May 23rd, 2008
06:30 AM ET
1 year ago

Supporter says Clinton getting desperate

Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan.
Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan.

(CNN) – New York Gov. David Paterson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House bid, said Friday the New York senator is showing signs of "desperation" in her continued push to get the full delegations of Michigan and Florida seated.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told New York radio station WAMC, according to the New York Daily News. "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

The comments come a day after Clinton delivered a fiery speech in Florida demanding that that state's delegation, as well as Michigan's, be fully seated at the party's convention in August. The party stripped both states of their delegations last year after the state legislatures there voted to hold their primaries before February 5.

Clinton won both states' primaries, though Barack Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Clinton uses popular vote totals from both Florida in Michigan in her claim that she is beating the Illinois senator in the overall popular vote.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Paterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

He also noted none of the presidential candidates - including Hillary Clinton - objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.


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soundoff (412 Responses)
  1. Venus

    Thank you Gov.!

    But you know...........seeing her is funny as hell!

    It's also great to see the media is now talking more about Obama and Mc Shame and leaving Hillary out to play in the dirt by herself!

    Go Bam!

    May 22, 2008 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  2. This doesn't matter either

    No Duh Sherlock? What's your next case?

    May 22, 2008 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  3. Audrey Marie

    I think the Clintons are trying to influence Cnn and Cnn is biting it. When I looked at the Situation room today I felt a lot of Bill Clinton.
    I think Cnn should stop promoting the Clintons. They cannot be allowd in OUR White House again. They lie, cheat and steal. And that is a proven fact. So stop already. Regarding the polls.
    We can set polls anyway we want them to look. Obama has the majority. Clinton should leave so she doesn't do anymore damage to the democrats. She is getting abrasively hysterical. She is doing a lot of damage and her old baggage will all come up in the fall if she dares to try to run. We need chanage. The Clintons cannot and will ot do that.

    May 22, 2008 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  4. GERALD STROTHER

    SHE AND BILL HAVE NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 22, 2008 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  5. Damion K. Miles

    This whole delegate thing is a supreme fiasco. Has everyone forgotten that Hillary sat down and decided many months ago that the people of Florida and Michigan should not have their votes counted. Why has she flip flopped? Because she's losing. The facts haven't changed from then 'til now. The only thing has changed is the fact that she's losing her bid to become President. Is anybody else not wondering why she didn't fight this hard when they were making the decision? I would like for someone to ask her why didn't she fight this hard then. I would like to know what she thinks about all of the people who didn't vote. Would they not be disenfranchised if the votes now counted. I agree, both states' delegates should count. The bottom line is this – there is no way to seat any of the delegates without disenfranchising some voters. It's sad, but true. Barack Obama is going to secure the Democratic nomination for President. Now, really, is that news to anyone? Yes, the Clintons.

    May 22, 2008 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  6. Brendose, Oceanside, CA

    She won't drop out.......simple as that. She can't......she is representing the millions of women in our workplace who have been told they can't do it, they can't make it.

    Yes, this was a gender issue from the beginning......and women see her as opening the gender doors.....it is just unfortunate that she is NOT the best QUALIFIED candidate to run the US.

    But the truth can't be disguised, mislead, or deceived anymore. It's obvious now she can't win........I just wish she was a better sport about it...........

    She is ruining the Democratic party, and actually closing the doors on potential other women candidates in the future. Who wants to deal with this kind of woman again? A deceptive, kniving, back stabbing, "say anything" politician who will stomp on anyone who goes against her????

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  7. Perry

    She IS the best candidate, but she doesn't have the best chance of winning anymore. This isn't the first time an inferior candidate won...even in recent history (ie: Gore/Bush).

    Talk about hope...I'm not giving up hope that the superdelgates will get some cajones and say they're going to vote for the candidate most likely to beat the republicans in Nov. If they stay in their coma, then I'm voting for McCain.

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  8. Debby

    Obama isn't to that magic number yet so Clinton can go on which isn't being desperate its called an opponent. When all the states are counted and he gets the delagtes needed she will drop out. It sounds like Paterson is going to be another turncoat and used his desperate excuse in doing so.

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  9. WE NEED THE TRUTH

    This is the KEY point in Hillary's argument: She could have done exactly what Patterson did he OBJECTED to the initial vote for the action. What did Hillary do: SHE SIGNED THE LETTER STRIPING FL & MI OF THERE DELAGATES.

    Why is she now going agains what she signed and approved....because this is all about HILLARY.

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  10. Oregon

    Entitlement – that's the essence of her approach to everything. Rules don't matter to her – only her sense of being entitled. Screw that. All the feminist jargon in the world won't intimidate the majority of voters into saying something loud and clear: we don't like her, and we don't want her.

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  11. bill in pa

    It's time for the super delegates to get off the fence and put this primary to bed. The more desperate clinton gets the more the democratic party looks like a bunch of baffoons (sp)

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  12. Scott Glenn in Wa

    I have taught my children that they cannot changes the rules of a game just to please themselves, and they understand that there integrity is at stake (they are 9 and 11 years old). Lets all hold HRC and McCrutch to the same standard for our country's sake.

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  13. Arunanwu

    This is the first time somebody has stated this whole Florida and Michigan correctly. I am an Obama supporter but I will say that playing by the rules has alway worked for everyone, why change it now. All the candidates, from the begining of this primary season, accepted these rules, including the Clintons. Why cry wolf now? Is it because they are losing? Florida and Michigan knew what they were getting into by moving up there primaries. Now they get to pay the prize. Even if Obama doesn't win, I will NEVER vote for the Clintons for any office.

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  14. Independent

    I wish her supporters can see that. If her super delgates see this and how this is destroying the party, perhaps they should start to switch there endorsements so that the Democrats can get on with beating McCain. If not, then the Democrats are doomed to 4 more years of McBush

    May 22, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  15. Trollmaster

    She supported the rules before the primaries, the only reason she wants to change them now is because she's losing. She does not care at all about being fair, all she cares about is herself and grabbing power.

    By the remote chance she does win, she's only weaking herself.

    The Democrats in charge really need to get behind Obama in the next couple of weeks. They can't afford to wait until the convention months down the road to decide who their pick is. Obama needs to focus on the General election so we don't have another destructive Repubilcan president.

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  16. steven

    Sen. Clinton Can't See The Forest Because of The Trees!

    Even supporters of Hillary Clinton are aware that in order to win the nomination, let alone the presidency, she has to overcome the public perception of being driven by cold, calculating ambition.

    She Didn't Have To Overcome Anythig. Has Been a Non-issue, Because She Is White. People Are Still Voting For Her!

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  17. Rico in Arkansas

    IF A BLIND MAN CAN SEE THE WRITING ON TEH WALL WHY CAN'T CLINTON.

    STAY IN TEH RACE ALL YOU WANT, BUT DON'T ASK FOR UNREALISTIC CONCESSIONS.

    ALL IS FAIR UNTIL YOU ARE LOSING.

    I LIKE HILLARY, BUT I KNOW SHE HAS LOST, SO NOW MY FOCUS IS ON GETTING OBAMA THE PRESIDENCY AND THAT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS OF ALL WHO CLAIM TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.

    THERE IS NO WAY A "REAL" DEMOCRAT CAN SUPPORT CLINTON AND MCCAIN'S VIEWS THEY ARE NIGHT AND DAY. IF THEY VOTE MCCAIN THEY WILL BE DOING IT TOTALLY OUT OF SPITE.

    LOSING GRACEFULLY IS A SIGN OF CHARACTER AND WAS TAUGHT IN EVERY POP-WARNER AND LITTLE LEAGUE. CLINTON SUPPORTS NEED TO REMEBER THAT.

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  18. Joe from PA

    I always suspected the Republicans were much smarter than the democrats. This whole debacle just solidifies my theory. I can't wait to see what happens next. All I know for sure is Hillary Clinton is the best player on our team.

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  19. Venus

    Thanks Gov! Maybe you should let her know that she won't have her senate job in NY if she continues with this!

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  20. KatyR

    Please go away Hillary. You had everything going for you: a tremendous lead in the polls, money, big donors, the weight of the Democratic Party behind you, a popular ex-President for a husband, name recognition and no real contender. You blew it and now you are in debt, trying to change the rules, behind in the popular vote, behind in the pledged delegate count, and in danger of losing your legacy. Maybe it is due to PTSD from dodging sniper bullets, but whatever the reason it is time to get out NOW!

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  21. SaveTheDramaFoObamasMama

    too bad obama will get stomped in November.

    No, wait.. its not too bad! Bwahahahaha

    Go Hillary!!!!

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  22. Sara

    What she sees as "strength" and "representative of all women" is actually humiliating many women (not all, but many) and will help fuel continued sexism in this country. Her screaming, name calling and other antics isn't helping (and has driven many people away)

    Desperation – I thought she was the "tough" one? Why not go down with dignity and honor – traits of a true leader.

    May 22, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  23. Fred

    Oh dear – cue the "Judas" screams from Hillary's camp. Patterson's publicly stating that FL & MI delegates should not be seated at all!

    Rules? We don't need no stinking rules!

    Unfortunately for Ms Clinton there are videos on YouTube of her saying that MI and FL would not count ... before she NEEDED them to count to continue hanging on by a thread. No insincerity or hypocrisy to be found in that lady, no siree!

    May 22, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  24. Robyn from Grand Rapids

    Forget Patterson-he inherited his job-–plus he's a closet Obamarite.

    Hillary-please announce your candidacy as an Independent ASAP. There's no way you can lose if you pit Obama against McCain with you picking up all the marbles.

    Hillary08'.

    May 22, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  25. MM

    To Ann - Don't you understand. It doesn't matter whether she thinks she is the best candidate. She has lost. There is not a reasonable way for her to win unless she turns the Democratic party on it's head and ends up destroying it. If, as she says, she wants the best for the country, she needs to drop out now so that there is a chance that we will have a Democrat as a president. If she remains in and stays in all the way to the convention, and ends up getting the nomination - she will not win the general because she will have split the party so horribly and will have turned off the independents.

    May 22, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
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