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Hillary, I love and admire you but let it go. Fair is fair. If you were in Obama's position, you would have declared the race over ages ago and look how he has not insisted that you leave. Let the love of the party not yourself be your guide. Chelsea will make a good candidate. Let it go. Democrats unite, the republicans are laughing!!!

I'm beginning to wonder, if Obama wasn't running and if there was another candidate running against Hillary and she was losing, would she still be squawking about counting the votes from FL or MI ?

Hillary will say anything to win. Even denied her husband 'bio'. He says that he won the democratic nomination on april 1992 and june like Hillary try to make you believ. She is just a liar, don't you see it ....How peoples can support this fat lady ...

Is it so hard for the world to see who has integrity between the two...Right now , who is acting presidential......
For Hilary supporters who have a difficulty understanding this..Hilary can never win, even if she was given the nomination........Obama nation cannot support Hilary because of her character..who have to remeber mos of Obama nation ( The Blacks ) actaully supported her before, she made comment sto be litle them...the same way she will do the same for the spanish becaus eof Richardson...
Its all about Hilary...and even if she won...those bitter women cannot make her POTUS without the youth vote, the intelligent americans vote, the educated vote

The only fair way is for a primary re-vote in Michigan and Forida. Then there can be no argument as to a just resolution to this problem. Obviously, Obama would not want this as he would handily lose both states. If this does not occur, the DEM's will be fractured, which will result in John McCain becoming the next President.

It's so frickin' obvious. Clinton and her wealthy backers would rather see McCain win than Obama. And then she'll run again in 2012. The media won't say it but it's the truth. To all Democrats who think she's going to stand up for the "little guy" – it's a lie! Please stop supporting her – she's not what she seems! She's a closet Republican with a few socially liberal viewpoints. But when it hits our pockets – she's with the big rich boys! As a woman, I know she doesn't really stand for women's rights, especially not poor women. Did she speak up when her husband stopped welfare? NO!

Breaking News!!!!

Hillary Clinton has won the Michigan primary in the biggest landslide victory in all of American history!!!! She won by 100% of the vote!!!!! Oddly enough there are no Clinton supporters dancing in the streets celebrating the blowout victory, isn't that weird? At least they are proclaiming the great victory through their popular vote argument and they should be, their uncontested victory which they are just now realizing is important shows the values that all Americans care about!!!

To Eric: Well stated. Obama has been the victim of false accusations from those who support Clinton, whom is the one guilty of those accusations!! Its about time the Clinton supporters let go of their emotions and see the truth.

GO HILLARY! If DNC does not cooperate, Florida will go to McKain. Simple as that.

To everyone who keeps blabbering on about electoral votes, please be advised that none are at stake in the primaries, nor are the primaries a true reflection of how the actual vote will go in the general election. There are to many variables this early in the process. It's good to be excited but keep in mind that the real battle only begins once each party nominates their individual candidates.

Momo, perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us as to how Obama's supporters blackmailed the superdelagetes into voting for him. I read about all kinds of claim against Obama, but I have yet to see the proof. As Dandy Don use to sing, "Turn out the lights, the party's over".

Get over it Hillary, even the media knows you are finished.

Sherrie ... support Clinton if you will, I don't. I despise her, not because of her campaign, but because I always did. I have always seen her as a manipulative megalomaniac who will do anything for power.

BUT.. my hatred of the candidate is not an indication of my feelings for her supporters, so please don't tkae it that way. I am sure I speak for a lot of the Obama crowd. Why do you – and other Hillary supporters and yes Obama supporters as well- take it so personally when someone doesnt agree with you on a candidate. In a democracy we are all entitled to our opinion – and it only works if we each respect the others' opinions.

why is the american idol afraid to have a revote in michigan and florida?he was all excited to say he was ahead in the popular vote now he dosen't say anything about it now.one question why do you not see his name on any of his signs at all his big rallys?dosen't it seem strange that you don't see it anywhere?unless his name is real change.

Thus far the DNC has done the right thing. It has stuck to its guns on rules that all of the presidential candidates agreed to beforehand by signature in order to enter the race as Democratic Party candidates. When Florida and Michigan broke the rules, Obama, not the Clintons, has lived up to rules as a team playing Democratic Party candidate. Because they will lose the nomination if the rules are followed, the Clintons propose to break the rules. This is the nature of the Clintons-dishonest, cheats, and, with baggage like this, the Clintons are less likely to win the general election.

The sad thing is not just about seeing the once revered Clintons sink to such low depths of desperations but the fact that the rest of their supporters fail so see them now for what they are; arrongant and single minded in persuit of political power.

Really Mrs Clinton !

You think the stripping of Florida's and Michigan's delegates is like Mugabe's contempt for and attempts to circumnevigate the will of the voters. Mugabe at least had the decency of pretending he is following pre-laid down rules and not making up new ones because he was losing !

The DNC stand ashame too; they are wusses. They should declare that win or lose the White House, they would do it by the book. If Florida and Michigan want McCain in Nov' 08 let them have him. The DNc should have stated clearly that under no circumstances would they change rules for expediency of an easy White House. The Democratic Party should take the high road and cement the moral superiority that has always attracted more neutrals to them than to the GOP.

The Rules and Bylaws Committe never need have been converned if the DNC had stood firm and clearly on their position. All the so called undecided superdelegates are just milking the moment, gaining a relevance that will render a well meaning selection system a joke.

Protesting for what? To break the established law just to get back in to the White House? I think DNC must be asked to create a by law to support accomodate candidates who loses in the primaries.
I do not think in a lawful country like America Hilary will be allowed to break the law.

This effort is not solely organized by the Clinton Campaign. Floridademandsrepresentation.org (a nonpartisan group) is sending bus loads of people from Florida (obama and CLinton people) to protest our right to vote.

Sign up today and join the busloads of people.
Shame on both the CLinton and Obama people for making this a partisan effort!!

Clinton is the better candidate for November.

I'm no Obama supporter, but for the love of God, someone should sit this woman down and explain to her in the clearest of terms: IT IS OVER AND FINISHED. SHE'S OUT!!!

Can someone from the Hillary camp tell me why we as Obama supporters are being viewed negative because we played by the rules? Hillary herself stated that the votes will not count until she started to lose. Define for me the phrase, "stealing the nomination" means?

The Clintons thought they wrap this nomination up in Iowa. When they didn't there was not real plan B. The old style politics are out of style. You can wear white after labor day. Its time for a new generation of leaders.

One of the earlier posters had it exactly right: not a single Hillary Clinton supporter has ever been able to reconcile HRC's sudden "count-every-vote" protest with her previous stance on the MI/FL sanctions, or with her aides' previous actions and statements with re: breaking the DNC's rules. Just admit that you want your candidate to win at any cost and move on. How come we never hear Bill Clinton's old campaign line about standing up for people who "work hard and play by the rules"? It would be too hypocritical, that's why.

Anyone who thinks that Obama cannot win over McCain in the GE has not been paying any attention to McCain and the Republicans over the last few weeks. The Repugs are collectively and individually in such disarray I would feel sorry for them if I didn't understand all too well what a Republican White House, and possible Republican majority has done to this country!

Some Americans are not mature nor ready for strong mind – BO – They are obviously ready for Liars as usual HRC, racism and other idiots thing…Now I don't care about who you are as I know you are either empty mind or full of bad intentions

An American in Canada for David May 27th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Give me a break...Clinton is so "DONE" the fork came out on its own.

I understand why Hillary keeps going on in the campaign. She has fools like yourself supporting the ideal that she can still pull this thing off.

Practice this: Yes, President Obama Sir.

I would like to also quickly acknowledge the elephant sitting in Americas living room.....RACISM represents more of why Hillary would have a stronger chance in the general. However, remember, Hillary can only compete for those more Republican "racist sector" states that she won. She does not have the appeal to turn as many states or the turnout as Obama. Operation Chaos also helped her with some of her victories.Hillary should have done what John Edwards did during a debate when asked if people voted for him if they would not Hillary because she's a woman, or Barack because he's black. John Edwards immediately said "I wouldn't want their vote" "..and I would tell them that" ...Did Hillary take such a strong presidential stand when she had the chance?......Keep in mind, there are a lot more people whom do not vote in the primaries, but will in the general. With Hillaries highest negative rating for a politician in history....She really, is not better suited to win the general.

Seat them! Obama, along with Edwards and Richardson, VOLUNTARILY took his name off the MI ballot. It was political manuevering to prevent the seating of those delegates because everyone knew she was going to win MI. Otherwise there was no reason to take his name off the ballot–what could it hurt??? he would've had some votes because many voted uncommitted.

She's very desperate, That's all I 've got to say!
I had lot of respect for Bill, her husband, but now, she's dragg him in this stupid nonsense race, and he's bitting it....He should know better that this is wrong, he was president.
Anyway this will destroy the democratic party,
Wake up Hillary!!!

I don't know why it should surprise me that Obama's people will picket the DNC because counting every vote would be the right thing to do and obviously he doesn't want what is right and fair. The DNC is punishing the voters of MI & FL but it was not who picked the day to vote. Since when is it the American way to punish the wrong people. I am so tired of hearimng about them breaking the rules THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRIMARY DAY. Obama did run ads in both MI & FL which is much more than Hillary did and she won by overwhelming majority. The DNC refers to being fair to the states that obeyed the rules but the voters didn't make the rules in those states either. I don't know anyone in any state that believees FL & MI should not be counted. THIS ALONE SHOULD SHOW THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY THAT OBAMA IS OUT FOR OBAMA AND NOT WHAT IS FAIR FOR THE VOTERS OF THIS COUNTRY. Obama should want win fair and square but instead he wants to win any way he can. He is afraid of a real vote. McCain will chew him up and spit him out. If he felt the Clinton machine was hard on him he has no idea what hre is really in for

To9 Mark:
Hillary posts are fewer b ecause CNN is in the tank for Obama and will not print any of Hillary posts. Go McCain.
Nina

Just wish I could be there with them! Go Obama!

The Democratic party of Florida says that they had no control and that it was their Governor and Congress that created this mess. What is overlooked is that these people were voted in office with the help of Democrats to represent them. They cannot now say they were not at all responsible for this mess. If this argument is used, then how can one say that the issue of gay rights should be left to the states- because the representatives of the state would be carrying out the wishes of its constituency.

Unlike most of you I am from Florida. I and many of my friends did not vote because it was made clear that it would not count. The Republicans, DNC, Hillary and all of the nominees agreed thats the way it would be. Why the sudden change?! Hillary did not stand up for me and my fellow Floridians before she started to lose. I find this to be extremely hipocritical. NOT WHAT I WANT IN MY LEADER!

Some Americans are not mature nor ready for strong mind – BO – They are obviously ready for Liars as usual HRC, racism and other idiots thing…Now I don't care about who you are as I know you are ether empty mind or full of bad intentions

Obama do us all a favor and drop out. Your family needs you, let the professionals handle the dirty politics. You should be at home baking cookies.

Let them burn themselves into oblivion. We would all be better off without a Democratic Party.

To all so-called democrats who are saying "Hillary or McCain", guess what? YOUR CHOICE/VOTE HAVE VERY LONG TERM REPERCUTIONS... AND NONE OF THEM WILL BE TO YOUR FAVOR:

- When gas prices continue to rise.
- When jobs continue to disappear because of off-shoring
- When the number of killed or seriously injured soldiers continue to increase.
- When universal healthcare and global warming continue to be just a subject in some documentaries
- When the economy continues to benefit big business while the "hard working, white americans" continues to struggle

WELL, SMILE AND TAKE PRIDE IN THE MESS YOU SUPPORTED WITH YOUR SHORT-SIGHTED STANCE.

Btw, why don't you ask Hillary. "Why did you sign an agreeement that Michigan and Florida WOULD NOT COUNT?" She refuses to answer that question...

Janet Napolitano or Kathleen Sebelius for Vice President!

Here is a statement by Terry McAuliffe when he was head of the DNC (2004) when Senator Levin of Michigan threatened to move the Michigan primary ahead of schedule against DNC rules:

"The head of the Democratic National Committee was having it out with Sen. Carl Levin because Michigan wanted to crash the rarefied club of early presidential primary states.

Move your primary too early, Terry McAuliffe warned, and Michigan will lose half its delegates to the 2004 Democratic convention.

"The closest they'll get to Boston will be watching it on television," McAuliffe vowed. "I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules."

Bob Schieffer reminded him of this when McAuliffe was interviewed this past Sunday. McAuliffe did not answer by simply saying that the most the DNC could do is strip half of a delegation from a state. The DNC rules (which McAuliffe drew up) state that the DNC can take all of the delegates.

HIs candidate did not adhere to the rules, so now he is using those wonderful legal skills to uphold the rule of law......

Didn't Bill Clinton just disparage the Obama campaign for lobbying superdelegates? What am I missing here?

Hillary is encouraging bloggers to lobby the DNC and its Rules Committee. As far as Superdelegates go, the Clintons are lobbying the Supers – David Hardt, President of Young Democrats of America "plans to vote for Mrs. Clinton after fielding calls from her, Mr. Clinton and Chelsea, who also visited him in Nevada. "It's always shocking when you get a call from someone like that." according to the NY Times website. So, is President Clinton criticizing his own wife's campaign?????

Based on all the angry verbal abuse (some racial) I got in Philly from Hillary supporters, I expect it is going to be a tense situation in DC.

Some Americans are not mature nor ready for strong mind – BO – They are obiously ready for Liars as usual HRC, racism and other idiots thing…Now I don't care about who you are as I know you are ether empty mind or full of bad intentions...

If pro-Obama folks plan to be there, I hope they will put out a POSITIVE message that does NOT play into the Hillary-camp's spin that Obama is indifferent to the voters of MI and FL. The last thing we need is a counter-demo that ratchets up ill feelings within the Dem Party even more. Stay positive, like our candidate.

What is wrong with Obama and his supporters??? Not count the votes of Florida and Michigan??? We can then dismiss these two states in November!!! They will go Republican. Popular vote counts. Most Democrats want HILLARY!!!

She will ruin her party before she would check her ego.

If, Obam does any thing to disenfranchize Michigan and Florida voters, he can not depend on those sates in the fall elections. He has already did what he could to prevent a re-vote in those states. HILLARY COULD END UP BEING A WRITE IN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT!

Okay, I was a die-hard Hillary supporter, but since it is clear Obama is going to win the nomination, I am beginning to support him, because I am all about party unity. However, Obama supporters, you guys have to stop bad-mouthing Hillary and her supporters. What you don't understand is that she has had a very strong base for a longer time than Obama has had his, and Obama needs her supporters to beat McCain. I have no problem with Obama and I think he would be an excellent president, but speaking as a Hillary supporter, I must admit that Obama supporters are so rude and ugly to Hillary supporters that if Obama loses in November I will feel a really sick pleasure because it would shut up the arrogance of all the Obama people. So keep bad-mouthing Hillary if you want to, but you have to understand that people doing that will be the reason Obama loses to McCain, and it is currently the reason so many Hillary supporters do not want to vote for Obama.

i am AMAZED at the name calling and spoild brat attitudes by Hillary supporters. You spout EVERY SINGLE talking point you read and hear. YOU call Obama supporters nasty WHILE BEING NASTY. You claim they play the race card WHILE PLAYING THE RACE CARD. You claim they play the gender card WHILE PLAYING THE GENDEER CARD.....

and now.... YOU ARE THREATING, THREATENING, THREATENING TO TEAR THE PARTY APART SHOULD YOU GIRL LOSE, OR "NOT" BE OFFERED THE V.P. SPOT.... (we won't vote for Obama... "whaaaa" .... we will work to make sure he loses the G.E. "whaaaaa" ... hillary is treated poorly ... "whaaaaa" What about rev wright... "WHAAAAAA" freaking – whaaa!"

I cannot WAIT for you guys to be SILENCED! GEEZ!

When I was young... I was told to play by the rules....anything else is cheating.....rules are rules....Mrs. Clinton if you want to hold the highest office known to man but you can't play by the rules...how can the American public trust someone who will not play by the rules...like I said last week...go home and learn how to bake some cookies...stay in your place....barefeet and in the kitchen...

In a democracy each and every vote should be counted – end of story-no party and no candidate should ever establish or agree to rules that disenfranchise voters. What are the Obama supporters going to chant, "Don't count the vote." Jimmy Carter goes all over the world to make sure that elections are legitimate because votes are counted. Maybe he should make a trip to Fl and Mich. The votes should be counted as they are or new elections should be held. Anything else is undemocratic.

It was Obama that changed the rules – not Hillary. She did not campaign in either state, nor did she run any tv or radio ads. Obama is the one who took his name off of the ballot in Michigan. And he is the one who ran tv and radio ads in Florida prior to their primary. So all of you Obamabots – get your facts right and stop trying to screw Hillary out of any chance at a fair nomination process.

What I don't understand is why the Obama Camp thinks that the ONLY people that voted for , or support Clinton, were racist or poor and uneducated. I am not racist, not wealthy but not poor, and with a college degree. Statistics may show that a majority are, but when you are being condecending or attacking, you include us all.

I am sick and tired of this so called "honest" Clinton"s , they would do anything or everything for POWER, right or wrong, it is discusting.

Hillary, if you love the party, please accept that you have lost and let us unite the party. I was your supporter at the beginning (not Obama's) but have accepted that the democrats want him. I cannot tolerate desperation you have displayed. You have spoiled my image of Bill Clinton. He now sounds so pathetic. What do you two have to hide that you need to get to the White House so much. You are thinking of yourself, not the party. We winning in November is bigger than you. Please for the sake of the party, be gracious. History will be kind to you. Let us get the republicans out. Pleaaase!!!

Sherrie50? Don't you mean that you've seen the hatred from Hillary Supporters on the blogs? Are you that blind to think that Hillary or her supporters have been so sweet and innocent during this whole process? hillary spills out divisiveness and it's evident from your comments and other Hillary Supporters on this blog. You are so caught up in your candidate that you can't see the forest from the trees or can't even discern her lies. I bet you believe every word that comes out of her mouth: that she really cares about the voters of FL & MI. Yeah right if she really cared about disenfranchising voters in FL & MI she would've protested this thing before the primaries even began. Now all of a sudden she's concerned because she's LOSING! Some of you hillary supporters are really on some type of crazy drug.

hahahaha!mccain just got heckled.get used to it!this will be constant!

ROAD TRIP.......................GOING TO WASHINGTON

TO GB....WHAT YOU GONNA DO LEAVE THE COUNTRY...CAUSE YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT YOUR NEW PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA EVERY DAY ON THE NEWS....

I THINK THEY NEED CITIZENS IN...OH WELL YOU PICK A COUNTRY...

AND TO ALL THE OBAMA HATERS....WE AS HIS SUPPPORTERS DO HAVE BRAGGING RIGHTS....CAUSE HE IS BEATING HRC ON EVERY BASE......

GO OBAMA....THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THESE UNITED STATES...MAY GOD BLESS AND PROTECT YOU....

Hearing Bill use the term "disrespectful" in the same sentence as his WIFE makes me want to puke ! He has been the MOST desrespectful husband in politics !

Posts for Hillary are getting fewer because of all the attacks from the Obama supporters. This is clearly not a discussion of the issues. It is vicious attacks from Obama. What is the point of posting; there is none so blind as he who will not see!!

To all the Clinton and McCain supporters....what are you going to do when Obama wins the election? Hating him will not change a thing. Are you all going to leave America and become citizens of another country or stay and prosper on the new beginnings? Just like we've always had to see what each newly elected person brings to the white house, we will just have to wait and see. I wish I could take the energy you are investing into hating this man and put it in my gas tank. I could drive forever.

What does the Barack Obama supporters gain from demonstrating at the Rules Committee meeting? If BO is so cles to getting the nomination then allowing the peoples votes in Florida and Michigan will only help his candidacy. Or is it that they want to repress anyone who disagrees with Barack?

Hillary and her supporters are in denial. They seem to make things up as they go along.... whatever angle seems to suit their cause... is what they are trying today. Rules no longer matter... the Democratic Party doesn't matter... Gas tax doesn't matter. Her supporters eat up every lie she spits out ... they are crazy. I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON ...EVEN IF YOU PAID ME!!!

Who will be the president of Who-ville?

I am sure that FL and MI are very important to Sen. Clinton, just like poor socks was when they were in the WH, but what happened to socks when they didnt need him anymore? They gave him away, How much will she care about FL and MI when she no longer needs them?

If Hillary was winning she wouldn't care about seating the delegates from Florida and Minnesota. She keeps changing the rules because she's not ahead in the count. Hillary should step out of the race gracefully instead of continuing her hateful remarks against Senator Obama.

It is interesting that a lot of Clinton supporters feel as though HRC is being victimized. But, then, Obama simply does not have a verbal equivalent of "Shame on you, Barack Obama" directed at his opponent.

Some Americans are not mature nor ready for srtong mind – BO – they are ready for Liars as usual, racism and other idiots thing...

How do all you Hillary Supporters expect for Hillary to win the General Election without the Obama supporters? You are just as delusional as your leader.

Nag ... Denial ... Plot .. Nag ... Denial ... Scheme ... Nag ... Denial ... Twist .. Nag ...
Now we know why Bill kept on keeping away, OMG ... Give it up!

True there may be some Floridians who have been blinded by Hillary's lies on disenfranchisement, but I have to applaud all those other Floridians who, during Sen. Obama's recent 3-day stint in their state turned out to give him the numbers for the LARGEST POLITICAL RALLY EVER in Florida's history (16,000 to be exact). I also didn't hear of this big surge to attend his rallies and turn backs to him as claimed by Sen. Clinton's supporters and found it interesting that during her own visit to the state that she reportedly didn't even fill up half of a 7,000 seat stadium. Not bad for a guy so many of Sen. Clinton's supporters claim are despised by them and blamed for their sad state of affairs courtsey of THEIR elected officials.

Oh...and about Michigan...I've heard the same tired rheortic against Sen. Obama where these voters are concerned too but based on the media coverage of when he was last in the state (where Edwards endorsed him to the world) I find it rather hard to believe that he didn't stand a chance in hell (had the voting gone as it should have) of claiming victory or near victory there either.

I'm with you all the way white woman in MI.

For all those who say the results of the Florida vote should count, what about those in Florida who did not vote because the DNC said their votes would not count? You want the Hillary votes to count but you want to forget about those who followed the rules and did not vote because they were told their votes would not count..

Why is it CNN that you do not post a very large majority of my comments? Always left in moderation even after may comments were posted after mine. Are my comments too honest and fair? Or are they too well thought out and realistic compared to the majority of those hateful, inciteful remarks that you do publish?

This is pure stupidity. Any protest at this point in time is mute. This will be dealt with and resolved by the DNC. There is absolutely no need to protest in any way shape or form, in doing so it only shows your ignorance.

As for Hillary Clinton and her campaign organizing, paying for transportation and hotel expenses is absolutely outlandish and only adds fuel to the fire as to why many bloggers insist that her campaign end now. Sen Clinton in January and the months befor stated many time that FL and MI were not important in that the broke the rules and their votes would not count. Now that she is so far behind and ever since she fell behind to the extent of questionable recovery in late Feb and March; she now has one hope and that is Michigan and Florida.
Then and only then did those votes in Florida and Michigan become important and relevant. Fact is that had she been successful in February and March to the point of closing the door on Senator Obama; as planned in her original campaign strategy ; Michigan and Florida would have remained an unimportant and irrelevant issue.
That everyone is the plain and simple truth. Why? When the DNC made their ruling and all the candidates signed off on those rulings, not Senator Clinton did not voice any reservations or concerns as to the rights of the voting public of Michigan or Florida.

I will write HILLERY name on the ballot if it is not there for PRESIDENT 08.

Narrow minded bigots still abound in this country. I wonder why these uneducated idiots feel they are better than others. Can you explain that Hilliary?

Hillary is Republican, as was (is ) her husband. Obama is the first candidate since Carter who talks like a democrat.
With people like Clintons, America has only one party – republicans. And no wonder those who support her, will vote for McSame in November. She uses same arguments and plays the same cards like Bush did in 2000 to get elected. She supported attack on Iraq, she said she would destroy Iran... Democrat? I don't think so. Wouldn't be surprised if she goes on a ticket with McSame.

Will someone please just ask Hillary if she agreed to the rules? Did she not sign the same agreement that the other Democratic candidates did? I only wish I could change the rules the games I play when I am losing. I love to gamble!

Pardon my interruption.....
I'm looking at our candidates to see who is truly "presidential". I look at what they do along with what they say, how they run their campaign, how much respect are they showing for each other being both are DNC politicians....and for the DNC itself.

A lot of women support HIllary because what they feel she represents. However, there seems to be a willingness to turn the cheek when she's doing it in a way that at times really isn't very representative of women at all. Actually, a regression.

The answer is brighter than staring at the sun directly. Hillary quite simply put.... is not "presidential". She is not now, she will likely not be in 2012 or 2016. A LOT of the current chaos and friction that exist in this contest is because of the strategical efforts made by her campaign to take back what they carelessly lost to begin with. Unpresidential indeed.

So, these are the people Hillary Clinton is planning to use against Obama so that he may not be fit to contest? Hillary you need to be investigated the FBI needs to tap your phone conversation to determine who you are planning with to do away Obama so that you will steal it from him.

Shame on you disgracing yourself for race that is over, cryinf fowl whining everyday. How shameful it is to see well respected ex-President falling in a deep hole because of his embition to be co-president.

If they decide in Hillary's favor..can anyone tell me what would stop 49 other states from moving thier primaries to the same day as Iowa next time around?

The precedent is that rules do not matter. Iowa, CA, TX, NY..they will all vote on the same day next time.

The latest polls do show that Obama IS more electable that Hillary against McCain. If the Obama haters are going to quote "facts" I wish they'd get them right.

It is amazing to me to see the similarities between the Clinton supporters of 2008 and Bush supporters of 2000. After watching "Recount" I realize that FL's votes are once agian being manipulated. Why doesn't the press cover all of the Obama supporters that sat at home because their votes weren't to be counted. The Clinton's continue to claim the popular majority based on the inclusion of the Mich. vote, where Mrs. Clinton's name was the only prominant candidate on the ballot. Which was supposed to be an oversight. Once again many people sat home because they were told that their was going to be counted. We are sending terrible mesaage to our younger people and the rest of the world if the rules of the game are changed in the last inning so that one team can change the final score.

Hillary has caused so much dissention between the Democrats. This shouldn't be happening. Obama needs to forget her support because there is no way Hillary will support him or encourage her voters to do so.

Of course Obama is going to protest. He doesn't want Florida and Michigan votes to count. That way, he wins. If Florida and Michigan count, then he has to campaign longer because Hillary will be in the lead and that is something that Obama and his major supporter, Howard Dean doesn't want. Obama has yet to carry a major swing state so why does the Democratic Party want him on the ticket? At the rate things are going, John McCain will have the biggest blow out since Reagan's re-election in 1984.

The more that Hillary and Obama argue back and forth, conservative Democrats like me are starting to listen to John McCain. As a former Hillary donor, I have stopped my donations since CNN.com has reported on numerous occasions that she has already prepared an exit strategy. I can't support Obama because he is a political novice who is making all sorts of promises about change without any ability to follow through. That only leaves John McCain as a realistic alternative for 2008.

I see Obama a big time looser in Nov. beaten by John MaCain in Florida Michigan, ohio, Pensylvania, west verginia,Kentucky, and other Mid West state.

I'm not sure what is more disenfranchising: Not counting voters, or using voters to your own means.

Florida and Michigan, Clinton doesn't care about you, she only cares that you suit her current agenda.

Even with Florida and Michigan, the math still overwhelmingly favors Obama. Clinton is using these two states to keep the battle going and dividing the party because that benefits her the most.

Anyone show me math that Clinton will still win with Florida and Michigan....and not Clinton math (like her version of the popular vote). Math based in the reality 99% of people use.

This entire process just reaffirms the belief that the Clintons are all about themselves and not the Democratic Party. They have no intention about helping Barack or the DNC.

The whole WORLD is laughing about the clinton team and their supporters.

The y can't accept that it is over.

Just pathetic!!!!

Good luck to Hillary's supporters. You will need it. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do the math! If Barack Obama were to be awarded RIGHT NOW even 80 per cent of the delegates that he would have gotten, had Michigan and Florida not broken the rules, then he would already be the nominee.

If you wish to push this forward, then at least understand what you are doing. It is not helpful to insist that she is the "better candidate." She may be in your view, but for the sake of what you like to call "democracy," we should all realize one thing: Mr. Obama has more delegates, and will have more delegates at the end of this primary season - no matter what the outcome of the final three (or five) contests coming up.

Thank you.

Sammy
Boston, MA

ISN'T THIS ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS CAN DO. TURN OVER CARS SET THEM ABLAZE THEN LOOT A STORE. BEER AND WINE STORES NATURALLY. WITH AN EXCUSE THEY'LL GATHER ANYWHERE TO DEMOSTRATE. ALTHOUGH, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY DO.

HILLARY YOU NEED TO QUIT NOW EVEN THOUGH YOU COULD WIN. BUT AFTER CONSIDERABLY THINKING YOU DON'T NEED TO BE PRESIDENT OR VP OF THIS DISASTEROUS COUNTRY. LET IT FALL WITH OBAMA. IF PEOPLE ARE CRAZY ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR HIM LET THEM HAVE IT.

HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE HE CAN NOT WIN COME NOVEMBER. WELCOME TO ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WITH A DO NOTHING DEMOCRAT CONGRESS. NEITHER WILL HAVE MY SUPPORT.

haha Obama supporters can act as childish as Clinton supporters!

She is a trouble maker. She should get out of the race. It is over for her.

Veteran in Kansas his name is Howard Dean. And, Clinton and her supporters have done more damage than Obama ever could. Get real and stop the blame game. I admit the negative back and forth between the Obama campaign and the Clinton campaign needs to stop, but who really started the trash throwing??

Clinton and team have been down in the dumps sense Iowa.

FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN,

YOUR STATE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOUR STATE BROKE THE RULES, YOU NEED TO BE PROTESTING IN YOUR STATE. THAT IS UNFAIR!!! THE RULES ARE THE RULES, AND YOUR STATE IS NO BETTER THAN THE NEXT, SO YOU HAVE TO SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR THE ELECTION IN NOV. TO GET YOUR TURN. IF THEY LET YOU GET AWAY, THEN THAT WILL NOT BE A GOOD EXAMPLE, ON THE REST OF THE STATES. YOU BROKE THE RULES NOW SIT BACK AND BE QUIET!!!!

This just goes to show the Democratic party does not know the meaning of Democracy . . . "with liberty and justice for all".

McCain understands.

Vote McCain in 08 ! ! !

How can Clinton say she supports everyone having their voice heard and every vote counted – THEN turn around and point out entire states to be excluded from "every vote"?

Is Obama protesting the protest to seat Florida's delegates? Obama was campaigning in Florida all week last week. Why? Obama should not get 1 vote from the state of Florida. Choke it down and vote for John McCain, Florida. At least he thinks you count.

I am so sick of the Bushes and the Clintons. What you see is what you get and it is very unlikeable. Bill Clinton was macho-man in Pennsylvania, talking tough about not going on the field if you can't play with the men. His wife said "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen". We'll.... if the heat is too much, they already proposed the solution. Unfortunately we know from Florida and Michigan Senator Clinton does not keep her word: she agreed to FL and MI before she was opposed to FL and MI (or she agrees to what is in her self-interest). What happen to Rocky? Annie Oakley? The Whiskey drinker? Now she is playing the girl card – the boys are picking on me. Is that going to impress the Iranian President, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez? When she answers the phone at 3am is she going to say, remember "I am a girl" and so play nice?!

A good time for Hillary to have care was when the DNC Rules Committee made their decision. She went along with the rules until she realized that she couldn't win without Florida and Michigan. Before this it was all a "delegate race", now it's a popular vote race. Hillary you have no integrity – take your ball and go home and play with Bill.

Obama will lose a heck of a lot worse than Kerry did!!

May 27th, 2008 11:32 am ET
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It isn't going to matter…Obama is NEVER going to win!!

All the way to the convention Hillary!!

Millions of Hillary supporters will WRITE IN HILLARY or VOTE FOR McCain!!

First we had the Bush corrupt election win in Florida and now we have to watch the Clintons try to pull off the same thing. The Clintons are notorious for lying and deceiving when they are so bent on being on top.
When do they stop fooling the American people with their disgusting and disgraceful tactics. And please keep her out of second place, as VP. We want real change with Obama. Hill is old school and over the hill of shame. Bill and Hill please go home.

We are tired of reading and hearing that "Hillary won Michigan". How does won win an election when there were no other candidates on the ballot? If any group of voters should be enraged, it should be the democrat voters in Michigan and those in Florida who stayed away from the polls thinking their vote would not count!

Dan Lee May 27th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Thank You. Please continue to post those quotes. The Clintons are being just as disingenuous about MI & FL as Bush was about taking us to war in Iraq. Do we really need four more years of deception and lies?

Keep it up! Make that statement, fight amongst yourselves, belittle, berate and soon McCain will be President!!

Good work Democrats, you are doing McCain's job for him!

Counting out Hillary and her supporters... and using filthy language.

Sen Obama and supporters, do you think you are thinking democratic ?

I think that her and Bill should stay home this weekend and work on their conspiracy theories. After this is over with Hillary should get him to a doctor. Most people that spout conspiracy theories are usually extremely paranoid which means there is mental illness. This family is unbelievable! It is a good thing they have each other. I hope their insurances will cover it.

17 million voted for her during her primary run that much is true, however recent polls show that almost 3/4 of them no longer want her as the Dem Nominee and have stated that if their primaries held today they would have voted for Sen. Obama. The longer she campaigns the more support she loses.

Sherrie50

It would seem to me that you need to go to school and get educated enough to read and follow the facts which are that HRC is purposely trying to change the rules just to suit her. If Obama was behind and even suggested the same thing I could only imagine what HRC would come up with to ensure that didn't happen. After all the garbage she threw at him I could only imagine!! HRC and her cronies are the biggest hypocrits there are, they had the gall to say that Obama took her comments about RFK and twisted them out of context – LOOK at how she did it to Obama with the bitter comment! Didn't HRC say she was so experienced in Politics that she would be the best person to lead and if you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen???? She wines more than a spoiled brat child and I've seen plenty of those. All I can say is that I am so glad that the majority of the people on these blogs are not as gullible as you.

I am pretty tired of the Omama supporters making their man out to be a saint and above politics as usual. He is a politician just like any other and has used manipulative and deceptive tricks to mesmerize his youthful and naieve supporters and to criticize Senator Clinton. He has used the race card to make it "racist" to criticize him and used the gender card to dusmiss and downplay Senator Clinton. He and his supporters totally blew her innocent remarks about Reobert Kennedy and California way out of proportion in something reminiscent to the Swift Boat attacks on Kerry. With the exception of abortion rights and the war (admittedly 2 very big exceptions) Obama is as morally bankrupt as the Republicans. I feel very sorry for myself and all the other Democrats of integrity who will be left with the choice of voting for Obama or not voting. Wise up and give Hillary the nomination she deserves.

I do not understand how Hillary Clinton is going to be able to live with herself after allowing this thing to get so out of hand.

Clinton would not be able to change the rules in the General. Her conduct in this primary election have driven her negatives even higher. She even suggested killing the Democratic front runner.

I think the Obama campaign should forcefully say the rules are the rules. DEAL WITH IT. Instead they say..oh..we want the delegates to be seated too. This is BS.

Do you know the Clinton campaign insists that Obama get ZERO delegates and ZERO votes out of MI even though both Clinton and Obama signed a pledge acknowledging that MI would not count?

Seems like a back door way to keep Obama from campaigning in those states. We all know that when he campaigns he wins or narrows the gap.

The whole

democrats-against-obama.com

I would have voted for Biden (my top choice), Dodd, Clinton, Kucinich, Edwards or Gravel – But there is no way in h=ll i will ever vote for obama. And yes, i will vote mccain in order to vote against obama. Dems, you do NOT have to fall in line.

This really isn't an issue of Obama or Clinton – its an issue of Howard Dean and the DNC not having any foresight over their decision to unseat the Mich and Fla delegates from the convention. That penalty just made the overcomplicated system of the Democratic nomination process just more complicated. If the penalty was not made we'd have a nominee now and all this discussion over fracturing of the party would be moot. The clinton camp is riding the contoversy of "popular vote" but if the delgates counted – Obama would have campaigned, more people would have voted and he'd be the nominee.

Dean should be fired. The DNC should either go to an all primary system or copy the Republican's system.

The "count every vote" argument is flawed. What about the millions who stayed home because they knew their states delegates wouldn't be seated? If you're fighting to "count every vote" the only way to do that is to re-vote, which will not happend at this point in the game.

I didn't get to vote in the primary because i didn't register my party affiliation in time. My vote doesn't count. Neither should the states who knowingly disregarded the rules laid out for them.

How can these votes be considered since the majority of people did not vote because they were told not to only some did. Yes I agree to count the delegates but the votes to me would be unfair as not everyone got a chance to speak

This is a tragedy. Why are Obama supporters going to protest? Are they going to protest that 2 states SHOULD NOT have their voices heard? Haha. This is the most ironic twist of fate I have ever heard in my life...

HILLARY FOREVER.

All Hillary's supporters just simply make a contribution to her campaign and show you sincere support. Making a lot of noise is not helping her.
She is so desperateand is doing all she can to steal the nomination.
She is not the person I can trust and I will not vote for her even is she gets nominated.

Let's not forget, Clinton voted for this rule – now she wants it changed? What's next, she will want Canada and Mexico to be able to vote? Enough is enough – it's over!!

Paleo-conservative–been voting Dem for a while. If the Dems can't figure this out in an equitable way, I may just have to start voting 3rd party.

Hmm. Why did she (and Edwards and Obama) agree to the rules at the beginning?? Oh, and now that she's losing, AAAAALL the votes must count (!). She came out a week or so later and said that pledged delegates (OUR delegates– the ones that represent who we vote for) should be allowed to vote how they want to, not necessarily how the people voted. I thought all the votes should count? She can't have it both ways. What about the voters in MI and FL who did not vote because they knew it wouldn't be counted?? And how fair is it to claim victory in those states when the other major person running wasn't even on the ballot in MI???
I say seat those states' delegates 50/50 so that neither canidate has an unfair advantage. The people in those states should be yelling at their state govenments who decided to break the rules and hold their primaries early, not the DNC. If we don't "punish" them in some way (ie: the DNC keeps with the rules THAT EVERYONE AGREED TO), what's to stop 12 other states from doing the same thing 4 years from now?? The primaries are in the order they are because the states allowed to have primaries before super Tuesday are a sampling of the nation (ie: all kinds of different people live there, not just "white voters" or religous voters, or whatever). Oh, and I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING TO OBAMA IF HE WANTED TO CHANGE THE RULES, TOO!! I'm not a Hillary hater, but I think it's time for her to face the music.

This Michigan Democrat would like to be counted too.

My preferred candidate wasn't on the ballot,s o like many others I didn't go to the polls that day. Why would I expect it to matter when we were told it wouldn't? Hillary was among those who told us our votes wouldn't and shouldn't be counted.

Others I know of chose to vote in the Republican primary instead.

How can the votes be fairly evaluated in Michigan?

HILLARY IS BREAKING THE RULES. GO OBAMA. CLOSE THIS NOMINATION NOW.

This is non-sense. Where was these protesters when Hillary and Obama camps agree to the rules to strip Michigan and Florida delegates?

To An American in Canada for David:

You are delusional. Hillary will get creamed in the general election by the Republicans.

If you are a true Democrat, you will vote for the nominee, no matter who it is. WHAT KIND OF CRACKPOT DEMOCRAT ARE YOU?

I find it amazing that the Clinton supporters feel they are entitled to the Obama supporters votes – WHY SHOULD WE VOTE FOR HER WHEN YOUR CAMP WON'T VOTE FOR HIM?

CNN, I will vote for Sen. Mccain over obams every day of the week, and twice on sunday. Down with obamanation

Some sort of deal will be reached with the Florida and Michigan delegates........by the rules their should be no deals. It doesn't make any difference for Hillary.........even if she was to be awarded all the delegates........and that is not going to happen....she's out. If she were leading, this would be a moot point for her.........and it still is.

Do you people really believe that the citizens of Florida and Michigan votes should not count? I thought every vote was to count. It was a rotten deal that the politicians voted to rob them of their votes. The fair thing to do was to have a revote and the candiate with the most votes would be the winner. But as you know that idea was shot down by some people. I am a Clinton supporter, but If Obama wins the nomination I will vote for him. I would have to be crazy to vote for McCain as he is just an extention of George W (worthless) Bush.

It is fundamentally idiotic how you could write off a candidate because of the people who support him. GB you are the true idiot.

Clinton is the most divisive figure in the history of this nation. All these efforts are self-serving. If she were ahead of Obama, she wouldn't give a rat's a– about Florida and Michigan. She agreed to the rules at the beginning, confident that she would have the nomination wrapped up in New Hampshire. When things started hitting the fan, she suddenly became the advocate for those states.

Also, if Obama had won those states, I promise you, Hillary Clinton would be singing a totally different tune.

An American in Canada for David, I can tell you have that polygamist mentallity where you can't think for yourself. Your comment made no sense at all. Everybody who has a brain know what kind of woman Hillary is. She is the most polarizing figure in politics. She was fired from the White House when work there during wategate for lying and unethical behavior. It is so much information out there about her that disqualify her for being the leader of the USA. I can list them all but this posting would be way too long.

Shannon, you are so right about the hate filled Obama supporters. They are rabid, and are capable of anything, I believe. And they are supposed to be young, educated people. They may be young, but educated, NO. They are ignorant. Okay, modify, CNN

those hillary supporters that are protesting were paid to do it. ANYone who actually go out there prostesting for FL and MI are clear cut idiots. the lady you are campaigning or protesting for agreed with the rule last year when she thought was hier to the white house and now that she got knockout by the windy city storm, she wants you to go out there and protest. hillary has shown us that she don't care about anything, not you, not me and not even the great law of the USA.
AND to the ppl out there protest for OBAMA, way to stand up for what you believe, i wish it was here in nyc, i would be out there with you guys.
Hillary, your political career is over, the clinton dinasty is done........no chelsea don't even think about it, i say NO to you too.
FL, MI, i know how you feel but don't be fool cause ya don't want to to make history for the wrong reason. Granting hillary's wish will set us back.
PUT your egos aside and let's ride with OBAMA/SEBELIUS. Kathleen is better suited than hillary, do some research women is you are so pro hillary, SEBELIUS brings MORE to the table than her husband achievement which include a CIGAR and a STAIN blue dress.

PATHETIC HILLARY SUPPORTERS......CHILDISH BEHAVIOR........ IF MY CANDIDATE CAN'T WIN I'M TAKING MY TOYS (vote) AND GOING HOME. GROW UP !!!!!!!!!! HILLARY LOST, FAIR AND SQUARE, EVEN THOUGH SHE DID ALL SHE COULD TO SUBVERT THE PROCESS.

Hillary Dillary doc
the mouse ran up the clock
the clock struck 12
Time for you to bail
Hillary Dillary doc

Even if they count Fl and Mi, she can not win. As for fact, she may need more superdelegates if the delegate count is raised because FL and MI are included.

I just believe it's over, and I wish this in house fighting amongst Democrats would STOP!!

Here's a thought for the Hillary supporters. Start your own party so you can make or break any rule you choose without having to explain. Maybe the "Clintocratic party"

This is great. Hillary Clinton, in an effort to improve her own chances, is basically turning two states away from Barack Obama, thus damaging not only his chances, but the chances of the Democratic Party.

To all Michigan and Florida voters: understand that Barack Obama is on your side. He will stand up for the rules, and protect you from those who try to exploit, twist, and break the rules for their own personal gain.

Barack Obama will divide DNC.

Barack Obama will divide America.

Erick, Seattle,
Wholeheartedly agree.
It is their state officials that they should have been protesting against.
They should have challenged this ruling from day one. Instead they thought Hillary was the nominee and did nothing.
Poor planning, now leaving Obama with a mess to clean up in Fl.

By the way, just because a few p.o.'d Hillary supporters say Obama will lose Florida and Michigan, doesn't make it so. November is a long ways away. He has support in both states and can gain more and more yet with time.

One of the things that strikes me most about this campaign is the fact that the Clinton campaign along the way has discounted the caucuses and the "small" states while counting the "big" states that she won. She somehow figures that her votes in Michigan count, even though she earlier said that primary would not count along with Florida (where many voters stayed home due to the DNC sanctins). Throw in her continuous claims of being the "underdog"(after 20 years in the spotlight of Washington politics), the object of sexist attitudes, being "bullied by the boys" comments, etc. WHO would want a President who always has an excuse for something ? What is more pathethic is that her avid followers believe all this. SAD

Tit for Tat. What is fair for Hillary is fair for Obama. go Obama!!

One of Clinton's early jobs after getting her law degree was as a lawyer on the panel that was putting together a case against Nixon.She was fired from this job for lying and unethical conduct and the person who fired her said he could never recommend her for a government job again. among her lapses at this job were ignoring the established rules of the committee and trying to change them after they had been in place. it is time for the superdelegates to grow a spine and endorse . It sounds like Saturday could become a small scale Grant Park. Of course Hillary's Hounds from Hell will just blame that on Obama too.

You Go Obama Supporters, I Wish I could be there. But I urge all Obama Supporters that can make it to Go. Show the Clinton Machine/Manipulators that they can't BULLY the Obama Camp!!!!

you know that they had a high school on about improper dancing and high school students breaking the rules and teacher and head personal just watching WEAK_UP PEOPLE WHAT ARE TEACHING OUR KIDS RULES DON"T MATTER CHEATING IS OK IF YOU HAVE A BIG ENOUGH NAME NO VOTES FOR MICHIGAN OR FLOEDIA NEXT TIME THEY WIIL WOLLOW THE RULES AND HRC NEEDS TO STOP CRYING GROW UP HRC

HRC supporters you guys don't care what HRC does cry cheat steal to win you people are sick you and HRC need to go away

OBAMA 08

HI DNC,

I am a registered Republican in the state of NH. If Barrack Obama wins the DNC nomination, I will vote for him. If the wife of the an impeached president wins the nomination, I will vote for John McCain. Its' that simple. I think if you spend some time polling Republicans, you'll find the same story.

HERE IT IS FOLKS:
HILLARY AND OBAMA MUTUALLY AGREED THAT IF FLA/MICH MOVED UP THEIR PRIMARIES, THE VOTES WOULD NOT COUNT. OBAMA WENT ONE FURTHER AND NEITHER CAMPAIGNED IN FLA NOR WAS ON THE BALLOT IN MICH. HILLARY CAMP CONVOLUTING SITUATION WITH THIS DISENFRANCHISEMENT NONSENSE. SEAT THE DELEGATES, YES – BUT 50/50. WE FORGET THAT NOT EVERYBODY CAME OUT TO VOTE IN MICH./FLA., SO THINK ABOUT THOSE FOLKS (THEY FOLLOWED THE RULES) MICH/FLA COMMITTEES + HIL CAMP ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS FLAP, NOT TO CITIZENS THAT WERE FOOLED INTO VOTING EARLY NOR THE FOLKS WHOM PLAYED BY THE RULES AND DID NOT VOTE.

The bias of the media knows no bounds. As evidenced by the number of hate-filled Obama supporter's messages that have been "reviewed and deemed appropriate for posting" by CNN.

Where was the 13 paragraph article on Clinton supporters protesting the rules committee meeting a few days ago? Nowhere. But CNN's "get out the Obama vote" campaign is all over a posting on a pro-Obama web site and can't wait to give it national headlines.

Bill Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro were right. The people who are railing at them the most for saying it out loud are the ones who are the worst offenders when it comes to blindly ignoring Obama's total lack of qualifications in favor of his skin color. The truth is that the man has done NOTHING in his career but talk about doing something. He hasn't had an original thought or strategy in his life. And yet, the media is in LOVE with him because he is the first black man they can embrace for president and not vomit from the overt racism of the Jacksons and Sharptons. So we have covert racism instead being perpetrated by the supposedly impartial media.

It is pathetic! History is going to look back at this election and rightly charactorize the media as being biased and trying to influence the election of a president of the United States. Last time I checked, the American press was supposed to be impartial and REPORT, not SHAPE, the news. Maybe some Universities will be able to salvage something from this debacle ... a new course entitled "Journalistic Meddling and How It Ruined a Nation".

I must hope that the DNC rules committee will be fair to BOTH candidates –as fair to Obama as to Clinton. What Clinton advocates is unfair to Obama. Split the delegates down down the middle –with no advantage to the state party pols who let it happen. The delegates WILL be seated that way. Let the Dem party do what's right for the future –this mess can't be encouraged to be repeated.

I'm SO tired of hearing about how Clinton will "win" when all the Florida and Michigan delegates are seated. Not true.

There is an efford under way the get Hillary's name on the ballot in all 50 states, please join us. With elite left wingers on the left, and elite right wingers on the right we need Hillary for us here in the middle.

Obama people: you show your naivete here. Do not go like robots to DC and just because Daily Koz says so. To show up looks like this is important and makes you look like you are against seating MI and FL.

Let it go. The nomination is done. There is no upside to your making this a big deal. How stupid you novices are that you cannot think this through. Just like you jumped at the smell of red meat regarding Bush's statements about appeasement. Your reaction makes something news and gives people impression that this is something you are vulnerable about.

Why don't we just stick with the facts and the truth. It was not the Obama campaign that said Michigan and Florida should be stripped of their delgates. It was the DNC and Hillary and all the other candidates agreed to stick with the rules. It is unfair to try to change the rules at this time because it suits you. How can Hillary even suggest that these "delagates" be seated to her advantage when she knows that Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan? Hillary said it many many times that Michigan and Florida will not count. It is this type of dishonesty on her part that turns people like me, who were otherwise Clintons' fans off. If Hillary wants Florida and Michigan delegates to be seated, let her agree that they be split equally between her and Obama or have a revote paid for by her campign, Obama campaign and the DNC. Obama did not have the name recognition that the Clintons have going into the election. He did not campaign in any of those two states. So Clinton went into the Florida polls with an undue advantage. Imagine for one moment if Obama did not comapign in Iowa. Clinton and Edwards would have swept it. But see what happened where Obama got a chance to campaign. Look at the poll numbers in Texas back in December 2007. Clinton had a double digit lead over Obama. But look at the final votes after Obama had a chance to introduce himself to the voters. It was an even split. I dare say that if Obama had campaigned in Florida, Clinton may not have had the easy ride she had. Please let us be fair to all. Where have honesty and intergrity gone, Hillary?

Rules are rules. All the candidates agreed to take their name off the ballot in Michigan because Michigan went against the rules. Hillary left hers on after Edwards and Obama took theirs off. I personally know dozens of people in Michigan who did not vote in the primary simply because they were told it wouldn't count, and only one candidate was on the ticket, one they didn't want to vote for. Does anyone care about their votes? How can Michigan possibly count when Hillary supporters were the only ones who voted? I think she showed her true colors back then, when she said she would take her name off the ballot, but because of her hubris she kept it on, and now she wants it to count!

Hillary supporters are spouting the SAME tired, exhausted mantras over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.......

ok... by now.... we get it...... you will not vote for Obama under any circumstances because blah-blah-blah... and Obama's supporters are blah-blah-blah-blah.....

ok... we get it... stfu already.

You haven't added ONE "CREDIBLE" or LOGICAL argument in MONTHS.

Hillary supporters: Count all the votes!
Obama fans: Dont count all the votes!

I'm so disgusted with Hilary's unscrupulous efforts to win...against everything she claimed to stand for a few months ago. Everyone knows those "votes" can't count, although the delegates MUST be seated. Barack's way of winning has been to campaign hard for his votes. He did not get that chance in FL or MI. Back in January neither states knew much about him, while the Clintons are practically household names. It's totally unfair to simply count those votes as FL and MI's will. Let them vote again, now...I bet it'd be a whole different outcome.

You know what, this isnt the first time the Clintons have discarded something they didnt need, just like Fl and MI they didnt need them then so they swept them under the rug, reminds me of socks, everyone remembers socks right? the pretty little black and white cat they addopted during Bills presidency, is everyone aware that once they no longer "needed" socks to soften Hillarys image with the people, they gave her away when they left the Wh! And that pretty chocolate lab buddy that they had, he was killed by a car shortly after they left the WH, TO DATE NEITHER "PET" HAS BEEN REPLACED. Why? Like FL and MI they dont need them, If they suddenly "needed" another "pet" like they suddenly "need" FL and MI, I bet they would be making a beeline to the nearest animal shelter. If you dont believe me google socks and buddy white house pets.

Dumbest move yet by the Obamabots – picket the DNC and protest against the voters in Florida and Michigan. This move will accomplish three (3) things

1 It will alienate Florida and Michigan voters against Obama and ensure McCain wins both of these swing sates

2 It will galvanize the Clinto supporters against Obama with many more going over to McCain or staying home

3 It will give the White House to McCain if Obama is the nominee

And as a bonus 4th result: It guarantees a fractured Democratic Convention with warring campaigns and delegates and hopefully will cause Hillary to stay in.

Here is a thought – If Obama gets the nomination, Hillary should just adopt the Joe Lieberman strategy and run as an Independent.

the super delegates are either delusional or enjoy negativity
This could very well turn NASTY down there in florida and then where will your party be....how united will it look!!
these so called intelligent people need to take their heads out of the sand and step forward and end this NOW
Geesh I cant bear to watch another night where Queen EGO
comes out and declares victory for another useless primary that doesnt change the scenario one iota
She and Bill desperately need to get over themselves!!!

If the DNC allows the Clintons to steal this primaries, i can bet you that clinton won't win the general election-she's got too much baggage on her records dating way back from Arkansa-This two will lie by all means to futher their political goals.

Americans should think about this and make good and sound decission based on moral principles. Voting for Mrs Clinton based on emotions alone is deadly.

The Democratic Party shot itself in the foot when it allowed a woman & a Black man to compete against each other. They should have talked to Obama & told him his time would come, after he had more of a resume to present, & could back that up with some accomplishments. Hillary could easily have beat McCain, as we now know. The media has jumped on Obama's bandwagon because they mistakenly think this is the way to make up for any wrongs committed by America to Blacks. Blacks are voting for Obama because he's Black, period. No politician has the guts to say that, but it's so. Hillary is the most qualified person in the race, & if she's not on the ballot, half of the Democratic party will either stay home or vote for McCain.

Tony from Minnesota: I am wealthy, highly educated and am a Clinton supporter. Don't paint us all as uneducated with incomes under $50,000.

P.S. I'm from MInnesota, too!

I would feel betrayed by my party if my vote was not counted. The DNC will alienate alot of voters, those needed to win the general election. Alot of us have already been alienated by the DNC pushing to nominate the weaker candidate. Superdelegates, please rethink your votes or it's 4 more years of a republican whitehouse

great May 27th, 2008 11:43 am ET

ALSO BEFORE I AM A DEMOCRAT, I AM AN AMERICAN AND I WILL VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE THAT IS BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY!!! SCARE TACTICTS PAINTING MCCAIN AS A MONSTER WILL NOT DO.
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I want to remind GREAT and his Republican allies on this forum that in November we will be voting as Democrats and not as Obama and Hillary Supporters. For now we just want our candidate to be the nominee.
John McSame is not a monster. He just has it all WRONG when it comes to the issues. Remember when Joe Libermann had to rescue him when he did not know the difference between Hamas and Herzbollah? We cannot afford another Pres who does not understand the cultures of the middle east and has as a favorite song bomb, bomb, bomb Ir.. And who thinks our men and women in uniforms should get old before getting a bachelors degree? These are genuine concerns coupled by the fact that he does not understand macro economics and will have a hard time getting us out of this economic mess.

Talk about drowning, grasping at straws and crying for any kind of help. What a bunch of loosers! What are bus loads of more loosers going to proove?
The DNC knows very well that counting Fl. and MI would give Hillary an unfair advantage. The only fair thing to do is ackowledge them but don't consider them. Count them if you want but they can mean nothing in the grand scheme. There was no active campaign ran in those states because of the sanctions against them, at least not by one of the canidates who thought he was playing by the rules. So who knows how they would have turned out given a full blown campaign for their votes. END OF STORY

There is absolutely nothing wrong for both Clinton and Obama supporters to voice their views......isn't that what democracy is all about.

It is so unfortunate that so many Clinton supporters are turning their backs to the Democrat party. Obama has been respectful to Clinton. He has not pandered. He has maintained a "straight talk" approach. He has always wanted to see the Florida and Michigan delegates get seated (in a fair manner). Yet, there is so much spite in trying to somehow blame him for things that he is not guilty for.

For someone watching these primaries from an objective viewpoint, it is truly amazing to see so much emotion cloud the truth. Obama has stayed on the high road and don't punish him (or yourselves) for him winning the Democrat nomination!!

And to Anne from Canada

You are in the minority in Canada (take a look at the most recent polls). Most Canadians want Obama as the US President. Do your homework and don't misrepresent Canada!!!!

Trust me MI will go to Obama not Hillary. Too many people stayed out because we were told it would not count.......should have figured....if its not going the Clinton way......change the rules until they fit them.

This is a good thing to do. If Hillary and Bill Clinton think that the Democratic Party is their property, and that they can do anything they want. What makes it so difficult for them to accept defeat?

SHUT HILLARY UP..... she agreed to the FL and MI deals UNTIL she started losing. Now all she yaps about is POPULAR VOTE... that's not the way it works, you MORON

god what a whiny sore loser.... Hillary is all about changing the rules to favor HER.... what nerve

Florida Republicans were the only ones with power to change the election date.

You so called Democrats would rather fight with each other than the real culprits. It's called divide and conquer. McCain is counting on this. That's how Bush stole the election from Gore: Florida Republicans. If anything, Florida voter rights should be the issue on a federal level.

Democrats unite!!!

CORRUPTION, thy name is American politics

Hillary is nothing but DESPERATE.
Desperate person lies, cheats, fakes and does anything to achieve a goal and she tried it all.
We dont need an other 4 years of Lies and Deception.. Go away Hillary
OBAMA / AL GORE 2008

If Hillary has proven anything in this campaign it's that she is DISHONEST!! No matter what anybody on her side believes or how they think she will be the best candidate. Think about this one point...She has demonstrated her ability to spin and deflect obvious mistakes in her campaign for the past two years. WHAT DO YOU THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET FOR A PRESIDENT. SHE WILL LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO COVER HER @SS.SHE WILL JUST BE A DEMOCRATIC VERSION OF THE CURRENT BUSH ADMINISTRATION. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT AMERICA???

I am always amazed at the lack of factual information that the Obama supporters have. They keep spreading untruths via blogs. Hillary will be a major part of Obama's administration whether as VP or in another role. That's how it is. Learn to live with it or get out of politics!!

Obama took himself off the ballot in Michigan as part of hi Iowa strategy. Neither one campaigned in Florida although Obama did run ads which he purchased as part of a national campaign. So he did violate that part of the agreement.

Did you watch "Recount" on HBO? That's the real world of politics, unfortunately. Get with the program or get out!!!

As Harry Truman said, "if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen!"

Well if they don't come to a compromise to seat FL and MI, then that proves it's all part of a grand conspiracy as devised by Bill Clinton.

Remember when all else fails, blame the media and everyone else.

hey GB... don't you look silly now!

The Clintons will Lie Cheat and Steal to get what they want. Not what I am looking for in a President.

All of the clinton supporters need to educate themselves and not just listen to the clinton propaganda. Where were all of you who are shouting for every vote to count when she lost Iowa? All of you were screaming at Edwards to get out because he was "stealing votes from hillary!" and "costing her the election." You had no care for counting the votes of the Edwards supporters. You even used the same old line that he was "unelectable." Now you all are saying the same thing about Obama. There was a plan to recount Florida, but your girl hillary opposed it. Why? Because it would have allowed for a statewide revote. However, she did not want that, she only wanted to allow the people who had originally voted to revote, thus insuring she had a better chance to win again. What about the votes of those people who had stated home and did not vote because they thought their vote would not count? What about their voices? Why does she, and you, oppose letting them revote? She is the one who opposed a revote. Think about that. Remember, you are counting on her winning WV and KY, but those states have not voted for a democrat in the GE for over 20 years. Why do you think she can win them now? What has changed to make her suddenly acceptable in those states that they will vote for her in the GE? Do not claim that she will win CA and TX because Obama won TX, and CA has continuously gone democratic, NY and NJ and most of the northeastern states also. The dems have lost Florida twice now, so why do you think she will win it back? Ohio went rethuglican also last election, so why will it change now? The rethug party is very dissatisfied with their candidate and many say they will stay home, but if hillary does get the nomination, their hatred of everything clinton will bring them out again. Remember the old lady at the mcsame event who asked him"How do we stop the B***h? Please realize they do not love her like you do and would rather hold their noses and vote for mcsame than allow the clintons back in the white house. So much for your electability argument . Think of what you are saying and writing before it is too late.

I cannot believe the straight face Clinton democrats have when they twist the truth. It sure ain't easy being sleazy!

1) Popular Vote: Please define popular vote for me you wicked people. Does that include the caucus states and if doesn't why? And if it does how did you come up with the tortured math to count people individually? Aren't we supposed to fair to everybody? We all want to sit MI and FL thats fine with everyone, but talk about counting popular votes? Are you guys that gullible? The only POPULAR VOTE THAT COUNTS MUST INCLUDE CAUCUS STATES!

2) ELECTORAL Votes: Can any one here show me any current poll that has Obama losing any of the popular democratic states to McCain say CA? NO! So look at the swing states in play that Obama has opened. Get ready for a new MAP.

3) FL & MI : How can HILLARY so openly and shamelessly FLIP FLOP by SAYING "Those States don't Count", making a 360 degrees turn around and make the guy playing by the rules look so bad. Only Hillary can pull it off and her ignorant supporters follow like a blind sheep still dreaming of the 1990s that was good by dot.coms and not any specific Clinton Policy because that was when they started to ship our jobs outside unfairly without strong rules.

YOU GUYS ARE HYPOCRITES AND DESERVE TO HAVE MCCAIN IN OFFICE.

Maybe its good Obama came on the scene so your blind hate for a black man will make you press the wrong button and regret your actions years later. The truth is that if Obama does not win the Presidency it means this country will go down under another republican administration. What a concept!

Obama's campaign is running scared, trying to declare victory, because they know there is a certain tape lurking that could be released about Michelle.

Nonetheless, it makes him unelectable for November, even if he wins the nomination!

Poor Dems have been sucker punched again! They deserve it.

WHAT PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND HERE IS THE ONLY REASON THAT OBAMA IS WINNING THIS IS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT COUNT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA THE TRUTH IS THAT ONLY PEOPLE HE HAS THE POPULAR VOTE FROM IS AMONG BLACK VOTERS WHICH IS TO BE EXPECTED. I THINK THAT HILLARY WILL PROVE HER POINT AND SHE WILL BE THE NOMINEE ALL THESE PEOPLE JUST LISTEN TO MUCH TO THE MEDIA AND DONT KNOW THE WHOLE PICTURE ONLY WHAT THEY ARE TOLD EVERYONE KNOWS THAT OBAMA CAN NOT WIN AGINST MCCAIN AND ILL BE THE FIRST TO MAKE SURE OF THAT BY CASTING MY VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF HILLARY LOSES BUT I DONT THINK SHE WILL THEY ARE JUST WAITING TO DECLARE HER THE WINNER DONT YOU THINK IF THE SUPERDELAGETS DIDNT KNOW THAT OBAMA CNT WIN THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY WENT FOR OBAMA? THEY HAVENT BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHO CAN REALL BEAT MCCAIN AND ITS NOT OBAMA HAVE FUN WITH ANOTHER 4 YRS OF BUSH IN OFFICE IF SHE LOSES

Hiliray supporters LET IT GO! FL & MI were both warned not to move there primaries up & they did so anyways. everyone else followed by the rules & now that she is desperate for the votes she wants them to be counted?! come on now. im 17 & cant even vote & i know that this is DUMB. OBAMA 08!

Clintons did their best to whine, lie and change the rules that they first agreed to, but unfortunately for them the fat lady will sing next Tuesday. I hope Hillary concedes defeat in a graceful manner and doesn't whine about popular votes, Florida and Michigan. Obama beat her fair and square, no more excuses.

What signs will the Obama cultists carry? "DON'T count all the votes?"

Or will they just keep shrieking "Rules are rules!!!" as if all the voters are children who need to be punished because of something Republicans did?

P.S. CNN, why are you sitting on scary hateful ugly Michelle's latest video? Waiting until every other network covers it and it's all over the Web so much that you can no longer ignore it just like you did with Reverend Wright?

Well if it is good for the goose then it is good for the gander...............

50/50 split of delegates in both states.( delegate total count not changed from 2026)...... and no popular vote count...........she won in FL on name recoginition...........who the heck dont know the clinton name.

Tis a shame Obama supporters have to counter suit the Clinton supporters.... This is due to Clinton wanting the rules changed mid game.................so sad

Sen Obama will be the partys Nominee..he earn it fair and square

Hillary's campaign is $20 million plus in debt and protesting makes no sense. Put your money where your mouth is if you're so supportive of Hillary continuing. It takes money and management to run a campaign and Hillary has failed in both.

Hillary Clinton is shouting from the roof tops that the Michigan and Florida delegates need to be seated because she won the contests, but how can a person win if they were not to have their name on the ballot anyway. Wasn't she in violation of DNC rules. She does have a lot of nerve.

Shannon, you have your Bush tactics mixed up. You see there is a concept called fairness. That is, the vote needs to be fair. Only George Bush and I guess Hillary feel it is fair to count the Michigan vote where Obama's name was not on it. That is because it suits Hillary just fine. Florida is a similar problem. Everywhere Obama campaigns, he ususally improves his position. If he campaigned in Florida, Hillary would probably have had a narrower victory. So if you want to count these, split them 50/50 because the voting process was not done fairly. Heck give Hillary a 10 point victory in FLA, which she declined. Obama still wins. Hillary just wants everything her way. It doesn't work that way.

Does the road to the white house go thru Puerto Rico now, you nut case? Yes I mean you Hillary.

Hillary has single handed DESTRYOED the party!

Obama camp is the one being divisive. Our contry has 50 states, not 48, not 57, but 50. Disenfranchise Florida voters and see how this all will play out. I guess so much for 'unifier'. Obama is just like any other politician.

McCain has begun hiring trolls to cause trouble for the DEMS. They paTROLL, sites saying all kinds of nasty things and acting like Hillary supporter or Obama supports. I have something to say to you trolls. NOT THIS TIME! NO, NOT THIS YEAR!

OBAMA08'

And his name was on the ballot. Get it?

Hillary is just plain dangerous. She lies to the camera and to her supporters with such a straight face that it is bordering on psychpathic. The fallout may be devastating to the country (i.e lead to McCain), but Hillary seems not to care. The problem is not her smarter supporters...they know that this is a political game, and will rally behind Obama. The problem is that her less knowledgeable supporters are bound to believe all these hysterics, and blame Obama, leading to a McCain victory. This is really sick.

when will you Obama supporters WAKE UP!!!!!! Obama is full of EMPTY promises and disillusion, no substance (except nicotine and whatever drugs he had taken as a youth), no experience, loves his reverend and never disavowed him until he got caught in the hate mongering episode. remember it wasn't Hillary that pulled her name off the ballot it was Obama's. let go to the superdelegates. he'll have the delgates, she'll have the popular vote, momentum, swing states, and more dems will vote for her than they will him.

Another thing. it kills me to read the attacks from Hillary's supporters and Obama's supporters. Can we all just sit back and hush up until May 31st? Blaming eath other's camp is not going to resolve anything. Let the DNC meet and decide what's best the solution.

If the rules comittee allows clinton to steal the nomination you can count blacks out of the democratic party for a generation. Blacks have supprted the democratic party for years through good and bad times all we expect are for the rules to be followed as explained to both candidates before the primary began. No matter what happens in the general election he beat the clinton machine and that cant be ignored.

Obama! Take a Hyke, Hillary Clinton is not a Byke... Find yourself some other transport, to the White-House... She can do it, without you...

Man anyone who makes gambling bets on elections is missing a few screws.

Obama supporters are hoping for a victory next week.But she will be pushing to get the finish line moved out even more.She is not going to accept defeat.

Nothing even remotely close to Senator's service to YOUR country for more than 35 years, I'll bet!

How slight of a advantage? I want the caucus votes included also. The MI vote was all off key because people had already voted absentee and voted in a way they would have wished to change. We are certainly watching to really see the fairness in this situation. And not the slant toward the Clinton machine.

And all this non-sense about Hiliary "taking care" of the people is foolish. Hiliary is taking care of Hiliary. She didn't care about MI or FL when she was in the lead. She verbally mentioned that MI and FL doesn't make a difference for her. So all this jazz about Obama cheating is non-sense.

Hiliary, you made your bed..now lie in it.

What message does it send to our citizens when politicians change the rules in the middle of the game? If you don't like the ref's call, just ignore it and play the game your way. What happened to integrity?
Also, the party rules say that the candidate with the most delegate votes is the winner, not the one who has the most popular votes.
And what about the people in MI and FL who stayed home and did not vote because they understood the votes would not count? How do they get their voices heard at this point? Or do we only count the votes of those who ignored the rules?
Neither state government would approve holding a second election, so why is the lack of a re-vote blamed on Obama?

Obliterate Iran?
This woman is crazy, that means kill every man woman and child in that country. She is a nut case and needs to be away from power.
What the Hell is the matter with her?
Put her in a stray jacket already.

RE: Natasha/Supporter of Democrats
YOU DISGUST ME
THE 90'S, UNDER CLINTON,WERE ONE OF THE BEST ECONOMYS THAT WE'VE HAD.

YOU DEFEND OBAMA SO MUCH AND YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM.

UMMMMM....I wonder why Obama, his campaign and his supporters

are so afraid to have Mi. and Fl. votes counted?

Could it be that they know they will loose?????

Your all blaming Hillary because you don't want to admit the truth.

Who cares who agreed to what back then. This is now and of course
Obama was happy that Fl and Mi wouldn't count, this way no
egg on his face.

Hillary or McCain 08

In Michigan, Obama's name was not on the ballot. That is simply unacceptable and everyone knows it. It is not democracy, it does not represent fairness.

Florida is negotiable, though they may lack effort to do anything about Florida because of the simple fact that Hillary didn't care at all until it was clear she wasn't winning. It is also an issue that her campaign advisor made the rules that they not count before he joined her campaign, and now is not willing to follow his own rules.

Sorry guys, it's waay too much fuzzy math and way too little ethics in order for you to get what you want.

All the world's a stage....and America is about to fall off of it if this election doesn't turn the tide.

I am a republican . I have learned to respect Hillary Clinton for her tenacity and courage.

She has been a victim of her own invention -p olitical correctness,

I believe she has not been treated fairly by the Obama backers , our society disallows speaking some truths this is unhealthy in determing the true characters of the candidates or issues facing the future of our republic.

We need bold leadership in today's world environment not APPEASERS.

I propose a Mc cain /Hillary ticket!!!!
frank fato

I will be there for CLINTON

I am CERTAIN that OBAMABOTS will try to bully us, as always

I am tired of OBama supporters' rudeness!

They will not bully me!

I have a feeling this could get ugly

Someone explain how throwing a day long protest against the DNC can bring the party together? I think Hillary and her supporters need to take a step back and look at what they are doing. How can you fight to include Florida and Michigan's votes but not include the votes of the caucus states. So it's okay if she wins without the caucus state's votes? How does her winning the popular vote include their right to have their votes heard? I can't believe people actually go along with this?

How is it possible that everyone (Obama supporters, Clinton supporters, the media, etc.) does not agree that counting the votes of a state where one candidate wasn't on the ballot is absurd. I can't believe Clinton supporters aren't telling her what a stupid argument this is. I don't care how desperate you are. He wasn't on the ballot. He wasn't on the ballot. He wasn't on the ballot. How many times do you need to hear it.

This is getting pretty silly. The next thing you know the Clinton's will want the Constitution changed so we can have two presidents at one time, which we will have if she wins. Please, Please, Please, Senator Obama, do not pick her as your running mate because we will then have THREE presidents.

It is so curious that they were not talking about seating delegates or storming the Bastille when she was behind but now that she is losing the rules are being changed. I am starting to believe the things Republicans say about the Clintons: they are drunk with power and will stop at nothing to get and keep it. I bet you if she wins Chelsea will be in the cabinet. Probably Secretary of keeping Bill's door locked.

FLORIDA AND MICHIGHAN CANT SAVE HILLARY. WRITE IT DOWN.

OBAMA08.

Florida and Michigan CHOSE to hold their primaries before the agreed date. Hillary Clinton agreed to it, signed a document, and went through all the motions. The only reason she's fighting for Florida and Michigan to be seated is because she wants to prolong this fight as long as she possibly can. She wouldn't care a hoot for those voters if she was not losing.

She's so desperate she's talking about changing the rules on the worst possible occasion. She's doing all she can to upset the GE, adn, probably, try to do all she can to make sure McCain wins (one term only, and then she will be able to charge into the white house again). Also, first she was all for the superdelegates, now she's all for the popular vote.

Is this what America wants for president? Somebody who'll say anything, regardless of what she's said before just to get her way? That's scorched earth policy...

Google Paul vs. Clinton, find out what liars and cheaters this woman and her husband really are. They're going to try and cheat their way into the Whitehouse. First she agrees that the votes won't count because she thought she had it in the bag, when she found out that not everyone loves her like she thought they did, well now she wants those votes.

DEAR DNC,

WHY EVEN MAKE RULES?!! If you go back on them, how will you be taken seriously the next time you TRY to impose them? It's like dealing with children....and Hillary is the whiniest and most spoiled.
How you handle this will set a BIG example to the party.

Best option, split each state's the delegates in half for both Obama and Clinton....so they're seated.

It's just ridiculous that she's promoting and even getting away with a protest after AGREEING to the terms. I would say the same about Obama if the situation were reversed, but i know that he's not the type of human being that would act like this. It's strictly a Clinton thing. It's their warped, high-minded, sense-of-entitlement and mega egos that are gonna make this party look like a joke and ruin the chances of another woman ever running for president again in our generation.

SPLIT THE VOTES!!!!

@great

No one needs to "paint McCain as monster." He's doing that all by himself. Have you been paying attention to what he says and does? Have you read his Issues Platform? We are on the cusp of sending this country reeling back in time and stature versus moving forward as a great world leader once again. McCain and Hillary are both "the past.

All the way to the Convention H.R. Clinton and then all the way to the White House.

If, the DNC gives Obama the nomination, he will never win the General Election.

W,e the Clinton supporters suport her and only her, we will never vote for Obama, the incompetent and inexperienced upstart from South Side Chicago.

H.R. Clinton, she will be President, she is a woman of substance, intellect, savoir faire and solutions.

Over 20 million citizens support H.R. Clinton as the nomoniee for the Democratic leadership and she will win the General Election.

Kathy-Fla

Instead of being so upset at Obama and his supporters perhaps you and your fellow Floridians should direct their anger at your State goverment which for the 2nd straight Presidential Election has managed to botch your voting process. Perhaps you may even want to direct whatever is left over at yourself for voting these people into office. I know taking responsiblity for ones actions can be a bitter pill to swallow but take it with water, I've found the truth goes down much easier that way.

this just shows you how greedy the clintons are! If they don't get their way they whine. Gee when the rules were laid out they all agreed to them When Michigan and Florida decided to break the rules then their votes don't count plain and simple. Who should complain should be the democrated voters in thoses two states for breaking the rules. You don't win the popular vote in the primaries you win it in the national election. I think America is tired of the BUshes and the clintons and these two families should let someone else play.

I understand the Clinton supporters want to include MI and FL, but their arguement is baseless. I do hope the DNC comes to a resolution soon, however, I wouldn't be mad if nothing happens at all. Plain and simple, the rules are the rules.

At one time,long, long ago in a different time I supported Obama. Today, I do not like his supporters, I do not like the tone he has taken with voters, I do not like the politics that he has adopted for his most vocal supporters. What I dislike the most however, is the leadership of the DNC in John Dean who is about to show us how to lose back to back elections, neither of which should have been lost.

Go Obama 08 and watch McCain win.

Obama wasn't on the ticket in Michigan – and he didn't campaign here (or in Florida for that matter...)

The Michigan primary was farcical, and so are HRC's crazed ranting about us being disenfranchised. We were screwed by our Democratic reps when they decided to move the primary up. HRC didn't care then, she just wants to claw her way to power any way she can: including defrauding the caucus states, and saying MI's primary was fair/we want her to win when there was no choice!!!

I doubt that you could rub shoulders with Hillary Clinton, who has served YOUR country for more than 35 years. And, yes, it was SHE who first battled for universal healthcare - decades ago! Who has fought for women and children around the world. And those of us who support her remember that! Your candidate doesn't even come close!

CAN WE CHANGE THE RULES OF A BASEBALL GAME IN THE 9TH INNINING,BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING???That's exactly what Hillary is doing!!I was first for her,but now I feel really upset for the things she's been doing!!!If she were winning she wouldn't speak about it!!!NOW I LOVE OBAMA 2008 !!He is the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The alternative is clear.

Obama will prevail.

Obama/Webb 08/12

I am amazed on a daily basis at people who keep acting like Obama does not want the votes in FLA and MI to count...like he is somehow against their right to vote.....the reality (which I know is hard to see, when you are too busy drinking the kool aid), is that all of the candidates signed up to the idea and FLA and MI would not count since they violated existing rules (by the way, rules put in place by Clinton supporter Terry McAuliffe). Obama's name was not on the ballot in MI, and they agreed not to campaign in FLA. Now, all of a sudden, when Hillary is behind...she panics and starts talking about disenfranchised voters? what about all of the Obama (and Hillary) supporters who stayed home because there were told the vote would not count...what about them....and what about all the rest of us here in the other 48? are we not important? our voice has been heard...we want Obama...get used to it.

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The Democrat National Commitee will "flip-flop" and let Rodham-Clinton have her way.

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Hillary is a nut case. She really is. Go hang out with Rupert Murdoch Hillary, go hangout with Richard Mellon Scaife Hillary, get out of town already. Nut case.

i DO BELIEVE THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF OBAMA'S & HIS SUPPORTER'S ARROGANCE. THEY HAVE PUT UNDO PRESSURE ON SUPERDELEGATES, BLACKMAILING THEM INTO SUBMISSION. FOR THAT REASON, I'VE LOST RESPECT FOR MY PARTY, & PLAN TO PROTEST BY VOTING FOR MCCAIN, IF HILLARY IS NOT ON THE BALLOT.

sherri50, you are delusional. Obama has been kind and generous when speaking of HRC... Obama supporters haven't been the ones saying they'll vote McCain rather than vote for the actual winner of the Democratic primary.

When someone says HRC has changed her mind about who, what or when a vote is important or doesn't count, that's not a lie. It's the truth. It's a fact. It's not hating HRC, it's stating the truth.

When someone says HRC lied about sniper fire in Bosnia, that's the truth. She even (finally) admitted to lying. It's a fact.

When someone says she agreed to not campaign in FL or MI and that the delegates and votes there wouldn't count, THAT is a fact. That she later decided to change her mind (flip-flopping) doesn't make any difference about what it the truth.

None of that is mean. None of that is a lie. None of that is Hillary-bashing. She panders to the "woman" vote, then crys "sexism" when she loses. You don't get to have it both ways.

Be bigger than yourself, all of you. No one wants another 4 years of Bush - how the hell could you EVER vote for that just because your candidate didn't win the Dem. primary?

Are you crazy?

Hillary got 50% of the vote in Fl and 55% in Mi. Give them to her and give Obama the rest. She still will be behind!!!

This has gotten completely out of control. Someone needs to step in and stop this!

Wow! I’m at loss for words.

I must say I am truly disappointed in my former President. It’s one thing for a weirdo talk show personality to make these suggestions, but the person who is still the most popular living\former American President, this just blows me away! The Clintons have been the face of the Democratic Party as long as I a 35 year old can remember, and are arguably the most powerful political couple in the world. Just being a Clinton comes with connections and loyalties that no other politician could muster. So how does the Democratic Party, or the majority of it as Bill suggest just turn on them. At this point I believe they may be crossing the line of damaging the inevitable nominee, the Democratic Party as well as the Clinton legacy. At some point, it must be Good of the Country over Good of the Clintons!

Dear "Great," who wrote, "Putting your so called "rules" aside for a minute please, ..." No, that's the point. One candidate is winning by the rules, and the other is clearly losing - so she wants to change the rules. If I can't trust HIllary Clinton to play by the rules during the primaries, how can I trust her to play by the rules when she's the president? The answer is, I can't. We already have a president who makes up new rules whenever it suits him, and look where it has gotten us.

I began this political season with a great deal of respect for Hillary as a trail-blazer for women. However, as she has increasingly run as an appendage of her husband and employed strategies that have given the Republicans their fall campaign ads (such as she and McCain are ready to lead while Obama has a speech, etc) and shown a dark, selfish, dishonest side, I feel totally disappointed. It is sad to see the depths to which she has stooped to further her own ambition at the expense of the Democratic party, not just Obama but the down-ticket candidates as well. This harm is what the Obama supporters and ALL offended Democrats should demonstrate against on May 31. This is about the good of the party, not Hillary.

Anyone have information on when and where? I'm coming to support Obama and all I can say is:

LLET'S GET READYY TOOO RRUMBBBLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

De ja vu(circa election 2000) - people protesting outside when votes are being counted inside. Why are we letting Hillary bring down the party to the Republican low that brought us the worst American presidency in history? Thank you, Hillary, for giving fuel to every person who ways a woman can only win when the rules are changed. As a white woman who once supported Hillary, I can only vote for Mr. Obama due to the respect, integrity and forthrightness that his campaign has brought him to the brink of his well-deserved and fair fought victory. Let us move into the 21st century (finally) with hope and our democratic dignity as AMERICANS first, in tact.

i pray for obama to win and aftre he win let him take clinton as a deputy sothat they win the election

THANKS FROM MICHAEL DANIEL KANO NIGERIA

Afraid of the results in Florida and Michigan! Anyone so stupid as to withdraw his name from the ballot deserves nothing more than defeat!

Hillary should not be punished for Obama's actions in Michigan nor should millions of voters be punished and humiliated because the DNC made a big deal out of changing dates! This is not the role of the DNC, alienating voters and not respecting Americans right to vote and have their votes counted.

Obama lost Florida and Michigan and the numbers are there! Let them be counted or let's take away two of his biggest wins and see where that puts him in the race!!!

Hillary 2008, 2012.

This country cannot afford another President wearing training wheels. Have we not learned our lessons from Bush II?

Wake up America!!!!!!! This country needs a strong leader and she is Hillary Clinton.

.......a message to the Obama nuts........if the DNC hands over the nomination to BO because Dean, Kerry and Pelosi know they can control BO's puppet strings............

my write in vote will be for Hillary Clinton!!!!!

To The DNC, please stand by the first ruling, I understand that the people in flordia want their votes to count and it is not their fault, however once an agreement has been made, it should stick, and if anything occurs again I will say, split the votes between the two, and every delegate or super delegate from those states need to support the candiate to which they are chosen to support in the split, It is not enough just to split the vote if the delegates don't support that person, this way everyone can make their votes count

I am an Obama supporter who would vote for Hillary without hesitation if she were the nominee and deplores the ugly name-calling she has had to face on the campaign trail. I can't believe that some Clinton supporters would vote for four more years of Republican rule (Roe v. Wade, health care, Iraq) simply to stick it to Obama. Say it aint so.

I was told that the Obama campaign did not want people counter-protesting. I was lucky enough to get a spot in the meeting, but I was told the Obama campaign did not want people outside counter-protesting. Can anyone confirm whether or not this is true?

I don't blame the candidates for FL's delegates not being seated. I blame our state party leaders who never took the DNC's threat seriously and can be seen on YouTube laughing on the floor of the FL House at the threat of not having our delegates count.
What I DO oppose is Hillary first agreeing to abide by the DNC rules and then changing her mind when she started losing. That shows a real lack of character.

well H. Clinton is having problem gaining the hearts of the people especially places she thought she could, and why in this world is she asking for a vote in Florida, when she was against it initially? also here racial strategy of campaign, is a mess and who does she think would vote her, only the whites? she really needs to give it up, and stop dividing the democrats.

Those 17 million votes that Clinton is touting are bogus. If there is a re-vote now she will loose every blue state including CA, MA and probably even NY. Everyone has seen her now and knows how lowly the Clinton politik machine is.

Florida should stay counted as is since neither campaigned there. Michigan should be split 50/50. End of story. I support either Democrat b/c their policies are basically the same. However, you Obama folks are quite nasty with the personal attacks on Hillary. Who cares. Obama will win so shut up.

How can people say Obama does not want the FL and MI votes to count? He will win anyway. The reason as I have read that his campaign did want the re-vote was because the people who were donating their money for this so called re-vote are all of the Clintons supporters. Does anyone think this might be a problem? Considering what is being said now, I, for one think it would not have been the correct way. If outsiders donated the money, maybe it might have worked

They should protest. How can you count the votes in those States when Senator Obama was not even on the ballot in one of them? The only fair way is to hold a revote. I'm sure thousands of Obama voters did not even come out to vote for him because they thought it would not count. It just shows you what the Clintons are capable of.

THE CLINTONS – The Most disgraceful, disgusting names in politics.

The DNC rules need be followed. Hillary should stop trying to force the DNC to rule in her favor. Superdelegates have a responsibility and that is to the Party and not a Candidate. Hillary does not have the foresight and that is why she underestimated Barack by thinking the race will be over on Super Tuesday. She is paying for her misjudgement and instead of being gracious about it she becomes obsessed with this notion that she is entitled to be the nominee.
This notion of Electability by Hillary is BS. If the nominee is chosen by Electability then why are we campaigning and voting? Does Hillary think that the nominee will be chosen like the Catholics choose the POPE? All she is doing is manipulating her suppporters into thinking that the process is unfair to her. I hope she is honest to accept that she helped set the rules that she is flip-flopping on today.
So far Obama is getting the Votes and the rules will be respected.
How can Hillary defend our constitution when she does not respect the rules?

I will vote for Sen. Mccain over obams every day of the week, and twice on sunday. Down with obamanation

Notice how the DNC rules committee have been quiet? That's because
they don't have to say a word, just stick to the rules. The most that the
DNC will do is a 50 / 50 split. They are not going to give Hillary the
Michigan votes when her name is the ONLY one on the ballot. That is
laughable and reminiscent of a medieval soviet election. The DNC
has made it very clear publicly that they are not going to let the Clintons
dictate the rules to their advantage. That being said, this is a free country,
so they can protest until the cows come home.

CLINTON is out to destroy any chances of Obama being elected so she can do a "i told you so". if the DNC does not live up to the rules and the backroom cigar smokers get under the table deals to put clinton in, i am going to do all in my power to get obama to run as an indepedent. his ability to raise money from the little guy would work. clinton is one ugly BXXXX who lied about sniper fire to get attention, race card to get white vote and cause racial tension in WV, poor little woman to get votes, and the beat goes on. I AM NOT GOING TO EVEN DRIVE THROUGH ARKANSAS ANYMORE WITH THESE MONSTERS OF THE BUSH/CLINTON ROYALTY TAKING OVER AMERICA. overstated???? how about millions off NAPTA related parties and "i knew it was wrong the day we signed it"??? GO AWAY.

The Obama supporters are actually going to Washington to support NOT counting the votes of Florida and Michigan? It is EXACTLY this type of behavior that caused me to distrust Obama and no longer support his bid. Plain and simple: if you voted for Obama and your vote was discarded, and Hillary took the nomination, how would you feel? Think about it.

Here again the Clinton's show there arrogance. Hillary, please let it go. You and your sorry family are not entitled to the Whitehouse!

Superdelegates, please put an end to this mess. Hillary is attempting to create decisiveness in the democratic party for her own selfish reasons.

She agreed to the sanctions on FL & MI from the beginning. They should not be seated. They knew the consequences when they attempted to move up their primaries. There was no secret there.

GOBAMA08

On this double edged sword which is above Clinton and Obama, the issue that counts is the disfranchisement of those who voted and their votes won’t count as well as those who never voted based on the knowledge their vote will not count to begin with.

The Clintons are closet Republicans and always have been.How come all the racists dont just raise their hands and say they are racists?Its because they are gutless cowards like Lush Limbaugh and his pinheads.

you clinton supporters are something else..she lost and she's bringing the whole party down..she want be able to run in 2012...all of you ladies get over it..she's a looser just like bill

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THEY SHOULD DIVIDE THE VOTES 50/50 BUT SEN.CLINTON DOES NOT WANT THIS SHE WANTS IT ALL.THAT IS NOT THE THING TO DO WHEN SEN.OBAMA'S NAME WAS NOT EVEN ON THE BALLOT IN MICHIGAN.THE WITCH AND ALL HER COHORTS ARE LIARS ABOUT THE HONORABLE THING TO DO.HOW IS TAKING ALL THE RIGHT THING TO DO.I SEE SHE WENT TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY IN PUERTO RICO IF SHE WANTS TO CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS MAYBE SHE SHOULD STAY IN CHURCH AND STUDY THE TEN COMMANDENTS UNTIL THEY STICK THEN MAYBE SHE WILL DO WHAT IS THE FAIR AND HONORABLE THING.

Support John McCain a moderate and sensible Republican in 2008. All Democrats have lost their way, are bitter and divisive and will not serve America well.

Be sane and vote McCain.

It's really quite simple. This entire primary season was designed by Clinton supporters to get her the nomination quickly. Obama played by the rules and is winning. Clinton is losing and now wants to change those rules. As twisted as it's become, there's something amusing about watching Ickes, McAuliffe, et. al. ferociously advocating the need to undo what they did to begin with. Logic, we've all seen, is not one of the Clinton campaign's strong suits.

Lord have mercy. This is really quite simple – Florida and Michigan voters are the only ones responsible for the fact that their primary votes do not count. This is a democracy – you elect your representatives, they make decisions, you live with the consequences because they are YOUR elected officials. If you don't like the decisions or the consequences, vote them out. But please, quit blaming the rest of us who elected representatives that DID NOT break the rules. If the democratic party in Florida is so weak that they couldn't stop the republicans from screwing up their primary, do something in your State to change that. You sound like a bunch of bratty children who could give a rip about the rules. Tell me how you rationalize this to your children. Also, please tell me in a logical and rational manner what punishment should be imposed for breaking these rules – how about telling me what we should do if, say, Washington State decides to move up it's primary in four years? Or Illinois, or Oregon, or West Viriginia or etc., etc.

I hope they take a boom box and play Hillary saying that MI and FL don't count. They should also take a belt to spank all of those HRC babies whining about everything

I thinnk Obama tactically dropped of the race in Michigan as he knows the fact that he will definitely loose in Michigan and now they speak that as a protest......

wow obama supporters agree that hillary can win 300 electrol votes....Can obama do this????

Also when talking about no of states won I have a question Can you compare Michigan and mississippi as equal or dakota or other small states

If obama is nominated he will lose

Hillary 08

FOLLOW YOUR PARTY'S RULES!

Face it, your votes were COUNTED – however, your states will not receive any delegates as punishment for disregarding your party's primary rules.

The rest of America now knows how many FL & MI voters cast meaningless ballots in the Democratic Party Primary.

The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in party rules – it's up the Rules Committee when they meet on 31 May.

Punishment hurts now, doesn't it?

Being an outsider and supports neither Obama not Clinton, I find it interesting, why Clinton did not protest, at the begining, when the DNC instated the rule.

She has even agreed not to campaign in those two states. Well, the same way you guys elected an idiot like Bush to the White house. Where is Clinton's integrity? At the begining I abide the the rules, but when its going to benefit me, I do not.

Sigh. It's past time to look at this objectively. The results in Michigan and Florida are pretty much meaningless because of who was actually on the ballot and who actually campaigned there. People in those states need to turn their anger towards those states (and not the DNC or Obama) for breaking established rules by the DNC. Counting the results from those states wouldn't be fair to Obama but at this point it wouldn't matter as he'd still take the nomination.

That said, please don't use your vote to spite Obama. You aren't just hurting Obama you're likely hurting your interests as well. Clinton and Obama are close on the issues; McCain is nearly polar opposite.

Hey Kathy FLA, is Hillary a liar or does she just want the rules changed? Take your choice. She signed and verbally committed that the votes would not count. So don't cry about these delegates not being counted and stop blaming Obama for this because all candidates agreed. These were the rules. The states were warned.
The only reason Obama's people opposed counting the votes is because he did not campaign so the results would not be representative of a fair vote. His name was not on the Michigan ballot because everyone agreed to remove the names. Except that Hillary went back on that agreement. And when it comes to politicians running a dishonest campaign, Hillary is the champ, not Obama.
She was the one who decided to take this campaign into the gutter because she was petrified after Obama blew her away in Iowa.

obama has won ,regardless.clinton will lose,anyway.have your meetings,have your protests.change the rules ,to placate hillary and her sore losers.keep fighting ,all the way to the convention.keep the party divided.smear and lie.show no integrity at all.no grace.hillary is a hornet,and a sorry excuse of a human being.the local gangs,here,in our neighborhoods,show more loyalty,than hillary and her supporters.thank you ,hillary,for spiting the voters,and pushing your supporters to vote republican.a woman scorned?

Every Vote must count???

What about the caucus states?
What about those persons in Michigan and Florida who did not vote because the were told their votes would not count.

GB, GET OVER IT AND GET USED TO IT.

YES WE CAN!!

YES WE CAN!!

OBAMA FOR LIFE SUPPORTED

HE IS HERE TO STAY AND REALLY DON'T NEED YOUR VOTE OR OPINION.

I too voted "uncomitted" in Michigan becase Barack was not on the ballot.

Hillary is not concerned with my vote either! Go home Hill & Billy...the two of you disgust me!

OBAMA 08 & 12!

MICHIGAN LUVS OBAMA ....and Michelle!

Fl & MI will be seated but not the way HRC wants it to be seated. The Clinton's disgust me with the "old Bush steal"the election tactics. How low will they go should be the question? DNC will do their job and not divide the party, nor will they over rule the peoples choice.

OBAMA '08

You are not sick of anything or anybody @ GB...you are just jealous of Obama! Can you do any better at running this country? I don't see you campaigning or sending money to Hillary's camp, if so, she wouldn't be running low on $$$. So shut up, sit back and watch all of this even out....lol

It's incredible how arrogant you Obama Supporters are in reference to this. What are you afraid off? Putting your so called "rules" aside for a minute please, DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK OBAMA WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER WITHOUT FLORIDA AND HILLARY SUPORTERS NATIONWIDE? Do we just want to clinch the nomination and loose in November like Kerry and Gore?

OBAMA WILL CLEARLY WIN COUNTING ALL THE VOTES!!! BY THE WAY HE WILL ALSO NEED THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS AND ALL THIS HATE..HATE AND NAME CALLING WILL NOT – WILL NOT UNITE.

ALSO BEFORE I AM A DEMOCRAT, I AM AN AMERICAN AND I WILL VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE THAT IS BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY!!! SCARE TACTICTS PAINTING MCCAIN AS A MONSTER WILL NOT DO.

I hope the DNC seat the delegates and divide the delegates but not give Hillary Clinton what she wants. It is time this country stand up to Bill and Hillary who has made an empire off of the American People. Bill needs to sit down with his cheating self and HIllary with her lies. How can people support such pathetic people who will do anything to get their way. I hope this doesn't happen to this DNC. You don't change rules to suit the other party at such late game.

A further fracturing or breaking of the Democratic Party. Including Florida and Michigan Delegates to count in the primaries is nothing short of cheating and no argument by Clinton or her supporters can change that fact. Changing the rules to benefit you is "CHEATING" plain and simple.

Please leave the emotional blackmail argument of disenfranchised voters of Florida and Michigan to the uneducated, making less than $50k Clinton Supporters, that is all they have to argue with. Logic, economic comfortability, educated persons are "kryptonite" to them.

CNN.............update your count on Road to the White House!! It is so annoying. Susan Maveau reported this moring he only needs 49. I agree with others,that even when OBAMA gets 2026 you guys won`t be reporting it!

On Michigan and Florida. Sure the votes should count. Everyone wants the votes to count. Even OBAMA! But they need to be counted fairly, not just given to Clinton as if she had won they outright in a legitimate primary. There are plenty of people that would have voted if they had not been told their votes would not count. This is not Russia...you can not have a election with only one candidate on the ballot!! There is no need for all the negative and disrespectful comments from both the Clinton and OBAMA camps, but here does need to be unity in November. WE CANNOT AFFORD MCCAIN.

OBAMA 08

Why aren't we talking about Florida and Michigan ELECTED State Officals, the ones that caused all this mess? Obama didn't do this!!!! He just obey the rules he doesn't try to break them. This is what we need in a President.

TO ALL OF THE UNEDUCATED SUPPORTERS OF QUEEN HILLARY

October 2007: "It's clear that this election they're having [in Michigan] is not going to count for anything," Hillary Clinton during an interview with New Hampshire Public Radio in
August 2007: Clinton adviser Harold Ickes voted to strip the rogue states (Michigan & Florida) of their delegates as a member of the DNC's Rules and Bylaws committee – "to prevent the gaming of the system,"
September 2007: Patti Solis Doyle, Former Clinton's campaign manager, pledged not to compete in either contest -. "We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process... and the DNC's rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role," "Thus, we will... adhere to the DNC-approved nominating calendar."
January 2004: Former DNC chairman–and current Clinton aide–Terry McAuliffe: "If I allow you to do that, the whole system collapses," (According to his memoir)."The closest [Michigan's delegates will] get to Boston will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules.

DO YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS?

This entire situation is just a mess and it is further pushing the division between the party. I don't care what anyone says, this party is divided and I'm not too confident it can be repaired unless a fair comprise is presented to both Obama and Clinton.

The way Clinton wants it, is not fair and Obama is just taking a back seat to see what the resolution is that the DNC will come up with. This is just a shame!

It's funny; as I sat and watched recount last evening, it reminded me of how I felt during that time. I was so pissed off and I thought to myself why did I even bother to vote if my vote did not count, and here we are almost eight years later and the DNC has allowed itself to get in a position where they are disenfranchising voters how
ironic I cannot believe that they did not think about this when they decided to disenfranchise the voters in MI and FL instead of penalizing the state party with some type of fine or something, it should have never even come to a discussion about the people loosing their right to vote and have it count, this is their fault and their fault only. The candidates should not have even been asked to sign off on this mess. I am done with the DEMS after 22 years I have realized that they are not the party of the people, they had the nerve to send me a survey/donation letter, I kindly told them about themselves and exactly where they could go. They tried to use Hillary's name on the letter because they got my name from her donor list, which will not work, not now not ever. This movie reminded me of just what these people in these two states probably feel about their voices and their votes not being counted, it is a miscarriage of justice and democracy

Lets see who’ll have the bigger crowd! Hehe Oh, Yes We Can!!!!!

Just hold up a sign: HILLARY AGREED TO EXCLUDE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA

Clinton / Lewinsky '12

5 MORE DAYS AND OBAMA HAS IT GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE NEEDS 49 MORE SHE NEEDS 260 MORE ONLY 87 MORE TO GET MATH 101 HAS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Clinton campaign can't deny that if Obama had campaigned in Florida and Michigan that the numbers would be different. At the time of the primaries in those states he was relatively unknown.

They also can't deny that Hillary signed the papers saying that they shouldn't count – and then stated it to the national public.

And they can't deny that McAuliff is one of the original brokers for not counting those states.

For the DNC to even consider this is cowardly and idiotic. The Obama people were told the rules – and they have played by them.

The Clinton people constantly change the metrics. Why? Because they are losing – no other reason. That is the reason she didn't fight early – she thought the nomination was a shoe-in – but now she is desperate and this is her last shot at the White House.

Hillary, Bill – Stop your whining! Or maybe you put it better, Bill – 'Politics is a contact sport. If you don't want to get hit, then take your uniform off.'

IT'S OK FOR FL AND MI TO HAVE THERE SAY, IT'S OK FOR HILLARY TO GET THERE DELEGATES COUNTED, IT'S OK FOR HILLARY TO ACT LIKE THIS BECAUSE SHE IS LOSING. THE DNC WILL NOT GIVE HER MORE FL AND MI DELEGATES TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME AND OBAMA WILL STILL BE THE NOMINEE. HILLARY AND BILL HAVE COMPLETLY LOST SIGHT OF WHY SHE STARTED HER RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOW BECAUSE SHE IS LOSING, IT IS ALL ABOUT HER AND NOT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ANYMORE. THE NOMINEE IS NOT CHOSEN BY POPULAR VOTE, IT IS CHOSEN BY THE NUMBER OF DELEGATES AND SUPERDELEGATES. PLEASE HILLARY, GET OVER IT AND START GETTING BEHIND THE WINNER AND UNITE OUR PARTY SO WE CAN MAKE A STRONG CASE TO BEAT MCCAIN.

HILLARY, STOP WHINNING AND DO THE GROWN UP AND BEST THING FOR YOUR PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!

OBAMA 2008 : – )

I have always been a great supporter of the democratic process in this country. The issue here is that both Michigan and Florida had their results discounted because they were not very good at reading a calendar.....How hard can it be to recognize when you are allowed to hold a party primary. I mean honestly, did Flordia and Michigan WANT to create this mess for our country? You absolutely cannot count Michigan as Obama didn't even have his name on the ballot there....for good reason. Their vote wasn't going to count. As for Florida, I am all for them finding a way to seat those delegates....at least Obama's name was on the ticket there. As for Clinton's charge about people bullying the superdelegates into voting.....let's not forget you guys have been playing it exactly the same way....pot....kettle....black.

The DNC has, so far, demonstrated the willingness and ability to canabalize a candidate (Hillary Clinton). It has lost credibility and severely damaged the Dem. brand!

Obama is way too far left for the majority of Americans and will never win the General Election.

The Dems no longer deserve to be supported, and if they are foolish enough to make Obama their nominee, I will leave the party.

Hillary Clinton 2008 and 2012 or John McCain 08!

As an Obama supporter I am not afraid of Florida and Michigan voting if the situation were fair, but it isnt.

Florida was a beauty contest that was only based on name recognition whereas Michigan didnt even have a chance to vote for Obama.

The name Clinton is the most well-known and powerful in democratic politics and for her to claim that the vote in Florida was reasonable without people having the opportunity to get to know Obama is ludacris.

Michigan should go 50%-50% and just to appease Clinton voters give them 55%-45% or 53%-47%, but no more.

That would be fair and just based on what happened!

Obama has not blocked a resolution at any point, where are people getting their misinformation from, probably from the Clinton campaign, thank god I'm an independent, I would be embarrased to be a Democrat right now! First off, his campaign is willing to give her a majority of delegates in both states, even if that number is 51% that's not bad considering Obama wasn't even on the ballot yet 40% of the voting public in Michigan actually chose undecided, who do you think they were going to vote for? Not to mention Hillary has tried to push more out of the count then makes sense, such as counting the popular vote. That's just ridiculous, it would be like the Lakers playing the Bulls and the Lakers don't make it to the game because of a horrible storm, so the Bulls shoot one basket and claim a victory, it doesn't make sense. I say seat the delegates with a margin of 60% – 40% in favor of Hillary, even though it wouldn't go that way for her in that State, and leave out popular vote numbers. BTW, if you want to play that game I have friends in Europe who love Barack Obama, why not count there votes as part of the popular vote for Barack Obama, that makes just as much sense.

Bad idea..... counter protest against people in the 4th and 8th largest state that want their votes to count. Just what we need to win people over in November. Who's smart idea was this????

I know how Hillary can recover the money she's lent herself over the course of her campaign. If she were to market the kool-aid she's been serving her supporters, (which has apparently worked), she'll make billions!

How can even her most avid supporters not see that this is no longer about America, "the people", or even about Florida and Michigan – states which didn't matter in her eyes until 4 months ago. It's about Hillary, and what Hillary wants. Maybe she figures that, with the dismissing of the constitution by the current administration, it might be a good time to usher in the dictatorship she so clearly desires.

Hillary 08 (would be a horrible day for America)

OBAMA 08 IS THE CHOICE FOR THE REAL VOICE

Kathy-–How do you Know this is true?Is this your opinion or do you hav eemperical knowledge of this? Help me understand how you Know.

The Clinton's Legacy:

Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Whitewater, the White House travel office firings, White House coffees and Lincoln bedroom stays for donors, FBI background files on Republicans, missing documents and the presidential pardon of a fugitive friend.

Anyone But Hillary!

Good Job Dems... Good Job America..... Lets elect a person for president that has less experience then Jimmy Carter and Bush.... The other two worked out great this one should be even better....
GREAT.......

Moving to Canada

I don't know if half the Sen Clinton supporters on these blogs are really supporters or just folks fanning the flame. But if you are a supporter of hers, I'm sick and tired of your threats to vote for Sen McCain if Sen Obama gets the Dem ticket. If you feel so strongly that he stole the election, which he did not do, than you go right ahead and vote for McCain or stay home...I for one don't give a rats behind. You will live with your decision over the next 4 years and if the country goes further in the tank, don't blame McCain, don't blame Sen Obama, don't blame anyone, but YOURSELF. The reason alot of his supporters are pissed off is because of the campaign that Sen Clinton has run. You can only take so much and than you get pissed off and speak your mind. AGAIN, if you folks want to sit home on election day or vote for Sen McCain out of spite than just do it and shut the hell up. Sen Obama is ahead in the DELEGATE count which is which is the deciding factor in the dem nominating process...NOT THE POPULAR VOTE. Stop trying to change all the rules just so your candidate can win. How is that fair? Please, tell me how that is fair? Is this how this country should be run. Shoot, lets just throw out the constitution why don't we. It is time to unite the party.

What will Barry do now? LOL!

Why do we even bother having rules? Why scream now and not when the ruling was first made? Where was all that "every vote must count"?

Axelrod has done it all! Every opinion Obama expresses is orchestrated by Axelrod - that's why you'll rarely see Obama say anything substantive off-the-cuff . The "Obama Phenomenon" is a carefully crafted public relations event - and it started long go.

DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT – IT'S NOT HARD TO COME BY:

Example: For four years Axelrod had camera crews tracking virtually everything Obama has done in public — chatting up World War II vets in southern IL, visiting his father’s ancestral village in Kenya — and often camera crews outnumbered the civilians. He found a grainy, C-Span-style shot of Obama talking about homelessness on the floor of the IL state Senate, which he quickly used to establish Obama’s prior political experience.

Before that, Axelrod was mostly visible in Chicago the last decade as Mayor Daley’s public relations strategist - the guy who goes on TV to defend Daley from charges of corruption.

Axelrod also operates a second business, ASK Public Strategies. This company discreetly plots strategy and advertising campaigns for corporate clients to shift public opinion their way. He and his partners consider virtually everything about ASK to be “top secret.”

So when you vote for Obama, you'll really be voting for Axelrod. Good Luck!

to sherrie50: nicely said.

SAY WHAT?! Ms. Clinton voted for sanctioning, did a 180, not that she's truly desparate?! Say it's ain't so –> that she also yet maintains
that caucus results should NOT be counted (identical arguement).
omg

This is so ridiculous! The rules were broken in FL and MI. This is not Obama's fault! Follow the rules and you will be counted in the future. Don't be cheaters like the republicans!

I live in Florida. Our leaders screwed up to be "relevant". I think we should be punished. It is not a HRC or Obama issue. This is an issue of our state leaders being idiots.
Don't count our votes and don't seat the delegates. This is a primary election where constitutional law is not the same as a GE.

Let's get on to the General Election!

SlimSista May 27th, 2008 10:57 am ET

IT'S A GOOD THING…WE DO NOT NEET HILLARY STEALING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!!

SHE AGREED TO NOT COUNT FL & MI, NOW THAT SHE IS LOSING IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY…OBAMA IS LEADING ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM…..

PLEASE DNC, TAKE HRC OUT OF HER MISERY…

OBAMA '08

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The will of the people??? Are you obamidiots serious?
Of the population eligible to vote obama has about 13% of them.
Clinton about 12%
McCain about 25% (25-31% if we look at recent voting trends).

Until all eligible voters actually vote, please don't obamanate the numbers. Not much more than half the electorate actually votes.
To call obamas current 13% of eligible voters the will of the people is exactly the type of garbage we hear from obama and his supporters.

All of you "voting rights activists" should be protesting outside the offices of Gov. Jennifer Granholm of Michigan and Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida.

If it weren't for Granholm and Crist, THIS WHOLE THING WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED!

These governors broke the rules, and they are the ones who put their states out of play!

note to MI and FL.

you broke the rules. it was clearly stated what would happen if you did. so deal with it.

your votes shouldn't count. HRC and every democrat supported this ruling over a year ago. HRC only wants this to change because she has no hope of winning the nomination unless she changes the rules.

Background: The two states in question asked the DNC to move up their primaries. The DNC refused. ALL candidates agreed NOT to campaign in the two states. NONE of the candidates (except Obama) said their votes don't count. NONE of the parties involved ever dreamed the votes in MI or FL would matter. They do.

DNC rules would have allowed for a revote. The CLINTON campaign OFFERED to pay for it. Obama refused because he would no longer have an edge. The DNC, MI and Clinton Campaign signed off on a revote in MI. Obama refused to RETURN ANY PHONE CALLS about MI until it was too late to schedule the revote.

Obama's position has been rules are rules. He would accept seating if the delegates did not sway the election in any way, or if ALL delegates were split 50/50. Disregarding the votes of 2.3 million people.

Now of course, he is trying to blame Clinton. Even if the DNC splits FL and MI in a way that favors Obama, the RULES state that the two states can appeal the decision at the CONVENTION. That alone is WHY Obama is urging his bloggers to call for Clinton to drop out. If she drops out, he will win. If she doesn't...then it can be overturned at the convention.

Had he been smart, he would have either asked her to be VP or NOT paint her as Old Politics. He did too good of a job there, and painted himself in a corner. He cannot win without Clinton supporters. Clinton cannot win without Obama supporters...(Although Clinton has WON every state needed to win the GE and leads McCain in all of the polls in the swing states needed to win).

Obama supporters continue to drive a wedge of hatred toward Clinton supporteers...you are NOT HELPING OBAMA...it makes one wonder if you really like him at all.

Go Hillary! Fight not only until the convention, but afterwards. Make sure you are ready to go before the inaugural, because after that, you won't be able to step into Obama's shoes. Once he's in office, any accident will result in his VP (which will NOT be you) taking over. I like the present Gov from LA. He'd be good & a breath of fresh air. Thus, Hillary, get your gun-toting, under-educated Whites ready. Their days are numbered. Also, my advice to Obama: wear lead underwear.

All of his speeched sound like sermons. If you ask him a question his responses are all the same....Ahhhh, Ummmm, Ahhhh. He can;t think on his feet, it all has to be written out for him. All he says in debates is "I agree with senator clinton". Can he NOT think for himself. I'm sorry, I feel how I feel, and will NOT vote for Obama over an experienced democrat like Hillary.

GB we are all fighting for the same cause regardless of who you support. Once the primaries are over we need to unite behind the party to ensure a Republican does not claim the White House...especially someone with the same ideals as our current President. Disappointment is one thing...hating a candidate for beating your candidate is a little foolish. Let us try to change the country not continue on with the same.

Obama '08

It's great to see my fellow Americans protesting. Public protest is a wonderful thing, it shows people care about the world around them.

I don't really care which democrat wins, I just love to be reminded that some people really do care about the political process.
A vote for a third party isn't a wasted vote either, by the way, at the very least you send a message:
"This is what I believe in and if the major parties won't represent me, they'll lose my vote."
If enough of us do this, we will make a differance, I promice.

GB, the fact is the other way around. It is your candidate that is a sour looser and a hateful person who wants to win at any cost.

Remember what she said last week regarding the Bobbie Kennedy 1968 run? Yes, she can't wait for the news that Obama gets knocked on the head so that she jumps for joy!

People who are evil, hatefilled, power hungry are the ones that caused this country to be in such a bad shape.

If you can't win; get someone to take the other candidate out! Jesus Christ, what has this country come to? Go figure and vote for the hateful evil person.

We in MIchigan were not disenfranchised by either candidate. We were clearly told what would happen if we did not follow the DNC rules and, unlike many things in this country, someone actually stuck to their word. The major candidates sign offed on this and Obama actually took his name off of the ballot.

Now Clinton wants the rules changed and she wants the vote held WITHOUT Obama's name on the ballot to count – of course, she does! The only way to have this be fair is to either split the delegates OR hold another vote. My wife and I did not vote since our candidate wasn't on the ballot even though we were told ours could be "a protest vote". As we see now, that was a sham also as those votes are in "never-never land", cast for no one.

I don't blame the candidates for FL's delegates not being seated. I blame our state party leaders who never took the DNC's threat seriously and can be seen on YouTube laughing on the floor of the FL House at the threat of not having our delegates count.
What I DO oppose is Hillary first agreeing to abide by the DNC rules and then changing her mind when she started losing. That shows a real lack of character.

lol. You've been listening to the Hillary lies too long. First of all polls aren't votes. They don't count. Votes count. And Obama has been beating Hillary for months in popular, most states and most delegates. Now you want to include the votes of FL and MI who voted for Hillary, and ignore the fact that some people didn't vote and the fact that Obama's name wasn't on the ballot in MI. I guess when you're desperate you'll try to get votes any way you can. But that's fine because she still looses. COunt the votes from the caucus states (which the DNC has and they are published on realpolitics.com) and Obama has gotten more votes. So what are you laughing at, Hillary?

I am amazed why and how Obamistas think that he has the RIGHT to be the president. They trashed, badmouthed, insulted Hillary way over the limit.
This is why I will never vote for Obama. Because of all these nasty things. His campaign whining about racism, about that and this. His NEED to explain what he really meant after he said something. Too much of immaturity.
And, yes, it is visible that Hillary was put through unfairness from beginning. Yes she had some blunders, but so did Obama. No one is perfect.
People – some people are not ready for strong, smart, intelligent woman....but, latest article in Times was talking about Michele being very much involved for Obama, he reports to her after every speech......this is OK – he needs her approval I guess, but then it has to be OK for Bill Clinton being involved.

I remember one of the first debates, Hillary was so smart, intelligent, and right in what she was saying, Obama was just following at that time in his words...now, he attacks her, she attacks him, but he says he does not attack...she is being forced out......strange.....

Fairness is lost in these elections, double standard reins – was introduced by Obama's campaign, also the racism was revived to the point of ugliness, scary, not right. He is the one who divided the party.

I just wish there would be a justice, higher justice which would lead people to be reasonable, rational, mature, fair, and stop all the disgusting comments and hate.

Hillary must have her own way!!! Tantrum after tantrum. SHE signed all the agreements in the beginning!!! What about the rules??? She is the one breaking the rules and should be withheld from ALL votes. What gave her the right to put her name on the ballot in Michigan anyway?!!! Hillary, you are going to destroy your political career!!!! There was a time I thought you could be VP but its become rediculous and maybe you shouldn't even get that.

Hillary thinks she beat up on Barack, but she didn't. He was a gentleman throughout this entire campaign. Now that Hill is out of the race, he will be a lot tougher with McSame.

All of that Annie Oakley, gun tottin, shot drinking role playing was a joke. Don't get me wrong, I still like the people, but I hate the image that Hillary portrayed.

Thomas Jefferson (the founder of the Democratic Party) agreed with a Rule that said African – Americans count as only 60% of a person. We changed that offensive rule, even though "everybody" had agreed to it. We changed the unfair poll taxes, even though they were rules "everybody" agreed with. Now Obamabots want to count people in Florida and Michigan as a big fat 0 of a person. How offensive to the disenfranchised people, even if Hillary agreed to it. This is not a question of whether Hillary and Obama agreed to a Rule; the question is whether the Rule is a gross violation of civil rights of people in Florida and Michigan and should be changed. If the DNC does not change this rule that "everybody" agreed to, on what principled basis does it fight poll taxes and other "rules" that disenfranchise African – Americans, even if "everybody" agreed to those rules? PRINCIPLES, PRINCIPLES. CHANGE (you can believe in) the rules if the rules disenfranchise voters!

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR BOTH GROUPS.

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN FLORIDA SCAMMED THE

ELECTION, & GAVE IT TO BUSH?????

WE COULD NOT DO IT THEN BUT NOW WE WANT TO

DECAPITATE EACH OTHER. SOMEBODY IS GETTING

HOODWINKED FOR SURE.

What have Bill & Hillary promised that they are willing to do anything to win? Initially, I thought it was merely blind ambition, now I am beginning to think it is more! From "fairty tale" to "conspiracy" and "sexism." Am I the only one reminded of the Clinton health care debacle, the meaning of "is," and other deflections of responsibility and accountability? How can someone who began a campaign with unparalleled name recognition, access to political power and money, elite status as wife of a popular president end up with a campaign that is morally and financially bankrupt? Do we want THE CLINTONS in the White House–again?!

Methinks they protest too much!
To save all that 'bus' money, why doesn't somebody do the math!?
FLA and MI were not landslide States for Clinton. Obama's lead is so big from the other 48 States that even a 'low ball' allocation to Obama in FLA and MI still gives him the overall popular vote lead and an insurmountable pledged delegate lead, even with the new goal post.
The only way the Clinton camp can 'claim' a PV victory is by sticking to the 55% she got in MI, with his 0%. (She was on the ballot against 'Uncommitted'! for cheese sake.) By giving Obama an improbable, measly 10% in MI he clinches the PV victory.
That is with seating FLA 'as is'. 49.8 % Clinton 33% Obama, though it could be argued out of the other 17% mots would be for Obama. (You can bet if Edwards had supported Clinton, Wolfson would have already added ALL of Edward's votes.)
The DNC must be very careful not to disenfranchise the 48 States that stood in line, in favor of the party crashers. Also, the educated, rule following Obama supporters in both States, as evidenced by many Posts on BLOGS, will have to see some penalty if they are to trust the democratic process.
Because the Fla and MI results don't change the Obama nomination, (forgetting about a 55 to 0 scenario in MI!), the question should be how a United democratic should handle this.
If the Obama and Clinton camps got together to put the best face it, they would come up with this. Obama could 'accept' the FLA results 'as is' and 'accept' a 55 35 in MI. That would appease the Clinton supporters and the 'educated' Obama supporters would see it's okay. THEN, in order to appease the law abiding 48 States, they cut that result in 1/2, restoring the Democratic process!

Actually, it is Obama's fault for all of this. FL and MI moved up and broke the rules. HOwever, in the rules, FL and MI could have a revote. In the 2004 primary election, Delaware moved up, and their delegates were stripped. THey had a revote and their delegates were reinstated. Revotes were suggested for MI and FL but Obama knocked them both down. So it IS his fault. He's had a history of this. Look at how he got his first state senate seat by pushing everyone else off the ballot so soon before election day that the other candidates couldn't appeal. He run unopposed to win his first politial position. He's been disenfranchising opposition voters for a long time while enfranchising his own base.

Kathy – FLa

What you need made clear is your mind. Obama has consistently said he wants the FLA and Michigan delegates seated.
Why do you only blame him for a mess the Republicans in the state initiated and which Clinton agreed to – signed agreement by the way. Later in the primaries she said FLA and Mich votes didn't matter. Why not state that. As well as the fact one of her campaign workers actually helped make the decision to prevent FLA votes from counting.
If you are going to spout of – at least get your facts straight

How Pathetic. Clinton want to count FL and MI only because she is losing. Obama didn't even campaign in Florida nor was his name on the ballot in Michigan so how would it be fair to count those?

Never mind the convention, this is going to the Supreme Court!

Delay tactics all over again.
We all know Hillary has lost the nomination except for her, Bill and their supporters. At this point the argument is about the DNC rules of nomination and how they pale against the GE rules. By the way it’s the Terry McCauliffe’s of the DNC days gone by who put together the percentage rules for pledged delegates and the caucus rules as well. You have clearly lost based on the agreed rules. We can change them after the nominations. There is no point in destructing us with GE polls for a handful of states that are soooo relevant now just because Hillary won in those states. This whole June thing is also another way for Billary to buy more time before they decide to crush and burn the DEM party at the convention. It’s sad to say that in their divisive ways the argument is that Obama will lose those states by thinking that anyone who voted for Hillary will not vote for Obama. What more of a subliminal divisive message do we need?

All I can say is.... GOOD! I love to see some Obama supporters gather to counter the Clinton supporters.

Like I predicted before and I will again...at least 10 people are getting arrested for disorderly conduct (aka a fight will break out)

I just don't understand – you can't bully the DNC into doing what you want, and taking the nomination away from the guy who's winning! If you care that much not losing, then just stay home! Nobody's forcing you to vote. Stay home and stop all this McCain threats already!

The problem is, that when you get individuals that are used to bullying and getting their way, it's hard to hear the word "NO". Unfortunately, Hillary and Bill never dreamed it could turn out any other way. So since, they are losing, change the rules..They shouldn't redo anything, MI and FL decided to move up the primary, knowing full well, what the DNC rules state. Obama doesn't have to always be the one to concede graciously to Billary. Once he secures the nomination, I hope they (Hillary and Bill), will completely support Barack for the Dem Nominee. I doubt it, but I hope they do.

Noooooo! don't do this. Let's not go that far. You are not Clinton supporters!!! They need cheap stuff like this....

This is how McCain will win the election.
HRC = The monster the ate the Democratic party.

She obviously does not care about the future of this country.
All she cares about is her narcissistic ambitions.

Bob Texas, we will NOT UNITE behind Obama...kiss your boy goodbye!!!

hmm so much for his kindness, again his camp is copying. Its so funny. His supporters are just evil. If he wants the votes counted why are they doing a counter protest. If he will win no matter what in a matter of a week whats with the counter protest?. They are doing it just to spite Hillary's supporters and it wont help him in November.

Hillary supporters....all six of them....I think I saw the same people recently on a highway holding signs that a furniture store was "closing its doors for good" – baffling....who continues to support Hillary? – and the funny ones are the "if not Hillary ...then McCain"....they don't even stand for the same things...yet....I doubt Hillarys ever changing positions are why you voted for her anyway....you were decieved...

Wow, what a bunch of nasty comments by hopefully not nasty people. There is nothing fair in politics. Seems to me HRC got out-campaigned and hates to lose. Change the rules, blame others, say stupid things, whatever.

Take it to the convention Hillary. Obama people seem to forget that not a single delegate has been awarded. Look up the word "PLEDGED" Bring all the delegates and superdelegates to Colorado and make them vote. Televise the whole thing and let the people see. A lot has changed in the last few months. How many people have buyers remorse over Obama? Looking at recent numbers I would say a lot. This election has been a farce. The only way to have closure is for the convention to decide. Obama since March has lost 8 of 11 contests by over a half million votes. Talk about limping to the finish line. No wonder he wants her to drop out. If she don't he may not make the finish line.

If Obama wins the Dem Nomination:

All of the uneduacated simple white Democrats that you, Howard Dean took for granted, will be voting for John McCain for President.

So chalk up another loss for Deans Dozen. I would rather die than vote for Obama. All of my Democrat friends say the same. In reality I am glad, because Dean you turned your back on us, shoved Obama down our throats, now we're throwing up.

Seems like you old school Dems, Dean, Kennedy, Dodd, Kerry really pissed us off this time. You turned your back on the Democrat's most viable candidate, Hillary. Now we are going to return the favor. I am going to turn my back on YOUR CHOICE Howard Dean, and will be voting Republican for the first time in my life.

At least I know McCain is a patriot, has pride, and shows and has shown his loyalty to his country. Therefore I will vote for McCain with a smile on my face.

She has destroyed the party with this lunacy.

She agreed to play by the rules – until she started losing. Then she wanted the rules changed, and started this "let's count EVERY vote" nonsense.

Can e TRUST a President who won't play by the rules?

The latest "word of the day" is that she is the "only candidate" who can "defeat McCain" in the fall.

This, despite her horrendously high negative ratings – 55% or more.

This, despite the polls and any logical use of math which show her behind Obama.

In order to believe Hillary's claims, you have to believe that "the popular vote" doesn't count all the caucus States, and that winning a Democratic Primary in a State is the same as winning the State in the Fall election. Sorry, but I am not that dumb.

She had divided the party, and through her negative attacks on Obama, has created a legion of Obama-haters – within the Democratic Party!

McCain just has to sit back and watch the party self-destruct.

At least we now know who the "Ralph Nader" of this election is – Hillary Clinton!

Is Axelrod Obama's Rove?

I am glad to hear that both sides will be represented at the hearing. Personally, I wish that both sides would leave it up to the DNCand their appointed representatives at the hearing to make their case. However, since Clinton has been actively encouraging this group to go down there, it is only fair to have a counter-group making Obama's case.

Senator Obama voters should not waste their time counter-protesting.
Hillary reminds me of the middle-school bully who rallies students who
cannot think for themselves to fight against each other. Then she
stands in the background like she's innocent, and laughs at the gullible
idiots and pretends that she had nothing to do with it. The DNC rules
committe will handle Hillary and her dreadful attempts to cheat.

It's great to see my fellow Americans protesting. Public protest is a wonderful thing, it shows people care about the world around them.

It isn't going to matter...Obama is NEVER going to win!!

All the way to the convention Hillary!!

Millions of Hillary supporters will WRITE IN HILLARY or VOTE FOR McCain!!

Hillary is trying her best to win the demoncratic nonimee and Hillary should be worry if state of Ny would vote her out of the senate seat because she is so negative against the demoncratic party

MI Voters- Please email MI DNC Committeewoman Debbie Dingell and her husband and YOUR MI15th District Congressman John Dingell (HRC supporter), they are the reason why your VOTES won't count!

FL Voters- Please email Rep. Ellyn Boganoff (R) and Rep. David Rivera (R), they are the reason why your VOTES won't count!

I can not post email address on this messageboard so you will have to google it.

Don't forget desperate Hill initiated this with that petition urging people to count Michigan and FL. Hopefully the document she signed before all this supporting the rules will hold up in court. Also remember millions didn't vote cause their vote wouldn't count.

Imagine a commander in chief that doesn't know where the great lakes are located! thinks Canada has a president! kentucky is next to arkansas! Pennsylvania is in the midwest! the U.S HAS 57 STATES!!!!

CAN YOU IMAGINE A COMMANDER IN CHIEF THAT HATES AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"All you HC haters, please tell me what have you done for humanity and your society. How much have you given as a servant of mankind to make this a better place to live. "
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Sherrie50 and all of the other HC supporters:

I was wondering if you could answer that same question...? And is there anyone in the great state of New York who can answer that same question for Sen. Hillary Clinton?

Obamacans = Republicans - they just want to win at any cost.

Well it is about time. someone actually stood up against the clintons, to them all rules are changable and view points flip flop at their conveience. Obama has had a terrific campaign, hope he does not ruin it by adding the immoral clinton.

what a mess!

Obama maniacs have been slamming the Clintons way before the Iowa primary. Interesting to me that all of the "billary haters" have ramped up their viciousness and funnelled it towards their fellow democrats "hillary supporters." My disgust will remain, my lowest moment of feeling anything but despair as a member of the democratic party.

How do sign up for this WWF event?

It is good that both sides see that Florida & Michigan should get to vote.

It is only fair to the people of these states.

If the situation were reversed and Obama was standing in Clinton's shoes, he would be whinning like a baby. He didn't want a re-count in Fla and Mi because he knew he would loose. Neither campaigned
in Fla and Obama decided to take his name off in Mi, because he knew he would loose that state.

His campaign would be screaming the race card if he wanted a RE-COUNT and the DNC refused.

Let every vote count and see who the American want as President.
The people have a right to choose.

The only reason Obama doesn 't want a resolution to Florida and Michigan is because he would lose his delegate lead and the popular vote.

Tell me that you would want a President that stands up for the government and not the people.

Isn't that what he preaches in his sermons?

I am so sick of hearing "they broke the rules....doesn't Hillary want to follow the rules...the rules....the rules..." What nonsense. Several other states also voted before they were supposed to and suffered no consequences. And if you actually READ "the rules" you will find that for whatever reason the DNC chose to impose their own new version of the actual rule that states if they vote early they will only get HALF their delegates seated – that is the way the rule is written, but the DNC chose to take it further and impose the most disenfranchising punishment they could. The votes in Florida and Michigan were certified and should stand as voted. Obama chose to take his name off the Michigan ballot so he should forfeit any votes or delegates. Period.

Dan in florida, you have no brain, or what?
what you blaming barack for not counting FL. why don't you blame republican florida congress and Governor Christ, they once who did that. If you vote Mccain then you voting for bush. That actually would be like if you voting against Clinton anyway, because her policies opposite to bush. Please if you not going to vote for barrack in november don't vote at all, we don't need MCBUSh for another 4 years.

My son lives in Fla, when the primaries were going on in that state I ask him if he planned to vote. He stated that it would not count so he would save his vote for the general election. A lot of voters in that state understood that their vote would not be counted and they chose not to go to the polls. So where in lies the problem?

It's clear from reading through these comments that the majority of Obama supporters appear to be much younger, based on their word choices.

While this means energy and enthusiasm for the Obama campaign, it means disaster for the Democratic party at large. Why? Because youngin's simply don't make it out to the polls in the numbers of older Americans. I'm not going to speculate as to why, but look at election history and run the numbers for yourself.

If Americans want a democrat in the White House next January, they'd better start getting behind Clinton in a big way. Obama's support base is notorious for not showing up at the polls when it's needed; Clinton's base is reliable and proven.

Obama will make an ideal VP this time, and an ideal presidential candidate once Clinton terms out. After all, he's been an elected official for, what, three years? Let's give him time to become a powerful leader, and then let's put that talent to work. In the meantime, let's stop handing elections to the republicans because we're too dense to see the obvious way to victory.

With all the facts on the table it is frightening how delusional these so called Hillary supporters are. She has repeatedly LIED and had used FEAR tactics reminiscent of one very bad president we need not mention. To so blindly support someone and completely ignore the FACTS is unimaginable to me. Especially after the last 8 years. My only hopeful conclusion is they are really Republicans fearing how badly Obama will crush their candidate come fall. Certainly not true, honesty loving Democrats

Given the major league Democratic whining in FL in 2000 over the hanging chads, if they don't count every vote, the Dems are hypocrits without parallel. There used to be 'rules' against women and blacks voting. Guess what, we changed them. Rules that disenfranchise voters are inherantly undemocratic and need to be changed, or we should stop calling ourselves a democracy. By the way, what's the deal with superdelegates. I guess the Democrats don't trust the voters to make intelligent decisions.

Obama's been blocking unfair solutions that no doubt would favor Hillary. She would not be generious to him to give him an advantage. For example she perposed she gets her votes from MI as per Jan primary and Obama gets 0,because his name was not on the ballot. Fl to be seated as is without any penalty. How could Obama agree to that. It was the states constitutions I think that disallowed a revote.

You know, I don't understand why the Clinton and Obama supporters are mouthing off at each other. It's about time this case of "who shot John" comes to an end. I'm getting sick and tired (especially Obama Supporters) literally thrashing Clinton. If the Democrats are going to have any chance at winning, they have to respect each other and respect each other's decision for who they think can best run this country! To supporters of Obama, yes, Clinton probably can't win the nomination, but get that thumb out of your mouths and start respecting both candidates for their hard work throughout this primary and caucus season. Both Obama and Clinton have made gaffes, but they're tired and exausted give them a break. In addition, to the people who are for Obama, don't hate somebody else just because they have a different opinion than Obama does. I'm Democrat and I like Obama, but I also like Hillary, they're DEMOCRATS! I believe that whoever is the Nominee will win in November.

If the Democrats want to win November, start respecting one another, don't hate one another, it doesn't only seperate the party, it devides the country everyone has a voice and a RIGHT to disagree last time I checked!

Hey EC, the election isn't until November – calm down – why shouldn't every Hillary supporter (and there are millions) (even more than Obama) why shouldn't we get the same respect as you and the rest of Obama's supporters. Since when did you ever quit a race before you reached the finish line? Please don't insult everyone's intelligence. You want to be a supporter – be a supporter but don't throw around hatred – that's par for you Obama supporters so full of hate.

And THIS you would like to implement in other countries? Good example for them. One hundred million $ devil (or deviless) is terrorizing a whole country – USA.

FLORIDA SHOULD NOT COUNT. I VOTED BECAUSE OF AMMENDMENT 1 . 98% OF FLORIDIANS WENT OUT TO VOTE BECAUSE OF AMMENDMENT 1. I HAVE TWO FRIENDS THA WENT TO VOTE AND NONE OF THE CANDIDATES NAMES CAME UP, THEY ASKED THE WORKERS AND WAS GIVEN NO SOLUTIONS. THEY DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO VOTE. WHAT ABOUT THEIR VOTES? I HAVE PLENTY OF FRIENDS THAT DID NOT GO OUT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD NOT COUNT . WHAT ABOUT THEIR VOTES. THEIR WILL BE NOTHING FAIR ABOUT COUNTING THE VOTES AS THEY ARE. HILLARY WILL NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT MAKE HER LOOK GOOD. THIS WHOLE THING IS MESSED UP. I SAY STICK TO THE ORIGINAL RULE. 2.5 MILLION GOT A CHANCE TO VOTE, WHAT ABOUT THE 2.5 MILLION THAT DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO VOTE.

The rules, are the rules.

GB, Your so full of it. Get a life.
Hillary wasn't even thinking about Mich anf Fla until she needed them. Are you that simple-minded?

Calls to count all the "votes" are insulting to those of us in caucus states. I don't see why my participation in the Washington State caucuses should be disenfranchised. We had record setting numbers in the caucuses this year. And not a single one of us "voted". The Democratic Primary is decided by delegates, not by votes.

Our current President lost the popular vote to Al Gore. The Supreme Court allowed Florida to send a slate of electors which allowed Bush to win in the electoral college. The rules were changed mid election and the country has been paying for it for eight years. I cannot support Clinton's calls to change the rules of the primary mid election.

We must count Florida and Michigan. It won't change the primary outcome, but if we do not count them it could change the outcome in November.

Well I see how delusional the Clinton supporters are, she has rubbed off on them. How in the heck is it Senator Obama fault that Florida and Michigan did not follow the rules like the other 48 states did. The other 48 states followed the rule and now Clinton and her supporters want to get rewarded for breaking the rules. Florida should have known better , they messed up the last election and that's how Bush got in and now they want to blame everyone else because they let their Republican Governor move the date of the primaries that got them in this mess in the first place. I have no problem with the delegates being seated at the convention, but not give them the advantage of selecting who will be president because they did not follow the rule and all the other 48 states that did, should protest if they try to give them all their votes. The next time, FOLLOW THE RULES. Hillary Clinton will never be President of this country, not after what how she ran her campaign this year. If the Clinton's and their supporters try to steal the nomination from Obama and try to mess up the general election, there will be hell to pay for the DNC.

This is TOTALLY different from the 2000 vote! We are a country founded on LAW (i.e. "rules") Imagine if Gore had tried to contest the Presidency based on having won the popular vote? Gore won the popular vote, but it didn't mean he could change the rules! He
graciously asked his supporters to accept the court's election decision. Clinton is getting away with saying the votes in MI and FL should count when that's not what she agreed to and said at the time of the vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg
"It's clear," said Clinton, "this election [Michigan is] having is not going to count for anything. I personally did not think it made any difference
whether or not my name was on the ballot." VS what she's saying now: “The lesson is if you can discern the clear intent of the voter, why would you punish the voter?” How DIVISIVE! Does Hillary ACTUALLY think that giving Obama ZERO votes from MI represents the
true "intent of the voter"? If the DNC allows half the delegates to count, she'll still claim all votes should count towards the popular vote, while saying the popular vote from the caucus states should NOT count! So 238,168 in MI who voted for "uncommitted" b/c Obama wasn't on the ballot shouldn't be counted? Yeah, right! Puerto Ricans, can't even vote in the general election, but she's pandering to them to run
up the popular vote. The current DNC rules ALL candidates agreed to say that it's the most delegates that win the primary NOT the popular vote, but because she can't win by the rules she agreed to, she wants to change the rules! Would our Forefathers have approved?

Mob rule! Let's see who can get more people to the Protest. Chicago 68 Rules. Now we'll see if Obama really believes in civil rights for minorities – does he support counting ALL the votes. Let's see if Obama really believes in CHANGE – if the rules are bad and disenfranchise a minority of voters, change the rules!

It's incredible how arrogant you Obama Supporters are in reference to this. What are you afraid off? Putting your so called "rules" aside for a minute please, DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK OBAMA WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER WITHOUT FLORIDA AND HILLARY SUPORTERS NATIONWIDE? Do we just want to clinch the nomination and loose in November like Kerry and Gore?

OBAMA WILL CLEARLY WIN COUNTING ALL THE VOTES!!! BY THE WAY HE WILL ALSO NEED THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS AND ALL THIS HATE..HATE AND NAME CALLING WILL NOT – WILL NOT UNITE.

ALSO BEFORE I AM A DEMOCRAT, I AM AN AMERICAN AND I WILL VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE THAT IS BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY!!! SCARE TACTICTS PAINTING MCCAIN AS A MONSTER WILL NOT DO.

Poor Hillary, She lost so much:
The support of senators who backed in her bid for the Presidency
The respect of her campaign team who threw her under the bus,
The confident of her husband ( without the blue dress )
The Kennedy family Who now hates her
women in general ,( who thinks she had a sex change and is neither male nor female
Blacks who she constantly insults( at least those educated enough to recognize it
Donors who feels that she is really vying for GOP VP.
The Rednecks who dislikes her thirst for Canadian whiskey
white working American, they know she is behind NAFTA................../...

Can you spell HYPOCRITE? The rules were fine when she was the front runner, but now they aren't. Give me a freakin' break. GO AWAY HILLARY. You are a loser.

Obama 08 = Kerry 04

If Hillary is denied the nomination due to the FL/MI situation, then I will vote for McCain in November. Enough talk of coming together to support Obama; he is too inexperienced, liberal, and divisive due to his comments about religion and guns for the more Intelligent half of the democratic party (and the country as a whole).

As for the "rules is the rules", the Republicans in FL moved up the primary date. Why should us Democrats be punished?

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Lanny Davis and Terry McAuliffe make me want to puke. They will stoop to anything to try and win.....but, suprise..........WE WANT NO MORE CLINTON'S or BUSH'S in our WHITE HOUSE.
Get over it Hillary for the good of the Dems....and good ridance to you all.

Now you know the true color of the clintons.

Why are people from either side wasting their time/money? The only "solution" that the HRC camp will agree on is one that counts all FL and MI votes as is. This includes not giving Obama the "Uncommitted" votes in MI. The DNC will not do this, so it's on to Denver we go. Protesters should save their energy/money till then. On May 31 we will officailly become a divided party. Divided we fall in Novemner. Thanks Hillary!

Who is Obama to be making this decision – why is it up to him – see this is what we mean – The map was already laid out for Obama a year ago – to plan was to railroad Hillary and have all the super deligates pile on and badger her and shame her into wanting to quit -Why is seating Florida and Michigan his decision? That's outrageous. I quit the democratic party.

What a gift to the Republican party!
Are you Democrats thinking AT ALL..... or lost in adolescent party games.

Wait, i think Bill and Hill want to change the rules again. Maybe they better wait to see what if any rule change could possibly get them the nomination. I think we should only count the large states. Well, we could count the small states as long as they're a swing state. We should count the popular vote but not the states that caucus.. I can't believe there are still people who are buying what she's selling. It's truly amazing and i guess it's true–she truly does have the uneducated on her side.

If the allow Clinton to steal this nomination due to Florida and Michigan I will vote for Barr or not at all. She has broken every rule. It's all about her and she is totally going back on what she said about the votes not counting. And now that she's loosing she wants to change the rules. I can't believe the DNC is falling for this.

What a gift to the Republican party!
Are you Democracts thinking AT ALL..... or lost in adolescent party games.

I am arepublican I have learned to respect Hillary for her tenacity and kootzpa .

How about a Mc Cain Hillary ticket?

taylor richmond virginia,

It is not over until the DNC says it is over!

Barack Supporters, don't listen to this kind of advice. Just think, Hillary supporters will be there by the droves! Check with someone from Barack's Campaign, and get their input for organizing the largest/best possible Counter Protest Rally that you can!

BARACK SUPPORTERS,

YES YOU CAN!

MI & FL Democrats: Don't be surprised if the DNC decides that the rules DO count! There are unfortunately a great many people in our country today who don't think the rules apply to them. They don't want to play by them, so they champion the causes of Pete Rose (gambling), Martha Stewart (insider trading), Barry Bonds (cheating), Ronald Reagan (Iran-Contra), Rush Limbaugh (drugs) etc. and the list goes on and on! Once and for all – THE RULES DO MATTER! The best compromise you can hope for is a 50/50 split of your delegations and to actually get them seated at the convention. If you thought this year's primaries were a mess, try them four years from now with states making up their own rules as they go along! There are good reasons why the DNC's rules exist. All the other states went by the rules. If you want to find someone to blame (which never solves the problem), look no further than your own party leaders and elected officials. You want to punish somebody at the polls, start with them. This election, for our WHOLE nation, is too important for people to sulk on the sidelines – no matter where you live!

Please let this be a peaceful protest on both sides. How about the issue not being Hillary vs Obama for that day, but the issue being fair seating of the FLA & MI delegates vs the initial rules.

WHAT CRAP!!

I am from Michigan...WE BROKE THE RULES. We will be seated BUT we should not be allowed to effect the selection process AT ALL...once again for the dense people....

WE BROKE THE RULES....and one other thing....

HILLARY, BARACK, and JOHN agreed with the DNC when they handed down the punishment for BREAKING THE RULES...

It's just Hillary is a phony as a 3 dollar bill and wants to act like she didn't support it before. How can't this woman make your stomach churn...SHE IS A MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT!!

THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN, = CAMP FOR ALL ANTI-AMERICANS, FIRST TIME VOTERS, ANY ONE SUFFERING FROM ANGER ,RESENTMENT, REVENGE,HATE, THOSE WHO SUPPORT MARXISM, HAVE NO NEED FOR FREEDOM, ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE BIAS MEDIA!

The honorable thing for H.C. to do is to demand that her "supporters" stand down. This is ridiculous.

Will someone please ask Hillary Clinton and Mcauliffe why it was okay that Michigan and Florida votes didn't count when Hillary was winning, but they should count now that she is losing?

Let Obama and Hillary battle it out till August...September...October. I love it.

This just shows us all how divided the Democratic party is...

I was a Democrat, now turned Independent and will NOT vote for Obama...

The Rules Committee should seat the super delegates from both states only. This would give both states some representation at the convention with real votes. FL and MI need to be punished for violating the rules. Everyone knows that and there are no indiciations that they will simply allow the votes to count as is – especially when Obama was not on the ballot on MI.

The Clinton campaign has a very weak argument filled with hypocrisy that any educated person can surely see through.

You simply cannot agree to something and then demand a different outcome just because the results favor you.

Also, I have seen that there were some critical initatives on the ballots in FL that perhaps were what drove that many people to vote despite the knowledge that the delegates wouldn't count.

It will simply be harder to stomach Clinton winning the nomination over Obama at this point, because in order for her to do so, she would have to have FL and MI counted as is, AND take a significant share of the remaining superdelegates which would essentially overturn the results up till now.

It's kind of like an eBay auction. Your winning an item the whole time and then right at the very last second, someone comes in and steals it away from you. When that happens it doesn't make me feel very nice. Doesn't make me want to reach out to that buyer and say "Hey nice job!"

Electoral votes only count in the General Election. People WILL vote differently in November than they did in the primaries and caucuses. To say anyone is ahead in electoral votes is a total fabrication. Lets do what the RNC did and give Michigan a Florida a half vote for each delegate.
Too bad the voters in FL and MI cannot vote out those who REALLY screwed them over in the fall – their own officials! (Both governors were sworn in January 2007)

It just goes to show the character of Obama and his camp when they are protesting to SUPPRESS the votes of millions of people just because they didn't vote for him. This is an utter disgrace. And please don't tell me that this was not Obama's fault. It is his fault for two reasons: 1) Obama actively sought to remove his name from the MI ballot to render it "inauthentic" because he knew he was going to lose handily; his name was on the ballot originally by default. 2) Under the by-laws of the DNC, violating states have the right to attempt to "repair" their violation via re-vote, etc. FL, MI and Clinton were supportive of this measure, but Obama was not, thereby not allowing FL and MI to repair the violation. As such, Obama should have no say in how FL and MI are resolved because he effectively blocked their attempt to repair the violation, i.e., he has forfeited his right to weigh in on how they should count.

Suppressing the will of the people and blocking votes- yes, that's a "change" that Zimbabwe can believe in!

People reacting with their emotions. RULES, People, RULES. Obama didn't make the rules, and so far he is the only wone following them. How in creation are you blaming him for the Florida and Michigan debacle? Either you are stupid or you don't read. Yes, great lesson for our American children (and adults with no intergrity). "I agreed to the rules a year ago, everybody understood the consequences of holding the primaries early, but no wthat it doesn't suit me, or I'm losing, let's just toss out the rules. " You are really stupid if you think that this kind of stuff doesn't hurt our democracy. Of coursee, this country has a history of changing the rules on particular groups when it doesn't suit their power-hungry needs. Hate and racism is an ugly sore we just can't seem to rid this country of.

If America would vote like every other Nation this problem would never exist! Why can't they pick an election date, have Americans vote for their favourite Candidate, count the votes and announce the winner – Like every other Nation world wide!

This is total insanity! Every election in America seems to generate a voting problem of some description. Bush's election was Florida and the Chads! The system is what's igniting hatred, division, suspicion, and racism! Isn't it time to to employ a new system? One that is uncomplicated, user friendly, and fair to all candidates and citizens alike!

Oh NO!

Thanks Hillary! Now you have what you have wished for. Hillary you will never be President of this country! You make the WORD DIVISIVE look HOLY. Mark my words never will you win the Presidency, and history will debate your legacy for your supporters to get to know the real you that is DIVISIVE and that is the TRUTH! You may run but will never WIN.

And for the last time folks, I am MAD at people here saying Obama supporters are vile, get some brains it has been the REPUBLICANS doing it, of course we have some Obama supporters saying bad words but only rarely when Hillary does something so EVIL that boils their blood. So get a LIFE and go vote for McCain like you have always wished for. You know you want to vote for MAC because you are closet racists that never could stand a BLACK man being POTUS. Well get used to it because WE ARE A NEW GENERATION OF AMERICANS and we declare OUR FUTURE WILL NOT BE WRITTEN FOR US BUT BY US! Good grief get a life you OLD PEOPLE. And yes I'm WHITE.

And we dare you to meet us in D.C! Just try us, test us and see if this new generation is serious or not. Get ready to have your butt spanked for real you crazy feminist bigoted hate filled vile Hillary supporters.

I don't blame them one bit. This whole fiasco is because Hillary wants to have her way and change the rules that she agreed to follow. Obama supporters are only protesting to make a statement; which is" Play by the Rules!"

Let's make this perfectly clear. Obama and his campaign have been blocking any solution or compromise to the counting of the Florida and Michigan votes. He is the one disenfranchising 1.7 million voters in Florida. How can anyone say he ran an honest campaign if he doesn't agree to a solution to the problem? This just shows you his true self and what he's really like and indicates what kind of leader he would be. He's a politician just looking out for himself, his position of power and doesn't care about the people of those two states.

I hope both sides remember that ultimately we are on the same side. We must put a democrat in the WhiteHouse so we can minimize the number of Sons, Daughters, Fathers and Mothers that will die in Iraq.

All you HC haters, please tell me what have you done for humanity and your society. How much have you given as a servant of mankind to make this a better place to live. If you cannot, it probably because you are spending too much time making cruel and mean blogs about the lady. Majority of you do not understand basic politic, so keep your limited understanding of the process and issues to yourself. You come off sounding rather illiterate.

I am curious to know more about the background of the "count every vote" controversy. When were the rules made and why? Were the campaigns consulted then? What was their position before the primary season?

I see (mostly partisan) references to these issues. Could CNN run a reminder article about this that would be fair to both sides?

COUNT ME IN - AND I'M BRINING MY FRIENDS WITH ME !!!

I strongly support Barack - but deep inside of me I want McCain to win just because I want to sit back and watch you idiots when the economy gets worse (and oh by the way it affects you most), oil prices continue to soar and you can't fill your pick-up trucks, your kids will continue to die in Iraq (mostly because they don't go to college and the military is their only hope), Roe v. Wade gets overturned, etc.

YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS AND DESERVE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU IF MCCAIN GETS ELECTED.

OBAMA O8!!

OBAMA '08!!

Wow, Hillary – your ego knows no bounds, does it?

You didn't mind these rules back in October (when you were the front-runner). Now you want to change them because you're losing?

Please, someone get Hillary to a mental hospital, so someone can begin treating her megalomania.

this is not fair. i am tied of this election. i thought rules are rules. i suppose to vote on FL but i know my vote count so i didn't vote. this is erong. my question to DNC and hillary supporter; how come i played by the rule and my vote is not being counted, instead people that broke the rules, thier vote is going to count.

Great!

Thank you Obama supporters for your counter-pretest!

Also – It would be great for the voters who did not vote and followed the rules to protest!

Go Bam! Each day the Clintons are showing us their true color!

I love it! They can't believe a rookie has beat them! (:

This story gets better every day! Hillary is still in the primary while Obama is on to the general election!

lol,

You must for for the clinton camp? "hillary has more electoral votes than mccain"????? Did I miss something? I could've sworn that the GE is not until November. Polls for a GE conducted in May are not all that accurate. Dukakis was leading in the polls and ended up losing 40 states. Also to note, Bill Clinton didn't menition some other polls that show Obama up in swing states including OH, PA, CO, NV, VA, NM. Also every poll in California actually show Obama beating McCain by a wider margin than Clinton and most of them show her losing to McCain in CO, VA, NM. The bottom line is that we can't rely on polls to decide what's going to happen five months from now. A year ago those same polls showed that the matchup would be Clinton versus Rudy Guliani. I guess those polls were accurate.

Obama supporters are now concerned about delegate numbers. If he gets in, they (the young ones) will someday be concerned about their draft numbers. The military will undergo a huge and unfortunate change under an Obama administration. Re-enlistments will dry up even more than they have under current Democratic negative influence ,and potential new recruits will know that they will have an unworthy Commander in Chief and will therefore not even consider a military career. Yet we will still need a military. The answer? As an option already floated by some Democrats, you can look for a renewed draft. That will be your first taste of freedom under an Obama administration.

Clinton KNEW the votes would not be count if FL/MI opened the ballots early. Everyone knew the votes would not count so Obama chose to not spend the $ to get put on the ballot. Clinton thought she would be sneaky. SORRY HILL DOG last thing America needs is another FLAT OUT CHEATER In the white house!

It sounds like Clinton is working with the same people who ILEAGLY got Bush in the White House twice!

I wonder how much more America will take before we have another Tea Party!?!?!?!

The Superdelegates are so weak! They are allowing Senator
Clinton to do everything in her power to destroy the party and
to try to destroy Obama's chance of winning in the fall. Bill and
Hill this is going to all backfire on you! The American people
are not stupid. You two are!

Have any of you Obama supporters actually listened to the stuff that comes out of your candidates mouth? Anti-americanism wrapped in patriotic gift paper at it's best. Not to mention this man has done nothing in his political career save for showing up to vote present in congress. Do not support this man. Hillary is the only viable candidate to get democrats back in the white house come november. I will not vote democrat with Obama at the top of the ticket.

Let Obama and his camp discount Florida and Michigan. Hand them over to McCain in the General Election so that McCain can beat him. I'd love to see both states be the ones to hand McCain the Presidency at Obama's expense.

I wish that they didn't have to protest and that the DNC could rise up and do the right thing...

What is the right thing? Didn't the DNC ask all the candidates to NOT campaign in Michigan because they (the DNC) was Not going to count their votes / delegates? So all candidates left in the race should share 50 percent of the votes, the other 50 percent is the penalty.(less you want a lawsuit).

Florida, I am not sure what the arangement was but I would expect it was the same, so split 50 percent.

ALL IN FAVOR ... (submit comment by saying) I

"So when you vote for Obama, you'll really be voting for Axelrod. Good Luck!"

So then by this analogy, a vote for McCain is a vote for Liberman since Liberman has to whisper corrections in his ear all the time.

Imagine a commander-in-chief that doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiite!!

Some joker wrote "Hillary 08, 12, Chelsea 24, 28".....what delusional thinking, and just shows you how OUT OF TOUCH Hillary's folks are.

Anyway the Peter Paul v Clintons lawsuit (for FRAUD) is due for trial in CA in November (the Clintons got the judge to delay until after the Nov elections.....funny timing, eh??) but that scandal, and the ones where Bill received funds from foreign governments, are going to DOOM whatever is left of the Clinton "legacy"....and we'll ALL BE GLAD that she's not in the White House (in ANY capacity). Remember Agnew??

There you go, it had to be expected. That's the problem when you have Clinton agreeing on the rules only to change her mind when she realized she needed those votes. But that was not enough for her. She has to compare that to the fight for civil rights and even accuse Obama who has been coherent since the biginning. And yes, enough of her supporters, blind to her lies, really think she is fighting for some kind of justice. Funny.

For me, it's hard to imagine that when the day to vote will come, a real democrat will say: Wait a minute, let's vote for the guy who wants tax cut only for the rich, fight for pro-life agenda, wants to pursue Bush's politics, and so on. Those bloggers saying they'll vote for Mccain over Obama are simply real republicans in disguise. There is no sane democrat who can say such a thing, considering Obama's and Clinton's positions on social and economic issues are similar. And you can't argue he lacks the strenght or the experience, considering he had a terrific campaign and came from nowhere to beat the anointed candidate.

For those Clinton's supporters saying your candidate was treated disrespectfully, I would argue the opposite. I had never seen a candidate saying so many lies and getting away with them because the press let her do it. The last one being about her huband clinching the nomination in June, while in his own autobiography, he himself writes that the deal was done in April. That's the kind of behaviours that draw anger and rage from people, emotions that find their way to these blogs.

It borders on the criminal for the Clinton campaign to take advantage of the people of Florida and Michigan. She did not care about their voting rights last year when she thought she would wrap up the nomination on February 5th, when she thought their votes would not matter. For her to be so concerned now about every person's vote being counted is self-serving.

Bill and Hillary know the popular vote does not win the primary nor does it win the general election. For the primary it is the number of delegates; for the general its the electoral college.

Additionally, this entire meeting scheduled for May 31, 2008, is based on race. If the situation were reversed and Clinton was leading in popular votes, leading in total number of elected delegates, leading in total number of superdelegates, and leading in number of states won, Obama would have been chased out of the race. In fact, after winning eleven states in a row, Obama would have been chased out of the race a loooong time ago.

Rules are the rules and it is ludicrous to hold a meeting to make a final determination on an issue that has been settled for more than a year. The time to have had these discussions....the ramifications of disenfranchising the people of Florida and Michigan as punishment for what their political leaders did....was last year. Now now.

But it is par for the course. The African American is winning by the rules, so we need to change the rules.

Racism is so transparent sometimes. Sigh.

Tis is crap to me. FL and MI will be seated, but sorry hillbots, it will not change the outcome as many of you hope. They will be seated, but they will not change the results. Only one or two more weeks of the queen. Then we can get down to beating Mcbush in Nov.

In a free society, democracy dictates that everyone's vote be counted. If the shoe were on the other foot, Obama supporters would also insist that all voices be heard.

The Democratic Party cannot afford to turn its back on Florida and Michigan. Whoever ends up as the nominee will certainly need the support of these states.

Let's rise above the political infighting and let all the people be counted.

Ron Paul's supporters, and Obama's supporters are cut from the cloth. They are some of the most foul mouth people i have ever seen.

apparently Hillary Clinton and her supporters must think this thing only works one way. This women is cutting off her political foot, she has alienated people who had supported the Clinton's for years, the AA voters. Are they too stupid to realize that if she were to end up the nominee that the AA voters would no longer support her because of how she and her Husband have run her campaign and she can't win without their vote either, so this thing swings both way. Had they not turned out to be the nasty hateful race bating whinning, blaming everyone but her terrible camp for her running a bad campaign, she may have gotten the AA vote because they had the advantange with AA voters in the beginning, we will not forget how she has run this race and made it about race, so if she returned to the Senate, I live in NY state, she will not be getting the AA vote if she runs again when her time is up in the Senate. I also was born and raised up until my adult life in Florida and she wouldn't get my vote again, regardless of which state I am in.

Why wont Hillary let the delagates of FL and MI be seated evenly (50/50)? What is the problem? They voted out-of-turn and now it's a big deal with Hillary and her supporters? Give me a break and good for Obama supporters, "fight fire with fire". Hillary is not as authentic person as I once thought she was. (Not by a long shot)

What will be the next rule the Clinton campaign tries to change to try to steal the nomination. The voters have decided Hillary-you lose and Obama wins.

Deal iwth it.

Clinton reminds me of the kid who is playing a game with agreed upon rules, begins losing the game and so wants to change the rules in her favor. I am sure is Obama were in her position now, Clinton would be strident in her enforcement of all the rules agreed upon..And she'd make Obama look like a sore loser.
Sen. Clinton...You are fooling no one !

Not to say it hasn't happened because I don't have time to read hundreds of comments in every single thread, but I have yet to see a Hillary supporter here who doesn't deliberately ignore the fact that Hillary and her Harold Ickes agreed to, and were in on, Florida and Michigan's "punishment," and only started to care about the FL and MI voters being "disenfranchised" (how lightly we throw that heretofore serious word around) when she started losing to Obama. You call Obama supporters "Obamabots" and say they are crazy and on kool-aid, but I'd just once like to see one of your group rationally acknowledge that this is how it happened and therefore, that Hillary is being self-serving by making an issue out of this now.

I'd like to hear these Hillary supporters, who try to make us think their hearts are so big and soft and golden because they want to "count ALL the votes," explain how counting the results of the screwed-up FL and MI primaries is fair to people in those states who were eligible to vote but did not, or who voted in the other party's primary, because they were told in advance that their Democratic Party primary vote wouldn't count for squat. I'd like to hear these Hillary supporters explain exactly why the FL and MI primaries should count as they stand, as distorted as they were, but fair and square caucus states shouldn't count for anything. I'm talking about *good* reasons for these two things, not blind and hateful lashing out at "Obama and his thugs," whatever that means. I think I'll be waiting for a long, long time.

How about the DNC gives Clinton all her delegates and then in Michigan she may as well have all the uncommitted as there was no ones else on the ballot.

In Florida, how about she gets all her delegates and then all the non- obama votes as well based on the same logic as above.

And maybe she should just get 100 extra delegates for all the trouble this has caused her. Maybe that would be "fair"

I love watching American politics where the rules only apply until they don't work for the candidate.

Copy, copy! Is there anything about him that he has not copied from Hillary??

What else is new, the Clinton's are at it again. Neither of them can count and their EGOS wont let them do what is the right thing...Now they want to change the rules THE RULES BY THE WAY THAT ALL CANDIDATES AGREED TO BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN STARTED; Now that she is having her butt handed to her on a plate she wants to change the game.. Problem is to OBAMA this Campaign is NOT A GAME it is SERIOUS BUSINESS and the sooner the Clinton's understand this the sooner this nation can move on.

Isn't she just a grand leader? She wouldn't be saying this unless it benefited her. I feel sorry for her "victims" who have been so easily misled.

Hillary ego-driven?
More votes have been cast for her than anyone in any election, anywhere!

Its the Obamabots who will push the Clinton supporters away from voting in the fall.

Its only a matter of time before we have a President McCain.

Why are the BO supporters so ridiculously arrogant?

Why do they continue to want to disenfranchise the Florida and Michigan voters.

If they would educate themselves on the rules and what was agreed upon, they would know that there is nothing against counting those votes with a recount.

Do you honestly think that those voters will support BO in the fall when their votes weren't counted in the primary?

WAKE UP!

BARACK OBAMA has purchased this nomination with more donations to SUPER-DELEGATES than any other candidate through his PACs.

while i am an obama supporter, i do not understand why the voters are being punished. They are not the ones who decided to move their primary dates. It isn't fair, and I think both candidates should acknowledge this, rather than dancing around the issue with slogans like 'every vote should count,' or whatever.

Skip to "Why is this happening to you?", "Why were you powerless to stop it?" and "What I will do to ensure you are never this powerless in the future."

Yaaaa...

They agreed to the rules... they broke the rules... now they'e complaining about the consequences....

Hmmm, and we as Americans wonder why our country and culture has no sense of taking responsibility for our own actions.

Am I reading this right... the Obama campaign is organizing a rally against peoples votes... and this is the unity and change he speaks of? Sick... just Sick!

I have a suggestion for T-shirts for the Clinton supporters to wear during the rally- It ain't Eazy being Sleazy!

When Hillary agreed not to campaign there because she knew the votes were not going to count, Where were her protest of every vote counts. She thought this thing would be wrapped up in February and she did not care who she trampled on the way there. Her battle cry sure has changed, AGAIN!!!!

Are some of counting your eggs before you even have chickens?
We are a looooonnnnngggg way before such a statement as:
President Obama. Ego's running wild follow your leader be HUMBLE.

I voted uncommitted for Obama in Michigan...WHY IS HILLARY NOT COUNTING MY VOTE???

It's over and the Clintons know it. This look like my daugther having a tantrum, throwing herself on the floor whenever I'm not doing what she wants. It is shameful that this come from adults, especially one that wanted to be the head of the most powerful country in the world.

Thank God McCain is gonna give us the first female vice president on her way to become the first female president. Sorry Hillary you are not going to make history

Are the Clinton backers really having a bake sale outside of the DNC meeting?

Who the heck is paying to bus in Clinton supporters? She has NO money and has 20 million dollars in unpaid bills already.

The DNC did it to itself. Anytime you place a person higher than her party, there are consequences. But one thing, I can say that the person which they chose at begining appear not be who she claim to be. It is amazing how time reveals things. After all those things said by her, I find me rejoicing that she will not be the nominee. This country would be in a worst state if she was. This party deserves better and more importantly this nation.

All HIllary and Obama supporters. If you like your candidate you need to start supporting one another. Because the bottom line is if Obama does not win the Presidency, Clinton will never see the white house and vice versa. But more so for Obama.

Regardless of what anyone says Obama is winning tbecause he ran a better campaign. If the nomination is given to Hillary you know she does not have enough support to put her in the whitehouse. There was not enough support for her win the nomination. And if Obama loses because HIllary supporters vote for McCain this will be remembered in 2012.

If you really want Hillary to see the White House, you need to take this into consideration.

Something Else, you hit it!

It's time to end the circus. What a farce!

H, did you run out of Kool Aid?

Clinton=Gone Goose

McCain=One Happy Camper

Obama=Maybe I should have been a Republican

Everyone should realize that this is not about Clinton or Obama. This is about what is right. The real question is why did the DNC choose to allow certain states to move their primaries up and not others. No matter, what the reasons were, the DNC rules were idiotic and should never have been installed. It is ignorant to believe that either candidate had a real choice. What would the DNC have done if either candidate disagreed? There were eight Democratic candidates in the beginning. If the DNC continues to be adamant about the rules, the Democrats can concede Florida (and probably Michigan) in November. If they change the rules now, Obama's supporters will continue their hate mongering (as depicted by the comments on this site). There is no way to fix this mess; clearly, Obama doesn't care about the voters or he would have insisted on a revote (which would have been within the DNC rules). Instead, he hired lawyers to ensure there was no revote; he does not deserve any votes of either Florida or Michigan. Still I realize that allotting the votes in any way will ostracize some voters. The voters deserve better treatment; but, some of them did not vote because they knew about the DNC rules. The DNC messed up and there is no way to fix this mess. Just concede Florida and Michigan to the Republicans, fire Howard Dean and all members of the DNC; then hope for a better outcome in 2012.

This should be the most entertaining meeting the rules committee has ever had.

This story should not even exist. No one should be protesting this issue. I guess you make and agree on rules only to go back and disregard them? Hillary Clinton should be ashamed of herself. I am a Democrat that only wants a Democrat president. I did vote for Obama but if she would have been the nominee then I would have voted for her against Mccain. Thank God Obama will be running against McCain because all the stunts and crap she has been pulling goes against what I believe a true leader should do. Going gracefully sure is not an option for her. Her backers that say that they will vote for McCain or not at all if she does not win need to realize they are not true Democrats! Shame on them too! I really wish the Obama camp would not go protest and just let the Hillary people protest and look stupid.

Hillary is a joke. And this woman has been completely ashamed of her candidacy. She had made the road hard for the next woman to seek office.

She didn't care a thing about FL and MI until she needed them, even Ickes (who voted to strip FL and MI) admitted that the other day,

Rules are the rules. Republicans have been telling us about the Clintons for years, now we see exactly what they have been saying.

We are wasting time with this. If it was so important to Hillary, she should have never agreed to invalidate the Michigan and Florida results. She does not care at all about the people from these two fine states, and is only interested in furthering her political career.
This is just another case of Hillary doing and saying whatever it takes to get the nomination. She never dreamed she would be in such a hopeless situation, but she has been in it for some time now and it would be refreshing to see some grace and dignity for a change.

Sadly, we will see little of it from her part.

It seems like the Clintons are trying to bully their way into the Whitehouse.

“Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama. Michigan and Florida, however, in addition to Hillary's strong support nationwide, cannot and must not be dismissed in DNC efforts to unify the party.”

Well I guess Obama supporters can say the same thing,but it looks like the party will unify this way and people will become fearful of a sure defeat in November. I must day to seat the delagates without some penalty is not fair.

Good.... let’s have a "peaceful" protest. Obama and Clinton both have vigorous supporter. Remember, both campaigns want the same thing; but in different ways. Remember, Obama just as much as Hillary wants to see Michigan and Florida’s delegates seated.

As an outsider looking on, this is what I see:

You want to have the delegates seated. You want to count the voters, but you can't count them on the basis of how they voted because a) the primary was illegal; b) all of the delegates were not on the ballot; c) to find a compromise satisfactory to both remaining delegates, the vote ratio will have to be applied from outside the states involved. All this to appease people who knowingly broke the rules, including the only major candidate who appeared on those ballots, who was also a signatory to the rules she broke. I don't envy you.

Glad I'm a Canuck.

If Obama is the nonma. he and she had better be prepared for a long fight from the people with common sense.

why did she agree to these rules in the first place?
why do people not understand that HER advisor was part of the team that made these rules, not obama?
OBAMA 08!!!

Come Saturday Hillary won't have a leg to stand on!!! She will be finished!!

This is a shame for all the Democrats!

funny to see that the HILLARY-posts are becoming fewer and fewer

Democrats should finally accept that a majority voted for Obama – and they should unite behind him.

Otherwise the same happens as twice with bush: People vote republican out of a bad mood just to realize shortly after the election that they got another 4 years of bad politics.

Does Sen Obama want to win with just 48 states, i am shocked that i once supported him.

Senator Clinton, you no longer have my support for VP.

We are not Republicans – we do not eat our own.

If it means losing the general election, then so be it: You are simply not fit to be VP.

I guess we'll see if that 75,000 people was a one time thing.

Good! Enough already. Yes, they should be seated, but not in a way that would change the outcome of the primaries. They broke the rules. That's all I have to say about that!!!

OLDER WOMEN FOR OBAMA, 08

Somebody tell Clinton that she is not a dog and Obama is not a lamp-post! capisce?

why isn't the media bringing to light the fact that Hillary Clinton did not care about FL / MI until she was losing? Talk about fair press. Everytime they bring this issue up, they should be forced to mention that Obama wasn't on the Ballot in Michigan, that he was a virtual unknown when Florida votes were cast, and that she also agreed to disinfranchise the voters there until she saw that as her only chance. Even if they were counted, she would still LOSE. So I hope they just seat them and we can move on. This is so silly!!!

First I thought that Hillary really cared about the democratic party and the issues of the American people. Now it's evident she and Bill only want what THEY want. Since she's so much in debt, do you think she's being paid by the Republican party to sabotage this election?

The people have spoken, we are ready for a change. Not politics as usual. Bill you had your chance and you "MESSED" up. Not, just LET GO!!!

I think some people may be taking this Obama guy as a joke. Millions and millions of Americans want this man as our President.

He worked hard and played fair. That is what our country is desperate for in our politics. Hillary needs to face the music.

Get on the Obama train, or stay home and stay out of the way.

WE WANT CHANGE!!!

these Obama supporters are becoming a nuisance. cannot let things to be fair to all? All this forcing, pushing, screaming, complaining, attacking, whining..............what kind of species are they?

Obama about to declare victory? What a joke. Does't the woos appeaser know Hillary is going to run as an Independent and clean his clock? Dumb and dumber.

PS–undefined change is no change at all.

I do not know how Obama and his supporters can talk about a different kind of politics, of change and bring the country together and than deny the voters of florida their vote. Obama and Clinton were both on the ballot in Florida, neither of them campaigned to any major extent there and the results are the results. Every poll shows Obama doing poorly in Flordia, so Clintons win their was not a fluke.

The other thing to consider is, if Flordia and Michigan are not counted people can make the argument that Obama stole this primary. That his message of change will be tainted by a dirty poltical manuver to win Flordia.

If Flordia is not seated, than I say no votes for Obama and hello President McCain.

Clinton 2012

Obamanation people, you are so crasy..................................... Who wants that in the white house?

So I'm curious... is the Clinton campaign paying for the bussing of these protesters? & if so, with whose money? She's BROKE! Just like the rest of the country.

it's so disgusting that Obama and his supporters don't want every vote to count. It reminds me of George Bush. Of course what do you expect from a man who missed 40% of his votes, votes for the Cheney Energy bill, plays the race card constantly, has a wife who calls America a mean country that she's not proud of. His supporters spew hatred and insults in every post and call it hope and change. God help us if this horrible man wins. I feel like this is George Bush all over again. The media picked our candidate, and people are to stupid to go look at his pathetic record. I ask people who support Obama how he voted on a specific issue, and they have no clue. It's truly frightening how cult like they all are.

I print out a lot of the hate filled comments here to show people what the campaign of hope and change is really about. I urge everyone to vote for Hillary, write her name in. Show people what this horrible campaign is really about. Obama supporters, who say they want to unite America, cannot post without insulting America and the people who support Clinton. Is this what we want in our President, a hate filled petty man.

Whatever. The only slight anything I would give Clinton and her husband is a slight kick out of the race. Fl and MI shouldn't count, 48 other states followed the rules, why should they be allowed to break them and still be rewarded?

So what will the slogan be...Do NOT COUNT ALL THE VOTES! Play by the RULES COMMITTEE AND DNC RULES, DO NOT UPHOLD OUR FREEDOM TO VOTE? Once again it is a matter of manuvering. I only hope Hillary's campaign continues on offense and the rights of the AMERICAN people. When you see something (ie the caucuses) does not work, and are not representing the people's voices, it is time to reevaluate the system. Looks like Obama supporters are "stealing" the protest idea from Hillary supporters doesn't it?

Good for Hillary and Obama. May the best man, I mean person, win!

as an obama supporter, i would like to extend a virtual olive branch to all of hillary's supporters (including my father). in the end, we are all democrats and in order to prevent our recession turning into a depression, our war in iraq turning into a war in iran, more of our brave soldiers returning in body bags, and gas jumping to $10 per gallon, we NEED TO UNITE and support our nominee (whomever that might be). this country cannot afford to have another republican in the white house. let's change this country for the better.
democrats 08&12!

This reminds me of the photos of the "Protest" to stop the recount in Florida. The people in the photograph all turned out to be appointees by Karl Rove.

I had the understanding that in our society we follow rules and their are consequences for not following the rules. The DNC cannot change the rules at this late date or they will set a precedent for breaking the rules in coming years. Senator Clinton is using this situation to gain the numbers. She was not concerned in October when she signed the pledge, she was not concerned when they had their early primaries. This is a totally disingenuous attempt to gain what she wants, unfortunately it is dividing the party and will not help her win.

I guess they don't believe in abiding by the rules, Mrs Clinton would not be pushing the issue if the shoe was on the other foot. I guess abiding by the rules only works when it it's in her favor. Setting bad examples. what about the next time around can every state break the rules and have their primaries when they want and not be penalized!!!!

1968 all over again. THANKS HILLARY. Your selfishness and ego-driven insistence to stay in the campaign (hoping someone will GET to Obama, just like RFK in 1968) will destroy the Party and give the election to McCain, when it should have been a SLAM DUNK for Dems this year. Your overt racism, your pathetic "victim-hood", and your callous disregard for the truth have destroyed any hopes for a decent Clinton "legacy".....and its your own fault. GOOD RIDDANCE.

Oh for God's sake Hillary supporters, give it up already, might as well come on board, it's much brighter over here anyway.

GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP THE HATE AND BIAS OBAMA, THE MEDIA AND HIS SUPPORTERS. YOU DESERVE NOTHING.

YES YOU CAN!

YES YOU CAN!

YES YOU CAN!

Please Barack Supporters, get out there and show YOUR support for Barack. I just bet that Hillary never counted on a Counter Protest!

I wish that I could be there, but failing that, I want to support all Barack Supporters, just get out there in HUGE, HUGE, HUUUUUUUUUUGE
NUMBERS. But keep it from getting tacky, Barack would not like that..

GO GUYS, GO!

Remember this is how the 1968 DNC shaped up. The leading candidate takes the nomination. The DNC blows off legitimate concerns of a large portion of it's members. There are riots in the street. The DNC plows ahead.

And because of the huge division in the party and putting up an empty suit as a candidate, opponent Richard Nixon won by a landslide. And kept us at war.

The DNC is about to blow it again. Of course cult members rarely read history. It would destroy the illusion.

They should have a protest in front of supreme court, on one is above the law, Clinton scandel should not be allowed to escape US justice

This campaign is not about Obama - it's about Axelrod, who has done it all! Every opinion Obama expresses is orchestrated by Axelrod - that's why you'll rarely see Obama say anything substantive off-the-cuff . The "Obama Phenomenon" is a carefully crafted public relations event - and it started long go.

DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT – IT'S NOT HARD TO COME BY:

Example: For four years Axelrod had camera crews tracking virtually everything Obama has done in public — chatting up World War II vets in southern IL, visiting his father’s ancestral village in Kenya — and often camera crews outnumbered the civilians. He found a grainy, C-Span-style shot of Obama talking about homelessness on the floor of the IL state Senate, which he quickly used to establish Obama’s prior political experience.

Before that, Axelrod was mostly visible in Chicago the last decade as Mayor Daley’s public relations strategist - the guy who goes on TV to defend Daley from charges of corruption.

Axelrod also operates a second business, ASK Public Strategies. This company discreetly plots strategy and advertising campaigns for corporate clients to shift public opinion their way. He and his partners consider virtually everything about ASK to be “top secret.”

So when you vote for Obama, you'll really be voting for Axelrod. Good Luck!

Please Mr. Obama, please don't compromise and give her a slight advantage. Don't give her any advantage. You're in it to win it, not to give it away.

Stay true to your supporters
Stay true to yourself.

Couple of my friends are Clinton supporters, they have to support her , to push her stay in the race, because they put the bet on her, if Clinton lose, they will lost their bet, their money

In 1952,1956,1972,1988,2000,2004 and now 2008 will the Democratic Party never learn….

Obama loses for the Democratic Party again!

And WHO said the Democratic Party was DEMOCRATIC?

YES.COUNT ALL VOTES..
50 states in the union.
IF MY FL VOTE DOES NOT COUNT.
I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN.
NEVER OBAMA ..AND HIS VP REV WRIGHT.

Lock it up and toss the key so that Billary can't get in. No Clinton for VP we need an attack dog like Sen.Biden to chew them up and spit them out. He is a good man and has been around for a while and he knows all of the games that they will try to play.
Billary is toast. Obama can win without her. They can say what they want but a vote for McSame As Bush is a vote for the same as Bush and right thinking people don't want that. You got to be into S&M to vote for McSame.
America is about to get on track and once again take the lead in the world not the Bush/McSame way using force but by doing what is right to get our great name back.
Obama/Biden08

I am suffering from CFS (Clinton Fatigue Syndrome.) While I would have voted for either candidate, recent rhetoric by both Clintons has left me disappointed and tired. Their recent arguments have no legitimate basis and the question becomes what are they really trying to accomplish? What is their true endgame?

BTW for those who say Hillary Clinton has been treated with disrespect, I beg to differ. She and Bill have been treated with great respect. At one time they deserved that respect. Recently, though, I personally have found that their behavior has caused me to lose respect for them. And that, for me, is sad.

Do what you feel you need to do but this race is over.

That's not surprising for Obama's supporters. After reading blogs for months, I conclude that they are the meanest group of people that I have had contact with. As a result, I will not give my vote to a candidate that garners such hate and evilness. I rather stand on principle and not vote.

The rules are the rules. If the dems of those states wanted to make sure the voters were franchised they would have done so before the primary started.

THAT'S RIGHT.... if Sen. Clinton sits by and allows her own supporters to carry on in such a dishonorable manner THEN let the battle begin.

It's so clear that the Sen. Clinton plays the "victim" so well by allowing her goonies to do her dirty work for her. Her supporters continue to become more and more like Republicans in their outright bitterness and simple-minded hatred.

Sen. Clinton talks about "uniting" the party, but her actions speak another message. WIN at ALL COST!!! They say "actions speak louder than words"....and her supporters are truly acting out in full spectrum.

Sen. Clinton and Bill Clinton have the NERVE to talk about being "disrespected". They have been nothing but disrespectful themselves by trying to bully and cheat their way at every turn.

AND you wonder why she's LOSING big time.

Shameful.

We are? That's not the word coming down from our team leaders. We've been instructed to behave as Obama has throughout this campaign, with the utmost character and respect for the proceedings. I think you mean the harpy-brigade in support of Hillary. There are news articles everywhere about their plans to attend and whine as loud as possible. They were even instructed by the campaign to flood the ticket requests for the hearings to try to keep Obama supporters out.

Foolish people doing foolish things. The more the Obama camp tries to disenfranchise these two 'bit states' the faster they guarantee themselves defeat in November.

Great example for our children. Rules don't matter, just violate them. Why abide by any rules or laws? Just let criminals, liars and thieves free.

THAT'S RIGHT.... if Sen. Clinton sits by and allows her own supporters to carry on in such a dishonorable manner THEN let the battle begin.

It's so clear that the Sen. Clinton plays the "victim" so well by allowing her goonies to do her dirty work for her. Her supporters continue to become more and more like Republicans in their outright bitterness and simple-minded hatred.

Sen. Clinton talks about "uniting" the party, but her actions speak another message. WIN at ALL COST!!! They say "actions speak louder than words"....and her supporters are truly acting out in full spectrum.

Sen. Clinton and Bill Clinton have the never to talk about being "disrespected". They have been nothing but disrespectful themselves by trying to bully and cheat their way at every turn.

AND you wonder why she's LOSING big time.

Shameful.

WHAT ARE THEY DOING? Do the Democrats want to create their own little Florida-2000, with all the bitterness that brings?

Howcome if hillary is sdo much for the blue collar worker she doesn't want to count OUR vote in Florida? I am not a wealthy person who owns a house in Orlando, I rent because I cannot afford $200000 for a house. I did not vote because there was no reason for me to go out, the Democratic Primary was not supposed to count (or so I was told) and I could care less if the wealthy have to pay more in property taxes so I sytayed home/. I support Barack as do a lot of my friends, but because we are not rich and do not own a house we are told we should be disenfrancised how unfair and WRONG! If I had known the rules were going to change me and my buddies would have gone out and voted for Barack and HE would have the populkar vote in FL!! COUNT MY VOTE TO NOT JUST THE WEALTHY OF FLORIDA!

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!

I would love to be there. Does anyone know what hotel this will take place in?

its over. the fat lady has sung. Elvis has left the building. etc. etc. etc.
My advice to both sides is to stay home and not waste gas.

Please let's just end this. Will this drag out until January when President McCain is being sworn into office? End this before that happens.

They should have a protest in front of Supreme Court, on one is above the law, Clinton scandal should not be allowed to escape US justice.

When will the Hillary supporters unite behind Obama? This race is really destroying the Democratic Party. Hillary and her supporters are just what we do not need! They will stop at nothing to win. If by some miracle they did win now who would support them? Certainly not me!!

“Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama"

How can they keep a straight face while saying that?

Seriously.

I will be in the area on Saturday, so I guess the time has come for me to stand up for Democracy by lying down in the street for the cause of fairness. The DNC must stop letting Hillary move the goal posts on Obama. He's followed the rules, and the DNC should not entertain any more of the Clinton spin.

The party is already hopelessly divided. Enough is enough. This primary season needs to end.

The will of the people, The will of the people, the will of the people, nope. the will of Hillary. How is it the will of the people when so many were told their votes would not count. And other were not given the chance to vote for their candidate. Because it is not fairness that counts is Hillariness.

Did anyone watch Recount this weekend? LOL. Sounds like another great movie in the making.

Obama 08

obama should get the magic number of delegates needed to win. the magic number will go up once FL and MI are seated. the rules don't say who has more delegates. the superdelegates factor in who can beat john mccain. hillary has more electoral votes than mccain, and obama. she will have more of the popular vote. obama can't even beat hillary, he'll never beat mccain. hillary 08!

Obama's supporters & campaign are afraid that Florida & Michigan may get to vote.

What does this say about them?

We strongely feel Florida & Michigan should be able to vote. It is only fair to the people of these states.

LET FLORIDA & MICHIGAN VOTE!!!!

hillary signed to not campain in fl and mi. she is the dishonest candidate that I ve ever seen.

Should the DNC change the rules in the 4th quarter, HILLARY STILL LOSES.

Say it Hillary lovers: President Barack Obama!

Good. Both sides want a fair and just resolution, and both sides deserve one. While the Clinton and Obama camps differ on what the resolution will be – both camps should feel that they have had their say.

IT'S A GOOD THING...WE DO NOT NEET HILLARY STEALING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!!

SHE AGREED TO NOT COUNT FL & MI, NOW THAT SHE IS LOSING IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY...OBAMA IS LEADING ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM.....

PLEASE DNC, TAKE HRC OUT OF HER MISERY...

OBAMA '08

I'll be there. I want to see Terry McAuliffe lie in person.

Lets be clear on one thing. Obama did not cause this mess with FL and MI. Ms. Clinton and her "It's all about me" syndrome is at it again. She is creating so much friction and making it seem like she deserves their votes now, EVEN THOUGH SHE DISCOUNTED THEM BEFORE. Her conniving tactics disgust me. THINK.

Plain and simple – what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Couple of my friends are Clinton supporters, they have to support her , to push her to stay in the race, because they put the bet on her, if Clinton lose, they will lost their bet, their money.