
McCain sought out Pastor Hagee. There was a competition among the Repub candidates in the primary to secure Hagee's endorsement. McCain won. McCain then asked Hagee to campaign with him. Now McCain dumps Hagee for well-known positions Hagee has held. What was McCain thinking in the first place? Makes one question his judgement...
Hillary is the only one without pastor problems. What is wrong with you Obama people? Your boy has never explained his 20 years with Wright! Doesn't that bother you? Are you okay with his "judgement"? What is it you like about this guy? And please, don't use any of the words below:
"hope"
"change"
"inspire"
"yes we can"
They're all meaningless and more fitting for Dr. Phil or a cult leader.
Not the same as Uncle Wright. When has Obama been to Iraq? Too dangerous for him? Obama is a coward and a liar. Will he run the White House like he has ran the chairmanship of the committe on Al Qeada in Afghanistan? Write Hillary Clinton on your ballot in November.
Steve from Oregon:
You've got to be joking...with Rev. Wright and Obama's history your comments are laughable. Twenty years! You are the true definition of an Obamabot.
You are like Borg drones. Mindless automatons.
These comments came to light months ago and were being reported all over the internet blogs, and NOW because the mainstream media's finally gotten around to picking it up because they're focusing on the general election rather than Hillary's latest lesson in crazy person math, he's denouncing them.
Don't be fooled people, he's known for some time about these comments. That said, he's spoken out against similar types of people like Falwell back in 2000, before the Christian Right made him lose an election and he was just trying to appease them. It's sad to see someone like McCain, who used to be well regarded for his independence, pander so much.
During this Memorial Day holiday, remember what's really important–bringing the soldiers home. We need to regroup and strengthen ourselves in case there's a serious threat.
Bush made huge mistakes, and he brought this country down, down, down. Now we have to select the right person to take this country back to where it was before the Bush administration.
Gas prices used to be 28. a barrel-today it was 135. We need a change.
The Stupid republicans and Foxnews where running the snippets of Rev. Wright 24 hrs a day. Now they are hiding under their bed when one of their own people Pastor John Hagee and Pastor Rod Parsley are in the spot light what a double standard republicans are a disgrace to America we should all reject and Denounce them, in my view this world shoud be ruled by Liberal Democrats and by the False Christians(Republicans).
@ Paul: "Considering McCain left his disabled wife (she had a car accident while he was a prisoner of war) and had many affairs while still married to her, including one that lead to his current wife, Cindy."
Thank you for your intelligent insight! Not to mention that the Billary supporters pounced on this one to tie Obama to Hamas again (and again, I'd like someone to explain why the Palestinians can't be angry that we stole land from them and gave it to another race of people), but none of you talked about Hilary's pastor being jailed on child abuse charges...
Where's the honor in a man who believes in the continuation of this war killing our sons and daughters for another 100 years! Our economy is in the pits! We are suppose to be a super power? We are suppose to be leaders of the free world!
McCain Pastor Problems?
McCain did NOT sit in either of these pastors pews for 20 years listening to anti-American and anti-White hate speech.
This is just the elite media trying to create drama for their 24/7 news monsters!
No Carter second term!
Go McCain!!
oh please.AFTER weighing and balancing the politcal consequences of these rejections.. he FINALLY decides to do so?..we call can agree (even i as a Obama supporter)that Rev Wright was vile to some degree.. but that Obama ALMOST choose loyalty over political correct-ness in his hesitation to denounce the pastor.. in fact, he had nothing to GAIN OR LOSE with having ties with the Rev..Mr. MCcain sought after these endorsements without even knowing about them... duh!..feedback anyone?
Both of Obama and McCain have problem with Pastor so let dump them
and elect Hillary to be our next President. She the most Experience than
anybody else in the White House.
McCain must not of liked how that Pastor ruled Adultery as a Crime!!
Adultery is how McCain met his current wife Cindy, who is 18 years younger than him.
They met in 1979. Later in April of 1980 McCain divorced his 1st wife, and then married Cindy within 30 days!!!
Ofcourse, there's that whole lobbist issue around 1990, and the possibility that McCain committed Adultery a second time, but this time against Cindy.
Lets face it serious biblical scholars will agree that these pastors are actually telling the truth from a biblical stand point. Why reject the truth when it is "In God we trust". All for the sake of political correctness. Well I guess it is just politics after all. Good luck John McCain.
I know that the world is in a some what of a recess, it does not want to wake up to the smell of the coffee brewing for mankind. The good old boys are about to go to roof. PREDJUICE IS STILL THE GAME, dont try & cover it up with JESUS.
I really don't understand those idiiots who vote democrat. BTW, the Dems don't understand themselves so how could they understand the Republicans? And as for McCain, I can't stand him, and I AM a Republican from the Great State of Arizona.
Correction This Would should be ruled by Democrats NOT by Repulican the False Christians.
What good for the gander is good for the goose. Don't judge Obama's
affiliation with his pastor if your not going to judge mccains affliliations with these pastors. HATE IS HATE doesn't matter where it comes from.
Lastly, from a political perspective,
Pennsylvania is now even more of a pretty sure thing because of the Hagee comment
Michigan now looks more likely because of the Parsley comment
Florida now looks more possible because of the Hagee comment
If any two of these three happen, McCain has to steal Cali to win.
Wake up America and come to your senses.
McBushCain's own medicalrecords reveal that
he has to be kept on a permanent regime of
Geriatric Medical Care.
Those are the cold hard facts. Why on earth would you enter such a person in the world's most grueling eight year marathon. There comes a time when we have to put the needs of the country ahead of theabsurd desires of some one who is no longer fit to do the job.
We do it all the time, in all other walks of life.The social security retirement age standard has been established for a very good reason. Beyond that age, most people are no longer up to the rigors of full time employment.
Ask yourself this: Would you feel secure about going on long international jet flights, every day, for the next eight years, if John McCain was going to always fly the plane?
If not, then why on earth would you let him pilot our future for the next eight years?
Do not tell me that it is only for four years. Why would youi vote for someone to only have one term, because you feel that they would not be vigorous enough to go the distance.
The Presidency of The United States of America ages persons much younger than John McCain. It is the most demanding job in the world. John McCain is too old to take on the world's most important role.
You know that you would not put someone of his age in charge of even a small business. Then why on earth would you even be tempted to put him in charge of all our futures.
The Presidency Is No Country For Old Men.
Good for McCain...glad to hear he is rejecting these divisive pastors who are intent on making the U.S. as dangerously religiously militant as some of our enemies. My only concern is that this news is getting only a fraction of the coverage in the media that Obama had to endure. Shameful.
Casey, a pastor preaching about whitey inventing a disease to kill of the black man, IS NOT PREACHING ABOUT SOCIAL INJUSTICE. get your head out of the sand. He preached to rile people up, to get them to hate whites, browns, yellows, reds. If there are so many injusteices against the black community, how did Mr Obama and his wife become so well educated???? HMMMMMMMM. Probably becauce a lot of their schooling was paid for. That doesn't happen very often for a white student. You are equal, if you let yourself be and let the past be the past, but Wright won't let it go, he's like a dog with a bone. He should be trying to raise up his congregation not make them discontented with the world.
Separation of Church and State.
Ron Larson May 23rd, 2008 10:13 am ET
Actually Islam is not a conspiracy of evil, it's imply a false religion that rejects the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The history of Islam and the present conflicts in the world can be tied directly to this satanic heresy. ItMhammed advocated and promulgated violence acquiesence to it doctrines. Worship like we do, or we will not hesitate to rape, killtorture you. Now not all leaders or adherents follow that edict, but it's viloent adherents are icreasing, not because of the Bush Administrations policies, but because the most vocal of it's leadership beleives falsely that they are doing Allah's will by doing so.
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Sorry Ron but the Koran actually reveres Jesus as one of Allahs most important prophets, they don't even deny him as the Son of God, they just believe that the word of Allah as given to Mohammed supercedes what was brought to Gods people by Jesus.
I still won't vote for obama.
There you have it.
Both have that problem of past pastors. So stop jumping on Obama. Bottom line: Religion should have no place when it comes to REAL decisions. Leave superstitions in your home. Honestly, religion should have no say anymore.....barbaric idea to believe in such things in the year 2008. We are smarter than that.
It is not possible to please everyone. These candidates are trying to be everyone's friend., and that is not possible. This crap is nonsense. All trees produce fruit of its own kind. An Islamic tree produces good fruit or evil truit? What are the facts people? The fact is that there is evil in the world and there are evil people born out of evil roots. Islam is a flawed ideology. Why? Because it is anti-Christ.
McCain should not have rejected this man because of a word. There is no comparison between this and Obama.
for: ALL THE WAY TO DENVER and Julie
NOT VOTING OR VOTING FOR MCCAIN IS THE WORSE THING A DEMOCRATES CAN DO!!!
DO NOT LET HATE CONTROL YOUR FUTURE IF YOU DO NOT VOTE OR VOTE FOR THE GOP, YOU HAVE GIVEN UP YOUR FUTURE.
Democrates NEED 2 START THINKING WITH YOUR MIND NOT YOUR HEART- BECAUSE THE GOP WILL BREAK IT FOR ANOTHER 4YRS.
Democrates for 08
I find be extremely insulting insinuating Jewish mistrust of Obama is a merely a petty “churlish whisper campaign” as described by Thomas Friedman in the NY Times. The fact is there is real solid evidence about Obama’s past affiliations and actions that legitimately bring Obama’s credibility, morals, judgment and leadership into question. Its unfortunate the reason why we don’t read or hear more about the deficiencies in Obama’s judgment is the fact that he is the darling of the media establishment who has hyped him to mythical proportions.
McCain is a joker.
Deal with it, Obama is going to win this election in November, and I'm not sure whom I voting for yet, honestly, I dislike both Obama and McCain as my choices... but I am sharp enough to see the writing on the wall here... people want change, McCain isn't any different than "W". People are seeing this. Glad to see the Clinton machine dying though.
Obama 1 McCain 2
Wright = (McCain Pastor 1 + Pastor 2)
Therefore
Obama 1 McCain 1
Now that things are even, let the games begin. People stop playing this childish mathematics. Time to move on and see what happens in November. Wright nor John Hagee nor Rod Parsley (notice I did not call them Pastor cause they are way off the Pastor scale) are running for president of the USA. You Americans need to stop ranting and raving trying to keep the pastoral score. Next is what? Cancer cell count score? Please stop, this is ridiculous, utterly childish!! Get down to the substance of these people. And you claim to be the beacon of democracy to the World?!?! Shame on you! People around the world look up to you for your democratic system but this is really disappointing! After you have gone at each other's throat, come November you will have no strength left to be leaders of the World.
The only candidate who doesn't have ties to such extreme religious leaders is Sen. Clinton. And on top of that, she's the most capable candidate.
So I am still hoping the superdelegates will do the right thing. They can vote for whomever they want, of course, as evidenced by the fact that Sen. Byrd chose to vote for Obama despite the fact that the people of W. Va. voted overwhelmingly for Clinton. But I have to have faith that most superdelegates are true patriots and will not use their sacred vote to soothe their conscience for past mistakes or to advance their career or legacy and certainly not to cave to pressure from the news shows and chattering pundits. We ;have serious problems, and our wounded country needs a well-prepared and competent president.
These politicians are getting what they deserve for trying to pander to to organized religions. McCain sought Hagee's and Parsley's endorsement to pander to the Christian Republican Church Party.
These candidates pretend to be religious and then they get bitten when they latch on to the wrong wacko.
We don't care what form of magic a politician believes in. They should keep it to themselves. We care about true values and ideas.
I dont understand why we care so much for these preachers paster , ayers and even for that matter gay marriage.
Discuss Economy, Healthcare, Education reforms, iraq war. These are the things we should care about.
I'm still waiting for the Republican Party to comment on Falwell's and Robertson's comments that 9/11 happened due to God's wrath against liberals, abortionists and gays, et al.
It'll never happen.
You all should live, and better yet worship, near Hagge's shrine to himself. This self-promoting, "Zionist Christian" is the most two-faced person around. He constantly rails against our parish, just up the street from his "shrine."
I witnessed this train wreck in person one Sunday when I showed up to hear the "pastor" preach. It was pure hate and garbage, and that's where his congregation gets their "speaking points" for their week's entertainment.
Reverend Wright was wrong, but he's a rank amateur compared to Falwell, Robertson and Hagee!
Hagee endorsed Sen. Mc(Walking)Cain months ago, but there was no need to distance himself because at that time, it was politically convenient to have him on board. Now that there's no Jeremiah Wright, and the Obama/Hillary confusion is starting to wind down, he's trying to clean his own house to get a jump on the news media.
It won't work, McCain. Now, who gets to shtup your wife when you can't get Albert out of bed? Me first, me first!!
GO OBAMA '08!!
Politics and religion should never mix. Disasters abound
The media has virtually ignored McCain's clergy problems, which are far worse than anything Jeremiah Wright has said. In addition, McCain sought out these men not as clergy on a personal basis but as political supporters. It's about time this spotlight turned on McCain.
You need to first reject Rush Limbaugh.
Then you are done.
Either way you loose.. loose Gracefully.
OBAMA / AL GORE 2008
The truth is America made a grave mistake by selecting George Bush in 2004, and allowing him to steal the election in 2000. I hope that we don't make the same mistake again.
Hillary is doing her best to pronounce that if Florida and Michigan aren't counted Barack will steal the election. When everyone knows she signed the agreement to the rules, and she said Michigan wouldn't count before her campaign was behind in the delegate count.
I want an honest president who won't bend the rules, or lie to America when things don't go their way.
Let's do the right thing and pick the best candidate for the job. That candidate is Barack Obama, no contest.
I'm shocked–these are McBush's people..let them stay on board
I agree with proud army and navy mom. Pastors are not running for President. Sen. Obama has the right and privilege to discern what is preached or ministered to him. That's why you should read the Bible for yourselves. When you go to church, you are there to worship and give praise to the almighty. You take what you think is best for you from the sermons that are preached. Pastors/Ministers and everybody else have to answer to God not man.
With that said, you don't church hop. As I said you are there for worship.
Oh you bastard, you sought it out you jerk?
It is amazing to me how people will vote for a candidate that does not have their best interest at heart. Obama has come from being of the low income sector to what he is now. Why would you vote for someone who has been rich all of their life and claim to know what the less fortunate need. I need someone who know about student loans, welfare, section 8, working for nothing, etc. and this man represents that for me.
Obama 08/12
There are too many ignorant attacks on McCain because of his age.
Please cease with the stereotypes.
McCain is in good health and has a lot of energy. He has a sharp mind and deals with problems courageously and directly.
Obama is the one who
dismisses people (the "sweetie" reporter) and dodges issues.
Think of McCain as being ten years younger. That's probably closer to his real age.
As for the skin problems, lots of people have to be checked out and have had lesions. McCain will be fine because he gets checked every few months.
The ozone is depleted and the peak UV rays, which used to be from 10-2 are now from 10-4. Everyone needs to be careful. Stay out of the sun! At least wear sunblock!
This paster I believe is hate mongering by prior history and certainly is a federal crime. It clearly underscores the reason there must be a clear and unequivocal separation of church and state.
"There is difference between listening to someone for 20 years plus calling them your Mentor and someone endorsing you because they are a Republican. Any Obamabots who think otherwise are racist. Period"
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Show me a preacher who NEVER says anything controversial or offensive, and I'll show you an unemployed preacher.
Deep down, we all know that, but we don't want to admit it. You should read the Bible more often.
Every single prophet, from Moses to Jesus himself, has said controversial and offensive statements to and about the powers that be. Why do you think they crucified him in the first place?
Please, before you and others dump on either Rev. Wright or Pastor Hagee, or any other preacher, read the Gospels in their entirety, and you will find that these preachers are just doing their jobs.
For instance, let's take the most offensive statement from Rev. Wright, where he said "God **** America". Well, there are many instances where God cursed the Israelites and Israel itself because they refused to worship only him, etc.
Rev. Wright was just extrapolating that to USA. I know it's not politically correct to say that, but we as Americans don't always follow God the way we should, and it's possible that God may curse us.
Think about it for a while.
southerner
You comments and moniker reek of racism.
Your dry cleaner just called and your sheet and hood are ready.
Obama 4 president... all the way Obama 08... This is worser than Reverend Wright's issue, can i hear Hannity or Oreilly or foxnews talk about this mccain pastor's issue ??? haters Obama will win this nomination .....
religious nut jobs and a crazzzy politition.
What rev. Wright said...is nothing compared to what came out of these stupid pastors mouths.
OBAMA '08
This is very good news. I am sure he was snickering behind the scenes during that whole Wright deal. I am just going to see how the media portrays this new development!!!! Let's see if this story manages to be seen on EVERY news outlet-24/7 as did the other story. Let's see if HAGEE's words can be construed as McCain's OWN words and beliefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'll answer that I VENTURE TO SAY NOT!!!!!!!!!!
McCain is a two-faced idiot like Bush. He should be defeated by a 4-1 margin by the American people.
Thank you Rudy NYC, maybe some HRC voters will better understand why she should play by the rules and not try to change them as the game is played, in her favor. I can see a woman for president, just not this woman, she has lacks in experience and runs a campaign on divisiveness. Now the race card she can played very well ,in her favor of course, in KY and West VA. She knew exactly what she was doing and saying. This was no misspeak there. This also speaks volumes of her character.
McCain is walking a fine line; sucking up to all the right chosen people while still appearing palatable to the rest of society. AIPAC (the Israeli group who pretty well dictates American foreign policy) loves Parsley and Hagee, though. Funny stuff.
Almost as funny as Hagee, a Protestant, calling the original Church "apostate".
There is no place for that kind of dialogue in the WORLD, not just America.
“All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom.” – Albert Einstein
John's PASTOR PROBLEMS pale to insignificance when you compare them to Senator Obama's 20 YEAR BROTHERHOOD with the ANTI-AMERICAN and WHITE-HATING Rev. Wright.
Just another GOOD reason to KEEP RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS!
How prepared is he to seek these pastors endorsement and not know their back ground. He knew months ago of these two pastor statements. Now that it's more on the news he has to reject their endorsement. How out of touch is he!
On another note.
Even with FL and MI Sen. Clinton will not receive all of the Delegates, which mean she still can not over take Obama. Sen. Clinton should have care about the little state when it matter. Now she wants to pretend she care. Give us a break and stop being so phooooony.
I don’t want to support a president who do not have a plan B in the event that plan A don’t work. But if Sen. Clinton manage to get the nominee I will vote for her, because I am a true democrat. My loyalty lies with the DEMOCRAT PARTY NOT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL. I have routed for the democrat nominee who ever they were for years whether I like them or not, which leads me to believe you who say because Sen. Clinton don’t get the nominee are not true democrats as simple as that and just plan crazy.
Obama to reach 2026 minus 1965 needs 61 more votes for the nominee.
Clinton to reach 2026 minus 1779 needs 247 more votes for the nominee.
Who do you think will get there first?
We have DEMOCRATS who say they won’t vote for OBAMA, but we have just as many REPUBLICANS who say they will. Just something to think about for you CLINTON SUPPORTS who won’t support OBAMA.
It sounds like an EVEN TRADE TO ME, except the cross over REPUBLICANS is getting the better part of the deal. Just my 2 cents or 1.
Now is the time to SHANK HANDS, KISS and make up to get ahead of the game.
Just my view as an under educated voter against the well educated voter.
Obama 08!
Distract the people and they won't pay attention to the real problems at hand such as gas prices, the economy, health care, the state of the united states.
Somebody, please keep this type of non-sense going and the people won't remember when they last read a product that said "Made in the USA"
Yeah, thanks for the distraction...but know I'm more intelligent than the MEDIA is willing to give me credit for.
Now back to the candidates...Obama 08"
I heard the speech that Hagee made about Hitler. He wasn't making Hitler out to be good and Jews bad. He was explaining that in the bible it said how Jews would be persecuted by being hunted down. Hitler was "the hunter", that was his role in the story. The event of the holocaust led to many Jews returning to their homeland.
I guess you aren't supposed to talk about it anymore.
WAKE UP PEOPLE–
Democrates for 08
These 2 characters are McCain's pastors. They are just two lugnuts trying to get attention. Wright was Obama's pastor for 20 years. That's a big difference!
Margaret- you know nothing about Rev Wright church. You only go by what the media has told you. The church is mostly white and hate was not preached every sunday. Please do some reseach on the church. Then come to your own conclusion instead of letting other people decide for you
If you support Clinton, then vote McCain, you're stupid. Listen to Hillary: McCain has lost his bearings, and will make things worse.
What has happened to Rev Wright. After his little self parody which gave Obambi-Carter an opportunity to reject him, he disappeared off the face of the media. How convenient for the Democratic Party. It took Obambi-Carter twenty years to catch on.
the news media is all into separation of church and state except if it sells newspapers and ratings. it should never be a minister said it should always be what the person themselves says. i am voting for obama and have been a republican all my life-but church and state is separate except for the news???? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. if it were mccain said or obama said then that is polictics–not what their minister said.
i am a christian and know that i worship God not a minister, anyone who does worship a minister is in for trouble because we all fall short of the glory of God.
If I were the DNC leadership, I would make Hillary sign an agreement on May 31st that she will abide by the rules. That may be hard, since she makes things up as she goes along, but someone has to hold her accountable for her actions. She is political poison and won't be good for any party. Oh, she could start the Clinton Party, that's the only party she would be good for.
This situation is much worse. Obama never actively sought the endorsement of Rev. Wright for Political gain the way McCain did. McCain was looking to use the endorsements of Hagee and Parsely to gain inroads to right wing conservatives. It's completely transparent and disingenuous. McCain should have done his due diligence.
Hagee and Parseley think that by endorsing a Republican, the morality of this country will be turned around - entirely contrary to the teaching of the Bible. They want to change lives on the quick and not willing to do the hard work - winning souls one at a time. They are televangelists for a reason - taking the easy way.
One more reason to separate church and state! Leave all these nutcases out of the political process please!
Proud to be atheist!!!
Man what pastor Hagee said about Jews is worst than what Rev Wright could have ever said. That was a direct hit on the Jewish community.
Also, Pastor Parsley hatred for the Islam world is down right despicable.
What a shame and you wonder why America is not so liked around the world.
Don't care what you say but Rev.Wright did not spew hate on Jewish community nor the Islam community.
These pastors need to stop preaching and retire just like Rev.Wright they don't need to be preaching the word of God.
Boy I tell you the republicans are not good for this country and how they have been running it.
We need a president of Barack Obama who's DNA has a make up of many people there for he understands the needs of all American and those around the world.
What a great! president he is going to be...
Obama 08
This question goes to the "Southerner"
Your comment...
"There is a huge difference between receiving the endorsement of a pastor, and going to their church for 20 years."
I hear you people complaining about the infamous Rev. Wright all the time. You say he preaches hate and is unpatriotic and then turn around and pledge allegiance to your Confederate flag.
Isn't that being hypocritical?
And don't tell me that you are just honoring your backwards southern heritage...
I find it interesting that this gets a teeny weenie blurb while the issues surrounding Pastor Jeremiah Wright got pages, days and news stories about him for weeks...
Someone tell me how the Government won`t hire anyone to work for them over 65 yrs of age but You can become president of the united states at 72 yrs old and be over the government, why don`t our country pay attention to the rules they make and abide by them.John McCain has paid his dues so let him sit down (retire ) and let someone else have at it.
Hagees church is full of mindless dittoheads.
No one wants to believe that Obama never heard any of the "hateful" things Wright had to say while he was a member of his church, yet you believe that McCain didn't know about the views and comments of these two pastors before he actively saught out their endorsements?? Give me a break!!! DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
McCain went after both Parsely and Hagee. They didn't come to McCain, McCain went to them! Huge difference. McCain sought their endorsements and now is rejecting them. Hagee and Parsley didn't want to endorse McCain but McCain begged them for their endorsement. And now he acts like he never wanted them and these are horrible men. If that is not hypocricy and horrible judgment then I don't know what is.
ONCE AGAIN FOLKS, this is not his pastor, he has not sit under this mans teaching for the last 20 years actually he has never sit under this mans teaching at all. So why would CNN word this the way they OH I forgot CNN is an OBAMA kool-aid drinker. HILLARY CLINTON AS A INDEPENDENT THIS FALL. This is one of many LIFELONG DEMOCRATS that would switch for her any day. I will never have to apologize for voting for Obama.
one thing mcbush and billary seem to forget
what goes around comes around amen
I applaud John McCain for finally telling these evangelical "Money Is My Real God" wackos to buzz off, even if belatedly. These Lexus Christians are the real ones who are dragging down the morality of our nation through their open hypocrisy.
Well, McCain can reject all the endorsements he wants but the simple truth is that he sought and asked for Hagee's endorsement. Thought it would get him the Bush base evangelicals. What a flip-flopper!
I just want to say this here because there is no other blog open right now:
To all you Hillary supporters that accuse Obama of lying or cheating or being a hypocrite:
GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF IT, BUT YOU CANT BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE,
YOU JUST HEARD SOME RUMOR AND TWISTED IT IN YOUR HEAD, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIFIC EXAMPLES
YOU HAVE NOTHING
SO SHUT IT
ATTACK McCAIN
McCain is a hypocrite.
Obama was not endorsed by Wright, Wright was his Pastor, his RELIGIOUS GUIDE. He was never Obama's political partner or guide.
McCain called Ron Parsley his Spiritual guide, and a moral voice in America.
McCain SOUGHT the POLITICAL endorsement of Pastor Hagee...a man who stated that Hurricain Katrina was God's wrath against New Orleans for allowing a Gay pride parade.
Being a Hurricain Katrina survivor myself, I and a lot of people in Lousiana, are very upset at Hagee and the GOP who did NOTHING to help us, or fix our damaged city (Which God destroyed because of a Gay Pride Parade). Thousands of us are still displaced, living in cities all over the country unable to return home.
So Hagee, Parsley, McCain, and George W Bush can go screw themselves!
YOU ARE GOING TO LOOSE LOUISIANA & MISSISSIPPI THIS FALL!
WE HURRICAIN KATRINA VICTIMS CURSED BY YOUR god GURANTEE THIS!
Everything you need to know about politics!!
Quotes from Niccolo Machiavelli; Italian writer and statesman, Florentine patriot, author of 'The Prince', 1469-1527
“A prince must imitate the fox and the lion, for the lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. Those that wish to be only lions do not understand this. Therefore, a prudent ruler ought not to keep faith when by so doing it would be against his interest, and when the reasons which made him bind himself no longer exist. If men were all good, this precept would not be a good one; but as they are bad, and would not observe their faith with you, so you are not bound to keep faith with them.”
“Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by the sense of touch, because everyone can see, but only a few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are, and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion.”
“Of mankind we may say in general they are fickle, hypocritical, and greedy of gain.”
“The promise given was a necessity of the past: the word broken is a necessity of the present.”
“Politics have no relation to morals.”
“There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first kind is excellent, the second good, and the third kind useless.”
To Julie,
You are not a Democrat, because no Democrat would ever think of voting for McCain or any other perverted cult member [read Republican]. Throw your vote away and end up with a Bush clone for 4 years. This country can't afford someone like Bush for 4 more years.
MCcain sought out Hagee's endorsement for a few years. MCcain knew that Hagee preached about hate. MCcain didn't care if his endorsement was from a hatemonger. All MCcain cares about is winning the election by any means necessary even if that means having hate groups like the KKK and the Nazis support him. MCcain is disgusting and should be ashamed of him self.
the repubs and demo's are far from the truth.
and we allways tried to find a king and thers only one
seek, find, and ask!
Parsley's comments were pretty awful. I'm glad to see McCain doesn't think that way.
OLD REPUBLICANS TACTICS WONT WORK THIS TIME,
IM OBAMA TO THE END NOW BABY
JEWS FOR OBAMA
Hate speech and church go together like peanut butter and jelly.
Which is one of many good reasons to have a seperation of church and state.
I just pinched myself and guess what? I'm a real person who has an opinion different from others on this blog. I do not lie or pretend to be someone I'm not. "A wise man/woman changes, a fool changes not". If you find it necessary to change something you have believed in for many years, then do it. Besides, just because my posts are making sense without being rude or vulgar doesn't mean I'm a hired writer.
McCain has faults but one of them is not checking out of America on Sunday morning for 20 years.
Barack is looking and sounding very PC lately but what has he really done and what is he really thinking? We may never fully know.
I appreciate John McCain's service, but so many others were prisoners of war as well. That should not give him an instant ticket to the White House. He served the country honorably, and we thank him for that, but he by no means is the right person for this country.
No matter what your feelings are toward Barack or Hillary, this country needs a Democrat in the White House. If I don't get my first choice, I'm certainly not throwing America into another war with McCain. I'm jus not. No way.
appreciate John McCain's service, but so many others were prisoners of war as well. That should not give him an instant ticket to the White House. He served the country honorably, and we thank him for that, but he by no means is the right person for this country.
No matter what your feelings are toward Barack or Hillary, this country needs a Democrat in the White House. If I don't get my first choice, I'm certainly not throwing America into another war with McCain. I'm just not. No way.
McCain makes a big deal saying that Hamas endorsed Obama in which Obama never sought and has rejected.
McCain spends a FULL YEAR SEEKING THE ENDORSEMENT OF HAGEE and was so proud of it he held a press conference with Sen. John Cornyn of Texas (by the way, someone who has had a relationship with Hagee for many years) so what's u with the Staigh Talk Express. According to McCain, if someone endorses you then you are suppose to conclude that you share their views. If you go out an seek those endorsesments isn't that even worse?
FACT
Tax revenue averages out to exactly 19.5% of the GDP from world war 2 all the way to 2006. This happens regardless of how much we pay in taxes....
why? Because the government takes their money taxing the incomes and profits of businesses...
FACT
The economy expands faster, and more taxes are collected, when you lower the federal tax rate on the citizen.
FACT
World oil consumption demands 86.5 million barrels per day, while the supply is only 85 million per day. That means the remaining barrels are taken from oil company reserves.
Hence the high price of gas. You ask why profits? It's because we are buying their personal reserve, and that is where the profit comes from...
they dont' make a profit on the $750 billion they have to buy annually from foreign leaders...
SUMMARY
Do some research for yourself... ignore party lines, and have a brain...
McCain's pastor problem is very different, and much more a negative reflection of the candidate, than Obama's Reverend Wright situation. Obama's connection was entirely spiritual, while McCain's was purely political. When Obama heard of the comments that triggered the Wright flap, he immediately rejected them, McCain had to know about the radical statements of the his two pastor indorsers ... they were all over the press ... and he sought out and welcomed their endorsements, only bailing after the Hitler remark made them both even more of a political liability. Flip flop. Finger in the wind. Whatever happened to 'Straight Talk'?
God is not the author of confusion so when they don't agree somebody is confused
OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I meant they AREN"T McCain's pastors.
CNN keeps playing up this non-story. What is it with CNN? There is no story here. The guy was not his pastor for 20 years – OK? McCain didn't fumble – he rejected this guy right away. This is not anything close to the Obama/Wright story but CNN would love to make it controversial.
He had to reject Hagee, and quickly otherwise Hagee would be the subject over this long holiday weekend. McCain couldn't afford that.
Obama 08
Good for McCain dumping this pastor, and even better him not sitting in the pews listening to him for 20 years. It sounds like some of these religious leaders need to be muzzled.
Has anyone checked out Rod Parsley's sermon's on tv where he talks about Catholics going to hell?
The GOP is a complete joke. The sad thing is, a large part of the GOP base actually agrees with Hagee and Parsley.
The republican base represents everything that is WRONG with this country.
McCain has no pastor problems....he neither attended nor had the long term realtionship that Obummer had with Jeremiah Wright,a nd in fact, the fact the McCain has immediately seperated himself from Parsley and Hagee is msot of us in the Body of Christ know that these two are Word of Faith heretics, false prophets, there greed and self promotion are legendary, and he wisely distanced himself from these "spirings without water."
McCain needs to be honest and tell people not about his most recent appointed pastor, but the one prior that had been his pastor for many years. Cindy needs to be honest and release her tax information, with all McCain's lobbyist having left, could her tax information show some connection. Keeping them honest.
I have not heard the term Obummer before, but it works for me.
What's more foolish – suffering a fool for years and taking the good with the bad? OR, not doing a background check and asking for a live in?
Not being judegemental, but to give a crude analogy,
one sounds like a marraige where one of the spouses does some whacky things but on par has been a good spouse and parent.
the other sounds like you want to be married, so you go out and date and ask someone to move in with you (or in the same complex) without doing any background check.
Something to ponder, which is a worse demonstration of judgement?
please don"t forget REV M. Huckabee remarks at the NRA in Louisville,Ky. after all he has said he would like to be The VP with J. Mccain.
you news people have let Huckabee play this off as a joke.
it's not a joke to point guns or shoot people
I would like to no way Huckabee thinks this would be a joke?
I would like to no if Huckabee would think it was a joke if someone said what he said about him?.
NO!!!!
HUCKABEE WOULD BE CRYING LIKE A BABY!!!!
AND CNN WOULD BE COVERING EVER TEAR
Sheer politics. Of course, McCain does not want to lost the almost 3 million Jewish votes!
Whole heartedly agree with you, "Eith". Go McCain! Go Republican!
Wright ,Hagee,Parsley are held accountable for the thing they do and said in the eyes of God. God do not hold Obama and McClain accountable so why should I.
Took him long enough. Perhaps it just slipped ol' McCranky's mind. That seems to be happening a lot these days. Of course he just acts as if this information is completely new and shocking to him, when this stuff has been out there for months. And if anyone wants to question the mighty McSame on that, then he'll just call you a naive, unpatriotic terrorist co-conspirator. A pleasant man indeed.
The evangelicals are truly lunatics and we better keep them out of politics or the entire country will have to be in church everyday.
Steve From Oregon May 23rd, 2008 10:44 am ET
First off; it's good to hear the Senator is cancer free. Back to the subject. His actively seeking endorsements from these two nut cases shows just how uninformed and ill prepared he is in his campaign. Doesn't this give us a clue as to his ability to head this country? He is an uninspiring Senator who seems to make decisions for stupid reasons. ie: Not revamping the GI bill because he's afraid what it will do to the service retention rate. Give the military men and women their due Senator. You can always bring back the draft if you get elected.
Vote Obama, President for the next eight years
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i second that motion steve. two candidates have stated that they, because of their many years of experience, they would be the best person to be the next president, McCain …..two pastors within the last 48 hrs, Clinton ….using the people that are already drained financially and emotional from hard ship, flip flopping on her agreement not two count the two states that broke the DNC rules and lastly she TOLD a group of bloggers who support her candidacy that she encouraged efforts to LOBBY the committee on that day (May 31).
These two are wild……
Didn't Mcain seek the endorsements of these two wackos?
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal looks like the best V.P. candidate for McCain if you take a peek at the short list on CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/27/possible.vice.presidents/index.html
His strengths are his experience in health care, education and senate.
This is the man with both legislative and executive experience. He has lots more experience than Obama has, but he is younger.
Jindal was born June 10, 1971 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University after graduating from Brown University. Together, Jindal and McCain sums up to 108 years old and tons of experience. Jindal will make a great V.P. for McCain.
What is with the many Hillary supporters who are delusional about this FL/MI situation? Blame those states' leaders responsible for breaking the rules, not the DNC. Even Hillary had agreed to the rules.
Why are they not excited about the most articulate, thoughtful, charismatic, and likeable presidential candidate of this generation?
Why has the brillance of his campaign not convinced you he knows what he's doing and is prepared to be a phenomenal president?
Hillary Clinton is a talented and intelligent woman. I can see why people like her. But how can one not like Brack Obama?
To Ron Larson:
You're an absolute bigoted idiot. You're the reason I reject most religion, because of the 'holier than thou' attitude you have.
Just because a religion rejects what you beleive doesn't make it fundamentally evil. It makes it a different religion moron. And Christians seem to have a really hard time with that. I've never heard any religion spew more hate and bigotry than Christian ministers behind the pulpit.
You're as bad, sir, as the EXTREME element that you categorize all Islam by. The problem with any religion is fundamentalist NUTBAGS like you.
John, Catholic:
Amen. I think this "preacher-gate" problem would go away if everybody just read the Bible.
Unfortunately, reading the Bible is hard. Not because it's at a 12th grade reading level. Because it tells us EXACTLY what we don't want to hear.
We also need to somehow get over our fear/hatred of Muslims. They worship the same God that we do. They are our brothers and sisters, too.
I suppose this is a global version of "sibling rivalry".
This is kindergarden journalism. These people were not his pastor for 20 years. This is childish reporting. You are pointing a finger at Mcain to get Obama off the hook. Please report on some real news.
how hypocritical is that.........i'm glad these things are now surfacing......too many racist ppl in the gov't and act like the were civil right activist leaders...........he voted against Dr. Martin Luther King birthday ....and now haggee is showing me why............it's funny how he kept on trying to tie Obama to the question...........we don't believe mccain...........i believe you share his view............you haven't been honest, you are a flip flopper........you are against the GI bill what makes me think you gona help me pay my student loan and help me get a compettive job in this economy..........all of your lobbyist are quiting because of foreign lien with dictators...........too many baggage with this guy ..........mccain.............never..............Obama yes i want him as my PRESIDENT
This posting isn't directed toward this particular article, but rather to remind the public that there are a lot of Republicans out there acting like HRC supporters, many of which are those who threaten to vote for McCain if Obama gets the election.
Nothing against HRC but the Republicans are VERY nervous about the prospect of Obama becoming the nominee because they suspect Obama will indeed win easily. .
You'll see a lot of postings saying that Obama cannot possibly win the presidency. Again, there are many REpublicans who want to play the fear card in hopes of manipulating your decision when voting for the Democratic nominee.
Obama supporters would do well to keep this in mind when posting inane comments directed toward authentic HRC supporters. Many of HRC's true supporters are creating the division.
Knowledge IS power.
Peace.
the truth is that McBush did not reject him when he talked about New orleans, about catholics, about Muslims. Now that he knows with this recent speech, it's going to cause a problem with juif community, he renouncing those pastors. We know where McBush stands.
I think it would have been more accurate to say that fundamentalist Islam is spiritual evil. But I do have major concerns that even in the so called mainstream Islamic community alot of hate is being promoted. Mosques even in our country tout how Islam will rule the world and Israel needs to be destroyed. It is something we need to keep close watch on.
So.... apparently Hagee's remarks about the Catholic church were acceptable, and his remarks about New Orleans deserving Katrina were okay too. Once it got to Hitler and the Jews, McCain had enough.
Or was it that the bad press was catching up.
Either way, it sure took McCain a long time to decide to back away from someone he pursued.
McCain Bushwacked Repbulicans are the most repulsive, racist, self righteous hipocrits this world has ever seen. I think you all need to get some self help! How you all can blog on here that McCains situation is not the same as Obama's is beyond comprehension and the media Republican bias is very obvious as well given the repeated beatings they gave Obama and this they wave off as no big deal. Why don't you just save the time and say I won't vote for a Black Man because I am a BACKWARDS REDNECK RACIST – at least that would be the truth instead of all the garbage that you are spewing on these blogs. Remember the world is watching to see what kind of Leader the US wants to be!!!!! THANK GOD you do not represent the majority of the country.
I don't find some of pastor Hagee's preaching offensive. The bible is very difficult to comprehend. Just read the book of Revelations. Is very creepy and in many ways reflects our lives.
Jesus was a Jew and it's written Jews to be persecuted just like Jesus was. The Holocaust was part of that prediction unfortunately.
God Bless America and all the Jews.
Hillary supporters, are we on the same team? Are you a democrat or a Hillacrat? Which one? Hillary and Obama are on the same team. To say that you will not vote for him due to your democratic person is not the winner, you are stating that you will not vote for a democrat? What is really going on?
Let's see now. Obama stays in the Wright church for 20 years. Has his kids baptized by Wright. Is married by Wright. Wright gives L. Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award. The Wright church sells Farrakhan speech recordings in their lobby. And Obama calls Wright his councilor, his mentor, his friend, his uncle.
How does this equate to Pastor Hagee?
The only thing worse than a racial biggot is a religeos loud mouth idiot who claims all other faiths are the path to the devil. Why does the media give any time at all to these phony rich preaching hustlers
who live very well from the donations of their equaly stupid flock!
WHY HAS CNN NOT DUG INTO THIS NUT'S SERMONS AND PICKED OUT SOME CHOICE WORDS AND THEN PUT THEM ON TV TO RUN 24/7 FOR A MONTH?
As a Roman Catholic I am insulted. Jesus did not preach hate, His command to us........... "LOVE ONE ANOTHER."
TO THOSE WHO WILL VOTE FOR MCBUSH:
Fine vote for whom you wish, BUT do not complain when our national debt bankrupts our nation! $10 TRILLION AND COUNTING, owed mostly to CHINA!
And you THINK Bush has made our country safer! HOW IS IT SAFE TO OWE CHINA TRILLIONS? When they call in the debt and we are on our knees.......... you can pat yourselves on the back for voting for another Republican!
And now we see McCain in desperation imitating what Obama did. Only Obama didn't wait to reject endorsesments by those who use hate rhetoric like Louis Farakhan.
Why did'nt the biased media pay attention to Mc cains pastors problems like theydid for Obama shame on them. Obama had a personal reletionship with his pastor though he never heard him make those statements, these things do happen you can no someone all your life and don't know that they hold certain believes.
Mc cain however knew about this pastors problems before he endorsed him, Mc cain only wanted to get the pastors evangelical votes so he never denounced him even when he made those statements that makes Mc cain a real hypocrite and a politician who will do anything to get elected. Shame on him.
Obama 08
I find it highly amusing to read that people will not vote for Obama due to lack of experience.
When I look at the current administration and all of the experience within, it appears that experience might not be all its knocked up to be. When I hear alleged democrats say they will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination it reminds me of the bathroom scene in the movie Trading Places when one brother says to another that they would never let a n****r run the family business. There are many out there who will never admit it is his race that will prevent them for voting for him. In today’s world it is a rare thing when someone actually qualified will go into public service. Mr. Obama could have made a fortune many times over by going into private industry, but instead chose to serve the public(and not the other way around mind you).
Sadly I believe that in the end he will have thrown his pearls before swine.
McCain was NOT a member of any of these Pastor/Preacher's churches. He did NOT sit through 22 years of Sunday sermons with any of these guys.
Obama on the other hand IS a member of a church which was lead by a Pastor that preached/preaches hate. He DID sit through 22 years of these sermons and even had the hate preacher baptize his kids and perform his marriage ceremony.
All of you people who say "oh poor pastor wrights comments were taken out of context", "oh he said all those we deserved 9/11 comments 8 years ago", blah blah blah, he is OBVIOUSLY an AMERICA HATER and a HATER of WHITE PEOPLE but that is ok I suppose.
Obama supports are obviously made up of FOLLOWERS, enjoy that Cool-Aid people.
I am a preacher and preach the Gospel according to preseident Obama. If two people present hope and fear....go for hope.
shame on you MCbush.....Hypocrite..remove time to remove the log in your own eyes.
obama 08
Why should I support Hillary Clinton when she is trying to force herself on the Obama ticket?
Why should I support Hillary Clinton when she is destroying the Democratic Party?
Why should I support Hillary Clinton when she lied when she signed the no campaign pledge for both Michigan and Florida and now trying to backpeddle because the anointed one dis not run her campaign efficiently?
Why should I stand out on a street corner yelling Hillary's name when she made $109M, let her pay some unemployed voters to yell her name?
Lastly, I don't want her on the Obama ticket and I don't like liars!
80% of the country things we are on the wrong track but 45% of people would still vote for McSame.
Maybe some people are born to harm themeselves.
Cheers.
The religious intolerance of Old Squinty Eyes (McCain) is now being seen for what it is. Conservative = intolerant. I know—I was one. Glad that is behind me.
McCain refuses to repudiate Hagee when he insults all Catholic Americans with his moronic views, but he dumps him wihtin seconds when he insults Jewish aAericans with more moronic opinions. So much for the "Straight Talk Express", we know who John panders most to now!
Vote for one who is not a fake chritsian. Obama
McNUTZ is out of his mind, who are you going to repudiate next?
Lets see.
Rejecting the endorsement of a crazy Reverend whom you have had little contact.
Or the spiritual guidance for 20 years by a racist who hates America and whom you only rejected out of political convenience.
Sounds equal to me.
It took me quite a while to figure out how Dr. Hagee's comments could in any way be controversial. The interpretation given about hunters and the hunted have been around Christian circles for several decades. I first encountered it personally back in the mid 70's. The fact that the Jews were "hunted" by the Nazi's is just as true as the statement that the holocaust DID indeed happen. The fact that the news media could possibly misconsture this is a sad commentary on how the media trying to sway the election. What will the media say next, that there is 'proof that the holocaust is a hoax'? I wouldn't be surprised. As far as Pastor Parsley's comment that Islam hates Christians...most people already know that he was referring to radical Islam. Why is the media so slow in catching on to this? The fact that John McCain distanced himself from these Godly men is a shame... oh well, the media has already elected Obama anyway.
CNN why you keep moderating my comments and never post them. Is it because they make too much since and not in line with your views. I thought this was a COUNTY OF FREE SPEECH. PUT THIS ON NOW!
How prepared is he to seek these pastors endorsement and not know their back ground. He knew months ago of these two pastor statements. Now that it's more on the news he has to reject their endorsement. How out of touch is he!
On another note.
Even with FL and MI Sen. Clinton will not receive all of the Delegates, which mean she still can not over take Obama. Sen. Clinton should have care about the little state when it matter. Now she wants to pretend she care. Give us a break and stop being so phooooony.
I don’t want to support a president who do not have a plan B in the event that plan A don’t work. But if Sen. Clinton manage to get the nominee I will vote for her, because I am a true democrat. My loyalty lies with the DEMOCRAT PARTY NOT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL. I have routed for the democrat nominee who ever they were for years whether I like them or not, which leads me to believe you who say because Sen. Clinton don’t get the nominee are not true democrats as simple as that and just plan crazy.
Obama to reach 2026 minus 1965 needs 61 more votes for the nominee.
Clinton to reach 2026 minus 1779 needs 247 more votes for the nominee.
Who do you think will get there first?
We have DEMOCRATS who say they won’t vote for OBAMA, but we have just as many REPUBLICANS who say they will. Just something to think about for you CLINTON SUPPORTS who won’t support OBAMA.
It sounds like an EVEN TRADE TO ME, except the cross over REPUBLICANS is getting the better part of the deal. Just my 2 cents or 1.
Now is the time to SHANK HANDS, KISS and make up to get ahead of the game.
Just my view as an under educated voter against the well educated voter.
Obama 08!
Revision to my original posting:
I inadvertently wrote: "Obama supporters would do well to keep this in mind when posting inane comments directed toward authentic HRC supporters. Many of HRC's true supporters are creating the division.
But I meant to write " Many of HRC's true supporters ARE NOT creating this divison.
My aplogies!
Peace
Some posters keep mentioning Obama's situation being worse than McCains which is not true. First, Obama did not seek out an endorsement from Rev. Wright. McCain did. Obama's relationship was non political. McCain's reason was politically calculated. That "my friends" is dangerous especially since Hagee believes that Iran must be attacked to start Armageddon.
On a side note, some of you keep saying that Rev. Wright is a racist which is not true. Furthermore, you act as if he said those statements everyday for 30+ years. That is ridiculous. I bet most of you who keep making that ridiculous claim didn't even listen to the entirety of the sermons that are considered controversial.
Sure, I keep hearing this is different from Rev. Wright. But nobody said anything when the GOP was using these guys to organize the party in the last two elections. This is indeed the exact same thing as the Rev. Wright debacle. These are preachers using the pulpit to sow hatred. No difference.
How could either Obama or McCain not know this is what these guys were saying. They both just didn't do anything about it while these preachers were useful to them.
And no I am not for Hillary. I just call 'em as I see 'em.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE TRUE AXIS OF EVIL.
IT COMPRISES OF:
1) THE RICH AND SELFISH
2) THE RELIGIOUS FANATICS
3) RACISTS AND BIGOTS
4) IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED
5) WAR MONGERS
6) ELITIST
7) SLANDERERS, FEAR MONGERS, AND RACIAL TERRORISTS
Oh yes, back in 2000 McCain said he would be too old to run in 2008.
But right wing hypocrisy is always unoticed by the "liberal" media.
All of this goes to show that religion has NO PLACE in politics. The fact that all of the candidates feel the need to prove which one of them gives the most lip service to believing in their invisible friends and that the American people, in general, think this is a good thing show what a downward spiral our country is truly in.
I think it's dumb that McCain caved into the wants of the media here. I don't think he should have rejected these endorsements. Unlike Obama, who used Rev. Wright as his "spiritual mentor" and taught him so much, McCain never attended Parsley's church or Hagee's church. Rejecting Hagee's endorsement might win a few Catholic votes, and rejecting Parsley's might win a few votes as well, but think about this. They didn't endorse McCain because he believes everything that they do. They endorsed him because he is the most pro-life candidate, and because they are conservatives. I mean, I'm sure a lot of the governors and senators who have endorsed candidates have said their share of dumb remarks. If you think about it, maybe McCain and Obama should each reject every endorsement ever given to them, since EVERYONE says something dumb at one point or another, whether it is a pastor, a celebrity, or a politician. To outwardly reject the endorsements of these 2 mega church pastors probably just cost McCain a huge portion of the evangelical vote, which he was already struggling to get. What was he thinking??
White female voter wrote:
"Exit polls in recent primaries indicate that there seems to be a correlation between religion and racism."
That's how you read them.
In general, Christian universalism seems to have the opposite effect. Witness (no pun intended) the Christian singer who recently lost his adoptive Chinese daughter, or Christian missionaries in third-world countries.
McCain did NOT reject this guy right away. In fact, he embraced this pastor's poisonous support when it suited him.
He waited until after he had the nomination in hand to do this.
Go Obama! (I cant get anything posted unless I praise him...)
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There's no longer room for anti-gay initiatives, either. This is supposed to be a free country (whether you like homosexuals or not, we are supposed to be treated equally under law).
As a gay man living in Iowa, I have to say I have a greater respect for Mr. McCain for being on Ellen Thursday. That was a risky move for a conservative.
I'm a Hillary supporter but I could vote for McCain. At least I know what he stands for.
Kudos!
This is all politics. McCain courted these preachers because he wanted the votes of their congregations not because he agrees with everything they say. Same goes for Obama. Obama wanted to anchor himself in the community and be a part of it. What better way than to join a church in the community. He doens't have to agree with everything is pastor says and like McCain, I don't believe he does. People say this is different because Obama sat there for 20 years- You don't know what Wright said for 20 years, there's three twenty second clips to judge a man's life. Wright has some crazy ideas, but there are a lot of people like Wright and Hagee out there who have served their communities and have many redeeming qualities. It means their less than perfect like everyone else. But their not running for president.
McCain denounced Hagee simply because of the Jews votes. Good to hear that McCain is in good health. However, I hope knows who Shiites are in Iraq without Senator Joseph L telling him.
Health wise no one should worry about Barack. This guy is a BOXER. This means he plays basketball. He bowls. He is remarkably energitic.
Actually, in a strange way, this might be a good thing.
Now, we're starting to have a serious dialog about religion. We start by hashing out all of our differences, and then we start to search for common ground.
Christians believe that Jesus died for their sins, while the Jews and Muslims don't.
There are obviously many other differences between the various denominations – Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist, etc.
But we all believe in two things:
1. God created us
2. God loves us, and he wants us to love each other.
Please, let's not forget this.
As a Democrat, I plead with whoever would vote for McCain if their candidate does not make it to not vote Republican. There will be at least one Supreme Court appointment which could very well nullify Roe vs Wade if McCain gets to make the appoinments.
We need a new direction, a Democratic direction. Not more of the McSame.
To ALL THE WAY TO DENVER:
We don't want you here. 75% voted for Obama in Colorado over Clinton.
It's interesting that McCain wants to reject the endorsement of the hate monger posing as a pastor named John Hagee but he sought out the endorsement for a year all the while knowing about his hate filled rants. McCain selectively "rejected" statements made by Hateful Hagee but never denounced the endorsement. McCain is not genuine and I suspect that his views line up more with Hateful Hagee than Obama's line up with Rev. Wright.
Mc"Bush", Obama. No room for either of these men to talk.
Both of them have a lot in common with their racist, hate filled pastors.
Of course they have denounced them and refused their endorsements........NOW that they have become a liability in their campaigns. If it were not for the fact they were seeking the presidency they would both still be worshipping, listenging to their sermons on racism and hatred, praising them, seekign counsel from them, etc.
Just another day in the world of politics.
Hagee and Limbaugh are having a cookout this weekend.
Took him long enough.
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
CNN WHY DON'T YOU BLOW THIS UP LIKE YOU DID REV. WRIGHT
McCain can reject these endorsements but it is very disturbing here also that such extremism supports his presidency...we should have no discussion about candidates pasors and focus on the real issues..McCain will have plenty of trouble justifying his "war presidency" and his unconscionable refusal to support the GI Bill
wow...hate the muslims, hate the jews...well who do you like besides christians?
McClown may not have sit in there church for 20 years, but he definitely sought out their endorcement. I doubt seriously that Wright spewn hatre for 20 years. Most of you rallying around the "GOD Da.... America" rhertoric probably never heard the entire content, but want to crucify the candidate because of the message his ex-pastor delivered. Yet, you don't see or at least want to deny the same for the ministers that McFlipped sought out who are nothing more than current day scribes, Pharisees and Hadaces. I encourage all of you to go back and listen to the Wright's sermons in it's entirety before condeming the man and the sermon. Then cast the 1st stone!!!
Kuilor2k May 23rd, 2008 10:06 am ET
Interestingly enough, the Obummer supporters showed uss all that they put Candidate above Party. And we (the Clinton and/or McCain supporters can show them that we put Country above Party or Candidate.
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LMAO! Nice try.
HEY CB!
NIne out of every 10 of my comments here are "awaiting moderation"!
CNN won't post this one either, but thought I'd take a shot. Either you see things from their point of view or are subjected to heavy editing.
Glad to see Freedom of Speech and fair and balanced, unbiased reporting still rules. Yeah, right!
I also think this a slap in the face of Christian leaders who instead of preaching to the whole nation and evn beyond national boundaries, have lost their bearings and credibility and are endorsing very corrupt politicians. The make Christianity look like an ideology and a subset of the GOP. Please so called Christian leaders, you seem to be behaving like the pharisees in Jesus' day. What did Jesus do when He came in the midst of a corrupt Roman empire? Go back and read your Bible change your ways and appeal to the entire nation. I particularly like those who have come up with the "evangelical manifesto". Please do not betray the Christian cause be politicizing Christianity. It is bigger than any party or nation. As a Christian my soul aches for what Christianity has become in America!
So, McCain got the help of these pastors and lobbiests to get the nomination of his party and now it's time to get rid of all of them because of fear of liabilities...
What an opportunist...Similar to what he did with his previous wife!
David O,
I couldn't have said it better myself.
McCain, Hillary and Obama are all politicians and will divest themselves of any entity that prevent them from becoming President of the United States. I don't condemn them for that. It is the smart way to run the race.
The difference lies in the inequity of the media. Excerpts from Wright's speech was played incessantly. Where are the excerpts from these individuals sermons? Why haven't they been played incessantly? Hillary's Bosnia misrepresentation was played often. If she showed emotion, that was repeated and repeated and decried by the media. In the interest of fair play these pastors' sermons should be viewed at least as often as the negative aspects of Hillary and Obama's campaign were allowed to be aired along with McCain's repudiation of them as well.
I am so sick and tired of political leaders selling out because of people votes! Be real!!!! if you do not agree with homosexuals marriage then stand by it. I am against GAy marriages and all the other immoral mess that is taking place in America and I can care less how you feel or how it rubs you the wrong way SIN is SIN! my goodness, WE need a leader that has a back bone!!!!!!!!
This is one of the best decision by John McCain. Now I can vote for John if sen. Clinton get the nomination or Obama picks sen. Clinton as running mate. Obama and John McCain both are good leaders.
RON LARSON:
Have you ever READ the Quran? Jesus is mentioned MORE than Muhammad is. And everytime a Muslim says Jesus's name, they say "may peace be upon him." You are ignorant.
Mccain is a liar and him and his two pastors are racist and he wanted to talk about Wright Mccain you are an Old Dirty Politican and do not deserve the right to Sit in the Oval Office
I won't be voting for him, but I will give him props for doing the right thing........but man, those aren't the only crazy ministers on the right. He could spend from now until the election denouncing crazy ministers that support the GOP.
ALL THE WAY TO DENVER
You need to get a life. Let me guess, you’re a woman who feel that it is Hillary turn to be president. How many mistakes did she make running her campaign? She doesn’t deserve the nomination.
I am a Hillary voter (voted in ny states primary for her) i think people that want to vote for McCain if hillary does not get a spot on the ticket is just plain dumb hillary never said anything about voteing for mccain
We need to remember the concept of separating church from state. Politicians ought not involve themselves with matters of the pulpit; pastors, preachers, priests, imans, rabbis ought not presume to involve themselves in politics, especially insofar as they attempt to influence their flocks. Their remarks - all of their remarks - ought to be disragarded.
Clinton is not going to win the nomination and that is fact. If you at that point choose to either not vote for Obama or you choose to vote for McCain and McCain wins please don't complain about how bad things are. YOU using your unlogical logic MADE the CHOICE.
These Pastors are NOT PREACHING HATE MESSAGES: What they are preaching is called TRUTH!!!!!! You would have hated Jesus Christ if you read what he was against. (HE SAID Repent or Perish) is that hate speak. The bottom line: Repent of your sins or burst hell wide open
As a condition of tax exemption under 501(c)3 rules; religious and other public benefit companies are not allowed to "agitate for political change."
Ergo, preachers like Hagee, and nonprofit organizations like Family Research Council are not supposed to publicly endorse any political candidate.
This is important. Corporations, legally defined as persons, should not participate in the political sphere and be tax exempt. If they wish to participate in the political arena, they should pay taxes like other corporations and people.
Secondly, our traditional separation of church and state demands such restraint on religious figures and institutions. Our constitution suggests politicians should make no law respective of any religion – and with good cause. The history of religious governments is not a particularly "progressive" one. Take for example the Spanish Inquisition. One has only to look at recent history in the Muslim world to see how religion and government should not mix.
Why does no one in media talk about this???
Drop them like they're hot!!!!!!
UMMMM... I HONESTLY DON'T THINK THIS REALLY MATTERS. IT'S NOT LIKE McBUSH WAS GOING TO WIN ANYWAYS!!!
ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD GET AS MUCH EQUAL COVERAGE AS THE OBAMA AND WRIGHT SITUATION B/C McBUSH FOUGHT AGGRESIVELY FOR THEIR ENDORSMENTS. THE FACT THAT HE SAYS THAT HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH THEM AND NOW IS DENOUNCING THEM, SIMPLY MEANS THAT HE DIDN'T DO HIS RESEARCH ON THEM B4 HE SEEKED THEIR ENDORSMENTS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE
People wake up!!!! The media has you guys literally getting upset over this nonsense. First of all, how a person worhsips and who they talk to for spiritual advise has nothing to do with politics. So what Barack was a member of Rev. Wrights church, just becasue he was a member doesn't mean that he attended church on a regular.. and so what McCain got the endorsement from the 2 pastors Haggee and Parsley... who cares!!!!None of the candidates can control what people say and we need to stop holding them accountabe for what these pastors are saying. Whether it be Obama or McCain, there are so many other issues that need to be discussed and I can't believe that we are spending time on these blogs talking about things that are of no substance. In the end the media has won!!!! Turn your focus to the candidate that you support and let that be that. If you are a true republican then this situation with McCain will no matter and likewise if your a DEMO. GET OVER IT AND LET"S MOVE ON TO NOV.
I'm so glad that God is the judge and not some of you otherwise all of us would have been dead long time ago!!!! Besides I guess everyone on this blog is perfect and without flaw?????
I like what Darth had to say
"80% of the country things we are on the wrong track but 45% of people would still vote for McSame.
Maybe some people are born to harm themeselves.
"
Thats sad. we complain but some fools are willing to voce for Mcsame
I'm an Obama supporter, and I must say I was a bit disconcerted about Barack's handling of the Wright controversy. I'm glad he got it all right in the end, but there are lingering concerns.
McCain's situation with these two fundamentalist freaks is a bit different that Obama's. McCain never went to church on a regular basis at either of these joker's churches. He showed them some friendship, which is concerning, but generally he's not had a whole lot to do with them. I don't think he has near the problem Barack has with his situation.
I believe that McCain rejecting the endorsement of these two boneheads is an indication that the Republicans are turning away from their evangelical base very gradually. The American people are tired of radicalism from the left and the right and are looking for a more centered government that will stop spouting rhetoric and get to work. The Republicans realize this, and realize that if they stay aligned with their evangelicals, they'll lose a large percentage of the more moderate sectors of the population. McCain's rejection of these two endorsements is the first sign of that process beginning.
Still, the Republicans will, if the stars align, lose this election. They've had eight years, and have generally ignored the will of the people. They may be squirming now, but it's too late. It's time for a change.
David, O. That post summarizes the narrow mindedness that has allowed the far left of the Democratic party to screw things up in the last two presidential elections. 2000, 2004 and ere we go again in 2008.
Moderates need to take back the Democratic party and wrest it from the rich elitist ultra liberals in New York and California who hold the puppet strings of this party before they single handedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again.
Good golly, just how blinded are the Obamabots? There is a real difference between attending a church for 20 years with a pastor who preaches hate and being "endorsed" by one. Duh.
You know what? Obama is Peter Pan in a stage musical production. No, really! He goes out and oh-so-enthusiastically gets the audience going by telling them if only they'd just clap their hands and *believe* – then everything will be all right! And it scares me how many people are buying into it! America is not a poisoned fairy and it won't recover from all its woes just because we all start swaying to the beat and chanting that we believe in change. We need a leader who can do so much more than deliver prepared speeches well, and Obama has done exactly nothing to show he's the one who can be the right man for the job, and a heckuva lot to prove he isn't.
Obama 08 – The Sheeple's Choice!
McCain has pastor problems too... Is any of this surprising??? Religions are built on division, hate and violence. The world would be much better off without organized religions.
He is running from who he is. Let's see he chases lobbisyt skirts, 100 more years in Iraq and tax cut for the wealthy. McBush has the worst qualities of the past two presidents we cand do without.
Derek, you are so naive to understand the difference. Give it up.
To Andy J New York,
Get your head out of your butt and try to use the brain that God gave you. Right wing nut case.
There is no comparision between Reverend Wright and the Republican Pastorate of hatemongers, racists, and demogogues, who have dominated the party and its political agenda over the last eight years or more.
What is it with politicians and pastors; they seem to be trying so hard for the Christian right vote that they will just about take any pastor's endorsement. Then these guys are not what they seem and they have to run from them. It is a shame they don't run from the lobbyst with the same zeal but money talks louder than faith I suppose. At least this guy was white so that should equal out the race thing.
Amen brother.
For people who think this is McCain's Pastor Wright think again. McCain did not attend this church for 20 years to hear the things he has said. Also, this man was not his spiritual adviser nor did he marry McCain or have a major influence on his life. Ahh, Obama supporters spin this any which way you like..
I am a Hillary supporter voting for her in Nov. whether or no she is on the ballott!
McCain wants to be the president of tommorrow , how sure are we that you will not die in office?? Your health does not not look good so far, is questionable. Just remember Americans dont want to waste their vote to get your VP as President. You Attack on Obama on wanting unconditionally meet with our enemies, Imagine you went to you doctor , what does he do first before he treats you ? He first conducts a diagnosis of what may be the problems and that is what Obama is willing to do with our enemies. So McCain if you willing to treat your Flu taking Tums you welcomed to do so . We need change for tommorrow.
Hello David O:
We are all Americans. I love Republicans as much as I love Democrats.
Our country would look much larger and brighter when you can divide her into more than just two groups as much as combine all into one group called Americans.
Give it a try! You will probably feel a lot better if you become Independent.
My best wishes!
I'm breathlessly waiting for Rush Limbaugh to endorse McCain – I understand Uncle Ditto and Cindy McCain share their love of prescription drugs! Just waiting for that Viagra endorsement cause you know that old guys need love, too.
Have no fear, fear-mongers! John McCain will still lose this election even with the quivering-rapture-eyed support of the Hagee holy-rollers. Now why don't you go and do something useful, like removing those enormous motes from thine eyes.....OR JOIN THE ARMY! I hear its real safe in Iraq now ya'll.
"All the Way to Denver" – Oh please
RHINO:
I really don't understand those idiots who want more of Bush through McCain, higher gas & food prices, a prolonged war etc.
For all of you still talking Obama and McCain's pastors, some of your rhetoric is just as disgusting as their pastors.
Amazing really, how the media is so under the firm grip of the Republican party. If only half the country would open their eyes and say no more to this robotic manipulation.
I am amazed how ignorant and uneducated people are nowadays. Islam is a religion practiced by all sort of people and does not teach killing people. Its the people that kill in the name of islam that need to be condemned not the religion. Why are these GOP idiots emphasizing Obama's middle name. Another scare tactic to retain the white house. WAKE UP AMERICA>
McCain's problem is that at the same time that he rejects them he is criticizing Barack for going to Wright's church.
The mistake in doing that is he is now criticizing the constituents of Hagee and Parsley. They have sat in that church for many years listening to this talk, they married them and baptized their children. Why do some of you not see the nonscence in this.
He is turning the actions of preachers into a political game to use against Obama when he is surrounded by supporters who are equal to Wright and Obama. That is the problem and the contridiction to his rejection. Do you really think that he should be saying to all of Hagee and Parsley's constituents that there is something wrong with them because they went to church but please vote for me. The answer should have been hateful statements like these have no place in church and I hope that anyone preaching hate in church should reconcider their message.
McCain did not sit in any of these pastors churches for 20+ years!
Pastor Rod Parsley,is not John McCain but just another crazy.
Hillary will be the VP, I'm sure of it now, so everybody just relax.
McCain is done.
This is another case of poor judgement, where Sen. McCain thought like he did with Iraq war that it would be a "Slam Dunk", seeking the endorsement of those Pastors for about 365 days and finally got it. Now that the truth caught up with him, he is saying that he never stayed in their church for 20 years. Good try! How about the 113 lobbyists? Talk about "change agent", that wants to fool the voters! The other day you and you friend Sen. Leiberman were busy trying to fool the Jewish community and Israel with your pandering and smearing stuff with Hamas, now they see it clearly what you both are worth. Mear Opportunist!
I Cannot believe the NY governor, who is blind, black and an Obama
supporter has the nerve to say Hillary Clinton is desperate.
He should have been thrown out when he sais he was a drug
user and had committed adultry.
What a joke.
Any chance for an Obama baby in the White House? That would be wonderful after so many years.
Obama 08
All I know is this better be on the news for a long time because he sought after these guys endorsements. He sold his soul to be the nominee knowing theses guys are very controversal
There is zero comparison between McCain's situation and the Reverend Wright – apples and oranges -and Wright is the bad apple.
Several times I have challenged everyone on this website to point out one racist statement either Obama or Rev Wright has said. JUST ONE!!!!
I have yet to get a response.
That's the new thing in America. Some ignorant whites are constantly complaining about racism everytime someone black says something they don't agree with. The irony is, they're only taking offense because the person who's saying it is black.
Talk about hypocrisy. I guess black people still aren't allowed to have an opinon that differs from the status quo.
mccains pastor problems don't even compare to obama's. obama chose to stay at that hate church for over 2 decades, and donated over $20.000.00 . obama has a problem with jews, and catholics. the ideology of his church is scary. jewish people have every right to doubt his loyalty to israel, considering he has made palestine sympathetic comments in the past.
Hillary supporters posting on cnn are absolute trolls. They truly are.
They spew nothing but hate – hate hate hate hate hate – about anything and everything obama does or says.
They hate the man for no good reason, only to hate. So I say to these trolls, please vote for mccain. You deserve nothing less than for history to judge you for the hateful imbeciles that you are. Your choice for anything NOT obama only further confirms my position that obama is absolutely the right choice.
And I have no doubt this hate stems from race. I would never, never chose to support someone, anyone, that would attract such a crowd of spiteful, incessant hate mongers and closet racists.
Such a pathetic crowd of subhuman, detestable people you show yourselves to be. Someday we will have a woman president, but Hillary absolutely does NOT deserve it judging by the crowd who is vying for her.
You know this is rediculious. McCain may not have been a member of Pastor Hagee or Parsley's church for 20 years, but he did seek out their support. The stand that Pastor Hagee and Parsley espouse is not anything new or revelational as "new" or "recently". McCain has the resources to have veted these individuals and made a decision that their stance would be controversal. This shows that he seeks people only for political reasons and when called upon by reports to answer the question or "How can you be the president for everyone"? and seek the support of pastors who have said these things about Jews, Catholics, people from New Orleans, etc. then you turn tail and run. If I were an evangelical Republican, he would have just showed that he is luke warm. You sought these men out, they did not seek him out. Sometimes you get what you ask for. What does this say about his decision making principles or being nieve.
And.... CNN IS WRONG IF THIS DOES NOT GIVE THIS THE AIR TIME THAT WAS ALLOTED FOR WRIGHT.
Please!!! do not show the under surface racism by showing that this should be swept under the rug.
OBAMA 08.
I find it hilarious given all this preacher talk the amount of people in West Virginia and Kentuck (and to some extent all across the country) who insist they wouldn't vote for Obama because he is a Muslim. That is ignorance in its saddest form. McCain isn't as bad as he is coming off nowadays, but he's got bad people telling him that he needs to be something other than he actually is and has been. That flip flopping will be his downfall.
well, my posts never make it but here's hoping...
The fact is this story has been around for a while. I was talking about this four months ago and you tools are just now hearing about it and quickly dismissing it as irrelevant.
This is huge. Some of you keep crying and making excuses that this doesn't compare to the rev. wright situation. I laugh at the thought of your existence if you don't see the similarities. Are you telling me that hate speech against whites ranks higher on your insult list than, say, hate speech against homosexuals, catholics? If you answered yes to that question then you don't even deserve to engage in this dialogue because you are already too blinded by bias.
This was a very clever move on McCain's part. First of all, the media wasn't blasting him on this issue as they did Obama and by doing this he effectively took the attention away from the problems within his campaign crew as well as re-inviting the preacher thing to the light. Now we'll have more talk on Rev. Wright and an opening for the republican machine to attack Obama on that subject. Devilish, underhanded, but clever none the less.
Look folks, this is getting out of hand. Yes Rev. Wright was Obama's preacher for 20 years. Does that mean he has to think the same way Wright thinks? If that's the case, every person that follows him must think the same way. Are you prepared to say that? I don't call what's happening with racist. I just call it ignorance. Pure ignorance which is the worst thing we can have right now in this country.
Actually, in my view, this story misses the mark entirely.
McCain's situation involves "a" pastor. This is readily distinguishable from Obama's very real problem: Obama's situation involves HIS pastor of 20 years. And Obama's lack of credibility in the way that he chose to handle this further exacerbates his problem. Period.
Hillary '08
McCain '08
Well, let's see. First Obama says he cannot disown the Rev. Wright anymore than he can disown his white grandmother; then when he sees which way the political winds are blowing he decides to disown him.
Obama is a slick politician who is going to disappoint a lot of people down the road. Forget what he says, look at what he does:
1. Puts the American flag lapel pin on after he's criticized,
2. Puts on a blue shirt with no tie when he speaks to blue collar workers,
3. Tells Jews in Florida that he won't negotiate with terrorists but can't wait to sit down with Ahmadinejab.
4. Ignores the fact that over 400 people have been gunned down in Chicago this year which is his own backyard. Never speaks out about this and would never think of testing his negotiating skills on Chicago's gang leaders. And most of these 400 people are black-so what exactly is it that he's doing for them or anybody.
This is a guy with a slick vocabulary who does nothing. He voted "present" over 100 times; not exactly a man of conviction.
The only answer to this fraud is to get Hillary to run as an Independent.
Hillary08' Nobama.
"ALL THE WAY TO DENVER May 23rd, 2008 10:59 am ET
For all you race baiters who claim that Hillary supporters are racists.
1. Fact one: If I were racist, I wouldn't have registered as a Democrat.
2. Fact two: I voted against the white half of Obama.
Thanks,
Hillary 08 or McCain if necessary!"
What could you possibly see in McCain? He's a wishy washy flip flopper, and he has no idea how to fix this broken economy so he would rather continue down GWB's crooked path.
and could you clarify as to why WE are the race baiters? I think you're a very confused individual.
Wow, its funny how cnn reports only negative McCain stories. Ralph, you dont have to seek an endorsement when you sat in front of that racist biggot for twenty years(so-called Rev, Wright).
Kudos to Senator McCain He is NOT going to bow to the radical right conservatives. This give me great hope that as President he will be truthful and fair. If my candidate Hillary Clinton is not in the race I will vote for Senator McCain as he can be trusted, and he has the experience to lead us in these troubled times. We do not need a youngster with absolutely no national or international experience.
what's the difference between 1 year or 10 years or 20 years, If Obama has been blamed by the racist american and the media so much, why not John McCain, his pastor is also a racist and doesno't share the american values, McCain is a typical politician, foreign policy, he even doesn't know the difference between Iran and Iraq and Afganistan, and I think he's too old to be President, He's older than my dad. even at his 70s people can be so power hungry and warmongering. Shame on you McCain for invading Iraq and supporting failed Bush policy.
McCain may be in good health, but the country is on life support. We need someone who will give the country a good bill of health. That person is Barack Obama.
Obama 08
He went after these endorsement. He went after these endorsements! And now that this came out he's rejecting them??? That's a bunch BS.
I thought McSame was going to run a clean campaign
first thing he does is get a dirty Jab in about Senator Obama
Senator Obama took the the high road and said MCsame is not responsible for what comes out of anothers mouth ..pastor Hagee
I have went to the same church for 30 years but I dont live by my pastors ideals I listen to and live by my OWN..Any intelligent person could figure that out
thats why the republicans are going down
Americans are sick of the rovian playbook politics!!!
Obama is intelligent and trustworthy
He is quite capable of making sound judgements
thats whats important!!!!
Obama 08
McCain didn't even bother to show up to vote on the Webb/Hagel GI bill, and he supports the troops?
As a former Devil Dog I say this with all humility,
GO TO HELL McCAIN
by the way both Hillary and Barrack voted FOR the GI bill.
Good idea McCain why not take endorsement from someone who's the ideals and views you don't known! This Guys is desperate, good thing he is going to lose anyway!
OBAMA 08
Some of you are saying that Hagee and Parsley are not in league with Rev. Wright? It is no different... I guess it depends on who you think it is ok to hate. McCain sought the endorsement of these two hateful beings because he thought it would make him apealing to the religious right. Unfortunately, someone had to tell him what they stand for and that he should separate himself from them to save voters from other demographics. Bonehead move for a guy who wants to be president of the USA. It's all a game.
THERE ARE GREAT REASONS FOR THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
My experiences tell me that these preachers sermons are ultimately designed to scare people into getting "saved". Sometimes it works, sometimes it puts people off.
Armageddon has always been a subject of interest to many Christians/Muslims. The interpretations are varied and many among the faithful. It's alright to warn the lost but ultimately, the Love Of Christ Jesus brings people to repentance and salvation.
So what has politics have to do with this? Nothing, unless you're an American running for the office of president. It's time to get on with the show and elect a new president on the issues that are facing the entire world and our country.
Peace be unto you, and Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.
I think all of this is just a distraction from the issues that we are facing. McCain is burning bridges that he will not be able to rebuild. He lost my vote months ago. Obama NEVER had my vote and NEVER will. Then there is Clinton. I will more than likely vote for her, although I think we are in serious trouble regardless of who gets in office.
Congratulation to my vietnam war hero! Thank you very much for our freedom that your fought for us. Every time I saw your name on the news , I always thinking about my older brother who never a chance to live in a full life. My older brother was a commander of a small Airforce Fighter Jet Squadron of American CIA secret war Army in Laos. I remembered very well that he was shot down twice like you but he was never captured by the enemies. His last mission was ordered by former General Vang Pao and CIA agent in august 1972 to destroy the enemy tanks in Plain of the Jars (the most bombed place on Earth).In this mission , he ordered 3 fighter jets to go along with him. When they got to the destination , he was the first to shoot the missile and dropped the bombs. After dropping the bomb , his jet was hit by enemy surface to air missile and exploded on the the sky.
He died instanly and his body was recovered in three days by fighting into the enemy territory. Our family secret most constant fear for his life for the last 4 years came to end and became the darkest day of our life. He left behind a Vietnam war widow mother , a wife with 4 little kids , a younger brother who was sent to study in Hawaii by him , 3 younger brothers and 4 younger sisters. Our future , our dream , our income , our father figure and role model , my belove son , my dearest hunsband , our daddy disappeared all together in one time. Because his sacrifice for the country and the family , we will never let his dream
die with him so we live on. Finally , we came to USA in 1975 and became citizen of this country .Thank you very much for your service for this nation in this Memorail day. I am a democrat and vote for Hillary But I will vote for you If she lose the nominee. I never trust racist Obama.
I hope the DNC doesnt force HRC on us. Her crazed self is scary.
God Bless AMERICA.
will someone fix this website so it displays the comments correctly!
There is no comparison to this endorsement from a preacher whose church McCain does not attend than to the one with Rev. Wright whose church Obama continues to attend.
A comotose McCain would still be a better choice for America than a
young energetic American hater named Obama.
We will not surrender to the Islamic Jihadist.
Well, Well, Well.
This is finally getting some over due press time. Everyone knew about McSame's controversial pastors who endorsed him and the ones he sought out to endorse him. What Rev Wright said was (ridiculous and foolish) but nothing compared to what these lunatics have said. Lets see how long the media will talk about this....
Andy J, NY May 23rd, 2008 10:13 am ET
Not even close to Obama and Wright… not even close.
I say that because i know you liberal nut-bags are going to go off and cry racism. Open your eyes, and maybe use your brains and some reasoning skills.
NOT EVEN CLOSE to the Obama and Rev. Wright situation.
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Project much?
Go back to kindergarten and re-take the day where we learned not to call other people names. And maybe re-do the rest of school too. You apparently weren't paying much attention.
Some of you people on this blog don't even know what the hell you are talking about. You must be plants for McCain's – 527's or republicans.
Your facts are not correct on Obama. – Rev.Wright is gone, Hamas is a joke – that McCain just keeps saying that, and No, Hillary stole all her issues from Obama and Edwards which she is running on. If you had listen to her since the start you would know this!
These two clowns are the smallest skeletons in McCane's closet.
would Rev M Huckabee remarks at the NRA in Louisville Ky be the reason way Mccain didn't have Huckabee on his list of VP want to be this week end!!!!
well it's what i think!!!
well while Mccain is kicking his REVs. out he may as well get REV Huckabeee too!!!
I am getting kinda of tired having to walk around on egg shells when it comes to HRC supporters. Geeez, lighten up!
What did JM say about Hamas favoring BO?
"You can read a candidate by who supports him!?"
If that is 'straight talk'? then John cannot remove the tar of these preachers. Doesn't he still have a 3rd one to denouce?
Hypocracy
Flip flopper
Political expediency
McBush is not a straight talker
He has lost his bearings
He has joined hands with people who slurred him by accusing him of having an illegitimate black love child (a child he adopted from Bangladesh)
He is not worthy
Rev. Wright is one of the greatest orators in history. White folks have tried to demonize him, but it hasn't worked. Preach on brotha!
I thought McSame was going to run a clean campaign
first thing he does is get a dirty Jab in about Senator Obama
Senator Obama took the the high road and said MCsame is not responsible for what comes out of anothers mouth ..pastor Hagee
I have went to the same church for 30 years but I dont live by my pastors ideals I listen to and live by my OWN..Any intelligent person could figure that out.We as human beings live by whats in our own hearts and soul not what someone dictates to us!
thats why the republicans are going down
Americans are sick of the rovian playbook politics!!!
Obama is intelligent and trustworthy
He is quite capable of making sound judgements
thats whats important!!!!
Obama 08
This just shows that there are a lot of crazy pastor's out there who say things that most people don't agree with. That doesn't mean that they are all around bad people or that everyone who sits in the pews believes them. Should we make John and Barack denounce and reject everyone who goes to one of these churches?!?!
Get over it, people have different beliefs and they are not all pretty, but they are entitled to have those beleifs. This is why we need separation of church an d state.
McBush is only doing this so he can use the Wright pastor mess against Obama and scream that he is rebuking Pastors that say things that are "extremests" beliefs....I don't agree with what Rev. Wright said or how Obama handled it but I will still support Obama because the GOP is full of extremests & hypocrites.....
To ALL THE WAY TO DENVER: Picking a president based on type of genitals sends a wrong message to your nieces.
Perhaps if you had mentioned ONE positive thing about this Dracula of American Politics, I would have forgiven your sexist approach to politics.
p.s.: Hillary Clinton is going NO WHERE. If she doesn't quit after June 3, I doubt if she could even hold to her Senate seat.
I/m sorry but the people who say that wright and hagee and parsely are different situations are dillusional. people keep screaming " well obama known him for 20 yrs", and " Hagee and Parsly was not McCain's spiritual advisor", and this and that yadda, yadda, yadda. Oh shut up. MCcain complimented these people, courted their endorsement for political reasons. the media played CLIPS of what Wright had quoted from other PEOPLE, If people were smart and dug deeper into what Wright was saying then they wouldn't post ignorant comments McCain just isn't getting the media frenzy like Obama did just because half of America is ignorant to alot of things. McCain will blow over b/c he's not Obama, nor half white and black, or sincere, nor a threat to some ignorant folks.
Obama stand Strong
Kuilor2k
You posts are probably some of the most ridiculous yet on CNN. Are you just a dumb person or species of some unknown plant life somewhere?
No offence to all the intelligent plant life we know about.
People keep giving the impression that Obama was sitting in a pew for 20 years, and every Sunday hearing the comments they heard on CNN over and over again.
Obama is a man of tremendous intelligence and sincerity. McCain makes it clear that he believes that Obama does not share Rev. Wright's incendiary political views. Do people really believe that Obama thinks like Rev. Wright? Do they really believe that what we heard on YouTube was the content of every sermon, every Sunday? Would Obama find Jesus and stay in those pews if it was just the incendiary stuff? I think its clear that there were other things happening and the the kinds of things we've heard about Wright were rare outbursts.
I have a good friend who, once you get to know him, you find is very anti-semitic. It's a very real flaw, but a blemish on an otherwise wonderful person.
People are not the sum of their most outrageous beliefs. We see only the bigotry and hate in Rev. Wright because that's the only thing that's newsworthy. That doesn't mean that it's the only thing that was there - or even the most important thing. It also doesn't mean that Obama was listening to twenty years worth of hate.
Wow! 2 pastors, not just one! McCain actively sought their endorsement, and is now rejecting them only b/c their statements went public (even though he knew about them prior). To all those who say you won't vote for Obama just b/c of Wright, yet will vote for McCain, you're hypocrits (and possibly racists)!
And I don't even want to hear "McCain didn't sit in his church for 20 years"...give me a break! Who's to say what that man preached about in EVERY sermon for 20 years? You saw 30 seconds of 2 different sermons! Not to mention, it was only 1 phrase from each that's drawing heat, "America's chickens are coming home to roost (we deserved what we got on 9-1-1)" and "Hillary has a better chance of being elected than Barack b/c she's white." Several people have admitted that they won't vote for an African-American/Mixed Race candidate, so I would say at least the latter statement was correct. I certainly don't agree with most things Wright said, but I am wise enough to see that the situations are very similar.
Democrat '08
ALL THE WAY TO DENVER: What are you talking about? The thing that has carried Obama thus far has been his ability to bring out first time voters and moderate Republicans (like myself). Calling Obama an extreme liberal makes zero sense in regard to the stance he has taken on any issue.
I find it incredibly ironic that this is a year where most fiscal conservatives (like myself), whom could monetarily afford four more years of Bush, are willing to open up our check books for what we know will amount to higher taxes (a Dem in the White House). Yet, we still have blue collar individuals whom need help, and need it badly, voting for "experience" and a conservative agenda.
Remember that when you get laid off some time in the Summer of 09.
Change in 2008!
This is so sad. We are supposed to be the greatest county in the world and the most tolerant.... at least that's what our forefathers envisioned. For us to blame 'a' religion for individual fanatics who hurt innocents in the name of a religion is not right. Every religion, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and all others teach a way of life that leads to peace. Religion does not teach wisdom. It is the individuals who have to gain that by learning the good from a religion, whichever one he/she belongs to. And for those who lack it, whether it be someone who carries an action that hurts innocents, or be it those who blame a religion for people who carry those actions, will never have achieved the level of wisdom that each religion teaches us to achieve. Very sad.
Wow! 2 pastors, not just one! McCain actively sought their endorsement, and is now rejecting them only b/c their statements went public (even though he knew about them prior). To all those who say you won't vote for Obama just b/c of Wright, yet will vote for McCain, you're hypocrits (and possibly racists)!
And I don't even want to hear "McCain didn't sit in his church for 20 years"…give me a break! Who's to say what that man preached about in EVERY sermon for 20 years? You saw 30 seconds of 2 different sermons! Not to mention, it was only 1 phrase from each that's drawing heat, "America's chickens are coming home to roost (we deserved what we got on 9-1-1)" and "Hillary has a better chance of being elected than Barack b/c she's white." Several people have admitted that they won't vote for an African-American/Mixed Race candidate, so I would say at least the latter statement was correct. I certainly don't agree with most things Wright said, but I am wise enough to see that the situations are very similar.
Democrat '08
Reading through these comments really shows off how stupid and uninformed the American populace is. Maybe we need a dictator to keep the idiots in line.
Sorry gramps...too little too late. Maybe you should have vetted these folks a little before you SOUGHT OUT their endorsements. McCains campaign is a mess – is that how he'd run the country if elected?
Karen from Texas May 23rd, 2008 11:28 am ET
Hillary supporters, are we on the same team? Are you a democrat or a Hillacrat? Which one? Hillary and Obama are on the same team. To say that you will not vote for him due to your democratic person is not the winner, you are stating that you will not vote for a democrat? What is really going on?
.. Karen we want an elected president by the people,and not a king crowned by the media.
McCain believes "there is no place for that kind of dialogue in America"? His senility must be kicking in even harder. This country was built on the freedom of speech and free exchange of ideas, even crazy ones like this newest right-wing pastor, Hagee and Wright. This country is not about blind submission; it's about open discourse. What's with him?
People keep giving the impression that Obama was sitting in a pew for 20 years, and every Sunday hearing the comments they heard on CNN.
Obama is a man of tremendous intelligence and sincerity. McCain makes it clear that he believes that Obama does not share Rev. Wright's incendiary political views. Do people really believe that Obama thinks like Rev. Wright? Do they really believe that what we heard on YouTube was the content of every sermon, every Sunday? Would Obama find Jesus and stay in those pews if it was just the incendiary stuff? I think its clear that there were other things happening and the the kinds of things we've heard about Wright were rare outbursts.
I have a good friend who, once you get to know him, you find is very anti-semitic. It's a very real flaw, but a blemish on an otherwise wonderful person.
People are not the sum of their most outrageous beliefs. We see only the bigotry and hate in Rev. Wright because that's the only thing that's newsworthy. That doesn't mean that it's the only thing that was there - or even the most important thing. It also doesn't mean that Obama was listening to twenty years worth of hate.