WASHINGTON (CNN) - It promises to be the highest-profile gathering of Democratic heavyweights until the summer nominating convention – and shaping up to be a harder ticket to come by: this Saturday’s Washington meeting to debate the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations is officially the toughest ticket in town.
The members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – the panel weighing how both states should be represented at the convention in Denver – will meet very publicly, at a hotel site ringed with protestors and satellite trucks. Inside, they’ll be joined by a swarm of political journalists – and a few rank-and-file Democrats. Only about 300 people – including RBC members, press and public - will be allowed inside.
But hundreds of Democrats eager for a front-row seat to history found themselves out of luck today, as the party’s online registration system for the spots available to the public was overwhelmed at 10 a.m. ET, when it opened. All available seats were claimed in about a minute.
(By comparison: the Hannah Montana concert earlier this year at the Verizon Center – granted, a much larger venue – took roughly 12 minutes to sell out.)
Disgruntled Democrats and party officials alike took to the Web, amid complaints from disappointed would-be attendees that they had successfully registered, only to see that confirmation disappear. DNC officials said some had missed out on their chance by moments. “The difference between getting a spot and not was a matter of seconds,” said DNC Internet Director Josh Hendler in a statement quickly posted on the party’s Web site. “We’re sorry we don’t have enough room for everyone who wanted to be there, but we’ll make sure you can see the meeting if you want to.”
In fact, ticket-holders won’t have much of an advantage over disappointed Democrats forced to watch the proceedings via on television or online: they won’t be allowed to speak, or to express their viewpoint non-verbally through signs or banners.
And there may be almost as much news outside the venue as inside the ballroom where delegates meet, as groups backing both candidates have pledged to bring supporters to press their case on RBC members as they arrive.
As the temperature rose on rhetoric surrounding Saturday’s protests, the organizer of one of the pro-Obama rallies planned for that day told CNN Tuesday they were re-dubbing their gathering a “voter registration event” – a nod to party unity – and not a “counter-protest” that could be viewed as an attempt to disrupt the proceedings.
This race is so fixed. You, DNS, thinks that people fool.
A lot of people worry that Hillary destroy Democratic party. DNS destroyed yourself already. And please do not blame Hillary for everything. Your empty candidate Obama – is nothing compare to Hillary Clinton. Nothing.
DNC, you behave so agly during this comaign. You deserve to be destroyed. It is time to end DNC because it provides no DEMOCRACY
CNN, post this for once!
SIMPLE, those votes should not be counted as is. I just want to say to the Clinton supporters, how is it a fair primary when we truly don't know if Clinton would have won both states..Obama wasn't on the ticket in Michigan and thousands of Floridians didn't come out to vote knowing the delegates were going to be stripped, so what do you say to those voters who didn't have there voices heard... You guys claim you agree with Hillary about every votes counts, but there were many who didn't get to be heard.. True, maybe in the end she might would have one, but will never know... And stop blaming Obama for the mistake that the elected officials of those states made...You guys starting to sound like Bill that there's a conspiracy and cover up....Please! don't be riduclous. And while your at it, I guess to keep from having bad feelings with those states, the caucus states will be disenfranchised which is more of them, which by the way Hillary would need.
OH, if I get one more person speaking on behalf of me saying Americans want Hillary, CUT THE CRAP, cause I don't want her...I almost was going to stomach the hard feelings I had against her and cast my vote in her direction if she became nominated, but know, FORGET IT!
Just wanted to add, I do agree that they should be seated, but in a fair way since the primaries weren't done legitimately...
READ THE RULES:
1. Nothing in these rules shall be interpreted to encourage or permit states with party registration and enrollment, or states that limit participation to Democrats only, to amend their systems to open participation to members of other parties.
2No meetings, caucuses, conventions or primaries which constitute the first determining stage in the presidential nomination process (the date of the primary in primary states, and the date of the first tier caucus in caucus states) may be held prior to the first Tuesday in February or after the second Tuesday in June in the calendar year of the national convention. Provided, however, that the Iowa precinct caucuses may be held no earlier than 22 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the Nevada first-tier caucuses may be held no earlier than 17 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the New Hampshire primary may be held no earlier than 14 days before the first Tuesday in February; and that the South Carolina primary may be held no earlier than 7 days before the first Tuesday in February. In no instance may a state which scheduled delegate selection procedures on or between the first Tuesday in February and the second Tuesday in June 1984 move out of compliance with the provisions of this rule.
3. Violation of timing: In the event the Delegate Selection Plan of a state party provides or permits a meeting, caucus, convention or primary which constitutes the first determining stage in the presidential nominating process to be held prior to or after the dates for the state as provided in Rule 11 of these rules, or in the event a state holds such a meeting, caucus, convention or primary prior to or after such dates, the number of pledged delegates elected in each category allocated to the state pursuant to the Call for the National Convention shall be reduced by
fifty (50%) percent, and the number of alternates shall also be reduced by fifty (50%) percent. In addition, none of the members of the Democratic National Committee and no other unpledged delegate allocated pursuant to Rule 8.A. from that state shall be permitted to vote as members of the state’s delegation. In determining the actual number of delegates or alternates by which the state’s delegation is to be reduced, any fraction below .5 shall be rounded down to the nearest whole number, and any fraction of .5 or greater shall be rounded up to the next nearest whole number.
These are some of the rules that apply to the DNC, I suggest everyone download the rules and read them so they don't make statements that are not based in fact. Rules are rules accept in America where if we don't like the rules all we have to do is cry like a bunch of babies until we get our way. The Democratic Party has turned into a bunch of spoiled children who cry every time they don't get what they want, when they want and Bill and Hillary Clinton are the biggest cry babies of them all.
In casual golf, there is a place for a "mulligan"-a second chance to hit a better shot. Mulligans have no place in professional golf. The contest for the democratic presidential nomination is not a friendly game of weekend golf. No mulligans for team Clinton!
If they can't even run the primaries how can they run the country? What a bunch of bozos.
People who never run for president have more advice to give to Hillary Clinton.
Next presidencial candidates should think twice not to pick strategists who are telling Hillary Clinton to give it up at this point.
Michigan and Florida will be counted.
I got a ticket, and I'll be holding a Count Every Vote sign! This is democracy and freedom of speech at its finest! What are all you naysayers afraid of? Let's take it to the convention floor, and years from now we'll be reading our grandchildren's history books, saying, "I was there." History is messy. Feel lucky you're in it!
I just don't trust Obamba; he will say anything to win at any cost. He lies and his supporters cover it up.
I wonder what job his uncle had in the magnificent rescue? It would be interesting for some one who has intelligence to research.
I don't believe he was an officer but what was he doing over there?
Yeah....good way to phrase it "voter registration rally", not a "counter-protest". Don't be fooled people.....it is a COUNTER-PROTEST. The Obama campaign is nothing but cunning and deceitful!
Vote for what and for who, when no one in Clinton camp respects the 'Rules' and perhaps no respect of 'Law'. Did we forget the history of 'Clinton'?
Pathetic, sad and un-real.
We need some Obama volunteers to go over to Iraq with him for the formal surrender. Anyone who is a woos/appeaser may apply but that
could include all the Obamanians.
Obama is a crook, thief, thug, liar, heretic, communist...
I will not vote for Obama...
I will either write in Hillary or vote for McCain...
Hillary in 08'
I hate to tell everyone that there is really no hurry in this matter. Neither Barack or Hillary will have enough votes to become the nominee, plus the fact that the "Super Delegates" votes will not count until they go the the convention in August.
And then, it could possibly happen that even those "Super Delegates" said that they are for Obama, they could change their votes and vot for Hillary instead. And I must say that I for one would love to see that happen.
Barack Hussein Obama thinks of himself as the winner, while in fact, he has NOT won yet! Barack Hussein Obama will not be able to beat McCain in November, while Hillary Clinton is able to beat John McCain in November, and become our next President.
I am tired of people saying Hillary is breaking the rules. The only 'rules' that the candidates agreed to was not to campaign in Florida or Michigan. Hillary didn't campaign in either state, Obama ran TV ads in Florida (so who broke the rules). The decision to penalize the states was made by the DNC, not the candidates. Obama is just like Bush; let's not count all the votes, we should just quit counting when he is ahead. And he wants to be a beacon for democracy!! Oh thats right, his supporters seem to think they are voting for American Idol, not the President of the United States of America.
I have family in FL, none of them voted b/c they paid attention to the news and knew that thier vote would not count. In MI Obama wasn't on the ballot. Therefore, they should split these votes 50/50.
Just do the right thing and resolve this equitably and let all parties respect the results. It will not be elegant or satisfactory for anyone.
Obama got his concentration camps mixed up. That's what happens when you're trying to shed some of your grandfather's light on YOU to make up for a total lack of service to your country. Or was there sniper fire when Gramps was describing the event, and Barry couldn't hear what he said???
What goes around, comes around.
What an arrogant self serving jerk he is!
Obambus is an idiot. He will lie and say anything to get elected. Don't trust this guy who was raised in a Muslim country.
For his information lead elements of the 6th Armored Division
What kind of whacko is Obambus? First he says he loves his preacher now he says he doesn't. Hey you can't have it both ways. what a whacko. Be careful of his cotton candy fluff speeches.
No one will remember what he says, but no one will forget what he will do to our great country,.
I think the solution is this: seat the two delegations but strip them of superdelegates. The supers were the folks that got the two states in trouble.
The seated delegates need to be split 50/50 as there were a number of rank and file members who did not vote. Additionally, this recognizes that no candidate campaigned there. It is possible, however unlikely, that Dennis Kucinich, Christopher Dodd or another candidate could have won there if they had campaigned there. So it is possible that splitting the delegations according to an even weighting is the way to go.......
It is totally spurious for any one candidate any victory in either state. To do so is to also validate all those 'elections' that were held in the former Soviet Union..........
I would like them to decide once and for all that the Florida voters and Dem leaders had no choice as it was the Republican state government that moved-up the primary date. So they should be counted as they voted.
I am sure that Barack will remain the nominee and that he will lose to McCain. This is what they call poetic justice.
The protest is too late. This should have happened before the DNC decided that the FL/MI votes wouldn't count due to rule breaking. (Hillary agreed to that....doesn't FL/MI realize that?) I feel sorry for FL/MI voters. Everyone is running around crying "every vote should count." ..what happens to those who actually followed the rules and didn't vote? If every vote is to count, then let FL/MI vote now. I swore that when a woman ran for president that I would vote for the first time in my life....instead I am voting for an incredible black man. Hillary brings shame to the female race. If you were to look in a "sexist dictionary" and was looking for what a typical definition of a woman is to a sexist pig...her pic would be there...manipulative, whiner, sore loser, and weak!!!
Tammy/White Female/NW IN
Wow, Clinton supporters dissing Obama's great-uncle now? How low will you go?
Tim from Ohio and other HRC supporters for McCain--You are proving Obama's 'bitter' statement to be true. The essence of the statement was that people often vote AGAINST their best interests b/c they are bitter. They vote on issues like guns, religion etc. instead. HRC supporters for McCain are doing just that. They are bitter b/c their candidate lost and voting AGAINST their best interests. So go ahead and vote Mc Cain in office and watch him appoint Supreme Court judges that will over turn Roe vs. Wade, which is literally a slap in the face to HRC and all that she stands for.