I didn't see anything here about the Obama /McCain fight . Or can't cnn print it because it shows just how stupid obama is? It shows his lack of knowledge about the armed forces. Why don't you guys print something we all want to read?

Here come the destruction of the Democratic Party. This is a terrible situation when the Democratics are winning in the house and for Hillary to destroy the Democratic party by going to court. Now she, instead of uniting the Democratic Party, is handing it over to the Republican Party. Doesn't McCain just love this, another gift for McCain. Is one sore loser going to destroy the Democratic Party?

Obama '08

Ann May 22nd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

"I don't think she's desperate….I think she expects to get what is rightfully hers."

How is the presidency rightfully hers? Typical Clintonite, believing in Hilary's so-called entitlement to the White House.

Paterson is spelled with one "t", not two.

If her own top supporters are saying this in public then why does she still demand this nonsense?

She agreed to the punishmentthinking it wouldn't hurt her chances, now that she needs those states she sucks up again?

I respect her tenacity but I don't respect her 'flexibility' about the rules when she thinks it suits her.

'Leaving it where it is' would disenfranchise democratic voters in 2 states. If this is what the dems want, fine, but they can't win the general election that way. The blame if any should be placed on Dr. Dean who continued to repeat "the rules, the rules" like a robot. Hillary is trying so hard to restore some common sense to this process, but I fear her efforts are wasted. They often steal her ideas, while criticizing her and putting her down, for no other reason than she is a woman. Anyone who has ever worked with males recognizes this scenario.
Remember when obama said 'she's likeable enough' -imagine if she had said that about him.. oh, no she had to say she had the utmost respect for him.. I hope she turns down VP, takes a nice vacation, writes another book, and continues to lead and guide this country from the senate floor, where she no doubt will accomplish more than whoever is the new president. She will be the next Ted kennedy , a 'lion' in the senate, long after the '08 president is forgotten.

If Obama is not on the ticket in November, I will write in his name !!!

Never Hillary
Never Clinton

Only Obama '08

I would still vote for Hillary just because she is a woman. She may not be the best canaditate for President but I think we should have a woman President regardless.

It would also give Bill the opportunity to go back to the White House for another 8 years. He could help her if she doesn't know what to do.

He would be like the Vice President. In fact she could make him Vice President.

Hold ON Hillary don't give up just because you losing. Fight on even if you damage the party. We can still have another 4 years of MaCain. He seems alot like President Bush.

I am LOLing to all the CLINTON supporters. The more nasty comments you leave just proves who you are as people. NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.

This man is not a Hillary supporter. HILLARY CLINTON as a INDEPENDENT this fall. This is a LIFELONG DEMOCRAT who with many of his friends and family would vote for her as a INDEPENDENT. Otherwise not voting at all.

This guy is dead on the money. So dead on the money Hillary will probably take his job as soon as the NY Governorship is up.

"I move for no man."

"Just a flesh wound."

"I'm invincible!"

" Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw."

“Come back here… I’ll bite your legs off!”

I believe that most everyone wants to allow the Michigan and Florida delegations to participate at the convention. However, it is pretty obvious that the goal of the Clinton supporters is to win the nomination, and this is an avenue toward that end. The solution must not unfairly advantage either candidate.

How do we know how many people would have come out and voted if they knew the results would be counted? What would the results have been had there been campaigning (Obama has closed gaps in every state he campaigned in)? How would Michigan have turned out if Obama's and Edwards' names were on the ballot (and don't say they pulled their names off – Hillary was supposed to and reneged on her pledge)? You can't use the votes as is – simply not a fair solution.

Florida and Michigan voters, you should know who stripped your delegates. The 29 – 1 vote included 12 key Clinton supporters, including Harold Ickes. The lone dissenting vote – by an Obama supporter.

Terry McAuliffe to Carl Levin when Levin said that Michigan was going to violate the DNC rules and move its convention. Levin had said, "You won't deny us seats at the convention."

McAuliffe, "Carl, take it to the bank. The will not get a credential. The closest they'll get will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules. If you want to call my bluff, Carl, you go ahead and do it."

From the book, "What a Party" by Terry McAuliffe

Hillary is just plain wrong for insisting on seating the delegates in Florida and Michigan. Both states clearly knew what was at stake if they chose to conduct their primaries early, and yet they did so anyway. It is blatantly unfair to now seek to change the rules, in effect saying, "Now that I'm losing, I want to count the votes and delegates of those states after all." This shows a clear lack of integrity on her part, as well as selfishness. In continuing to beat this drum, she is showing her true colors. She purports to champion "change" but her actions show just how slippery she really is. I wouldn't want her in the White House.

I think someone upstream someone said Obama supporters hate Hilary.? By no means. But, I do see a lot Hilary supporters acting like children picking up their marbles and going home (ie not voting or voting for McCain)because they are not winning. Peole need to grow up.

If not Hillary….then McCain May 22nd, 2008 5:39 pm ET
Ok everyone, here are the facts….the caucus states were strong-armed by the Obama campaign, plain and simple. Texas-two-step, time and location of caucuses and intimidation
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I'm from Texas, try again. The list of excues why Hillary's behind just keep growing and growing and growing.

Caucases, sexism, reverse racism, FL & MI, media… Maybe Hillary lost because she ran a bad campaign and came into the primary wswith over 50% negative rating. What's next? I'm almost afraid to ask.

OBAMA supporters,
When a Republican tells you that ending the war in Iraq and leaving Iraq is equivalent to Surrender tell them this;

FIRST GEORGE BUSH ALREADY DECLARED VICTORY, SO HOW CAN WE SURRENDER WHEN WE HAVE ALREADY WON.
THEN TELL THEM ALSO, THAT WHAT IS OBTAINING IN IRAQ IS NOT A WAR, BUT A CIVIL RESISTANCE TO OCCUPATION IN WHICH AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE ACTING AS POLICEMEN AND NOT SOLDIERS. THEY ARE NOT TRAINED FOR THAT, THEY ARE SOLDIERS.
THEN ASK THEM WHAT THEY DEFINE AS VICTORY.

OBAMA 08, 12

Why are people so dead set against having the people in Michigan and Florida get to vote? The people voting aren't the ones that made the decision to change the date. People call Hillary desperate, but at least she is "desperate" on the side of counting everyone's vote; it seems that Obama has been desperate not to count everyone's vote. You people quote the arbitrary rules like this is a game and all that matters is who wins and who loses. God forbid the goal be to serve the good of the people by following their will.

We will soon see that the DNC will uphold their decision…they MUST; otherwide, what does their leadership and decision-making abilities mean?

The DNC should carefully look at ANY support given to HRC presently or in the future. She's not only taking on Barack Obama now, but is leading the opposition against the party…where is her loyalty and respect?

I think we should all count ourselves very very lucky that this woman did not get further than what she did in this contest. Clearly, it's "me, me, me" and nothing else in her eyes…simply because she thinks she's better and deserves it. Very sad and sick and even dangerous.

Clinton's pride is wounded and she cannot understand why people aren't falling into a "goosestep" behind her.

Don't go away mad Hil', just go away

to If not Hillary….then McCain

Hillary is not only a bully, but she is an arrogant bully. She has manipulated the rules and then her followers have the nerve to claim Obama is the one in fault. If you are going to vote to McCain, go vote for him and quit your whinny, and then live with the results of another 4 years of republican screw-ups.

PS. Most of us are sick of you sore loosers.

Good for Patterson, Now when are some of the other die hards going to see the light?

Hillary Clinton is a disgrace and should start thinking of her legacy. In addition, lets recount, especially Michigan (home of many college towns.) Remember Obama has the educated vote…

Hillary bringing back bigotry '08

Barack has nothing to do with the reason Michigan and Florida aren't being seated at the moment. I wish people would stop blaming this man for something he has no control over!!!

Blah Blah blah…I'm sick of it!! If you want to vote for McBush…be my guest. It's time for Hillary to get out of this race! This has gotten old…and it isn't helping the Dem party one bit!!!

Clinton has always been desperate to be president!

The governor also said that Hillary was the best candidate with the best chance of winning.

I think it is time to start getting the party together. Hilary can finish the primary but after june 3, she needs to let us win that election.
We are the ones we have been waiting for!

Obama 08!

couldn't have said it better 'sick and tired'

This is to Mai, why did Hillary agree to these rules and sign that she agreed to them. Do you honestly think that she would be trying to get them counted if she where ahead? Many of her campaign staff were a part of the decision to ignore MI and FL. I really think you are smart enough to know that this was not Obama's decision. And if you don't have rules and enforce them, all of the states would be trying to change the dates of their primaries. And Hillary doesn't want to count the caucus's–is this Obama's fault? It's time to look honestly at your candidate and see that what she is doing is no better than what many criminals do–"but the rules are SO unfair!!!"

none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

Patterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

THANK YOU GOVERNOR, SIR

Enough of this spilled milk..! IF i coulda..IF I shoulda..IF I Woulda….

To Michigan Dem

Well said. I could not agree with you more.

The DNC and Mad Dog Dean and the DNC rules committee have successfully demolished the party and it cannot recover. Another party will have to be built from the ashes. Good riddance to a party that cannot even govern itself, much less a country.

"Is this a 48 state union or as oabma says '57 with one to go'.

This will have to be settled by a judge.

It should go all the way.

This LONG primary run has made the weaklings like 'Judas' , Edwards, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Dean – all lose sight of what's ahead. These are the people ruining the party and blaming Hillary for that.

I hope the party got rid of these spine-less members- somehow.

If Obama was unelectable, he would not be heading towards the nomination! Come with better logic.

Hillary has the desperation of INSANITY….

No VP for this lunatic

I have never seen more power hungry, self-absorbed, people as these Clintons. It's all about them. Go away and take your gutter politics with you. OBAMA 08′

Interesting that Hillary says the votes must be counted as they were cast to reflect all voters. Of course she neglects to worry about those in Michigan that voted for other and couldn't vote for the candidate of their choice who may or may not have been Obama.

Really what Hillary is saying is that it is all about counting all the votes for her. It really is about her, not the American people!!

LOVE CNN ANYWAY.

I heard Hillary went on American Idol yesterday and screamed out at the top of her lungs.

‘I’m not giving up. I’m staying in this contest until every vote has been counted……..oh, make sure you just count the states that pick me!

Simon resonded, “Hillary, I don’t want to be rude but can you get off the stage. We need to pick a real winner”

I am so tired of hearing bad comments about Hillary Clinton. From day one she has insisted that Michigan and Florida should be seated. Obama even agree's. She has not broke any rules. The so-called rules you all refer to were not to campaign in those states. There was no rule about name's on ballots.

Hillary should be our nominee, the media and an organized effort by the Obama camp have distorted her message. It will take a Clinton to get a democrat in the White House. Obama can not win without Hillary. The DNC will not offend AA's by giving the nomination to the person who actually can win. Therefor we will have an Obama/Clinton ticket,,,because Hillary actually carries the major democrats we need to get elected.

With supporters like Patterson, who needs enemies? Hillary is the BEST candidate. What is she suppose to do sit back and be submissive and tell the DNC "Good 'ol Boys" that this is too much hastle for her; she gives up. Would they expect a football team to quit the game minutes before the clock runs out just because they are behind. No! They would expect them to fight as hard as they can until the gun goes off. Then why does it seem so rediculous to people that Hillary keeps on fighting until someone has WON? Not just BEEN PROCLAIMED the winner by the media.
It is not outrageous to go to the Convention without a winner.
JOHN KENNEDY DID NOT WIN ON THE FIRST BALLOT AT THE CONVENTION AND HE DI D WIN IN NOVEMBER.

So when people in the media say that anytime there was arguing at the convention the party did not win – these people ARE MISLEADING THE PUBLIC.

Desperate? We have been in the Twilight Zone for a while now.

The DNC is totally out of control. Howard Dean is useless.

The blind leading the blind-obama followers–go back to your mistress!

Who is this Deb clown that claims Obama cheated? HRC AGREED to not count the votes in FL and MI. PLEASE ASK YOURSELF PEOPLE, WHY DO YOU KEEP TRYING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF THAT YOU DISLIKE OBAMA FOR OTHER REASONS THAN HIM BEING BLACK.?? He is not a thug, he is not Rev. Wright (what about McCains anti-Jew pastor). He is a charasmatic, brilliant community service man that can and will make a diffrence in this country. His Senate record is MORE ACOMPLISHED than Hillary Clinton. Being first lady does not make you "co-president". Where on earth is all this experience that she boasts about? The rules have always been the rules, and now that they are not in her favor, she wants them changed. By the way, the reason Obama does so much better among educated people is because just that!! They are educated!! They are not living in the back woods with the incest rednecks and KKK members. Keep your vote, stay home or vote for McCain, we don't want your stupid vote anyway. Keep living in poverty because your narrow prejudice mind won't vote for the "black guy" no matter how qualified he really is. We are in a different place and time and this man can and WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Key words that he you was he "Thought she was", now by thinking it to be so in the begining don't make it right….

Please post this correction to my above posted comment:

"Kerry was weak and his wife was appealing as a first lady."

I meant to write: His wife was UNappealing as first lady.
That's one of the reasons Kerry lost. It will be the same with Obama.

It is now time to quit! Thanks for playing in the thing called the democratic proccess. Better luck next time.

Not one delegate has voted yet. The convention is in August. FL and MI should have been counted. Everyone in those states were told their vote wouldn't matter. The problem is that they turned out in record numbers. The other problem is that we need these two states to win the White House. No worries. It's Clinton or it is nothing.

Mary May 22nd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

I just came back from a parallel universe where Hillary was in the lead and laughing at the notion of allowing FL & MI.

She kept on saying, my opponent is desperate. He wants to change the rules AGAIN. How can we now change the rules at this late stage in the game? My opponent agreed to these rules in 2007. We need a president that abides by the rules.

The point is, would Hillary fight this hard if FL & MI would benefit Obama?

Can we call this more SNIPER FIRE and call it a day?
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YES, MARY…SHE WOULD!!!

I love HILLARY'S determination and experience. We need her her on our side. She will make a great president. Obama will lose to Mcain like Kerry did. Democrats!, wake up, we need HILLARY. GO HILLARY!!

eb

I'm just waiting to see if this election is stolen from him or not. We'll see May 31, 2008 when the Dems meet. I'm starting to think that she knows she lost but is still in it to force his hand at being Vice President. This woman says she'll campaign until August. If that's not sabbatage then what is. She'll keep the party split until August if he doesn't put her on the ticket. August is way to close to the General Election. At first I thought they would be wonderful together but Hillary has totally turned me off. She lies, she cries, and wants rules changed to suit her. Very conniving. She's an opportunist and is taking advantage of the Michigan and Florida citizens. She's playing on their emotions. If Hilary had contested the ruling of Florid and Michigan being seated in the begining I would still have respect for her. You can't change the rules because you're loosing. She feels like she deserves the nomination when actually it has to be earned.

You got that right Big Rod!!!

Well, I suppose it must be crying times for all of you Democrats and Republicans. It appears as though it is difficult for some of your candidates to follow the rules. At last! Rules are made to be broken are they not? Imagine a little child witnessing and adult temper-trantrum which is no less than what Senators Clinton and McCain seemingly are having. The truth is the light and Senator Obama is going to be the next President of these United States of America unless the states Senator Clinton carried decide to succeed from the Union afterall, the white rural vote or perhaps blue-collar votes is the only one that matters. Hmmm! I better think twice about that before I answer again.

alrighty,
to those individuals that ontinue to insist that obama will win without these states…I feel sorry for you… do you not understand the electorl system. you cold win 35 small states but without michigan, fl, NY, CA, TX, OH, you won't take the election. I'm not sure who thinks texas is a swing state but…wake up and smell the oil companies it's a red to the end.
so for all you clinton haters take moment to turn down the rhetoric and actually become informed on the issues…
a young, half african american clinton supporter.

I am completely baffled and disappointed by the Clinton campaign. I do not understand how one agrees to rules of fair play (regardless of personal opinion of the rules) and once the the rules do not play to your favor, you lobby officials, the public, the media, and who ever will listen to change the rules you agreed to in the beginning. In sports, that would be condemned as bad sportmanship. I cannot respect her present stance. From taunting unfair media coverage to sexism to biased DNC rules, her entire argument is flawed. Both Obama and Clinton have endured tough scrutiny during their campaigns. Both candidates can make a case for why he or she had a disadvantage. To become America's FEMALE presidential candidate is a weak stance to take. That is the equivalent of Obama being merely America's BLACK presidential candidate. It is limiting and disappointing to regulate yourself to a category and use those limitations as a platform to win. Additionally, I was HIGHLY offended for a Senator I respected to state a viable candidate cannot appeal to "hardworking, white Americans". How could any Clinton supporter agree with those comments and condemn the Rev. Wright's comments as racist and unpatriotic? Fair play is fair play for all!

People are just now seeing signs of desperation in Hillary?

NO KIDDING

OBAMA/HAGEL 2008

What a turn-coat! And this guy considers himself Senator Clinton’s friend and supporter. With friends like this, really, who needs enemies? Give ME a break!

I wonder if Governor Patterson has been coursed by Senator Obama and his supporters. His campaign has been accused of doing just that in Texas and other states. Nothing would surprise about Senator Obama and his campaign's tactics.

May the Lord help us!

"Getting" desperate? I think Hillary's campaign has clearly been in desperation mode for months. All this garbage about Florida and Michigan only serves to upset the voters of those states, thereby making them less likely to vote democratic in the general election.

Hillary is not going to win the nomination. Staying in the race only produces negative consequences for the dems. She needs to look past herself and her ego and admit defeat.

Deb wrote May 22nd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

I know that Obama and his thugs have stolen this Primary season.
I will never vote for a cheater!

Really, does that mean you're not voting for Hillary either?!

For the Clintons, the rules are the rules until they don't suit them.
Her threat to take the issue to the convention should be a clear signal that she cares nothing at all for the party. In a year when it should be a cakewalk, her scortched earth campaign endangers the democrats chance for victory this fall. I deeply suspect she wants to ensure Obama's defeat so she can run again in 2012. Hell,she may run again even if he wins. But if he loses, it will be at her feat and she should not be forgiven.

Sorry O Lovers…she will win and it will be with all 50 states counted.

If Hillary would get out of the race she'd be old news within hours……….

(as the Rolling Stones put it)
You can't always get what you want…………..

It's awesome that all the Hillary supporters NOW have a problem with the system. No one complained when they thought Queen Hillary would win the nomination by a landslide. But not the system is broken. Shesh.

WITH FRIENDS LIKE YOU, PATTERSON, WHO NEEDS ENEMIES…….

READ THE LATEST ???? HILLARY BEATS MCCAIN IN THE BIG SWING STATES OF OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA AND FLORIDA. BO LOSES TO MCCAIN IN OHIO AND FLORIDA AND ONLY SLIGHTLY BEATS HIM IN PENNSYLVANIA.

HILLARY….. YOU GO, GIRL. WHAT A WOMAN!!! WITH YOU ALL THE WAY. EEEEEEEEE…….HAAAAAAAAA !

Thank God at least some of her supporters are coming to accept honest priciples of running a presidential campaign.

Hillary IS desperate to the point that she is not only giving herself and the female populace a bad name and possibly ruining any and all chances of one being elected in the near future!

I would like to personally call for all of her supporters to be reasonable and at least reconsider your acceptance of her moral character in this race. If it was Obama making these outright demands so late in the game would you be accepting of this? They both have experienced negative comments about their beings Obama, he's black and Hillary is woman how would you feel if Obama or someone on his team had been making negative comments or hinting just enough to incite people against Hillary'being a woman in the race, then when all else seem to fail he uses race as a defense and reason for him losing the race. Oh! Hillary has done all that she knows to do to be considerate to Obama even to the point that people were calling her weak . Now after all of this his supporters demand that he be given the chance to win changing the rule of the party!

How would you feel. How do you open your mouth to say you are still in agreement with Hillary and dare to say she is the one that best to represents our nation's highest office and what you want for America? How can you say she is the example you want for yours and America's daughters????

Hillery, You are only hollering because you are so far behind.in delegates. If you were ahead, you would not even consider MI & FL. You don't seem to care if we can see what you are doing. YOU ARE CAUSING THE DEMS WHO BACK YOU TO LOOK STUPID TOO – GOING TO WASINGTON, PROTESTING A RULE YOU AGREED UPON. YOU ARE SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. I HAVE A SON IN JAIL WHO COMMITED CRIMES BECAUSE OF DRUGS. IF YOU GET YOUR WAY – I THINK MY SON SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SERVE TIME FOR BREAKING THE RULES OF THE LAW. OR IS THAT DIFFERENT – BECAUSE IT DON'T EFFECT YOU?

Well at least some of her supporters can be logical about all this. To count some votes and not others is what she is arguing about. She wants those who voted for to be franchised and those that didnt to be disinfranchised. I for one will never vote with her name on the ticket even as VP..

Getting desperate?!?!?…………… it started with Iowa
Go Obama & ABC anyone but clinton…………

you people are stupid go back to the 3rd grade if yo u dont seet the fact you dont see it this is like a football team both agreeing on a penalty after the other team loses they go back and say the other penalty shudnt have counted because is not right and blah blah….and if you feminists if i can call you guys that wanna cote for maccain just do it and shut up…But i must warn you wte you faught for will all be undone but am sure you guys are ok with that so go vote for maccain and as for you guys trying to say is going to be bad news for our kids if hillary dont win, well i guess you might as well teach your kids how to cheat if something dont go they way…. Sooo sick of idiotic people just shut up and vote for maccain if u want

Hillary please go on a long cruise until this is all over.

Are you too afraid to post this? There is NO reason to delete my posts! No reason at all except that you want censor the board!

The headline should read that the governor thought Hillary was the BEST CANDIDATE and had the BEST CHANCE OF WINNING.

clinton is definitely NOT experiencing a little desperation. She is in a full blown, artery bustin' panic ! ! !

Chris in California wrote the following:

"Moreover, as a lifelong Democrat, I will not so easily hand over my country to a person who thinks it is all right to exclude the voters of two states in this union to manipulate things so that he can steal an election."

With all due respect Chris, Senator Clinton by agreeing NOT to allow the votes in Florida and Michigan to count, is the (to quote you) "person who thinks it is all right to exclude the voters of two states in this union to manipulate things so that he can steal an election."

Of course, the same could be said for Senator Obama but please do not paint him as the bad guy since he was simply following the rules of his party (rules let me remind you that were written by Senator Clinton's greatest defender, Harold Ickes).

"Chris in California" — you're willing to turn the country over to a woman who AGREED TO EXCLUDE TWO STATES before she realized she needed them. What a HYPOCRITE!!!

Deb May 22nd, 2008 4:55 pm ET: "I know that what I witnessed in our "Texas Two Step" was horrifying! What happened wasn't close to meeting election laws and it was not democratic! It is why I know that Obama and his thugs have stolen this Primary season."

I too had the "Texas Two Step" experience. The caucuses were a total sham, and the results from many could not even be certified. You have to know something is not right when one candidate wins the primary election and the other candidate wins the caucuses IN THE SAME STATE.

Sen. Clinton has shown that if the rules do not benefit her then they should be changed. Pres. Bush has shown us time and again that rules need not be obeyed and look at the sorry state of this country. The world leaders no longer respect the U.S.

Sen. Clinton the U.S. does not need another president who can not respect the rules. You are a very scray person because you have shown that you will do, or say anything to get what YOU WANT. Ethics, fair play, and honesty are not in your personal make-up. Please do not think I am making these comments because of sexism or anything else that you have accused your non-supporters of practicing.
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It was positive to see someone so close and supportive of the Clinton campaign speak honestly about the realities of the primary process. Yes, Florida and Michigan knew the rules.
Yes, Florida and Michigan voted to go against the rules.
Yes, Florida and Michigan were penalized by both the DNC & RNC
Yes, All the presidential candidates knew of the penalty
Yes, Senators Clinton & Obama both approved of the penalty
Yes, Senator Clinton did flip-flop on the issue when she began losing
No, Senator Obama is not suppressing anyone's right to vote.

If your a Clinton supporter, that is your right and she has been a strong senator. However, Senator Obama is going to be the nominee so your continued negative attacks serve no purpose. If you want to vote for Senator McCain, that is your right. Just don't use the excuse that your voting for Senator McCain to get even with Senator Obama for winning his party's nomination. That type of logic makes no sense and will continue to divide our nation.

Clinton's pious, self-serving efforts to "count all the votes" is alarmingly hypocritical. She was fine with these rules when she didn't think they had any impact on her candidacy. Now she wants to change the rules in the ninth inning because she is behind. She never apologizes or even recognizes the fact that she once agreed with these rules. She never mentions that many Florida democrats probably didn't vote because they felt it wouldn't matter. She ignores the fact that Obama didn't campaign in Florida, which would surely have changed the vote count. In Michigan, Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot, and she seems to think it is OK to give him no votes in Michigan. And where is the media in all of this? Why don't they press her hard on her 'change the rules until the score comes out in your favor' approach? I once had a vague unease about her, but couldn't pin it down. Now I know what she is … a self-serving hypocrite who cares too little about the truth or the damage she is doing to the chances of the democrats this Fall. She has transformed my vague unease to a powerful dislike and lack of trust.

Thank God! Someone else who has no problem stating the FACTS/TRUTH that Hillary signed on the dotted line like everyone else to "disenfranchise" (her words now) the voters of these two states. Actually, the penalty was imposed by the DNC not Clinton or Obama. It is the fact that Hillary has manipulated this sitatuion into a negative and unfair blame against Obama in the eyes of voters in both MI/FL and a talking point for her in this "any road will do the the White House" mentality that is running her insane.

I agree the delegates should be seated and that they need to castrate all of their elected officials that brought about this disaster. What I can't abide by is Sen. Clinton using the emotions of these voters whom a disservice was done too and make it appear as if Sen. Obama was the man behaind the means.

Hillary is nowhere near as desperate as Barrack Obama–he must be having a stroke about now–knowing that she could beat McCain and he could not–love it–Go Hill!

GO HOME CLINTON….WHO WANTS A LIAR

Yet another intelligent, sensible Super Delegate, who has come to recognize "the real" Hillary Clinton. I would urge him to take it a step further, and officially back Senator Obama. Barrack Obama has continually conducted himself as Presidential, while she clealry has not. I thought Saturday night live was a bit harsh a couple weeks ago, depicting Hillary as a "sore looser", but wow- they hit the nail on the head. DNC, make us proud. Be strong. Stick to your guns. Don't let Florida officials steal this election like in 2000.

the desperate ones are howard dean and the dnc. they know obama can't win the general. once all the hillary loyalist (over 17 million) of us leave the democratic party, and register independent, it will be 4 more years of the republicans. superdelegates if you want to win the whitehouse back vote hillary, obama can't beat mccain, he can't even beat hillary!

It sounds like Patterson's initial support for Hillary was based on his perception that "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning." Now that it is obvious that she has no chance of winning, perhaps Patterson should use the present tense and say "I think he is the best candidate and I think he has the best chance of winning…" Just hope and pray that Billary is not selected for the co-VP spot – America does not need TWO VPs.

Hillary is making a fool of herself. I don't even want her as VP, now. She is an insult to feminists and the democratic party. She is acting like a spoiled brat.

There are two points which I think are determinative about Florida and Michigan.

First, the way these primaries were scheduled was beyond the control of the Democratic Party membership in the respective states. Given that, and given that public money, taxpayer's money, was spent to conduct these primaries, penalizing the voters who cast ballots in these states is simply wrong. None of the candidates campaigned in these two states so it isn't a matter that one candidate got an unfair advantage by campaigning where the other didn't. While it is true that Obama didn't put his name on the ballot in Michigan, he did apparently urge people who supported him to vote for uncommitted or undecided. I think, given that information, the vote is an accurate representation of the wishes of the voters. As well, if I recall correctly, Hillary Clinton was willing to help with a second vote but Obama's camp wouldn't co-operate.

Second, I doubt that a male candidate who had the number of supporters and the number of delegates that Hillary Clinton has would have the same pressure to 'quit' that people are putting on her. Certainly in the past contests have gone to the convention with a bigger disparity in votes than is extant in this year's contest. Why Hillary? Don't people believe in the American system of choosing nominees for president? Aren't these matters decided at the convention when one candidate gets actual votes over 50%? How can Americans go to the rest of the world and preach democracy if in the practice of democracy at home the contests are manipulated by pundits and backroom political games?

Not only is Hillary making a fool of heself but it has come to the point where those who still support her are making fools of themselves as well.

Just look at some of the comments from her supporters. Only she can win a GE even though current polls regarding a GE are useless. She is the most experienced, at what?. Michigan and Florida should count even though Hillary agreed they should not until she fell behind in this race. She damaged the Dem Party by playing the white vote card and continues to damage the party claiming she leads in the popular vote when she does not. Imagine Gore refusing to concede and stating the rules should change in the middle of the game to have the popular vote elect him as the President after losing the electoral college to Bush. Gore was more principled and had more integrity and concern for his own reputation with the Amercian people.

Yes, Hillary is sounding like a fool. Just as her supporters are on this blog. No sense arguing with them. One can't argue with fools.

How does he know? He's been ill.

I will be writing in Hillary Clinton, not because of Bill, not because of any distraction. Since when is not giving up considered desperate?

Has anyone else noticed that most these fairweather democrats are emotional woman who are jusr angry for the sake of being angry…….I'll tell you what that if Obama loses……we won't see another female candidate for a long while……..guaranteed…..people have seen this crap…..we have watched it play out like an episode of Jerry Springer……and the black man wasn't the star this time…..she has ruined it for woman from my eyes…….."Theres No Crying in Baseball"…..and for all the fighting that she has done; it has been too little too late

Hillary schould have been BOWED OUT gracefuly !!!!!!

She is selfish !!!!!! If she can't be the captain of the ship, she would rather sink it.

And for Anybody to say that they will vote for McCain over Obama………
they are just as raciest as ever !!!!!!

If the favor was pionting toward Hillary (sorry, but it NOT ) I would have voted for her.

Anybody who vote for McCain…….. has a mind issue !!!!!!!!!

Thank you Cris in California…….I hope you speak up more often. It's Clinton or McCain for me also. I feel the DNC are traitors to this country.

Hillary, even your own people are saying enough. Uncle. Thanks for playing in this little experiment called Democracy. This is a country founded on rules and people following the rules. That is the beautiful thing about a democracy, the rules can be changed. But not during the game. It would be like if the NBA got rid of the 3 point shot or the dunk during a game because one team was better at it than the other. I truely feel for the people of FL & MI but to fix the problem, they need to change their state leaderhip. They are the ones who made the choice. Sue them not the DNC. Welcome to this experiment called Democracy. And if you are wondering, I am not a Obama supportor. He scares the hell out of me, but so does Clinton. That is why I supported Edwards.

To all concerned parties:

Ms. Hillary & Mr. Bill — it is time to get off your platform box for the good of the Democratic Party . . .

America and the World are watching . . . .

Gov. Patterson thank you. I mean, coming from the governor of your state??, It can't be worse. How it feel if the DNC ignorantly concede to Hilliar's silly claim, and make her the dem's nominee when she is behind in, 1) Number of STATES won, 2) Number of Popular Votes, 3) Number of Pledged delegates, and now 4) Number of Supers. What is she thinking?

At first I thought they should just give her what she wants, because this appears to be her last desperate play, following the gender/race/general victim card. However, after thinking about it, even if they give her what she wants, she's still behind, so they'll just find some other 'injustice' to gripe about and further the cause of McBush in the process. Get her off the scene now, before she does damage that won't be undone quickly.

As a democrat who will be voting for McCain in Nov. if Obama is the nominee for the democrats – those who speak about loyalty to the "party" should realize that our loyalties should first and foremost be to the USA – and if we think the party has chosen a candidate who will be incapable of leading this country nationally and interantionally and will cause it harm, we have the MORAL duty to vote for the candidate who we think is better. As a BA (summ cum laude international studies), JD (magna cum laude) and MSed (4.0 gpa) who has worked jobs from waitress to attorney, who is only a few years younger than Obama, I think a vote for Obama is a vote for a return to the Carter era in US history – something I am not willing to live through again.

I think the votes should be counted the way they were voted. What are they afraid of? I guess they want the republician party to win again in November.

Clinton is campaigning on counting every single vote. But also that every Democratic delegate should be focused on who can win in November.

Obama is campaign on disenfranchising voters so he can win, regardless of whether he's got the strongest case for November, which he does not.

I am so CONFUSED!

Hillary supporters say things like "Every vote should be counted including those in Florida and Michigan."

But when she counts her votes, she leaves out caucuses. I guess the only votes that should be counted are those cast for her in states that aren't Iowa, Texas (kind of), Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, North Dakota, Nevada, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, and Wyoming. But according to Hillary supporters like BIG ROD ("Obama took this nomination by winning all of the wrong states"). Fine job, citizens.

"Senator Clinton cares about all Americans and voters." Sorry MAI, but she has proven time and again that she only cares about herself and the amount of power she has.

I voted for Bush, and I'll not make the Republican mistake this time around. Nor will I support a grasping woman just because we're the same sex. I'm a convert.

Obama/Gore '08

Her real job now is to kill the distain that her suporters have for Obama, and make this about a batle of political parties instead of Hillary v Barack.

Taking this decision from disagreement to a battle of distain has been the biggest wound in this whole process.

For her to 'win' now, and have the superdels go against the del majority would not only rip a hole in the dem party, but just kill any hope people had for the Dems to change the country.

You can always run again in 2016 Sen. Clinton.

MonaP

Vote for McCain and watch your right to choose disappear all because you're a sore loser…that's brilliant.

As a Democrat that has lived in MI all my life, all I can say is that it was the state democrats own bloody fault for this mess. They knew there was a price to pay for changing the date of the primary. What irks me most, is that Hillary KNEW what would happen if they held the new primary. We were disenfranchised by the Democratic Gov. and House, not, by the national Democratic party. Do not patronize me with platitudes and bovine excrement, Hillary. I know who to blame and who is taking advantage of me -again!

I just came back from a parallel universe where Hillary was in the lead and laughing at the notion of allowing FL & MI.

She kept on saying, my opponent is desperate. He wants to change the rules AGAIN. How can we now change the rules at this late stage in the game? My opponent agreed to these rules in 2007. We need a president that abides by the rules.

The point is, would Hillary fight this hard if FL & MI would benefit Obama?

Can we call this more SNIPER FIRE and call it a day?

Getting desperate? Her entire campaign has been an exercise in desperation and futility since Iowa.

If you want to make a Kerry reference, then Obama fits the bill.

Kerry was weak and his wife was appealing as a first lady.

Just like Obama!

What I don't get is why people who want to see these votes counted don't acknowledge that those votes are not a fair representation of the will of the people of those states.

In both Michigan and Florida, good Democrats stayed home or did not indicate a preference for nominee specifically because they were told that their states delegates would not be seated. Why is Hillary Clinton so willing to disregard them? They did nothing wrong and were fully abiding by the rules of their Party in not casting their votes. Is she just saying to them, "Too bad, so sad."?

Try this on for size: A rumor sweeps through the state–show up at the local library on Saturday and cast a vote for President. A bunch of people do. The event isn't sanctioned by the government. There's no legal validity to the event. But after the fact, the "candidate" who got the most "votes" starts making noise that those "votes" must be counted and "the will of the people" must be respected. If we can turn any event into an election after the fact, heaven help our democracy.

Say what you want, it still will NOT make Obama a winner in November!

Clinton's campaign did suffer from Mark Penn's lack of attention at the start. However, this does not change the fact that OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE.

I guess the loser is the Democratic party in general. They have squandered their best chance at the presidency, and they only have themselves to blame.

It is unfortunate for the people that do need reforms in our government. BUT I will not let this be a deterrent to voting for the better qualified candidate. Between Obama and McCain… there is no choice! McCain will prevail. Only Hillary can win against him.

Even a blind man can see through this behavior of Hillary; and he is a supporter!

I too believe Clinton is showing desperation. Its time to give it up. Admit is just isnt going to happen.

Please…

PATTERSON – this liar & cheater has the nerve to talk.

He doesn't even know which way he is looking.

What's wrong Patterson…afraid you'll lose your APPOINTED governor's job ???

KEEP FIGHTING 4 US HILLARY !

If the shoe were on the other foot (Obama trailing), then she would be screaming that he should follow the rules that were set by the DNC. She can't change the rules just to make herself win. It's disgusting!

Desperate people do desperate things. Counting the votes of people in Florida and Michigan really is a sign of desperation. Obama and Clinton both agreed to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan voters to punish them for wanting to vote too early. Disenfranchisement of voters is THE RULE in the Democratic Party primaries and both Obama and Clinton should live by their agreement. If they break their agreement to disenfranchise voters, what other rules and agreements would they break?

Obama – McKinney 08

Ok everyone, here are the facts….the caucus states were strong-armed by the Obama campaign, plain and simple. Texas-two-step, time and location of caucuses and intimidation. People were pressured, locked out of locations, and bussed into locations. This is the NEW POLITICS you are all speaking of. How dare you call Hillary a bully when this was the MO of the Obvmam campaign from DAY ONE. I do not call that "taking the high road" or "inclusive". You Obama supporters are so enamoured by smooth talking that you feel justified in the dispicable tactics you have used. Additionally, I am under the impression that the agreement signed by the candidates was limited to the fact that they would not campaign there. After signatures were secured, the DNC instituted the penalty. I do not believe that anyone thought ALL the delegates would be stripped, nor do I think anyone, at anytime said the votes THE VOTES would not count. Now when you have been bullied, bamboozled, and hoodwinked, it is only common sense to level out the playing field. She is not doing anything that any PRESIDENT of our country should not do. She is fighting for all the people….if you want the caucus states to count, I suggest you get mediation in there to overlook the thug tactics that were used. Obama is used to intimidating and legal manuvering and verifying each and every signature. Check your candidate out! See how he won the Illinois and US seats! To say that Hillary and HER SUPPORTERS do not have the right to take this to the rules committee and the convention is plain 3rd world politics. Now get off your high horses and do some research. By the way, I do not care what color/religion/sex Obama is. I DO CARE that we, the American People, handle elections in a democratic manner. To be honest, I originally supported Obama. However, that changed after I saw how the MSM and the Obama campaign was railroading Hillary's campaign. I hope my spelling and grammar meets your standards…after all, I am undereducated, white, and make less than 200K annually. Nonetheless, I am an American citizen, and I do want my vote to count!

Mai,
The point is these are the same delegates that Hillary didn't think mattered when she agreed with the decision of the DNC not to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan. Suddenly, the rights of the delegates is so important to our queen that she will fight to the end for them…. How nice of HCR. Hell with rules, we should just coronate her not a nominee, but a president immediatly. We should just go with the gut feeling of the Clintonians; she is the best candidate don't you get it? Why do we even need all the headache of selecting a nominee through a democratic process to which all the prez hopefuls agreed, when we have our God-given feelings!

You cannot expect Hillary to bow out gracefully. There is not a graceful bone in her body – its not in her nature. Her nature is to lie (Bosnia sniper fire), cheat (signing pledge regarding Fla/Mich, then comparing it to abolitionists and suffragists movements), steal (erroneous popular vote claims), complain (caucus states, moveon.org, sexism), dishonesty/misrepresent (gas tax), speak irresponsibly (obliterate Iran) and tear down (Obama and the party itself) in order to advance her OWN personal agenda. Good Democrats are just standing by and watching it happen. Obama is up over Clinton by double digits in every major poll (Gallup, Rasmussen, Zogby, etc.). He is the clear preference of Democrats, and if they had revotes in some of the primaries she won, especially California, she would loose by a large margin. More democrat leaders need to step forward and in one unified voice shut this primary season down so that we can move forward. Some feelings will get hurt, but this thing has to end

How can anyone take her popular vote argument seriously when Obama's name was not on the ballot and 240,000 people voted for "Other". If she was truly magnanimous, she would apply those votes to Obama keeping him in the popular vote lead.

Wait…who am I kidding…Hillary be magnanimous???

She was for the rules when she thought she would win this in a walk and now she is against the rule change she supported. Sounds like John Kerry's "I voted for the war before I voted against it"

Obama and Clinton want all the Michigan and Florida Delegates seated, the question is how will they be apportioned? Wouldn’t just using the actual votes be fair?

Florida voted 50% for Hillary, 33% for Obama and 13% for Edwards with 211 delegates.

Michigan voted 55% for Hillary, 40% Uncommited and 4% for Kucinich with 157 delegates.

If you allocate delegates based on the actual voting percentages, Hillary gets 192. Give the uncommitted and Florida’s 33% to Obama and he gets 133, Edwards gets 27 and Kucinich gets 6. .

Gee whiz, that gives Obama 2098 pledged and Superdelegates so its Game Over. without counting the additional delegates he picks up in Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota.

That’s why Harold Ickes, Hilton’s Top Aide, is telling the DNC that Obama can not be awarded the uncommitted votes in Michigan. That would drop Obama’s delegate count to 2035. Obama is certain to win more than enough pledge delegates in the remaining primaries and odds are he will get more Superdelegates.

That’s why Hillary is now talking swing states, white voters and her supporters not voting for Obama in November.

I will gladly vote for McCain in November. And yes, I know it will be Bush's third term. And yes, I know he will appoint judges that will try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Well, I don't care. Since young women supported Obama, they shouldn't mind going to Canada for their abortions. In the end, emotion always beats logic. Never forget that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Question for all of the "Clintonistas" out there: Have you ever heard Obama say that "I'm more electable" than Hillary? Pretty arrogant statement huh; what chances do you think she'll have if she steals the nomination?

A new set of rules is being created. The old perceptions of red and blue are going out the window. People want change. They don't wan the old guard from either party. The old guard, Democratic and Republican alike, have gotten us into a horrible situation in this country. The are going to get tossed out across the board. Hillary and McCain are both old guard. They'd better fire up their resumes.

Ann

Your candidate agreed to rules!! The only reason why she wants to break them is because she behind. If she wasn't behind at all, then she wouldn't care.

You guys you blindly support her need to wake up. Its over. She can't even manage her own campaign.

Sick of the lies. All of them. If one more person says Obama is a Muslim, or Wright's right hand man, anti-Israel, pro-terrorists I will puke. I'm just so tired of it. Clinton does not have a broader coalition, most of her supporter is from older white women and blue collar voters, not to mention from early on her unfavorable rating was around 50%. When half the country didn't like shortly after you started running you cannot build the largest coalition of people.
If you want, dislike Obama. Disagree with his policies, but don't lie. He has the popular vote even if you count FL and MI if you include caucuses. He's not an Arab, a Muslim, a terrorist supporter, etc. His coalition IS larger as shown by his much larger number of donors, the size of his rallies and the variety that you see at them.
Like I said you don't have to like him or vote for him, but at least educate yourselves before you decide. Don't become steeled against him because of lies.
The media and the other people spreading the lies disgust me. You are on the same level as Rudy Boschwitz's Jewish letter against Wellstone. HOpefully it backfires equally badly.

Millions of women and blue collars will vote for McCain in November. Obama promised us unity, and instead he gave us a civil war. It's not about the issues anymore – it's personal. Welcome to identity politics.

Go Obamma.

McCain 08

A victory in Oregon, yes, but a 35-point thrashing in Kentucky on Tuesday for presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama. Although both states are populated predominantly by white voters, together they prove white comes in many different shades.

Obama 08

DESPERATION AND IRRATIONAL is Sen. Clinton's middle name, you all didn't know that?

Now the kicker here is Billy Boy NOW stating she should be VP. What is WRONG with this entire family.

One minute she's claiming she DOES NOT want the VP slot and Bill himself stated she "deserves" the VP slot. I'm sorry, who made Billy-Bob the BOSS here? Last time I check he has NO say in who Sen. Obama picks as his VP.

Geeeeez, this whole argument about her winning "states", she's the most" electable, she's most "qualified". Give me a BREAK.

IF this was TRUE, she would be in the LEAD if this were the case.

I think Hillary Clinton is trying to "bully" her way into the VP. She's trying to FORCE Sen. Obama in making her his VP AND I think Sen. Obama and his supporters is NOT buying her "wolf" tickets.

Hillary Clinton does NOT have any power at this point!!

Why are people still saying Obama is against counting votes? He has never said that. Where is this new lie coming from?

Desperate is not the word for her actions. She goes beyond desperate measures, at all costs to include damaging the Democratic party. Sad but true.

Senator Clinton is for confrontation and tearing down either with tears in her eyes or the contrived resolve of heart. I can not fathom her true intentions and that is her best credential not showing who she is or where stands. But she is flexible, intelligent and for the average American. You either have or can't afford not to have her. Senator Clinton is not what America needs.

Senator Clinton professes to take a high moral ground in the name of the voters. She has neither. She is the next Lieberman.

After agreeing to the DNC rules punishing MI and FL for changing their primaries, to continue to pump those states voters with more hope that their votes will count serves no purpose but her own. To act as their facilitator is completely deceiving. Since she isn't going to win the nomination, she is just continuing to destroy the party and make Obama appear even more unelectable to the uninformed voters who refuse to check the facts against their self imposed bigotry. She has no future as a presidential candidate ever. The people will remember her divisiveness. She's over and has no one to blame but herself.

To say she won in Mich is fair. Her name was on the ballot as were some others and also "Other". If you did not want Hillary then you voted "Other" (which could have meant Obama or Edwards). If you wanted to vote for Hillary, you voted for her. Even if Obama got all the "Other" votes, even giving him those that may have voted for Edwards, he would have still lost. Why is noone mentioning this?? None of them campaigned there OR Florida? Do we want to win in November or don't we?!

One of the big mistakes the media, the pundits, and the "experts" are making is to base predictions for the results of the general election based upon history. The country is going through a great deal of change right now, which is one of the reasons an unknown Senator from Illinois has kicked the Clintons around the country and is now in the lead (no matter what Hillary's math says). People are sick and tired of the old ways. Things are going to change all over the place….and the pundits and experts are going to be scratching their heads, trying to figure out ways they can say "I told you so" when they actually missed the boat completely. Obama is going to kick butt.

Don't bet your paycheck on what has happened historically. This general election, I guarantee you, is going to have outcomes that will redraw the red and the blue states. Hillary won some swing states. if she isn't in the election, watch for Obama to pick up those states. Republicans have been losing elections that have been on their home turf in the past weeks. Watch for Obama to pick up Republican areas (white, well-educated, afluent people who are sick to death of Republican shenanigans).

Hillary is playing a dangerous game … from trying to cheat by asking full delegations of Michigan and Florida to be given to her on a silver platter, she is now becoming a rabble-rouser by asking supporters to march to the convention in protest. There can be violence in the streets !

Are her supporters mindless members of a cult who will follow her to the abyss ?

Superdelegates, vote now and end this, she is just getting warmed up to use her supporters for her own desperate ambition.

Hillary supporters seem to think they are getting away with regurgitating her lies.

She does not have the majority of the popular vote, or what really matters, the pledged delegates. That is what matters. She said so a few months back.

It is 2026, not that new number she made up. She can't just change the rules to suit her needs.

This is why Obama supporters are so annoyed. She makes up this garbage and her supporters just accept it as rule. Wake up, and think about what you would be saying if Obama was changing the rules, and Hillary led in popular vote, pledged delegates and super delegates.

what would you be saying?

What a sexist pig — that, of course, is how the HilBilly Demagogues are going to view — after, he is anohter BLACK MAN who is unwilling to stand behind her without admitting the truth, or better yet (from their perspective) lie for her. How soon will Carville be calling him a Judas? How soon before Billyboy attacks him for disrespecting her? How soon before Ferraro is back on TV whining about even more sexism.

Except by cheating, or stealing the nomination by using the HilBilly political clout to change the rules after the election to way that they favor HilBilly, and to now totally ignore a total breach of teh Party Rules, she has no chance of getting the nomination. Obama supporters are much more likely to support Hilbilly if she wins the nomination. But if she steals it — then McCain in 08 and 12.

As Peter Gabriel sang, "Here comes the flood!"

Superdelegates Give them up now ASAP to the leader Obama

This is nonsence are you trying to ruin the Democratic party ?

hillary is exhausting, she like the everyready battery that goes on,on,on. hillary needs to listen to some one other bill and her inner self, be a bigger person and do the right thing.

I hope the people that count start realizing that she's desperate and not good for the Democratic party. I used to think it would be fine to let her finish out the race. Now I can't wait to see her gone. I will never vote for her in any capacity and if somehow she manages to get the nomination I'll be taking a look at 3rd party candidates.

The leaders of the DNC are to blame for this fiasco. Now it's time to rein her in and end it before there is no one willing to vote for either of their candidates.

I get the impression she doesn't sleep anymore. She sits in front of a chalkboard figuring out how to change the numbers so that she will be in the lead. Which states not to count and how to add in all of FL & MI. She's totally lost it. I have no respect for the Clintons at all anymore.

His name is spelled Paterson, not Patterson.

>Some people are still asking odd questions like "What does Hillary Clinton want?" Hillary decided to run for President in 2008.

>A majority of Americans said they want Hillary Clinton.

Then how come she's losing?

Desperate! You think!!!!!!

desperation was last week…….this week its foolish thank you KY( not the lube)…….first she talk about sexism…….well the only woman is trying to change the rules ……..all the black and white males followed the rules according to how they were laid out………but yes the lady …..did I say that right …….the woman is trying to change the rules……..if that is sexism ……its gonna get alot worse for woman after this………think about it ….you 200 years for your first woman candidate and she is over-confident and starts to lose and then wants the rules changed from the contract she signed before the contest started…….talk about taking steps backward…….maybe I'm just sexist…….not really….the black candidate has waited the same amount of time and has tried to follow the rules as best he can….I dont know if I am sexist….but the rules are the rules…..hell a black guy is doing just fine following them……now thats something

Amazing with all of Obama's issues he has made it this far. Anyone else would be gone by now. Not even Bush had as many issues coming in as Obama has.

It is Hillary 08 or McCain 08 for me.

The electoral map is to early to count on know If I remanber my history correctly Bill was in the same baot with the map at this point in time. Please tell want winning the wrong states mean. winning is winning and if the information i is see there are more states in play.

It is shameful how little integrity Hilary Clinton has – she was all for counting out Florida and Michigan when she thought that the primary process was just a formality. She will stoop to anything for power – she ought to be ashamed of herself. It is sad to see how desperate, irrational and unreasonable she has become. It would be terrifying to think that she could be President of the US, given all of the divisive comments that she and Bill have made. Finally, her campaign has been a disaster, despite her "experience" (with several elections behind her), yet Barack has ran an unbelievably proficient campaign. If she can't manage a campaign as well as Barack, even though she is so much more experienced, why does she think that anyone would believe that she would be any better at managing a country?

Hillary Clinton is not desperate. The American people are desperate. We are desperate for REAL change that only an EXPERIENCED leader like Hillary Clinton can give us.

Please tell me Chris in CA, what is Hillary's real EXPERIENCE??? Seriously, I would like to know. Being first lady??? / Foreign policy experience?? You mean like Bosnia-sniper fire??? Corporate Lawyer??? Obama has been in elected office longer than she has. So please, fill me in on all of her vast experience.

She should have argued the rules back in January, then I can say she stood ground but she arguing because she and her campaign though she would be the nominee after super Tuesday.

She say all 50 states should have a say, but she wasn't saying that in February when less than half had voted.

Come on… endorse Obama!
Obama for president!

Hillary Supporters: Please explain why any delegates from FL or MI should be awarded to HRC after she signed the following pledge:

"THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as “campaigning” is defined by rules and regulations of the DNC. "

As you can see, she signed that she would not PARTICIPATE in the FL or MI elections. Therefore, she should receive no votes from them. That should be the end of the story. The DNC Rules Committee is making this much harder than it is. Just enforce the candidates' pledges, period.

Clinton is doing what any cult leader would do.. playing to the delusions of her followers. Watch her play the "I was unfairly forced out" card to throw the election. Now that it would matter, if McCain is elected, 4 years would be plenty to weed out her followers, many of whom are "economically challenged" .

Hillary is desperate, she is trying to cheat the American people out of the election. Hillary has broke the rules too and its time for her to go, so wave bye bye hillary and lets move on……….

Clinton will be even more desperate after she sees results of a new poll out today in California (by the Public Policy Institute of California) which shows a dramatic shift in voter support TOWARD Obama, and AWAY from both Clinton and McCain. That includes a big shift among Latinos.

Now 51% of voters have "unfavorable" view of Clinton, and 53% have unfavorable view of McCain.

CNN, why aren't you reporting on this?

OBAMA '08 & '12!

Since when is the presidency "rightfully" anyones??? We live in a democracy — the voters get to decide. Dynasties have no place in our government.

Hillary Clinton is our Best canidate for a President. She is confident as is millions upon millions of Americans that she is the BEST canidate for President of these United States! Hillary has the experience and qualties and attributes that the American people want in a President and she will be our next President even if we have to go all the way to the convention floor! Every vote needs to be counted and every state! Obama supporters are switching over by the thousands in support for Hillary. The Iowa voters have reconsidered due to Obamas stand on "talking" with terrorists and are switching to Hillary. Again, the media sadly is so wrong. Like Martin Luther King said "THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE!"

I really think the Clinton supporters who are posting on this blog are as delusional as he is. They think that if they say something enough it will be true.

Finally, people are starting to say what the mean and what they think. Hillary is still playing politics and it's about time she cuts to the truth (if she remembers how to do that aka sniper fire).

To the people of Michigan and Florida – be angry not at the DNC or Obama but rather your Republican representatives who moved up the primary and who knew it was against the rules.

Getting desperate? Wow, some people have really high bars for determining desperation. One would have thought that praising the Republican, using racist propaganda, trying to change the rules, lying, claiming votes one doesn't have and screaming "misogeny" would be enough to label a campaign "desperate."

Hillary has changed her mind about Fla and Michigan. You know what they say. A wise man changes his mind. A fool never does.

i find it very ironic that senator clinton wants "all" of the votes counted but when she speaks of how she is coming up with the #'s that show her with the popular vote lead she is not including any of the caucus' that obama won, how does do that work???? i guess it's ok for clinton to decide what votes should and shouldn't count and for her supporters to imply that obama is some how cheating, when in fact he beat her fair and square. sorry you weren't given the presidency senator clinton, I know it's everybody elses fault. hey I've got a good idea, instead of trying to fix our country lets just destory our party and complain about stuff, constantly.

I agree with what you said about "If Hillary truly cared about Michigan and Florida, she would have demanded they change the rules BEFORE the election, not now when she's losing."

Why do we have rules? aren't they supposed to be enforced? not broken?????

Hillary needs to get a life. She is only dividing the party by continuing this argument. She agreed to the decision early on. Now she wants to have the votes counted because she has lost the race to become the nominee. She does not deserve to be the nominee. She does not deserve to be the Vice President either. Obama would have to watch his back each day. Hillary and Bll would do everything they could to undermine Obama's Presidency. Hillary can't be trusted now.

No wonder Dems cannot win because they wnt to change rules as it suits them, do not be deceived as I wrote before put yourseldf in the position, remember how you felt about someone getting admission in Univ or school when the person ws admitted bsed on quota not fair system for all it is the same scenerio Sen Clinton is trying to steal the nomination unfairly, she agreed to thse rules and now that she is losing she wants to chnage them. makes me sick to my stomach just like the students who were not admitted because of the quota system. dems if we want to win WH we need to fair and follow the process with the rules as they were at the start of the primaries.

I hope she does not go crazy over this nomination. After all, she's got so much money. Is it because of her obsession for power?

NEWSFLASH

Hillary Clinton endorses Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate, he graciously accepts, and the party unites to defeat McCain in November, because Hillary comes out and tells her supporters they are silly for even saying the lame threatening things they did in primary season

One other point: Polls taken today about what voters will do in November are irrelevant. Remember that Dukakis had a huge lead and lost big. To put it another way: In virtually every state where Obama has campaigned with force, he has either extended his existing lead or cut into Clinton's lead. In Pennsylvania, despite Clinton having the whole Dem establishment in that state in her back pocket, not to mention demographics that favored her, Obama cut her lead from 25 to 10 in just a few short weeks. If Clinton wasn't wasting the party's time with all these shenanigans, Obama would now be doing the same to McCain across the country–shifting the numbers his way one day at a time.

These posts are full of hate for Hillary. I am confident that were it the other wy around, BO would be doing the same thing and I would be in total agreement with him. The popular vote is almost divided 50/50 which means that 50% of you like Obama and 50% of us want Hillary as our president. She is the best qualified candidate to lead our country. The personal hate for her and Bill is blinding voters to choose the least qualified person.

Desparate? No. Entitled, and obsessed? Yes.

Thank U Govenor Patterson for saying what is on everybody's mind!

Desperado,…why don't you come to your senses….you've been out riding fences, for so long now,…Oh you're a hard one, I know that you've got your reasons,..but these things that are pleasing you will hurt you somehow…

C'mon Hillary…nobody wants a president who is so desperate to be president… or are you the Mother Theresa of politics and you are going to save us from ourselves?

David Patterson might not be able to see very well, but at least he's good at math.

Hahahaha..i love it!! Go Obama!

HRC desperate………………enough said!!!!!!!

You can’t change the rules of the game after you agree and begin playing. If it did not suit her and would take away from her possible bid then she would find a way to respectfully impose seating the MI & FL delegates. It is ridiculous to even have this conversation. If Obama was Edwards, this wouldn't be happening. Call a spade a spade this country isn’t ready for a Black candidate with a true chance of winning it all so the powers that be are collectively trying to put the cabash on it "by any means necessary" It is a blow to her ego and an unthinkable mistake in their eyes.

It is all easy. The Democratic Party has the choice. Either the Superdelegates nominate Hillary or the Democrats will loose the general elections. Florida & Michigan should revote. Lets see , whether the Obama camp would agree with that…

Why does everyone think Hillary has so much "experience"??? she has only been a Senator a few years, and before that she was just the President's wife! she never held any kind of office before. Does being a coniving, ruthless attorney give her more experience?
I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Both McCain and Obama cannot win in November without Hillary and that's the fact.

Hillary Clinton will even change the constitution when she becomes president. If things do not go her way constitutional-wise, the American people will see changes to come. This the party that put her husband into office before she became first lady. The rules governing the party was violated. She accepted it at the time but since things are not going the way she thought the rules have to be changed to suit her will. This so, so sad.

The delegates of both Florida and Michigan should be seated despite the party rules. The right to vote overrules petty party rules and the voters should not be disenfranchised from that right because a political party without the force of law believes it should punish the voters for what the state political party and government did. Seat the delegates and then count the votes. The candidate with the most gets the nomination.

At last we're back at the REALLY important issues: Mrs. McCain's choice to wear blue jeans and how she looks in them, Mrs. Obama's idea of a First Lady ought to look, choosing – what else?? – PEARLS!

Change? Change We Can Believe In! Change…………

Hillary is desperate; she can do anything, no matter how much it would hurt this Party to get the nomination then after Hillary, according to Bill today, Chelsea will come forth for Presidency of US; Are Americans living for the Clintons?
Out of her desperation, she has said so many things that shouldn't have been said by any right thinking person against Obama.

There are still some of HRC supporters and herself that are in this delusional state of mind. IT IS OVER!! Also, check out Bill Clinton's recent comments, which is totally disgusting of a former president. Blame the media, blame Obama, blame the sexism, blame the rules, blame all except HRC. Wow, also read what her spiritual feminist adviser out Oregon had to say about her frame of mind, that is shocking.

SHE ONLY CARED AFTER SHE STARTED LOSING! SHE ISN'T A HERO.

Why anyone still supports this maniac woman is beyond me! She needs to stop her destruction, she needs to think of something and someone besides her own demented and egotistical out of control ambition and sense of self entitlement! The DNC and the remaining superdelegates need to step up to the plate, endorse Obama and allow the fight against Mcbush to begin in earnest! Hillary has become a nasty, crazy distraction, she apparently wants the Dems to lose so she can run again in 2012. I wouldn't vote for her if she was the "only" candidate! I am a 60 year old white woman who cannot stand her.

When will the party leaders step in and end this madness? Sen. Obama followed all the rules and has won.

Oh, that's right. This is the Democratic party, and there are no real leaders.

Sen. Clinton, you are making it great for two people – McCain this year, and yourself in 2012.

Self-centeredness again triumphs in American politics!

"I See", said the Blind Man!

Patterson look out she will be coming for your job !!!!!!!!!!!

obama WILL win the general election…. those who say nay are just wrong…

That sounded like a voice of reason from the Clinton camp. Thanks!

Bottom line, the clear intent of Michigan voters can not be know from the results and without it Clinton can not win the delegate race or the popular vote.

I will now pair Senators Clinton and Lieberman forever. Two candidates who crave power so much that they abandon their ideals.

Well, yes… Hillary is getting desperate! Having Bill represent her in states like Montana is absurd! I cannot believe he goes out and tries to campaign for her! He's doing more harm than good.
She knows she can't win this now…. it's Obama all the way!
We need someone like him to run our country. We do need a change and he's the one for the change.
Our poor old country is falling apart now… with dishonest politicians, high gas and food prices, the war, all the crime, etc.

She feels entitled to the nomination and will do anything–including try to change rules she agreed to (and her campaign folks helped put into place when they thought she'd win in a walk)–to get what she thinks is hers by right. That's not how we do it in this country! Obama has played this process much more effectively, his positions are just as good as hers if not better, his analytical ability and capacity to lead and inspire are superior to hers, and his personal integrity is miles beyond hers. He is clearly the better candidate, and he is winning by the rules they both agreed to. Case closed.

And this is why……………….

America Is Ready
Obama 08

It's over Hillary, call it quits and help big 'O' defect the Greed Over Principle (GOP) folks this fall. Any working American that votes for a Republican this fall, is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders ?? Their polices hurt them the most and they don't even know it ??

Vote change not McSame !!!

Hillary Clinton has the best chance of winning over McCain. The Republicans fear running against her and it appears from the onset the Rupublicans have "pushed" Obama. While I am a Republican I will vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination. In the event she does not then I will vote for McCain. Hillary is the best candidate.

desperate or not im willing to bet she will be the nominee the supers will put her over the top obama is dangerous

TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION!
TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION!
TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION!

Next time we will all bend over and let George Sorros, Oprah, Michael Bloomberg, and Warren Buffet decide the nominee for us.

Until then, Keep fighting Hillary.

No more corporate control of the govt. We have that right now.

Finally somebody amongst Hillary's supporters speaking out loud that she didn't oppose the penalty imposed on Florida and Michigan before it became apparent they were her last hope. I wish all those bitter voters who write here and intend to march on DC (very strange tactics this march on DC that Hillary is suggesting, or at least certainly not denouncing… ) would be just as clear-headed as Governor Patterson.

Since she realized it was not going to be given to her and she had some competition she is in desperate to maintain her EGO but does not care about the DNC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This should of been a closed issue…MORE OF HILLARY SUPPORTERS NEED TO WAKE UP AND FESS UP… AND END THE MADNESS.
They are encouraging her to stay in a race that has already ended…do like HC GET OUT.
OBAMA 08′

Ironic that the politician is complaining about the politics! She can't work it out now, how are we to believe she can work it out if she actually GETS into office??

Besides… she already had a chance at 'reforming health-care' back when she was First Lady… seems like that waste of money & time should account for something!!

You're a mean one, Mrs. Grinch.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel.
Mrs. Grinch.

You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.

-adapted by Dr. Seuss

Not only has she been desperate and increasingly so, as the rest of us watch. But in this sad spectacle she is demonstrating her destructive nature for anything standing in her way. Her motto is " if I fail I'll take the whole structure down with me". She is not now, has never been, nor ever will be presidential material.

A little desperation? That's an understatement. The DNC and Howard Dean needs to man-up, grow a pair and tell Hillary and her faithful Clintonites that the Florida and Michigan votes, "ain't gonna happen!"

She is beginning to sound beyond desperate!! She signed on to the rules when she though she would run away with the vote. Now it should change? NO NO! Her actions are the reason I can not support her. She' throwing a tantrum, screaming and crying just to get her own way. I'm a women and it is becoming embarrarising for women! Somebody(Bill) talk to her and tell her to let go gracefully!!! She can't win the whole US with just the redneck votes and that she should not be to proud of either. She could destroy the democratic party and any future she has!

This is the exact type of leadership we need. Thank you, David Patterson. Clinton supporters have a huge amount of sway in terms of how this is all going to play out; we can only hope that they will follow what they deem is right.

It is good that more level headed leaders, such as Gov. Patterson, are beginning to speak up. The Democrats need many clear thinking leaders with a wide range of views who can come together to unite the party and back Obama to win the white house in '08.

The Clinton's need to realize the Democratic party exists for the people of the US and is not their personal means to power. The presidential nomination was never Hillary's entitlement and she completely blew what could have bene hers had she treated others with respect.

The recent behaviors of the Clinton's are not those I and others want in our leader. I am hoping the party can move beyond the divisive tactics of the clinton organization and take the white house in '08

Obama-Gore '08

Clingary (not Hillary)..should stop clinging to a nomination that is not hers. Obama has won the nomination fair and square following the same rules as she did. He deserves it not Cling-ary.

If HRC had any tack she would FFFFade away. Wait, her last name is Clinton – she has no tack.
This party is over, don't go away mad Hillary…. Just go away

Sit down and rest a little while HRC and wait on your daughter to run for president, because it is over for you.

Sad, it takes a Clinton supporter 3 months to realize that. She lost the nomination earlier in February. Remeber 11 in a row!. That's when she started throwing everythings at her opponent.

Obama voters should now embrace him, his clear view – even he is blind – and all the other Clinton supporters. Finally Hillary as the captain on board will last but not least leave the ship and join Obama.

Is her plan to just take all the delegates from both states and just nuke Obama? What kind of White house would she run?

Hillary is a victim of bad advise and her sense of entitlement to the presidency. She can not be trusted to tell the american people the truth. Florida and Michigan should be seated based on the punishment for breaking the rules. Anything other than that would be Hillary's desparation attempt to steal this election by any means necessary.

Obama 08′

i guess i'm wondering how her agruement has any substance, i mean after all she agreed not to seat FL&MI, now she's saying she's fighting for them??? that makes no sense unless it's desparation.

Thank you Petterson to open your mind officialy. She agreed with this decision last year, why the Democratic convention would change the rules now?

Hillary needs to get out and let the party get behind one candidate. She is getting very desperate as she continues to run her campaign into a huge debt of $31M. Do we really want her to be in charge of our National economy??????

I will not and never respect any supporter for Hillary Clinton.

what do you expect from a black. they all voted in a block against clinton, and the gov of new york would to if it wasn't ny.

Senator Dodd said it best…the person she beat in Michigan was him. Everyone knew the rules at the beginning of this process. Only a sore loser would want to change them…especially in her favor. She definitely wouldn't be pushing this hard if the change benefited Senator Obama!!

Hillary – please take your medication.

Hillary is out of control, and her logic is insulting. The intent of the people in Florida and Michigan? Really? Really? You think when a candidate doesn't campaign and takes his name off the ballot that those states reflect an accurate representation? Her logic here is a tremendous turnoff. Tremendous. You have lost, Hillary. You are now breeding enormous resentment.

Desperate? Come November when Obama loses, her point will be proven that she was the most electable of the two in the November election to be PRESIDENT. The election in November isn't to be NOMINEE. Silly Obama voters fail to think deep on this one and keep thinking that key states and voters don't count in November just their empty box hopefuless. Koolaid drinkers seem to think they will be the only people voting in Nov and Obama will win. Reality check Obama supporters. You're not the only ones voting come November. When your "winner" becomes the "loser" for the contest that counts the most (President) you will only have yourselves to blame for being naive beyond a primary election.

NOBAMA!

Hillary 08!

Stay in Hillary, keep fighting, keep lying and making stuff up!!
We don't want to face any future risk that you will be a national political figure–you are an unprincipled, distasteful, genocidal buffoon who, notwithstanding the "conventional wisdom," is obviously not very intelligent.
You are as dangerous as George Bush, and probably a better Republican.
Please, keep on keepin' on and make sure you have not national political future–you may even end up alienating New Yorkers like Gov. Patterson!!
Please?

Why can't the Democrats and the DNC SEE that this isn't about them…it's all about her. It always has been. If the situation was reversed she would have shown Obama the door a long time ago. Where was all this insistance that votes count back a few months ago….oh that's right….she didn't need the votes then.

I can't believe any intelligent person in Florida really believes Hillary cares about their vote. She and Bill didn't make this huge of a fuss in helping Al Gore out. Why now?

get a eye's openned up !!!! how lame can NYC get ….

And, by the way, I'm still waiting to hear why Obama had his lawyers fight a REVOTE, fair and square and in the height of his popularity a few months ago. It's because his camp did the research and concluded that they would likely lose both states even on a revote AFTER campaigning! A REVOTE in both Michigan and Florida was arranged, at no cost to the taxpayers, and Obama sent his lawyers to quash it — all so his camp could then keep repeating that they were ahead in the popular vote and delegates. What kind of change is that? Send out your lawyers to make your problems go away? Sounds like "sam ol" politicing to me. Way to disenfranchise voters. Hope Democrats pay for that one. Never did I think I would see the DNC go along with leaving voters out like this. No more for me. I'm done with it. I will not only vote for McCain. I will actively campaign for McCain. And I've also changed my registration from lifelong Democrat to unaffiliated.

Yeah, but he's not from a swing state, so his opinion doesn't count.

Obama's a sexist, a cheater, and a racist? I'm sure he will enslave white people (Clinton's people) everywhere if he is elected. Does this sum up the fantasy land that some Clinton supporters live in?

Another MAN is talking. It´s time to realize that this nomination is not fair. "Sweeties" are suppressed by media and men.

I think the people sitting in the Obama campaign headquarters office writing these blogs should get back to work.

Ann May 22nd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

I don't think she's desperate….I think she expects to get what is rightfully hers. Obama is not President material…and he CANNOT win against McCain….Obama cannot hold a candle to Hillary Clinton. She's brighter, more experience, and has more integrity than Wright's right hand man, Obama. The very fact that he is already looking for a running mate…he hasn't even gotten the nomination and he probably won't…by the grace of God…God Bless America…..Hillary 08

What is rightfully hers??? Wow, you Hillary supporters are scary! NOBODY has a RIGHT to the presidency.

If she doesn't get her way I bet she files a lawsuit. Her rules or no rules is the game.

Whatever Deb. I voted in the "Texas Two Step" and saw no funny business except by Hillary supporters. After waiting for 2 hours I was told I was at the wrong precinct by a Clinton supporter and was not allowed to vote (even though I had the card to prove I was in the right place). Another Hillary Supporter took down names of people in line and wrote down their votes for them (all for Hillary in a precinct heavy for Obama). Some of the numbers were called and it was confirmed most of those people were for Obama and their vote had been changed. This was published in the paper. Even with cheating she was blown out in the Caucus. By the way, the caucus was at night and there was plenty of time to get there after work even for us blue collar people.

I'm sure there is funny business on both sides but Clinton and here supporters seem to get caught red handed on many more occasions.

I'm glad this man has said something.

Deb, I too participated in our Texas two-step process. However, just because Texas has a screwed up process is no reason to blame it on Senator Obama. I suspect that your choice of candidate is the one that is behind, right?

She wanted to participate in the process; she has; and now she has lost. If you want to compete in the big leagues, part of that is accepting defeat gracefully!!

The last sentence says it all. None of the candidates, including Hillary
objected to the rules which disqualified MI and FL votes. Nothing more to say.

Why didn't Hillary object to the Michigan and Florida sanctions from the beginning when her protests might have made a difference if she really believed in her voting rights argument? After all it was just as "undemocratic" then as it is now. If she really believed what she is now saying she should have declared that she didn't accept the DNC position and that she intended to count all votes cast for her and fight for all delegates.At least then the other candidates would have been put on notice that Florida and Michigan may be put back into play.

madou sick, common boi, desperate is the RIGHT word. she won the two states without an opponent? mother flip. if i were to hillary, i should make a graceful exit and support OBAMA and the party. BILL ur time is up, hoping u know/understand whats going on. LOOK AT THE NUMBER.

The super delegates are between a rock and a hard place. they are compelled to go with Obama and lose the general election. Snub Florida and Michigan VOTERS and lose the general election. Snub 17 million Hillary supporters and lose the general election. Go ahead, all of you Obama supporters, beat your chest, herald your too far left leaning candidate as the presumptive nominee. Obama took this nomination by winning all of the wrong states, by getting votes from independants and republicans who crossed into the dem's primary to vote against Hillary in those republican states. Argue to me she did not win in the democratic States' primaries and all the crucial swing state primaries. Argue to me she has not already won more Registered DEMOCRATS' votes. Hillary should be the Democratic nominee for President. THAT is why she's not backing off or backing down. Look at an ELECTORAL MAP before its too late. THAT is why she's not backing off or backing down.

She is desperate all right – desperate to save the Democratic Party from itself with the sure loser it is trying to nominate. Hey folks there are 50 states despite what BO thinks – and each state deserves to have it's votes counted – if that is desperate – then so be it!

Look at the Electoral College – BO doesn't stand a chance – Clinton is the true winner there. The whole caucus thing was a desperate move by the left-wing of the Democratic party to have their puppet nominated.

As a middle-of-the-road life long Democrat I am appalled. I'm voting McCain if Clinton doesn't get the nod – voting for the left wing is as bad as voting for the Republican right!

Hillary Clinton is not desperate. The American people are desperate. We are desperate for REAL change that only an EXPERIENCED leader like Hillary Clinton can give us. This country is in a mess and we need someone who is not going to just be learning the ropes when he steps into the Oval Office. We need a President who can get straight to work because she knows what needs to be done to get this country back on the right track from the first day she is in the White House.

Moreover, as a lifelong Democrat, I will not so easily hand over my country to a person who thinks it is all right to exclude the voters of two states in this union to manipulate things so that he can steal an election. The ONLY way I would consider voting for Barack Obama is if the votes of the voters of Michigan and Florida are properly counted and the delegates seated at the convention in the numbers decided BY THE PEOPLE – THE CITIZEN-VOTERS OF THIS COUNTRY who voted in good faith in a Presidential election. It makes no difference to me what Howard Dean or the DNC says. The votes of The People should not be tampered with. Moreover, if I see my November ballot and Hillary Clinton's name is not on it, I will either WRITE-IN her name in the WRITE-IN section of the ballot or I will vote Republican.

Wherever Hillary Clinton's name is, so goes my vote!

I would also like to express that I am so dismayed with the way Hillary Clinton has been treated in this election. I thought misogyny was long dead, but it is not. It is a thriving entity and men in the media are getting away with it as are some politicians – even Democrats. It is the FIRST TIME as a lifelong Democrat that I have ever thought about leaving the Democratic Party. I just think what has happened has been unacceptable.

I think that Senator Clinton has every right to pursue any avenue. If you add it up she has been winning since the Wisconsin primary. A lot was learned about Obama after that time and he is probably weaker than her now. What right does anyone say she cannot pursue what she believes in? She has a better perspective on world problems and she should fight on. I think that it should go to the convention. She is going to win Puerto Rico and maybe more. The Florida and Michigan vote are not included now but an authorized settlemnent could be made. The Democratic Party can do what it wants and it is nobodies business but the party. This is not a colllege sporting event. This is our lives.

Hillary would have been the nomineee a long time ago if she did the right thing and voted NO on the Iraq war. She only has herself to blame.

Democrats don't need another flip floping "I was for it before I was against it" John Kerry like canidate. They rightuflly chose someone that was smart enough to against the war from the start.

Hillary is trying to get paid. She is 20 mil in the whole and counting. She will drop out when she breaks even I guess. As far as she is concerned to hell with he democratic party and winning the white house in November. She has got to recoup her money.

She's still the best candidate with the best chance of winning.

Polls of swing states and the electoral college vote clearly show that. Dems either want to win the white house or they don't.

Situations change. but the bottom line is, why should not ALL democrats be able to pick who they support as the Democratic candidate for President? We let Republicans and independents in some states voice their opinion, why not DEMOCRATS in all the states. The phoney "punishment" because they held their primary to early. Who cares? The DNC and party bosses are the only ones because it allowed them to munipulate the dates.

Were it me, and I was not allowed to voice my opinion I would be outraged as should all Democrats who care.

We often hear the expression that "there is time for everything," a time to win and a time to lose and it appears that her time has come to lose this nomination based on the delegate count. This is the only metric that counts in this election and Obama has a commanding lead and so as a leader of integrity, she should gracefully accept it and help the party come together. This is what we expect of good leaders.

is this a 48 state union or as oabma says '57 with one to go'.

this will have to be settled by a judge.

As DNC chairman, McAuliffe wrote about threatening to strip Michigan of 50% of its delegates if it moved up its date. Bill Clinton has also called a 50% penalty “appropriate.”

Ickes sits on the committee and last year voted to strip Florida of its delegates.

Wow, a Hillary supporter showing reason. How refreshing.

Good bye Hillary, go away, dishonest woman. OBAMA 08′

see, even a blind man can see that hillary is desperate. when will she give up??

Don't any of her political supporters (including the gov.) have enough sway to tell her that she is making a fool of herself? Every day it's worse…she's starting to look scary. Someone, please lead her away to a quiet secluded place for a few months.

Hillary is willing to disenfranchise ALL othre VOTES across Amreica for her own giddy -knee-slapping -over-zealous -self righteous quest to be the president.

I believe to be a good president a person needs to show some "humility" and "strength"..

Well she sure is humiliting those who have been supporters.. She needs to take the high road and leave after the last primary in June.

Hillary is fighting for the voters of Florida who were FORCED to move up their election, because of the dictation of the Republican controlled state legislature in Florida. People, check this yourselves. New polls today: Hillary will easily beat McCain in Ohio and Florida-Obama would not. Please don't think that Obama has Virginia or North Carolina in play. He can win no states that Hillary can't also win. Superdelegates: Do you really want a Democrat in the White House? HILLARY 08

HILLARY I LOVE YOU..!!!!

HILLARY 08!!!

The party of illegal immigration & amnesty.
Since when do Dems care about rules?

Hillary you are the best but the media and government doesn't want you. So they are force feeding us Obama.
I will write Hillary on my vote in November just like alot of people will. Obama will no way win in November.
Most of all Hillary supporters will write her name in or vote Mc Cain.
The End

If Hillary truly cared about MI and FL, she would have demanded they change the rules BEFORE the election, not now when she's losing.

I've noticed after talking to some people in FL., and MI, that most of them understand it was teir senate and not Obama that messed them up. They also know that Clinton didn't care until she needed them. And thats from some that support her. I also hear Obama would have won Mich.

The Obama people seem more concerned about taking the nomination from Hillary than they are about Obama winning in November which makes me question the agenda of those writing on this blog and those who are voting for Obama. Hillary is consistently shown in poll after poll to beat McCain in the swing states democrats must win in November, yet, these Obama people still hate her. I find that suspicious.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

For those of you who have missed civics instrution while attending school please allow me to point out the comment above is a LIE!

We are NOT a Democracy where every vote counts we are a Representative Republic. basically what this means is that while in a Democracy the majority rules (see mobs) in a Republic a few are Selected to represent the will of the Majority when they feel it is correct and proper and ot refute the will when they feel the majority is wrong. THAT is what a representative of the people is supposed to do. THAT is what a President is supposed to do!

how can you run for POTUS when oyu have no idea of the basic principles of our country?

Let me but it easier for those of you who STILL do not get it. Our Representatives can ASK for your input but it is NOT required that they follow it.

A final comment about this LIE the SELECTION process for a PARTY is NOT covered in the Constitution and you have NO RIGHT to have a say in who is selected by the party exxcept for the rights the party grants you. they could draw a name from a hat and it would be just as legal and binding as the selection process we are forced to suffer thorugh every 3 years (I know you would think 4 years but they go on SOOO LONG!)

Hillary, I no longer have respect for you, every day goes by and you still there, it shows me how selfish you are, if you cared why did not you spoke about from the beginning, this is just a typical old politics.

As my grandma used to say tell the truth and shame the devil,

Glad to hear that at least one Clinton supporter is honest about what is going on. The others seem very delusional and ICKES is at the top of that list. If Queen Hillary does somehow manage to pull this off, I will be staying home. I'm not a loyal Dem, who will just fall in line behind Billary and vote for her. Obama has won in every category. If this is now taken from him, I bet there will be quite a backlash.

she is up to something and it ain't good, that's for sure…

The DNC changed the rules not Hillary nor Florida and Michigan and the rules they changed just happen to be our consitutional right that garanties all Americans right to vote and have their votes counted entirely!
So when are you Obamawama people going to stop following him blindly and open yours to what's happening in our country with this DNC dictatorship? Probably after he loses!

Hillary now thinks she can pressure Obama into making her his running mate by playing her last card, 1rst race, 2nd feminist last and 3rd., sympathy!!!! If he is smart he will emphatically reject the notion.

I love all the comments like Deb's above where an agreed upon election process took place and didn't go Hillary's way, so Obama is a "thug." You over-the-Hillarys are acting like your candidate.

Ann– "she expects to get what is rightfully hers…"

Sad news…It's a democracy, Ann. Not a hereditary monarchy. Nothing is "rightfully" hers unless the voters say so and they have thus far indicated that she is not their chosen representative.

Given the tremendous name recognition, the sizable war chest and all the endorsements from Party bigwigs, she should've been a shoo-in. But she mismanaged her campaign, made strategic error after strategic error and now is running 30 some-odd million bucks in the red. She blew it. All on her own, her own responsibility. She just blew it.

We've already suffered enough under leaders able to turn success into disaster, we don't need her to continue the trend.

McAuliffe created this mess and now Hillary needs this to be undone to rob the nomination. She has a problem with it now because she is losing if she was winning she would not care if they were seated. The person we need to fix this country is OBAMA. He is the only candidate left that is not in corporate americas pocket other than Nader. This country needs a fresh start. OBAMA '08 '12

As a moderate Hillary supporter, even I was really surprised to see her statement in Florida.

I think the game is over and Obama is our nominee. Obama is not that bad anyway. I am happy for him as well.

Just starting to see the desperation? I've seen that look on her face for months now.

Hillary is a spoiled brat. Oh yeah she cares about the American people, causing chaos among the Democratic party.

She has obivously lost the meaning of what "Standing Up For the American People" is all about. She's all about, "I…", and "Me…" (meaning herself), and not "we".

This was her first verbal expression that I quickly caught, and because of this obvious verbal expression from the beginning, being about "herself", was why I chose to support Obama, who has obiviously been for "We" from the very beginning.

Someone needs to put Hillary in "Time-Out" so she can have some time to think about what she is doing. Shameful!!

Hillary needs to step down before she hurts the party even more. Even IF somehow she gets to have Florida and Michigan to count (which she won't) how many Obama/democracy supports will go vote for McCain or no one at all if she snakes her way to a nomination? I for one will be absolutely livid if she snakes her way in there somehow and refuse to give her my vote…

Governor Paterson's last comment is most telling to me. Sen. Clinton AGREED to the rules that the DNC is using now, AGREED to sanction FL and MI, and AGREED to the delegate portioning plan at the beginning of the process. Every candidate signed off on it. Every candidate said "This is our primary, and these are the rules we will follow." Trying to slam these rules now with fiery rhetoric is simply absurd.

Nobody cheated you, Senator Clinton…except maybe your own, inept campaign strategists and fundraisers. You had a good campaign, and by all means, make history by finishing off these primaries. But, you're going to lose. It's o.k. Sometimes you put in the best fight that you can, but you just don't get enough to win.

I've respected your service, and your husband's service, for many years. I look forward to your support for Sen. Obama once he reaches the requisite number of delegates. I also hope to hear many more fiery speeches with the theme "We are Democrats". I look forward to you uniting the party for the nominee when the nominee ISN'T you in the same way YOU would expect the 2nd place finisher to unite the party for YOU.

I can see another party-switcher like Bill Richardson.

Good to know, because when Hillary secures any sort of political nomination. These people can be counted 'OUT'.

I guess Hillary Clinton is desperate enough to get the Florida and Michigan votes counted, since she needs every chance she can get…so ok, we should seat both delegations: Florida by Hillary & Obama's share, and Michigan by dividing up the delegates evenly, since Obama's name wasn't on the ballot. If the two states had abided by party rules in the first place we wouldn't have this problem but that's a moot point now.

Even if you did it that way Obama would still be ahead…so I don't know how reinventing the math or saying 'I'm more electable' would help her at all

Interesting to note that Patterson seems to be changing his mind about Hillary since he said he thought she was the best candidate even as he says he supports her! I guess the superdelegates will get knocked off the fence come June 3 so we can end this thing. It's gone on too long enough! That being said, we'll probably go all the way to the convention on this one…

Ann, keep on telling your self Hilary is smarter, more experienced
and ready to govern from day one. Eventually, if you say it long enough,
you will believe it; and at the end, it does not mean a thing. The people have spoken, and they just do not want a liar in the White house.

I find myself immediately changing the channel whenever Clinton or her cronies spout the inevitable "I/she received more votes than any other candidate" drivel. I guess we know where the adage "rules were meant to be broken" comes from!

What's so desperate…makes since to me.

1) Count Florida and Michigan (even though you yourself said they shouldn't count, and there was no campaign there, and Barack was not even on the ballot in one of them)
2) Through out Maine, Nevada, Iowa and Washington (even though they did play by the rules)
3) Count Puerto Rico (even though they can't vote in the general)
4) Then completely arbitrarily use "popular vote" instead of delegate count to determine the winner.

Uh…I dunno, I guess so. Makes since to me.

Darryl, you are ridiculous. Governor Patterson has been one of her biggest supporters. I bet you are one of those people who complains that people call you racist for not supporting Obama. But look at you… anyone that doesn't support the scheming and manipulationg by Clinton must be pigeon holed into some demeaning characterization.

Tell me SD's — how does allowing Clinton to de-legitimize Senator Obama's nomination help the Dems in Nov??? You people are clearly not leaders. You're allowing the Clinton's to hold our party hostage. We will not forget.

Florida and Michigan should get a revote. Their so called leaders who pushed up their primaries should be out of office. Wonder why Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan? Did he know he wouldn't win? If Clinton gets robbed of the nomination I'm voting for McCain.

McAuliffe created this mess and now Hillary needs this to be undone to rob the nomination. She has a problem with it now because she is losing if she was winning she would not care if they were seated. The person we need to fix this country is OBAMA. Her is the only candidate left that is not in corporate americas pocket other than Nader. This country needs a fresh start. OBAMA '08 '12

She is shamelessly desperate! Pitiful really!

Why is she doing this?
To bring more problems to the already divided democratic party.
What is your goal? Is it to give Billary the nomination even though you and everyone know that she signed and approved both Michigan and Florida shouldn't be counted?

I guess you will continue to BS until she is the nominee.

Just think about everything happened during this primary season and ask yourself:
What did Obama do to upset Billary supporters?
Why is this much hatred against him?
Did Obama make the rules?
Did he force Billary to agree on MI and FL issues earlier?
How is it fair to even mention that Billary won MI?
Why is she a victim of gender knowing that more than %56 percent of the democratic voters were in fact women?(many of whom supported Obama )
Why is it that only the states she wins are important?
Do you really think Billary will win Florida knowing Christ is the governor? (I don't)
Do you still think the election results will be similar to the previous two?
What about the possibilities that Obama will win many old days Republican states? (Georgia, Alabama, Virginia, etc)

And finally, you claim that she was treated unfairly but your majority says she attacked Obama unfairly on the polls but then you voted for her (See Kentucky and W. Virginia polls!). What a contradiction? Do you really know what you want or what is best for the democratic party/this country?

I don't believe so, since more than half of you would support the Republican values then your own (your Clinton desire, just like hers, made you deaf and blind). I forgot maybe you don't have any!

See the reality, be fair and honest.
Good luck with your decision "whatever she may be"

CNN,

Why do you keep propelling the lie of the popular vote count? One has to not count the caucus states in the new Hillary math in order for her to obtain her silly numbers. Which oddly enough are white working majority's you claim Obama can't win.

If CNN was doing it's job as reporting NEWS, this outrage would be included in your story. Neither you nor she care about 'disenfranchising' voters in these caucus states that followed the rules. Where is that huge tidbit of info in your coverage?

Rule breakers get the limelight and can make the difference, meanwhile rule followers have no voice in the Clinton-News-Network, I'm really disgusted!

CNN you really are shameless in failing to educate the populace, you get a D- for failing to inform the public. Unless one is a political junkie they have little to no clue as to what the facts are, no thanks to your lopsided and biased reporting.

I am from Washington, how about counting the voters in my state? Or are Florida and Michigan more important to you than the Caucus states. Your numbers are flawed and you know it. This is getting beyond reasonable. We have had story tellers and misinformation coming out of the White House for 8 years. We don't need a candidate who seems to use the same methods as George Bush – lies. It is time to be a reasonable adult and set aside. Your tenacity looks more like a tantrum now.

Ding Ding Ding-

Give that man a prize. Desperation is correct!

She is only hurting the party, and she and her supporters are either completely blind, or, don't really care about the party.

This isn't a sporting event! The idea is to vote for the person who is most closely aligned with your views on the issues.

If you supported Hillary, then there is no argument, Obama is your guy. Unless you are a spiteful child!

Ann, why is the presidency "rightfully" Hillary's? When did she become queen?

The DNC will seat delegates from Florida and Michigan. Obama will have to agree to something. He can not decide to just dump on the Democrats from those two states.

We are seeing Obama's leadership skills on this issue and to this point it is to avoid responsibility and blame others. The Democratic Party is in his control as of this moment. That rules committee is looking to his campaign for direction. They already know that Clinton wants the delegates from Florida and Michigan to be seated.

How will Obama lead. We will find out in the next few days. Will he reach an agreement with Clinton? Will he tell the Democrat's in Florida and Michigan to jump off of a cliff? Or, will he blame Howard Dean? His leadership skills to this point has been to blame everyone else.

Let's see what he does… the country is watching.

if obama is crown king, i guess the american people deserve what they will surely get. It will be change alright, just not what you think.

Desperate? Ya think? I think this guy called her out pretty good.

May God have mercy on this woman. She made statements about the votes not counting. This is one of her dirty tatics to get what she wants. Those states chosed to be penalized and that is how it should remain. Again i will say if you have to do otherwise split the votes in half and then give each of them one fourth of a half. By not counting Florida and Michigan is the choice they made.

At last someone from the Clinton camp took courage to admit that Clinton is in complete denial can someone contact Dr. Phil maybe he can help Senator Clinton come to grips with reality.

Obama for President.

It always surprised me how low Hillary can go. As previously stated, she as well as Obama knew that the delegates won would not count in MI and FL. Crying foul now is just ridiculous.

And on that same note, for Hillary supporters, this was decided by the democratic party in FL and MI to move up the dates and therefore incur a penalty. Do not blame Barack Obama for following the rules.

I belive the delegates from both Florida and Michagan should not be seated because they broke the rules and they need to deal with the results of their actions.

Clinton desperate… so whats new.

It is unfair to penalize Florida Democrats for the political maneuvers of the governor and legislature. If Florida isn’t seated, and if this problem isn’t resolved, the Democratic Party will pay dearly in November.

The real issue is that EVERYONE in the DNC has stated that they will find a way to resolve the Florida and Michigan delegations. All the rhetoric is detracting. If every one just COOLS THE HECK OFF, the situation will be resolved by the convention. Once again, the democrats will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Sheer incompetence versus power hungry dictators. Ventura is right.

Hillary has lost the delegate count, superdelegate count, popular vote,
number of states won. No amount of desperation will change that fact.
In order to be the winner, you have to actually win. She lost. Notice that
the DNC is quiet about all of the media hype? That's because their
decision is final. They will not abide by Hillary's cheating. The most that
they are going to do is give a 50/50 split in FL and MI delegates, which
is the only fair thing to do. Hillary is just bluffing and trying to get the
voters riled up to fight for her just like the bullies who used to push other kids up to fight in middle school. This woman is a trip.

Getting desperate????? She has been desperate since Penn/ Ohio contests. More like she is trying to make sure Obama looses if she and Bill cannot win back the white house. Just embarrashing.

Eventhough he supports Hillary, he can see that what she is trying to do is beyong the pail. She is so sad. Please help her to accept that she is not and will not be the dem prez pick.

So why don't you stop talking and start doing by defecting to Obama.

Every week it's something new with you on local news here. Do something for heaven's sake.

Thank you, Governor Patterson!

Finally someone with some sense speaking up!

Why is everyone so scared to seat the delegates from Florida & Michigan??

I keep reading that Obama supporters are saying that Clinton is trying to steal the nomination and that is just crazy.

Clinton has a right to stay in the race (especially with such a close margin) all the way to the Democratic National Convention. She has every right to have the delegates seated from Michigan and Florida and she every right to present her case to the superdelegates that she has won the popular vote over Obama.

Why is everyone so upset??

It really does not matter because Obama will never be President of United States. I am so amazed that anyone truly believes that is even possible but I guess it okay to have a fantancy.

McCain in 2008

That's right, leave it the way it is. Every party rule that seems not to rob Obama to pay the Clintons even the long standing party rules has become wrong. Selfishness! These rules gave Bill nomination in the 90s. God sits in heaven and rules in the affairs of men. God's will amd council alone will continue to stand in American politics. Amen!

"He also noted none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year"

For all you numbskulls who keep blaming Obama for the fiasco in Florida and Michigan… read that sentence. Then read it again and agian until it finally get through to your brain…

HILLARY AGREED TO RULES, THEN (once she needed these states to win) TRIED TO CHANGE THEM!

Ann,

If Sen. Clinton is all the things you say and think she is, why isn't she winning?

Please stop shoving the Clintons down our throats. They will do a lot of damange to our country if allowed to be in White HOuse again.
Everyone knows it except CNN and hungry news media.. The people know it. Read Washington post polls. Clinton is not winning any states. True Read it. NewsMax polls. Clinton is losing against Obama and McCain. TRUE

He also noted none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.
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I especially like this point which isn't emphasized enough. Everyone is backing Clinton when she was in on the the agreement.

It's the same with her view on the war. She's so against it NOW. So her followers tend to forget that she voted for the war.

But yet SHE has the experience and judgement???? NOT.

To Ann — Don't you understand. It doesn't matter whether she thinks she is the best candidate. She has lost. There is not a reasonable way for her to win unless she turns the Democratic party on it's head and ends up destroying it. If, as she says, she wants the best for the country, she needs to drop out now so that there is a chance that we will have a Democrat as a president. If she remains in and stays in all the way to the convention, and ends up getting the nomination — she will not win the general because she will have split the party so horribly and will have turned off the independents.

Forget Patterson—he inherited his job—–plus he's a closet Obamarite.

Hillary—please announce your candidacy as an Independent ASAP. There's no way you can lose if you pit Obama against McCain with you picking up all the marbles.

Hillary08′.

Oh dear – cue the "Judas" screams from Hillary's camp. Patterson's publicly stating that FL & MI delegates should not be seated at all!

Rules? We don't need no stinking rules!

Unfortunately for Ms Clinton there are videos on YouTube of her saying that MI and FL would not count … before she NEEDED them to count to continue hanging on by a thread. No insincerity or hypocrisy to be found in that lady, no siree!

What she sees as "strength" and "representative of all women" is actually humiliating many women (not all, but many) and will help fuel continued sexism in this country. Her screaming, name calling and other antics isn't helping (and has driven many people away)

Desperation – I thought she was the "tough" one? Why not go down with dignity and honor – traits of a true leader.

too bad obama will get stomped in November.

No, wait.. its not too bad! Bwahahahaha

Go Hillary!!!!

Please go away Hillary. You had everything going for you: a tremendous lead in the polls, money, big donors, the weight of the Democratic Party behind you, a popular ex-President for a husband, name recognition and no real contender. You blew it and now you are in debt, trying to change the rules, behind in the popular vote, behind in the pledged delegate count, and in danger of losing your legacy. Maybe it is due to PTSD from dodging sniper bullets, but whatever the reason it is time to get out NOW!

Thanks Gov! Maybe you should let her know that she won't have her senate job in NY if she continues with this!

I always suspected the Republicans were much smarter than the democrats. This whole debacle just solidifies my theory. I can't wait to see what happens next. All I know for sure is Hillary Clinton is the best player on our team.

IF A BLIND MAN CAN SEE THE WRITING ON TEH WALL WHY CAN'T CLINTON.

STAY IN TEH RACE ALL YOU WANT, BUT DON'T ASK FOR UNREALISTIC CONCESSIONS.

ALL IS FAIR UNTIL YOU ARE LOSING.

I LIKE HILLARY, BUT I KNOW SHE HAS LOST, SO NOW MY FOCUS IS ON GETTING OBAMA THE PRESIDENCY AND THAT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS OF ALL WHO CLAIM TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.

THERE IS NO WAY A "REAL" DEMOCRAT CAN SUPPORT CLINTON AND MCCAIN'S VIEWS THEY ARE NIGHT AND DAY. IF THEY VOTE MCCAIN THEY WILL BE DOING IT TOTALLY OUT OF SPITE.

LOSING GRACEFULLY IS A SIGN OF CHARACTER AND WAS TAUGHT IN EVERY POP-WARNER AND LITTLE LEAGUE. CLINTON SUPPORTS NEED TO REMEBER THAT.

Sen. Clinton Can't See The Forest Because of The Trees!

Even supporters of Hillary Clinton are aware that in order to win the nomination, let alone the presidency, she has to overcome the public perception of being driven by cold, calculating ambition.

She Didn't Have To Overcome Anythig. Has Been a Non-issue, Because She Is White. People Are Still Voting For Her!

She supported the rules before the primaries, the only reason she wants to change them now is because she's losing. She does not care at all about being fair, all she cares about is herself and grabbing power.

By the remote chance she does win, she's only weaking herself.

The Democrats in charge really need to get behind Obama in the next couple of weeks. They can't afford to wait until the convention months down the road to decide who their pick is. Obama needs to focus on the General election so we don't have another destructive Repubilcan president.

I wish her supporters can see that. If her super delgates see this and how this is destroying the party, perhaps they should start to switch there endorsements so that the Democrats can get on with beating McCain. If not, then the Democrats are doomed to 4 more years of McBush

This is the first time somebody has stated this whole Florida and Michigan correctly. I am an Obama supporter but I will say that playing by the rules has alway worked for everyone, why change it now. All the candidates, from the begining of this primary season, accepted these rules, including the Clintons. Why cry wolf now? Is it because they are losing? Florida and Michigan knew what they were getting into by moving up there primaries. Now they get to pay the prize. Even if Obama doesn't win, I will NEVER vote for the Clintons for any office.

I have taught my children that they cannot changes the rules of a game just to please themselves, and they understand that there integrity is at stake (they are 9 and 11 years old). Lets all hold HRC and McCrutch to the same standard for our country's sake.

It's time for the super delegates to get off the fence and put this primary to bed. The more desperate clinton gets the more the democratic party looks like a bunch of baffoons (sp)

Entitlement – that's the essence of her approach to everything. Rules don't matter to her – only her sense of being entitled. Screw that. All the feminist jargon in the world won't intimidate the majority of voters into saying something loud and clear: we don't like her, and we don't want her.

This is the KEY point in Hillary's argument: She could have done exactly what Patterson did he OBJECTED to the initial vote for the action. What did Hillary do: SHE SIGNED THE LETTER STRIPING FL & MI OF THERE DELAGATES.

Why is she now going agains what she signed and approved….because this is all about HILLARY.

Obama isn't to that magic number yet so Clinton can go on which isn't being desperate its called an opponent. When all the states are counted and he gets the delagtes needed she will drop out. It sounds like Paterson is going to be another turncoat and used his desperate excuse in doing so.

She IS the best candidate, but she doesn't have the best chance of winning anymore. This isn't the first time an inferior candidate won…even in recent history (ie: Gore/Bush).

Talk about hope…I'm not giving up hope that the superdelgates will get some cajones and say they're going to vote for the candidate most likely to beat the republicans in Nov. If they stay in their coma, then I'm voting for McCain.

She won't drop out…….simple as that. She can't……she is representing the millions of women in our workplace who have been told they can't do it, they can't make it.

Yes, this was a gender issue from the beginning……and women see her as opening the gender doors…..it is just unfortunate that she is NOT the best QUALIFIED candidate to run the US.

But the truth can't be disguised, mislead, or deceived anymore. It's obvious now she can't win……..I just wish she was a better sport about it………..

She is ruining the Democratic party, and actually closing the doors on potential other women candidates in the future. Who wants to deal with this kind of woman again? A deceptive, kniving, back stabbing, "say anything" politician who will stomp on anyone who goes against her????

This whole delegate thing is a supreme fiasco. Has everyone forgotten that Hillary sat down and decided many months ago that the people of Florida and Michigan should not have their votes counted. Why has she flip flopped? Because she's losing. The facts haven't changed from then 'til now. The only thing has changed is the fact that she's losing her bid to become President. Is anybody else not wondering why she didn't fight this hard when they were making the decision? I would like for someone to ask her why didn't she fight this hard then. I would like to know what she thinks about all of the people who didn't vote. Would they not be disenfranchised if the votes now counted. I agree, both states' delegates should count. The bottom line is this – there is no way to seat any of the delegates without disenfranchising some voters. It's sad, but true. Barack Obama is going to secure the Democratic nomination for President. Now, really, is that news to anyone? Yes, the Clintons.

SHE AND BILL HAVE NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the Clintons are trying to influence Cnn and Cnn is biting it. When I looked at the Situation room today I felt a lot of Bill Clinton.
I think Cnn should stop promoting the Clintons. They cannot be allowd in OUR White House again. They lie, cheat and steal. And that is a proven fact. So stop already. Regarding the polls.
We can set polls anyway we want them to look. Obama has the majority. Clinton should leave so she doesn't do anymore damage to the democrats. She is getting abrasively hysterical. She is doing a lot of damage and her old baggage will all come up in the fall if she dares to try to run. We need chanage. The Clintons cannot and will ot do that.

No Duh Sherlock? What's your next case?

Thank you Gov.!

But you know………..seeing her is funny as hell!

It's also great to see the media is now talking more about Obama and Mc Shame and leaving Hillary out to play in the dirt by herself!

Go Bam!

Why are you still supporting her? you said she is desperate and you know she is not going to be the nominee, come and join Obama's boat.

Obama 2008

its waste discussing about clintons anymore….she just playoing spoil sport here..

I have lost ALL respect for Bill and Hillary.. …I guess this is what happens after fighting with the republicans for the last 20 years… you become just like THEM.
Obama/Hagel ( I want Chuck Hagel to be VP)

Nice to see that there are Clinton supporters that realize that Senator's Clinton insistence on Michigan and Florida is a desperate move. I would go so far to say it is also a selfish move. She was offered a Michigan compromise which would have given her more of the delegates but she rejected it. I hear supporters say that it was Obama's fault that he removed his name. As we all know but unfortunately some of us don't hear clearly enough – He was not the only Democrat that removed their names and Clinton agreed/signed and did not argue with the DNC about stripping Michigan and FL – until it was to her benefit to dispute it.

An he is a supporter of hers! When will she take the hint and just get out of the race? The superdelegates are letting her make a mockery of the Democratic Party. It has been very "entertaining" but I think the Supers need to take running for the Oval Office a little more serious.

Florida and Michigan should not count. Both states were told by the Democratic Party when they could and couldn't have their primaries, and both states violated those rules. Did the voters in those states think the party was bluffing? They ended up wasting their time in what really amounts to a straw poll.

It is so obvious why Hillary wants to count FL and MI: in states where no Democrat campaigned, the candidate who has better name recognition wins. When Hillary won those states, few people had even heard of Barack Obama, but everyone knew who the former first lady was.

Hillary has a problem – whether it's emotional, psychological or mental, she has a problem.

We have not even begun to see the train wreck that is coming down the pike. I wouldn't be surprised if she eventually takes this to the supreme court in the end.

Obama could have 2025 votes, 2209, or 10,000.

She will just keep moving the goal posts and demanding more rule changes .

Sore losers never quit, but they cheat, lie, and nag you to death until you do.

Don't do it Barack, we are with you.

Hmmm.. even a blind man can see the writting on the wall!

Best line in this story:

"He also noted none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year."

Says it all.

Obama 08

'Desperate' would be one way of putting it. Another way to put it would be 'insane' or 'psychotic'.

WE THOUGHT THE CLINTON DIRT DIARIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE

WERE THE LOWEST THE CLINTONS CAN GO. WERE WE WRONG

OR WHAT. THE TWO OF THEM USED THE RACE CARD, THE

WOMAN CARD, THE JEWISH CARD THE ELITIST . WE DREAD TO

THINK WHAT CARD SHE & SLICK WILLIE ARE GOING TO USE NEXT.

DO YOU HEAR WHAT I HEAR? VOICES OF REASON, WHISPERING WORDS OF WISDOM, ….LET IT BE….. LET IT BE.

She can always run in 2012 and she might consider that a governorship wouldn't be such a bad item to add to her resume or even a cabniet appointment. The point is, she has options. Losing this race isn't the end of the world for her. She'd server herself better by doing everything she can to unite the Democrats. She can use the time win friends & influence people and next time she runs, she'll have a much better strategy.

Only in America….

Madness right and left, so this how the country will be under the democrats, Obama or Clinton and their “super”delegates? Maybe our country would have even been worst than now if we have a democrat in the white house. I’m SOO FRUSTRATED with the inability of the party to come together. I voted for Clinton, but now even a kindergarten can tell who will win this primary, and instead of rallying around the clear party bearer, we just smear Sen. Obama with too many negatives and compromises his chances of winning. With all due respect to Sen. Clinton, even if she go to the presidency in a miraculous way, the credibility of her presidency will be tainted, and all of us will suffer.

Which rules will she uphold? Honesty, integrity and responsibility are values we need in a President. MI and FL both broke rules established in August of 2006. There was no surprise in their punishment. It fit the behavior. They knew it before they decided to flaunt the rest of the country with their terrible behavior.

Why didn't the people of FL & MI protest their state legislators very, very poor decision at the time it happened?

Hillary Clinton is showing a very negative side of her character in this fiasco. Which rules will she abide by? Is she above the rules? Absolutely not. Shame on you Hillary Clinton.

Thank you Gov. Patterson for being forthcoming on the realism in the new episode of Queen Hillary's demands. She is extremely desperately objectionable now since she's losing but all the while she was ahead she never objected to the penalty. Fla. and Michigan I hope you see that she could careless about you she just wants to win and win by any means necessary.

HELLO? She's been desperate since the day before the New Hampshire primary. Where have you been?

She's a low-life, selfish, self-centered woman, who will stop at nothing, and I mean nothing to get what she wants. She wants to be president, and she can't STAND that the American people have something to say about that.

Hillary you are the best but the media and government doesn't want you. So they are force feeding us Obama.
I will write Hillary on my vote in November just like alot of people will. Obama will no way win in November.
Most of all Hillary supporters will write her name in or vote Mc Cain.
The End

I am just a typical white female who retired when I was 42, have 4 college degrees, teach at a college in Florida and will never vote or be a member of the Dem Party again…I have never seen such bias against a woman in all my 62 years, why don't you just make Obama the King of America…I thought that some of the media were suppose to be reporting the news not voting for the PEOPLE…Sonja M.

Please vote for Hillary.She is the most electable candidate.I know it and so do the few million fellow repubs.Vote for her because she is a woman.
Vote for her because she is most electable.If you ask me, this primary itself is a joke.How dare the black man even think he stood a chance.No way !
Also seating MI and FL is very important. After all we want her to be in the WH at any cost. Obama is trying to change the political system.He thinks he can run the show without the lobbyists.Well, we will show him.
McCain + Hillary – after all they share the same values !
McCain + Hillary – till eternity !

She started to get desperate weeks ago. I wish someone would talk some sense to her and get her to step down. What she has been saying is only going to hurt us Democrats in November.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Hmmm. WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE BEFORE THE PRIMARIES AND NOW TO CAUSE HER TO COME TO THIS CONCLUSION?

Before she found out she was losing, she was perfectly fine with "changing a central governing rule of this country". (PAY ATTENTION FL AND MI) Superdelegates, would you please put this horse down!? It's suffering and will not survive the primaries. Sometimes you have to save people from themselves. FL/MI do you REALLY think HRC cares about your votes counting if they are for Obama? She didn't care until she lost. DON'T BUY HER SNAKE OIL, PEOPLE! You're smarter than that!!!!!!

Senator Clinton is only doing what is correct in our democracy. Every vote should be counted including those in Florida and Michigan. Those who oppose these votes are Obama supporters who want him to win by default and corruption. Senator Clinton cares about all Americans and voters. Obama cares only for those who vote for him. He did not get the majority in either state and he knows that. I just heard his speech in Florida. What a disgusting show. Anything to win is his motto.

In true Clinton fashion Hillary is playing like the rules of the game do not apply to her. This is the exact reason that I do not agree that she all the ability and experience to lead this country as her supporters think. Michigan and Florida knew the consequences of breaking the rules and they did it anyway. Do you think that Hillary would support seating the delegations singing the "everyone's vote shlould count" song if they were critical for Obama? This is just another example of the ruthless, selfserving spin Hillary puts on everything. With her Grandmotherly smile she lies to our faces. I know that playing fair is not what most politicians do but she is taking this to another level. Hillary, the citizens of the country you would like to lead are not as stupid as you think!

Its rather unfortunate that this lady will try to destroy the party simply because she doesn't get her way. She signed off on the rules from the beginning. This fight would've been a lot easier prior to the beginning of the nomination process but where was she? It would've even been easier prior to Super Tuesday or even up till the end of February but she was no where to be found then. She falls behind in March and then starts this whole movement around "fighting for the rights of all Americans." I'm not for taking away people's votes but everyone understood the rules including the state officials that approved it, the people that went to vote and the candidates. Furthermore, I hate deceit and I hate when people think they are so smart to pull a fast one of me and others. Hillary Clinton is doing exactly that to try to steal this nomination. This would be the first election that I'll be voting in only if Obama is the nominee because if Hillary steals it I'm not willing to taint my first vote with this deceitful and self-serving candidate. Plus, there's no way in this world that I'll be voting for McCain

Thanks Gov Patterson

Why do the Clintons always "crew up" whatever they touch, including Paula, Monica, Whitewater, White House items…. and the list goes on!

When will the Dems find the time to uplift their nominee for the general election?

What are the Dems interested in: a fair nominating process OR a dynasty of families?

Bye Bye Hillary,
don't let the door stop you from leaving.

I'm glad he's being honest. I wish Clinton's supporters would stop blinding supporting her. The reality is she could careless about Florida and Michigan being disenfranchised. All she cares about it winning the nomination. They didn't matter when she agree with the penalties and they don't matter to her now.

Why aren,t there enough pundits asking these loonies that come on there show where was the outrage when the DNC decided that the FL & MI votes would not be counted. These people make me sick, everybody knew the rules when the primary stated. To suddenly change the rules to benefit your interest goes against what America stands for.

Who to thank for the Florida ~ Michigan debacle??

HOWARD DEAN

At least he is honest about it. He is also brave enough not to fear to offend the Clintons.

It's interesting how the CLinton camp and her supporters continue to gloss over the fact that Clinton was the only major candidate on the Michigan ballot. If the people who voted in MI are being disenfranchised, what about the people that did not vote because thier candadite was not on the ballot? Or do only Clintons supporters have the right to vote? The only fair way to solve this problem is a revote in both FL and MI. Seating the delegates the way they already voted is ludidris and another cheap and low tactic of the Clinton-win-by-any-means-neccesary-scorched-earth-approach.

"Desperate"? YA THINK????????????

I hope and pray this nightmare ends soon, for the good of the people, the Democratic party and our beloved country.

OBAMA 08

If the rules don't suit you – change the pants-suit er rules…

WELL SHE HAS USED THE RACE CARD, THE JEWISH CARD,

THE WOMAN CARD, & IS RUNNING OUT OF CARDS.

SHE IS CLOSE TO ACCUSING OBAMA OF BEING A MARTIAN.

What more needs to be said?

even your drones are seeing your true ego driven colors. give it up.

Astute man, despite his fast and loose manners when it comes to keeping his zipper closed. Any sane person willing to indulge a little bit of their brain cells can see that this whole argument is meangless and is a complete waste of our time.
What is worring me is that the DNC has no spine, just like a lot of people suspect. Are they scared of the Clintons and if so why?

The Governor speaks the truth; she agreed to the rules and now she is the ring-leader for ruining it for everybody and purposely dividing the party.

I agree. She's out of control w/ this Fl and MI stuff. She agreed to the rules beforehand, and now wants to change them only to suit her individual purpose. I think it's wrong, and it's even more deplorable that her supporters are going along with this and rallying in DC. Right is right and wrong is wrong, and regardless of whom you support, you have got to be smart enough to see that this is a ruse. I'm supporting Obama over Clinton (after A LOT of consideration because I've always had a firm respect and love for the Clintons), but I was willing to support her as well if she won the nomination. I will not support her if she wins by this means.

Democrat '08

Too bad two of her biggest supporters spearheaded the effort to not just not seat the delegates, but to strip them entirely, so that no one could play political games with those delegates in the primary.

Maybe should start by apologizing for that to FL and MI and then admit the real reason she is their champion NOW.

Finally some people on her side are starting to see the light.
Thank you for finally noting her lack of opposition to boycotting Florida and Michigan back in the fall. Only when she is losing a growing more desparate does she finally "care" about the will of the voters.

Some people are still asking odd questions like "What does Hillary Clinton want?" Hillary decided to run for President in 2008.

A majority of Americans said they want Hillary Clinton.

I really believe Hillary is the only candidate with a stronger and wider coalition and could win in November.

I just can't see that with McCain and Obama.

Hillary would be fighting very hard against seating these delegates if they favored Obama………..she likes to bend the rules when they are in her favor only.

She signed the same agreement that everybody else did. Now she wants to ignore that fact. Is this the kind of thing she would do as President? If so, I do not want her in that office. She is clearly not a person who can be trusted to keep her word when she agrees to something……even in writing!

Desperation is a sickening odor, and HRC should bow out. For a woman of her stature, she should have bowed out when she could have done so gracefully. Now, she is fouling the name of herself, her family, her supporters, the Democratic Party, and the United States of America. The system we have is set up the way it is for reasons. In the land of the free, we play by the rules. If you agree to the rules, along with everyone else, you have zero wiggle room. You're like a teenager going back on a promise Hillary. Please, please just quit digging yourself, and those of us who want a united Democratic Party, in a giant hole. It is now time for damage control. Best of luck, HRC.

America 08

Okay Clinton supporters, us Obama supporters don't have to say a word, he said it ALL.

She just doesn't get it! It was all fine and dandy when she thought that she had the democratic nomination locked up. She underestimated Obama and now that she's LOSING, she wants to change the game. Desperation is reeling its ugly head. Every week she comes up with a new reason for staying in the race. Hillary, how about taking some time off to figure out how you're going to pay your debts?! Just about everyone knows that this primary race is over–except for you. Desperate AND delusional……

and this is from a male, black, superdelegate supporter of hers……

maybe some more of her close supporters/financiers can huddle around her and tell her how she is tearing apart DEm party. How does Sen Clinton voters will forgive her for what she is doing like a whiner. Media should check the people who are trying to organize the protest who these people are supporting and it will be very clear Sen Clinton. SUPERS LOOK WHAT SHE IS DOING TO THE PARTY, MAKE HER STOP WITHA RESOUNDING NO TO HER. IWAS IN FAVOR OF HER MAYBE AS A VP BUT SHE HAS SPENT ALL HER GOODWILL FROM VOTERS. IT IS GETTING DANGEROUS DEMS MAY NOT WIN IN NOV PUT AN END TO IT.

Even a blind guy can see it!

I'm sure about 95% of the top democrats agree 100% with the Patterson. It's just that Clinton and her bullies have to be treated delicately unfortunately since she's so childish.

Hillary does not have the dignity or integrity, or concern for her party to
gracefully exit this race even with the odds stacked against her
She is so self absorbed she would rather tear the party down until it becomes so devisive a democrat will never win in the fall
The media keep putting her up on some pedestal and tearing Barack Obama down at every chance they get
Well guess what *hes still standing* and ahead
the only way they the Clintons will win this is to cheat lie and steal!!!
how any American can vote for them in good conscience is beyond my comprehension
Obama will walk to the white house with his negatives in a suitcase
The clintons would need a moving van for theirs
you stay strong Senator Obama you have *good energy* on your side

He is cheating again.

I thank God for giving this man the true honesty to say that. "No one objecting to it.". I also agree that the 2 states should not be seated for their lack of character to the rules. If they change the rules for Hillary what message does that send to our country and to the world!

Well, I appreciate the fact that Patterson is sticking by Clinton, but at the same time presenting a fair view of where the nomination is headed. I think he should be commended for his loyalty, even though it is apparent to him that it is only a matter of time before Obama is the nominee.

And I hope his eye is better after the surgery!!

–wow,

what took him so long to notice that?

she is worst than bush..

only fools would vote for someone who said yes to war, only fools.

I don't think she's desperate….I think she expects to get what is rightfully hers. Obama is not President material…and he CANNOT win against McCain….Obama cannot hold a candle to Hillary Clinton. She's brighter, more experience, and has more integrity than Wright's right hand man, Obama. The very fact that he is already looking for a running mate…he hasn't even gotten the nomination and he probably won't…by the grace of God…God Bless America…..Hillary 08

EVEN THE BLING GOVERNOR CAN see WHAT HILLARY IS DOING!

Did any of you think that many people who want to vote for obama didn't go to the polls .. did any of you think that there was a realestate thing on the ballot in FLA at the time. and that why there was big turn out.. C'mon .. she desprate and backstabbing the democratic party..

Rule-breaking for HER benefit. Not our country's. Desperation indeed.

Getting?… um, think you mean "Has been since Super-Tuesday"

Clinton agreed to the arrangement. Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan. Neither gave speeches in Florida.

Saying that you "won" in Michigan is ridiculous. That's like having an illegal street race where one driver pulls out cause he knows it's wrong, but then the other keeps going, claiming a victory in a race that wasn't even valid, against an opponent that didn't even race.

But hey, at least you won in West Virginia right? That means you'll be President, doesn't it. Time to bow out gracefully and endorse Obama.

Democrat '08

Notice the following two sentences that Patterson spoke:

"I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

He says he is still supporting her but used past tense in describing her candidacy now. Patterson show have said 'I THINK', not "I THOUGHT"!

It's okay Patterson. We know you want to support Obama.

Obama in 08!

I know that what I witnessed in our "Texas Two Step" was horrifying!

What happened wasn't close to meeting election laws and it was not democratic!

It is why I know that Obama and his thugs have stolen this Primary season.

The fact that they ended up with more delegates then possible is the sure proof of "Funny" business.

I will never vote for a cheater!

He just noticed?! Well, better late than never. Hopefully, he can get the other supporters to see the obvious too!

OBAMA-08!

She is desperate. If they are seated "just the way they voted", then what are the rules for?

There has to be some kind of punishment.

One of the smartest comments I have seen come from anyone in a long time. Petterson is dead on with his comments and thank you for stating so publically.

Twisting the truth — that is what Hillary does so well.

In so many words even her backers, the ones with brains, are telling her it's time to stop.

I noticed the deperation too recently… She has been desperate since she realized she was running against other people.

"Desperate" doesn't begin to describe it…

The once inevitable nominee has been bested and cannot accept it…

I agree – does anyone besides Clinton folks believe their own bull? Her campaign's reasoning is completely nuts!

Well at least some of her supporters at the top are now realizing what she's doing. Desperate is the key word here. She is puliing out all the stops and I really hope that she will stop after June.

Well, isn't that surprising. Gee is he included in that 92% that is for Obama on the "issues".

Like the rest of us, Patterson can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.