(CNN) – Sen. Barack Obama pocketed two more of his party’s superdelegates Friday.
California congressmen Jim Costa and Dennis Cardoza are endorsing the Illinois senator, according to a statement released by his campaign.
“While I continue to greatly respect and admire Senator Clinton and feel she has made history with her campaign, I believe that Senator Obama will inevitably be our party’s nominee for President,” Cardoza, who had previously supported Sen. Hillary Clinton, said in the statement.
Cardoza also waded into the controversy over seating the Florida and Michigan delegations at the Democratic convention. “I will not support changing the rules in the fourth quarter of this contest through some convoluted DNC rules committee process. Yet, we must find a resolution” to the situation with Florida and Michigan, Cardoza said. “I believe we need to avoid this potentially divisive situation by uniting behind one nominee and bringing the party together immediately,” he added.
Costa said electability had helped drive his decision. “In my opinion, it is clear that Senator Obama will be the strongest presidential nominee for the Democratic Party,” Costa said in the statement released by the campaign.
Obama leads the delegate race with a total of 1,967 total delegates including 309 superdelegates, according to CNN’s latest tally. Clinton has 1,779 total delegates, including 279 superdelegates. The number of delegates necessary to claim the Democratic nomination is currently 2,026 but that number may change once the Democratic National Committee decides how to resolve the situation regarding the Florida and Michigan delegations.
The DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee is set to meet on May 31 and hear appeals from both states that were stripped of all their delegates to the convention because they held their primaries in violation of party rules.
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From FactCheck.org, for Clinton supporters:
Florida and Michigan scoffed at Democratic and GOP rules this year that called for the states to hold their primaries on Feb. 5 or later. Voters instead went to the polls in January. As a result, the Democratic National Committee followed through on its threat to take away both states’ delegates to the national convention. The GOP banned half of the states’ delegates from its convention.
Both Clinton and Obama pledged not to campaign in those states, and Obama’s name was not on the ballot in Michigan. But, once the race became an oh-so-tight contest, Clinton – who won both the Florida and Michigan contests – called for the delegates from the two states to be seated at the convention. The Clinton campaign also backed plans to have the two states hold their primaries, or some form of voting, again. (Note: Super Tuesday was on Feb 5. She announced this on Feb 22)
Go to FactCheck.org for more *accurate* information
Now if you can only get the rest of Clinton's supporters to understand that.
Thank you for your wise words and decision. It's time to unite behind one candidate – Obama!
Thank you, keep them coming then maybe she will realize it's over.
nuff said
Way to Go!! Go Go Sen. Obama....
Is it just me or is CNN completely backing and supporting Obama? Every article is reporting he is or has already won. He hasnt. And I hope he doesnt. it would be a mess. Just say No-bama. If this isnt printed, my question will be answered.
Guess what?
The Oracle just told me that he is The One.
YES WE CAN
Go Barak and Michelle!
I couldn't of said it better myself.
YOU JUST CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES IN THE 4TH QUARTER !!!
WISE MEN MAKE WISE MOVES BASED ON GOOD JUDGEMENT.
GOD BLESS BOTH CONGRESS MEN.
Reject the sexist vote Obama! Or will that cut too much into your base?
Another one bites the dust.
I really wish more of the superdelegates would make a decision so that Clinton's quest to change the rules would be negated and we can all just concentrate on November.
Good move. It is time to unite.
wellcome home.
At the end, we are all Democrats, or at least we agree with the issues. Time to come together. If we go to the convention, we lose. 4 more years of a Bush Economy. 4 more years of war. 4 more years of brave soldiers dying in the desert. In all honesty, can anyone who opposes this war have a hand in the bloodshed by not voting for a Democrat? There can be some anger, but I doubt that most of the people who are saying its their candidate or no one is really such a monster to vote (or not vote) and throw our soldiers back into this bloody mess for 4 more years.
Congrats, Obama.
Hope the SDs come around.
It is time to push Hillary out as she seems to hang in there with the sole intention of a possible VP spot or destroy Obama candidacy so she "may" run in 2012.
It is time for SDs to thwart the nefarious activities of Clintons
I completely agree with you on MI and FL. Welcome aboard sirs.
DNC Rules were not followed pursuant to the Voters Rights Acty and Florida Federal Lawsuite filed May 22, 2008.
The news media has not told the truth.
Get your stories straight.
According to DNC Rules:
Florida –
Obama loses all delegatse because of provable campaigning by appearance in 2007 & by tv 2008.
Clinton keeps all her delegates.
Good choice!
Just a few days before this is settle. May 31 should be the end. Of course that means it won't be.
We're almost there It won't be much longer!
Good, another voice of reason. Everyone knows it is over for Hillary, except for Hillary and her femi-nazis. She is really destroying her legacy now, and looking ridiculous.
If the issue of Rev. Hagee and Rev Parsley endorsing McCain is not a concern, then the issue of Hamas endorsing Obama is not a concern.
That is reason. Everything else is just hate speech.
Thank you so much!
Obama08!
DEMOCRATS UNITED FOR OBAMA 08
Clinton for President "08"
She is the best candidate.
Sounds Good. I do believe we need to unite as soon as possible.
Obama 08
“I will not support changing the rules in the fourth quarter of this contest through some convoluted DNC rules committee process."
AMEN
OBAMA '08
Guess they were hoping to get some of that Obama dirty money in their next campaign. Way to go for corrupt politics. Yea, Chicago style
wonderful
welcome aboard sir
this is taking FOREVER!!!!
I can see why superdelegates now may be reluctant. I certainly wouldn't want to be superdelegate #2026... the person who puts Obama over the top.
some people keep hoping the this thing will be over... during the primaries, at this May 31st meeting, after the final primary... i can't take it if it goes to convention... I'm WORN OUT!!!
count all of Florida and Michigan so as long as the outcome doesnt change
Thank you California congressmen Jim Costa and Dennis Cardoza your in my part of the woods and it's glad to have you on board of the change making team.
Thanks for helping the world to be a better place..
Obama 08
Sweet. Please add the 2 Edward's pledged delegates that also joined the Obama train this morning i.e. 2 supers and 2 pledged. HRC, I love your courage but sometimes the best courage is to accept the inevitability. I blame Terry for all this and Mark Penn also, the two stupid strategists that failed you.
Welcome to the team !!! Looks like the Judas calls will start again.
Momentum like this is good for the Democrat's nomination to Presidency in November.
Who gives a rat's? Just two more bought-off losers jumping on the sinking ship and trying to make things appear other than they really are. Pathetic. I hope every one of these back-stabbers loses whatever positions they currently hold.
The fat lady has been singing for twenty years, and has been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!
Clinton doesn't get it. She wants to drag this race forever.
OBAMA '08
CLINTON-NEVER MORE!
Writing on the wall for Clinton!!!
Why are my comments always kept in moderation......
Like lambs to the slaughter...
Me and everyone I know are switching sides this year. Proud to be voting Democrat for the first time ever!
(former) Republicans for Obama!
It is time to bring this to a close. I hope other Super Delegates will follow suit in supporting Barack Obama.
Senator Clinton should take this to the convention. The Superdelegates should all have to stand up and be counted.
Here comes the deluge. Hillary are you looking or are you an Ostrich with head buried in SAND.
Can someone explain to me the Clinton hypocracy? How can she and her supporters say "Every Vote Counts" when talking about seating Florida and Michigan delegates, while in the same breath they argue that the votes from caucus states should not count because it messes with their incredibly weak argument that she has the popular vote? I don't get this. Either you count all the popular votes, in which case she loses, or you count all the delegates, in which case she loses. The only way she can "win" is to count some and exclude others. Why not just use the argument that you should not count any state Obama won and only count the states that Clinton won...by golly she'd get the nomination then...
It wont be that much long. Untie we must, under one candidate
Democrats – you may not be aware of people known as 'trolls' who post on blogs and bulletin boards just trying to start fights. If they can start a fight between Clinton and Obama supporters, they are happy.
Just because an anonymous troll says he/she is supporting one, and makes derogatory comments towards another does *not* make what they say truth. Anyone can post under many different names here, and take both sides – trying to start a fight.
Democrats – do not let the trolls and Republicans divide you. These blog comments are *not* representative of most voters. Note that many of the posters are the same people over and over. Either they have no jobs, or it *is* their job to stir up controversy.
go go go!!!!
What an idiotic comment from Cardoza: I think Hillary would be the best president, but since Obama probably will win, I want to be on the winning side and not the better side.
What a moron.
Yet another example of people's follow the flock mentality. "I will switch my support from the candidate I prefer to the candidate who is winning." Thanks a lot, Democrat superdelegates. Your spinelessness will lead us over the cliff in an election that should have been a cakewalk for the THIRD TIME IN A ROW. You're making our country proud, you idiots.
Good. Hillary has to be off of her rocker if she thinks that the DNC is
going to allow her to destroy the democratic party at this crucial point
leading up to November. That debacle that she pulled in Florida was
preposterous. Even her own supporters are beginning to realize that
she is a toxic backstabber to the democratic party. She should have
stayed a republican, maybe its not too late for her to join John McCain's
ticket, which would be her biggest help by then guaranteeing a shoo
in for the true democratic party.
Add the 2 new New Hampshire delegates to Obama's column too.
After this weekend he'll need less than 50. She'll need about 260. It's over, let's all support Obama!
Unless the DNC seats the Florida & Michigan delegates and honors the results of those primaries, there will be no party unity, That is a fairy tale.
There are over 18,000,000 people that have voted for Senator Hillary Clinton. We will NOT be falling in line unless the Democratic party does the right thing.
I hope the Democratic party leaders understand there is a good reason why Clinton leads McCain in the big states. She can win and Obama cannot.
Obama's biggest problem is not McCain. It is his lack of support by blue collare America that he thought it was OK to stereotype them as turning to bigotry.
Why would anyone vote for someone who calls people bigots?
HILLARY SUPPORTERS,
If you want to give a negative comment about Obama, please stated something factual, substantial, and issue related. Enough of these muslim references, rev. wright references, experience references, etc. Please stop showing your true ignorance and state a constructive criticism.
Great Job, Let's keep it going and let's end this
Good job, hang in there OBAMA
VERY WELL STATED by Dennis Cardoza.
It's the 4th quarter. It's not time for a last minute, rash decision. It defeats the party, rules, and Democracy as a whole. Hopefully other superdelegates feel the same and come out before the last of the month.
On to the General Election!
CNN, you're soooo biased. You made your headline positive for Obama, of course!
You could've said that Clinton gets more superdelegately challenged, but nooo. Always spinning positively for your candidate!
(end sarcasm)
I am an educated white guy excited for a black president!
Maybe Hillary should run for Govenor of West Virginia.
Outstanding news! Another Clinton supporter sees the writing on the wall!
As more and more of them realize how difficult it would be for Senator Clinton to win, I hope we Obama supporters can exhibit some grace. I've been thinking lately how short-sighted it is of us to spew hatred towards Senator Clinton's supporters. As close as the general election will be, all Democrats need to unite!
When I was about 12 I figured out why Republicans do so well in national elections: it's that they are always able to put the wounds of a primary behind them. They always get behind the nominee. Democrats will never match their success as long as we let "bitter" feelings divide us, so let's set that aside and get behind Obama / Clinton, a great way to unite the party and take down John McCain!
http://genespolitics.blogspot.com
Congratulations on two more endorsements Senator Obama! Well-deserved!!
YES WE CAN!
Its almost over and we can finally IGNORE and FORGET about that lady.
Wonderful!
Let's get this over with and unite the party. It is way past time for the Clinton's to stop the foolishness.
Please Hillary, for once, do the right thing and not the selfish choice.
Wow I don't know what these stupids are thinking. Cardoza being yet another turncoat and his reasoning just gives Clinton supporters more ammo not to vote for his new endorsee. His reasoning is idiotic because whether he likes it or not the rules committee is going to meet anyway. I guess Cardoza doesn't care if over 2 million voters aren't counted just as long as his is. What a moron.
Hope to see more Super Delegates come thru today!
It's time.
Congrats Senator Obama!
Go Obama! Fl and MI went against the rules and they must follow the the rules. Why is Hillary to to change the goal post now? I agree that you can not move the goal post in the 4th quarter? She is so ridiculous in this matter. I can not believe that she is still fighting for this. This talk about Hillary supporters voting for McCain in November is nonsense! WE need to unify and not tear apart! Hillary "fighter" attitude is tearing the party apart!
hillary must think that the DNC Rules committee is as sleazy and corrupt as she is . This "lady" lives in her own little world and is a legend only in her own mind .
I really DON"T think you get it Obama supporters....Clinton should be offered the VP slot. There are over 17 million voters for Clinton.
Your disrespect of her, is what is souring the Democratic Party. Your unwillingness to call her a great candidate (and she is) is driving Middle of the Road Democrats to McCain.
So who cares if you get our vote or not? YOU DON'T!!!
By the way, you may want to check out the Untruthful comments of Senator Obama on the Fox news site....CNN certainly never questions him!!
CNN – Obama has gotten 4- superdelegates this morning!
Thank you Supers and thanks for telling the truth about how evil Hillary is by trying to change the rules in the fourth quarter...ha,ha,ha!
Thank you and welcome to the "O" Team!
Way to go Bam!
Now if we can only kick Hillary out of Florida..
To those comentors who leave Osama type comments....you are only displaying the quintessential Republican characteristics of hate and divisiveness and a party that caters only tokenly to people of color. You objective is pointless and your style is cruel. Much like the GOP itself.
It must really hurt to know you had the world in the palm of your hand and you took it for granted and lost.
Poor campaign strategy lost this election for the "presumed" nominee.
Hilliary and her supporters can only blame her and her strategists.
Obama didn't plan her campaign.
The Superdelegates didn't plan her campaign.
Hilliary supporters look at reality, not what you would like to be reality.
The Superdelegate march continues and the gates will open in June.
Superdelgates:
Are your pockets getting heavy from being paid off? Hillary will end up with the popular vote with or without Michigan and Florida. Watch and see.
You are fools.
Hillary or McCain 2008
your'e late but not lost. welcome fellows
Five add-on superdelegates will be selected before the end of the month
Alaska (1 delegate, Obama won Alaska 75%/25%)
Georgia (2 delegates, Obama won Georgia 66%/31%)
Wyoming (1 delegate, Obama won Wyoming 61%/38%)
Hawaii (1 delegate, Obama won Hawaii 76%/24%).
I'm going to guess Obama has a good chance to pick up all five.
A FORMER Clinton backer stated this:
I believe that Senator Obama will inevitably be our party’s nominee for President,” Cardoza, who had previously supported Sen. Hillary Clinton, said in the statement.
Costa said electability had helped drive his decision. “In my opinion, it is clear that Senator Obama will be the strongest presidential nominee for the Democratic Party,” Costa said in the statement released by the campaign.
Something all Americans knew already. Thank you for your honesty Mr. Cardoza and Mr. Costa.
OBAMA: THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!
He can get as many as so called supporters he wants!!! I will NEVER vote or support a person who is so weak and only believes in ONE cause, his own.
LETS GO MC CAIN!!!!! YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT!!!!
She needs to quit already. if more superdelegates would stop wasting time, this would be over. We need to unite and get ready for November. The next thing will be, "Oh, the Dems didn't win because Obama was the nominee." When in fact it would be because she dragged her butt and the whole party down for her selfish reasons not giving enough time for November preparation.
Why won't her supporters see that and let it go?
I must admit that I am surprised more superdelegates haven't come out since Tuesday. He is so close - 20 more superdelegates and a split of the remaining pedged delegates and he has it. I figured that the party would want to boost him over the finish line ASAP and finally end this thing. I guess they figured at this point they might as well wait until after June 3. No worries, we will still unite and win big in November.
Please Obama go home...you are not the right candidate..You cant win !!!! This man is dangerous and needs to go home with his wife!! Hillary is the only one that can beat McCain....I am a Dem but I would never never vote for a man who has hatred behind him...his wife hates and so does he....come on you Obama supporters where are you heads??? He is not the one who should be in the White House.
seat michigan and florida in 2016 for chelsea clinton or geraldine ferraro. ho ho ho
Add in the 2 Edwards delegates that announced they were switching, and that's a total of 4 for the day. That brings the total of delegates needs for Senator Obama down to 57.
welcome on board
Obama 08
Thank you Jim Costa and Dennis Cardoza for your thoughtful decision. The Clintons will do anything to deny the Presidency to the DEMS come November. So we need more defection of her Supers to OBAMA to help cool them down.
The Clintons are shameless bigots.
The smart way to go OBAMA 08........
YIPPIE!
WELCOME!
I for one cannot understand why Clinton is holding the campaign hostage with her negativity and me, me, me!, rhetoric. Her supporters seem to be just as self centered and mean spirited as she is and as arrogant as her husband.
good!i hope more come to their senses.i'm sick of hillary.she's a party-pooper,and so are her supporters.
I am elated that some of the superdelegates are coming to their senses. Now is the time to rally around Obama so that he can confront McCain head on. Enough of Hillary's foolish talk!! she has even gone as far as suggesting that the people of Florida and Michigan vote for McCain if the situation is not resolved (in her favor, as we all know). She is dividing the party and by letting her continue to be delusional will farther divide the party. Come on, Superdelegates!! Step onto the stage and stop trying to make a GRAND ENTRANCE!!
What needs to happen is intensive polling on all of the swing states. Including Hillary's claim of swing states and Obama's claim of swing states – pitted against John McCain. This would be an important metric. Who cares who wins the democratic nomination based on a flawed process. What matters is who wins in the general. All of this would be a waste of energy if democrats don't get the white house.
If the polling suggest Obama will be stronger and more likely the winner against john mccain in particular swing states then give him the nomination hands down. If on the other Hillary is stronger, we have a problem....
let the good time role......2026 here he comes........can you see it hillary..........mccain is haggee's homie.........haggee.......worship hitler.....with.....hitler hate the jews.....now the jewish could finally see that there aint nothing wrong with a man with a so call funny middle name........come on everybody.........let 's put America back in the fore front on the world........with BARACK HUSSEIN(yes i said and what) OBAMA AS PRESIDENT............
Remember how history repeats itself. The Democrats jaws are going to drop again this election when Florida is instrumental in putting a Republican back in the White House. Afterwards I guess McCain is going to say, Hey I am going to Disneyland.
The superdelegates should put a fast end to this: Obama for president, Clinton for vice president. If Obama wants their support now to avoid a convention fight, he should allow Clinton on his ticket but be allowed to reduce her role to the constituional one (leading the senate, standing in for a dead president).
Agree with the words of congressman Cardoza. The moment of unity is now. Let's agree on the nominee and then seat FL and MI. I am a PA voter and our state did not change the primary date, at the risk of becoming insignificant in the process. Those who did against the rules should have consequences. I favor giving each rapresentative 1/2 vote and seat them as resulted in the voting. Still it will not give HRC the majority she needs. Alrough an Obama supported I would vote for her had she won fairly the competition. She has not and will not.
We are almost there. All systems are Go and all lights are GREEN
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If McCain won't bring our troops home, maybe the HRC supporters who vote for him will step up to the plate and offer your services in place of one of our brave soldiers? How much do you like putting your life on the line?
What a lot of people don't realize is that Clinton is bonkers–crazy, insane–and she will disrupt the process all the way to and past the convention. Only the intervention of some deus ex machina or her judicial arrest and incarceration for 90 days of observation for clinical insanity will end this farce.
I think that the only super delegates that are holding back now are the party people that owe the Clintons favors. Anyone with half a brain can see that Obama has won the nomination. I think the Clintons feel that they can force the delegates to give her the VP nomination at the convention no matter who Obama wants to run with.
I think its funny that the name-callers (such as in the first comment), can never spell "loser" correctly. Even so, how is the person who has been consistently in the lead a "looser"? Jealousy is definitely rearing its ugly head.
Look people, Hillary Clinton has changed her tone and is preparing to back Obama. She is in it at this point to try and earn back the money she has lent her campaign. Anyone who can't see that is delusional. Let's all ease up on each other, stop the insanity, and be prepared to fight McCain and ensure we do not have another 4 years of failed, anti-U.S. policies spewing from the White House. We can ill afford another 4 years of these failed policies. Anyone who votes for McCain is not only a true Democrat, but also not a True American.
Thank you, gentlemen. The inevitable is here. I think it's important that Hillary realize that NOTHING short of Obama doing something incredibly stupid (like, say, what Bill did while he was in office with Monica) is going to hand the nomination to her. Obama is the presumptive nominee (for you Hillary supporters, that means he's probably the guy to get the nomination). The majority of American Democrats have voted for him (in spite of Hillary's weird math). The caucuses have voted for him. The superdelegates are going to him.
If, through some sneaky rules change, the nomination goes to Hillary, it will destroy the Democratic Party. Not because people don't like Hillary, but because people are tired of sneaky, backroom political deal-making. If this nomination goes to anyone but the person most people voted for (in the elections that counted....sorry...Florida and Michigan).....you can bet that Hillary will lose big in November. Peope will leave the Democraty Party in droves. All the maneuvering and "electability" will go out the window......
we need to keep in mind this race was just starting and i bet if obama had been able to campaign and have his name on ballot he would have won michigan (over 45% voted uncommitted even though her name was the only one on that ballot) – and in florida obama was not known so i be he that would have been a tight race – YOU CAN NOT CHANGE THE RULES THIS LATE IN THE GAME – that would be like fixing a race – so HILARY please just go quietly and try again next time – don't make it so hard....and lets get over this issue of who can get what vote – it doesn't matter – we need to be UNIFIED against the Republican party if we want to win this election and stop this war – PRAY FOR OBAMA IF YOU ARE NOT SURE ABOUT HIM – does no good to talk about it just pray about it
It doesn't matter how many super delegate supporters Obama racks up. It is still a fact that 50% of the Democrats of this great USA do NOT want Obama for president. Also, 50% do NOT want Hillary Clinton as president. Something has got to be done to unite the party. Just giving it all to Obama will NOT unite, but will divide the party even further. I can tell you most Democrats in my area of the country will not support Obama. I don't know if putting Hillary on the ticket would help, but it would be a great injustice to the people of this country if AGAIN the wishes of the people are ignored. It would be very interesting to see how many super delegates were stolen by Obama from districts/states that voted in the majority for Hillary Clinton. I know two such superdelegates in my state that didn't support her when their district went strongly for Hillary. They have received the last votes from me!!!!
Linda in Indiana
I wonder what was offered to her to switch over. Come November all these fools will be sorry they sided with Obama. Even if he gets the nomination, the majority of the voters will write in Hillary's name in the ballot as a write in candidate.
I hope he gets enough superdelegates before June 3rd, so after those last primaries, he has enough to clinch the nomination. It would be absolutely dreadul if Clinton took this fight to the Convention. It would make her look like the sorest of losers. I can not imagine why ever her followers are not turned off by her lies, her desperation, and her pettiness. Let's start with the fact that in October of last year, Clinton agreed to these rules! You can not re-write history. And now to claim that they must count and use convoluted math to try and convince people is more hoodwinking than I've ever seen from the Obama camp. If she takes this to the Convention and still doesn't get the nomination, she will lose all respect in the Democratic party. It's unfortunate that she had to go down like this, but she should have planned for this to go beyond Super Tuesday. People talk about how presumptive it is for Obama to start searching for a running mate. I think it is presumptive to think that you will win by a landslide before the end of March. She has blindsighted and Obama and his supporters can not be blamed for that!
Obama 08!!!
Only 11 days left till Clinton concedes. McCain is slowly imploding.
LOL LOL L:OL LOL LOL Another BACKSTABER Must be a friend of Jack Cafferty
Hillary 08 Madame President GO HILL GO right to the ConVEntion
Do not give in to OBAMA
Good news!
Obama O-8!!
Time to end this so we can start getting up in McCain's face about the flip-flops. Let Hillary play with herself.
Keep them coming and end this thing already!
59 to go for Obama, great. There are reports of some more SD's coming out today, at least 1 or 2, check out "2008 Democratic Convention Watch: Superdeligates". They are very good at keeping up with the superdeligate and deligate watch. Not sure how to post a link in this comment section.
Good going Cardoza.
Obama '08
Obama just keeps getting more super delegates. This is just great for him. I do thank the super delegates that support Obama and have which over from Hillary. Let's hope that in the next two primarys that he wins big to get 2025.
Dean – Colton, you are right.
Hillary's desperate, so she dumpster dive for florida and michigan.
like most people I have extremely strong feelings on the subject but in the interest of moving forward I'll keep it constructive and just say let's hope this snowballs quickly so people can get focused on November...
Obama also gained the endorsement of 2 of Edwards NH pledged delegates today, gain for Obama today is 4, -1 for Clinton.
You know, thinking about this, there is one really symbolic thing Clinton could do to really bring this party together. She should be the one that gives him the endorsement that puts him at the magic number. That would be the absolute best thing for the party.
Unlikely it will happen, just wishful thinking....
POST MY POSTr
Great, 58 more superdelegates to go. I love it.
Obama 08
Oh and let's have a baby Obama in the White House.
I'm glad that SUPAS are coming around, they really can put an end to all of this nonsense. I believe that if you're for McCain that YOU should stay out of DEMS bizness! Vote for your guy and WE will vote for ours. The one with the most votes will win. No need for blogging trash about BO (he's got no experience, blackness, wifeyness, etc.) Furthermore, Barrak supporters don't need to say nasty things about McCain (age, richness, whiteness, wifeyness etc.) BECAUSE THE MOST VOTES WIN REGARDLESS, got that Hill!
Go Obama!
Just give her Florida, and split Michigan 50/50, so we can move on!
That's I'm talking about. I'm a black female and likes Hillary but this is dividing our party. We all know Barack has won unless they still it from him. We need to stop this madness and move on. I think both candidates can go back to Florida and reaasure them that we will not break the rules but we do need the votes in November. They can apologize and ask Florida for forgiveness and tell them that McCain is not right for them.
If 'count all the votes' were an actual concern to Clinton, then she would want to count the votes for 'nobody' in Michigan, and would want to get the votes from those who stayed home in both FL and MI. Trying to count the votes as they were cast is a disingenous attempt to skew things into her favor. If you can't have a revote, then the primary is invalid because a huge number of people woult *not* have their votes counted for the candidate they preferred.
The 'count every vote' campaign is, in fact, a fraud, under this scenario. Either split the delegates, or have a revote – taking them asis would be fraudulent.
it's only inevitable if there are more traitiors/blind followers that cross over.
Dear Obamaosama,
If you want to be a racist, I respect that, but respect that I will call you a racist, because you are. Your narrow minded thinking is just hurt you and no one else.
Also, I can said voting for Clinton or McCain makes you an idiot!
Just your average white collar white southern male.
These people are giving up on Hillary too soon. When the primaries finish June 3, she will have the popular vote on many counts. Just wait and see. Also, not everyone is convinced that Sen. Obama is the strongest candidate to lead in November. If he gets the nomination, my guess is that he'll snub Hillary and choose someone else for VP and then we'll have the usual losing Democratic team just like the last two elections!
Just wondering are they changing because they are afraid of being racist?
I thought Sen. Clinton won California.
It might be over for Sen. Clinton but that doesn't mean a win in Nov. for Obama.
I think people will see that John McCain is not Bush and is the more experience candidate. Don't count chickens before they are hatched.
ANOTHER JUDAS SEALING OBAMA'S COFFIN.
OBAMA WILL NOT WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION....
I'm sorry, did you mean 'Loser'. Spell check before you blog, lest you sound like the other Clinton support-to-the end racists of West Virginia, and Kentucky. 'Looser" is an adjective meaning 'more loose'. Something like the moral values of your candidate.
OBAMA '08
CNN try to be quick with the news he got 4 so far today not two. Whats the matter can't CNN keep up with the flood of SDs voting for a better AMERICA?
Father knows best.
It will never end at this rate.
YES WE CAN
OBAMA/BIDEN
The drip of Super Delegates will soon turn into the flood! Do you notice no one had defected from Barack's camp? Once the FL and MI are settled the delegates will all be Barack's and the Clinton's can take their flying leap!! The party will be united and we will have our next POTUS Barack OBAAM!!
While I continue to greatly respect and admire Senator Clinton and feel she has made history with her campaign, I believe that Senator Obama will inevitably be our party’s nominee for President,” Cardoza, who had previously supported Sen. Hillary Clinton, said in the statement.
The above is all BS supporters like this should at list have the intelligence to stop talking, they are not worth of consideration 9 pure opportunistic politicians).
The process of democratic process has to be changed with primary and winner take all no more caucuses.
If we go by the process super delegates should vote for who is the best candidate the one that can win in November.
HILLARY 08
If the GE is Obama/McCain
We left the most prepared and qualified out so
LET'S WRITE IN HILLARY
Oh Happy Day...Oh Happy Day...Oh Happy Day!
60 delegates to go. (with the real math, of course)
Our country is falling to shreds - it seems like everyone has now been brainwashed into falling into the Obama trap!!
How sad!! It is not good news for our country!
GOD SAVE AMERICA FROM OBAMA!!!
I find the Florida issue amusing. Does anybody know the original date of the Florida primary? That's right, it was Tuesday, March 4th. – the day of the OH and TX primaries (as well as VT and RI). Florida moved up its primary because it wanted to have a say in the process. Well it is pretty ironic to know that if Florida had stayed at March 4th and allowed campaigning and Clinton won by 15 points then Obama would have been finished. Florida would have been THE deciding state if it didn't move up its primary. I always get a chuckle at that.
Also, I have actually warmed up to the idea of Clinton being Obama's running mate. An Obama-Clinton ticket would do well. It would not pull in WV or KY but it would guarantee a win in MI, OH, and PA and would put FL in play. Besides, Clinton would throw a fit like a 5-year-old if she didn't get the spot. States Obama wins if he takes Clinton as his running mate.
HI, CA, OR, WA, NV, NM, CO, MN, IA, MO, IL, WI, MI, OH, PA, MD, VA, DE, NJ, NY, CT, RI, MA, VT, NH, ME, and possibly FL. That is a total of 349 electoral votes. That is a landslide win.
Obama/Clinton '08
wait and see..... McCain will win all because the DNC did count all the states
Hillary is ridiculous! She is selfish and egotistical. She is so concerned w/ being the 1st female President, that she may just cause her party, and the nation, it's chance at a first black one. If the roles were reversed, we all know she'd be advocating sticking to the rules, but since it serves her interest, she wants the "votes" to count! I think at this point, she wouls tarnish the ticket and I don't even want her for VP, let alone P. Hey Hillary-bot, go activate tears and cry about it.
Barack Obama, come on pretty momma–Vote for Obama.
GO McCain...Obama can not win the general and Hillary is our only HOPE!!
Good luck you Obamaites. McCain will be president unless Hillary is VP. Mark my words.
Hillary is strong minded person who never gives up, even when she has lost. Kinda reminds me of a stalker. All of those people who support her are talking about what a fighter she is, but have you just asked yourself if her campaign is in debt how can she keep the country out of debt? If you lose fair and square how could someone have stolen something from you?
Despite the latest delegates Obama has added to his stash, we have to believe that there are still those who will not cast their vote to advance their own careers, as Edwards will, or to promote their own legacy, as Kennedy will, or to soothe their own conscience for past mistakes, as Sen. Byrd has. This is a time for true patriots, that is, those who will truly put the welfare of their country first.
Sen. Clinton is by far the most capable candidate, and this is not the time to put a less capable man into office. She has more insight into the issues, including the economy, health care, and foreign affairs. She is far better prepared.
I am soooooooooooo ready for this to be over and for President Obama to take his rightful place in the White House.
Whoop, There It Is !!!!
Obama 08
Hillary is disenfranchising the people who did not go out to vote, by asking for the votes in Florida and Michigan to count as is. They were told their vote wouldnt count so they willingly stayed home, thinking the race would end on Super Tuesday as it has for years. All of a sudden Hillary says, Gotcha, that primary actually counts. Its very hurtful and insulting to my relatives in Florida.
Obama 08
i wont vote for Obama, but maybe i will write in Hillary
With being a Democrat and a huge Clinton supporter, I look at this way. If Obama gets the nod to run for the house, then I will be voting for McCain come November. McCain has the white supporters and Obama doesn't. He will loose all the major states while McCain walks freely into the white house.
TO ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS WHO STATE THEY WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN INSTEAD OF OBAMA:
IF, for some strange reason, the nomination is TAKEN away from OBAMA this AMERICAN WOMAN will NOT be voting for CLINTON!
Obama or McCain '08
JUST KIDDING – I can't do that to my children . . .
DEMOCRATS '08
THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!
And can someone PLEASE tell Sen. Clinton that she still IS NOT WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE! Even with FL and MI. Her math does not include caucuses. And why does she feel any validity with MI's contest when no other name was on the ballot but hers. Poor sport!
FURTHERMORE, It is preposterous for her to continually ignite her supporters with false hopes that she can win! Senator Clinton's campaign chances for president have sailed and she is trying to chase down the ship, on water, without drowning!
Bill aint Jesus and he can’t reach down and save her! She better stay with the ship and drift on down stream!
Obama is more electable in November since Clinton can't even win the primary.
Democrat '08
I've been a Clinton supporter since the Iowa Caucus. I still feel she is still the most viable candidate. I think the Democrats are a bunch of back stabbers and they are just hurting themselves. I am registering back to a Independent.
Can someone factually explain why Florida and Michigan decided to "fly solo", and is Howrd Dean so weak and ineffective in his leadership to allow this? I still haven't seen any rationale for their foolish decision to harm their own party...isn't that Bill and Hillary's job?
DRIP DRIP DRIP
When was the last time someone endorsed HRC?
Think about it.
DRIP DRIP DRIP
OBAMA 08 – 13
ENJOY
Any attempt now is futile.
Hillary risk to become the
laughing-stock of the world.
Would like to know what is Hillary's "walk-away-withdrawal" number? Maybe they can offer Hillary a "buy-out"....or pay her bills. It is so ridiculous that it is sad.
Hillary should run as an Independent. The two party system needs to end, and she could be the credible candidate to do it! Obama is already going to lose the GE anyway. No one in my family is voting for him here in California because of his lack of both experience and concrete vision. I just hope they DON'T turn around and vote for McCain, but I'm afraid that's exactly what they're going to do.
An Independent Hillary in 2008!!!
They set the rules for the game. All the players agreed to play by those rules. Clintons are a big policy makers of DNC. They thought those rules would be good for Hillary to win the nomination.
But amazing things happened- in Bill's words, it is 'a fairy tale.' People of America spoke in favor of Senator Obama. But Clintons were not ready for that kind of support from 'ungrateful' fellow Americans – afterall they had done so much good to these 'stupid' fellow Americans who don't know who would be the best president.
So, what to do? Clintons know well. Change the rules again so that they favor Hillary. It does not matter whether those changes are unethical. Now, they are talking about the voting rights of the people. Before, they talked about the law breaking nature of those poeple (FL ande MI).
What can I say? Whom can I complain to?
Best: God help us.
Good move...
Super delegates has urgent responsibility to end this primary very soon. We need to start the healing process soon...
Some republicans are blogging as Hillary supporters to widen the division in the democratic party. This is similar to what they did voting for her. The whole party (not only presidential candidate) will be at great risk of major loss in November if this primary will not end soon and we focus on November
Maybe he will get a flood of superdelegates, say maybe 30, so that he will have something in his favor. As if he needs something, thanks to Hillary. He's already won.
obama the change we need to move america n the rest of the world forward.
Please Super-delegates,
Do your job and end this before May 31st.
Your duty is to help the process not withhold your votes until everyone else has had their say and then weigh in - We must vote and you should too. This includes Nancy and the other LEADERS. We expect you to LEAD not FOLLOW us all off a clift.
Very simple: McCain will be winning if Hillary is not Dem Candidate. I support whoever devoted their life time serve this country, standout to defense this country, work hard to make this country better and Proud to be American!
I agree that we need to rally behind one nominee. Good thing that nominee actually happens to be the right person for the job and the only candidate that stands a mathematical chance of reaching the nomination!
**Obama 08 and 12**
It is time for superdelegates to help finalise this race !!
no need for King Clinton, Princess Chelsea or the former Queen
Hiilary...we are talking about the White House and not the White Palace !!!
It is time for us Americans to wake up and remember what made us strong and envy of the world....
the next endorse we looking for should come from HILLARY OR BILL OBAMA for presdent
Why did not obama not register for the military when he was 18? Why did he wait until 1980. How many times is he going to change his name? Through most of his childhood, Barack went by the nickname Bar. When he grew older, he went by the name of Barry.Only when Barack went to college and needed the influence's of the government funds and black people did he start using barack.
TO all you Obama haters this victory in NOV will be that much sweeter....
You guys are so closed minded and the country will see a new day with BARRACK OBAMA as President. In Nov it will be a day that our childrens, childrens, childrens will discuss in thier history books.
when will Hillary finally SHUT UP and GO AWAY?
Being the "inevitable" nominee is not a cause for support. Most Clinton supporters do not care about bandwagons. Many of us cannot rally behind someone who is simply not qualified to be president. Obama said so himself in 2004. So, even if it is "inevitable," it is about principle, loyalty, and the understanding that we need to support someone that can actually win in November. Everyone talks about the "math" against Senator Clinton, but the "math" has also revealed that Obama has never received the support from the constituency that is essential to winning swing states in the fall. It is "inevitable" that the Democrats will once again manage to mess up what should be a slam dunk.
Okay, here comes the childish "Either its Hillary or I'm voting Mccain in 5....4....3....2....1.....
Obama/bloomberg 08
Dems are really funny people,this election has been tailormade for you guys,unpopular war,bad economy etc,yet you guys are so divided.
independents will never vote for your girl hillary,obama has a better chance with independents.putting hill on the ticket is a kiss of death.
I see Hillary is making the VP play now.....
HRC supporters....now is the time to realize that EVERYTHING you have been parroting back in the blogs is a lie that was spoon fed to you by Clinton – now if Obama truly had less experience and was judgement compromised – would she want to serve as VP....no....but when you are "entitled" and power hungry – you do
Stop with your nonsense...people who read know that Hillary is playing you..."votes in MI and FL need to count" – she agreed to the penalty – now – she's pandering....."we need to cut the federal gas tax" – offers this up on May 6th....knowing that she would of needed to submit it to the senate for consideration by May 2nd....supported NAFTA....now...it needs to change.....(whereas a month before it was "good for NY") – she promised NY jobs....didn't deliver – NY is an excellent place for any carpetbagger....enough already....be angry....but be angry at the right person – Hillary lied to you from day 1
Another one going for a loser!!!
WRITE IN HILLARY or VOTE FOR McCAIN!!
LOL MORE MEN THINKING WITH THEIR MALE HORMONES, INSTEAD OF THEIR BRAIN!!!
ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION HILLARY!!!!
Finally, the superdelegates step up to the plate to be counted! This is the best news for what should now be a fantastic weekend! Thank You Congressmen. Thank You for telling it like it is. We all can't stomach the rules of the game being changed in the 4th Quarter.
I can't find any reason for Clinton to be in Florida stirring up trouble for our candidate. Hillary, it's over, you'er only causing trouble. We can't focus on McCain with you back stabbing Sen. Obama. You, Bill and Chalse are the source of rumors and trouble. Go Home! Write a book and get it off your chest. Leave our candidate alone, he's not bothering you, never asked you to leave the race and is quit competent to run this government without YOU.
If you are staying in to get your bills paid annd bank account reimbursed, just say so. Ask your donners to bail you out. Leave us alone. "Ready on day one"? You can't even run your own campaign financing let alone a government this big! You couldn't even win starting with all the toys in the toy box – a coranation to follow in November. If you can't do this, how are you qualified to run the US on day one? Just another Clinton Lie!
I loved Clinton but then she started getting negative with her speeches. I think it turned many people off. She should go the distance but stay positive eventhough she can't win. It is good for the States where they are contesting.
I'm glad the party is starting to unite. Let's set aside our personal frustrations and focus on electing a President who will get our young troops out of danger. The idea of leaving our teenagers in a life-threatening war simply because we're upset that our personal favorite candidate didn't get nominated is, quite frankly, disgusting. Let's focus on what's really important.
Not only is he gaining, but she is losing. Every time Obama gains a former super delegate of Clinton's he actually gains two. More and more, Clinton's theory of convincing the super delegates that she is more electable is falling on deaf ears and is losing credibility faster than her campaign is going into debt.
YEA !!!!
2 more SMART people to add to the books.
Say GOODBYE! Billary...so long !
We're almost there.
Welcome on board.
Obama 08
ISN'T ANYONE LISTENING? Hillary's not going to quit on us...... it's over when she says it's over...... no matter what is said by super delegates, elistist media/politicians/liberals and BO lovers.
She will continue to work as hard as she can to be our next president. I respect her for this. She's takes her cajones out of her purse when she needs to use them....... and if anyone can beat McCain... she can !!!
HILLARY FOR PREZ OR VP, OR......
..... I AM WRITING IN HER NAME IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. JOIN THE MOVEMENT HILLARY SUPPORTERS !!!!!
yess , Go Obama
From GE 2000 to primary of 2008, Florida has demonstrated to be an area full of old and less intelligent people who creates trouble. Since too old, too stupid, and too uneducated do not vote for Obama, he should just write off Florida like he wrote off WV and Kentucky.
Perhaps if the rest of the superdelegates got some courage and decided to back Obama, they could send a message - that the Democratic Party will not be damaged, along with our chances of winning the White House, for the ambition of one person. It's time to utilize some common sense.
By not allowing Senator Clinton to change the rules that she previously agreed to, the DNC is being sexist. The actual rules, which were created by Hillary supporters on the DNC, are sexist. The DNC is sexist. Anyone who doesn't agree is sexist. You are sexist. I am sexist. Everything in existence–except casting a vote for Senator Hillary Clinton–is sexist.
Shut it over FL and MI! Geez... They violated the rules. If the people of those states are angry, blame your ELECTED OFFICALS that moved the dates, knowing full-well the consequences. Stop trying to cry to the DNC. Impeach the losers out of office in your own state that wronged you. Move on!
If nobody haven't realised it yet .. Hilary is running for the VP. She well knows Obama would never offer it to her. So she is try to divide the party as much as possible by acting like the DNC stole the nomination from her, the media bias, sexism etc .......
So Obama wouldn't have to no choice but to add her to the ticket .. to help unite the party .. the more Clinton campaigns the more the party is divided ..
I can't tell Obama who to choose .. but i hope he doesn't pick Hilary .. i've got my reasons why (tired of listing them) .. if he does choose her .. I wouldn't mind .... and I hope if he does not choose her .. the Clinton supporters can respect his decision ... it's his choice to make .. not mine, nor you or anybody else ...
didn't mind Hilary being on the ticket a month ago .. once bill stayed away from the White House (He is going to boss Obama around, and i believe to things to undermine him)
But now Clinton is becoming to divisive..... and this right here turned me off ...... of her being VP .....
Just using this opportunity here to remind us all that many of HRC's supporters are really Republicans hoping to manipulate the demorcratic outcome.
Nothing against HRC but the Republicans are VERY nervous about the prospect of OBama securing the nomination. They know that in all likelihood Obama will win the presidency.
Many of the postings you see that come supposedly from HRC supporters about how they would vote for McCain over OBama is because they are Republicans and they intend to do just that.
Many of the postings that claim Obama cannot possibly win is an attempt on the Republican's part to cast doubt on your vote for Obama. Mind games.
As an aside, please keep this fact in mind when responding to HRC supporters with inane, hateful comments. Many of them are not authentic HRC supporters.
Peace.
The title says it all.
Finally the Superdelegates are waking -up?? My wife and I have no idea why it is taking them so long?? We live in WA State and are really dissapointed in Senator's MURRAY & CANTWELL who are still backing Clinton when WA state supports Obama overwhelmingly.!!! Most America is also wondering just what Ms Clinton is waiting for..now she wants to change the process... wow why did she not ask for this change way back when the campaign first started.. Oh, I Forgot ,she thought it would be over on Super Tuesday and she would be the walk away candidate... She is a VERY SORE LOSER!
Well said. We can't change the rules in the fourth quarter because someone is upset they can't win. RULES are RULES. The DNC and the Obama camp are ready to comprimise, even giving Clinton more delgates than a 50/50 split even though both agreed to not count but the Clinton camp is being greedy and wants all of the delages seated including giving Obama zero in MI. If you live in MI and are an Obama supporter, how would you fill if your candiidate, the one who, along with everyone else except for Clinton, abided by the rules and the agreement and look his name off the ballot and you couldn't vote for him, or voted in the repulbican primary then to see him get zero delegates would be an outright injustice.
"He chose to take his name off the ballot" – says Clinton. So did every other honorable democratic candidate. Where does that leave you?
Now we are sure those that has been attacking Obama in the guise of Hillary supporters are actually McCain supporters, Go to other blog and see the bigots embarace McCain , Hagee and Presely.
Now, true Hilary Support it is time to heal the wound and win in Novemeber. NoMcBush
I just have to say that McCain appears to be a weak person when confronted with tough decisions. If he's asked a question, he answers it in a way that appeals to voters even if it's not what he truly believes. Not to mention he points the finger when backed into the corner... and he's a so-called "Maverick?"
Also, lets face it, he's a Warmonger.
More, more!! We need this over Now!!!! Obama needs a lot of time to fight Bush/McCain champain!!!!! Hillary get on board and bring the dems together–NOW!!! She would be a pretty good VP!!! She'd have an awsome boss!!
What planet is Costa on? You can endorse Obama for... whatever reason. (??) But you certainly can't endorse him because he is more electable. There is not a single metric ANYWHERE that has shown that Obama today has the ability to get more electoral votes than McCain.
Obama also got two former Edward's backers and Native American superdelegates today! Let's hope that Gore and Pelosi soon jump on board.
Obama 08!!!!
Okay, so CNN make sure you update the delegate count. And keep checking back, because the numbers will change in Barack's favor fairly soon. I hope.
Obama 08
Finallly, voices of reason. The remaining superdelegates need to get on board and end this ridiculous fiasco NOW.
One thing that's important to remember when looking at what's going to happen with Florida and Michigan's delegations: more happens at the convention than just choosing the nominee.
I've heard some saying Obama would be weak to accept a compromise that wouldn't be purely in his best interest in terms of the nomination. But the Florida and Michigan delegates aren't likely to affect the nomination. What they could affect and should have a say in are some of the other issues and questions that will come up at the convention. That's why it's important to get those delegates seated, and honestly the sooner Clinton concedes the race, the more quickly the process for finding a fair and equitable way to seat those delegates is likely to happen.
only Losers and selfish people will suppport McCain
I'm so sick of the superdelegates switching sides before the nomination!
This Democrat will never support Obama!
Hillary is the only one who can get this country out of the mess we are in. But if I don't my 1st. choice. Guess I will be switching parties this election.
This Florida-Michigan debate is a joke. Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan but Clinton NOW wants their votes counted since she won.
She is being selfish and keeping the party at odds. McCain is in absolute cruise control.....
59 more to go, magic number 2026! Hopefully on June 3rd this fiasco will end & Hillary and her supporter can slink back under their rocks.
I would rather have her skirt chasing husband campaign for Obama.
I have yet to have a Clinton support give SPECIFIC reasons not to vote for Obama, besides insults that have nothing to do with the campaign he has run or issues he has run on,or his platform.
This lead me to believe they are refusing to vote for Obama, due to sour grapes about their candidate losing (because of her own mis-management and miscalculations) or they are racist.
Rev. Wright is NOT a good reason.... ESPECIALLY if you are supporting Hillary Clinton!
I have YET to hear a good reason.
Thank goodness, there are people coming around who are being honest and fair. Superdelegates, please end this madness for the good of the party.
Unbelievable. Like rats jumping a sinking. How do these people look at themselves in the mirror? What a bunch a hypicritical traitors. So much for "support". Things start to look bad and they switch sides.
...oops i meant to say "Losers" and not loosers....gee i can't spell. I'm dumb no wonder i like mclame.....durrr!!
i love that the governor of NY says it looks like she's starting to get desperate!! i have only one question–where has he been for the last several months. she's not starting get desperate...perhaps he could've said she's starting to get MORE desperate but she started getting desperate months ago.
i do wish the superdelegates would just put an end to this debacle. It's not doing the party any good no matter what they're saying to the contrary.
Its time for all the super delegates to rally around the BIG "O".
Let not drag this on any further...There are a lot of voters that are getting tired of this drawn out waste of time!
Well, One more reason to vote for McCain. When are the Dems going to wake up and see what they did to the party? I guess in november when we get another rep. President. I am a democrat, But will be switching to rep. sreal soon.
i love sports and when someone cheats or goes against the rules so far they are dealt with. Pete Rose is a people choice and has the all time record but he was dealt with. Florida and Michigan broke the rules and to allow them to WIN at no costs-costs the party and the country. It is like california and other states who would now vote for Obama–do we redo these states because when florida and Michigan happened nobody knew who Obama was and clinton use the name. Seat them but with a total of one vote each plus whatever their super delegates vote.
Obama supporters don't get it. We (Hillary supporters) will not back Obama in the general not because of educational-financial levels, or race. I am a young female, mixed race, well-educated (with a Ph.D), and with a very comfortable income. Why I will never vote for Obama? because, I do not trust him in many levels. I seriously doubt his love and pratiotism for this county, his inexperience, poor judgement, and his close friendship with so many anti-American leaders such as Farrakhan. The fact that he is running as a "Dem" is not enough qualification to convince me to vote for him. In order words, I am voting with my head not with my heart! This is why I strongly believe, that Hillary is the best choice we have as a Dem to lead this country. Sure she has a lot of baggages, but at least we know what they are, and what she is capable of. In contrast, we do not know enough about Obama.
Obama supporters, please stop the madness, and try to see things from a different perspective.
I understand that Florida and Michigan broke the rules...but do the ignorant people screaming about the DNC meeting to seat these delegates really believe it is wise to to just "forget" about these votes going into the general election. That's political suicide!! The Democratic Party would be destroying their chances in November by not counting the votes in Florida and Michigan. We live in a democracy and are fortunate to have the precious right to vote. What does it say about our nation as a whole when the DNC just blows off so many votes??
I do honestly believe that if Senator Obama was losing this primary race, his campaign would be screaming for ALL the votes to count as well. Obama could have avoided this mess by agreeing to a revote which was brought up a long time ago. Obama said no of course because it wouldn't favor him. Is this the type of man we want for President....who doesn't feel the votes of these Americans count?? I believe when Obama "skipped" campaigning much in West Virginia and Kentucky that he felt these people weren't important...he should have been fighting for those votes and instead took the easy road and moved on. That says alot about Obama's judgement and character. He had my vote and lost it. I no longer trust this man with our country's future.
Of course Hillary' & her supporters want the MI votes included. She went in unopposed (Obama at least), joining that State & FL in thumbing their nose at DNC mandate. Not hard to get votes when the choice is so limited.
The people have spoken, John McCain recognizes Obama as his opponent, so let's get on with it & defeat the Bush philosophy in November. Done, Over
Obama '08
I'm so sleepy, is this contest still going on, has billary claimed to be the president yet by default?
Wake me when it's done
GW VET FOR OBAMA
Everyone knows Obama is the nominee and yet Clinton stays in the race. Just shows how much of a party pooper she is. She would be forcing Obama to end the race had she been in an advantageous position. Now that she is not, she wants to find a convoluted way to gain the nomination. Her intentions are clear to the rest of the world but some americans are still so naive to just follow and believe whatever she says foolishly.
THE VOICE OF REASONING IS FINALLY PREVAILING!!!!!!!
Not only is Obama the most electable candidate in the democratic race, he is the most electable for us ex-republicans and independents and those who claim no political party!!! Once he is officially nominatted watch his support go through the roof!!! WOOHOO- Go Obama!!!
I cannot believe all of these people are jumping on the Obama band wagon. They need to get a backbone and have loyalty. If Sen. Obama does recieve the nomination I will guarntee you that we will have another republican in the white house and another 4 years of economic destruction with Mr. McCain.
More political insiders for Obama current count of Delegates elected by the will of the voters in primary elections:
Clinton 1329 Obama 1322
Those picked by insiders at caucuses Obama 325 Clinton 173
nuff said
I just wish everyone would remember that Clinton agreed to the DNC's decision to penalize Florida and Michigan when it was made.
Now she's acting like she's the patron saint of the poor disenfranchized voters of those states...but only because she's behind.
Shameless and shameful.
I am not surprise they are flocking to his side,the amazing phenomenon surprises me was the fact some came out from her side,thats alone carries fat meaning if you can reason with me.
Typical Democratic/Republican Politician.
Try to find the winning Band Wagon and not pay any attention to who or what the candidate is all about.
From a Republican
turncoats – no matter what happens, Hillary is a wise person for pursuing her goals and someday, people will see the widsom of it....you can never call her weak or a quitter. The people of the remaining states deserve to have her stay in for the primary votes. Good luck to the blowhard Obama for trying to win in the big states – ain't gonna happen. The DNC really blew this election. If I'm wrong – then I will say I was wrong – but from where I sit – I don't see it.
Thanks!!!! Keep coming we need all SD to step out and that the leap!
Let's all unite!!!
Obama 08/12!
As a Clinton supporter, I'm disappointed she wont be the nominee but I greatly respect Obama....any Dem. is better than a 3rd term of failed Bush policies.
We don’t care
I am sure Hillary will go up to the convention
If she don’t get the nomination we will vote for Mc Cain
I am sure Hillary will have more popular votes end of the primary
If DNC give the nomination to Obama that is against voters wish that is called broker nomination
We will select Mc Cain
We don’t like Hillary to be VP ticket she can wait four more years
Hillary 08 or Mc Cain 08
Even with Michigan and Florida, she'd still need the super delegates to overrule the popularly elected pledged delegates. This course of action won't help her win but could certainly inrease the number of her supporters unwilling to vote for Obama. Pure and simple this is a case of, "if I can't have it, no one will."
Hillary is the only true Republican left to vote for,just ask any Walmart greeter.
It's obvious that people that once supported Hillary are "wisening up" to the fact that she's acting like a child having a "tantrum" because things are not going the way that she was "so sure" would go. Hillary, you need to step aside with whatever little pride you have left and let the Demovcratic Party heal so that we can have an election in November!!!
You go Senator Obama!!!!
KEEP EM COMING !!!
C'mon Hillary supporters. Dont cut off your nose to spite your face. Come aboard the CHANGE EXPRESS. and unite.
OBAMA 08'/12'
Again, time to Hillary to get off and show support for Obama.
Otherwise, she will end up giving us 4 more years of McBush.
What a trickle for Obama. I guess another one saying." Oh well I guess we are stuck with this nominee." Better unite the party so let me switch. The way the DNC has treated Hillary is a disgrace and the party will not unite unless she is on the ticket.
Thank goodness the superdelegates are nearing their fill of HRC and her divisive tactics! I can't understand why on earth women are so supportive of HRC. Is it solely because she's a woman? For Pete's Sake! If that's the case, couldn't you have picked a more professional flag bearer? There has to be at least one woman who is able to tell the truth, not cheat, not break the rules, and not take advantage of "less-educated" Americans??? How ironic that HRC is acting like the stereotype all women claim to loathe. I would not have her as my flag bearer!! Women have worked too hard for too long to have HRC make you all look like fools. RUN AWAY FROM HER. SHE IS HURTING YOUR CAUSE.
I am so tired of MI and FL!!! Thank God some of her supporters are coming to their senses. This primary reminds me of a pre-school
tug- a- war match. It's mine-no it's mine. Enough already!!
From the start, we were told FL and MI did not count. ALL of the candidates including Hillary Rodham-Clinton agreed to rules set by the DNC. Now, everyone is blaming the DNC and Obama for this mess. I believe if Hillary had not started whining because she is loosing the delegate count, we would not be confused about FL and MI. But, I say let them count because she still can not win!!! Do the math as I have!!
Obama 2008!! It's time to turn the page; change is long over do!!
I question why so many of the SD haven't moved forward...I think this is going to be played out at the convention. The DNC let this go too far with Hillary screaming unfair (once she realized she wasn't the winner) since February 5. Once you let a child start throwing a fit (Hillary) you can't get them to stop. She is also having her attorneys get papers ready to stop Obama's nomination (NPR) quoted today.
What a mess.
The pretty simple fact is that Hillary agreed to the rules from the start. What she is doing is like shaking on a bet and then not paying your friend after you lose.
I just really hope that the "Hillary or McShame" morons snap out of it before November.
A fight to the death... liberals vs. conservatives
Hillary need to step down and bring unity and looking for seat on the
surpreme court judges or maybe secty of state. It is time to move to
defeat Mccain in november. Time to stop and Obama defeat mccain.
can't change horses in the middle of the road!
keep to the plan and get on the "Obama unite us train"
FLORIDA and MICHIGAN have to be counted. Obama will not be a truthworthy "foreign policy negotiator".
Hey obamaosama, if you are a democrat, fine, if you are a republican, fine, but don't be ignorant. The thing that will ruin America will be stupidity like yours.
Democrats come together behind Barack Obama Clinton supporters your candidate will support Obama and you should to so that we can take back the white house!!!
Great for Obama, these superdelegates aren't dumb. But I have a question, how is Clinton more electable when she is losing in pop vote (which includes Mich & fl), super dels and delegates and states won? Isn't the more electable person supposed to be winning?
So people,who won WV,Kentucky and Oregun?
I'm so tired of being told that we broke the rules, HELLO.... Florida democrats had nothing to do with he moving up of the vote, Florida is run by a republican majority that moved up the date, and was signed by a republican governor, so the DNC punished a state party that had nothing to do with it, that makes a lot of sense, that's like if my neighbor robbed a bank the police took me to jail, that's why I will no longer be a democrat and that's why Obama will lose in the fall, because he stopped any re-vote or an attempt to count the vote, so say all you want, its Obama's and the DNC fault
Clinton's advisers should be blamed for her refusal to quit,,,,,,the keep calling her "come back kid",,,,,now ,,she is ashamed not to fulfil the tag she is bearing,,,,,,the ego issue has set in,,,if they had told her the truth earlier,,this thing would have been over,, now they have messed this woman's reputation up.... every bad leader clinging to power is not acting alone,,the advisers are the main people pushing him/her...... a very good example is president Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe who has ruined his country but his advisers and backers won't tell the truth instead,,, they are pushing him until he is finally disgraced. or battered........these advisers are cycophants.......
racist Clinton supporters will support McBush
FEDUP, FRED, SHARON from MN- 59 DELEGATES TO WIN
MI Voters- Please email Debbie Dingell and her husband and YOUR MI Congressman Dingell (HRC supporter), they are the reason why your VOTES won't count!
FL Voters- Please email Rep. Ellyn Boganoff (R) and Rep. David Rivera (R), they are the reason why your VOTES won't count!
The people of Florida need to stand up for themselves with the leaders in their state for its problems instead of childishly blaming the candidates.After 8 years they should have straightened out their problems.You elected your officials.Your paying them to attend to these problems.Send complaints for your systems repair now.You have 4 years to get it done.Otherwise...don't complain.
Her are some Super Delegate with smoe guts to take the lead now and end this disaster that clinton is forcing down our throats. I would hope other Superdelegates would take the lead and endorse the candidate of and for the people, Barack Obama!
Given where the current goal posts are and the difference, I don't know how much longer Clinton will hold on. If she stays in until the end of June, it will be too long.
Even if you add in the delegates from Florida and Michigan, that might be enough to close the gap for Clinton to declare victory. If you look at all the states won, popular vote and few other indicators, it would really hurt some of the support that Democrats have currently if Clinton wins the nomination (mainly from superdelegates).
And on to the general... let's beat McCain!
Hillary '08 or McCain '08
Texas Democrats!!!!!
The SD are elected to make good decisions. It suprise me that they don't back Obama to stop the breakig down of DNC which Hillay Clinton is planning kwoningly or otherwise.
How can someone who wants to be president keep on saying that she wants the delegates especially from Michigan to be seated? Is just like Fidel Castro running for president without opposition. We American people call it dictatorship, but what ia the difference in this case.
Hillary wants to use every tools to get the nomination but she forgot that no one is burn with the mark. If the rules says who get the most delegate will be the nominie, than she should accept defeat. That what presidents do.
It like Bush want total victory in Iraq. Total victory is very good, but you don't do it with 100000 American lifes.
Hillary Clinton is going to destroy the party in this way and make it difficult for Obama to win Michigan and Florida.
Superdelegates be aware.
Hey CNN, why are you guys always late in reporting news. The 2 delegates is old news. The figure right now stands at 9 superdelegates for Obama just today. 9 NOT 2.
Besides Obama removing his name from the Michigan Ballot, people seem to think that he was the only one who did so. John Edwards removed his name as well in deference to the rules. Clinton never planned to play by the rules...so much for party loyalty!
About Florida and Michigan.....why is it that the political pundits nor any of the campaignes rarely, if ever, discuss the thousands upon thousands of Florida and Michigan residents who didn't bother to vote because they knew the votes wouldn't count...so here you have voters who played by the rules as well....Clinton never mentions these and keeps claiming she won both states! When will one of these media commentators have the "audacity" to simply ask her if she were ahead would she be championing the disenfranchisement of voters?
JAMES where every your from you have no clue about florida
It doesn't seem to do any good to tell you that the Republicans of Florida set the time for their primary and the Democrats could not afford to pay for another election. Who ever set the rules in concrete that Iowa and New Hampshire have to be first? I know of some other poor states that could sure have benefited from all that money poured into Iowa. I imagine if it was your vote not being counted you would be hollering loud.
You're supposed to support/endorse the candidate that is strongest, or is more in line with your policies/values, or that you feel will win...these are all things that you should've known a long time ago..all these ppl who are "switching endorsements" because "now it appears Obama will be the nominee.." or waiting to see what the "winning side is" before they committ (this isnt a game ppl, its our livelyhood), are just plain cowards, and in my opinion their "endorsement" is worth nothing
i respect both candidates, i just wish ppl would know WHY they were supporting them, not just this person or that is winning..
our democratic "leaders" are a joke..just look at congress..what have they got done??
Bye Hilary........
"I'm so sick of the superdelegates switching sides before the nomination!
This Democrat will never support Obama!
Hillary is the only one who can get this country out of the mess we are in. But if I don't my 1st. choice. Guess I will be switching parties this election."
You're an idiot. And clearly not a Democrat.
It is wonderful to see democrats finally coming together to rally behind our soon to be nominee. I appreciate Hillary Clintons tenacity and strength, but it is time to prepare for a battle with the republicans.
There has to be a reason why other SD's are not backing Obama.
I do not buy the whole 'waiting until all the voters get a chance' thing.
They are up to something...
I love these so-called leaders who claim to stand on principle as they switch teams in the fourth quarter of the game.
Cardoza knows that Hillary Clinton is the better candidate and would be the better President.
What an opportunitist.
If the superdelegates want to do what's best for the Party, they should endorse the stronger candidate and make the voters understand that she is the better candidate.
Most of the people who are loudly and irrationally supporting Obama to become the nominee of the Democratic Party have never even heard of him before January 2008. They just want a candidate who makes them feel good and, as a result, they project onto this unknown candidate all their hopes and reject any information about him that reveals either A) that he’s not what they thought he was, or B) that he can’t win in the general election.
Hillary's supporters may not be as loud and irrational as Barack's fans, but we are more numerous and more loyal to her than these superdelegates realize.
HILLARY CLINTON '08
When will CNN post my comments!
Great job Supers! Now it's time for your brothers and sisters to join you in supporting Obama. It's time to focus on beating the "Old Grumpy Man."
Hillary wants to count Florida & Michigan votes but then refuses to count the caucus votes in her convoluted logic to justify her claimed lead in popular votes. Yep, argue against disenfranchising Florida & Michigan voters while at the same time arguing for disenfranchising of caucus voters!
Hillary must believe that we are all a bunch of morons!
Jaci i can give you lots of reasons not to vote or Obama
Maybe they should check the Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania polls because Obama is not going to win in the electoral college with states supporting him in the primary elections. Obama has a steep hill to climb if he wants those votes. And, for me, his wife has some image control because I don't want a first lady who thinks we are all mean. She has had a better life in her 45 years than I have had in my 68. I was originally taken by Senator Obama but I have found he is just another politician and, for me, not as ready to be president as Senator Hillary Clinton. Also, women don't care for Sen. Obama's "you're likeable enough" and "Sweetie" comments.
Dream Ticket?
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Voting for the IRAQ WAR, then refusing to apologize for it; 20 to 30 million supporters
Playing the "RACE CARD", then refusing to reject race-based votes; 95% of African American voters
Making shell-shocked decisions after suffering heavy Bosnian sniper-fire; A campaign debt approaching $50 million dollars
Destroying the Democratic Party with scorched-earth politics; a once glorious legacy TRASHED
The expression on Hillary Clinton's face after conceding on June 4th; Priceless!
– Steve Ford
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Who the heck cares! We are going with the VOTERS only.....
if it is NOT Clinton, sorry CNN and Obama, you lose your ratings and your electability are pi*s poor!
Clinton or Mc Cain in 08
This is why the youth are voting for Obama so overwhelmingly because Clinton will do anything to win. Florida and Michigan both knew the consequences of their actions before they decided not to abide by the rules. Furthermore, the ones that are pushing for the Florida and Michigan vote to count, what example are you setting for the youth of America. You are telling the youth that it is OK to break the rules if it is to your advantage. The youth of this nation are smarter than most adults realize. They (the youth) can tell when you are being hypocritical, or truthful. The youth of America seems to be more honest than the adults. The adults can learn from the youth and stick to what was established and agreed to before hand. If you show the youth how to circumvent the rules and laws than you cannot become angry when they (the youth) do so because they are only learning from the adults’ example.
Basically, Clinton is trying to breach a contract and if the adults who supports Florida and Michigan (being seated the way they are) they have no right to ever chastise a youth when they flaunt the rules and laws. This is not the example I would want any youth to learn. Maybe society needs to stop saying grow up and start saying revert back to being a youth. The supporters of this breach of contract has no leg to stand on (if it were a court of law) and the youth see this overwhelmingly. Go head and look the youth in the eye and explain why you support breaching the contract and they will no longer respect you because they can look through your hypocrisy.
Isn't it funny that MOST McCain supporters always have something negative to personally say about Obama, Obama supporters keep taking THE high road and not fall for what seems to be insecurity of their NOMINEE of McCain, me personally have nothing negative to say about McCain, he is defintely a war hero, but feel he will NOT be the best person to take OUR country into a new direction. This country needs healing and RACE is at the center core. With off base reference to ObamaOsama is another example of how narrow minded some people are. Pray for all Americans and once and for all bring ALL people together no matter what affiliation.
So FL and MI have the RIGHT to be seated but Hillary Clinton ignores the RIGHTS of all the Caucus states to support her ridiculous popular vote argument. Clinton has the RIGHT to stay in the race but Senator Obama does not have the RIGHT to select his own VP. (Come on people. There is no mathematical way for her to win the nomination. She is trying to force herself into the VP slot). This is not about anybody's rights it is about selfishness. Think about all the people who can not take 4 years of Republican policies when you deliberately attempt to destroy our party. People are losing their homes and children are losing their lives. You remember that!
I have already put the Obama campaign on notice that they will lose my support if Hillary Clinton is offered the VP spot. Right now, Bill Clinton and Hillary aren't trying to blackmail Barack into a co-presidency. I really want him to have the opportunity to change the politics of Washington. I believe he can do it and a new leadership will spring from the Democratic Party. It's time to put these old party Dems out to pasture if they can't be unselfish enough to make room for a few new fresh faces with new fresh ideas about how this country should be governed. If he has Hillary on his ticket... he won't get anything accomplished and his White House will be filled with scandal from Bill Clinton whoring around. Do you doubt it?
It's all over now.. say bye bye Hillary.. no VP for you either!
Is Hillary really defending democracy by trying to get the Florida delegates seated... or promoting oligarchy?
See more on YouTube
Search: Hillary Clinton Vs. Democracy
Words you need to know:
Oligarchy-rule by "A" few (and their interest)
Democracy- rule by "THE" majority (and majority interest)
It is time that super deligates put a stop to this on going war and greed by one candidate. I hope others will follow and bring an end to all of this. Let us unite around one candidate and concentrate on the election ahead and John Mc Cain. Thanks for the sopport keep them coming.
Changing the rule now is
meaningless.
The people have spoken.
The nomination is about to be official.
wow, the superdelegates are blind. polls have consistently shown hillary beating mccain, especially in an electoral match-up, and obama losing to mccain. she has had several blow out victories which shown there are a lot of people not willing to get behind him.
when all is said and done she will be tied up with him in popular vote and will have closed the gap significantly in delegates, so it is all superdelegates.
I am glad to see that there is a slow but constant move (delegates) to unite this party and begin preparing for the GE. We can not lose this election because of personal selfishness. I hope to see more of these types of decisions being made: Those which are best for the Party.
This election MUST result in a Democratic Victory!!!
No more Bush Politics!
what pathetic losers..it took them this long to decide who to back? they just wanted to make sure they were backing the winning candidate.
Obama supporters, let's be positive and not attack anyone. Especially Senator Clinton supporters.
Recognize the following:
Michigan – McCain may be damaged there with a sizeable Muslim population (after the Parsley comments)
Pennsylvania – with a strong Dem presence in Pennsylvania, Obama should lock that state down
Florida – and with Hagee's comment about Hitler's hunting, Florida may be a battleground (and the fact that a lot of newly registered Dems are coming into the process in Florida).
So, Obama keeps the other traditional Dem states and tacks on Virginia, he wins in November. And ALL the Dems – from Biden, Dodd, Edwards, Gravel, Kucinich, Richardson to of course Senator Clinton will win with their agenda.
Clinton supporters, she's coming to the realization that she probably can't get the nomination this time (for whatever reason). When she then pivots towards Obama's campaign full throttle, I pray that you too will recognize what is at stake this year (and with 2 or 3 Supreme Court judges) for the next 30-40 years.
God Bless you all and may you have a wonderfully memorable Memorial weekend.
Smart not too change rules. Why did the Clintons not say anything while the rules was made?
And switching parties because clinton is losing??????
THEN YOU ARE NOT REALLY A DEMOCRATE.....TOTAL DIFFERENT VIEWs ON HOW TO RUN THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!! Wake up!!
Yippeee.. !!!
Another Happy Day for Obama and Supporters. Thank you.
It is time for Hillary to stop living in denial and gracefully bow out. If she continues to life in her fairyland world and deny the math, she will only hurt Obama and the Democrats in the next election.
I wish HRC would end this farce. She is totally wrong in what she is doing. Her campaign was outplayed and there was no game plan after Super Tuesday. This was an unexpected move by Obama. He is the better candidate and has proven it time and time again. Sometimes life throws you a curve ball. HRC needs to readjust and look at this experience as a learning experience. This is a new day and new age. People want change. Out with the old and in with the New.
Yes, Senator Obama is new in Washington, but he is not new in politics. However, he brings fresh ideas. Believe it or not with him as our next President I feel that America will begin some healing process with alot of our world leaders. Other countries are watching and have been waiting to see when America was going to change.
My last thought, Fl/MI were aware of the rules. The problem is that they are upset that the rules were enforced. There are bloggers on here who want to blame Obama, however he played by the rules that were handed to him at the beginning of the game. Not once has he deviated from them. If anything, he did try to compromise and is trying to help w/a decision that will be good for both he and HRC. The problem I see with HRC supporters is that they feel that Senator Obama should cave into her and let her have her way. But didn't she want to be an equal player?
sorry but i think that any hillary supporter (that is a democrat and not simply someone crossing over to vote for a woman) who would vote for McCain vs Obama is stupid!!!!! (or worse)
Wow. Wright preaches social injustice. These guys preach pure hate. But every individual who will not vote for Obama, yes because he's black, not because of inexperience etc., will sound like a Hannity/Limbaugh clone and say he wasn't there for twenty years! McCain himself said that Hagee and Parsley are great men. That says it all. McCain is doing this now because he doesn't want to go through what Obama had to go through with Wright. I have to agree with the amerikkka comment meant because it is being proven to me right in front of my eyes. Amazing!
The DNC has failed many of the people it represents. To put up a racist, antisemitic, sexist, empty preppy suit is going to come back to haunt them. This is just like 1968 Chicago DNC convention. One candidate ahead, but because of the people (remember the people?) there were riots in the street. Read history then read the news. The DNC lost it that year too, to Nixon.
The trouble with cults is you forget history.
We need Change for the old way of doing things.
Gas is expensive.
My cousing Johnny is in Iraq and we want him and all of our guys back.
Ive been blessed to keep my job but some of my family members lost there jobs and others have low paying temp jobs. Sad
We cant afford to have a republican in office. EVERYONE must vote and must vote smart. I have voters who will vote ther other way because... well just vote, enough said
Why areyou very much in a haste?As you were posting this in the blog many more are coming.
It's time for Hillary to let the world know what she is looking for or else she will lose everything by the time she comes out of the trance.
Interesting how delegates who switch to Obama instantly become "loosers" (sic) to some commentors. When Hillary switches and becomes a supporter of his (as she has indicated she will), I suppose she will necessarily be branded a "loser" too. One thing for sure: McCain already is a loser and those democrats who pout and support him because their candidate lost will be the biggest losers of all.
What good is it going to do by the same one or two Hillary voters coming
on the blogs over and over again "threatening" to vote for McCain. That
is not going to change the fact that she lost. Like Hillary, you must have
been a republican in disguise all along. Spare the voters who don't
feel that way the trouble of having to listen to the few traitors of the democratic party, who like Hillary, are too contrite and contrary for their
OWN good.
Florida and Michigan broke the rules and knew the consequences. Hillary and Obama were aware that they would not count by doing so. Hillary needs to stick to her first decision of agreement. This only shows me that she would be wishy washy if president. She is only out there for herself and the power. She has lost but is hanging in there hoping to hurt Obama so she will have another chance in four years. If we broke the rules, we would go to jail. So the delegates should not put themselves above "we the people" and should be treated the same as us.
Hillary would not have gotten a lot of her votes if Rush had not stuck his nose into the mess. The whole thing is a bunch of crap and needs to end. The superdelegates need to get off their rear ends and end this now. By letting this go as far as it has, it only goes to show us what idiots we have in power.
Say goodnight, Hillary! Maybe you'll get your chance in 2016!! Please GO AWAY until then!!
No Dream Ticket.
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There's a list of dead people who've had ties to the Clintons or crossed them ( just google friends of clintons). I'm concerned about Sen Obama's safety, I hope he is too.
Here we go again, another backstabber. I hope you people get Obama as your nominee and he loses to McCain in November nobody blames Clinton. You backstabbers and Obama supporters would have made it impossible for the democrats to win the presidency. Everybody knows that Clinton is the stronger candidate and should be nominated the winner. If the caususes had been primary elections, Clinton would have won and would definitely have the most delegates and also the popular votes. This ancient process should be totally eliminated and get back into 21st century.
When everything backfires against the democrats in November and McCain wins, it would be because you voters are not choosing the better candidate so you will have to live another 4 years with a republican president. Anyway, I still think Clinton would win the presidency for the democrats but it seems that they want to lose by going with Obama.
Its Memorial day , are you guys enjoying the tax holiday that Hilary and Mccain promised for this summer?
Enough Said.
Obama will loose big in November. Clinton is the best chance.
Obama should run as VP, get some experience and then run for president. Otherwise, we will all suffer under McCain.
SUPs...Please look at the exit polls for Clinton v. McCain and Obama v. McCain before you endorse. Do you want the third consecutive Republican term? If so, keep endorsing Obama.
I think that being elected to an office should disqualify you from being a Superdelegate, you choose to please your constiuency rather than choose the best qualified canditate, case in point Barrack Obama is leading in this catagory. I think Superdelegates should be chosen by the voting years that you have been loyal the Democratic Party. A lot can be learned from the elders of our native American Tribes that we chased from their land.
Obama/Bloomberg.
Obama/Jim Webb
08&12
President Obama!!We should ALL practice saying this..
Clinton loses in June, Obama loses in November...it's a good year.
Two more from New Hampshire were just reported plus a new poll shows Obama ahead of McBush in Ohio. Give irt up already Hillery
OBAMA/HAGEL 2008
Thank you California for breaking the log jam!
And to the remaining 12 CA SDs – it's time to come on-board.
OBAMA/WEBB 08
Good Cardoza,
superdelegates need to end this very soon by coming out and support OBAMA Hillary will shutup!!!!
I'm Hillary supporter but, by the way Hillary is talking I hate to say I will not support her again. She needs to drop out and support Obama now.
I will not even support Obama to chose her as his VP. Bill and Hillary is very wicked.
Bill Clinton said his daughter will be going into politice soon.
USA are tired of BUSH/CLITON. I will vote for OBAMA now.
Hillary do your party a favour and just drop out please. Who is going to pay all your debit. I will not give you any money again is a wast.
Senator Clinton is not paying attention, Senator obama has said several times that this election is not about any of the presidential candidates. It is about AMERICANS- Whites, Blacks, Spanish, Old Young...everybody. Clintons has already made their name. It is time all democrats should come together and clean up Bush mesh to the system.
Good for Sen. Obama! Its obvious to most that he is the nominee. We, the people, have spoken and chosen.
Now, we need to all pull together to elect Sen. Obama. We must set aside the attacks, egos and come together for the sake of our country.
As a registered Independent, I urge all Democrats to find common ground and unite.
PLEASE people, we can not continue to accrue debt, ITS $10 TRILLION AND COUNTING!
We can not afford to continue to fight in Iraq, while allowing Bin Laden to go free.
We can not allow more young people to die for a war that was started with LIES! Think of those who are maimed, who commit suicide....... our troops need us to return them to their families. Let's fight against terror ........ but put an end to the war that IS BANKRUPTING OUR NATION!
We CAN NOT return the Republicans to the White house!
Let's come together, joined in an effort to turn the page, to move towards a SANER future where our people do not go bankrupt because of medical debt; where everyone has healthcare; where each of us is valued...... not just the religious, or the ultra-patriotic.
A future in which we are the UNITED states, no longer red or blue......but AMERICANS WORKING FOR THE GOOD OF OUR NATION!
How can you vote for McCain when Hillary and McCain's policies are so different? At least Obama and Clinton have relatively simple plans to do what's best for this country! How dare you democrats say that you would vote for McCain.
At this point does it really matter? I mean 100 supers could swing sen obamas way today and hrc will still find some reason to say why she is the best candidate even tho she is the only one who thinks so . I already see her taking this to the convetion and causing chaos but this time it will unify the party and energize sen obamas supporters
NEITHER STATE SHOULD BE SEATED BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE STATED RULES. THEY STUCK THEIR NOSES UP IN THE AIR AND SAID WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR OWN STATE AND TURNED THEIR BACK ON THE DNC AND THE RULES AND ESSENTIALLY SAID YOU CAN'T TOUCH US. WELL NOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN REPRIMANDED THEY ARE CRYING FOUL. TELL THEM TO CRY IN THEIR SOUP BECAUSE THEY, ( THE PEOPLE OF THEIR 2 STATES FL & MI ) SAID WE CAN OVERTURN THE DNC BECAUSE IT ISN'T FAIR WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO US. WELL TO TELL THE TRUTH IT IS NOT THE DNC'S FAULT IT IS THE GOV'T. OF THOSE 2 STATES' THAT ARE AT FAULT. IN NOV. THEY SHOULD VOTE THEM ALL OUT AND START WITH A FRESH NEW SET OF OFFICERS IN FL. & MI.. THEN THEY MIGHT GET IT RIGHT IN 2012.
Since Obama wants to "clean up" politics, why doesn't he start with his own democratic party? Why does the primary voting system rely on delegates rather than popular votes? And why involve super-delegates at all, are democratic voters too stupid to think for themselves? What's this business with "punishing" states for holding "early" primaries? That is preposterous to try to dictate policies to each state from the DNC - the DNC should be there to serve and facilitate, not to dictate by authoritarian rule.
He can't get it right as President until his party gets it right - by coming into the Millenium century as (1) transparent (2) empowerment of the people and (3) attitude of service, not superiority. This is the age of internet, where we get minute-by-minute news and every voter could vote online - why do we need delegates and superdelegates?
UPDATE our antiquated voting system: THAT should be Obama's first order of business as the President!
Like I said before....go home Hillary and bake some cookies for Bill...it's over.....if you behave from here on out....Mr. Obama might invite you to a State Dinner that will be held at the White House sometime in the near future and he might even let you fly in Air Force One up front...but if you keep acting like a spoil child...you will get another spanking.....
Go Obama!!!! Please no Obama-Clinton ticket.
What do you mean by may change? It was the same number before FL and MI and it shouldn't be different.
Excellent!
Who cares. Most of us who support Clinton, view those who are jumping ship as nothing more than mere parasites. As to changing the rules, who made up the stupid rule, it was not the voters of Michigan and Florida. Don't penalize the voter.
Let's unite folks. This thing is so over.
For the Hillary supporters who think Barack is the anti-christ – Are you believing that all of his supporters, all of his superdelegates, all of his endorsers (many of whom know him better than all of us) are simply being fooled by him?
Isn't that the arrogance you attack him for?
Why should Hillary supporters "rally around" Obama if he is the nominee? There are reasons why people choose to support one candidate over the other. If Hillary supporters do not believe in Obama then they should not feel in any way that they need to "rally around" him...just for the "sake of the party." I know that I won't. I will write-in the name of the best candidate: Hillary Clinton.
Sherri Jones,
You say that Hillary is the "ONLY ONE" then that must mean that "BUSH" was the "ONLY ONE" who could get this country moving but look at what happen.
Stop the hate and get on board if your a true demarcate.
The more Clinton and her campaign attempt to manipulate the rules the less electable she becomes. We've already had 8 years of a POTUS who manipulates the constitution (rules) to his advantage. We don't need another. Hopefully New York will show her the door from the Senate the next time around.
GREAT NEWS, ALL OTHERS SHOULD FOLLOW NOW TO END THIS DIVISIVENESS.
The party WILL NOT unite behind Obama!!!
GOODBYE Obama!! He will lose worse than McGovern!!!
LANDSIDE FOR McCAIN!!
People who are threatening to switch parties and vote for McCain if their favorite Democrat doesn't get the nomination are missing one very important point. This very long, ugly primary process has not been about issues. It has been about personality, race, gender, name, etc. When we do finally have a Democratic nominee, we all need to unite and realize once again that we have much more in common with either potential Dem nominee than we do McCain. I am a very strong Obama supporter, but if Hillary gets the nomination I will vote for her in November.
These threats of voting for McCain are childish and not at all logical. Think of the big picture. For many, many reasons I would rather have HIllary in the White House than McCain, even though Obama is my first choice.
Here's a scenario:
MI & FL delegates are seated according to Obama's wishes.
MI & FL voters aren't happy about being jerked around by Obama.
Obama loses MI & FL in the general election because he jerks voters around.
Obama loses election.
McCain becomes President of the United States.
Obama cries like a baby.
In other words, "Hillary, drop out now so the DNC can save face. Bull – they orchestrated this mess so they need to face the music.
Untrustworthy!
Your state overwhelmingly supported Mrs. Clinton, now you turn just because of who you believe is going to be the nominee?
Very unloyal!
I'm still voting for Clinton in Nov. as a write-in. The thing that makes no sense to me is that the Obama campaign had stated, when they were behind in delegates in Jan., that Supers should vote the way their states voted. Humm, so then all of these big states should have their supers vote for Clinton. Who's changing their tune now??
New rules or old rules, it comes down to the same thing: Who do Superdelegates vote for? They are the trusted politicians whose suppose to do the right thing, the smart thing. Right now Obama has the money from lobbyist, backed as he is by the old boy's network of the Democratic Party. In the end I cannot believe that it is in the self-interest of the rest of the Superdelegates to chance this election on Obama, who run a very superficial and negative campaign. That is why Hillary should stay in there, fight all the way to the convention, just like Obama-maker and mentor Ted Kennedy did in 1980. She has a lot less delegates to take back than he did.
Thanks superdelegates
Congratulations to Senator Obama. Let our party come together and would all bloggers please stop the hate comments.
These senators who leave Hillary and go to support Obama, don't actually believe that he is the stronger candidate to beat McCain in the fall. They just have to say so because it looks like Obama is going to be the nominee, and they want the part to unite.
In a primary race that is practically tied, where Obama barely skated through with the nomination, it's completely debatable who is going to actually be the stronger candidate against McCain. And quite frankly, if Obama loses the states he lost in the primary in the general election, he won't be our next president.
I absolutely love when people say that Obama is a "looser"!
Bwahahahahaha
I think that article and the reasons for coming together are a lot of bull. I think you will have to seat the Florida delegates because a Republican gov. and legislature made the rule not the people of the state and just as Florida played dirty in 2000 they are trying to play dirty again – the people did not ask to move the primary. If ypu dont handle this matter in the honest and best way you are going to have a lot of people change their vote to the Republicans or not vote at all. You have a lot of women involved in this election and they want justice.
Ed and all other Obama nay-wishers,
Obama supporters are realistic and we are from planet earth. We believe he can win in November just as you believe he can't win.
Bill Clinton said, "If someone tells you, you can't win, it's because they know you can.!""
Amen,
President Bill Clinton
Obama 2008
Please Senator Obama, don't offer VP slot to HRC.
You do not need the aggravation.
Sherri Jones says:
I'm so sick of the superdelegates switching sides before the nomination!
HAHAHAAHAHAA!! What are you smoking?? Superdelagates are the ones who need to vote in order to have a nominee. You must be a republican cause u talk like G.W.Bush.
Not over but inching oh so close!!!
Obama/Sebelius '08
Thank you, guys so much. Now can someone tell the Clinton's it's over it's time to get ready for the convention. If, she really wants what best for the United States of America she will get ready for the convention with Obama....as a supporter of his. It's not saying she is a strong women to continue in the race, it's say she is not really for the Demorcratices at all. I'm ready for CHANGE....I really can't take 4 more years, of the last 8.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TALK TO HER AND MADE HER UNDERSTAND IT'S OVER. IF YOU REALLY LOVE THE AMERICAN PLEOPLE LIKE YOU SAY YOU DO. You'll work with Obama so we can have some PEACE.
OBAMA is going to get whooped in Florida! You could have had this Democrats...you did this to yourself asking for change...at $4.00 a gallon, just change isn't going to cut it...YOU NEED SOLUTIONS!
WRITE IN HILLARY CLINTON IN NOVEMBER IN FLORIDA! -27 Electoral Votes
Wow, those super delegates must really want a republican in office for 4 more years...
Democrats who are sore losers and wont vote for Obama. Vote on the issues not cause your nominee did not fair well. If you think McBush supports your issues and you like 5$ gat minus the 18 cents for a couple of months then by all means go ahead and vote for McBush. Just vote based on the issues not cause you are a sore loser.
In actuality is doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. You can't change the game rules in the 9th inning. Mr. Obama you have won the nominee, congratulations. Formulate a plan to win the general elections. For those of you that voted for Mr. Bush the Waste, the 1st then the 2nd time, should we listen to you go for the hat trick of stupidity by going for McAnotherBush! Those who vote for this clone must have short term memory less (pun intended). This is the guy who said we are better off now economically than 7 years ago. Check out his flip flops on youtube. It is a pleasure to see. Straight talk, nah, where I come from, that's called bull _ _ _ _. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out either.
Good for them ! Finally, superdelegates are taking rfurther steps to end this race and start looking and uniting us for the general election.
I was a Hillary supporter and now Obama
GO OBAMA!!!!!
Hillary folks voting for McCain......That will show them! High gas, staying in Iraq, that will teach them that they should have voted for your candidate! You show them. But remember if you did one grave, you better dig two because you're going down with the rest of them.
No Hate in 08.
Sherri ..poor you, even the Clintons will support Obama in 2 weeks time....and we all know you are not a Democrat..so stop pretending and get a life!!
Hillary is now running for VP and not president , that is her only chance of becoming a president ..wait for Obama to serve 2 terms or poison him at a dinner!
This is insane for those who want the Dems to win in November!
Superdelegates wake up! If you give the Dems another Dukakis or Kerry, the Republicans will be right back in the White House!
Obama cannot win because he has too many handicaps if you look at the primary results, the polls this week showing him losing in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania against McCain but Hillary beats McCain in all of these States!
HILLARY HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND TO LEAD AND OBAMA DOES NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary Clinton (Oligarchy) Vs. Democracy
Wow, what's the plurar for Judas???? ON TO THE WHITE HOUSE without them. My whole rib cage is aching from laughing...They are so sexist all of them..the voters, the media and the Supers!!!!The only sane person I can count on is Geraldine Ferraro!!!!If only we had MORE ignorant people in this country I'd be way ahead!!!!
Clearly, the STRONGEST candidate is simply NOT Senator Obama; it is comforting to note that the Democrats have, once again, failed to learn any lesson from history, and will lose still another election...
Do you think maybe our government will do the right thing for once and make Florida and Michigan and the Lady in the pant suit follow the rules set forth? You can bet your butt that if this were reversed. Hillary would do everything in her power to stop it. I hope all the Obama supporters are ready to converge on Washington if Hillary gets her whiney way.
This is a plea to all of the Hillary supporters who will vote MCcain if HRC looses the nomination. Please rethink your decision. Our country is suffering tremendously. We are not respected around the world. The Saudis laughed in our President's face when he begged for more oil..I am paying just under $4.00/gallon for gas.. don't know about you but that is what I am paying. Foreclosures are at an all time high in my city. Don't know about your town but houses are going belly up near me.
SO RETHINK YOUR DECISION! Get over the bull.. focus on the issueS. VOTE OBAMA!
Obama all the way to the White House! And to Sherri Jones and other defectors, we don't need you, and don't let the door hit you on your way out.
The so called Super Delegates has stream rolled this primary process and has given the nomination to Senator Obama as if he is entitled.
Why could they not allow the primary to be completed then support your candiate? I am a democrat and may not vote in the general election.
To MI and FL voters who feel like the DNC is disenfranchising you:
Do not blame Howard Dean, or Barack Obama, or the "anti-Hillary" media. The only people you can blame for this is your state's democratic party members who broke the rules, knowing that doing so would nullify your votes. Don't forget that. Your OWN STATE'S party leaders disenfranchised you. So be angry, yes, but not at the DNC. We have entered a contest with clearly established rules, one that all candidates involved agreed to, therefore the contest must finish under the same rules it started with. Seating the delegates as is would be malarkey. HRC knows it just as well as BO. So if you don't want this to happen again in the future, punish your state party, not the national party. We're all losers if McCain gets elected.
One step closer
I'm leaving the party and going "Independent"
Not because of Hillary or Obama but because the PARTY has turned it's back on the people. Also the attitude and infighting among people these days is sad. Just look at the Obama posters mocking Hillary and vice versa. SAD!
Jaci, I agree with you. Anytime I point out Obama's record, they come back with a " I still won't vote for him". If leads me to believe that they are not really democratic, because if it was because on the fact and what they have done in office they voted the same 90% of the time.
Thank you to the superdelegates, because they are the only ones that can now put an end to this and let Obama offically begin his general election plans.
I find offensive when people write that those following Obama are as Disciples, that word in itsef is meant in reference of Christ followers, and for those of us that are believers we certainy don't agree with you persepctive on that. With that said, I do believe God inspires people to do his will on this earth, and I personally feel that Obama is chosen , probably initally unknown to him, by God to lead this Nation back to God, under the laws of God from which our constitution was formed, and once again restore the value of each human life in this courtry and throughout the world. I think it shows great insight for the super delegates to weigh all this and then give their support to Obama, as i understand this is not done lightly. I aso think Sen. Clinton will also join in this journey as well, in humbleness and respect.
and two of Edwards' delegates from New Hampshire.
Obama needs only 57 delegates for the nomination.
Jaci,
As is true with the vast majority of Obama fans, you're obviously not paying very close attention.
Hillary Clinton is more experienced and has been more effective than Barack Obama. He is too far to the left for many Democrats, and John McCain is much closer to the center than is Barack Obama. That's why many "bitter" Democrats in rural America, who would otherwise be happy to vote for Hillary Clinton, will vote for McCain over Obama.
Besides, the truth is that Obama and his fans have been infinitely more insulting to Hillary Clinton in their public statements than has Hillary or her supporters to him. His constant negativity toward her on the trail up until the Pennsylvania primary was just way under-reported and -discussed by the pundits.
You ask us for specific reasons not to vote for Obama? Can you give any specific reasons why we should vote for him? Had you even heard of him before January '08?
HILLARY CLINTON '08
ha ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha
how many superdelegates have switched from obama to clinton?NONE
how many superdelegates have swithed from hillbilly to obama?ALL
ha ha ha ha ha
and a million more ha's
This is beyond ridiculous. Democrats needs to get behind one candidate and someone needs to give in for the good of the party and our country. Do we really want a Republican in office to continue the war in Iraq? Or work for the rich to get richer while the poor get poorer? Come on Ms Clinton – give up already!!!
Go Obama..................
It's one thing to fight a good fight and another to continue to beat a dead
horse. Clinton is sounding more like Bush who insists to "stay the course" even if it is causing a global disaster.
Anyone who earns less than $200,000 a year and votes for McCain is voting against their own interests.
I find it so funny that hillary supporters still believe obama is stealing the nomination from her.
Wow!! What an endorsement........accepting the inevitable just for the sake of the party! Of course, there are future favors and ambitions to consider, too..........
LMAO!!!!
I hope all you sheep grew a good coat last winter........Shearing time is getting near!
Hey Fred, if men were thinking with their male hormone, wouldn't we be going for a woman instead of a man????
obama i love u and u will make it dont be afraid FLORIDA is behind u ,we all love u and we are praying hard for u we all also have a plan too for the hillary u no u thought us not to talk has u use to do u hardly coment about the way ur oponent treats u dont worry if its not u then its no to hilary we are many now and more people are sighning on so dont worry they think they have a plan for the convention we too are on standBY we rather scatter it all.OBAMA 4 PRESIDENT.
Okay! Lets go Obama. Let Hillary go back to Arkansas and praise LBJ for cilvil rights instead of MLK. That lady is a joke!
Obama/anybody but her! 08
p.s. go vote for McCain crybabies....hahaha.......roflmao
Come on Superdelegates!!!! Everyone jump on board and do the same. Hillary needs to realize she agreed to these rules a long time ago when she was the huge front runner. SHE AGREED AND SIGNED that Florida and Michigan broke the rules! Now, she wants to change the rules to suit her. She doesn't care anything about Democracy or making sure every vote counts. If the roles were reveresed and she was in Obama's shoes, do you think she would still want the FL and MI delegates seated???????
OBAMA 08!!!!!!!
It is very clear the hard place the SG's are in. They call know they are in a no win situation. Hillary is the more electable as shown in the recent polling where she leads McCain by significant margins in states vital for electoral count. The SG's would like to get behind the candidate who will win for certain, Hillary, but know that we would potentially have uncivil rioting and unrest should they do so. So, they will eventually go with Obama and use his own words by "hoping" he wins as he does have a chance but not certainty like Clinton.
The DNC has screwed up once again and the dems will pay the price in November. Of course, Hillary will be blamed but I believe reasonable minds know exactly what happened.
I intend to remain supportive of the stronger candidate, Hillary, and will vote for McCain simply to keep with my own convictions for what and who is best for this great country.
McCain '08 for Clinton '12
I agree with An Independent Hillary that the two party system should end. People should vote on issues which don't need to be aligned with some party rhetoric. Candidates could be pro life, and still pro environment, pro equal rights and pro less taxes. People are smart enought to determine what issues they support.
However, I do not think Hillary should run as an independent. She would not win and I don't think any one candidate would get the majority. Furthermore she is so similar to the democrats and Obama on the issues there is no reason for her to do that other than spite. If she really cares about all the things she says she stands for she can push and accomplish them with Obama and the Democrats. I really don't understand this anti Obama sentiment of the Hillary supporters- does that make me naive?. He didn't wrong her in any way- he just ran a better campaign.
I got this in my RSS feed...
Mississippi Democratic Party Chairman Endorses Obama; Delegate Countdown – 61 To Go *Chicago**, IL** –* Today, Mississippi Democratic Party Chair, Superdelegate and former United States Congressman Wayne Dowdy endorsed Barack Obama. Dowdy is the 308.5th superdelegate to endorse Obama. Obama is now 61 delegates away from securing ...
Anericans are known for fair play and I am aghast that any candidate aspiring for the highest office of the land would argue in a way that demeans the two most cherished qualities of leadership; morals and ethics.
Also, those who say that they would vote for McCain ARE NOT real Democrats.
Obama is unelectable!
All are Welome and Moving on!
First of all – what kind of President do we want?
Someone who can run a campaign in the RED?
I hate this stupid party!! This is so stupid!!! These are the educated elite? I am so over this. LOU DOBBS, I am proud to be an INDEPENDENT now!!! I'm so angry with this foolish, foolish process. Way to go guys. It's 2008 and this is the best we can do? Sick.
Jaci, I for one think Clinton has a better healthcare plan, which is the biggest most important issue for me. I also like Clintons idea for gas, even if it doesnt work, or works short term... with the summer coming up even a short term fix is good enough for me. Obama says it won't work, fine, how about saying what WILL work then?
And again, he can not beat McCain in a national election, he can't get the big swing states. And as much as he may be leading against a McCain showdown in the polls... what actually happens will be a MUCH different story.
Actually, Obama picked up 4 supers this morning...two from California, two from New Hampshire.
57 delegates to go!!!!
As with others, Welcome. Your support is at the right place. One more thing – i couldn't agree any more with you that the rules cannot be changed in the fourth quarter. It looks as though Sen. Clinton is fighting a loosing war and in a very bad way at that. First, Iowa didn't mean much to her after she lost. Next, she agreed with other candidates and the DNC to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegate votes. Then she goes back and campaign in those states, put her name on the ballot, and by the contrary to the agreement of the candidates. She wins a basically uncontested election and when the race became tight, she wants the result of her single-candidate context to count and count fully. She must be thinking that Democratic presidency is a birth right. By the way, why is that no one is yet to tell her that going back to context in a place that they all agreed should not count calls to her credibility to stand to the terms of agreements and the ability to stand firm? How do we trust that next time, she will stick to any agreement that she enters into?
A good majority of the people that voted for her in KY agrees that her attacks are unfair and most probably, unwarranted. It appears to me that she does not know how to quit, and you the press can do us all a favor by calling her campaign to tell them how she can do just that.
Funny, every state that she wins is the state that counts most and which Democrats must win to win the presidency in the fall. That is old politics and runs contrary to the spirit of change that voters want. Basically every state in this election is up for grabs – the voters want to discuss issues – stop polarizing this by telling us which state a democrat must win to win the general election.
Funny: When was the last time a democratic candidate defeated a republican in white votes? Even the lovable Bill did not win the majority of the white votes for his presidency.
ENOUGH AND LET'S JUST MOVE ON AS DEMOCRATS. BE A GOOD SPORT AND CONCEDE SO THAT WE ALL GET ON BOARD WITH UNITED AGENDA AND PLAN FOR THE FALL.
Zoiks! Another defector. Clintonites are sure to declare him a Judas.
Loyalty is a sad thing in politics. It's a less effective way to operate. Just look at the Bush administration, where the metric for every appointee is loyalty and not competence (the so-called "Aggie Network" at work). It's important in family and friendships, but politics and governance have to be about judgment and principle. Sorry Clintonites, but I have to say, Cardoza is doing the right thing.
Jaci, you won't find one other than what you mentioned and the rants of rabid feminists who'd take Bonnie Parker over any male. It's sick! Hopefully, the "drip, drip" of Supers will continue until even Clinton can't fib about the math any longer. Oh, and how about the past due payables to all those vendors and suppliers. Clinton stiffs again.
Obama/Bloomberg.
Obama/Jim Webb
Obama/Hagel
08&12
I have the perfect idea for Obama's VP pick! It boils down to this – Obama wants to pick up Hillary's supporters, without having the baggage of Hillary herself working with him. He needs someone that Hillary's supporters would rally behind. So here's my pick – Geraldine Ferraro. Think about it – she has experience running as a VP, and all of Hillary's supporters would rally behind her finally getting the chance to be the first female VP. If he could get Ferraro out campaigning for him, there'd be no stopping thei ticket. Let's go!
Obama/Ferraro '08
R.I.P.
Clinton is a brilliant woman, and is well qualified to be president, but conveiniantly defending the voting rights of FL and MI isn't very impressive. Obama, Clinton, Edwards, and the other Democratic candidates at the time should have fought against the DNC ruling, yet none did. A damaging mistake in an easy year for the Democrats.
Democrats 08. Spitefully voting for McCain is foolish, and it definitely won't hurt the candidate you don't support. If they lose, they'll go back to being a rich politician. I doubt you'll be so lucky.
Obama is all talk, he might have ideas but hasn't said how he is going to get any of it done, he has flip flopped on his foreign policy, his Health care policy is lacking, he has been a chair of a committee that hasn't held on important meeting since he has been running it, where is his economic policy and how is he going to get it done, he hasn't said facts only ideas, I like ideas but right now we need facts, he has a lot more against him I could go on forever and I do know Hillary isn't everything but she is much more and she will fight for you and me
Democats for Clinton or McCaine 08
Eric – One would think that John McCain would have faced some tough decisions as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for 5 years.
Or as a fighter pilot.
Or as a fighter pilot who had to extricate himself from a burning jet on an aircraft carrier.
Sounds pretty weak, huh?
Obama whines about not getting to eat his waffle in peace. Get real.
To all those people who think that FL and MI voters were disenfranchised by the DNC: Do you think your vote will count in November if you vote before the polls open? I think not – disenfranchisement has to do with valid votes not being counted. The debacle is FL and MI is different, it has to do with in-valid votes not being counted.
Greg- McCain won't walk freely into the white house- he will go because you vote for him. Everyone knows that Clinton and Obama almost mirror each other on the issues. If he cannot get the white vote then why is he currently leading the race? There are states where Clinton would did better and there are also states where Obama did better...So don't buy in to the hype that white voters won't vote for him. We will and we have. If it's the issues you care about- Clinton and Obama are the same. If you are disgruntled because your (or my) candidate does not get the nomination I don't see how you could just throw the issues out of the window and vote for someone who's stand on the issues is the polar opposite of these two candidates.
It makes me think you are more concerned about the person than the principles.
YEA! OBAMA '08
I'm thinking to myself whether Obama would have been so conniving and so indulgent as to collude, fraudulently disrupt, split, knowingly overlook and wrongly oppose the rules that members of her own staff helped design for the DNC.
This is calculating contempt of the highest order and the Clinton camp should know better... This is what happens when you underestimate the size of your competition... Locally, Nationally and Globally... You get BEAT!.. There's never a graceful way to surrender!..
woowho!!!! Make that 4 new supedelegates! 57 to more to go!
its all about RACE, and joining the side that shows some hope for change, is it worth taking risk at these times.
But, millions of votes casted for Clinton aren't fake.
Had it been not been his color, Obama wouldn't be standing where he is today. Thats' a fact.
If you are going to take the time to post vitriol about the democratic nominee and how you will never vote for "Obummer" then you are probably to far gone to actually come around and help us take back the whitehouse.
So we who are rational and want change and would vote for WHOEVER wins the dem nomination should not waste time trying to convince you. You are free to join crazy ferraro and vote for McCain.
But don't worry, while we govern we will be gracious enough to include you in all the good things that come of our presidency.
Cheers
We the PEOPLE. – )*
To Greg: You have just revealed your true identity along with a lot of other people who are writing in. You stated that white people would not vote for Senator Obama. (racism) I don't know how you could say this for the many years that black people have only had one race to choose from for president, senator, and other elected offices. Get over the race issue before you destroy the country.
JOHN MCCAINBUSH, WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES YOU THINK YOU SEEN THE EFFECTS OF THE RICH GET RICH AND THE POOR GET POOR YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING YET. I BET $10,000 JOHN MCCAIN WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT
SERIOUS INQUIRES ONLY
josh_anderson1985@yahoo.com
$10,000 on the line now!!!!!!!!
Another black guy for Obama.
A good reason not to vote for Obama:
He has not fulfilled his duties in the Senate to a degree in which I would vote for him for President. See oversight on Afghanistan. McCain...yes. He is a moderate who is pandering to conservatives now....he won't be that as a President.
I am a registered Democrat that has moderate views.
The "rules" aren't being changed in the fourth quarter. Hillary is playing by the rules and is bound by the rules just like everyone else. She is following the rules step by step by step. That's what the media and the B.O. lovers can't stand.
And I can't believe how childish Americans are being. Please raise the voting age to 50. Even though I'm 28, I am ashamed at the way people are acting. Grow up America.
I just wish the remaining superdelegates just hurry up and endorse Obama. The quicker this thing ends the better
Why in the world are so many Clinton supporters, supposed Democrats, so hostile towards Obama?
Is he not remarkably intelligent, noticeably even-keeled and reasonable, and exceptionally gifted at inspiring, uniting, and building consensus? Isn't that what we need???
If you're really a Democrat, and you insist on rejecting Obama through and through no matter what, either you aren't listening to a word the man says, or you don't like the color of his skin.
Every Obama supporter is a would-be Hillary supporter. I've always completely admired and respected the woman, and 8 years ago I was planning on volunteering and donating lots for her '04 or '08 campaign. But Obama is simply the far, far superior candidate. If you're really a Democrat and you can't see that, well, maybe you're not really a Democrat.
JOHN MCCAINBUSH WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES YOU THINK YOU SEEN THE EFFECTS OF THE RICH GET RICH AND THE POOR GET POOR YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHINH YET. I BET $10,000 JOHN MCCAIN WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT
SERIOUS INQUIRES ONLY
josh_anderson1985@yahoo.com
$10,000 on the line now!!!!!!!!
Im From Florida I voted I want my Vote to Count I am a Citizen of The USA and last time I looked all votes should count not a DNC rulling they are not the Goverment and the DNC and Howard Dean is destroying this country
typo – Hillary – 279- 2 = 277
"CONVOLUTDED"....lol, now that was funny!
I think the super delegates are joke. They are still looking for a Billary miracle!
Why are they still helping the situation worsening. It seems they don't think it is over for Billary otherwise they would finish this mess right now. Ok, Billary and her supporters are desperate and they will do anything to win, no matter what. Since they say it is Billary or McBush isn't this a sign of destruction of the party. So, shouldn't the remaining super delegates make up their minds?
What do we have left, Porto-rico, Montana and S. Dakota, they all know Billary will win Porto-rico but so what Porto-rico doesn't count in the general election anyway. How about the other two states Obama is favored to win them. NOW, the big question is why would you (super delegates) wait? Do you really care about the democratic party or still want a miracle for Billary to happen?
Aren't most of those remaining superdelegates from the states Obama won? Then why wait when you can start uniting the party and stop the free McBush ride?
Finish this mess now so you can solve Florida and Michigan issues right away!
Reverend Wright isn't a good reason?!?!?!? Seriously!?!?!?!?!?!? It doesn't disturb you that this guy was his advisor. That he went to his church for years, was married by him, etc etc etc. You honestly believe Obama is "appalled" by Wrights latest comments?!?!? You really believe he is surpised by them!?!?!?
Oh man I can't wait for the youtube videos of Obama on his feet clapping adn saying "THATS RIGHT, THATS RIGHT" during one of Reverent Wrights speeches in the past. You know the Republicans already have that video and are just waiting for him to get the official nomination before they bring it out. They want to make sure Clinton can't get that seat before releasing the video.
Hillary needs to stop the obvious play for the VP spot. Bill Clinton has also made it clear that is her goal now. Hillary and Bill cannot be let anywhere near an Obama Presidency as he will lose all credibility from Day one.
This whole dirty campagn by the clintons needs to be stopped, now we have lawsuits and this is just the beginning. They OWE too many people and will stop at nothing to get the power to pay them back.
I am Sorry Barack but if you let them pressure you to put her on your ticket I will have to walk away from you cause. I cannot back a team that will fail for sure. The Clintons will sabotage everything they can then run in 2012 citeing YOUR Failures.
Obama and Hillary are a team like Oil and Water and she is too centered on her own wants to work with ANYONE.
I MADE UP MY MIND LONG TIME AGO TO VOTE FOR HRC BUT CHANGED IT A SECOND AFTER I FOUND OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT HER BOSNIA TRIP. I SIMPLY COULD NOT ACCEPT HER ADMISSION SHE MADE A MISTAKE, SHE IS HUMAN AND SUCH. SHE WAS MATTER OF FACTLY, VERY VIVIDLY REMEMBERED THE SNIPER FIRE! I AM SORRY AM NOT VOTING THIS TIME.
FELLOW DEMOCRATS-We're close to taking back the White House. Dont' let the Republicans PIMP your vote!
With all of these Big-Wig supporters–why can he not get the nomination sewed up? Outspent, out-speeched, Hillary still has the ability to beat McCain and he does not-his only hope is for her support, yet he will not get the support of all of the people he insulted ....I believe the DNC has given up on this election and can only learn from their mistakes for the next. I hope John McCain wins and shows those arrogant, stubborn DNC people that the voters are the ones who elect a president–not political losers. Americans vote for the Patriotic and qualified John McCain!
the Superdelgets are all fraud they are part of the Dictatorship of Howard Dean the Dictator of the DNC he could not win last time so this is his revenge
Who does she think she is that she can change the rules? If she tries to do this before she is prez, just think what she'll try to do if the prez?
How can anyone support a person like this? Play by the rules. Don't cheat or cry about them.
Name one policy that you believe is worth throwing away all of the policy agreement between Obama and Clinton.
Even HRC is tell her supporters: support the Democrats.
McSame has only one road to the White House: for HRC supporters to sit this one out. If you want someone who has promised conservative judges, admits to not knowing much about economics and is unwilling to face the stupidity of getting involved with the Iraqi civil war, McCain is your man.
You are and never were a supporter when you turn coat and think
that another will win so best change your vote. Some of you who
are screaming at Florida and Michigan voters over what happened
to us, may you one day be in such a dilemma. We did not choose
this as individual voters, a handfull made that call. So you think that
all of us should be punished. You are so very warped in your thinking.
And don't go celebrating yet....Obama has not won the nomination and
he will not win the general election.....take that to the bank!
This isn't a contest to see who picks the winning Nominee. These cowards who switch loyalties from Hillary to Barak are simply jumping on the media bandwagon instead of standing by their convictions. A superdelegate that switches loyalties, will never get my vote again.
If Obama picks Hillary as VP, she will try to find some way to push him out and slide into the number one spot. She definately can't be trusted.
no matter what some racist people say about Obama, he will win this genereal election. down with racism in America. i am a white guy. i hate racism. there is no place for racism in America.
The fact remains that Obama is gona be the Dem Nominee. Democrats should put the primary campaign behind them and unite for the fall. Super delegates should End this conflict now!!!!!!!!!
Using Cardoza's words: “I will not support changing the rules in the fourth quarter of this contest through some convoluted DNC rules committee process. Changing the rules in the 4th quarter would cause a backlash for the DNC that would resound for years to come. Yes they need to seat the delegates, however they should not count in any way shape or form for or against the current DNC nomination process. That is just my opinion.
Has anyone noticed that the Obama lead in elected, pledged delegates has remained relatively constant since Feb. 5?
The lead has remained at roughly 140 delegates.
Well, since Florida did not recognize the vote that I cast for Hillary, and since 1.7 Million Democrats did go out and vote as this was the only day and chance we could, it just didnt count. Let's blame the people that are really responsible, and signed this into law. Charlie Christ. Our governor. Since they wont count my vote as a democrat, then I have no choice but to vote republican. At least I know when I vote it will count.
the problem with the USA now is the federal spending.
obama has said that he is just going to use the money from the way and divert it to domestic things this is going to mean you still have a huge deficit and in the time until the war is over and even bigger one.
this is going to force the dollar to remain low.
Welcome to the winning team!
Go away Hillary Clinton. We don't want your toxic campaigning anymore.
Obama will win as surly as the N.Y Giants beat the cheating Patriots.
I don't think the DEM party realizes how many prior supporters have changed their registration–because of the two socialist "no resume" candidates Dean and his cronies are promoting.
There needs to be a third party for all those Americans who still possess rational brain activity, common sense, and believe in the principles of our founding fathers.
I want to say to Barack Obama is to KIM IT!!!!!!!!
K. I. M=
KEEP IT MOVING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is clear that Hillary staying on the campaign trail is nothing more than political grand-standing for Chelsea at her supporters expense. She needs to give that little boy his $400 back. It's too bad her supporters didn't see her real reason when on numerous occasions the question was asked why she remained in the race knowing the numbers where totally against her. I sincerely believe Hillary will do anything and can't be trusted.
Hillary who?
Billary who?
to ObamaOsama above!
(Only the name you choose! Very poor!)
Obama will defeat McCain easely!
He is just starting his campaign and will reunite Democrats
(including Hillary Clinton) ,independents and lots of decent Republicans.
This world will cellebrate this new President of the USA.
His wind of change is around the whole world and so many
people are hopefull for a better world. We, here in Europe are
big Obama fans and he is very welcome in my country, the Netherlands.
And what will you have? A hart full off hate and anger.
And thats just what this world don't need , you cannot stay behind
because you already are in the same train to the future!'
You should be very greatfull!
With love from the Netherlands
Florida and Michigan state democrats broke the rules. They thought that because they are swing states that they could do whatever they wanted and believed it was a well calculated risk. They were wrong.
They DNC cannot backdown or every state (swing or otherwise) will be moving their primaries or caucuses before Xmas, with each one trying to out do the other. It would lead to chaos and a disaster for the nomination process.
However because of the fuss Hilary has made about this and also the the devisiveness she is causing in the party they will have to compromise (just not the way she wants- that will be her punishment for putting them in this situation in the first place ).
They only way out of this mess is to split all delegates 50-50, or strip both states of 50% of their delegates and then try and divide the remaining ones as they see fit.
Either way a punishment will have to be enforced if the DNC are to retain party discipline and authority, but maybe not as harshly as before with 100% stripping.
Hilary there is a thin line between being a die-hard fighter and a bully. You cannot bully your way to the nomination. If you wish to self-destruct then go ahead, because one way or another you are going to be out of the game. There are very few options left for you now because you have ticked off too many of your colleagues; even the senate will be a hostile environment for you for a very long time.
DEAD BEATS
HILLARY OR MCCAIN
Being a democrat who would have been fine with either Obama or Clinton, I have found Clinton's recent position regarding the Mich/Fla situation extremely disturbing. To me she is going outside the realm of reason to further her personal ambitions. It is extremely disappointing to watch such an intelligent woman make these disingenuous arguments. It feels a bit irrational.
I believe Cardoza is spot on when he says that it is time to unite the party and put an end to this. The other supers need to act now. To not do so is short sighted and a bit weak.
How can Hillary backers support their candidate wanting to change the rules because she's losing? If the situation were reversed, there's no way she'd want to seat Florida & Michigan. You really want someone who goes back & forth like that? You want someone who goes from saying "I have the blue collar, working, older WHITE people voting for me" to "There's been sexist behavior towards me". Excuse after excuse after excuse. She's staying in this race trying to come up with something to steal the nomination. The Supers are lining up behind Obama & it's obvious to see. She ran a decent campaign but she came up short. She underestimated Obama & then went negative & it didn't work. She never thought she'd lose Iowa, much less come in 3rd. She underestimated the American people. She thought the vast majority of the majority would never vote for a black person, and when they did she started catering to the group that she knew wouldn't vote for him, the older white people living in rural areas.
She's doesn't acknowledge the Hispanics anymore, a group she relentlessly went after here in Texas. Hillary's not stable enough to be a President. We've seen her emotions get the best of her on a number of occasions, & it's obvious that she has a serious problem with losing to a black person. You can tell in these moves of desperation. She should give it up, seriously.
Sweet! Please anyone but hillary as the vp
As a woman, I am disappointed by the emotional reaction of so many women now that Hillary will not be the nominee. It just reinforces the worst stereotypes of women that we are too emotional to make logical choices.
So because these Hillary supporting women are so "mad" and "angry" and "frustrated", they will consider voting Republican, instead of for the candidate (Obama) whose policy platform and plans for the country is almost identical to Hillary's.
Maybe as women, we are putting ourselves back about fifty years by acting so silly.
i am beginning to feel sorry for hillary.
but the attitude of her supporters make me happier that obama is kicking her old,pantsuit clad butt.
no sympathy for you,hillary
thanks to ur vile supporters
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Republican for Obama here.
McCain the king of flip flops.
People make sure you know what you are getting he has a long history of flopping.
The Superdelegates are doing more harm than good by going towards Barack. The party is doomed if he's the nominee. Obama is going to ruin this country even more just like Bush did.
What a go Superdelegates!!! Now if the other superdelegates would just get on board, Obama could concentrate his full attention on the general election. He needs this time to prepare.
Obama for President – Yes We Can!!!
The unelectable arguement is waining as well. New Surveyusa polls today in Obama v McCain:
Ohio: Obama – +9
Virginia: Obama – +7
Pennsylvana: Obama +8
Hey Heads Up: I have to agree with you, people who advocate voting for McCain if Hillary loses are likely Repubs anyway. No thinking Democrat would vote for 4 more years of the mess Bush has inflicted upon this country and which McCain will continue.
Gosh, I don't know who to vote for between Hillary and Obama. One person seems to know that the GOP is VERY afraid of Obama, but then another says that they are VERY afraid of Clinton. How did they get this information and who can I trust??? I need to put my own opinions aside and vote for who is most likely to win so I need to know. Please help!!!
We know that most of these politicians do not have the courage of their convictions but are only interested in their own reelections!
Billary has been moody, angry, weepy, mean, hostle, points to no one in the crowd every time with that fake smile and rambles on and on. hmmm......on one has suggested this ..but.....these are all the signs of going thru menopause....yes....menopause.....
Why on earth would we dare take a chance on someone where she would be so unstable and no one could stop her.....very scary!
It takes years for that to end.....we can't take that chance!!!
Whew! I feel as if I've already been through the general election because of Hillary. She played way more dirtier than the GOP will ever do. That's because they are smart enough not to wake the sleeping giant of race. If you want to go there, then go there, but it won't be pretty and Barack will come out on top. Most intelligent Americans no that race does not have a place in any election.
Obama 08
I wonder why all of these people that are crazy for Obama, don't remember that he would'nt take an oath of office on the Holy Bible. He insisted that he be allowed to take the oath on HIS bible...The Korhan..That my friends is the bible of ALL Musulims..Wake up America...We are going to be taken over by our oun faults...I'm really afraid for our country....
What happened if Senator Obama was in Mrs Clinton position: The DNC would tell him: Buddy its time to go. Why even look at the Rules when Both candidates signed the same agreements before going to that battle. This is insane. This need to stop. Democrats are so stupid: by saying that they will not vote for Sen. Obama if he is in fact the DNC nominee not Sen. Clinton. WOW!!! Go Democrat!!!! The Republicans are laughing out loud... I was Republican... Not anymore after I see the transparence & ability of Sen. Obama... Finally we the American people can have a REAL PRESIDENT that will listen and negotiate for peace instead of bully the world with our supremacy of weapons. I AM JEWISH AND I AM VOTING BIG TIME OBAMA... All who's talking about RACE, RELIGION.... Forget all that. I will go to every Temple and tell my friends to achieve REAL PEACE & SECURITY OF Israel there's only one man that can do it in our time. OBAMA... OBAMA.. OBAMA... He is real, fresh, young and ready.
Salomon
The movement continues.
There is plenty of room on the Obama Bus.
ALL ABOARD!!!!
Right choice, GO OBAMA
Obama will have the nomination. Everybody knows this (even Clinton). The superdelegates could and should come forward now as a group and end this fiasco. Then, the DNC could give in and seat the Michigan and Florida delegates to end this divisive and futile attempt by the Clinton campaign to give the general election to McBush.
I may also add, that after the biased media coverage (especially from the MSNBC pundits; Chris Matthews, and Keith Olbermann), derogatory statements, and insults among the Dem candidates (and their supporters)...I have decided to become and Independent voter.
I had enough!
He WILL NOT WIN this election. Clinton will beat McCAIN or McCain will beat Obama.
PLEASE AMERICA BEFORE ITS TOO LATE REALIZE HE WILL NOT WIN THE NATIONAL ELECTION!
That is great. Obama will lead America come November. Gob bless Obama.
I think Clinton may have made a mistake coming out with tough talk on potentially taking this convention. This may cause Super D's to come out sooner, rather the later and make results of FL/MI not matter no matter how they cut it so she can't win.
She might have shot herself in the foot.
Patrick, Indianapolis May 23rd, 2008 12:11 pm ET
Well it is pretty ironic to know that if Florida had stayed at March 4th and allowed campaigning and Clinton won by 15 points then Obama would have been finished. Florida would have been THE deciding state if it didn't move up its primary. I always get a chuckle at that.
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Love your analysis. However, the dynamics of the race would have changed in that span. I am pretty sure that Obama would have carried Michigan by the time they were supposed to vote and most likely the margin in FL would have been lower.
So, now that CNN continues to post a majority of pro-Obama threads...let's be clear...it's OK for Superdelegates to change sides.
Please no whining from the Obama campaign or his media lackeys if/when any of his current superdelegates change sides.
It is strange that the party that complained that votes weren't counted in 2000, would decide not to count them now. It was a fair election in Michigan and Florida. Obama made the decision not to campaign in those states, while Hillary did. It's no fault of her's that Obama chose to ignore voters in both of those states and wants to continue to ignore them. The vote happened, Clinton won. The problem with the caucus primary system is that the Iowa and New Hampsire voters and the early states get to choose a nominee. I don't blame either Michigan and Florida for moving their voting up. If Minnesota could move their voting up to the first couple of days of the election season, I would support that too.
I AM OF ONE OF THOSE FLORIDIANS WHO DID NOT VOTE IN THE PRIMARY SINCE I WAS TOLD THAT MY VOTE WOULD NOT COUNT. HOW WOULD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FACTOR IN MY VOTE IN THIS PROCESS? I WILL VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IN THE FALL.
From a safe distance(Sweden) I can´t help wondering what´s going on. Not that I´d vote for either candidate(Clinton/Obama) but still...
I live in a country for which I have less admiration than I have for the US. Here, however if a political party went on a roadtrip like the democrats they´d be literally obliterated in the next election.
Maybe the smoke-filled rooms were not that bad after all...
Excellent! Thank you, Congressmen!
Obama only needs what, 40 or so by May 31st to sew this up? If the uncomitteds would stand up and think of the good of the party, they would come out over the Memorial Day weekend and endorse the candidate who was against the war from the beginning.
The Clinton camp said it would stop when there is a nominee. Ok, give us a nominee – by May 30th. This would hopefully make the FL/MI discussions less of an issue, halt some lawsuits and appeals, and start the process of healing that has to occur if we are going to have a Democrat in the White House next year.
CNN PLEASE REPORT THEY ARE 4. ADD THE 2 OF EDWARDS DELEGATES FROM HEW HAMPSHIRE!
Did I just hear the "Lady in the Pant Suit" singing?
It doesn't matter how many Super-Stupid Delegates stand behind
Mr. Slogan Obama. He is not experienced enough to handle the presidency. He is an elitist and he has racist views.
I am a Democrat and have only voted Republican one other time.
If Obama gets the nomination, I will vote for McCain.
Not out of spite but because I prefer McCain. He is a
centrist–his views and actions are down the middle.
He also works well with politicians of both parties.
CNN, why are you prohibiting free speech on your forum? I read several blogs and this is the only one that censors comments at the whim of the moderator. Most blogs permit free speech as long as you obey the forum rules.
The next primary in Puerto Rico ,although Puerto Rico results affect the Democratic primary , will have no revelance in the November general election. So really the next big (and final) primaries are on June 3rd with Montana and South Dakota. These final primaries are over a week away and Obama is beginning to fully engage McCain while Hillary whines about sexism, complains about Florida and Michigan, and faults the Democratic Party on its process and rules.
Obama has been collecting Superdelegates at a rate of 30 per week for the last two weeks. By June 2nd, Obama will be 25 or less total delegates away from clinching the nomination.
As one blogger noted, Hillary-supporters don't give legitimate reasons (i.e. not agreeing with his policy positions) why they are against Obama.
Another snake, with friends like that who needs enemies. It just shows his true character. When the going gets tough jump ship. Obama can have him.
COOL!
...don't let the door hitcha, Ms. Clinton!
...unless you'd STILL like to stay around longer and divide the party even more...
obamaosama May 23rd, 2008 11:58 am ET
PRACTICE THESE WORDS: Yes Sir, President Obama Sir.
Great news. Lady Macbeth should concede.
Senator Obama has played by the rules. He has not once violated, bend, amend, or reject any of the rules which were in place. He has won this nomination fairly. This nation is fortunate to have such an honorable man running for president. If at this last hour there is some attempt to manipulate or change the rules in the bottom of the ninth, with two outs, and two strikes, then the person or group trying to change the rules is less than honorable.
I love it when the plan comes together! Keep moving from Hillary to Obama, it makes sense because he is the nominee
OBAMA-08!
Sherri Jones said:
"Hillary is the only one who can get this country out of the mess we are in. But if I don't my 1st. choice. Guess I will be switching parties this election."
You sound like the kid who didn't get picked first for the baseball team. He just took his ball and went home...Shame!!! True democrats will work together to unite the party, regardless of who wins the nomination. I guess you must be one of those masquarading Republicans trying to get all of us true Dems worked up in a frenzy!
Just take you ball and go home!
All you Hillary Clinton supporters that are saying you are going to vote for McCain instead of Obama were he to win need not complain when the president isn't looking out for your best interests. Those of you who complain about Iraq, the economy, and healthcare better not say a word if you are a Democrat and you cast a vote for McCain. Vindictively voting against your own interests is NOT smart use of your vote people.
I cannot understand where the Clinton supporters come up with there claims against Senator Obama. If you must belittle the man and his family, do so on facts. Not some made up version of what you read, overheard or otherwise deduced.
If you are not going to vote for the man for whatever reason then just say so. Stop the lies!
The Dems threatening to vote against Obama are NOT Repubs but long term Dems who REFUSE to buy Obamas lies.. noquarterusa.net and writehillaryin.com are examples of sites where this movement is growing. We do not like McCain but we are willing to put him in the White House to stop Obama. We are Dems that will NEVER support Obama and the we are making sure the DNC knows this.........
If Obama was on the short end of this contest, you can bet your bottom dollar that he would 1. Not drop out and 2. Ask for those votes to be counted, if in fact he had won the states in the same manner.
So please Obamabots, get a grip on yourselves. Your guy seems likely to win the nomination and equally likely to lose the general. When that happens, you will be the first to blame Hillary Clinton for it.
As for reasons we have voted for Hillary Clinton:
Broader experience for a longer time.
Strongest of the 2 Democrats with regard to understanding the issues and solutions to the problems.
Most likely to win against McCain.
Jaci May 23rd, 2008 12:16 pm ET
I have yet to have a Clinton support give SPECIFIC reasons not to vote for Obama, besides insults that have nothing to do with the campaign he has run or issues he has run on,or his platform.....
Jaci– I will give you reasons for not supporting Obama that are specific to his campaign and his platform–I do not share his values or his stance on a federal law allowing partial birth abortions; I do not share his stance on a federal law banning concealed weapons; I do not think that he has the best leadership or bipartisan building skills. Look at his record in the Senate. I believe he voted over 100 time present. That is neither a yes or no vote. That is not leadership to me. A leader takes a stand and defends his position when others thinks he is wrong. I also would look at his record for bipartisan support in the Senate. His records indicates that he votes mainly along party lines. Check the facts. From the Senate website one can clearly see that the candidate that has most often reached across party lines to build bipartisan support and also support bills of the other party because it was good legislation was John McCain.
I hope that gives you some reasons why some of us would not support Obama.
Glad to hear more superdelegates rallying behind Obama. The sad truth is Hillary will keep her devisive self in the thick of things past the convention. On May 31st they will likely split the votes somewhere near 40% for Obama and 50-60% for Clinton. Even with this scenario, Obama is still ahead. There is no other way. Clinton only wants "her" votes counted. She may go down in history as the one who tore the party apart because she didn't get her way. Her sense of entilement and using everything from sexism to lying to get what she believes is hers.
obamaosama – learn how to spell "losers", not "loosers"
It's time for the rest of the superdelegates to cast their votes for Obama. Hillary is too untrustworthy, lying and pandering at her own convenience, doing and saying whatever she feels to get votes. We can trust Obama, his ideas for change and his judgement are the best!
I will not follow Obama. Has nothing to do with sour grapes. I do not like the man. I am not a follower or easily put in a trance by egotistical men.
It will be nice to finally move on to the next leg of the contest. Democrats UNITE!
i am a Democart from Florida I have voted Democrat my entire life. If my Vote is not counted and our Deligates seated I will in Protest vote for McCaine and I know many others that are doing the same. Unless the DNC settels this issue with Florida they will loose Florida in the General Election no matter who the Candidate is. Fla is the 4th largest State in the Union and as Florida will vote so will go the nation. DNC you have been Served and put on Notice!
Ms. Clinton. They believe your lies and are going to vote republican because of it. Your first responsibility after 6/3 is to tell them you were lying. Tell them you don't have the popular vote, tell them that even if you did you yourself said "it's a race for delegates," tell them that you know, for sure, without doubt that Barack Obama is not Muslim, tell them that the Canada NAFTA thing was a lie, tell them he didn't dienfranchise FL and MI. You HAVE to own up to your horrid lies, or the next four years of war and poverty are YOUR fault.
Any notion of changing the rules regarding Florida and Michigan now in the final days is ridiculous.
Pathetic and sour, Clinton is not presidential nor vice presidential material.
RIGHT ON!! Let's get this thing done.
GO OBAMA!!!
Regarding Florida and Michigan, rules cannot be changed in the middle of the game! But a way must be found to seat the delegations to bring the party together. Also Senator Clinton must be given a role in Obama's administration to help bring her and all her supporters along.
P.S. What makes everyone think that Barak is going to be a good President. Because he speaks like a Preacher? Yes, I am looking forward to complete sentences from the White House again, just like most people. He can talk about "yes we can" and "change" all he wants, but I have seen nothing that tells me he can change anything. He certainly has not laid out any plans for change. He is a great motivational speaker, but talking about change is different than actually illustrating how he plans to do this. If we need a motivational speaker for President, why not put Tony Robbins on the ticket too?
Two month ago HRC had my vote. Desperation is not good. Makes her look weak. Desperation is like stealing from the Mafia: you stand a good chance of attracting the wrong attention. Sorry Hillary.
Congratulations and I agree with both congressmen. We need to get behind our nominee and move forward. Much work to be done.
Also, there were rules. You can't change a games rules just because you fell behind, and being a ring-leader arousing such animosity to be directed at the DNC is un-presidentual like. I'm sorry Senator Clinton, I cannot support you on this one.
Thank you!! I totally agree and I'm thrilled that people are seeing through this shamI
If Obama doesn't win the elections against McCain, it'll be because you didn't vote/didn't vote for him. Sounds obvious right? But some people are speaking about an Obama loss as an inevitability. In actual fact, you have the power to bring a democrat to the White House. Don't blow it because you are suspicious of blacks. (Frankly, most of you who are against Obama are only so because of the Rev Wright controversy. And who the heck cares what some angry bitter Pastor has to say?) John McCain wants to hand over the judiciary to the conservatives. Do you know to what degrees of regression we will be subject if we let him? It's much more insidious, ultimately, than anything some raving pastor with absolutely no power (and a lot to be bitter about if we're honest) can fathom. In very real terms, Obama has your best interests at the forefront. Give him a chance.
Great job, super delegates! I smile when people write that Obama can't win. They are so angry. If he can't win, then they shoud be happy, not upset. So I conclude that they know he will beat McCain all to pieces this November.
I hear Barack has a lot more superdelegates, but they will come out when needed, after each primary, especially after Puerto Rico, because they changed from a caucus to a primary because it favors Hillary, their choice and the pill of the century.
Obama 08 and beyond.
rules are rules
what do we teach our children if we ourselves break the rules
Hillary broke the rules
now she is crying to her supporters and is encouraging them to demonstrate in her speak made yesterday
this is wrong and two wrongs do not make one right
marie greene
Face it America, Obama will win no matter what we do because it is meant to be. I don't want him for President and would never vote for him and I am hoping that Hillary would not accept a VP slot if offered. She is so much more capable and smarter than he is that I would be offended if she accepted. People so misjudge her, she is trying to fight on because she really believes she is the best candiate and I like so many others agree.
Talk about her supporters all you want, but its minorities and left wing nuts and college kids who havent' been around long enough to know anything who vote for him. But we will all understand in the end why he won.
You people have to get your facts in order, the Democrats had nothing to do moving up the primary to January. It was the majority Republican controlled house here in Florida who moved it up. The Democrats hold a minority in the house and they lost the battle. So stop blaming the Democrats for what the Republicans did. This is a Red state and they knew it would hurt the Democrats. That is why that just Half of the Republicans delegates will be seated at their convention. Howard dean needs to fix this injustice. Once again my vote here in Florida is worth nothing....
Superdelegates this madness must end asap PLEASE bring them on and lets get the show on the road all the way to the Oval Office .
WE are tired waiting and what it is causing .
Please Obama
"NO HILARY FOR VP"
NO HILLARY FOR VP
NO HILLARY FOR VP
OBAMA 08/12
I Agree with you Jim
Hillary or McCaine 2008
Jim May 23rd, 2008 12:34 pm ET
Well, since Florida did not recognize the vote that I cast for Hillary, and since 1.7 Million Democrats did go out and vote as this was the only day and chance we could, it just didnt count. Let's blame the people that are really responsible, and signed this into law. Charlie Christ. Our governor. Since they wont count my vote as a democrat, then I have no choice but to vote republican. At least I know when I vote it will count.
And Obama has the vote of people who won't even come to out to Vote in November.
I love how they are saying he is registering record of numbers of youth votes. Remember the last time it was all over the news that record numbers of youths were going to help the candidate they were supporting win by a nice margin?
I remember it, because they never showed up, suprising everyone, and thats why Gore lost to Bush.
I was a die hard Democrat and knew in my heart that they are the most crooked minded people ever but stifled my conscience and supported them.Now that the evidence is all clear I can no longer support them.
I predict that both California and Florida will be won by my new Party -Republican.
As we all know,
This race has been over for weeks. The reality is, Obama STILL has droves of "uncommitted" superdelegates that will be backing him. However, they are refraining from making their public commitments known at once, out of respect for Hillary. Which is why you only see a handful of delegates pledging their support about every other day.
I am pro Obama, but not anti-Hillary. I just hope that she, along with many of her supporters will not express any "bitter" feelings once he becomes the nominee. Democrats we need to put all of this fighting aside, and unite for the betterment of our country. This is the only way that our nominee will have a chance to defeat John McCain in November.
"Clinton backer switches to Obama"
Me thinks the news has been getting repetitive in that department lately.
Calling a woman, "Sweetie," is like calling a black man "Boy."
You Obama fans don't get it. We "sweeties" think the Democratic party doesn't deserve to win while sexism is ignored or trivialized. I have never seen so many truly nasty people get behind a single candidate, and I refuse to honor such people with my vote. Obama attracts real haters. I don't want a government made of up Hitler Youth, thanks anyway. At least McCain is straightforward and doesn't attract people like you. Disrespect and Hate for other Americans is what you sow with your foul mouths.
I, for one, am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. I've been doing it for years. No more of that. I don't have to, and millions of others don't have to either. And don't give me your "the sky is falling if McCain is elected so you have to vote for B.O. or you're evil" argument. You accuse Clinton of that silly position all the time. What's another four years? McCain it is!! Let's just worry about what these wives look like in jeans-that's the only interesting thing about women in America. Get somebody else to match your sox, boys.
"YES WE......." better luck next time, Hillary.
Clinton said that she might take her fight all the way to the convention. I hope that more Superdelegates will get behind Obama before she makes even more of a mess.
Hillary PLEASE STOP. We'll pay down your debt just get out of the race and forget about being VP.
Hillary supporters PLEASE just let it go and REALIZE she is not going to be nominated no matter how much she claims the POPULAR vote which her numbers don't even add up! FACE FACTS!!! it's just not going to happen I just wish the superdelegates would just close this out so all of you will finally WAKE UP!! Hillary ran a horrible campaign and I honestly feel she doesn't deserve the VP spot like I said before we need to put our petty differences aside and unite instead of you stating you vote for mccain which is not going to help you especially all of her women supporters in the long run. FACE IT SHE IS NOT GOING TO GET THE NOMINATION so protest all you want in DC and while your protesting ask hillary why she AGREED not to seat FL & MI in the first place where you guys then if she was so adament about having your votes count she would have said so from the beginning BUT SHE DIDN"T!
OBAMA 08/12 YES WE CAN and YES
all this Super Duper Delegates who are swithing to Obama will regrets later,since, many of us Clinton supporters will change our votes in favor of Senator McCain. Hispanics for McCain. Period.
This is one elderly, white male for Obama!
Hillary supporters:
Take your pick.
Obama who essentially agrees with your candidate on most issues, or
McCain who essentially agrees with George W. Bush on most issues.
Who do you want picking the next Justices of the Supreme Court?
Support unity for the Democratic Party and work toward an outcome in November that will turn the tide against the ravages of the last 7 and a half years.
It's entertaining reading just how bitter both the Clinton AND the McCain camps actually are. As entertaining as looking at a car crash.
This is good news! Clinton IS desperate, by the way!
So many Americans seem to view this set of primaries and the election as akin to a high school election for prom king and queen. Choosing NOT to vote for either nominee if "your" nominee is not it, is childish and irresponsible. Americans, wake up. Your vote is not just about you or your hurt feelings or your taxes or your pet cause or pet candidate, it impacts many important aspects of this nation and the entire planet. No time for petulance!
Welcome aboard sir(s). Next stop: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan but Clinton NOW wants their votes counted since she won.
So why has she not drop out ?? THEY HAVE NO SHAME AND CANNT WIN IT IS OVER !! BUT She is a VERY SORE LOSER!!! IF THSI WAS OBAMA HE WOULD HAV DONE DROP OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN THE CLINTON HAS NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS ALL ABOUT HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary shoud turn Independent and Run that will screw obama for good and McCane will win
It is sad to hear so many of Senator Clinton supporters stating they will not vote for Senator Obama without giving legitimate reasons. I think if you are truly looking for change and what to see the country go in a different direction than you would not dare vote for John McCain. So I say to all of you Hillary supporters if you truly believed in her campaign and her plans for the country how could you vote for McCain. I do believe Obama's plans for the country are more in line with Clinton's and McCain and Clinton plans are no where near the same. If you want to see the country continue to head the wrong direction than go ahead and cast your vote for McCain in November. If you think gas prices and the cost of living are high now just go ahead and cast your vote for a Republican nominee. I bet you in less than 6 months you will be sorry you casted your vote for McCain just like a lot of people who gave GW Bush a second chance to ruin the country. Let's face the truth Clinton has no more experience than Obama, neither has been President of the United States before. Now with all this said I will cast my vote for whom ever wins the democratic nomination because unlike a lot of you Clinton supporters, I am truly ready for a change!
Obama has even Rush Limbaugh scared now.Rush is sermonizing now about global warming is just a plot and he isnt on big oils payroll.This guy tells more lies and millions believe him.
I love it how Hillary women will vote for McCain and put their right to CHOOSE in jepardy. Isn't this exactly why women shouldn't be in power? The thought process is clouded by emotion?
Welcome aboard, everyone!
I'm sick and tired of Hillary blaming misogyny and the media for her debacle. Did misogyny and media
1) make her mismanage her funds to the tune of 21 million in debts (how can someone who can't handle 178 million handle 200 trillion in national GNP)?
2) make her lie about Bosnia sniper fire and being named after Sir Edmund Hillary (who climbed Mt. Everest years after Hillary was born),
3) make her try to change the rules and the goal-posts every few weeks?
4) make her change forms and shapes like Greek mythological figure (from voice of experience, to action figure, to whisky-drinking gun-toting blue collar diva, to defender of the hard-working "white" people?
Give me a break. I will not only not vote for this woman but resign from my gender if she does any dirty back-room politicking to get the nomination.
Superdelegates you better listen all the women, not just those who support Hillary.
Obama-Gore '08 or Obama-Sebilius '08
Hillary supporters,
You guys are acting like a teenage girl who's dating a thug! You know he's going to break your heart, but you're so madly in love you're making excuses and justifying all the obvious red flags.
Sounds like the GOP in 04.
Instead of getting angry at Obama...why don't you guys focus on bailing your candidate out of debt.!!!
She desperately needs your money to pay her bills.
Enough is enough. HC should admit defeat and her and Bill concentrate on giving their total support to the nominee, Barack Obama. This constant
negativity is certainly not good for the Clintons, the Democratic Party, and certainly Obama. The Clintons need to give up their entitlement attitude, all they are doing is giving more time for McCain to add fuel to fire.
Senator Obama deserves to be the candidate and will be the party's choice.
YES WE CAN! YES WE WILL! IT'S TIME FOR THE CHANGE TO BEGIN.
Way to go...let's end this thing and let Obama spin his magic and win us back the White House.
Please America, the thought of looking at Hillary for four more years makes my stomach hurt. Send her back to NY, signed, sealed and delivered–she's theirs.
If anybody is thinking about challenging Hillary in the next Senate election, I think that would be a good thing.
Thank You, Congressman Dennis Cardoza, for having the backbone to not only endorse Obama but for saying it like it is!!! Thank you, also, Congressman Jim Costa for your endorsement.
To Greg:
I see you have no problem with showing that you are ignorant and prejudice. What has Obama done to you and all others that will not vote for him if he is the Democrat nominee? Ask yourself that question.
I have never seen so many people willing to live 4 more years of hard-ship out of hatred. Even if it means loosing your lively-hood. WOW, I guess ignorance just breeds more ignorance. But, I am so PROUD of those who will vote for Obama because they want a change for Americans. All Americans. For the world.
What GOD has for you, no one can take away. Obama will be the next President of the United States.
Hillary, are you listening? Probably not. Have you even noticed people switching to Mr. Obama and not the reverse trend? Not once ... never ... not in this lifetime. Please be a gracious loser and bow out for the good of the party and stop lying to your supporters, taking their money and giving them false hope that a miracle will happen. The miracle has already happened; you aren't the nominee, but you just can't face the hard fact that >50% of our country including those in your own party simply do not like you or trust you. That's according to all those polls you and your slimey, sleazy operatives "misspeak" about instead of the snapshot ones that favor you.
So when Churchill or the guys say: "Never Give In" it's heroic and admirable, but when Hillary actually practices it, it's 'divisive'?
The same whiney crybabies who moaned, complained, bitterly gnashed their feckless biteless teeth when these losers wimped out, quit, gave up without a fight, didn't fight back:
Kerry (2004)
Gore (2000)
Dukakis (1988)
and to some degree
Carter (80)
McCarthy (72)
are the very same people bitterly whining that Hillary should wimp out, give up, throw in the towel, walk away before it's over - i.e. be like a loser.
Why the double standard? Why don't actual voters and real democracy matter more than elitist democrat party hacks and know-it-all but consistently WRONG media pundits? Why would anyone listen to the ones who have not only been wrong over and over and over, but have obvious biases, don't play by the 'rules' but insist others give up their rights in lieu of a bunch of rich talking heads?
I don't get it.
I'll plan to write in Hillary in November too.
I support Hillary, however the democratic party is bigger than just Hillary and I will be supporting who ever the democratic nominee is, if it's Obama then he's my man.
Democrats 08!!!!
I'm a supporter of clinton, and hope she wins somehow, but it seems otherwise now. It would be nice if sen obama won against mccain, we should realise that and not be divided.
I am NOT voting if Obama gets the nomination.......
He will not win in Nov08........
What happen to Pelosi, Dobbs, Richardson, and Obama himself comments,"The superdelegates shouldn't go against the will of the voters." Where is Pelosi, Dobbs, Richardson, and Obama now, now that Clinton's delegates are going against the will of her voters. All these supporters talked about riots on the street if the the superdegates chose Hillary as the nominee over the will of his voters. These leaders are silent now that the superdelegates are choosing Obama over the will of Hillary's voters. This is another reason to vote for McCain this year, because of the corruption and dishonesty coming from the democratic party. Besides, McCain seems to be a better candidate anyway as a moderate republican.
All of you with hurt feelings who want to desert the party because your candidate didn’t win need to understand a very simple concept. If McCain wins the election we will have a repeat of the last eight years when it comes to foreign policy. I don’t support any of the candidates, however since it now seems like it will be Obama and McCain, I would rather vote for Obama than McCain. All of you who wish to relate Senator Obama’s name with one of them most hated people in the world need to get a life, it is insulting to compare any American, especially a Presidential candidate, to someone like that, you really need to reconsider your motives. As far as Florida and Michigan, the rules of the DNC are clear, there is no ambiguity, if you want the facts then download the rules from the DNC and read them, forget fact check, read the actual rules. Some of you really need to consider where you get your facts because some of the things said about the candidates are just beyond belief and border on ignorance and paranoia.
Senator Obama is only 59 away from the 2026 and Senator Clinton is 247 away. Are there even 247 pledged and superdelegates left to get to 247?
It's about time the supers got off their butts and stopped this thing before it gets to a point of really pissing a bunch of people off. She is proving that she has no respect for the party and for this process, so seal it up and stop her.
They should be able to see the damage she is doing with this sham of a contest. She is hoping someone will pick up the debt and I for one will tell you, that I will contribute no more money to any campaign that pays her anythng. She is doing this out of spite and I don't think she should be rewarded.
Come on supers, commit and put an end to this. You've seen what your are working with, which do you want?
I'm a supporter of clinton, and hope she wins somehow, but it seems otherwise now. It would be nice if sen obama won against mccain, we should realise that and not be divided.
FELLOW DEMOCRATS-
DON'T LET THE REPUBLICANS PIMP YOUR VOTE! READ CAREFULLY THE NOTES FROM FAKE HRC SUPPORTERS!!!
white voters should be mad at Hillary for calling them uneducated voters,whats that all about and she also has a problem with black voters and she need to look into why she only gets 1% of the vote and how can she win in Nov without the black vote.
Obama has run a great campaign and he is ahead in every thing even money,i dont need someone in the white house that bill collecters are going after and has to keep getting rid of people in her campaign that she thinks were good.now that she is behind she has to change again,how many Hillarys are out their.let her find her voice in New York.
Very wise decision.
Thanks gentlemen.
No one wants to be in a loser side.
Afar all they have campaign of their own.
When Hillary shallow supporters will understand this simple fact?
Obama 08
These men are fools! They will be backing a failed candidate because amost if not all of Hillary's people are voting for McCain in the fall. They can say what they want. Obama has lost already!
Let's not forget that it was Terry McAuliffe, NOT Howard Dean, who was the head of the party when the rules about early primaries were put in place. That's Terry McAuliffe, chairman of Hillary's campaign committee, who got the rules put in place and insisted that they absolutely would be enforced. . .
We are almost there , let's stay together people , once you get to know Obama then you will realize you made the right choice.
Obama in November 2008 !
Democrats are a bunch of back stabbers and they are just hurting themselves. Obama has no experience and he should be the Vice-President to give him the chance to learn more about more sofisticated issues such as International , the economy and more.
Honestly, I believe that if we have Obama as a President , he will bring this country lower that it is already.
Hilary backers. Get over it! You lost. Quit threatening to vote Republican or not at all! WE DON'T CARE!!!
It is amazing to me that people are actually going to switch parties even though their opinion does not match the majority.
Sad state of things when people throw temper tantrums and decide they have to get revenge because they aren't getting their own way.
If Mccain becomes president and he overturns Roe v Wade Hillary Clinton will have her true legacy. I am absolutely disgusted with Women in America who aren't even looking at the real facts.
Sorry, but I think its funny people keep on bringing up rascism. Hillary and her husband before her are well known for not their stances on equal rights, etc... Yet every now and then something she says will be deemed as rascist. Want to know whats rascist? 90% of black men and women are voting for Obama. If not more. You really think all 90% fully support his stance on the issues or are just voting for him because he is half black? I mean please, lets be real here. Also I love how the issue of sexism isn't mentioned at all....
Continue swithing sides so you can tell everyone "see look, look I'm cool, I'm backing the cool candidate!" While come November McCain and Bush share a cocktail in the White House while they laughingly look at his winning election results
well not counting 2mil peoples votes is not the way to go and its going to be hard to win if you dont have Fl shows how much obama cares about the people in the 2 states not counted
2 More nails in the coffin for the Democratic Party in the fall. There is no way this country will elect a Far Left Leaning Liberal Junior Senator fo President. He is the Golden Boy of the media but I've got news for you folks he's not electable and the DNC knows it. WAKE UP or we're looking at 8 more years of Republican rule in the Whitehouse. I will not vote for NOBAMA no matter who endorses him. He is a WOLF in SHEEPS CLOTHING. He hates AMERICAN and the blacks know this but because of the color of his skin they'll vote for him anyway. Boy oh boy are you people gonna be fooled come November!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! '08!!!!!!!!!!!
I find it amazing the spin that Hillary Clinton supporters put on everything. First of all they suppose to belong to the Democratic Party the same as the superdelegates. But it seems that her supporters are not members of the Democratic Party, but like her, they are members of the Me Party. It is all about them forget the rest of the country.
They are always talking about Sen. Clinton's experience and Sen. Obama inexperience. When you asks them to list Sen. Clinton's experience, they draws a blank. They want people to vote for Sen. Clinton when the overall majority of the country finds her totally untrustworthy.
For all of you Democratic Party members who wants her to run as an Independent and you will vote for her, please do because quite frankly I'm tired of hearing the threats. We hear threats from you and Sen. Clinton.
She has tried every underhanded, vicious, malacious, tricky, and dirty trick that she can to win the Democratic nomination. I think she failed to realize that a great many people do not subscribe to evil.
If Sen. Obama put Sen. Clinton on the ticket for Vice President, she will no doubt have him killed within a year so that she could be President. Sen. Clinton does not want to be President to better the country, it is all about EGO.
I guess the devil is making her destroy the Democratic Party in order to satisfy her Wants.
Make that 4!!! time to Roll out the welcome mat1 OBAMA 08
"Senator Clinton should take this to the convention. The Superdelegates should all have to stand up and be counted"????? IF any of them wanted to switch from Obama to Clinton by now, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT. As you can see, they are running to him instead. She has clearly gone from serving the good of the party and country to attempting to serve herself. If she does not get off of this destructive path, she is going to loose delegates in droves.
Hey, where did my comment go? It's not even showing up as "awaiting moderation."
"Cody - Illinois May 23rd, 2008 11:59 am ET
Reject the sexist vote Obama! Or will that cut too much into your base?"
Be careful – or he might call you "sweetie!"
Regardless, Florida and Michigan votes should count...! Democratic primary needs to change to mirror the Republicans way.
When is CNN going to report reality to the people of the United States. The only person that is going to beat the republicans is Hillary Clinton. When is CNN going to stop backing B.H. Obama? He'll be lucky if Mrs. Clinton would ask him to be VP. Play by the rules! Quit the one sided broadcast of this race. He's a great speaker when he's reading the prompter, but if you ask him questions here comes the chase around the bush. Like when he was asked about his church and reverand Wright. The next thing I saw was him saying it was Americas fault for being racist not Wright's. He doesn't have the experiance or the love of this country. And he doesn't care for the people. He is getting the black vote just because he is black not for what he has done or will do for my Country. I have loved the United States since I was born, unlike Mr. Obama and his wife.
Thank You for your time.
I'm so over all this garbage. Sick of the Obamadable and his cult followers. Those people are in a coma anyways and he is so not electable. Gonna vote Mccain since I can't vote for Obamadable just cuz he's a democrat.
Obamadable is a racist brat. He cries when the reps pick on his wife, but when he was spouting off about Bill Clinton it was ok. He is a phony, hypocrite and I can't wait til the big boys devour him in November.
Obama is a joke!! He doesn't stand a chance against McCain. Senator Clinton would make a great president. When these people need Hillary's suport I hope she turns on them like they turned on her.
Please tell me how the fact that CNN reports the facts & is accused of being biased against Clinton?
Also why is a vote for Senator Obama considered sexist? That would mean that anyone who votes for Clinton is a racist, right?
More good news!!!
OBAMA '08
More superdelegates from states Clinton won overwhelmingly now backing Obama. We might as well congratulate McCain now for a victory in November.
To Harry C from 12:15 EDT,
I'm an Obama fan, and I believe Superdelegates can support whomever they want. If both your Senators are still supporting Clinton, that's good. After all, a week after Obama got smoked in West Virginia, their Senator just now endorsed Obama. So, you can't have it both ways. But I'm with you in spirit, I do wish they'd come on board.
To Ed from 12:16 EDT,
many of the polls have Obama up and if he keeps Penn as a blue state, gets Virginia where he's currently leading, gets Colorado and either New Mexico or Nevada, he has 276 electoral votes. And that's not including Michigan where he's currently up. That's the math as it is today.
To Sherri Jones from 12:16 EDT,
I would like to understand your rationale. Clinton and Obama agree 90% of the time, just like yesterday when they both voted for the GI Bill. McCain and Clinton vote the same less than 25% of the time (like yesterday when McCain chose to go to a fundraiser rather than go back to DC to vote – either way – for the GI Bill which would support the troops with eduational funding. Course McCain's position was already on record as being against.
So, my question to you, why would you vote against your interest (you say you're a Democrat)? That doesn't make sense. IF you're talking to your child, or a girlfriend, would you tell them to do something that is diametrically opposed to what you both know is against their best interest? Really? Come on now.
Either that is somewhat odd, OR you're really a Republican trying to stir up "chaos." So, which is it?
And this question goes for the rest of the "I'm a Hillary supporter and I'll vote McCain if she doesn't win" persons who'll post here.
GOD Bless us all. And to all, may you have a wonderfully memorable Memorial Day holiday weekend.
We're getting closer...
Keep 'em coming!
Obama 2008!
(I'm also actively rooting for Gov. Kathleen Sebelius as VP. So Obama/Sebelius 2008!)
OH HAPPY DAY!!!!
I WILL TAKE A SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK BEFORE THE FASCISTS GOVERNMENT THAT CURRENTLY HAS A STRANGLEHOLD ON POWER.
hillary is only remaining in the race to pay off her huge debts from stupid campaign contributors- u guys have all been used by her!!!
People don't want to vote for politicians who have the rules changed for their own personal good. Hillary did that here in NY in order to become the junior senator, and now she's backing down from a SIGNED statement that she would respect the rules of the DNC (because at the time, she thought she'd become the "Queen", hands down, with no competition), and now, because she's behind, she's changing her mind.
Now she's losing her delegates to the soon-to-be next president, Barack Obama. If we feel even half as good as we feel now about him, it's a great achievement for America and we'll finally get respect again from foreign countries.
Yes, We Can!
so long hillary !
Hillary changes the rules just about every day.
Hillary supporters change their preferred candidate on a regular basis of late.
Senator McCain just changes his mind/position on issues everyday and is un-endorsing supporters that he originally fought hard to gain.
"No country for old men"
The Florida and Michigan delegates WILL be seated..........................as soon as it is official the Barack is the nominee. States that break the rules should NOT have a say in who is the nominee, both Barack and Hillary agreed to this before the first primary. Any child knows that you can't change the rules during a game, and allowing Florida and Michigan to be forgiven for breaking the rules and allowing their votes to influence the nominee selection at this point will lead to many other states doing the same thing 4 years from now. We must be consistent and stand firm on the rules. Hillary knows this, but will do or say anything to help herself. Should the roles be reversed, with Hillary's name not even being on the ballot in Michigan, based on what I have seen and heard from Barack during this campaign, I am confident he would NOT be pushing to have the votes counted, he would not be asking the DNC to break the rules as he is the "different" kind of politician this country has been starving for.
Obama 2008 and 2012!
It's amazing, Obama's blackness is highlighted against his whiteness, while it's 50/50, for purely racist and political gain by MCain and Clinton. You ask any fair-minded person why they hate Obama and there is no other reason than the fact of his complexion. In 2008 this makes USA a very sad country!! Pick him for his honesty and genuine heartfelt feelings for America. Remember whay MLK said that "you should be judged by the content of your character not by the colour of your skin". Judge Hillary on this and she fails miserably every time!!
Obama 08
Cardoza,
will not be loyal to Obama, he is like all the other ones that have swiched from Hillary to Obama. In order to support someone you need to be loyal and support your choice thru the good times as well as the though times. This is the policital games that Obama is supposed to be so against.
So Obama you can have the likes of people like this, they will turn on you at the slightest bit of trouble.
The animosity being generated may be appropriate for fans of 2 high school football teams but not the Democratic party in an election as important as this one. It is time for all reasonable supporters to state their position without using nasty and derogatory words. I am sure that all the elected delegates and super delegates are fully aware of the significance of their decision and have spent a lot of time and effort reaching their decision. Many of them are in the Congress and have actually worked with both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. Yes, we all support one of them in this primary session but it is time to stop the destructive behavior from the supporters...unless you want a continuation of the war in Iraq with the drain on you personal income, the loss of your job to other countries, the lack of good schools and jobs for your children, and the continual decline of our great county in the eyes of the world.
What will be the great surprise ? Hillary will prevail with the votes of the Superdelegates.
Last I checked, Super Delegates can wait and choose until the convention. Isn't that changing the rules by forcing them to decide earlier?
It will be nice to finally get her out of the picture.........Then we only have to wait until November to get Obama out of the picture.
I totally agree that it was the GOP's fault that the primaries were moved up, so I firmly believe the delegates should be seated and votes counted, but let's be logical – it has to be done in a fair way.
Florida: as is
Michigan: 50/50
ALSO – CAUCUS votes count, it doesn't matter if it is a SMALL turnout, or you don't agree with how it was done. THOUSANDS of people showed up and YOU CANNOT DISENFRANCHISE US EITHER!
I didn't just show up and stand there for 2 hours for no reason! Give me a break!
for all so call dems who said they will vote for macCain if Obama is the nominee at not real dems ..you all are foolish. go ahead and vote for macCain ,the war will never end and they wil be a draff plus the economy will be will never recover.
kudos to you gentlemen, we are looking for a few good men to bring this to an end, it's not about greed and power it's about making america what it should be the united states of america. let's stop this devisiveness for the sake of the party and work together,
The fat lady just went double platinum!
the thing is, obama CANNOT win mccain, which hillary can. He is a black, do you expect a so corely conservative country like America to give powers to a black guy, NO. Even though people say they'll vote for obama, if he is the nominee, we all the results, he will be defeated and i would not be surprised it that loss will be by a wide margin. he's only chance of winning is giving hillary the VP spot.
I am a Hillary supporter and really think she would make the best president, can not understand why so many people think Obama is the chosen one and is going to fix all, guess we will see.
I sincerely hope that Hillary does not become the VP, because from all the hateful things these supporters are saying about her, if anything at all happens to Obama I can just see the headlines blaming the Clintons, not to mention that all the media is endorsing him. This would be twice the talk that was involved with Johnson and the JFK situation. As a matter of fact this has already been stated in a number of comments and it is just plain blasphemy.
Big deal, this thing is over, the naming of Obama as the nominee is only a formality at this point. People need to get over it, get together and elect Obama in the fall. It was a hard fought contest between 2 great candidates, but the writing is on the wall.
I'd like to see Obama and Michelle go...........................BACK TO CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Bird could be runing as a democrat and I would vote for him over McCain.....
Imagine this. Hillary was spotted over 100 super delegates by Obmama at the begining of the primary election. Now he is over 30 supers past her.
He is winning in every category expect the Bill and Chelsea category. What do the other supers really want? Money? Can't they see how delaying this is crippling the party? Is Hillary more important than the country or the party?
At this point, I am fully in surpport of removing most of the super delegates especially the ones that have not endorsed. We will remeber you supers that did not voice up your surpport in time once this is all over. You will be the reason we fail our attempt at the presidency this fall. I am very dissapointed in you – there is nothign super about you anymore to me.
Finally, anyone who say that Hillary is creating a rift in the party is crazy. She has half the Democrat vote, if Hillary is at fault, so is Barak. 50/50. Barak cannot claim victory without the number of delegates to do so. Until he does get the numbers, the race is wide open.
Hillary is staying in it until the end to see if Barak screws up. Who knows what can happen leadnig up to the Convention. Maybe the people will find out he smokes a pack of butts a day. What kind of a message does that send to the youth of the country? "The President smokes. Why can't I?" Maybe one night he gets pulled over for DUI? Maybe he says something that further alienates him from more than half of the country.
Unless he has the numbers, the race should go on.
This stuff is straight out of the Republican play book. If we don't come together to protect this country from another four years of failed leadership, I'm afraid it will be too late. This country is hanging on by a thread as it is. We have HUGE problems to solve (debt, war, economy) Any Democrat who says that they will vote for McSame because Hillary didn't get the nomination should be ashamed of themselves. The future for my grandchildren depends on us fighting TOGETHER to get this country back on the right track.
Whether you like Obama or not, that's who the people chose. If you have to hold your nose and vote for him, at least don't vote against the rest of us who are eager for change.
I'm a registered republican who isn't sure she can vote for McCain. I'm looking strongly at Senator Obama and will make my final decision based on who they pick for VP's. If Obama picks Clinton as his running-mate I definately won't be able to switch my vote! Senator Clinton appears to be more corrupt than her husband was. Getting them back in the White House would not be good for our country – only for themselves.
Congrats!! Obama '08 Positively Beautiful!!!
Congratulations Obama.
Good luck in this process.
SHE will never give in. FIGHT FIGHT harder is the only way because Obama is not as strong or fierce as SHE. And SHE will never let her supporters down. They will keep pushing until he eventually has to yield, because SHE is the stronger candidate. She wears the pants.
Obama still unelectable because he is too flip-flop. Look how many name he have in his life when he still a child and still a Muslim he have other name, when he young he have another name, and when he be come a Christian or faith he have another name. So this is the man going to our next President? I don't think so people your guy have to think
twice before vote for him and before too late.
Woo Hoo!
It's time for Hillary to step aside with some grace and dignity. I know she has a large number of um...well let's just call them "low information voters" but not even they can REALLY believe her outrageous and ridiculous positon on the FL and MI delegates.
The undeniable TRUTH is, she agreed to the rules and now wants to change them because SHE LOST...which somewhow makes Obama – who is adhering to the agreed-upon rules – the villian? She just cares SO MUCH now! And for them, of course, not her.
*yawn*
Bye Bye Hillary.
This needs to be decided before May 31st.
What a P.R. nightmare for the Democratic Party, to have a bunch of screaming people at the Credentials Committee meeting, in D.C..
Super D's it's time to do you job.
The gentleman who said it is "immediate" is on point.
The Democrats take America one step foward, then the Republicans come along and take Her two steps back. They are anti-progressive.
Hillary Clinnton should stop fighting for the Democrats and become an independent candidate, given how she has been treated by her party, or join the Republicans. Democrats do not deserve her as a leader.
Why don't you Hillary supportors just shave your heads in revolt and shut up. With all the Independents and Republicans that will be voting for Obama this year we don't need you. And to all my fellow women voters who plan to vote for McCain - you are idiots. Were you listening when he said he would replace the two supreme court justices who plan to retire during the next term with conservative judges - do you know what that means idiots???
NO MORE ROW v. WADE!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T BE DUMB!!!
OBAMA '08
17+ million voters for Hillary AND Obama. It's not like she was a long-shot! What are the Obamamanicas afraid of if he's such a sure bet?
I am one of those uneducated, single white women who WILL NOT vote for Obama under any circumstance ... even if by some chance Hillary was VP.
McCain – default choice – NEVER OBAMA!!!
I have a question for all these people who don't support Obama, can you please give me just 1 reason, why Mccain would be a better candidate? And give me some thorough facts and information to support it. All I see if people saying they will never vote Obama, but they can't explain why, when we have a thousand reasons, I need to see one, so you can have my sympathy.
The DEMS are doing it again- they are setting themselves up for a GE loss by supporting the least electable candidate.
Obama is too far left to appeal to the HRC supporters, much less to independents and moderate republicans.
He is also flip-flopping all over the issues- which creates mistrust. First he would talk to our enemies unconditionally- it was on his website and taped on debates. Now he denies that and takes a different position.
On Rev Wright, the same thing- first supports him and then ultimately denounces him. Again- all for political expediency.
Obama vs McCain=McCain win easily.
Hillary vs McCain=Hillary win easily.
BIG MISTAKE................
WAIT & SEE!!!
How much more of this nonsense are we going to have to put up with. If the rules that were broken get changed just because the out come they thought was going to happen isnt happening. We have failed as a demcratic party. Hillary needs to stand up to sit down
There's never any news reported when Hillary's numbers go up. She had less than her current 279 supers just a few days ago, but CNN doesn't splash that all over.
I do believe the fat lady in the pantsuit has sung.....
Obamaosama, you're a fool.
Who are you to call anyone a loser and what evidence do you have to call them that. Are you just name calling like child because that's all you're capable of.
Obama will be the president and we will see who the loser is in November. oh yeah it won't be McCain either, it will be all those who are ignornant and naive of what is to come.
Why is CNN so biased towards Obama. Start show interviews that they have about Mccain and see how much this OLD SENILE man denying the allegations from previous interviews. Seems like CNN doesn't want a Black man in the White House because they won't reveal the true McBush.
DON'T YOU ALL OF MY FRIENDS DEMOCRATS HERE REMEMBER
THAT WE ALL DEMOCRATS AND WE NEED TO UNIFIED BEHIND
OUR FRONT RUNER CANDIDAT??? IT'S TIME AND IT MY BE
LATE IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!
Will someone please tell me.....since when has being a former first lady made you the best candidate for President? Our country has had many Presidents and none of them have had to have "former first lady" on their resume to make them viable leaders. So why is it that this time, everyone thinks that "former first lady" makes this candidate the best one? ..OH. I answered my own question- everyone doesn't think that and that's probably why....well you know...why she's not necessarily the winner.
Could someone tell the overheated, strident CNN commentator who comes on at 7pm eastern time to read these comments and articles? He rants about "democracy", flag pin in lapel, when the big issue is really about someone (Clinton) trying to change the rules of the game, football, shall we say?, when she is losing in the last 60 seconds. A common understanding of fairness ought to dictate that this kind of manoeuvre is not worthy of a long discussion. For what it is worth, may I suggest that the Democratic leadership send an authoritative messenger to Clinton to direct her to throw in the towel before she succeeds in pulling down the political party to which she professes loyalty?
To Linda above......if 50% of the people as you say don't want Obama and 50% of the people don't want Clinton...why should we go with Clinton??? because you want her? i don't get your logic but then again i don't get the logic of many of Clinton's supporters. Consistently in polls she polls highest regarding the most unfair attacker and the most negative yet the people vote for her and say they share her values and not Obama's. So, they value negativity and unfairness. i don't think that's something i could ever be proud of.
Clinton just has to get 80% of the remaining states & the superd's... then she almost pulls even with Obama. Then we seat, say, Florida and she WINS! You can do it Hill!
IF only Hillary would see the light.
The DNC has dug its own grave by selecting and installing Obama as the nominee.
Now the superdelegates must flock over to him in order to create the illusion of support and strength.
In reality, they are appeasing the African Americans and the new youth, both of whom have threatened to stay home and not vote UNLESS Obama is the nominee.
Appeasement, in response to threats, is never the wise policy to pursue.
It's been fascinating reading these blogs. I've lived in many of the places where people are supposedly commenting from. Folks, look outside of your own community. You'll see that your opinion does not necessarily reflect what the U.S. as a whole thinks, or even needs, right now. Obama has already shown he has the wisdom to lead; just look at how effective and efficient his campaign has been.
Being a Clinton fan since 1992 it saddens me to see what they are doing to their image. Asking for more donations to support a hopeless cause is inexcusable. When multi millionaires continue to bilk ordinary working people of their nickels and dimes by asking them to give their money under false pretenses is simply deplorable.
Nooooooo to Hillary as VP. We have enough worries about his safety without choosing a successor that is just chomping at the bit.
That would be like making your estranged ex-spouse the beneficiary of your life insurance policy.
I'm not accusing her of anything - just noting that it adds significantly to existing fears.
Clinton is ahead in the popular vote. It is extremely troubling if the candidiate who won the most votes cast in the elections is not the nominee. In spite of everything against her, including the media, the Democratic establishment, Obama's outspending of her by huge margins, she still has won more votes and particularly in state's vital to the Democratic Party in November. If this were winner take all like the general election and Republican primaries, she would have secured the nomination by now (she has the most electoral college votes)..
It is completely lame for a superdelegate to simply support someone because they presume that candidiate will be the likely nominee. How about using some independent judgment and actually making a rational thoughtful decision. The job of superdelegates is to select the candidiate who can win in November and that candidiate is Hillary Clinton.
I am a lifelong Democrat who has observed through this election/primary process such corruption in the way the "elitists of the Democratic Party" choose their nominee that, on principle, will now be voting Republican. It is obvious that the Republicans at least can keep the crap out of their nominating process, unlike the Democrats. I will not support the "liberal extremists" of the DNC in their stupidity. They will find out after this is done in November that the majority of Americans don't either. Obama will not be president because America will not be well-served by an extremist of any party. America needs a "centrist" president, one who can present arguments to the American problems in a way that is NOT all one way or the other. That is what Bush has done, and that is what Obama and his supporters are hoping to do. That will NOT DO. I encourage all other intelligent, "moderate", sensible Americans to show the Liberal Left of the Democrat Party that we are leaving you behind, and VOTE MCCAIN. McCain is moderate, he will listen to both sides of the isle in Washington, and he is a brave American who served our Country in Vietnam EXTREMELY WELL. It's time for us to vote in a PATRIOT, not an extremist!
Im still for Hillary. Screw Obama that Idealistic fraud!
these oil stubborn greedy politicians WILL TRY TO HELP HER, trust me, but fate has it, we will find out soon how washington is hiding things from the american people for they are about to be exposed!!
Anyone Democrat who says that they will vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination is not a true Democrat and you may be a closet racist. If you believe in what the Democratic party stands for, and you really want a Democrat in the White House then grow up, and fully support the chosen nominee. I
It appears to be getting clearer and clearer. The electorate has chosen Senator Obama over Senator Clinton to this point. The super-delegates are doing similar.
Reasons appear to be electability, capability, vision, and leadership. All these things Clinton claims, but Obama is getting the support for in the decisions being made.
Fewer and fewer citizens are believing Clinton's wild and desperate claims these days, it appears. Quite the contrary, actually. They are not only dismissing them, they are actively refuting them.
It's about time common sense prevailed. Wasn't sure the Democrats had it in them.
May 23rd, 2008 12:04 pm ET
Unless the DNC seats the Florida & Michigan delegates and honors the results of those primaries, there will be no party unity, That is a fairy tale.
There are over 18,000,000 people that have voted for Senator Hillary Clinton. We will NOT be falling in line unless the Democratic party does the right thing.
I hope the Democratic party leaders understand there is a good reason why Clinton leads McCain in the big states. She can win and Obama cannot.
–If the DNC does seat FL & MI then the Hillary supporters will find another excuse as to why she lost, and so it goes. As to Hillary being a better candidate against McCain, huh? She couldn't win the Dem nomination. And don't tell me that the polls show her winning against McCain. May polls can't predict Nov results. All of Hillary's arguments are used up. It is time for her to step aside. Then her supporters can either back the nominee or defect. It will make little difference as the huge new Democratic registration wlll overwhelm the crybaby vote.
Praetorian,
Um, not sure where you're getting your numbers But it looks like record numbers of voters are registering as Democrats this year. That's why the Reps are currently very concerned "if we were dog food, they'd take us off the shelf".
But, I'm not opposed to your idea of having a strong third party. Because then, politicians couldn't pander to one set of demographics. Unfortunately for many, that's just not the case this year.
It's your right to vote for whomever you want, including writing in my name. But, doing so in this coming election cycle is a wasted vote and likely alters the outcome (much like 1992 with Perot helping Clinton get in and 2000 when Nader helped Bush get in.) Maybe that's what you really want.
But recognize this, much like Hagee and Parsley coming back on McCain when Wright was so blown up. Bob Barr is running as a 3rd party candidate and he'll likely take some votes from McCain. If he takes enough away in Georgia, Obama can win that state. So, be careful what you ask for.
CNN: According to the latest news, 2 of Edwards' New Hampshire delegates also declared for Obama today.
If the Democratic Party is going to want to survive the latest Clinton Lunacy, super delegates must come out in droves by May 31, so that Obama can declare the nomination BEFORE the DNC Rules panel has its dog and pony show.
FL and MI must be punished, as they decided to break the rules, knowing what the consequences would be.
I don't see how he can say that it's clear that Obama should be the nominee when millions of people are strongly behind Clinton. I know Clinton would win Florida and Michigan if there was a revote. If my vote isn't counted then I'm not voting in November if Clinton isn't the nominee. Clinton has the most experience, she stands for everythng I believe in and so far I haven't seen any substance coming from Obama. People want him because he represents change. What kind of change I ask? Change just for the sake of change is not always good. Clinton tells us what she'll do, Obamma only gives us illusions. Wake up people.
Obama is just a puppet candidate installed by the DNC and the democratic left wingers just to appease the youth vote and to prevent a threatened "blackout of the vote" by African Americans.
But... the youth seldom vote anyway, and African Americans ALWAYS vote democratic without much success. There have only been 2 democrats in the White House in the last 35 years. So, exactly how important and powerful IS the African American vote?
It sure does NOT translate into a win in Nov.
How is Rev. Wright not a reason to not vote for Obama? Let me say this really slow Obama supporters, and see if you can follow this logic.
If you attend a church, do you consider your pastor a spiritual leader? Yes or No? If no, why do you bother to attend?
Do you agree that Rev. Wright's sermons were America-hating and white-hating? Yes or No? If no, please defend your answer, because to this ignorant white woman they sound quite hateful (That was sarcasm, if you are unfamiliar with the concept).
Do you believe that Obama never heard any of Rev. Wright's hate-filled sermons? Yes or No? If you do, you are willfully idiotic.
Obama has mentors, friends and supporters who have declared their hatred for this country. Rev. Wright is only one of many.
Maybe you need to ask yourselves, "Do you hate this country, too?"
WHERES THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. She won CA. Since all the big DEM HEADS have been crying the WILL OF THE PEOPLE for a while. HILLARY CLINTON as a INDEPENDENT this fall. This is one of many LIFLELONG DEMS that will not vote DEMOCRATIC this fall.
I THINK IT'S TIME TO TELL HILLARY THAT SHE CAN'T HAVE HER WAY IN THIS MATTER, SHE WAS ALL RIGHT AS LONG AS SHE WAS AHEAD IN DELEGATES, SHE ALSO AGREED TO MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA BE SUSPENDED DUE TO HOLDING THEIR CONTEST TO SOON. NOW THAT SHE IS BEHIND SHE WANTS THE DEMOCRAT
PARTY TO HERE HER CRY BOOHOO..... I'M THE BETTER CANDIDATE , SEAT FLORIDA'S AND MICHIGAN'S DELEGATES I DON'T CARE IF OBAMA WAS'NT ON THE TICKET GIVE THEM TOO ME NOW! SUPER DELEGATES PLEASE PUT A STOP TOO THIS MADNESS INDORSE OBAMA AND MAKE THIS LITTLE ROTTON GIRL GO AWAY!!!!
I am so to the point now after these months of the campaign trail and the back and forth that I can't even bring myself to vote for any of them. Never did like obama from the beginning. He is just empty...going to unite the country...and how would that happen...hillary, used to be very supportive of her and she would still be my choice because I think she was BUTCHERED by the media and I believe she would pull us out of this terrible mess the bush years have thrust upon our country. mccain, well I actually like him, his life alone gives him credibiltiy but then I am a democrat and not wanting more of the republican pump up the rich at the cost of the rest of us. But then again we don't really elect our president. It is all a big game at the expense of the everyday people. Can't trust any of them.
I know some of you are not good with math, judging by the number of people who believe Clinton is ahead, but I'll try to make this straightforward.
Pick whatever poll you want, but let's say a poll shows Clinton would beat McCain nationally by 8%. That means 54% to 46%, correct? Let's also say that poll shows Obama and McCain are about dead even.
Scenario 1:
If Hillary was to run as an Independent, it would seem logical that the same 46% would vote for McCain, but the 54% Hillary vote would be divided between Obama and Clinton.
Even if she beat Obama 2 to 1 (which is what you gleefully hope to show), the final vote would be something like:
McCain 46%
Clinton 36%
Obama 18%
So you supporters would "win" because she beat Obama?
Scenario 2:
Let's say Obama wins the nomination, but 20% of the 50% Dems write in Clinton. The final then would look like this:
McCain 50%
Obama 40%
Clinton 10%
So now I guess you will have shown your displeasure with not giving Hillary what was "rightfully" hers (hi, Ann...), but see who wins? Remember, Hillary is not on the ballot in this scenario, so unless everyone writes her in, McCain's numbers would reflect his polls against OBAMA.
So, if you don't mind the Republicans winning another four years, go ahead with your protests and make your point. Unless McCain becomes so unpopular that polls show EITHER Democrat would beat him 65% to 35%, you CANNOT make the math work by Hillary running independently or getting written in.
I know this cannot accurately pin down the electoral votes, but if the Dems are splitting things, it won't work.
ThiskkkkkkkkkThis election is no longer about regular people like me but about the part about the party insiders who in the final decision will control who the nominee is. It's a real eye opener. Super delegates should not exisshould not have all this power.
From an unbiased mind:
I am an African-American from the state of FL now residing in the DC Metro area. Earlier this year I was on the fence of who I would chose, but as the campaign progress and I got to learn more about Senator Obama I became more intrigued about his possibility. I wanted to return to the glory days of the 90s w/ the Clintons, but even more so I wanted to see an honest, heart felt change in this country after the past 8 years. I have no party affiliation and I think Senator McCain has some reputable ideas and intentions. Everything really turned for me when Senator Clinton went negative. But not just negative but fearfully and racially negative...it seemed like something out of the page of a Rove/Bush tactic. Then for the news media to fall away from real issues to "water cooler, tabloid" talk was really disheartening for me to see. I Gas has double since last year, I've cut back on half of my grocery list yet still spending about the same, and I was just laid off a month ago – so, change is in real need for me...
I have three honest questions for the Clinton supports: 1) Why would you not support Senator Obama? He has not been as negative toward Clinton as she has been toward him, but yet in still, the other choice may be too much for this country to bear at this time. 2) If Senator Obama had won MI and FL in the same manner as Senator Clinton do you think she would be in such support of bringing these to states back in play? Probably not. 3) Lastly, would she really want him as her VP? Again, probably not – so let's stop pressuring him to make her the VP.
I like Senator McCain, I like Senator Clinton, and I like Senator Obama; and I think all 3 could be Presidents over this wonderful country. But the world and America are ready right now for the vision that Senator Obama will bring. Not including any of the negatives that are media and special interest driven.
I vote for a job in '08; I vote for a stronger international standing in '08; I vote for lower gas prices in '08; I vote for change we can believe in '08; I vote for Obama in '08.
YOur beloved brother Ted Kennedy took Jimmy Carter all the way to the floor so should Hillary because this is just good politics
Lets see now....If Hillary only counts the states she has won and we don't count any of the states Obama has won .....guess what...she would win....is that her next strategy to overcome a loss. Why doesn't she talk about how Billie Boy screwed up with all his stupid preaching that turned many people off....
Go Obama....
The pain of the Clinton supporters is apparent. They are lashing out at everything and everyone. Their candidate takes no responsiblity for her failure. It will be o.k., really. President Obama will make it all better.
How about if all you Obamanots read Foxnews about his lies as a politician...He is no different than anytoher Politician. By the way yesterday he changed his story for the 5th time about Iran!
Do Obama supporters notice that Super Delegates are going his way because he's the presumtive nominee, not because they think he's best.
Hillary's Army threatens to vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee or veep! What a headline! Go ahead – you all deserve each other. What children – sorry examples of womanhood – vindictive and as determined to have it your way as your candidate is.
What happen to Pelosi, Dobbs, Richardson, and Obama himself comments,"The superdelegates shouldn't go against the will of the voters." Where is Pelosi, Dobbs, Richardson, and Obama now, now that Clinton's delegates are going against the will of her voters. All these supporters talked about riots on the street if the the superdegates chose Hillary as the nominee over the will of his voters. These leaders are silent now that the superdelegates are choosing Obama over the will of Hillary's voters. This is another reason to vote for McCain this year, because of the corruption and dishonesty coming from the democratic party. Besides, McCain seems to be a better candidate anyway as a moderate republican.
We need to stop telling Hillary to stand down...and instead DEMAND THAT THE REMAINING UNCOMMITTED DELEGATES STAND UP AND DECIDE. They are the ones hurting Democracy in America...not Hillary.
CLINTON SUPPORTERS!!!!!
Please wake up and stop the stupid accusations. There will be a place for her , but not President nor Vice President. You guys are unreal.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
It's time to get this over with!
Even with FL and MI Sen. Clinton will not receive all of the Delegates, which mean she still can not over take Obama. Sen. Clinton should have care about the little state when it matter. Now she wants to pretend she care. Give us a break and stop being so phooooony.
I don’t want to support a president who do not have a plan B in the event that plan A don’t work. But if Sen. Clinton manage to get the nominee I will vote for her, because I am a true democrat. My loyalty lies with the DEMOCRAT PARTY NOT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL. I have routed for the democrat nominee who ever they were for years whether I like them or not, which leads me to believe you who say because Sen. Clinton don’t get the nominee are not true democrats as simple as that and just plan crazy.
Obama to reach 2026 minus 1965 needs 61 more votes for the nominee.
Clinton to reach 2026 minus 1779 needs 247 more votes for the nominee.
Who do you think will get there first?
We have DEMOCRATS who say they won’t vote for OBAMA, but we have just as many REPUBLICANS who say they will. Just something to think about for you CLINTON SUPPORTS who won’t support OBAMA.
It sounds like an EVEN TRADE TO ME, except the cross over REPUBLICANS is getting the better part of the deal. Just my 2 cents or 1.
Now is the time to SHANK HANDS, KISS and make up to get ahead of the game.
Just my view as an under educated voter against the well educated voter.
Obama 08!
I went to the Nevada convension and it was a dissaster, all of the Obama people change the rules at the last minute, and they pretend to be Hillary supporters to get the us to vote for them as elected delegates. These people have no shame and are liars and decietful just like thier leader. Obama supporter are the most hateful, vile people Ive seen in a long time, their hate is what guides their vote, they look like idiots wearing those hideous t-shirts like his some kind of rock star( gross). they are rude and very offensive towards African Americans that are Hillary Supporters and Senior Citizens, If I hadn't seen it first hand I would have tought it was a lie, this cult need to be stopped or they will ruin our nation.
This is why many of us will stand by our word and vote Hillary or McCain.
We are with you Hillary all the way to the convension!
Keep saying McCain will will if it makes you feel better because in reality he doesn't stand a chance.
And the sheep keep falling in line, so they'll be in good with the likely winner . . .
Sickening.
It appears some of Hillary Clintons supporters feel that the primary is not over. I think this is one of the biggest disappointments of the Clinton campaign. Sen. Clinton is having people ignorantly donating to her campaign, and they truly believe that she has a chance.
The primary has been over for a while folks. Just like Mccain with the republicans, Obama is the presumtive candidate until the convention. If you need to vote McCain because the Obama campaign ran a better campaign and because Hillary WAS NOT ready on day one... then so be it. But don't let the Clinton campaign bamboozle you much longer. The fall is going to be hard no matter what, but extending it or worse, not accepting it, will only make things more difficult.
Senator Clinton is approaching the place where an elegant exit is almost beyond her reach. Senator Clinton is an extaordinary person.
However I for one am beginning to questioned, is this determination to go on about
(U.S.) or about HILLARY.
PEACE
What a mess! When rules are made BEFORE the start of the race, everyone agrees, signs a pledge, and their off and running, you can't start changing the rules to suit one of the competitors. If the popular vote counts, the caucus voters are disinfranchised, let it go! Change the rules before 2012 election. No matter what the outcome is now, someone will be disinfranchised. Hillary did in fact do some campaigning in Fla under the guise of "fundraising", I watched it on TV. This is a very big example of unsportsmanship. Hillary is acting like a lobbyist in her own special interest. Trying to create further uproar by cheating. This is not a good example to set for honest, rule and law abiding Americans. When democracies rules are trashed, anarchy will follow. Learn from history.
The superdelegates are playing politics of damage control.
The party and the DNC made the early mistake of pushing Obama on the voters. It backfired badly as voters refused to go along with fixed elections.
Then there was an even bigger backlash to the terrible, biased and hateful treatment of the better candidate. This just caused people to support HRC all the more and to vow NEVER to vote for Obama.
The superdelegates are throwing their support behind the weaker candidate in an effort to save the party and salvage a win in Nov.
It won't work because the people realize that of the 3 candidates, Clinton is the best and Obama is the worst choice.
In fact, Obama reveals more and more weakness every day.
Is pandering to African Americans and the youth worth losing the White House by installing the left wing radical elitist that no one will vote for?
I can only sit here and be amazed at the lack of knowledge and ignorance that you Obama supporters have. If his racism doesn't stop you, his wife's lack of patriotism doesn't stop you, the fact that he cannot put two words together and has everything written for him doesn't stop you, his lies don't stop you and lack of patriotism (holding his jewels while the national anthem was playing) then by all means you all deserve your faith. Are you Americans really that stupid? Please wake up before it's too late!!
She is staying in to see if she can 1) Pay of her debts 2) Get a VP slot 3) or get anything on her way out. Sort of like on your last day at work, you just want to get anything you can.
Somebody is soundly asleep.
Is she up yet?
Sherri Jones said on May 23rd, 2008 12:16 pm ET
I'm so sick of the superdelegates switching sides before the nomination!
This Democrat will never support Obama!
Hillary is the only one who can get this country out of the mess we are in. But if I don't my 1st. choice. Guess I will be switching parties this election.
This position continues to baffle me. First, if Hillary is the only one who can fix this country..why vote for anyone else period let alone the opposition party. But, c'mon who is closer to Hillary on the issues Obama or McCain?
Someone please exlpain the logic to me.
Ok, one last time. The subject of race was brought by the Clintons. When that did not get the results they wanted, they turned to the sexist issue. Just face the facts...you ran an unorganized campaign and lost
Some people here keep saying that Obama's inexperience and isn't Presidential material. I say look at all that Obama has accomplished, exciting younger voting blocks, older adults who have never voted before, and opening a lot of people's eyes to the politico process. If he can achieve that, he can do so much more. Please stop being negative and saying he isn't Presidential or a leader, when he's proved and still proves that he's qualified and a great leader. I hope those of you who once supported Hillary will help support Obama to beat McCain, because we all deserve a better life and a stable environment. We need to refocus on the United States, end the war, and helping the future generation become more competitive in this globalized world. Democratics need to unite for a better future!
Watching from afar, I found it very interesting to see a comment on the Cafferty file from a person in Florida who made the point that "because he knew the Florida voting would *not* count, he didn't bother to vote." Makes sense. NOW - Clinton wants the delegates counted and claims not to count them would disenfranchise all those voters. *BUT what about those who did not vote such as this individual who said he didn't because he knew it wouldn't count? To now count those who did vote would most certainly disenfranchise those like him and there are probably many such people. The only way I can see to settle this is to have the PRIMARY all over again in Florida and Michigan. CNN doesn't seem to mention very often that Obama's name wasn't on the Michigan ballot. It would be interesting to see how result had he been on the ballot would it not? How Clinton and her followers can claim victory in Michigan and Florida is beyond me - and they do it with serious faces. They must think everyone is a fool to believe the likes of that!
Wow, two more politicians come out to fool the Americans and choose defeat in Nov.
hillary is now trying to mucle her way unto the ticket. Obama will correctly resist her but he needs help from all right thinking people ( uncommitted super delegates included)
Obama has demonstrated the important qualities needed in a leader of such a diverse country. He is steady, thoughful, intelligent, visionary inspirational and honest!
Hillary has demonstrated tenacity and determination, also good qualities, however some of the arguments she has recently made in her bid to sway voters and super delegates, like the" FL and MI must count as is" are tantamount to being dishonest. Do we really need such a president? I think not. the experience that Hillary and Mccain have is precisely the kind of exprience that has caused the mental paralysis Obama wants to rid this country of. it is not that we do not have ideas to deal with the countries issue, it is the division and influence of interested parties that make sure that big problems are never resolved.
John Mccain also seems like he could be more of a uniter. Unfortunately he is stuck on the wrong side of change. He has had to abandon some of his core beliefs in order to be where he is today and that suggests he would be unduly pressured in office.
Of the three canidates left Obama seems to be the only one who understands this and is willing to do what is necessary to end the paralysis nd division and move this country forward.
I want to see Obama's and Clinton's medical reports! I will not vote for them unless I see them come out. What types of lesions are on these 2 people. What may come up within the next 4 years on Clinton and Obama ? Does Obama have high blood pressure? Are Hillary's hormones on track? I want to know. I am a Democrat. However, I felt it so sleazy that McCain had to advertize his melanoma, etc.
What is good for one should be good for all. I want to know
How the heck did Obama make it this far on just lofty rhetoric and empty promises of change?
Day by day he reveals more insurmountable political weaknesses.
He is still trying to figure out where HE stands on the issues. In typical fashion, Obama keeps redefining his position until he hits it right with the people he tries to pander to.
This guy is all hype and no substance.
Even the superdelegates can not save him.
I am curious Paul, what facts do you have to support your contention that Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing? What facts do you have to support your contention that Obama is a media golden boy? What facts do you have to support your contention that Obama hates American? I love it when people start spouting off silly ideas that have absolutely no basis in fact. Some of you cry because you don’t want McCain to win the election but refuse to vote for Obama, like that makes a lot of sense. If you want a republican in office then vote McCain, if you want a democrat vote Obama, if you don’t care then don’t vote. It should would be nice if we all could have rational, adult conversations about the election based in fact and not paranoia, rumor, and innuendo.
This is more great news!
I am a former Republican and I support Barack Obama!
OBAMA 08 & 12!
Michiganders just love Barack!
Hillary supporters are not going to support Obama in the convention and in November, so he can try all he wants to win us. The point is that Hillary will be running again in the next 4 years, because Obama is going to be crashed in November. I want to state it right now, I will stay away in November.
Probably it is the right time for HRC to drop out of Democratic Party and run as an independent, she can still win and save USA.
I wouldn't mind seeing this go all the way to the convention. Who cares? If gives all candidates more time to talk about issues. Isn't this what we all wanted? Solutions to current problems in America?
I'm an Obama supporter, but not a democrat through and through. Instead of picking a candidate based solely on party affiliation, I chose to look at the issues and align myself with whom it was that I felt closest to. I don't understand why each of the supporters for both candidates can't see past this fact...are people really that ignorant?
Hillary Clinton has known she would not get the nomination since Super Tuesday. She is now running for the 2012 nomination. She has stayed in this race to drag down Barack Obama. She needs Obama to lose in November so she can run again in 4 years.
No matter what happen obama have to include Clinton to the ticket,i knew is not going to be easy for him,but he have to do it.