May 23rd, 2008
06:30 AM ET
2 years ago

Supporter says Clinton getting desperate

Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan.
Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan.

(CNN) – New York Gov. David Paterson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House bid, said Friday the New York senator is showing signs of "desperation" in her continued push to get the full delegations of Michigan and Florida seated.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told New York radio station WAMC, according to the New York Daily News. "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

The comments come a day after Clinton delivered a fiery speech in Florida demanding that that state's delegation, as well as Michigan's, be fully seated at the party's convention in August. The party stripped both states of their delegations last year after the state legislatures there voted to hold their primaries before February 5.

Clinton won both states' primaries, though Barack Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Clinton uses popular vote totals from both Florida in Michigan in her claim that she is beating the Illinois senator in the overall popular vote.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Paterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

He also noted none of the presidential candidates - including Hillary Clinton - objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.


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  1. Greg

    In true Clinton fashion Hillary is playing like the rules of the game do not apply to her. This is the exact reason that I do not agree that she all the ability and experience to lead this country as her supporters think. Michigan and Florida knew the consequences of breaking the rules and they did it anyway. Do you think that Hillary would support seating the delegations singing the "everyone's vote shlould count" song if they were critical for Obama? This is just another example of the ruthless, selfserving spin Hillary puts on everything. With her Grandmotherly smile she lies to our faces. I know that playing fair is not what most politicians do but she is taking this to another level. Hillary, the citizens of the country you would like to lead are not as stupid as you think!

    May 22, 2008 05:02 pm at 5:02 pm |
  2. Mai

    Senator Clinton is only doing what is correct in our democracy. Every vote should be counted including those in Florida and Michigan. Those who oppose these votes are Obama supporters who want him to win by default and corruption. Senator Clinton cares about all Americans and voters. Obama cares only for those who vote for him. He did not get the majority in either state and he knows that. I just heard his speech in Florida. What a disgusting show. Anything to win is his motto.

    May 22, 2008 05:02 pm at 5:02 pm |
  3. RB

    “I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

    Hmmm. WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE BEFORE THE PRIMARIES AND NOW TO CAUSE HER TO COME TO THIS CONCLUSION?

    Before she found out she was losing, she was perfectly fine with "changing a central governing rule of this country". (PAY ATTENTION FL AND MI) Superdelegates, would you please put this horse down!? It's suffering and will not survive the primaries. Sometimes you have to save people from themselves. FL/MI do you REALLY think HRC cares about your votes counting if they are for Obama? She didn't care until she lost. DON'T BUY HER SNAKE OIL, PEOPLE! You're smarter than that!!!!!!

    May 22, 2008 05:02 pm at 5:02 pm |
  4. Fla Sam

    She started to get desperate weeks ago. I wish someone would talk some sense to her and get her to step down. What she has been saying is only going to hurt us Democrats in November.

    May 22, 2008 05:03 pm at 5:03 pm |
  5. Hillary - go all the way - dont worry about the party !!!!

    Please vote for Hillary.She is the most electable candidate.I know it and so do the few million fellow repubs.Vote for her because she is a woman.
    Vote for her because she is most electable.If you ask me, this primary itself is a joke.How dare the black man even think he stood a chance.No way !
    Also seating MI and FL is very important. After all we want her to be in the WH at any cost. Obama is trying to change the political system.He thinks he can run the show without the lobbyists.Well, we will show him.
    McCain + Hillary – after all they share the same values !
    McCain + Hillary – till eternity !

    May 22, 2008 05:03 pm at 5:03 pm |
  6. Sonja Midgette A typical white female

    I am just a typical white female who retired when I was 42, have 4 college degrees, teach at a college in Florida and will never vote or be a member of the Dem Party again...I have never seen such bias against a woman in all my 62 years, why don't you just make Obama the King of America...I thought that some of the media were suppose to be reporting the news not voting for the PEOPLE...Sonja M.

    May 22, 2008 05:03 pm at 5:03 pm |
  7. Terry

    Hillary you are the best but the media and government doesn't want you. So they are force feeding us Obama.
    I will write Hillary on my vote in November just like alot of people will. Obama will no way win in November.
    Most of all Hillary supporters will write her name in or vote Mc Cain.
    The End

    May 22, 2008 05:04 pm at 5:04 pm |
  8. Hello....hello....

    HELLO? She's been desperate since the day before the New Hampshire primary. Where have you been?

    She's a low-life, selfish, self-centered woman, who will stop at nothing, and I mean nothing to get what she wants. She wants to be president, and she can't STAND that the American people have something to say about that.

    May 22, 2008 05:04 pm at 5:04 pm |
  9. sdn

    Thank you Gov. Patterson for being forthcoming on the realism in the new episode of Queen Hillary's demands. She is extremely desperately objectionable now since she's losing but all the while she was ahead she never objected to the penalty. Fla. and Michigan I hope you see that she could careless about you she just wants to win and win by any means necessary.

    May 22, 2008 05:04 pm at 5:04 pm |
  10. Sherri

    Which rules will she uphold? Honesty, integrity and responsibility are values we need in a President. MI and FL both broke rules established in August of 2006. There was no surprise in their punishment. It fit the behavior. They knew it before they decided to flaunt the rest of the country with their terrible behavior.

    Why didn't the people of FL & MI protest their state legislators very, very poor decision at the time it happened?

    Hillary Clinton is showing a very negative side of her character in this fiasco. Which rules will she abide by? Is she above the rules? Absolutely not. Shame on you Hillary Clinton.

    May 22, 2008 05:04 pm at 5:04 pm |
  11. John Cruz

    Madness right and left, so this how the country will be under the democrats, Obama or Clinton and their “super”delegates? Maybe our country would have even been worst than now if we have a democrat in the white house. I’m SOO FRUSTRATED with the inability of the party to come together. I voted for Clinton, but now even a kindergarten can tell who will win this primary, and instead of rallying around the clear party bearer, we just smear Sen. Obama with too many negatives and compromises his chances of winning. With all due respect to Sen. Clinton, even if she go to the presidency in a miraculous way, the credibility of her presidency will be tainted, and all of us will suffer.

    May 22, 2008 05:04 pm at 5:04 pm |
  12. arc

    Only in America....

    May 22, 2008 05:05 pm at 5:05 pm |
  13. Jeanne, San Diego

    She can always run in 2012 and she might consider that a governorship wouldn't be such a bad item to add to her resume or even a cabniet appointment. The point is, she has options. Losing this race isn't the end of the world for her. She'd server herself better by doing everything she can to unite the Democrats. She can use the time win friends & influence people and next time she runs, she'll have a much better strategy.

    May 22, 2008 05:05 pm at 5:05 pm |
  14. GERIATIC

    DO YOU HEAR WHAT I HEAR? VOICES OF REASON, WHISPERING WORDS OF WISDOM, ....LET IT BE..... LET IT BE.

    May 22, 2008 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  15. 58 white old ladies for OBAMA

    WE THOUGHT THE CLINTON DIRT DIARIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE

    WERE THE LOWEST THE CLINTONS CAN GO. WERE WE WRONG

    OR WHAT. THE TWO OF THEM USED THE RACE CARD, THE

    WOMAN CARD, THE JEWISH CARD THE ELITIST . WE DREAD TO

    THINK WHAT CARD SHE & SLICK WILLIE ARE GOING TO USE NEXT.

    May 22, 2008 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  16. Beltway Insider

    'Desperate' would be one way of putting it. Another way to put it would be 'insane' or 'psychotic'.

    May 22, 2008 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  17. Julie

    Hmmm.. even a blind man can see the writting on the wall!

    Best line in this story:

    "He also noted none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year."

    Says it all.

    Obama 08

    May 22, 2008 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  18. She's the Pill of the Century.....

    Sore losers never quit, but they cheat, lie, and nag you to death until you do.

    Don't do it Barack, we are with you.

    May 22, 2008 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  19. T Williams

    Hillary has a problem – whether it's emotional, psychological or mental, she has a problem.

    We have not even begun to see the train wreck that is coming down the pike. I wouldn't be surprised if she eventually takes this to the supreme court in the end.

    Obama could have 2025 votes, 2209, or 10,000.

    She will just keep moving the goal posts and demanding more rule changes .

    May 22, 2008 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  20. Dave in Houston

    Florida and Michigan should not count. Both states were told by the Democratic Party when they could and couldn't have their primaries, and both states violated those rules. Did the voters in those states think the party was bluffing? They ended up wasting their time in what really amounts to a straw poll.

    It is so obvious why Hillary wants to count FL and MI: in states where no Democrat campaigned, the candidate who has better name recognition wins. When Hillary won those states, few people had even heard of Barack Obama, but everyone knew who the former first lady was.

    May 22, 2008 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  21. Cindy - Canada

    An he is a supporter of hers! When will she take the hint and just get out of the race? The superdelegates are letting her make a mockery of the Democratic Party. It has been very "entertaining" but I think the Supers need to take running for the Oval Office a little more serious.

    May 22, 2008 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  22. MM

    Nice to see that there are Clinton supporters that realize that Senator's Clinton insistence on Michigan and Florida is a desperate move. I would go so far to say it is also a selfish move. She was offered a Michigan compromise which would have given her more of the delegates but she rejected it. I hear supporters say that it was Obama's fault that he removed his name. As we all know but unfortunately some of us don't hear clearly enough – He was not the only Democrat that removed their names and Clinton agreed/signed and did not argue with the DNC about stripping Michigan and FL – until it was to her benefit to dispute it.

    May 22, 2008 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  23. Ardnuas

    I have lost ALL respect for Bill and Hillary.. ...I guess this is what happens after fighting with the republicans for the last 20 years... you become just like THEM.
    Obama/Hagel ( I want Chuck Hagel to be VP)

    May 22, 2008 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  24. shan

    its waste discussing about clintons anymore....she just playoing spoil sport here..

    May 22, 2008 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  25. John Okon

    Why are you still supporting her? you said she is desperate and you know she is not going to be the nominee, come and join Obama's boat.

    Obama 2008

    May 22, 2008 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
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