May 27, 2008
Posted: 05:55 PM ET

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WASHINGTON (CNN) — It promises to be the highest-profile gathering of Democratic heavyweights until the summer nominating convention – and shaping up to be a harder ticket to come by: this Saturday’s Washington meeting to debate the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations is officially the toughest ticket in town.

The members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – the panel weighing how both states should be represented at the convention in Denver – will meet very publicly, at a hotel site ringed with protestors and satellite trucks. Inside, they’ll be joined by a swarm of political journalists – and a few rank-and-file Democrats. Only about 300 people – including RBC members, press and public — will be allowed inside.

But hundreds of Democrats eager for a front-row seat to history found themselves out of luck today, as the party’s online registration system for the spots available to the public was overwhelmed at 10 a.m. ET, when it opened. All available seats were claimed in about a minute.

(By comparison: the Hannah Montana concert earlier this year at the Verizon Center – granted, a much larger venue – took roughly 12 minutes to sell out.)

Disgruntled Democrats and party officials alike took to the Web, amid complaints from disappointed would-be attendees that they had successfully registered, only to see that confirmation disappear. DNC officials said some had missed out on their chance by moments. “The difference between getting a spot and not was a matter of seconds,” said DNC Internet Director Josh Hendler in a statement quickly posted on the party’s Web site. “We’re sorry we don’t have enough room for everyone who wanted to be there, but we’ll make sure you can see the meeting if you want to.”

In fact, ticket-holders won’t have much of an advantage over disappointed Democrats forced to watch the proceedings via on television or online: they won’t be allowed to speak, or to express their viewpoint non-verbally through signs or banners.

And there may be almost as much news outside the venue as inside the ballroom where delegates meet, as groups backing both candidates have pledged to bring supporters to press their case on RBC members as they arrive.

As the temperature rose on rhetoric surrounding Saturday’s protests, the organizer of one of the pro-Obama rallies planned for that day told CNN Tuesday they were re-dubbing their gathering a “voter registration event” – a nod to party unity – and not a “counter-protest” that could be viewed as an attempt to disrupt the proceedings.

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


Ben   May 27th, 2008 11:34 pm ET

Most of these Hillary supporters have got to be Republicans freelancing on their 'god' Limbaugh's Operation Chaos. Either that or they are plain stupid people.

Jeanne   May 27th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

I hope the DNC will carefully consider that by the time November rolls around, for most Americans the top priorities, rightly so, will be national / homeland security / foreign policy and the economy. With the issues of nuclear proliferation and the possibility of another terrorist attack, as well as the weak economy, on the front burner, we will be looking to someone who is strong on all these issues. Senator McCain is much stronger than Senator Obama on foreign policy, and Senator Obama's economic policies are stronger than McCain's (although half the country does not believe that Senator Obama has the ability to make a difference). However, Senator Clinton is strong on both the foreign and domestic fronts. She will be a stalwart against our enemies and for our allies, while reinstating diplomacy abroad. In addition, she will improve the economy, which will put the U.S. in a stronger position worldwide. This powerhouse combination will strengthen the U.S. and move it forward again. This is the bottom line for the DNC and all Americans. We cannot screw this up again. Hillary Clinton must be the Democratic nominee.

cheryl   May 27th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

I want the DNC, Clinton, & Obama to follow the DNC rules, which indicate that a state that violates the primary date loses only 50% of their original delegates (not 100%). That's what the Republicans did, and that's what the Democrats should do.

But it's all really moot. The nominee is the person who gets the most pledged delegates, and that will be Obama unless something very unexpected happens. The popular vote has NEVER counted in a primary (just as, unfortunately, it doesn't matter in the general). The only way that Clinton can win is to convince the superdelegates to move her way because of the popular vote. As she keeps making this argument, the superdelegates are moving to Obama, knowing full well what the vote count is.

Obama '08

Joe Texas   May 27th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Hillary nor Obama had nothing to do with the elections being moved up, But your talking of millions of people in those two states, Now Hillary has the advantage because she won both states and Obama is saying that those states don't count, well then why spend millions of dollars having elections that don't matter, Obama will lose if he does not make an effort to revote completley or leave the votes like they are, Now MI he was no on the ballot so they should revote to give the candidates the benefit of doubt, Now if Obama say's that everybody new that they wouldn't count than why did over 2.3 million went out to cast there votes, I feel that in the future they need to have people watching the elections because at the end, It's going to hurt everybody, Obama has to much hidden secrets and he will not win the GE Clinton agreed to get those elections paid and he didn't want, what is he afraid of that those states won't vote for him, well at the end alienating all this people will not give him the nomination. Hillary has been a fighter and we will back her up all the way. There is nothing to be confused about people don't trust Obama, with all that has come out of himm Atleast Hillary life is out . Texas loves Hillary, she won the primary and Obama got more deligates, People work they can't be in line to vote for a stupid caucus, she beat him by like 200 thousand votes, Obama can only inspire people with speaches, but when it comes to delivering , he does not do anything, Times were good in the 90's when they were in office, Let's compare a Freshman Senator to a Senior Senator with all the experience. People think Hillary is our only hope…

Charles   May 27th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

And for all to note, the rules that Micheal posted are the ones that McAuliffe used to tell Michigan in '04 that the closest they would get to the convention was the television………

David, Santa Rosa, CA   May 27th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

Well, I've read most of the comments and I find them interesting and humorous. Few have got it right. For the record, FL & MI would NOT be disenfranchised as they get to vote in the GE. That the DNC & RNC hold primary elections is a further move towards democracy. However, both the DNC & RNC could simply pick a name out of a hat (or choose someone independant of the voting process) and then run that candidate as the Dem or Rep nominee. People still get to vote in the GE and from a constitutional perspective nobody has been disenfranchised. In short, the DNC & RNC are doing us a favor by holding primarys and not acting as Kingmakers. Like it or not, it is what it is.

Face it folks. One side or the other is NOT going to be happy. But contrary to what one side claims, there is a very clear majority in terms of popular vote, pledged-delegates, super-delegates, & states won. Popular vote is the question mark, but it is only a question in Sen. Clintons camp. Everyone else totals up all the votes (incl. the votes in caucus states) and sees quite plainly that in terms of counting every vote that's been cast, Sen. Obama is ahead by 500,000 votes or so. I'm not sure what the fru-fru is about this Sat. It won't have any bearing on who will be the nominee. Sen. Obama is the democratic candidate for POTUS.

Accept it, or don't accept it. As for me, I'm ready to have some fun with Sen. McCain, the RNC and all those fat, middle aged, so-called conservatives on the Hill. This is gonna be a hoot!

Brenda from AZ   May 27th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

Before commenting I read all the previous comments. I cannot believe the hate spilling forth. What is wrong with you people? Obama won fair and square because he was nominated by the people, right? Clinton fought hard, but lost. We democrats need to stick together and send a DEMOCRAT to Washington, no matter what. I see the same people leave the same type of messages on this blog-I really think that the one's who state they will vote for McCain -if their Hillary doesn't get the vote -are Republicans who deliberately come into this website to try and sway our votes. If Clinton doesn't get the nomination, you will vote for McCain? Sounds like republican bs. ESPECIALLY, since Hillary has admitted that Senator Obama has similar policies!! And if you are a true democrat AND still vote for McCain, you will have to live with the consequences. You would rather the Iraq war continue because you didn't get your way? You would rather have our poor American soldiers die because you didn't win? Pathetic and so selfish its unbelieveable!!

K in KENTUCKY   May 27th, 2008 11:01 pm ET

THIS IS AMERICA! COUNT ALL THE VOTES! EVERYONE WHO WENT TO THE POLLS IN THE FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN PRIMARIES ,CAST THEIR VOTE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD! LET THE VOTES FALL WHERE THEY MAY. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. " JUST LET THE PEOPLE'S VOICE BE HEARD!" THAT IS DEMOCRACY.

Tristan Alexander   May 27th, 2008 11:00 pm ET

I am more focused on the fact that this event was sold out in one minute! While McCain is having problems selling his tickets… he is has no chance against the Dems. this fall…

Obama 08!
Dem 08!

Simone   May 27th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

The DNC should never have given into Clinton. This is the most unfair thing done to date. Some of the people didn't vote because they knew the vote wouldn't count. Some of the candidates weren't on the ballot…what kind of a decision will the DNC make that will be fair? If they need to come of with something it better be 50/50. This is all because Hillary is determined to win. What a mockery!!up

Bob S.   May 27th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

The DNC picked a small venue to limit the number of people who could attend. The last thing the DNC wants to do is let the general public see, for itself, how biased and UNDEMOCRATIC the self-described Democratic Party is, but, little by little, the Undemocratic Party is revealing itself. For one thing, it's obviously UNDEMOCRATIC if the superdelegates hand the nomination to the person who loses the popular vote, i.e., goes against "the will of the people." Also, it will show itself to be unfair and UNDEMOCRATIC if it ends up treating Florida and Michigan any differently than it treated Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina–all three of which violated the same Rule 11 as Florida and Michigan by moving their caucus/primaries up to earlier dates than the earliest the DNC said they could hold them (Jan. 3 vs. Jan. 14 for Iowa, Jan. 8 vs. Jan. 22 for New Hampshire, and Jan. 26 vs. Jan. 29 for south Carolina). Someone isn't playing fair!

Wayne   May 27th, 2008 10:54 pm ET

Shame on you WWat a Crook !!!!!

Kaci   May 27th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

CNN, you are priceless. You continue to stump for HRC. You won't go anywhere near the story about McCain economic advisor, Phill Gramm and his ties to the mortgage crisis, advising McCain on deregulation of the mortgage industry, all the while lobbying for one of the companies central to this national disgrace. Who's paying you to keep this story off your site?

tj   May 27th, 2008 10:52 pm ET

The DNC made a terrible rule, now they have to fix it. If the FL and MI vote are not allowed to count, then we will have McCain as our president and we may lose a few democrati leaders in the future. The people won't forget.

sjp   May 27th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

kevin you are a fool, sorry but you and others who post the it should have always been counted know nothing of order and rules. this nominating process has cost millions and will cost millions more if hillary keeps it up. think as a democrat what good that kind of money could have been used for. instead democrats have been going nuts trying to bend the rules, wasting money, wasting effort on subjects that don't matter. just how much fossil fuels are fellow dems burning up to be at this joke of a meeting, threatening to riot. ashamed i am, to even include anyone who puts this process ahead of what is important, as a real democrat!

Sunny   May 27th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Do not let the political leader's problems affect the people of Florida and Michigan. The people have the right to be heard and vote. The citizens did not create the problem. The party leaders did!!

Gary in Tucson   May 27th, 2008 10:47 pm ET

People around me (who are very educated, like PhDs) voted for Obama for the primaries. I asked them why they supported BO. They could not give me any making sense answers, but saying "for a change". I know the fact that none of them really did investigations about him and his past. Yes, they were PhDs and they didn't do any research on BO before voting for him. Now most of them realized that it was all hype about him that was created by the media. I am just shaking my head….hope there is anything can fixed the mess created by the media…how sad. Sham on them.

Charlotte   May 27th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Obama-bots running scared. The protest will be outside dummies.

SMART1   May 27th, 2008 10:45 pm ET

What makes you Clintoninuts think tha we Obama supporters will vote for her if she steal's the elction. We just aren't spewing it all over the internet.

So you see the Repulse-licans will win either way.

YEA! we can be as ignorant as you can and who are we hurting our children and grandchildren. I am a women and I am ashamed of how you women look as an example to your children and grandchildren. The lesson you are teaching them is to be a sore loser and make excuses when you lose. Lie if you must!!!!
If Chelsea stays in the political arena I am sure she learned from the best

vern   May 27th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

my comments were automatically erased. Is there a problem. I tried entering twice. Has my email been eliminated from responding to CNN's Blogs?

Crush Rush.   May 27th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Florida can cecede from the union for all I care.

Wayne   May 27th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

Oabma still has to agree with it.

If it is other than 50:50 he should say no way !!

LT for Obama   May 27th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

An Ohio Voter

Please clarify your statement that other states broke the rules. Exactly who are you refering to? MI and FL are the ONLY ones that moved up their primaries and went against the rules. All the others voted according to the calendar that was set up.

Sharon Minnesota

I am so sick of your constant negative remarks. Just once, I would love to see you post something contructive. You don't have to post anything about Obama, just something, just once that is positive. I am beginning to think you are an extremely unhappy person. I just want you to be happy and not so angry all the time. Put a smile on when you get ready to post. Say something nice about your candidate instead of attacking all the time. I ask of this for your sake and for your health.

Edith Arkansas   May 27th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

For those who say the M and F votes should be counted or the voters will be disinfranchised I got good NEW, the voters who voted were told the votes would not count therefore voters who heard that news did not vote for their potential candidates because they thought their vote would not count. Therefore the bitter truth of the matter is those voters who didn't vote for their potential candidate. In fairness those votes should not be counted. What moron would argue with those truthful facts. DNC stick to the rules. That lawsuit is a joke I can tell you what the judge will give opinion for the DNC to follow their own rules . This is a one sided argument Hillary argument is nothing but air to attempt to avoid a lawsuit peterfpaul.com.

Steve   May 27th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

COUNT MY MICHIGAN VOTE!!! This process has been completely disenfranchising to all of the Michigan voters. And splitting the votes "50/50″ is equally disenfranchising- how would you like YOUR state's vote counted that way??? COUNT THE VOTES! STOP DISENFRANCHISING VOTERS! The Obama campaign really is worse than the Republicans! They want to steal this nomination without Florida and Michigan. Let him try. He'll lose, and he'll have our two states to thank!

COUNT MICHIGAN'S VOTE!!!! AS - WE - VOTED !!!! NO "50/50″ BS !!!!

Jake   May 27th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

You can't punish MI and FL voters for what officials decided. Nobody can give away your right to vote. Our country was formed on the idea of no taxation without representation. Maybe FL and MI should refuse to pay all Federal taxes for the next four years.

Marlie:   May 27th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Obama supporters - be very, very careful. She has something up her sleeve. She will pull a rabbit out of a hat. And no one will say anything, even the media - who never, ever correct her.

Susy   May 27th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

This Obama guy wants to show his pride but arrogance. You can't believe this man he'd been telling a lot lies since he started his campaign. His thick lips are his signature.

New Yorker   May 27th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

Independent Voter is right, but you don't have to be so rude.

Vote for McCain; he's tried and true. Has a backbone and knows how/when to use it. We need someone who isn't a coward to lead this country; someone who knows from history that appeasement is bad policy.

Bryan in Michigan   May 27th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

In response to Kevin:
"Shame on all candidates for agreeing to leave out these two states from the start. They should all as democrats have demanded that a solution be found before the campaign started. It is very revealing that a man who talks about change was so casual about the voting rights of millions of people."

…Kevin, please let's not forget that Hillary ALSO stated in February that the final number to reach would be 2026 (which excluded Michigan and Florida). Now she as well wants it changed.

It's not the DNC's fault, it's not Hillary's fault, it's not Barack's fault…it's the fault of the silly politicians in Michigan and Florida that jumped the gun.

susie   May 27th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

Dean is in Obama's back pocket!

New Yorker   May 27th, 2008 10:26 pm ET

You whining democrats need to get spines

Voter   May 27th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

Obama. Please. Isn't this the same bozo who ran up one side of Clinton and down the other because she said something that was inaccurate??? I think so. What his grandfather did before he was born is TOTALLY irrelevant to who and what he is or does or stands for. Truly a CROCK, and this guy WILL LIE AND SAY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED! And I don't hear the Clinton Camp demanding an apology from wunderkind.

Old politics? YUP! Obama is an old school slick POLITICIAN, except he's not very good at it. You've seen one concentration camp, you've seen them all. Right, Barry or Barack or whatever your name is. Don't worry, I remember Reverend Wright's name- your friend you could no more reject than you could reject your own grandmother-until it was no longer convenient.

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!

KJ in TN   May 27th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

Now both candidates agreed that MI and FL weren't going to be in play. Now, since Hillary so desperately needs those delegations, she is pushing for the rule change. Wow! It also is funny to see the Hillary supporters become so bitter at the nomination process after Obama pretty much ran a clean campaign. Some mud was slung around every now and then, but only after he was attacked repeatedly in a Republican like fashion from a fellow Democrat. It is evident to those who do not want to unify the party behind Obama are worst than elitist. They are bigots…those hit sit in churches and bible studies but practice the art of hypocrisy day to day. They would rather see more harm come to the great number of people in this nation than to see an opportunity for change all in the name of what? Skin color, misguided notions of his religion, and familiarity with the works of government? You guys really need to practice what's written in the Good Book.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   May 27th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

The states knew that there would be problem because they were notified of the rules before they moved the date of their primaries. I say let them seat 50% of the normal delegate number and have them split 50/50 between Clinton and Obama. All the rules were known ahead of time; this should not have been a problem for so long.

Edith Arkansas   May 27th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

Tipical Republican style, They set high standards and values for everyone else but they value it less. But everyone get a load of the hot news Bush former spokeman McCelland's book just out tell all about the Bush's Improprities at the Whitehouse. States the Iraq war was unnecessary. Like I fore stated tipical Republicans. These commenter and Hillary supporters who say they will vote for McCAIN if Hillary don't win the nomination are no doubt people who works in her campaign. I can't for the life of me see how anyone would even give a first thought to voting for McCain or any Republican, Look at the economy for the last 71/2 years. You or either filthy rich or insane. They have got to have very low morals to support someone like Hillary. This womwn is a disgrace to America!!!!!. I also think part of her reason for keeping her campaign going because she is attempting to avoid the lawsuit PaulVs Clinton. The Clinton's lawyer got the judge to hold of her deposition until after the General Election, What that tells you. If she gets the Presidency she hopes, then she will use executive priviledge, the Clinton's are pros at getting out of their wrong doing.

Mike   May 27th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

All of you Obama supporters need to get a huge life…

Denise   May 27th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

The more I read about this, this more I get annoyed with Hillary. I respected her and all her hard work. But rules are rules !! She really lost my respect

fantasypolitics   May 27th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

to you folks that say thousands followed some rules and didn't vote, so therefore Florida shouldn't count….. that is just crazy talk. what makes you think that only Obama supporters didn't vote? and what rules are you talking about. No one said we should not vote to follow some rules?? Obama clearly violated the rules by campaigning in Florida in person and with TV ads he ran for two weeks continuously. He voluntarily took his name off the ballot with John Edwards. He is the one that decided that the voters in Michigan don't count for anything when he did that. That was disrespectful to the voters of Michigan. and he kept his name on the ballot in Florida because he thought he might have a chance there, hence that's why he ran all those TV ads there. You guys that are all about rules seem to forget about Obama breaking them at will. And why are you guys so quick to take a person's right to vote away?? What did I do wrong as a voter in Florida, that now you want me treated as a common felon. Oh that's right I voted……????
this whole process has been a sham, and Howard Dean needs to step down. If they want to investigate something, they should look at the caucus system that"s based on peer pressure and bullying, and has little to do with democracy.

DemsV   May 27th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

It's so sad to see all this hatred for a democrat.

I will never vote for Obama but only because I don't like to put someone without experience and that voted present to many times in office. If he could take a desition and vote how can he be president?

MI Women 4 Obama!   May 27th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

SUPERS…PLEASE…..PUT THE PARTY OUT OF THIS MISERY!

CLOSE THIS DEAL WITH ENOUGH SUPERS TO SHUT THE CLINTON'S DOWN.

THE CLINTON'S ARE GOING TO DESTROY THE CHANCES OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO THE WHITEHOUSE.

THAT CRAZY WOMAN AND BILL ARE NOT GOING TO STAND BEHIND THE NOMINEE, BARACK. IT IS JUST ONE MORE OF HER MANY LIES!

THE SUPERS CAN END THIS NOW AND SAVE US ALL!

BARACK OBAMA 08 & 12!

Alice   May 27th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

Do what you want with the seating of the delegates - if you must - BUT DON'T MOVE THE GOALPOSTS ! ! !

Pat   May 27th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

The DNC better come up with some way to get Obama out of this election! Scads of people who had already voted for him prior to learning his true color, will not support him in the general election. Hopefully, the DNC in all their infinate wisdom is aware of this. There are many of us out here, who supported him blindly…not realising all he's done for the past 20 yrs, is work to firmly embed himself in one racial community over another, and done so radically. I'm a bi racial woman, born in the same decade as BO, and I believe he's an extreme racist, and is not to be believed. I will leave the Democratic Party if he's the nominee, and I know MANYYYYYYYYYYY others who feel exactly the same. Hillary Clinton, should run as an Independent. No other Candidate, has her Credentials…Bill, and proven successful past of fixing our Nation, in exactly the condition it is now in. Are they perfect? NO! Are they proven, and capable of fixing our nations current situation? YES! I couldn't even vote for her with him as her VP, much less vice versa! He's the epitomy of lying smooth talking man! That's all he is. He has serious identity issues, and prejudices, that disqualify him from leading the most racially diverse nation on our planet. I don't care what color you are…he's veryyyyyy bad news! I'm furious that I was so gullable, and hoped he was the sheep…not just another wolf. Which is exactly what he's turned out to be…Scarey that this inexperienced racial extreemist might be the nominee of the Party I have supported my entire life. Lou Dobbs here I come!

Cindy   May 27th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

Clinton and her supporters are turning this into a circus… as Rove and Limbaugh are laughing their _sses off.

Ms Clinton… really now? Is this mature? Is this respectable? Is this a good thing for the Women's Movement? I am so ashamed. For the first time in my adult life, I am so ashamed…

No Hillary   May 27th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

1) I don't believe that even seating Florida and Michigan will satisfy Hillary (because she will still be behind).

2) Even after seating FL and MI, I am sure she will find a new reason to create confusion and divide the party… Bill already started the "cover-up" excuse and Hillary is talking about changing the whole DNC primary rules…..Hillary also argues that she should be the nominee because she won the so called "important states in general election"

3) I am sure that her disagreement will continue even beyond primaries and even beyond general election… SO JUST IGNORE HER AND MOVE ON!!!

Abby   May 27th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

The comments from the obama group are a DISGRACE to your candidate - that guy of "UNITY" - nice to see the obama "type"

Obama has blocked FL & MI votes for months now - but - seems he might need them to win the general - so….now what to do?????
He also sent Sharpton down to FL to make sure these votes did NOT count - BUT - was offered a Re-vote - said NO to that also.
He only wants to campaign in states he can WIN - he LOST in both FL & MI - so he does not want to count them - Seems Fair???????

YES WE CAN   May 27th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Barack Obama is going to be one our greatest President's ever. He has integrity, honesty, moral values, and he tells the truth.

The story about Barack's great uncle was true. He was incorrect about the place but corrected it. He is doing the right thing on wanting to help our military going to school when they get out of the service. They don't need to live under a bridge.

McCain isn't the only one that was ever a Veteran. He appears to be a puff of hot air with a big temper and hanging on the coat tails of Bush. Tonight he is sneaking around like nobody knows he is funding with Bush. Please. Remember McCain didn't know who the leaders were standing in Iraq with Senator Lieberman when he had to keep telling McCain on TV that he was confused about the groups of people he was talking about. People do make honest mistakes. Now the Bosnia sniper trip that Hillary talked about was a lie.

The DNC will seat MI and FL 50 -50. For the sake of the USA Hillary needs to bow out gracefully. She has so much to offer apart from Bill - in her own right..

YES WE CAN - WHEN WE UNITE.

Molly   May 27th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

To the obama group : this is a FACT!!!
Forget all that happened Before FL & MI voted. A REVOTE was scheduled and funded for BOTH states - obama BLOCKED IT!!!!!!!

WHY???????????? AND YOU STILL CLAIM HE FOLLOWED THE RULES??????? This was to be a RE-VOTE - a whole NEW primary with campaigns - the DNC agreed, both states agreed, Clinton agreed - obama said NO!!!
So - he gets ZERO Votes!
Obama is a FRAUD & a LIER - Check this out - FACT!

Karen,   May 27th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

It seems to me that mixing up Buchenwald and Auschwitz is easy to do. Both were concentration camps !!!

Gaylon Barrow   May 27th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

IF YOU DON'T SEAT THESE DELEGATES AND POPULAR VOTE AS VOTED THEN COUNT THIS 51-YEAR DEMOCRAT GONE. I will not set by and watch the MEDIA and the DEAN, PELOSI,KENNEDY, KERRY, RICHARDSON, AN OTHER UNWORTHY PEOPLE THAT CALL THEMSELVES DEMOCRATS PUT THE NOMINATION IN THE MOST UNWORTHY HANDS AMERICA HAS EVER SEEN. NOW HE HAS AN UNCLE WHO LIBERATED AUSTIWICH PRISON CAMPS. I THOUGHT THE RUSSIANS DID THAT. I AM SO TIRED OF HIS DECEIT, LYING AND TAKING MONEY FROM GANGSTERS, HIS TERRORIST SUPPORTER WHO HELPED WITH HIS CAMPAIGN TO WIN A IL STATE SNATOR'S SEAT BY DEFAULT. IF YOU AMERICANS DON'T STAND UP AND DENOUCE THIS CANDIDATE THEN YOU GET WHAT YOU DERSERVE BUT COLOR ME GONE. ALL THIS MAN HAS EVER ACOMPLISHED IS A DIVISION IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY THAT WILL NEVER BE FIXED. FROM NOW ON CALL IT THE NAACP PARTY AND BE DONE WITH IT. IT CERTAINLY WILL NOT BE A PARTY OF THE PEOPLE.

Karen   May 27th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

I bet you that it would be a show of ugly face of Clintons. In that sense, it is historic.

Kevin   May 27th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Shame on all candidates for agreeing to leave out these two states from the start. They should all as democrats have demanded that a solution be found before the campaign started. It is very revealing that a man who talks about change was so casual about the voting rights of millions of people.

paul   May 27th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

I SUGGEST ALL YOU CLINTON SUPPORTERS READ THE RULES..

MICHEAL POSTED THEM ABOVE!!

GOOD JOB!

pam Eugene OR   May 27th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Whew , found it!
I was just looking for an open place to respond to Hillary supporters. Please, Hillary supporters we are very sorry for all the mean and nasty things we said about Hillary. It is politics and we got mad. We defended our man really hard. We like Barack and want him as our next POTUS. That does not mean we hate Hillary or that we meant all the rude things we said. We are just really frustrated and want to get on with fighting McShame and have the Dems in control for the next 8 years. Please forgive all the unkind things we said about Hillary in the heat of the moment and join us to save our country and our children. We do not want to lose one more child, son, or daughter, mother or father in Iraq. Please join us and say no to Bush and McSHAME. I know it is late in the game but Please let's not change the rules and let's play together. The goal is defeat the Republicans and save our once great nation: isn't it? VOTE DEMOCRATIC 08

Bryan in Michigan   May 27th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

The rules by the DNC were set. Michigan and Florida decided NOT to play by the rules, but every other state abided by the rules. The penalty for not abiding by the rules was not to count that state's delegates.

Clear. Simple. Everyone knew this before decisions were made.

Now, some want to change the rule. Again.

Why have rules then in the first place?

Nikole   May 27th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

Tim from Ohio and other HRC supporters for McCain—-You are proving Obama's 'bitter' statement to be true. The essence of the statement was that people often vote AGAINST their best interests b/c they are bitter. They vote on issues like guns, religion etc. instead. HRC supporters for McCain are doing just that. They are bitter b/c their candidate lost and voting AGAINST their best interests. So go ahead and vote Mc Cain in office and watch him appoint Supreme Court judges that will over turn Roe vs. Wade, which is literally a slap in the face to HRC and all that she stands for.

Cindy   May 27th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Wow, Clinton supporters dissing Obama's great-uncle now? How low will you go?

Tammy/Indiana   May 27th, 2008 9:40 pm ET

The protest is too late. This should have happened before the DNC decided that the FL/MI votes wouldn't count due to rule breaking. (Hillary agreed to that….doesn't FL/MI realize that?) I feel sorry for FL/MI voters. Everyone is running around crying "every vote should count." ..what happens to those who actually followed the rules and didn't vote? If every vote is to count, then let FL/MI vote now. I swore that when a woman ran for president that I would vote for the first time in my life….instead I am voting for an incredible black man. Hillary brings shame to the female race. If you were to look in a "sexist dictionary" and was looking for what a typical definition of a woman is to a sexist pig…her pic would be there…manipulative, whiner, sore loser, and weak!!!

Tammy/White Female/NW IN
Obama 08

Alex   May 27th, 2008 9:40 pm ET

I would like them to decide once and for all that the Florida voters and Dem leaders had no choice as it was the Republican state government that moved-up the primary date. So they should be counted as they voted.

I am sure that Barack will remain the nominee and that he will lose to McCain. This is what they call poetic justice.

Hillary '12!!!!

Charles   May 27th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

I think the solution is this: seat the two delegations but strip them of superdelegates. The supers were the folks that got the two states in trouble.

The seated delegates need to be split 50/50 as there were a number of rank and file members who did not vote. Additionally, this recognizes that no candidate campaigned there. It is possible, however unlikely, that Dennis Kucinich, Christopher Dodd or another candidate could have won there if they had campaigned there. So it is possible that splitting the delegations according to an even weighting is the way to go…….

It is totally spurious for any one candidate any victory in either state. To do so is to also validate all those 'elections' that were held in the former Soviet Union……….

Whackos and liberals   May 27th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

Obambus is an idiot. He will lie and say anything to get elected. Don't trust this guy who was raised in a Muslim country.

For his information lead elements of the 6th Armored Division
Liberated Buchenwald.

What kind of whacko is Obambus? First he says he loves his preacher now he says he doesn't. Hey you can't have it both ways. what a whacko. Be careful of his cotton candy fluff speeches.

No one will remember what he says, but no one will forget what he will do to our great country,.

Independent Voter   May 27th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

Obama got his concentration camps mixed up. That's what happens when you're trying to shed some of your grandfather's light on YOU to make up for a total lack of service to your country. Or was there sniper fire when Gramps was describing the event, and Barry couldn't hear what he said???

What goes around, comes around.

What an arrogant self serving jerk he is!

Cesar Chavez - si se puede   May 27th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

Just do the right thing and resolve this equitably and let all parties respect the results. It will not be elegant or satisfactory for anyone.

Nikole   May 27th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

I have family in FL, none of them voted b/c they paid attention to the news and knew that thier vote would not count. In MI Obama wasn't on the ballot. Therefore, they should split these votes 50/50.

Indiana Bob   May 27th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

I am tired of people saying Hillary is breaking the rules. The only 'rules' that the candidates agreed to was not to campaign in Florida or Michigan. Hillary didn't campaign in either state, Obama ran TV ads in Florida (so who broke the rules). The decision to penalize the states was made by the DNC, not the candidates. Obama is just like Bush; let's not count all the votes, we should just quit counting when he is ahead. And he wants to be a beacon for democracy!! Oh thats right, his supporters seem to think they are voting for American Idol, not the President of the United States of America.

Ken   May 27th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

I hate to tell everyone that there is really no hurry in this matter. Neither Barack or Hillary will have enough votes to become the nominee, plus the fact that the "Super Delegates" votes will not count until they go the the convention in August.

And then, it could possibly happen that even those "Super Delegates" said that they are for Obama, they could change their votes and vot for Hillary instead. And I must say that I for one would love to see that happen.

Barack Hussein Obama thinks of himself as the winner, while in fact, he has NOT won yet! Barack Hussein Obama will not be able to beat McCain in November, while Hillary Clinton is able to beat John McCain in November, and become our next President.

Tim from Ohio   May 27th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Obama is a crook, thief, thug, liar, heretic, communist…

I will not vote for Obama…

I will either write in Hillary or vote for McCain…

Hillary in 08′

Tyler from Colorado Springs   May 27th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

We need some Obama volunteers to go over to Iraq with him for the formal surrender. Anyone who is a woos/appeaser may apply but that
could include all the Obamanians.

A.M.   May 27th, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Vote for what and for who, when no one in Clinton camp respects the 'Rules' and perhaps no respect of 'Law'. Did we forget the history of 'Clinton'?

Pathetic, sad and un-real.

A.M. Saqib
Houston, Texas

Attorney in Florida   May 27th, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Yeah….good way to phrase it "voter registration rally", not a "counter-protest". Don't be fooled people…..it is a COUNTER-PROTEST. The Obama campaign is nothing but cunning and deceitful!

WWhat a crock   May 27th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

I just don't trust Obamba; he will say anything to win at any cost. He lies and his supporters cover it up.

I wonder what job his uncle had in the magnificent rescue? It would be interesting for some one who has intelligence to research.

I don't believe he was an officer but what was he doing over there?

Jus asking

lugina   May 27th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

BUSH—OBAMA 08!!!!

Edana Popp   May 27th, 2008 9:18 pm ET

I got a ticket, and I'll be holding a Count Every Vote sign! This is democracy and freedom of speech at its finest! What are all you naysayers afraid of? Let's take it to the convention floor, and years from now we'll be reading our grandchildren's history books, saying, "I was there." History is messy. Feel lucky you're in it!

KE   May 27th, 2008 9:17 pm ET

People who never run for president have more advice to give to Hillary Clinton.
Next presidencial candidates should think twice not to pick strategists who are telling Hillary Clinton to give it up at this point.

Michigan and Florida will be counted.

Carol   May 27th, 2008 9:15 pm ET

If they can't even run the primaries how can they run the country? What a bunch of bozos.

TT   May 27th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

In casual golf, there is a place for a "mulligan"—a second chance to hit a better shot. Mulligans have no place in professional golf. The contest for the democratic presidential nomination is not a friendly game of weekend golf. No mulligans for team Clinton!

Michael   May 27th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

READ THE RULES:
1. Nothing in these rules shall be interpreted to encourage or permit states with party registration and enrollment, or states that limit participation to Democrats only, to amend their systems to open participation to members of other parties.

2No meetings, caucuses, conventions or primaries which constitute the first determining stage in the presidential nomination process (the date of the primary in primary states, and the date of the first tier caucus in caucus states) may be held prior to the first Tuesday in February or after the second Tuesday in June in the calendar year of the national convention. Provided, however, that the Iowa precinct caucuses may be held no earlier than 22 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the Nevada first-tier caucuses may be held no earlier than 17 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the New Hampshire primary may be held no earlier than 14 days before the first Tuesday in February; and that the South Carolina primary may be held no earlier than 7 days before the first Tuesday in February. In no instance may a state which scheduled delegate selection procedures on or between the first Tuesday in February and the second Tuesday in June 1984 move out of compliance with the provisions of this rule.

3. Violation of timing: In the event the Delegate Selection Plan of a state party provides or permits a meeting, caucus, convention or primary which constitutes the first determining stage in the presidential nominating process to be held prior to or after the dates for the state as provided in Rule 11 of these rules, or in the event a state holds such a meeting, caucus, convention or primary prior to or after such dates, the number of pledged delegates elected in each category allocated to the state pursuant to the Call for the National Convention shall be reduced by
fifty (50%) percent, and the number of alternates shall also be reduced by fifty (50%) percent. In addition, none of the members of the Democratic National Committee and no other unpledged delegate allocated pursuant to Rule 8.A. from that state shall be permitted to vote as members of the state’s delegation. In determining the actual number of delegates or alternates by which the state’s delegation is to be reduced, any fraction below .5 shall be rounded down to the nearest whole number, and any fraction of .5 or greater shall be rounded up to the next nearest whole number.

These are some of the rules that apply to the DNC, I suggest everyone download the rules and read them so they don't make statements that are not based in fact. Rules are rules accept in America where if we don't like the rules all we have to do is cry like a bunch of babies until we get our way. The Democratic Party has turned into a bunch of spoiled children who cry every time they don't get what they want, when they want and Bill and Hillary Clinton are the biggest cry babies of them all.

Trasa   May 27th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

Just wanted to add, I do agree that they should be seated, but in a fair way since the primaries weren't done legitimately…

Trasa   May 27th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

CNN, post this for once!

SIMPLE, those votes should not be counted as is. I just want to say to the Clinton supporters, how is it a fair primary when we truly don't know if Clinton would have won both states..Obama wasn't on the ticket in Michigan and thousands of Floridians didn't come out to vote knowing the delegates were going to be stripped, so what do you say to those voters who didn't have there voices heard… You guys claim you agree with Hillary about every votes counts, but there were many who didn't get to be heard.. True, maybe in the end she might would have one, but will never know… And stop blaming Obama for the mistake that the elected officials of those states made…You guys starting to sound like Bill that there's a conspiracy and cover up….Please! don't be riduclous. And while your at it, I guess to keep from having bad feelings with those states, the caucus states will be disenfranchised which is more of them, which by the way Hillary would need.

OH, if I get one more person speaking on behalf of me saying Americans want Hillary, CUT THE CRAP, cause I don't want her…I almost was going to stomach the hard feelings I had against her and cast my vote in her direction if she became nominated, but know, FORGET IT!

Melinda   May 27th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

This race is so fixed. You, DNS, thinks that people fool.
A lot of people worry that Hillary destroy Democratic party. DNS destroyed yourself already. And please do not blame Hillary for everything. Your empty candidate Obama - is nothing compare to Hillary Clinton. Nothing.
DNC, you behave so agly during this comaign. You deserve to be destroyed. It is time to end DNC because it provides no DEMOCRACY
anymore.

Trasa   May 27th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

SIMPLE, those votes should not be counted as is. I just want to say to the Clinton supporters, how is it a fair primary when we truly don't know if Clinton would have won both states..Obama wasn't on the ticket in Michigan and thousands of Floridians didn't come out to vote knowing the delegates were going to be stripped, so what do you say to those voters who didn't have there voices heard… You guys claim you agree with Hillary about every votes counts, but there were many who didn't get to be heard.. True, maybe in the end she might would have one, but will never know… And stop blaming Obama for the mistake that the elected officials of those states made…You guys starting to sound like Bill that there's a conspiracy and cover up….Please! don't be riduclous. And while your at it, I guess to keep from having bad feelings with those states, the caucus states will be disenfranchised which is more of them, which by the way Hillary would need.

OH, if I get one more person speaking on behalf of me saying Americans want Hillary, CUT THE CRAP, cause I don't want her…I almost was going to stomach the hard feelings I had against her and cast my vote in her direction if she became nominated, but know, FORGET IT!

rosie   May 27th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

why are comments closed on the article about Obama "misspeaking and confusing who his uncle was and what torture camp he liberated…….If it was Hillary who "misspoke", the comments would go on and on for days…..

BO needs some seasoning before he is able to handle the flack the Repubs are going to throw his way. Too bad he is not anywhere near as tough as Hillary.

ABrown   May 27th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

What about the people who followed the rules in Florida and Michigan and did not vote? Why is the country still allowing the Clintons to change the rules to benefit them? I truly believe Hillary is doing whatever she can to make sure Obama does not win in Novemeber so she can turn around and run again in 4 years.

SheWill   May 27th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

You can't change the rules late in the game..Their decision on Florida and Michigan should be reached after we have Obama as the nominee..Barack played by the rules,he followed the rules and therefore he won this primary and anything short of that is stealing and cheating.I'm so tired of people saying he can't beat McCain and for those who say that i'll ask How do you know he can't?Remember Hillary and her supporters said he couldn't beat her either.Google Hillary's comments she said she would lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday so i'll ask again How do you know he can't beat McCain because remember he wasn't suppose to beat Hillary
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2 words on why he wont beat McCain. African Americans. The same 2 words that bullied him into people voting for him. And he did not play by the rules. He hired an attorney to be sure Michigan voters could not revote. He ran ads in Florida when he was not suppose to be campaigning. There is even a video out there on You Tube of a marching band and parade in one Florida city where they announced his name and he came up to speak. Thats called campaigning people! He broke all the rules because he knows Mich and Fla will put Hillary over the top. Wake up and smell the coffee. Hes not your man. He is as crooked as they come.

Twin Otter   May 27th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

Interesting that this meeting is taking place on the heels of the so-called docu-drama Recount. The movie of course depicts the mean old Republicans disenfranchising hundreds of voters of Florida. Now, back to the real world, we see the Democrats disenfranchising millions of voters in the same state, and in Michigan. Life imitatiing art I guess. And, who are the real champions of disenfranchisement.

simpson   May 27th, 2008 9:08 pm ET

HRC said yesterday that she should get the pledged delegates representing the 55% of Michigan voters that voted for her and should get more than 50% of the Michigan voters that did not vote for her and voted "Uncommitted".

This is what she means by counting every vote. Every vote should be counted and the votes for her should be counted twice!

Wen   May 27th, 2008 9:07 pm ET

The Clintons must be made to understand in no mistakable terms that this country does not belong to them, and indeed, the democratic party does not belong to them.

We must remember the indiscretion of Bill with Lewinsky that made the Democrats lost the presidency to the Republicans. In some way the Clintons contributed to this present Republican mess: iraq war, brink of recession, gas prices, among others.

We as a country are ready to move forward. The people are ready for change. The Clintons should not hold us (via the DNC) to ransom for a campaign they failed in and lost so obviously.

The world is watching!!!

Hillary NO VP /no pres.   May 27th, 2008 9:06 pm ET

This is unbelieveable and they better not give MS. CHANGE THE RULES McClinton more than half.
What kind of president would she be ?people would not be able to believe one word out of her pie hole.
If the delegates would give Obama their backing today it would end all this nonsence.
This was changed in Florida by a Republican to begin with they knew what they were doing to the DNC .
I would like to see Hillary 3 in the rear view mirror .

Kathy   May 27th, 2008 9:05 pm ET

My question to the “under 30 generation” who for the first time in their lives “found their voice”… in Obama…..where have you been? Why not until now have you not exercised your right to vote? You place your faith in a man who has not been tested, pocesses little record of accomplishment and little to no experience in international or economic matters. Go back and check the record…Obama released his platform weeks after Clinton released her Solutions For America agenda. His were extremely similar to hers. The Clinton campaign reacted to the release of the Obama platform by saying…”at least his is not that different than ours” So I ask you, what does this man stand for when he copies what it convenient to his campaign? For shame!

Life to you folks seems rather simple. I suppose in your minds, Obama offers a sense of entitlement both for himself and his supporters — your/his time has come. The simple fact is that if you look past his rhetoric there is little substance. You buy into his chant of “change..yes we can” with little thought or experience as to the complexities involved in bringing about change. Some of you worship him like he is a “messiah”, here to save us from ourselves. He may in fact be anointed the nominee, and you like him, will think nothing can stop you. The simple and relevant truth is……. One can fool some of the people some of the time…but not all the people…. all the time.

McCain may represent a party for which I may not find a lot of common ground however, I respect his honor, integrity and sacrifice to our country, the scars of which he still bears as a testament to his courage…. And I will place my hope for change in him.—he is not Bush… He has earned my respect and most likely my vote and the votes of millions of others who feel the same way.

For the sake of our country and that of our future….thank god there are more of us than you, and we will not allow this fantasy to continue past Nov. DNC party chairs and uncommitted superdelgates…..you either stop this false prophet now….or we will do so with our votes come Nov.

And to all those, Obama supporters, who have previously responded to my comment, or wish to now I say this…you are being fooled by the joker himself-Obama. Study up on your American history….this man will put up a pretty decent fight, however in the end, he will join the ranks of Kerry and other far-left liberals….bitter and clinging to his religion wondering why he came so far only to have the door slam shut on him.

Maria   May 27th, 2008 9:03 pm ET

I hope CNN covers this live! I would love to see what Clinton's excuse is for not following the rules with Florida and Michigan. Remember when she said that everyone knows those votes don't count. I can't wait to see what web of lies she spins this time. That's what the Clintons do best SPIN.

aa   May 27th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

they should seat the delegates according to the voting in primaries…Hillary took a beating this weekend over nothing…out of proportion blown statement by the douche bags on msnbc

Melinda   May 27th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

Bill Brown May 27th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

Let's face it: curiosity killed the cat and likely the nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Juan Carlos(Vegas)   May 27th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

I like the comparison lol Hannah Montana lol

Rick Medina,OH   May 27th, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Sen. Clinton took some 'flak' over her RFK remarks, but her point is well taken that a few primary seasons (in the past 50 years) have extended into June. But, more often, a 'front-runner' has emerged fairly early.

The Michigan-Florida fiasco is not 'about' dis-enfranchisement of the voters; their dis-enfranchisement is a 'consequence' of efforts by many states' delegations to remain 'relevant.' Let's not forget how 'expanded' Super Tuesday became this year, or the fact that the prima donnas from New Hampshire actually considered moving their primary date back to December of 2007.

It is likely that the DNC Rules Committee will find (after great rancor) a solution to MI-FL no one likes, but most grumblingly accept. But, they will leave to another day finding a solution to the real issue — finding a way to make all voters relevant.

Melinda   May 27th, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Deanna - Charlotte, NC

May 23rd, 2008 3:01 pm ET
Some of you ought to be more respectful of Senator Clinton. She has proven herself to be a tireless patriot. I have always believed her motivation for getting into the race was because she cares about people whom the Bush administration wishes would disappear — people who depend on their country to be a democracy and not a dictatorship. This race will go down in history as proof that our country has made strides for equality for blacks BUT we remain without doubt a misogynistic nation.

william   May 27th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

The DNC needs to understand one thing. That over half of Hillary supporters will not support Obama. I will register as a Republican and Vote for Mccain. DNC think long and hard about what your doing to the party.

Melinda   May 27th, 2008 8:58 pm ET

t's a shame that you felt you had to explain an inDemocrats forgot about Women May 25th, 2008 12:17 pm ET
Why does a woman always have to justify herself?! Historically campaigns have run until a nominee has the requisite delegates (often up to the convention). The Democratic Party and Obama should be ashamed of themselves for trying to push aside the first woman candidate (who currently leads the popular vote).
Shame on democrats for this double standard. I thought the Democratic Party was the party that favored women's rights and respected women - clearly this primary season has shown the sexism that still controls the Democratic establishment. The majority of voters have cast their ballots for Sen. Clinton yet the superdelegates are being blinded by the media and Obama's slick political spin machine.
I will write in Hillary's name in November if she is not the nominee.

Cody   May 27th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

There are so many people that feel that Clinton's decision to stay in the race is divisive and damaging and will cause the republicans to win the election in November. When really, it is this issue of Florida and Michigan that could potentially undermine the election.

The DNC should never have stripped delegates from these states and brokered an agreement between the candidates to not campaign. That decision effectively undermines the whole democratic process! They should have punished the ones who actually screwed up by relieving them of their responsiblities as state party leaders. They should not disenfranchise their own voters!

I do not envy the ones who have to decide where to go from here. But some advise to the ones with that burden: Think of the voters and think of November. Whatever decision you make, remember that those voters deserve a say in their party's nomination and will lose faith in the democratic party if it turns it's back on them. I think the best thing to do is force a revote and allow the candidates to campaign. Or second best, let the vote stand as is.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an Obama supporter. And I know that it will be an uphill battle for him either way. But if the democrats even want to stand a chance in November, they need to focus on making the voters happy. Yes, these are big states and they are swing states. But even if they were small states, red or blue, they will be affected by the outcome of this election just like anyone else. So let's give them the representation that they deserve.

Frances   May 27th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

The DNC will seat the delegates but will not move the goal post. It won't be worth the risk of moving the goal posts and thereafter requiring a showdown on the convention floor in Denver. Hillary wants the fight but the DNC won't allow it. Watch what I say. McSame has already started to run ads for the presidency. This country will suffer dearly if the democrats won't be able to run a presidential ad until after the convention.

DNC Meeting - End result. Hillary will get a few more delegates than Barack. And just enough where Florida and Michigan won't feel llike they are left out of the voting process.

Obama will get the nomination the middle of June and Hillary can go back to her Senate seat.!! Finally!!

taylor richmond virginia   May 27th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

what are the odds that they find a way to screw things up?

Melinda   May 27th, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Brian Knoxville, TN May 25th, 2008 12:24 pm ET
Axelrod,
You're right, this isn't American Idol. If you have only said that five months ago, maybe most of the people who voted for Obama would have understood that they were voting for the Party's nominee rather than for a popularity contest.
And you're right about the party having rules. The process doesn't end on June 3 according to the rules. It continues until the convention in August. Decades ago, the Party gave about one quarter of the delegate votes to Party leaders (the so-called superdelegates).
You're not fooling anyone when all your statements to end the process as early as possible, while your lightweight candidate is ahead IN ALL BUT THE POPULAR VOTE

bigg dog   May 27th, 2008 8:54 pm ET

you people aire my statement longview texas bigg dog aka big O..

Alicia   May 27th, 2008 8:54 pm ET

I hope the goalpost does not get moved. Someone has to console the whining child who is not getting her way. I used to respect Senator Clinton. I still will if after this, she will shut up and take it like a big girl.

Amazing when she was frontrunner, WAS, she could have cared next. What will be next? I dress better! My scandal against him will be out anyday now….so hold on folks.

I just hope they do something to unite. I think Mr. Obama will give her more than what he would be entitled to just to shut her up like a whining child.

supporter   May 27th, 2008 8:52 pm ET

The out come will be in Obama's favor anything else will be unfair to the God himself, the Kennedy Demo's rule the DNC

mendemoi   May 27th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

The delegates have to be seated the way the people voted. The people are more important than those committee rule makers. People have never asked themselves whether the rules themselves were unconstitutional, overbearing and unfair to the voters. All we hear now is how it is fair or unfair to either of the candidates. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHOSE VOTING RIGHTS WERE STOLEN BY THE COMMITTEE RULE MAKERS? I will vote for McCain if the seating is anything less than the peoples wishes.

Core Democrat   May 27th, 2008 8:48 pm ET

The REAL nominee is Hillary Clinton. The QUALIFIED candidate is Hillary!
The candidate ACTUALLY WINNING THE GENERAL ELECTION is Hillary!
But a few caucuses, illgal disribution of pledged delegates, extra delegates to N Carolina, early primary in S Carolina (no punishment), and NOT counting votes IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN and the Democrat Party thinks they can pull the wool over our eyes. NO WAY!
WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR YOUR INEXPERIENCED CANDIDATE THAT HAS NO JUDGEMENT AN NO REAL DEEP ROOTS OF LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY!
Obama has been trending DOWN since Texas and Ohio! OPEN YOUR EYES DEMOCRATS! OR YOU WILL LOSE IN NOVEMEBER! AND THIS WILL GO DOWN ON RECORD AS THE BIGGEST JOKE EVER!

Dmitriy   May 27th, 2008 8:48 pm ET

So much for Obama being the Unifier.

Julie   May 27th, 2008 8:46 pm ET

Obama Chooses Radical Local Band Named after a Russian Uprising and Known for Music Defaming the Jewish People to Kick off his Rally!

It was reported by all the major news networks that Barack Obama drew a crowd of over 70,000 to hear him speak in Oregon. What the liberal media does not tell you is that the true crowd drawer was the concert that occurred just before his speech. The real rock stars at the Obama event were the members of a popular Oregon beat combo calling itself the Decemberists. Yes, just like the 1825 Russian uprising. Wikipedia states: "The band has used the National Anthem of the Soviet Union as an introduction at many concerts." Oh, no wonder they're opening for Neville Chamberlain

MM   May 27th, 2008 8:45 pm ET

I wish I could be there. All Obama supporters — make your voices heard through party unity and voter registration!

jeannette,GA   May 27th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

For the good of this country the "Rules Committee" must do what's right and count every vote. I'm old enough and experienced enough to see that nominating Obama will be a huge mistake. He might make a good candidate down the road but not now. Hillary Clinton is ready and will turn this country around.

Hillary's supporters will not vote for Obama - that's a fact! Nominating Obama will no doubt put John McCain in office.

Cindy   May 27th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

Darn insiders/scalpers… or… um… Dayum!! Obama is a bigger rockstar than Hannah Montana!

No McSame   May 27th, 2008 8:42 pm ET

The Super Delegates can shut it down right now. What is wrong or the hold up. Shut it down and they will come around.
NAVY Vet. for Obama

CKR   May 27th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

I am very glad to see this is a public meeting, nothing behind closed doors. I want to see how this committee can possibly justify their previous ruling. How can the Democratic Party possibly NOT count votes simply because of the day the election was held? That goes against all we believe as Democrats.

The Rules Committee made a mistake on their original ruling. They have this chance to fix it. I hope they take the opportunity to correct their error. Too many men and women have fought and died for the freedoms we hold dear, including the right to vote, for ANYONE to infringe on that right. Surely the leaders of our party value these rights as much as the members of our party.

Matthew   May 27th, 2008 8:38 pm ET

Spice Nation. Tell me what you want…

John Everett   May 27th, 2008 8:38 pm ET

Obama supporters will be falling into Hillary's trap if they counter protest. Keep calm. Obama has already won and FL & MI will be seated. Don't be goated into a divisive match with Hillary supporters-we are better than that. We are one party and no one is stealing this election. Hillary is looking for a fight. Don't be manipualated .

Say What!   May 27th, 2008 8:37 pm ET

OH SO YOU BREAK THE RULES AND DONT EXPECT TO PAY!? THE OTHER 48 PLAYED BY THE RULES - HILLARY AND SEN OBAMA BOTH KNEW THE PENALTY HILLARY DIDN'T CARE THEN BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT SHE WOULD WIN THE BIG SUPER TUE FEB 5th BUT WHEN IT DIDN'T GO SO WELL AND SHE FAILED MISERABLY NOWWWWW IS WHEN FL n MI IS A PROBLEM!
SHE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF!!!
UNLESS THE VOTES ARE SPLIT 50/50 DOWN THE MIDDLE, AS A REGISTERED VOTER IN MI, I WILL SUE THE DNC FOR MIS INFORMING ME THAT MY VOTE WOULD NOT COUNT WHEN I TRIED TO VOTE!!!

jeffturbo   May 27th, 2008 8:37 pm ET

Has the last 8 years tought you nothing about having a Commander-in-Chief with no foreign policy experience? And BOH has even less than Bush. Does the Kool-Aid taste good?

Obama 3008!   May 27th, 2008 8:35 pm ET

Rah, rah, rah!

No Hillary   May 27th, 2008 8:34 pm ET

It is just about time that DNC comes with a final answer to this matter. It has been used constantly by Hillary and even Republicans to confuse voters and create division among democratic minded voters.

KE   May 27th, 2008 8:34 pm ET

Oh Domination vs. Democracy

Michigan and Florida will be counted.

Super delegates will vote in Denver.

MD   May 27th, 2008 8:33 pm ET

Circus is about to begin.

joel   May 27th, 2008 8:30 pm ET

In as much as i do love the DEMS PARTY, will love the bylaw commitee members to get with the programe and punish FL and Mich. It is unfortunate how good American citizens in both states would have love their votes counted but the same good for nothing party heads that they themselves elected in office went ahead and willfully decided to do the wrong thing for the party by going against the rules set by the DNC not to vote before time. FL and Mich voters should hold their party officials responsible for this nonsense. As a matter of fact they should be voted out of office. These are the most unqualified office holders i have ever seen. They pretend as though they are there for the goodwill of the people, whereas they are there for their private interest. Shame on them.

Beckie Sue in Montana   May 27th, 2008 8:30 pm ET

WE LOVE YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OBAMA '08 & '12

White Marsh   May 27th, 2008 8:29 pm ET

Simply put, if the Clinton team had won February's Super-Tuesday in a dominating fashion, there would be no DNC-RBC meeting this Saturday. The Clinton's would have taken the Democratic nomination without a second thought regarding the seating of Michigan and Florida delegates. If by magic the Clinton's could hold the cards that are now in Obama’s hands (total delegates) - - - then Michigan & Florida would have no ally in the Clintons.

Debra   May 27th, 2008 8:29 pm ET

So will Hillary and Obama attend this meeting?

Barbara - Atlanta   May 27th, 2008 8:28 pm ET

I hope the DNC will make the correct decision. What ponders me is why the DNC would meet anyway when the democrats agreed earlier during the campaign that Florida and Michigan would be penalized for having their election early…

Bill Clinton's on words, "there's a cover-up going on".

Gregory   May 27th, 2008 8:26 pm ET

As a lifelong Republican, I have watched the events of this year's election with great interest. While I was lukewarm about all of the Republican candidates, including McCain, I was disgusted by Clinton's "do-whatever-it-takes" strategy. To hell with ethical behavior, to hell with the truth, to hell with good taste. Of course, we shouldn't be surprised - she is pathetic.

So recently, I have found the new promise of Obama very appealing. Someone that we all can believe in - even a life-long Republican (with an open mind). But I will be disgusted again if the DNC RBC changes the rules of the game this late in the contest. I will lose all faith in a system that has warranted little faith to begin with.

Any 10 year old knows that you change the rules only in the NEXT contest, not near the end of the current contest to appease the pitiful whining of the losing team. Imagine a close football game in which two nearly tied teams play to near the end of the game. Team A kicks a very close, but successful field goal. Team B attacks, cries, whines. My fans showed up, they cry, they deserve this victory! Then the referees huddle and decide to move the goal posts back 5 feet, invalidating the goal. Does anyone seriosuly think this fair?

The DNC RBC better think very carefully about this. I realize they are in a difficult spot, and may consider a "middle ground" to appease Clinton fans. But there is NO middle ground. The rules at the outset of the contest are the only ones that count (Rules that the hypocrite Clinton embraced when she thought she didn't need them). Changing them now would bring the integrity of the process and indeed of the Democratic party into question. And many of us considering a change in our political lives will have to look elsewhere for something to believe in.

Daniel   May 27th, 2008 8:26 pm ET

This is very shameful that the super delegates will allow it to even come down to this. The Rules and Bye Laws committee made the rules from the begining. And everybody agreed to them before the first vote was ever casted. Now why the need to try and change the rules? Because someone is so desperate to do and say anything to try and win a nomination. What is the super delegates doing? If you are a super delegate my question to you is what are you waiting for. There is no mathematical probability out there that suggest Clinton can win this. So what is the reluctance in endorsing. At this point, it doesn't matter who you want to endorse. If you want Obama make it known, if you want Hillary make it known. Super Delegate, with all due respect, you are doing more harm by not speaking up. If you can't make up your mind by June 1st as Howard Dean suggested, then you don't need to even speak up. You might as well stay put and never endorse.
Is this something hard to do? Apples or Oranges….

Drew, Central FL   May 27th, 2008 8:24 pm ET

Glad to see that this is going to be a public meeting. The need for transparency couldn't be any higher. Let's see what matters. Will the party and any hope of a Democrat getting into the White House be sacrificed? Or is the DNC leadership going to show some minerals?

We will see.

Julie   May 27th, 2008 8:22 pm ET

Hillary has a right to keep fighting. We live in a democracy and has the right and freedom to go for the top job for as long as she wants!!

I support her and will not vote for Osama…oops, Obama if she doesn't get the nomination. He might look good now, but just wait. His charisma and smile are covering his inexperience, inability to come up with a plan of his own(stole Hillary's), no back bone, inability to make a decision, act quickly, know what to do from day one, lack of credibility, lack of foreign experience, ability to talk without a prewritten speech/cheat sheet, talk without stumbling and stuttering, superiority complex…. Does he really think he can do what bigger and better Presidents have not been able to? Drink on dreamer.

Keep fighting Hillary. I will always support your cause!!

Black College Grad for Hillary   May 27th, 2008 8:22 pm ET

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
See, everyone is clearly not happy with Obama.
If so, the superdelegates would have made the final push and he would have enough.

Doesn't matter how you feel about any of the candidates, why do Obama supporter hope for change when the other two candidates have a life time of work that you can just read about and know what they are going to do?

This man is going to be a laughing stock and disgrace for educated black people, he knows nothing and listens to no one except people hungering for power that are using his popularity to get it.

This is the worst election season i have ever seen. Democrats just never seem to get it.

D.Kimbro OHIO   May 27th, 2008 8:21 pm ET

Finally the dream ends..The party elders will do the right thing, and deal w/FL and MI. I really don't think they should be seated, but they probably will be. I feel for the people in both states. I blame the republican administations that are in power, and knew this would cause issues for the democrats. However, that plan will blow up on them when this problem is resolved.

REALLY, CNN? Just Remember Truman/Dewey in 1948!   May 27th, 2008 8:21 pm ET

"Duplicate comments detected"??? They why don't you post the first one. There is NO OTHER comment on this blog, so it can't be for lack of space.

Jackie   May 27th, 2008 8:20 pm ET

The problem is that if the Dems ignore Florida and Michigan, they will lose the voters in those states come the general election. Despite everyone worrying about breaking the "rules," it wasn't the FL & MI voters that actually chose to move up the primaries. Somehow Dem voters in FL are being punished for the actions of their Republican governor (Charlie Crist).

No matter what, these protests (on both sides) are becoming fueled by too much anger and hatred. It's going to take a lot to calm down supporters and get everyone working together so we can actually defeat McCain.

joe smith   May 27th, 2008 8:19 pm ET

seems this candidate, and the others frequently mentioned as potential new commanders in chief of the USA, fail, just as current chief to address the financial markets, and the negative effect oil speculaters are having on our Nation, it's people, and our National security.

JF   May 27th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

The tine has come when the trumpet of victory will sound. I am not against Hillary. But i think it is high time she caution her supporters to stop what ever they are planning to do. Instead, i think she should go ahead and start looking for ways to rebulid this party and to stand side by side with Obama. As for FL and Mich, there should be no two ways in trying to resolve this issue. While we were young, our parents taught us that, to be a man we should never mak a promise we can never keep. We should make our words and actions to be our bones. all abide to. We were being punished for breaking the laws binding our family. These were rules and laws we Hillary should keep her promise. It is just unfortunate that,Hillary is going through this, that is the reason why she is trying to make sure that she gets the nomination. Well, if truly the bylaws committee member