May 26, 2008
Posted: 06:10 PM ET

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(CNN) – Victor DiMaio, the plaintiff in a refiled lawsuit aimed at forcing the DNC to seat Florida’s delegates to the Democratic convention, has announced that a protest will be held in Tampa, Florida on the eve of the hearing in his case.

The “lawsuit was filed long before the first vote was ever cast or counted,” DiMaio said in a statement released Monday. “How do you ignore the fourth largest state in the nation and millions of Florida voters who exercised their right to vote?,” he added.

The dismissal of Dimaio’s original suit was upheld by a federal appeals court in March but the court stated that the suit could be refiled if the defects it had identified were fixed.

In early April, DiMaio refiled in Tampa federal trial court. The new suit alleges that the DNC discriminated on the basis of race and national origin in violation of federal law. In particular, DiMaio contends that the DNC allowed Nevada and South Carolina to hold their presidential primaries prior to February 5 because of significant minority populations in both states.

A hearing is set for Wednesday in DiMaio’s case. In papers filed with the Tampa federal trial court in preparation for the hearing, the DNC countered that its rule on scheduling primaries does not amount to discrimination on the basis of race or national origin and does not discriminate against any individual voter or against the voters as a whole in any state.

The DNC also said that national political parties have a constitutional right under the First Amendment to determine how delegates are selected to their nominating conventions.

DiMaio’s suit is the third filed against the DNC over its decision to strip Florida of its convention delegates. U.S. Senator Bill Nelson and Rep. Alcee Hastings, both Democrats from Florida, filed a lawsuit that was dismissed in late 2007 and a Florida Democratic state senator filed a suit last week.

The Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC is scheduled to meet May 31 in Washington, D.C. to hear appeals by Florida and Michigan, which was also stripped of its seats at the Democratic convention for holding its primary in violation of the DNC’s rule.

Filed under: Democratic National Convention • Florida


SC Gal   May 27th, 2008 7:50 am ET

Wake up Democrats!

We need to support Hillary Clinton.
Senator Obama is a dream only for the Republican Party.
They want him to be the nominee.

They know that he has no experience, can't close the deal and the states that will take him to the white house are not in his favor.

He is having trouble with so many groups of voters and the Republicans know it.
White Men
Women
Latinos
Older Voters
Jewish voters
Swing State Voters

He can not win without these groups and the Republicans know it.
If Obama becomes the nominee we WILL have another four years of
Republicans. Caucus states and many other states have republicans voting for Obama to make sure he is in the race.

He has no experience, no foreign affair knowledge, problems with his church's philosopy and ties with radical friends such as William Ayers the Domestic terrorist and Louis Farrakhan the Nation of Islam Leader that is his church's idol.

This is not American Idol. We, as Democrats, need to think who can beat McCain.

African Americans and the poor will be the ones that have the most to loose if McCain gets into the White House.

Clinton is the stronger candidate for the Presidency. She wins the states that will make a Democrat president of the United States.
She has 35 years experience. She has been outspent 2 to 3 times by Obama and he is still not closing the deal on the states Democrats need in the general election.

I am asking that all Democrats think about who can win against McCain. It's not Obama. Trust me. President Clinton and Senator Clinton try to tell voters, but instead of listening to their truths, the Obama supporters are making a joke about her trying to stay in.

Obama doesn't have a clue what's going on. The Clintons do.
Trust me. I have seen many elections. Get over Obama and hope he learns from this experience. Support Hillary or the Republicans will win this election. Check the electoral map and McCain has this election in his pocket. Hands down.

Anita   May 26th, 2008 11:29 pm ET

I don't ' feel that we are scared. It is just not right to give her votes when Obama's name was not even on the ballot. I can't understand how anybody can say this is fair. With FL his name was there so, I agree count there votes, even th he did not camgaing there. But MICHIGAN NO WAY. I just don't like the fact that the Clinton's make wrong into right. I am a woman and I use to like Hillary, but her and her husband don't know right from worng. When she lie it is consider as MISPOKE. The news wait on Obamas words like a dog wating for crambs to fall from the table just so they can turn his words into a meaning that would have a totally different meaning then he intended. But with Hillary they clean up quickly. Haillary voted just like obama concerning FL and MI now she need the votes and counting them saying she has more votes then Obama. If she has more with Fl then good for her. JUST DON'T CHEAT or wish somebody did to win. Also, I believe she said just what was in her heart about staying in the race. WISHING THAT SOMETHING BAD HAPPEN TO OBAMA SO SHE CAN WIN.

MI Women 4 Obama!   May 26th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

I know a lot of people in MI that did not vote because it was not supposed to matter. I voted but I voted non-committed because Barack was not on the ballot. I only knew to do that becuase I called Obama's campaign and asked if I was supposed to do a write in or a non-committed. I was told that non-commited were the only one's counted, not write-in's. I did a couple more follow ups and was told the same thing at the state level.

I sure like to be included in November so I say do a 50/50 split or a re-vote. In either case I don't blame Hillary, Barack, or the DNC – MI broke the rules, their the one's to blame.

Now that Hillary is lossing to wants to change all the calculations, include this, exclude that, race, sexism, conspircies, death threats…..jezze…..

The Clinton's are nuts….plain and simple! They both need to be committed to a mental institution!

OBAMA 08 & 12!

[and no Clinton on the ticket either!]

J   May 26th, 2008 11:19 pm ET

Florida Voters no matter what way the May 31 meeting comes out you will find a way to mess up AGAIN. Your votes should not count for what you allowed to happen during the Bush / Gore election. Any candidate better know up front, FLORIDA is anybodys game.

hillary   May 26th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

March if you want to…vote for McCain if you want to. It is certainly your legal right. That of course would be the SAME legal rights that our democracy granted you; the same right that allows for fair and honest elections. That would NOT be a monarchy or dictatorship that allows the rules of an election to be changed to benefit one person over another. That would NOT be a governing body of any kind who allows 2 states preferential treatment over 48 others when those 2 states didn't follow the established and agreed upon rules.

Stay bittter, angry and make excuses for your queen all summer if you want to. I have better plans for my summer than to listen to Hillary or Bill rant on TV about some conspiracy or listen to bitter angry women complain about sexism. I think your queen has done a great disservice to women every where with her actions

Shirley/CA for Obama   May 26th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

This is another reason I hate Hillary. Instead of taking the high road and acting responsible she constantly instigates. There she was last week telling a crowd in Florida "they did nothing wrong". I hope the DNC throws her and that idiot husband out for good. Let them go and join the republicans or start their own party who cares! She has and will always be one anyway. I think her and her "buddy" John Insane would make a good pair and for all I care take her small circle of supporters with her. Good riddance. The DNC has enough problems without having to deal with those low-life Clintons.

Ennis, LA   May 26th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

She knows she can't win. She should just exit gracefully.

YES WE CAN   May 26th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Rules are Rules:

1. Hillary agreed and signed a statement that FL & MI didn't count.
2. Hillary said they don't matter, anyway.
3. Hilary said the race will be over in February.
4. Hillary has run an aweful campaign.
5. Hillary underestimated her opponent.
6. Hillary can't change the rules and move the goal post.
7. Hillary is desperate and will do anything to get FL & MI counted.
8. Hillary now wants to disinfranchise the Caucus Voters.
9. Hillary is a nasty, horrible, dishonest, and untrustworthy, opponent.
10.The lady with the pants suit it's time to start singing. Just Go Home.
11. And the winner is the people of the U.S.A.
YES WE CAN – WHEN WE UNITE.

Mel   May 26th, 2008 11:12 pm ET

Democrats in Florida are like whip cream on the Republicans' cake. While they are busy stirring up resentement within the party the Repubs are quietly stirring the pot – pscyhological warfare. Yes, they say, of course Hillary's voters should be bitter, very very bitter. Of course the Repubs say, and Hillary's bitter voters should vote for Senator John McCain and punish that bad Senator Barack Obama. And if they can't vote for Senator McCain, we'll Hillary's angry, vengeful, bitter voters should stay at home. And "who" wins and who "loses" in this scenario? John McCain and the Republican Party. The Democratic race is manipulated by Rush Limbaugh. FoxNews stirs the pot. Karl Rove, Mike Huckabee, Charlie Crist, they all say revote, recount, prolong, fight Hillary fight. Are any of them going to vote for Senator Clinton? Then why are they her new best friends. Come on, Democrats, smarten up! When Senator Obama becomes the nominee, unite and send Senator McCain into retirement. Yes, you can!

LaTreetha E. Sharpley   May 26th, 2008 11:11 pm ET

I really question Senator Clinton, having the popular vote. What she is doing is counting Florida and Michigan as 100% for her and then not counting at least 4 of the caucas states. If anyone picks and chooses which contest to count you could win anything. It is time that the DNC, step in and have this mess come to an end.

J.P.R   May 26th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

I would like to start by saying i am proud to be an American!I served in the united states army in the Iraq war for which i received two bronze stars for meritorious service,and many other awards.By being Americans we are without a doubt the leaders of the free world!With great power comes great responsibility and that include the words ethics and morales.Both Senator Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama agreed not to campaign in the states of Florida and Michigan,for holding its primary in violation of the DNC’s rule!Now that senator Clinton is loosing the primary she wants to include these states.what message is she trying to send to the American people?if you can't win fairly then cheat?Yes i am a democrat but this is not the conduct of a candidate that should hold the highest office in our country!Rules are put in place for a reason,and at the end of the day when we are stripped of everything that we possess.The only thing that remains is our word!keep your word senator Clinton and bow out gracefully.

Barrack Obama for President in 08!

young obama supporte   May 26th, 2008 11:09 pm ET

Before Hillary didn't care about FL and MI being counted and she even sign a document agreeing to the rules. Now shes concerned with the delegates because she needs them, and she still won't get enough. Her and her supporters are whiners.

JKan   May 26th, 2008 11:09 pm ET

Women who scorn Hillary as lier, etc are non-achievers who are in intense pain for their own misery. Lie is a politician's weapon. Every politician lies.

Vote McCain!

Garth   May 26th, 2008 11:09 pm ET

According to realclearpolitics.com, Obama leads in the Democratic Primary popular vote count by 458,000 votes. This is for those states that played by the rules. When you add in Florida, he is leading by 160,000 votes. Only when you add in Michigan, where he played by the rules and was not on the ballot does Hillary start to gain a lead of 164,000 votes. This doesn't include the Caucus states, which are difficult to count. The reality is Obama is the popular vote leader. Please go to http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
to see for yourself.

Mia   May 26th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

It is quite fitting that the only answer that the Clintons have for losing is that there is a scandal of some sort behind every curtain. They have made the bed that they are sleeping in. I'll give you one hint: the hotter it gets, the worse it smells.

Noclinton   May 26th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

Diana Spencer, please go and read Eric's comment. He explains the issue quite well. Hillary is just peddling hypocrisy under the guise of "making every vote count". On the one hand she claims to lead the popular vote, but only if you conveniently neglect the count the caucus states, and only if you also do not credit Obama for the 40% of Michigan voters who voted for "not Hillary Clinton", and then she tries to talk as if she cares about disenfranchising voters.

Marie in California   May 26th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

After all this prolonged junk, the Democrats totally deserve to lose Florida and Michigan in the November election.

I have friends and family in both states, and they are definitely NOT happy campers because of being disenfranchised and then batted around like ping-pong balls.

McCain will probably carry both Florida and Michigan. Better than Obama.

Comedy Central   May 26th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

This has nothing to do with either of the candidates. No one should ever make a determination that the votes of citizens will not count. Our right to vote is not a carrot…it is a right granted to all of us via our constitution. This whole Florida/Michigan thing was nothing but a political game in which voters were denied something that is guaranteed in our constitution. Shame on the Repubs, the Dems and the candidates who said that they would abide by this foolishness. Everyone should be in the streets screaming about this. If this is allowed, I ask what next will they be taking away from us?

Charles   May 26th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

Here is a statement by Terry McAuliffe when he was head of the DNC when Senator Levin of Michigan threatened to move the Michigan primary ahead of schedule against DNC rules:

"The head of the Democratic National Committee was having it out with Sen. Carl Levin because Michigan wanted to crash the rarefied club of early presidential primary states.

Move your primary too early, Terry McAuliffe warned, and Michigan will lose half its delegates to the 2004 Democratic convention.

"The closest they'll get to Boston will be watching it on television," McAuliffe vowed. "I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules."

Bob Schieffer reminded him of this when McAuliffe was interviewed this past Sunday. McAuliffe did not answer by simply saying that the most the DNC could do is strip half of a delegation from a state. The DNC rules (which McAuliffe drew up) state that the DNC can take all of the delegates.

When will the silliness stop? Only when political power is not important.

Loretta from California   May 26th, 2008 11:04 pm ET

Why have rules?

J.V.Hodgson   May 26th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

Why do Americans always turn to the courts on almost anything, especially when the DNC, Obama and Clinton have said they want the delegates seated somehow. Why not wait until the DNC make thier decision which could only invalidate the lawsuit anyway yet again.
I have in other blogs constantly supported Seating the Michigan and Florida votes as that will if done fairly close this so called race out.
My guess is that at June 3rd Obama would need 40-50 more SD's out of 208 to win on all counts under the Dmocratic Party rules, unless of course you do and HRC which is:-
1) disenfranchise 40% of the michigan electorate and ignore Caucus states.
2) Believe as Bill Cinton does, that the SD's should ignore the voters, becuse he can predict now the outcome of the states democratically in favour of HRC will be won by Hilary. He is again in away disenfrnchising the people s right to vote and so would the SD's id they did that!! What rubbish.
Regards,
Hodgson.

Sarah L, Fayetteville, AR   May 26th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

By the way, even if you count Florida, Hillary is not ahead in the popular vote.

Terry in Fl   May 26th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

As a floridian, I really want to slap NickNas off the face of the map and every other person who keeps disrespecting my state and my right to vote. They are so freaking scared that their golden boy is going to lose this thing that they are directing their anger at us here in Florida. Grow up! We didn't do this, the republicans did. And any of you who call yourselves democrats ought to be ashamed because democracy means that we ALL get a say. As a matter of fact, we had a record turn out for that election and as a matter of fact I specifically remember seeing Obama ads and him giving speeches on television prior to the election.
And as a matter of fact, he won my predominantly black county by 3000 votes so stop saying he didn't have a fair chance here! he GOT BEAT! Thats right. Floridians don't want him. the majority don't anyway and he WON"T win here in November. I will personally wave a Mccain banner wearing a democratic party shirt just to show my dischord. The Good ole boys in the DNC have hamstrung hillary from the beginning and we the voter's of florida will not stand for the corruption in our party! I am disgusted with my party right now and will only vote democratic if Hillary is the nominee. Period.

jm from sc   May 26th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

"How do you ignore the fourth largest state in the nation and millions of Florida voters who exercised their right to vote?"

The real question is, how does the elected officials of the fourth largest state put its citizens in such a position?

This is unreal; let's just broke all laws and rules then file a lawsuit to have the decision to punish us overturned.

The citizens of Florida should have protested against breaking the rules in the first place. This sounds like a win by "any means necessary" effort by the Clinton campaign. It's amazing how people would cheer a such injustice taking place. To change the rules at the end of the game is nothing short of injustice. The superdelegates need to cast their votes behind the front -runner and let Clinton have the delegates of Florida. Since Obama is 206 delegates ahead of her, he will still win.

Hillary would not be ahead if Flordia votes were counted. The only way she would be ahead if they were to count Michigan where Obama was not on the ballot. Which by the way, Hillary was suppose to take her name off, but chose not to in case she fell behind. Or should I say, in the case of times like these.

As far as Bill Clinton talking about the media not respecting his wife, that's the biggest joke in history. They showed more respect for her than he has. where was his respect for his queen when he was staining Monica's dress in the oval office when the records shows Hillary was somewhere in the white house? Maybe he needs to make up to her by trying to have the nomination stolen for her.

Tired of Hillary, Bill and their quest to get back in the white house.

Life28SBK   May 26th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

in this country, if you break the rules u get punished. these two states broke the rules and now that they are being punished the wanna cry like babys when they don't gey there way. they you have Mrs. Clinton co-signing when before when she was up didn't even care that they weren't count. I can't stand fake people.

Jean   May 26th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

Diane Spencer
You say this country is not ready for a black President.
I have 2 sincere questions

Based "totally on skin color" and nothing else what qualifications to be President does a person with white skin have that a person with black skin does not have?

OR What qualifications does a man have that a woman doesn't have?

If it matters I am a white woman.

Smarter than that   May 26th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

Because you did not follow the rules, you should not be seated. Because you did not follow the rules, your votes should not count.
The only way to resolve this if you wanted your votes to count was to hold another vote where all of the state knows when it being held. There were many Florida residents who were confused and many who did not vote because they thought it would not count. Hilary is not asking to have the vote redone. She wants them counted as they were cast when it held out of order. This would not give all of the Florida residents the opportunity to be heard. There are many Obama supporters in Florida. Do not count these votes. November will be here soon enough. Be fair to all Florida residents. Do not make exceptions for people who do not follow procedure. Be fair.

peggyledbetter   May 26th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

I traveled to Florida many times, this is a State who never ever played by the rules!! Everything is done backwards there…..if this State had teeth they would turn green because they lie just as much as Hillary who say she winning the popular VOTES!!!!

Laidetea   May 26th, 2008 10:52 pm ET

DNC and the superdelegates tried to talk with Hillary and reason with her campaign months ago after this incident. Before this happen, Hillary didn't care about the votes in Florida or Michigan because she thought she would be favor to win in Feb 5th. But when Obama won the 11 states victory, she panicked. That's when she realized she made a mistake in not being able to count the FL and MI votes. She agreed not to campaign in FL/MI. She signed documentation. Now she wants to cheat. Well, let DiMaio's case be heard. He's only one person versus 48 states. Those 48 states followed the rules and FL/MI didn't. He will not be able to convince 48 states DNC to reverse their decision. He can't reverse the will of voters in 33 states that Obama has won.

As far as Hillary Clinton claims she being treated…she brought all of this on herself. Diane Spencer you are a supporter for Obama. You should know all to well that Hillary Clinton ran against Obama is if were the GOP. No one told Hillary to make bold statement and discredit her fellow Dems partner Obama. She did that on her own will. She said misleading horrible things about Obama competitor and his supporters. She failed to run a campaign financial and sound. She lost this race…its over and done. I voted for Obama as a true Democrat and if the shoe was on the other foot, I would support and stand by my Democrat nominee no matter what.

Sherri   May 26th, 2008 10:52 pm ET

This mess is very sad for the Democratic party. It is a shameful example for the next generation to observe. You break the rules, scream loud enough in the streets, and get your own way. It is a sad day for democracy. I trust the DNC will not be swayed by dishonorable, dishonest, hyped up nonsense.

Hillary = sniper fire   May 26th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

please post this!

Hillary has become so hated in the past month than ever before, she needs to drop out now. I haven't seen one decent thing come out of her mouth.

Ilona Proud Canadian   May 26th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

ERIC,

It is not rocket science, at that time she thought that she was invincible, now she is losing, so guess what? it is time for flip flopping again!

But Eric, you have missed a most important point. Why are Hillary's Supporters so willing to DISENFRANCHIAS THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT VOTE, BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THE VOTE WAS ILLEGAL?

To me this is the uttermost despicable issue that no one seems to be addressing. These people followed the rules and now THEY ARE BEING PUNISHED IN THE WORST WAY, BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IS FIGHTING FOR THEM.

sophia nyc   May 26th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

Why are they sueing the DNC and not the RC as well?

polly h   May 26th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

I know that this probably won't get posted but I don't understand how peoples votes in florida and michigan may not be counted. Hilliary probably thought that she would win so these two state would have counted the way they voted. She is not going to win the nomination so she wants these votes to be count which they should have. I can't believe that some of Obama's supporters are so rude if they are so sure of him they why give Hilliary so much credit by being so rude. They appear like they are afraid and they have to blame Hilliary. Obama would do the same if he was in Hilliary place. My question is why doesn't the superdelegates give Obama the number he need to win. Then this would be over. Is it because the superdelegates doesn't believe he can deliver the white house. Maybe he should have want to all the states like hilliary did. But what do I know.

Sunny   May 26th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

The political figures are the ones who made the mistake. Don't punish the people of Florida!!! You should be punishing the politicians like the DNC committee and the senators!! The people did nothing wrong except vote!! Don't take the right away from the people unless you want to be dictators!!!

Brian Knoxville, TN   May 26th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

All you Obama fans do understand that, if he gets the nomination, he will need the voters of Florida and MIchigan in order to win the general election, right? He's already worked pretty hard to block any chance for revotes in Florida and Michigan. Shouldn't he be smart enough and want a Democrat to win in the fall enough to be fighting just as hard as Hillary Clinton to get every single one of the votes cast in Florida and MIchigan honored by the Democratic Party, regardless of how reinstating their delegates might affect the outcome of the nomination process?

Or are you saying that, after he blew off West Virginia and Kentucky, he can afford to blow off more key swing states and still win the general election?

Or are you saying that you all would rather see McCain as President than Hillary Clinton?

What is the problem? Honor the votes that were cast in Michigan and Florida.

And, btw, stop disrespecting HIllary and her supporters. First, she has worked hard for way too many years not to deserve your respect. And second, if Obama gets the nomination, he's going to need all the help that he can get from her and from as many of her supporters as possible.

HILLARY CLINTON '08

BJ   May 26th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

Diane Spencer

After reading your comment, I seriously doubt that you voted for Obama. If you have so many doubts now, you had them the. What don't you get? Florida is the reason why George Bush is the current president. This state has been at the crux of voting irregularities for as long as I can remember. The time for Floridians to protest was when their lawmakers were seeking to throw this kink in the election process and vote early. When Hillary Clinton thought she was going to win she was alright with the process and the rule to punish FL and MI. Yes their delegates should be honored, but not used by the Clinton's personal gain. The rules are made to keep order in this process. If Barack Obama was in the same position as Hillary Clinton, I don't believe that all of these people who are screaming and whining in the blog rooms would be saying the same thing. And, for HRC to think that the MI delegates should somehow be delivered to her when Obama's name was not on the ballot is utterly absurd. She is suffering from Traumatic Stress Disorder ( not Post Traumatic Stress Disorder yet). But that too should come soon. And if this were not the Clintons would this matter be given the same amount of attention. Prior to SC I was a Hillary supporter. But after this long process and a look into her character, I am a staunch Obama supporter. And, I sincerely hope that there are millions of voters that will take your place as you straddle the fence on making a choice between what is right and wrong.

Samuel   May 26th, 2008 10:47 pm ET

Dear Reasonable Persons,

Hillary was willing to disenfranchise the voters in FL & MI in the beginning by signing the agreement. Hillary was even recorded saying that the votes would not count, but of course, that was when she was winning. If Hillary were to tell the truth, her fight now is not about the voter, it's about her making history.
I am an Obama supporter. However, if the shoe was on the other foot, I would expect Obama to show some integrity and not complain about something that he initiated. If Hillary wants to stay in the race until the end, thats fine with me, but don't make it seem like it's Obama's fault that this situation is occurring.

Tim   May 26th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Obama 08/12

Biographer   May 26th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Someone has released a copy of Hillary Clinton's bedtime prayer. Here it is:

"Now I lay me down to sleep;
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
Keep me safe through all the drama -
Just let someone shoot Obama!"

Margaret   May 26th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Breanna (or other Hillary supporters planning to vote for McCain, Barr, Nader, etc., if Hillary fails to get the nomination),

Can you rationally explain to me how that would make ANY sense in terms of reversing Bush policies? Your own candidate is saying that she wants all Democrats to unite behind the nominee, whether it is Clinton or Obama. Why do you disagree with your candidate on this point?

YES WE CAN   May 26th, 2008 10:45 pm ET

DNC and SUPER DELEGATES:

mommagirl   May 26th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

Texas woman for Obama: Regardless of how this race is won, you should be ashamed of yourself for NOT identifying the blatant sexism abound in this campaign. Whether she was the best candidate or not, if Hillary was black and the same comments were made about her HAIR, her pantsuits or any other female related or desciptive term, not only would they be screaming sexism at the top of their lungs, they would also be screaming racism from the mountain tops. Sexism affects ALL women and I don't believe for a moment that Obama supports that. The media in this country tore women to shreds in their opinions and comments and set us back 50 years in the comments they made about her. This is not an Obama moment and don't try to denigrate him by making it about Obama vs. Hillary.

jimmy   May 26th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

Texas Whitey for Obama-
You are so dead wrong and obviously mis-informed. This St. Louis Black Man knows for certain that this entire presidential race was a JOKE and not democratic to say the least.

The DNC and the MAD and rabid Obama supporters did everything they could to twist and steal this election. It's a disgrace and it shows the cult style of Obama the LEADER.

You are WRONG – whether your leader ends up winning the presidency or not you are wrong. This will not be forgotten.

McCain '08 for Clinton '12
THE MOVEMENT IS ON… TO STOP THE CHEATERS AND TO TEACH A LESSON THAT YOU CAN'T ROB THE GOOD AMERICANS.

Louisiana Ed   May 26th, 2008 10:43 pm ET

Dear Ms. Spencer, The rules, THE RULES, are that the candidate that receives the MOST DELEGATES wins the nomination. Even if Fla. & Mi. votes are counted as they were cast, Clinton will still be behind in DELEGATES. That makes Obama the WINNER!!! We got stuck with Bush because of the electoral college RULES when Gore won the popular vote. So what is the answer to this problem? Change the RULES!!! In the meantime we have to live by the rules as they hve been written and accepted by BOTH parties. As far as your last statement… this country IS ready for a black President, as opposed to a lying, Back stabbing, do anything, say anything phony in the person of Hillary Clinton!!!

pat   May 26th, 2008 10:43 pm ET

Hillary supporters:

"lose" is a verb. "loser" is a noun. They mean to "lose" (cannot find) or one who lost. Looser means to be less tight than, ie, I "lost" some weight and now my pants are "looser". Get it?

Stop blogging and go to school, or something.

NJ

M.S. Indiana   May 26th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Victor DiMaio, why dont you pay for a real electin and lerts the people voice be heard… Think many more people would have come out to vote if they had know it was for real…

Or is this just a little political hillary spin game ??

And why did she sign a paper not to count FL votes ???

Just Say No to Obama   May 26th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

Heya Texas W/Woman for Obama did you happen to read in the artical that South Carolina and Nevada were allowed to hold their primaries early? Or did the kool-aid you supporters drink make you all blind too? Oh! wait………………………………………. those 2 states benefited Obama seems fair enough yup. Also seems odd why Obama was even in Florida courting votes last week where in his campaign that state doesn't exist! Or as far as I know their votes won't count for the General election.

Elegua   May 26th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

I am not religious or anything but if there is force (s) universe, god, buddha, jesus, jehova, mother earth, father sun, deity, deities or any other power under the sun and covering the universe,

please i implode you, put an end to this mess and please close this race, send the clintos and their rages to do some good for the earth, to plant trees (not to talk to people _ they are toxic, poisonous,)..

please…………… we want to be here past 2012, and we want to be here in a world of peace, honesty, fairness, balance, chances and choices for all of us… not just the queen, king and princess clinton and their elitist circle..
please ………….. let us all come together and send a strong message to the last US dynasty, and tyrants. ..so that they may go away for good…
yes chelsea included..

amen

Susan, Chicagp   May 26th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

three things. first, florida and michigan broke the rules and should suffer the consequences. second, clinton should finish out the primaries because its her political right. but she should stop blaming obama for exploiting her serious blunders. she was originally the frontrunner and has now fallen behind because of mis-management of her campaign. it's insulting to women everywhere that she is now using the gender card to win. third, don't allow the media to turn us (democrats, blacks&whites) against one another. remember, however becomes the president will have a team of advisers to help run the country. this notion that any of these candidates have all the knowledge, experience and judgement necessary to run the country is totally ludacrus.

BJ   May 26th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Does this scare Obama and his supporters? I hope so! This will prove that he is unelectable in November. Which is why his surrogates have been pressuring the supers to nominate him already.

They're worried that the alleged tapes will surface and it will kill his nomination.

Marc - Canada   May 26th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

After watching the HBO movie Recount last night nothing that happens in Florida would surprise me.

It's obvious there are many corrupt and childish political and legal figures in Florida. It's also pretty obvious that Al Gore won Florida. Imagine the past 8 years without Bush – America would be a better and safer and cleaner place to live.

Susan   May 26th, 2008 10:36 pm ET

People in Florida should take their anger out on the legislators of their state who moved the date of the primary. It does sound like the FL GOP ran with it, knowing the consequences, but that is now something that can't be changed. You can address those legislators in your next state elections.

No one can convince me the FL and MI primaries were 'normal'. Knowing their votes weren't going to count has to have had an impact on the electorate. Unless there were important local issues on the ballot, I am not entirely sure I would have voted, and I have never missed an election in my adult life. If it isn't going to count, why bother?

This nomination process is SO DONE. Obama's hands are tied because he can't shake the pitt bull nipping at his heels. The Clintons grow more bizarre by the day and if Hillary doesn't check it, she may no longer be a Senator the next time she is up for election.

Independent-Cuban-American-woman-voter-for-Obama   May 26th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

This whole thing is interesting, because IF it were the other way around and Obama wanted FL and MI counted…….. the Clintons would be yelling "RULES!"……. but since its the Clintons……. well, they are entitled.

Can't believe after her "gaffe" on Friday that the news media has quietly accepted her lame apology. Had it been Sen. Obama, we would still be hearing the gaffe playing over and over.

Charles   May 26th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

I am from Colorado. I changed my registration from Republican to Democrat so that I could participate in the Caucuses held here. I found out afterwards, that because I changed registration after the December 1, 2007 deadline, I could not participate. Those are the rules. While I was not aware of them, those are the rules. I am being disenfranchised? While the issue here is changing registration and not knowing the rules, what makes the Florida and Michigan issue bad is that the members of the Democratic Party knew the rules.

Their elected officials in those states made the decision to disenfranchise the members of the Democratic party in those states, not the campaigns. The campaigns agreed to those rules. Harold Ickes and Terry McAuliffe being amongst the most vocal in proclaiming adherence to them. This is the rule of law and it is very disturbing that Terry McAuliffe now is arguing against the rules as he agreed to them (and I suspect had a hand in drawing them up).

If those delegations are seated, all those who did not vote because they felt their votes did not count are also being disenfranchised. I too will be disenfranchised as I will not be permited to argue for a change of ruling in Colorado that would permit me to cast a vote……I do not hear them arguing for me at all……..

Tim Schmidt   May 26th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

When will the Democrats abide by their own rules? Both Florida and Michigan knew their delegates wouldn't be seated if they went ahead with changing their primary election. Yet both states decided to disregard the DNC rules and change the dates. Now they want their delegates seated anyway? Guess rules aren't always rules if you're a Democrat.

Newly Registered Independent Voter   May 26th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Breanna – at last, the voice of reason. The DNC can make any rule they like, but people in Florida could also vote any way they liked, and, like it or not, they voted for Hillary Clinton. The DNC is afraid to be anything other than PC here – the old politics I think that would be called by Mr. Obama if it didn't work in his favor.

Do people really the Florida voters are meek and docile and are only up in arms now because of Hillary? As much as I think of HC, I don't think she has that much power. Floridians are not idiots, you know, and they have opinions, views, etc. Hillary wouldn't be able to get their attention if they weren't upset already, and for good reason.

The DNC and the super delegates are acting like authoritarian heads of state. They'd fit right in in Iraq. "We know what's best – the people don't know." If that's the way they want it, they can have the Democratic Party. Shame on them for treating Hillary Clinton so badly-clinging to truly dumb set of rules that allow bullies to run caucuses, have different rules for caucuses in different states. What a bunch of creeps. I'll vote for McCain or Nader, I don't care. I'm not voting issues here anymore. I'm voting AGAINST Democrats-AGAINST the DNC and Howard Dean and super delegate system and the caucus in one state, primary in another brainless system. You could have had it all, but you're gutless, just as you were when Gore got walked all over, it's who you are that's driving people away from you. You and your boy wonder can have it.

Gerald F.   May 26th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

If Florida (and Michigan probably) are not counted in by the end of all this. How is that considered a fair, equal, unbiased decision? As well if Senator Obama wins by this method of madness. Can you explain then how refusing over a million Americans' votes can be then called a legit election? Last time I looked, there were still 50 states in the union. NOT 48.

mommagirl   May 26th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

Here's the deal guys: The people of Florida did NOT get a vote in the decision to move the primary forward. It is NOT the VOTERS in Florida you should be bad mouthing. It's the politicians of Florida that made this decision. Most of them Republican. At this point what will it hurt to seat the delegates? I thought Obama was already a shoe-in. Doesn't he want to add the votes he DID get to his popular vote count? Surely he's not afraid he would lose…..or is he? He was on the Florida ballot. He got votes……what's the big deal??

Gregory L. Green   May 26th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

And Diane Spencer you don't speak for everybody else. Just say you are not ready for a black president if thats the case because over 17 million Democrats say you dont know what you are talking about

moderator, where are you?   May 26th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

I don't think it's in the interests of CNN to have individuals posting direct responses to each other. It tends to degrade into bitter argument rather than healthy debate, it becomes personal and often acidic. I would nip that kind of thing in the bud if I were you.

Lisa   May 26th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

If Hilllary had not come out and said that Florida and Michigan did not count .. this would not be a problem.. but this came from " her " own mouth. I just see so much selfishness in Hillary until it scares me. I was for her until I saw her true colors. Listen people in Florida and Michigan… you did not matter until she needed you… now you are all so so very important…. Hilllary does not care about votes being counted … if the roles were reversed … she would disenfranchise the voters so fast… lightening would not beat her to the punch… think before its too late!

matt   May 26th, 2008 10:26 pm ET

clinton isnt causing the riots. her supporters are

WHY YOU ASK

CAUSE THEY SHOULD BE SEATED AND IM FULLY READY TO BACK THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY

ur pathetic

Michigan Voter !!!   May 26th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

Listen To All These People Who have had Their Votes Counted . Saying Michigan And Florida Shouldn't count , Or Have Any Chance Of having Our Votes Counted .
I Say What's Good For One Is Good For All . If Our Votes Don' Count , Yours Shouldn't Either !!! .
That's What I Like About Hillary Clinton Her Core Issues And Beliefs , Includes Everyone , No One Is Left Out She Stands Up For All Americans !!!!
Obama Discriminates , Look At His Health Care plan Leaves 15.000.000 Out , He Blocked The Re Votes Dismissing 2.7 Million Voters !!!!! .
God Bless Hillary She's Fighting For Everyone .

This Michigan Voter Will Never Vote For Obama !!!!!!

Hillary Or , John McCain 2008

We Need A Pro – American President !!!!

Gregory L. Green   May 26th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

Remember Florida, While you are doing everthing she wants, She agreed that your Votes would not count. What's wrong with you all on that end of our country. First you couldn't punch a card and now you don't know when to vote.

Herman in LA   May 26th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

Why is Florida always so dam controversial when it comes to our elections? Why? Haven't you gotten enough of how Bush F us up?

You people are so naive and what they aren't telling you is that the republicans are the ones that screwed you get a load of that. All some of you know is that the black guy did it.

Cox   May 26th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

ALL you Hilllary suppors better lay off the crack. You are getting as screwed up as the Queen herself.
Mr Cox

Jonasthan Swift   May 26th, 2008 10:23 pm ET

So what is this about? Certainly the people of FL and MI should be represented. Enfranchisement is about those people- not necessarily just the people who voted on the day of the primary when the DNC had already said the votes will not count. So who is this DNC that some of you seem to be blaming for this mess? The rules committee that set this was appointed by Terry McAuliffe, Hillary's Clinton's campaign chairman. And this is Barack Obama's fault how? Please try to keep two issues straight if you really care about the voters in FL and MI. First, there will be a decision on May 31 about how to seat the delegations from these states. Second, any decision should not be viewed as a validation of either candidate. This issue has be recast as a matter of camp Clinton being denied votes, rather than the people of FL and MI getting caught in the machinations of their own state legislatures. I am at a loss to understand how Hillary Clinton and her supporters claim victimhood when Hillary was the anointed establishment candidate and she lost the nomination to someone who played the game by the rules, and did so better than she and Bill. From the start she has claimed that this is about competing, and noted at several junctures that taking punches and the "heat in the kitchen" was what it was about. It would seem that the majority of voters saw through this. It was never about the people, or the Democratic Party. It was about winning at any cost. Unfortunately Hillary seems to have lost. More unfortunately, her quest for power may hurt the very principles she claims to represent. My hope is that Obama will seriously consider a woman for the VP spot, but certainly not Hillary Clinton- she is not worthy of the position.

Harry   May 26th, 2008 10:23 pm ET

Wake up Dumb America voting for Obama … Are you people out of your cotton picking minds… !. If obama should lose to McCain have you any idea the damage that would cause in the next four years or worse 8 years ??? If Obama should win… What experience does he have in dealing with the problems to correct the sluggish economy , terroristic threats, not to mention the gasoline & oil problems or the War in Iraq ??? Answer is simple NONE !!! Wake up America !!! Hillary Clinton is the only one that can deal with the problems we are facing… Like one Republican said " I don't know why anyone would want to be President… There will be deficits as far as the eyes can see." Republican goal simple kill the economy so it will be impossible for the next administration to correct should we lose… This would practically guarantee them a win in the next election… Not to mention that the Republicans are pushing Obama and brainwashing the younger voters making them believe he actually has a chance. Think about it !!! And if he pulls it off, the ramifications could be disasterous not only for the Democratic Party but Black politicians in general that may be qualified to run in the future… So' I say Obama would make a great Vice President, Let Hillary set the ground works with a possibility for an Obama presidency in 8 years… This is the only logical choice..
And dumb delegates are losing my respect and their own dignity by attempting to sway the election… Led by of course Sore Losers McGovern & Edwards they should both be run out of politics as neither has shown good judgement, character or a creative mind set to think through the smoke and mirrors and select the right candidate and course to run in this election… God Bless & Save America !!!! Vote Hillary Clinton !!!!

JOJOd   May 26th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

Good lord, Hillary & Bill should be sent away with one-way tickets to Siberia! I'm SOOOOOOO sick of them!!!

Theresa   May 26th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

One of the worst aspects of this campaign has been the contempt, along with distortions and false accusations, expressed in the media for Hillary Clinton, and often for her supporters. As Victor DiMaio said, the "lawsuit was filed long before the first vote was ever cast or counted." Republicans and the Democratic Party officials made the decision as to when Florida would be allowed to vote. Voters had no say in the matter and, of course, any fair person would want their votes to be counted. Voters should not have their right to vote taken away because lawmakers and party officials prefer to disagree rather than protect the voters' rights. If necessary, another vote should be held; but somehow the voters' voices should be heard and counted.

Marie   May 26th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

My two sons were Obama supporters at first but have since changed their minds. I do not know one person who will vote for him again.
The Democratic Party needs to revamp its proceedures for the primaries. Votes from FL and MI are as important as those from IL or OK. In fact, having each states votes count should be a state's right issue.
Senator Hillary Clinton is the better candidate and should stay in the race until the convention. Most people know that Obama has bought the suplerdelegates with a pledge to help in funding their next election. I call that buying an election.

James   May 26th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

Are we hearing ourselves when we speak? Do we have some honesty in our daily lives? What are we teaching the young generations to come. In all fairness, those people supporting Hillary and encouraging her with all these riots, do you see any type of reality and fairness in what you say? She is loosing or has lost and why will you encourage her to take a nomination thats is not hers? She did not run a good campaign. She underestimated Obama and lets just be honest with ourselves. If we cant be honest about this, how will she govern this country in fairness? Is she going to have you all steal things or force her way for America? Please encourage unity and honesty than all this she is a better candidate. If she was a better candidate, she would have won.

Anne   May 26th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

you Clinton voters are really like sheep all following and believing the crap that she and her demented husband have spoon fed you. She agreed not to have the votes counted because Florida where I live broke the rules. Hilary needs to get with the program and realize she has lost (and lost it). Bill is just too busy wondering how many more interns he can get lip service from.

DemocracyNow2008   May 26th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

Obama Florida supporters need to go on the same day as these idiots and tell them where its at .
Bring Obama Signs and tell these idiots that that Florida broke the rules of the Primary .
If they cabn protest to get the courts to side with the Clinton campaign then the Obama supporters in Florida need to come out and say wait a minute not so fast.
The Rules are the Rules The DNC is correct in standing by them .
Obama 08

RB   May 26th, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Listen up for all of you who are confused on the issue of FL and MI. Elected officials from both states, the DNC, and all of the candidates knew that FL and MI would be penalized for moving up their primaries. HILLARY CLINTON didn't give a good you know what about you or your votes because she thought she would "end it" on February 5th. Well, she didn't. Now, she's playing the voters of FL and MI as suckers and fools. She's trying to get you to make idiots of yourselves so that she can work the system. YOU ARE SMARTER THAN THAT, I HOPE. It was not Obama who did this to you. It was not Clinton. So, you shouldn't blame them and you certainly can't blame one and not the other. They went into the game with FL and MI not counting, that's how it should finish. Period. If you want to vote against someone, vote against your politicians who put you in this place. BUT, YOU elected them to represent you. YOU voted for them for whatever reason. YOU have to live with how they represented (or failed to represent) you. The rest of us followed the rules.

Bill   May 26th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

FLORIDA SHOULD OF FOLLOWED THE RULES….PERIOD !

Ree   May 26th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

Obama don't want them seated because he knows they don't want to vote for him. We all don't want to be on the Obama bandwagon

Also, I rather vote for Queen Hillary then someone who has no experience and whose wife is not proud to be American.

You Obama supporters are so hateful and are turning us off of him. I will not be forced to vote for someone just so people don't call me racist or stupid. At least I will go vote and not stay home like you Obama supporters will do if Sen. Clinton runs.

DemocracyNow2008   May 26th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

The Clinton Campaign says Obama 's people are negative yet they will protest yell scream and jump up and down on this blog.
Hillary has lost but they are to blind to follow the rules that were laided down by the DNC before these primaries took place.
Its ok for Hillary's supporters and her campaign to change the rules when they deem it ok .
Its not ok to change the DNC rules at the end of the game.
Hillary agreed with Obama that Florida and Michigan would not count because their states decided to move up the Primary dates ahead of the other states in our union.
Protest during the hearing on Florida but also realize your protest is worthless because its all based on lies and breaking the DNC Rules period.

Murphy   May 26th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

smart President Obama
OBAMA '08

s.positive   May 26th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

This is the reason she lost this normination. God know we cannot have this thing in the white house as president…

Eric   May 26th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

Does anyone know why Hillary told a newspaper back in New Hampshire that she knew the votes in FL and MI wouldn't count because they had violated DNC rules?

Hmmmmm…

Then can someone tell me why she is screaming disenfranchisment in FL and MI yet is looking to give Obama 0% of the vote in Michigan?

Hmmmmm…

Then someone must tell me why Hillary seeks to NOT INCLUDE those who voted in caucus states? Some could argue that is disenfranchisement!

Hmmmmm…

Then could someone tell me why we even talk about popular vote?

Hmmmmm…

Maybe because that's all she has :(

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah   May 26th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

I hope Obama has protection, Clintons my organize a hit on him! These people scare me I hope and pray God protects him.

Jatovi, NC   May 26th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

If you break the rules you should be punished. This was not an issue until Hillary started loosing. I've heard many sports analogies so I will add my own for this situation:

If you step out of bounds and shoot and make a 3 pointer, it does not count. it doesn't matter if it's the begining, middle, or the end of the game the 3 does not count. even if you loose by 1 or 2 you can't just change the rules.

So march, protest, and scream if you have to but just realize you are trying to do something that is wrong and that is bend the rules to give an advantage to someone. Isn't this what we as people/ democrats/ even some republicans should be fighting against; trickle down economy, gas companies, the top 2% tax cuts, credit loan sharks, etc, etc..

Bill - Charlotte   May 26th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Hillary's legacy………….

equator.org   May 26th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

It's a shame that one person can put themselves before their party. Hillary Clinton can rile up many people if she wants to or she can cause millions to coalesce around a candidate that was her rival. Many people blame Nader for Gore's lose and I hope that the same won't happen to Hillary by her own actions.

ALL THE WAY TO THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE   May 26th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Texas W/Woman for Obama. You are an idiot and a hater!!! whoever you are. Enjoy this while it lasts. It will be very interesting to see how you'll be blogging when the republicans take your master to the slaughter house. Our pain will be healing while yours starts. Shouldn't you be attacking McCain at this point – that's what your master has started to do uh uh?????????? OR YOU'VE NOT BEEN INSTRUCTED TO DO SO

CJ   May 26th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

I will be there, I am a Democrat that voted in the primary and I want my vote counted.

Ilona Proud Canadian   May 26th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Texas W/Woman for Obama,

Boy, do I agree with you. I am looking in from the outside, Make no mistake, I am a Barack supporter, and nothing can change that. But I do understand how you feel, I know that there are so many things that I would love to be doing, but I will make the time to continue supporting Barack. I hope that you can too.

Sara   May 26th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Hold on Florida – it will be all over on this coming Saturday. Whether you all like the out come or not! The person you really need to blame is your own darling Governor. McCain's best buddy – good ole Charley!
Republicans figure out a way to hand McBush 3 in Florida – it's 2000 all over again!

Molly   May 26th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Keep Fighting HILLARY!!! The DNC is a FRAUD – COUNT ALL the VOTES!!!!

To the obama group – your comments are a Disgrace to your candidate! So much for the guy of UNITY!

Obama may get the nomination – BUT without the MILLIONS of Hillary supporters he will NEVER win the white house – SO – what exactly has he won????

The DNC has allowed this to happen – so – now they can watch McCain win.

Arkansas woman for Hillary   May 26th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

Florida your vote should count. As well as Michigan. Both states are part of this great USA. Hillary stay the course. You are an inspiration to all women, so keep running until every voter has their vote counted.
I am a Hillary supporter and it is so unfortunate that people have to say ugly things about the candidates in this campaign, that is so uncalled for. I am not a supporter of Obama but I definitely won't say ugly things about him.
Hillary 08

jt the Best Choice!   May 26th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

I can not understand the logic of not counting millions of voters.

I guess the state violated a silly rules but the voters have nothing to do with the rules.

Crazy.

Reminds me of what happened to Gore, they palyed around with rules and he lost the nomination that he should have one.

Count the votes!

Jean   May 26th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

Texas W/Woman for Obama: Some of us are sick of listening to the media and people like you rant and rave about Hillary for often very biased silly reasons. We are very tired of not being able to turn on the news or go to news website without there being some biased rant about Hillary.

Diane Spencer   May 26th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Texas W/Woman for Obama, I think the floridians have all the rights in the earth to protest untill they voice are heard. Like you, their vote also count. I just cannot imagine the DNC ignores this huge issue. I just cannot imagine. You Obama supporter are all scared because you Obama supporters know thay if these votes are counted you Obama supporters wil loose. That is the reason you Obama Supporters lack to understand that floridiaans are also american citizens and they have right to vote and right to choose their own president.

I cannot Imagine President Carter pressure Hillary to step down of this race. This is a crime and unconstitutional. I too voted for Obama, but I deeply regret it. The way the DNC and superdelagtes are treating Hillary is anti-america. This is not what you are saying"Stay Bitter", this is a serious issue. I have no doubt in my mind that if Hillary is selected as the Democrat nominee, in November she will delivery the product, but if Obama is the one I seriously doubt. Unfortunately, this country is not yet ready for a black president. This is the reality.

john   May 26th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

This is clearly an effort fueled by the Bill and Hillary Clinton. They have no interest in democracy. They have no loyalty to their party. They only have an interest in feeding their huge egos. She hasn't been discriminated against or victimized. This was all agreed to by the candidates at the beginning of the process. When this primary began, I didn't dislike the Clintons. I feel different now. I feel they are dishonest to the core and willing to stop at nothing to get back in the White House. She won't get my vote.

Some Thoughts   May 26th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

In actuality, I don't see how the lawsuit is valid. Both political parties can chose candidates however they wish. They could throw names of all registered members of whatever party into a hat and pick one out of it saying, "This person is now our party's candidate for such and such position." All the National Democratic Party has to say is that they make rules on how to select the candidate for president, and that because Florida and Michigan broke the rules, their delegates no longer count. If people living in Florida or Michigan do not like that, the only people they have to blame are the ones who voted to move their state primary up before the date given by their party.

Temitayo from tx   May 26th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

I second that!

NickNas   May 26th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

Clinton is doing her best to cause riots. The people need to wake up!! HILLARY CLINTON AGREED TO SHUT YOU OUT UNTIL SHE WAS FALLING BEHIND!!!

Are people In Florida THIS Stupid???? If so I am moving there to start a new AMWAY Scam … I will be a BILLIONAIRE!!!!!!

Seriously they Blame OBAMA NOT their own POLITICIANS WHO PUT THEM IN THIS POSITION.

The RALLY BEHIND A PERSON WHO AGREED IN WRITING to the set-up in the first place.

Maybe Florida will break off and drift away!!!

(DISCLAIMER) I know all of you there in Florida are NOT falling for this crap but YOU need to go out and slap the Crap out of the dim ones who are… REALLY!

breanna   May 26th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

why are we supposed to forget, or rather ignore, the fact that hillary clinton recieved more votes than obama? you know the votes that are counted? the ones that say "i vote for hillary" or i vote for obama" those are the ones, when added up, cleary show that MORE PEOPLE WANT HILLARY as the nominee than obama. so the dnc, in all of its stupidity, WILL nominate obama. they will do this KNOWING that mccain will beat him badly in the general but they now have no choice. its the fault of the dnc . The millions and millions of those that supported hillary througout it all WILL vote for mccain or the green party candidate or bob barr. that is a promise.

Autney Holmes   May 26th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

The Clinton campaign knows no shame. I live in florida and did not vote because we know the votes would not count.I know people who voted because property taxes and other issues was on the ballot.The clinton campeign signed on to the process accepting the result would not count. Now after all hopes of her winning is gone she is counting on florida and Michigan to giver her a chance to win. She is even counting on an her so called " blue collar " supporters to kill her opponent.That is what she suggested with her comment recently. How can one candidate follow the rules won more states,more deligates,more superdeligates, register more voters,raise more money.It is impossible for the party to give the Hillery the nomination. Now she is questioning the superdeligates. I am sick of the crying .If roles were reversed ,the call for my Obama to drop out would be very loud.The superdeligates need to end this mess and take Mrs Clinton and her supporters out of there mysery.

Kimberly   May 26th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

What a shame, the Democratic party has become so crooked, shoving the Unwanted Obama and his ungrateful wife down our throats. Sorry DNC, McCain is a much better choice than Obama. I guess you get what you deserve in the end!

Allison Marie   May 26th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Wow, you guys must have a lot of comments under moderation!!!

Floridians didin't break any rules, and it's wrong to hold them accountable for the actions of others.

I lived in Oregon in 2000, so I didn't have first hand knowledge of how it feels to have your votes, either not count, or manipulated. Now, in 2008, I know what that is like, and I'm grateful that I wasn't here in 2000, to have this forced upon me twice.

Superdelegates, please make the right choice, Clinton, Obama blocked revotes here, and let me tell you, everyone I talk to is not happy about the whole thing……………..many will stay home, or vote against the party!

Stop the "Boys Club"………….Hillary is the one we need, don't let the GOP, take this from us.

Countless in Florida

Cole   May 26th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

I totally agree with you Texas, it's sad that these people will do anything to win!!!!!!

Oh Please...   May 26th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

Florida has a huge monority populatuon-their called Cubans! We need to stop using race and discrimination as a cause for everything.

hillbilly   May 26th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

how can you say such things about someone who works her heart out for the people. she has always worked for civil rights. she is one person i trust with our lives when she is in the whitehouse.you cannot tell me 1 thing that the stranger obama has done for the people.

NBC   May 26th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

Follow the rules. If the speed limit is 55 and you travel 65, when the when the officer gives you a sitation for speeding, I guess it's your right to go to court. Good luck. I guess anarchy is an option too, not one that follows the rule of law.

Diane Moore   May 26th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

who is going to try to be the next queen ? Billery or Hill? Cant tell who is who anymore . Why on earth is Bill running?Or so it certainly seems. They are both arrogant ,ignorant and think if they keep the whine the poor me , the everone is cheating crap up by being pushy ,that they will win that way. I am saying THEY because Bill seems to be a bit confused. He wants back in the white house as the first lady. Please get rid of these LOSERS. …Enough is enough….

A woman for Obama   May 26th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

I do understand your frustration. However, your state did not follow the rules. Although we have rights as individual we still have rules that we must follow to keep our nation in order. You can still vote in the general election. Don't make an issue out of this, it will be sad if we lose this race (democrats hopeful) due to something like this. Hillary has lost. Although I was for her, I really think she is playing the PITY, VICTIM card. She lost, she thought she was going to win this, she play the game and she lost. Let us come together and get ready for the general.

Democrats 08

Alex   May 26th, 2008 9:51 pm ET

Do no give into Clinton.

Just say NO!

hillbilly   May 26th, 2008 9:51 pm ET

your prissy obama is not going to win the election he has tooo many background noise coming up they wantobamis a joke and for some reason he has divided us dem. divided we fail dont you see. they wanthillary out of the way because they know hillary would win oover mccain anyday.it only makes sense. for them to put her down just to raise obma up. he is a stranger we dont know him.

David, Santa Rosa, CA   May 26th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

OMG! This is SUCH Clinton logic. Filed before the primary or not, the Clintons are behind this thing moving ahead.

The Clintons are shameless. Absolutely shameless!

Tim Raymond   May 26th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

I agree 100% with Texas W/woman. I'm from Michigan/ white/ old. You cannot change the rules in the middle of the game. Hillary "knew" the votes from MI & Fla. would not count & she agreed to them. I didn't vote becaise I "knew" they wouldn't count. Why didn't any one else? She is "such" a lier, can't understand "why" ANYONE would vote for her. She is not mentally stable. Maybe early stages of alzheimers? The DNC needs to stand their ground. I sure wouldn't want this woman to run the country. If fact I think she should be kicked out of the senate. Go home & take you're med's Hillary.

gramma
white/ Obama

Freedom of speech   May 26th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Diddo that!

slinkymalinky   May 26th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Obama is a straw man proped up by the far left media. Clearly we will lose to McCain in November, even in the face of all the Bush failures. We have set ourselves up for another republican president and have no one else to blame but ourselves…, again! Obviously we have proven ourselves more stupid than Bush!!

Dan, TX   May 26th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Why didn't they protest and challenge FL and force it to not move the primary date?

Obama did not get to campaign, if he had, it would have been much closer.

GERALD STROTHER   May 26th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Texas W/Woman for Obama .GERALD FROM TYLER TX WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO OBAMA!!!!!

Paul   May 26th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Florida will learn that they are not as relevant as they think……they broke the rules..trying to manipulate the outcome of the process and got stomped. It does not matter what Florida says or does……live with it.

Lisa F.   May 26th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

When all is said and done, and Hillary is back in NY living it up, you nut jobs who vote for Mccain (along with the rest of the SANE dems) will be left with the spoils (if he wins)

This race isn't about Florida or Michigan. If you want to protest. take it up with your democratic morons who refused to follow the rules. THEY disenfranchised your vote.

She didn't care about Florida or Michigan when she agreed not to count your votes. Thats because in her mind she would have the nomination wrapped up after super Tuesday. Now when she is desperate, and needs your vote she will incite uprisings, protests and other unspeakable inferences she has mouthed in the last few days.

Because he followed the rules, Obama did not campaign in Florida. He was not even on the ballot in Michigan. He deserves to win the nomination. Give him your support and save your time.

Veronica   May 26th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

Well said Texas W/Woman for Obama — I'm with you!

TWO FAMILY SYSTEM   May 26th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

FLORIDA IS THE BAD SEED OF WASHINGTON!!

R. Brown   May 26th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Hillary is acting like a terrorist
First she wants a nuclear option
Then she dreams of something happening to Obama
Now she wants to destroy the party because she can't have the big prize.

She will NEVER be re-elected in NYS! TRUST THAT!

Hillary take your IMPEACHED purple face husband and sit the heck down!

don   May 26th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

i think this is sad,you all in MI and FL are so foolish,you all know this wont work or count,and you all went out and vote.and a lot of people did not go out also, so where is the authority,if the DNC allow them {FL&MI}then what will happen 4 yrs time when other state behave this way. if the DNC allow this, that the end of the DNC,because the will lose all respect from other states.

Mariann Pepitone   May 26th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

Even i f Hillary and Obama agreed to it the voters would protest and there still would be a lawsuit so you can't blame Hillary for defending the voters and wanting MI and FL delegates seated. The governor of FL also was involved. Let's face it, Dean and Reid do not know how to handle the DNC. Dean should not have been elected in the first place because he is one sided. Dean should not have endorsed Obama and should have stayed neutral until a candidate was chosen as the nbominee then endorse that candidate. Whether they like Hillary or not its better to do the right thing within the democrat organization and they didn't play fair. If Hillary was smart and she didn't win the nomination she should declare herself as an independent and put her name on the ballot as such. This is a dog eat dog campaign and Hillary should go for the bone. I am a democrat for Hillary and Hillary should care if she splits the democrats, she was a republican when she was young.

BV   May 26th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

Wouldn't it have been easier to have just followed the rules? Rules that Hillary agreed to in the beginning. I guess some of her experience has taught her that rules are made to be broken…..especially if breaking them works for her.

Robin Wagner from ct   May 26th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

Here we go again NOTTTTTTTTTTT……………………
She knew as well as Flor . The broken the rules , Sorry ,

California W/Woman for Clinton   May 26th, 2008 9:45 pm ET

The DNC created the mess we currently have. They may think they have a "constitutional right" to disenfranchize millions of voters in FL and MI — but they do not have the MORAL right to do so. Texas lady, what Hillary Clinton supporters want is not about some "queen," about sexism, or "bitterness," as you prefer to think it is — who do you think you are?. We happen to believe ours is the best and strongest candidate, just as you do. But more than that, we want the primary process to run its course, with ALL votes and delgates in place — and with ALL Americans having the opportunity for their votes to be counted. The rest is just stupid bickering. And I could say a lot more about your rediculously "annointed" candidate — but I won't.

TWO FAMILY SYSTEM   May 26th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

Throw the race card Hillary, how much are you paying this guy! hey by hook or by crook, florida has a substancial amount of delegates that will give me the nomination. good job Hillary! you scare me madame President! you are calculating, ambitious, power hungry, and conniving. good quality for a president of the united states, let's see where it takes us as a nation. can the face of dishonesty turn the worlds view on America? why doesn't the white house move to florida, hey, they seem to have the last word all the time. i dislike that state so much.

linda canada   May 26th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

why are you letting this woman have her hatred printed but you don't allow any one else to reply to it? it is bad enough that you are onesided on the news but now you only accept people who are against hillary on here?

Illinois Boy   May 26th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has been helping arrange the protest. She is providing buses to take people to the meeting. Why would she throw gas on the fire?

Justice will Prevail   May 26th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

I agree with Texas W/Woman for Obama.

This is going nuts!!! Hilary says Bill clinched his nomination
in June. Yeah, back then crucial California primary was in June.
Florida people voted primarily for property tax not for
Hilary or Obama back then.

Now, with little hope, what Hilary is doing is dvide the people,
divide the party and make more dents for Obama so she can
run in 2012.

HRC, please follow the rules. Bill, I rememeber " I never had
sexual relationship with this lady. Monica Lewinsky"
I don't find them cridible.

Emma   May 26th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

As a Floridian who voted, I have to ask myself: What's more fair– not counting an UNFAIR vote during which thousands of people stayed home, or counting an UNFAIR vote?

Please don't count my vote. You told me it wouldn't count anyway.

Hillary does not speak for me when she cries about counting every vote. I am a woman and I am for Obama, a candidate with integrity.

R Thomas   May 26th, 2008 9:40 pm ET

Amen, and they get more ridiculous every day. In all honest the early voting could have hurt Obama more than it helped as he was not well known and most minorities were voting for Hillary until she and Bill put their feet in their mouths.

yeah right!   May 26th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Throw the race card Hillary, how much are you paying this guy! hey by hook or by crook, florida has a substancial amount of delegates that will give me the nomination. good job Hillary! you scare me madame President! you are calculating, ambitious, power hungry, and conniving. good quality for a president of the united states, let's see where it takes us as a nation. can the face of dishonesty turn the worlds view on America.

bill   May 26th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Floridians…….You dumb democrat legislators, all but one voted in agreement with the Republican's to move your primary date, knowing that it violated the democratic rules….How do you think a case can be made here?

Dave   May 26th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

So much for Sen Clinton's promise to unite the Democratic party after a nominee has been selected. These protests server her own selfish interests at the expense of the Democratic party. She should be judged by her actions alone as her words can never be trusted!

Casey | Sebastopol, CA   May 26th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

You people are acting like you're being told you can't vote in the election come November… it's a primary for a PARTY. Go out and start a party and make your own rules. And hey, elect Hillary.

We all learn in our first year at school that rules are rules… and you don't get to change them in the middle of the game.

Where were you and the Clintons when this lesson was being taught? If you don't like the rules, you say so at the time – and you either get your own game or abide by those rules. This is the thing that the Clintons can't seem to understand.

Maya   May 26th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

This is the result of the incompetence of Howard Dean ,democratic party I promise you I will never vote for you again If you cannot respect the voters of Florida and Michigan.

Bubba   May 26th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

Interesting post above. Couldn't agree more.

Mariann Pepitone   May 26th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

The DNC would not be involved in a lawsuit if they had not told the states of MI an FL how and when to run their primaries. Hillary won the state of MI and should get all her delegates plus no votes for Obama. Obama didn't want the delegates seated because it would increase Hillary's count. The superdelegates are also causing trouble because they are switching to Obama and I believe he wheeled and dealed with them from beind the scenes promising them the world. The governor should control his own state and the DNC should take care of the convention only. Dean and Reid should step down and out. They have made a mess out of this situation and Dean and Reid endorsed Obama that's why they don't want to take care of the voters. I am glad a lawsuit is filed and finally Hillary will get her delegates. What would happen if MI and FL voters did not vote in the general election because of Dean and Reid. Plus the battleground states he cannot win. Obama would lose the election and that's the best thing that could happen to this country.

Jack   May 26th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

I think it is interesting to realize that Howard Dean is punishing Florida and Michigan Democrats for a decision that was made by the Republican controlled legislature and governors of both states. Just another example of how Howard Dean is incapable of controlling the Democratic party. He was a joke as a presidential candidate in 2004 and he is ruining our party now. Let Hillary and Obama continue to play out until every vote has been counted. Didn't we learn out lession as Democratics in 2000 about what happens when we don't allow for every vote to be counted? If we had let every vote be counted in 2000, President Gore would be getting ready to step down in January 2009. What are the Obama people afraid of? Let the process continue until it is over.

Yetunde from Somerset NJ   May 26th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

Simple instruction was given to you: but you disobeyed and now that your candidate of choice is on the losing end, you want the DNC to just pardon your disobedience and seat the delegates? News flash, it doesn't work like that. Your State is not above the law, so shut up and serve your due punishment…By the way, even if you are eventually seated, your C.O.C will not be nominated cos she's not qualified to represent we the people

Frank, Dayton, Ohio   May 26th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

The DNC will win the lawsuit but may well lose the general election unless they can resolve this despicable situation that was caused by the governors and legislatures of Michigan and Florida. They knew the rules and violated them. On the other hand, while the rules were clear, the penalty was too severe. They should have taken the route the Republicans took: half the number of allotted delegates. This way the state's voters are not disenfranchised, but the state is penalized.

Sandra B   May 26th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

The rules were put into play back in 2004 or 06 and every one agreed to those rules. And the thing that bothers me the most is how can we ask our children to honor and obey the rules then have them watch a prominent figure like Hillary Clinton do all she can to break the rules and continue to move the goal post to suit her.

And furthermore, why can't DNC and the SD end this charade. They are trying to treat Hillary like a lady but she is out there acting like a spoiled and entitled brat.

End this ready.

"Obama 08″

Casey | Sebastopol, CA   May 26th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

Try getting out to vote in big enough numbers to elect a DEMOCRAT to the office of Governor of Florida… that's who they should blame for this farce. Once again, the Republicans figured out a way to use Florida to interfere with the election process.

BANANA REPUBLIC AGAIN IN 08   May 26th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

Let's do it fair and square, let's have Florida's delegates split in half that way every one wins. Delegates are seated at the convention and we finally put an end to the insanity. Democrats in Florida should blame themselves for the whole mess. They are naive, poor souls they actually think that Hillary cares about them, she only cares about herself and what is convenient for her at present. Hillary agreed to the rules at the beginning of the election, she should have raised hell back then. Why now? Think Floridians, Think, it is not the hard.

Dr. J   May 26th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

If those delegates are seated, the numbers should be split 50/50. Fair is fair. I think the real issue is with the elected officials who moved the primary up. These rules were laid out long before this election. 50/50 or nothing at all. Stop moving the bar to appease the losing opponent.

Mary In AL   May 26th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

How can there be discrimination when everyone was penalized? This is just a buzz word to get the case heard. Why not file a lawsuit when it happened? How about another lawsuit for breach of contract on the clinton campaign? That would be appropriate. This suit is friviilous, self-serving and without merit.

Mai   May 26th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

If Senator Obama had been a stateman instead of a corrupt politician, this suit would not be necessary. After all, he had TV ads going in Florida for 10 days to get vote but polls showed he was behind. He certainly has not asked for these votes to be counted. He wants to win by default. Count all the votes.

The O   May 26th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

This is truly getting as ugly as hillary's campaign now. Hillary has done what she has set out to do. if not her then no dem will win. in 08

BARACK SEBELIUS 08

BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!!!

Brian Knoxville, TN   May 26th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

How many failures on the part of leaders of the Democratic Paty have led us to this point?

Enough.

Honor every vote in Michigan and Florida.

Seat all the delegates.

Start acting like leaders who know how to lead the people already.

HILLARY CLINTON '08 & '12

Jason from Colorado   May 26th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

HILLARY AGREED TO THESE RULES FROM THE START! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!

Scott L   May 26th, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Meanwhile Iran is developing military capabilities with their nuclear reactors (check news today from IEAE) and Obama wants to sit down and have tea with them unconditionally….that just seems surreal to me.

If you vote for Obama, you undo 100+ years of American history. Is that the change you want? If so, please leave this great and powerful country of ours. Oh, and btw if you bought a hybrid or are going to, be sure you have fun changing that battery in 5 years for $5,000. Tell the speculators to stop pushing up prices and you ease the pain at the pump. Dump your iphones and starbucks as well…

McCAIN THREW MEN OF GOD UNDER THE BUS!   May 26th, 2008 9:29 pm ET

This sounds like something the Clintons had waiting in the wing just in case they needed it, you know Bill has gone through this before in what? Iowa or somewhere. Those Clintons are like Satan, crafty!

They are pulling out all their wild cards now so be prepared for any and all things, even the most insane things. Why the heck would the DNC chose these state because of race when loyally it should not favor Hillary the Democratic expected winner going in, that is? This man just like the Clinton are just wanting to stir up trouble.

The only thing I will give him is that he filed before which is what I have been saying the rest of the "disenfranchised voters" should have done, they all knew ahead of time and if it really meant so much to them they should have protested BEFORE!! Same goes for Hillary, but we all understand her jumping in defense of these she now so loves.
This along with the rest will be THROWN OUT! AS it should be!

NEXT THOUGHT PLEASE,GENERAL ELECTION! MAYBE IF WE JUST IGNORE THE CLINTONS THEY WILL GO AWAY!

ABC   May 26th, 2008 9:29 pm ET

This article doesn't mention Clinton once Texas W/Woman. But since you bring up a particular candidate – Obama, who know something could both suck and blow at the same time.

Barbara Campbell, Asheville, NC   May 26th, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Yep, the Clinton machine is trying to disrupt the DNC Rules Committee hearing just like the Bush/Rove machine tried to disrupt the Florida vote recount – hiring thugs to make a scene.

Susan/PA   May 26th, 2008 9:28 pm ET

What didnt this guy understand…..It has been widely stated that Fl's delegates WILL be seated in a fair fashion.

Why didnt he file against his own legislatures that elected to move the primary up and refused to change the date when DNC gave them ample time to do so??

Well we can only hope for the best for all.

is silly season over with yet???

Mike from Westchester   May 26th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

A "worst case" Florida-Michigan scenario for Obama shows that even the most lopsided settlement will still leave Hillary needing 2/3 of the available Superdelegates and those that would have been awarded to Kucinich and Gravel.

A more likely compromise position would leave Hillary needing 80%.

Any solution that does not change the relative position of the candidates leaves Obama about 10 supers away from the magic number.

I hope the resolution of this issue and the completion of the primaries produces a result that all may be able to accept as fair. We must be able to move on to the GE in a position to prevent a McCain Administration that promises to continue many of Bush's failed policies.

Marge Hibbing Mn   May 26th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Since these votes will give Hillary the lead do you think the DNC will let her have them…heck no…they want the bummer to win. And it is get so sickening I feel like puking whenever I look at him. And it's not his fault. It is the fault of the people pushing him down our throat. He is totaling and absolutely unqualified to be the candidate.

He is smirking, quirking and thinks people will vote for him. In the last six polls he can't beat McCain..and Hillary does ever time. Does he think he will stick that butthole woman from the midwest as a VP and get us to vote NO! NO! HECK NO….

We are going to show the DNC once and for all who are the backbone of this party and we are going to dis solve it and move to the republicans if obummer gets the nod.

Texas W/Woman for Obama   May 26th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

March if you want to…vote for McCain if you want to. It is certainly your legal right. That of course would be the SAME legal rights that our democracy granted you; the same right that allows for fair and honest elections. That would NOT be a monarchy or dictatorship that allows the rules of an election to be changed to benefit one person over another. That would NOT be a governing body of any kind who allows 2 states preferential treatment over 48 others when those 2 states didn't follow the established and agreed upon rules.

Stay bittter, angry and make excuses for your queen all summer if you want to. I have better plans for my summer than to listen to Hillary or Bill rant on TV about some conspiracy or listen to bitter angry women complain about sexism. I think your queen has done a great disservice to women every where with her actions.

Jason, Texas   May 26th, 2008 9:21 pm ET

How much is Hilary paying this guy???

Sarah L, Fayetteville, AR   May 26th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Why on Earth didn't Florida hold its primary on Feb. 5th or later like everyone else? Why should they receive any special treatment?

Hillary Clinton ought to be ashamed of herself for perpetuating this stupid fight. She's an intelligent woman and should know better than to prey off the one-sided ignorance of many of her supporters.

Gohi Simplice   May 26th, 2008 9:17 pm ET

The rule is the rule and no one is allowed to beak it.

Go Obama

Dmitriy   May 26th, 2008 9:16 pm ET

When Florida will go Republican and Democrats will lose there will be no one to blame.

Lisa Salt Lake City, Utah   May 26th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Changing the rules during the 9th inning? As Governor Paterson says, "Desperation".

emmanuel Ray   May 26th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

GO Hillary …..Go Florida

Nia   May 26th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

This lawsuit is a waste of time and tx payers dollars. It would not surprise me if this law firm is in connection with Hill-Billy. The DNC has been saying it's going to seat its delagates for months now. DAH!! The rules are the rules.

Former Hillary supporter   May 26th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

Insane, Hillary wants to advance her own ambition at the expense of the party.

R. Grayson   May 26th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

Hey all you geniuses that are bellyaching over your constitutional right to vote in the primary election:

News flash! You have a constitutional right to vote in the general election. The primary election is a private matter and the DNC can include or exclude anyone they want to.

In most of the states, for example Republicans are excluded from voting in the Democratic primaries. Oh shame! The disenfranchisement of 50 million Republicans! Fellow American citizens stripped of their right to vote in the prime!

It’s a lot of BS of course. The democrats in Michigan and Florida are not losing their constitutional rights any more than the REPUBLICANS in those (and many other) states.

If it’s my club, I get to make the rules. And in the case of primare elections it's the DNC's club and they get to make the rules. Period. Save your crying for the general election. That’s the one that counts.

susie   May 26th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

Dean and the DNC rigged this election from the beginning. Obama will not get my vote for being so deceitful.

Ilona Proud Canadian   May 26th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

"How do you ignore the fourth largest state in the nation, and millions of Florida voters who exercised their right to vote"?

Helloooooooooooooooooooo Hellooooooooooooooooooo

Mr DiMaio, this seems to say, that if this was a smaller state with fewer voters, it would be okay to ignore this issue! Sir I take umbrage with this way of thinking, all states, small or large, should be treated with the same respect.

Furthermore, I am wondering why you do not give the same rights and respect, to those voters who, DID NOT VOTE because they knew that this PRIMARY VOTE WAS ILLEGAL and VOTES WOULD NOT BE COUNTED!

Mr DiMaio, your thinking seems to be very lopsided and illogical.

Chipster   May 26th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

Howard Dean could end up costing Democrats the White House this year. He has allowed some states to move their primaries earlier without any penalty but they happened to be states that were likely to choose Sen. Obama. South Carolina came Obama a huge boost and suddenly everyone was pouncing on Sen. Clinton to drop out of the race. Yet, he wants to penalize FL & MI for moving their primaries. This is so arbitrary and obviously an attempt to promote Obama over Clinton. She has tremendous support and Dean's actions have resulted in a divided Party.

Of course, everyone wants to blame Clinton but this is Dean's doing. Sen. Obama wants to complain because he removed his name from the MI ballot but that was his poor judgment, not her fault. It is completely false that she agreed to remove her name or to penalizing FL & MI while other states were allowed to move their primaries.

Clinton agreed not to campaign in those states and she did not. The accusations that have been made against her are false. Dean and the media have unfair to her, yet she continues to compete with great success. It's such a shame that Dean has undermined the opportunity for victory in 2008.

b   May 26th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

DNC should not even hear them. They knew the rules, knew the consequences and chose to act anyway. Now they should live with the consequences. Crybabies. Also, they shot themselves in the foot – if they played by the rules these would have been decisive states in the primary race. Now, no matter the DNC decision, they cannnot and will not afect the final outcome. Boo hoo!

Paula in WI   May 26th, 2008 9:06 pm ET

I think if their votes get to count it would make a joke of the party.There must be rules.Changing them now would be unfair.If the Clintons can't take the heat they should get out of the kitchen!!The entire campaign has been all about Bill.He can't run,why is he being referenced constantly to get the recognition.If she wants a man's job and a man's pay,SHE should be doing all the work and get it based on her own merit and not herhusband's years.It's time to send away the Clinton dynasty.
For the record I'm white,female and over 50.If the Clintons are allowed to bully and bribe their way back into the White House after all the disgrace they have thrust on the party then I will never again vote democrat.The Clintons have made us all look bad.

Glenn   May 26th, 2008 9:04 pm ET

The fact remains that Florida is a red state voting eleven of the last fourteen national elections for the Republicans. Big "to do" about nothing!

Did-I-Miss-Something-King   May 26th, 2008 9:03 pm ET

…..oh, and an advisor to Senator Clinton's (Harold Ickes) actually voted FOR the Florida and Michigan penalties as a member of the same..and the campaign is now working diligently to re-shape the story/cloud the issue in order to uncover any advantage for the Senator…this makes sense HOW exactly? And the Clinton campaign signed a PLEDGE to adhere to the nominating schedule? Just didn't dawn on them this was an affront to democracy until after the votes…hmm. Funny, that.

Mary   May 26th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

Don't worry Victor, there will be delegates going from your state.

While it shouldn't affect the results as most would understand why. It was meant to be a popularity contest ONLY once the rules were broken.

Kathy   May 26th, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Rules are rules, not only when it suits you; Billary feel this nomination is due to them…I thoughty this was still a democray and not under autocratic ic rulesersad, I thougtht were wasadinreally thindsd this nomination is notyou rttreg

Susan   May 26th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

This is not a civil rights issues. This is crap on the part of the clintons to continue to muddy the waters. Not to mention, that it has been thrown out twice already. How do they intend to skewer the suit to favor Clinton now?

Sheila WA   May 26th, 2008 8:58 pm ET

I wonder who is paying for these lawsuits?

Nikole   May 26th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

They had to pick two states with significant minority populations to counter the predominantly white voters in Iowa and New Hampshire that also have early primaries. It seems discriminatory that those first 2 states would determine a nominee without input from other ethnic groups. Seems like a fair compromise to me.

Liz in SD   May 26th, 2008 8:52 pm ET

Rules are rules. The candidates knew the rules going in–and now they should be changed? How in the world does a candidate know how to manage their campaign in the future if the DNC changes their mind SOLELY BECAUSE CLINTON needs the rules changed to even justify her existence? This is ridiculous!!!

Why I Didn't Vote In The Florida Primary   May 26th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Because the DNC and all of the candidates — including December HIllary — agreed the primary would not count.

How are you gonna count my vote, HIllary. You told me not to vote.

jim t   May 26th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

michigan and florida KNEW that the votes wouldn't count and they

went on ahead and voted anyway, now theyre whining and

complaining, clinton supporters are just a big bunch of babies

GET OVER IT!!!

OBAMA '08 – '16

Anna, SW Missouri   May 26th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

The Clinton supporters that want this election to count "as is" should also remember that it was broadcast in the news media for several months that this election would not count. There is no way that a court would allow an election to be upheld when it is so obvious that to broadcast that your vote won't count and then try to count it is "disenfranchising voters". It will never happen. There were many voters that did not vote because they do not own property in Florida so they did not feel there was any reason to go to the polls. Property owners went because of the issue that was on the ballot. In other words, it shows that the poor are once again disenfranchised!!!!!

cmoore   May 26th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

DNC is robbing Hillary in Florida just like Al Gore got robbed. There's no difference in the current DNC and the Republicans back then.

Lying Runs In The Family   May 26th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
– Bill

Corkscrew Landing. Sniper Fire.
– Hillary

Don't count the votes.
– December Hillary

Count the votes. (Except for the caucus votes.)
– May Hillary

This Is Great!   May 26th, 2008 8:48 pm ET

Only wish I could be at the protest. The DNC may think they have a "constitutional right" to disenfranchise millions of voters — but they do not have the MORAL right!

And when The Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC meets on May 31, it should also "censure" the superdelegates, who were NOT created to be part of the primaries and decide the nomination before all of the voters have had their say, but rather to vote their bloc only at the convention. In fact, it's these rule-breaking superdelegates who have totally messed up the current situation by prematurely injecting their inflated egos into the primary process.

Slowpoke   May 26th, 2008 8:47 pm ET

This lawyer is just trying to get money for himself, it won't do anything.

Generation X   May 26th, 2008 8:46 pm ET

Gee, go figure DiMaio is a Demorcratic polical consultant that is backing HRC…it would of been a news story if he backed Obama.

Faith King   May 26th, 2008 8:46 pm ET

It's absurd. I think we all learned something in grade school about making agreements – and setting the rules ahead of time – and then abiding by the agreed-to rules, regardless of the result. Last time I checked, I think this little nugget would be filed under "How To Be a Grownup"……..

Florida Guy Who Didn't Vote   May 26th, 2008 8:46 pm ET

I think Hillary will make a great president because all she has to do is change the rules anytime they no longer suit her and then find a way to blame it on someone else. This should go over really well, especially in foreign policy.

CLINTON / PINOCCHIO 08

Susan MO   May 26th, 2008 8:45 pm ET

We strongely feel Florida & Michigan should be able to vote. It is not fair to the people of these two states.

Hillary Clinton really brought this to our attention.

We yearly visit FL and the northern states and everyone has always been so nice to us.

We want the people of these two states to get to vote!

That is only fair!

Houston   May 26th, 2008 8:45 pm ET

What about all the people who did not vote that day because they were told their votes would not count?? Will they be disenfranchised??

Shiloh Everett   May 26th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

Cilnton's are behind this-trying to devide the party-rewriting the rules. Supers should move for Obama before May 31. Then ear FL & MI. Clinton can't win. She's misleading people on the math! She is deceiving and divisive. She says she wants to count all the votes-but not any from the caucus states. The caucus were following the rules and they represent more states than FL & MI.

tone-d   May 26th, 2008 8:42 pm ET

I don't think the under-educated(high school or less) really get it. They continue to believe that Mr. Obama is a muslim, unpatriotic,and is responsible for michigan and florida…….Hmmmmm I wonder why. Maybe it's the same reason old hillary supporter believe (mostly women) hillary is the victim. Fact of the matter is that the republicans congress in those states knew well in advance what they were doing. Causing chaos for the Dems that might give them an advantage in the general election. Hillary should continue to run…she has every right…but the Clintons must stop spewing out political poison….that only weakens the whole party and brings shame to our American name across the world. And you under-educated and old ladies…stop listening to your ignorant friends and get half a brain and go out there and learn the facts..

DEMOCRATS UNITED!

Steve From Oregon   May 26th, 2008 8:41 pm ET

Victor, if you and the rest of your brain dead brethren can't figure out it's your state government that screwed you, then you don't deserve to vote. You folks messed everything up in 2000, and now you're trying to repeat it. Just wear a Republican pin and take a rest.

Vote Obama!

Nancy from Orlando   May 26th, 2008 8:41 pm ET

Be careful Obama: take away our Florida votes now and you'll be looking for us in November. And no 1/2 votes either. No way for you to win in November without Florida. If you are unsure, call Al Gore.

Allison Marie   May 26th, 2008 8:41 pm ET

Yes, yes, yes, we need our votes to count…………ALL of them…………no deals, just the votes & delegates.

Thank you,
Uncounted in Florida,
Boycotted by Obama Camp

sf94127   May 26th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

I am not a lawyer but isn't the Democratic party or any other party technically a private group?

I'm beginning to believe major parties are relics of the past. We would have better candidates and more spirited debates if we had 5 or so candidates free of special interests including a major political party.

Bubba   May 26th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

Interesting…

JohnWA   May 26th, 2008 8:38 pm ET

What about the rights of the other states who followed the rules? FL & MI are not more important. They should have waited their turn!

LA   May 26th, 2008 8:37 pm ET

Everyone and their brother knows by now that this is just another distraction that will amount to nothing. Why doesn't CNN?

sf94127   May 26th, 2008 8:37 pm ET

Obama has slighted a number of states (WV, KY, MI, FL) and PR.
He comes across as disingenuous when he cycles back for GE campaigning,

The Dems have not learned the lesson regarding swing states. They are dismissing Hillary but the facts are on her side she is a stronger candidate then McCain in terms of actuall winning the GE.

Gerry   May 26th, 2008 8:35 pm ET

Why is it that Clinton and her surrogates are always playing the race card?

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